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Ep 103Kissing With Eyes Wide Open: A Conversation With Kendana Kay

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Returning To Eden: A Field Guide For The Spiritual Journey. The book will be available 2/22/23 In this episode we chat with Kendana Kay Kendana Kay is a relationship coach who facilitates breakthroughs for those exhausted and disappointed from not experiencing the relational joy they crave. She is a veteran worship leader, musician, and licensed minister. Kendana has earned certifications in Elijah House and Theophostics inner healing modalities, as a Health Coach, and as a John Maxwell Team speaker, trainer, and coach. She is the mother of 10 children and has been homeschooling for over 35 years. Her husband of 38 years, Johnny, passed away in 2021. Kendana lives in Olathe, Kansas where she continues to homeschool her two youngest children. You can connect with Kendana on Facebook Instagram You can find all things Kendana Kay related at her website You can purchase Kendana's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 9, 20231h 6m

Ep 102The Second Annual Year In Review: With Jon & Nat Turney

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The New Evangelicals: Pushing the Evangelical Church forward and to re-think how it approaches key cultural issues. In this episode we chat about this past year. No bio this time. You get to hear from Nat and Jon about this past year. They chat about past guests, life, and the challenges that arose in the past year. They also look forward into the coming year and talk about exciting things on the horizon. You can purchase Parenting Deconstructed on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 2, 20231h 6m

Ep 101Out Of The Embers: A Conversation With Brad Jersak

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Ideas Digest: Break Your Bias. In this episode we chat with Brad Jersak Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Dean of Theology & Culture at St. Stephen’s University in New Brunswick and teaches peace studies courses with Institute For Religion, Peace, and Justice and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew. He writes regularly for the Clarion Journal and CRW Magazine. Through his books and seminars, Brad shares the good news that God is Love, perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ, and that God’s love heals wounded hearts and empowers us to heal this broken world. Brad's books include A More Christlike God, A More Christlike Way, A More Christlike Word, and his latest book Out Of The Embers. You can connect with Brad on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Youtube You can find all things Brad Jersak related on his website You can purchase Brad's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 26, 202248 min

Ep 100Unapologetically Alison: A Conversation With Alison Fabricius

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Ideas Digest: Break Your Bias. In this episode we chat with Alison Fabricius Alison assists over-performing post-millennials to gather and own their scattered souls by helping them to understand that another’s story of them is not theirs. As a trusted guide from the trenches, she helps them to face institutions, authority figures and power dynamics in order to realize that what they have to offer is just what the world needs. She does this through her books, speaking and corporate consulting. When she’s not teaching, she can be found crocheting, reading, or randomly dying her hair (a subtle sign of a war well-fought). Alison's book Unapologetically Alison: Because Their Version Of Her Had To Go was released Nov. 2022 You can connect with Alison on: Facebook Instagram Youtube You can find all things Alison Fabricius related on her website You can purchase Alison's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 19, 20221h 7m

Ep 99The Knot: A Conversation With Dana Robert Hicks

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Ideas Digest: Break Your Bias. In this episode we chat with Dana Robert Hicks Dr. Dana Robert Hicks is an Amazon best-selling author and has contributed to more than five books and many articles that revolve around the themes of culture, change, church planting, and mission. Before his retirement from professional ministry, he was a church planter, pastor, professor, and leadership developer for over 30 years. His latest book The Knot: How To Secure Healthy, Modern Relationships While Not Being Tied To Marriage's Past was released Nov, 2022 You can connect with Dana on: Facebook Twitter Goodreads You can find Dana's blog on his website You can purchase Dana's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 12, 20221h 4m

Ep 98Making Space For Love: A Conversation With Jon And Nat

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Ideas Digest: Break Your Bias. In this episode we chat with...No one. This episode is just Jon & Nat For this episode Jon & Nat chat about the book Parenting Deconstructed. Jon contributed a chapter to this book along with many other amazing authors such as: Derrick Day, Ben DeLong, Phil Drysdale, Matthew J. Distefano, Elizabeth & Christopher Eaker, Karl & Laura Forehand, Keith Giles, Dr. Mark Karris, Joshua Lawson, Jonathan Puddle, and Desimber Rose Wattleton. You can purchase the book Parenting Deconstructed on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 5, 20221h 14m

Ep 97UNenlightenment: A Conversation With Eric English

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Apostates Anonymous - the show you turn to when you can no longer call yourself an Evangelical. In this episode we chat with Eric English Eric Scot English writes the UNenlightenment column for Patheos Progressive Christian. Eric also hosts a podcast called UNenlightenment where he interviews leading thinkers in the Christian faith about various topics associated with progressive Christianity and evangelicalism. Eric's book UNenlightenment was released by Quoir in Nov. 2022. Eric holds advanced degrees in philosophy and theology. Eric's life-long passion for Christ-like discipleship has allowed him to travel and teach those within the Church for the last 20 years. Eric lives in the Grand Rapids, MI area with his wife Cynthia, and their three children. You can connect with Eric on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Eric English related on his website You can purchase Eric's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 28, 20221h 6m

Ep 96Confessions Of A Recovering Evangelical: A Conversation With Daniel Henderson

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Apostates Anonymous - the show you turn to when you can no longer call yourself an Evangelical. In this episode we chat with Daniel Henderson With a 40 year career in education, Daniel Henderson has the grounding of being a life-long mid-westerner, and having traveled extensively. His teaching career in the field of history and religion has given many of his students inspiration and motivation to pursue their own careers in these fields. Dan has traveled to Europe and Central America and all over the United States. He has a passion for history and historic sites. He is recently published a personal story of his own faith journey called, "Confessions of a Recovering Evangelical." It released October, 2022. You can connect with Daniel on: Facebook You can order Daniel's books on Amazon.com You can find Daniel's other writing on this website You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 21, 20221h 7m

Ep 95Sex, Tech, And Faith: A Conversation With Kate Ott

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Apostates Anonymous - the show you turn to when you can no longer call yourself an Evangelical. In this episode we chat with Kate Ott Kate Ott is Jerre L. and Mary Joy Stead Professor of Christian Social Ethics and director of the Stead Center for Ethics and Values, Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary. She is also the author of Christian Ethics for a Digital Society and Sex + Faith: Talking with Your Child from Birth. Kate's latest book is Sex, Tech, anf Faith: Ethics For a Digital Age. You can connect with Kate on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can order Kate's books on Amazon.com You can find all things Kate Ott related on her website You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 14, 20221h 19m

Ep 94Grace Upon Grace: A Conversation With Wm Paul Young

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Apostates Anonymous - the show you turn to when you can no longer call yourself an Evangelical. In this episode we chat with Wm Paul Young Wm Paul Young, is a Canadian author. He wrote the novels The Shack, Cross Roads, Eve , and the non-fiction book Lies We Believe About God. Paul also co-authored the recent release The Pastor: A Crisis With Brad Jersak. You can connect With Paul Young on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can order all of Paul's books on Amazon.com You can find all things Wm Paul Young related on his website. You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 7, 20221h 16m

Ep 93Holding On Loosely: A Conversation With Pablo Giacopelli

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Apostates Anonymous - the show you turn to when you can no longer call yourself an Evangelical. In this episode we chat with Pablo Giacopelli Pablo Giacopelli has been involved on high performance environments since an early age first as a player and later as a coach. He has had the opportunity to successfully coach some of the best female players in the world of tennis. He was selected to be the tennis team Captain for Estonia on the 2008 Beijing Olympics. His pupils successes have ranged from quarter final showings at Grand Slams to winning major WTA events to top 10 yearly race rankings. He is a certified personal and professional performance coach by the Coach U Institute. He is also a certified Professional Performance Tennis Coach and has been trained in Sports Psychology. Pablo has traveled around the world and speaks four languages. He has been a guest speaker at various conferences and seminars around the world. Lately, Pablo has been coaching people, under the banner of UXL, from all walks of life to discover their personal and professional potentials. Pablo is married to Madeleine and has been based in Tel Aviv, Israel for the last 3 years. He is the father of five children Vanessa, Jake, Mia, Gisella, and Anabella. You can follow Pablo on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out the website for The Zone Project You can purchase Pablo's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 31, 20221h 6m

Ep 92Theology Of Consent: A Conversation With Jonathan Foster

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Jonathan Foster Jonathan is an Amazon best-selling author of four books. You can find out about all his creative projects by searching jonathan_foster on any podcasting platform or on Patreon. The faith community evolving at missiofaith.life is where he spends a lot of his time and he’s incredibly proud of what’s happening at LQVE.org. When he's not with his family he's studying Open and Relational Theology. You can connect with Jonathan on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can listen to Jonathan Foster's Podcast at this link You can find all things Jonathan Foster related at his website You can purchase Jonathan's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 24, 20221h 6m

Ep 91More Messy Spirituality: A Conversation With Lola Robbins

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Lola Robbins Lola Robbins is one of the new Co-Hosts of The Messy Spirituality Podcast along with Jason Elam, and Kyle Butler. You can connect with Lola on: Facebook Instagram TikTok You can listen to The Messy Spirituality Podcast here You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 17, 202252 min

Ep 90Bringing Up Kids When Church Lets You Down: A Conversation With Bekah McNeel

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Bekah McNeel Bekah Stolhandske McNeel is a native of San Antonio, Texas, where she has been a reporter for nine years. Her work has appeared in print with Christianity Today, The San Antonio Current, and the Public Justice Review, as well as online with the Christian Science Monitor, Sojourners, the Texas Tribune, the Hechinger Report, The 74 Million, and numerous local outlets. Known for her ability to communicate the high stakes of education and immigration policy and bring clarity to complex systems, Bekah keeps the human beings most affected at the front of her coverage. Bekah is a graduate of the London School of Economics, where she earned a MSc in Media Studies. She is married to Lewis McNeel, an architect with Lake | Flato. They have two young children who, while they do not yet have careers, are very busy. You can connect with Bekah Mcneel on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Bekah McNeel related at her website You can purchase Bekah McNeel's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 10, 20221h 10m

Ep 89The First Advent In Palestine: A Conversation With Kelley Nikondeha

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The Messy Spirituality Podcast who is all about finding God in unexpected places. In this episode we chat with Kelley Nikondeha Kelley Nikondeha is a writer, liberation theologian, and community development practitioner. She combines biblical texts and various cultural contexts to discover insights for embodied justice, community engagement, and living faith. She is the author of Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach Us about Freedom and Adopted: The Sacrament of Belonging in a Fractured World, and is known for highlighting Palestinian voices and rights. She travels between the southwest US and Burundi in East Africa. You can connect with Kelley on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Kelley Nikondeha related at her website You can purchase Kelley's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 3, 20221h 8m

Ep 88Out Into The Desert: A Conversation With Karl Forehand

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Karl Forehand Karl J. Forehand was a bi-vocational pastor for 20 years and has training in spiritual leadership coaching, plant-based nutrition, and spiritual direction. He lives in Missouri with his wife Laura and dog Winston. He has three grown children and two grandchildren. Karl is the cohost of the podcast The Desert Sanctuary with his wife Laura. Karl is the author of Apparent Faith, The Tea Shop, Being, The Hotel, and his latest book Out Into The Desert. You can connect with Karl on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out his podcast: The Desert Sanctuary You can find all this Karl Forehand at his website You can purchase all of Karl's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 26, 202258 min

Ep 87Signs Of Change: A Conversation With Anthony Bartlett

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This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Anthony Bartlett. Anthony Bartlett read philosophy and theology at Heythrop Athaneum in Oxfordshire, England, and at London University. Following his ordination to the Roman Catholic priesthood he spent a year studying in Rome.After ten years of ministry, he resigned the official priesthood. In this period of transition he lived in a community of prayer near Assisi in Italy, under the guidance of writer and teacher, Carlo Carretto. The experience around Carretto welcomed many different individuals at the crossroads of traditional Catholicism and the search for fresh perspective and spiritual practice. It was natural that news of a major recent book by René Girard and his extraordinary cross-disciplinary understanding of Christianity should arrive among members of this group. The seed of information planted then eventually matured into contact between Tony and James Williams, professor of the Hebrew Bible in the Syracuse University Department of Religion and prominent Girardian scholar. With Williams' support and encouragement Tony was accepted for doctoral studies in the Department,emigrating to the U.S. with his family, and gaining his degree in 1999. As well as being a founding member of Wood Hath Hope he is the author of numerous articles and books, including Virtually Christian, How Christ Changes Human Meaning and Makes Creation New, and Signs of Change(March, 2022) You can connect with Anthony on: Facebook Instagram Check out Anthon's blog post on his website Hope In Time You can purchase Anthony's books on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 19, 20221h 3m

Ep 86How To Not Be A Dick: A Conversation with Matthew Distefano

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In this episode we chat with Matthew Distefano. Matthew is a best-selling author, blogger, podcaster, long-time social worker, and hip-hop artist. He is an outspoken advocate for nonviolence, happily married, with one daughter. Outside of writing, his interests include gardening, hiking, and European football. He lives in Northern California. Matthew has released two books in the last year. Don't Be a Dick released March os 2022 and Learning To Float (Written with Michelle Collins) released July 2022. You can connect with Matthew on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Matthew Distefano related on his website You can purchase all of matthew's books on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 12, 202257 min

Ep 85The Resurrection Of Jesse Barrow: A Conversation With Brandon Dragan

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In this episode we chat with Brandon Dragan. Brandon Dragan earned his J.D. from Belmont University College of Law in Nashville, TN and won the American Bar Association Journal’s 2021 Ross Writing Contest. He draws on a wide range of influences—from literature, to history, to philosophy—to craft meaningful and often surprising narratives that challenge the status-quo and reach for a deeper understanding of what it means to be human. Brandon and his wife Jami live in the Nashville area with their two daughters, Natalie & Brooklyn. He enjoys a good cigar, Irish whisky, road cycling and is an avid supporter of Arsenal Football Club. Brandon's latest book The Resurrection of Jesse Barrow was released by Quoir in March of 2022 You can connect with Brandon on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Brandon Dragan related on his website You can purchase Brandon's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 5, 20221h 4m

Ep 84In The Margins: A Conversation With Father Shannon Kearns

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In this episode we chat with Father Shannon Kearns. Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com, which has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. You can connect with Father Shannon on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok Find all things Father Shannon Kearns related at his website Check out the website for Queertheology.com You can buy Shannon's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 29, 20221h 9m

Ep 83The Making Of A Mystic: A Conversation With Kevin Sweeney

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In this episode we chat with Kevin Sweeney. Kevin Sweeney is co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church—an urban church in Honolulu that is welcoming of all people, sees imagination as the key to the future, chooses authenticity over performance, substance over hype, and quality over quantity. He is the host of podcast “The Church Needs Therapy” and is the author of the forthcoming books, “The Making of a Mystic: My Journey with Mushrooms, My Life as a Pastor, and Why It’s Okay For Everyone to Relax,” out on May 31st, and “The Joy of Letting Go” which will be out in January 2023. Both on Quoir Publishing. He lives In Honolulu with his wife and co-founder of Imagine, Christine, and their two kids, True and Mikayla. You can connect with Kevin on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can purchase Kevin's book The Making of a Mystic on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 22, 20221h 23m

Ep 82Silencing White Noise: A Conversation With Willie Dwayne Francois III

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In this episode we chat with Willie Dwayne Francois III. Willie Dwayne Francois III (DMin, Candler School of Theology) is senior pastor of Mount Zion Baptist Church in Pleasantville, New Jersey, and president of the Black Church Center for Justice and Equality. He serves as assistant professor of liberation theology at New York Theological Seminary and directs a master’s degree program at Sing Sing Correctional Facility. He created the Public Love Organizing and Training (PLOT) Project and has served in various organizations engaging racial justice issues, including the Atlantic City chapter of Black Lives Matter, the Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference, and the NJ Department of State’s MLK Jr. Commission. Francois is an active speaker and has written for HuffPost, Sojourners, The Hill, the Christian Century, and Religion Dispatches. Willie's book Silencing White Noise: Six Practices to Overcome Our Inaction on Race will be released on 8/16/22. You can connect with Willie on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Willie Dwayne Francois III is Senior Pastor of Mount Zion Baptist church You can purchase Silencing White noise at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 15, 20221h 13m

Ep 81Sola Mysterium: A Conversation With Keith Giles

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In this episode we chat with Keith Giles. In this bonus episode we catch up with Keith Giles and all his goings on. Keith is the author of several books, including: "Jesus Unbound: Liberating the Word of God from the Bible" and "Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb." Keith Latest book Sola Mysterium was released by Quoir on 6/28/22. Keith is the co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. Keith also teaches several online courses including "Square 1: From Deconstruction to Reconstruction" and other courses based on his many books. You can connect With Keith Giles on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Patheos Check out the classes Keith offers on his website. All of Keith's books are available on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 8, 20221h 9m

Ep 80My Seven Black Father: A Conversation With Will Jawando

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In this episode we chat with Will Jawando. Will Jawando is an attorney, an activist, a community leader and a councilmember in Montgomery County, Maryland, a diverse community of more than one million residents. Called “the progressive leader we need” by the late congressman John Lewis, Jawando has worked with Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senator Sherrod Brown and President Barack Obama. His writing has appeared in The Washington Post and The Root and on BET.com, and his work has been featured in The New York Times and New York magazine and on NPR, NBC News and MTV. He regularly appears on CNN, MSNBC and other media outlets. Will's book My Seven Black Fathers: A Young Activists Memoir of Race, Family, and the Mentors Who Made Him Whole was released on May 3, 2022. You can connect with Will on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Will Jawando related on his website You can purchase Will's book from Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 1, 20221h 7m

Ep 79Purity Culture - The Shaming Of A Generation: A Conversation With Linda Kay Klein

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In this episode we chat with Linda Kay Klein. Linda Kay Klein (she/her) is author of the award-winning book, Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. She is also a religious deconstruction & purity culture recovery coach, and the founder and president Break Free Together, a not-for-profit organization serving individuals recovering from gender- and sexuality-based religious trauma. Linda has spoken around the world from the TEDx stage to The Apollo’s Women of the World Festival. Her work has been featured by the New York Times, NPR, CBS, NBC, Elle Magazine, and over 150 other outlets. Linda is a trained Our Whole Lives (OWL) sexuality education facilitator, and holds an interdisciplinary Masters degree in gender, sexuality and religion from New York University. Linda has worked in the social change sector for over two decades. Her background includes founding a program on how to find and follow your purpose used in over 200 universities for the social entrepreneurship incubator, Echoing Green, and working with million dollar donors supporting women and girls through Women Moving Millions. Linda is married to a writer and social change agent who inspires her every day, and has a daughter in diapers and another in college. You can connect with Linda on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Linda Kay Klein related at her website You can purchase Linda's book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 25, 20221h 5m

Ep 78Evangelical Anxiety: A Conversation With Charles Marsh

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In this episode we chat with Charles Marsh. Charles Marsh is a professor of religious studies at the University of Virginia. His books include God’s Long Summer: Stories of Faith and Civil Rights (Princeton), which won the 1998 Grawemeyer Award in Religion, and Strange Glory: A Life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer (Knopf), which was shortlisted for the 2015 PEN/Jacqueline Bograd Weld Award for Biography and won the Christianity Today Book Award in Biography/History. Charles' latest book Evangelical Anxiety was released june 2022. He lives in Charlottesville, Virginia. You can connect with Charles on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out the Lived Theology website You can purchase Charles Marsh's book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 18, 20221h 24m

Ep 77Stay Put, Save The Planet, Be Happy: A Conversation With Frank Schaeffer

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In this episode we chat with Frank Schaeffer. Frank Schaeffer is a New York Times bestselling author of more than a dozen books. Frank is a survivor of both polio and an evangelical/fundamentalist childhood, an acclaimed writer who overcame severe dyslexia, a home-schooled and self-taught documentary movie director, a feature film director of four low budget Hollywood features Frank has described as “pretty terrible.” He is also an acclaimed author of fiction and nonfiction and an artist with a loyal following of international collectors who own many of his paintings. You can connect with Frank on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Frank Schaeffer related at his website You can purchase all of Frank's books at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 11, 20221h 12m

Ep 76A Participatory Theology: A Conversation With GabrielGordon

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In this episode we chat with Gabriel Gordon. Gabriel Gordon graduated with a double major in Anthropology and Cross-Cultural Ministry from Oklahoma Baptist University. He is currently working on his Master of Theological Studies at Portland Seminary. He is the director of student ministries with Christ Church Episcopal and a co-founder of The Misfits Theology Club: a blog dedicated to working towards unity amongst diverse Christians. Hist latest book God Speaks: A Participatory Theology of Biblical Inspiration was published by Quoir Books in June of last year. You can connect with Gabriel on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out the Misfits Theology website You can purchase God Speaks at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 4, 20221h 13m

Ep 75Deep Diving Into Deconstruction: A Conversation With Phil Drysdale

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In this episode we chat with Phile Drysdale. Here is Phil's bio in his own words. I’m not a world renowned theologian, I’ve not been through years of seminary, I’ve not even been a pastor of a church. However I have something going for me that many do not… I’m never scared to ask questions of what I believe. If what I’m standing on is a solid foundation then it will stand. If not – then I’m glad to be shot of it! My heart is to get you to think for yourself, challenge everything you’ve ever been taught, driving you to a conversation with God, a study of the Scriptures to find out if any of your beliefs need to change. Yo can connect with Phil on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Phil Drysdale related on his website Check out the Deconstruction Network at this website You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 27, 20221h 43m

Ep 74How We Love Matters: A Conversation With Albert Tate

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In this episode we chat with Albert Tate. Albert Tate is the founding and lead pastor of Fellowship Church in Los Angeles County California. He began his ministry pastoring just a few families at Sweet Home Church in Mississippi before serving the historic Lake Avenue Church in Pasadena, California. Hearing the call from God to plant a church, Albert and his wife, LaRosa, launched Fellowship Church in January 2012. In its short history, this gospel-centered, multiethnic, intergenerational church has already established a solid foothold in the region to the glory, honor, and transformational power of Christ. As a dynamic communicator, Albert is passionate about sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ both locally and globally. He serves on the Board of Trustees at Azusa Pacific University, the Global Leadership Network, and Global Church Planting Organization, Stadia. Albert is the Founder and CEO of The Greatest Story, Inc, and President of Harambee Ministries. He recently published his first book entitled, "How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation". Albert is the proud father of four children: Zoe, Bethany, Isaac, and Micah. You can connect with Albert Tate on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Albert Tate related at his Website You can purchase Albert's book How We Love Matter at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 20, 20221h 9m

Ep 73Stepping Away and Reclaiming a Faith: A Conversation with Barton Breen

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In this episode we chat with Barton Breen. Barton Breen is 59 years old. Originally from Canada he is a dual citizen in the US and has lived in the US for 40 years. He was a minister a district worker and church administrator for 20 years in an evangelical conservative denomination. he left church in 2005 has worked secularly since then. He left church entirely in 2008 while working through a period of deconstruction/reconstruction. He returned to church in 2018 in an Anglican church that focuses on social justice and is embracing and affirming of the LGBTQIA+ community. He is an ally for the gay community and also an ally for the indigenous community. His wife is Cherokee and is a social worker to indigenous families. He lives in Ottawa Canada. Barton has no books to sell, no programs to promote. What you hear is what you get. You can follow Barton on: Facebook Instagram LinkedIn You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 13, 202258 min

Ep 72God Is A Black Woman: A Conversation With Christena Cleveland

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In this episode we chat with Christena Cleveland. Christena Cleveland Ph.D. is a social psychologist, public theologian, author, and activist. She is the founder and director of the Center for Justice + Renewal as well as its sister organization, Sacred Folk, which creates resources to stimulate people’s spiritual imaginations and support their journeys toward liberation. A weaver of Black liberation and the sacred feminine, Dr. Cleveland integrates psychology, theology, storytelling, and art to stimulate our spiritual imaginations. She recently completed her third full-length book, God is a Black Woman (HarperOne), which details her 400-mile walking pilgrimage across central France in search of ancient Black Madonna statues, and examines the relationship among race, gender, and cultural perceptions of the Divine. You can follow Christena on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Christena Cleveland related at her website You can purchase Christena's books at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 6, 20221h 1m

Ep 71Do I Stay Christian: A Conversation With Brian McLaren

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In this episode we chat with Brian McLaren. Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a faculty member of The Living School and podcaster with Learning How to See, which are part of the Center for Action and Contemplation. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and is a co-host of Southern Lights. His newest book is Do I Stay Christian which was released May 24, 2022 by Macmillan. You can connect with Brian on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Brian McLaren related at his website You can purchase Brian's book at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 30, 202252 min

Ep 70Chasing Lakes: A Conversation with Katey Walter Anthony

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In this episode we chat with Katey Walter Anthony. Katey Walter Anthony PhD is a professor of aquatic ecology, biogeochemistry, and permafrost science at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. Her research focuses on methane emissions from Arctic lakes, the degradation of permafrost, and their associated feedbacks to global climate through the carbon cycle. She and her work have been featured in National Geographic, Washington Post, 60 Minutes, Vice, The Guardian, the New York Times newsletter, Newsweek, Nature Magazine, and Leonardo DiCaprio’s documentary Ice on Fire. Katey's book Chasing Lakes: Love, Science and the Secrets of the Arctic was released on May 17, 2022 by HarperOne books. Here is a link to an article about Katey in National Geographic You can purchase Katey's book Chasing Lakes on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 23, 202258 min

Ep 69Seeing Past Our Limiting Belief: A Conversation with Meg Calvin

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In this episode we chat with Meg Calvin. Meggie Lee Calvin (Meg) is an Amazon Bestselling Author of the book, I Am My Own Sanctuary: How A Recovering Holy-Roller Found Healing And Power. Meg is a wife, mom, speaker, podcaster, and coach who helps her fellow Spiritually-Attuned Go-Getters find confidence and certainty in who they were meant to be. You can connect with Meg on: Facebook Instagram Twitter Follow this link to her website Meg's books are available on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 16, 20221h 0m

Ep 68Becoming Home: A Conversation with Ben DeLong

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In this episode we chat with Ben DeLong. Here is his bio in his own words: I was born in Iowa, grew up as a pastor’s kid, and eventually became a pastor myself. What I later learned was that becoming a pastor was my way of coping with wounds and trauma that had built up within me since childhood. I have since given up being a pastor and turned my focus to becoming an author. My lovely wife has been a steady presence in my life. We were married in 2005 and adopted our son in 2019. They have been the greatest teachers in my life as I’ve journeyed toward a greater sense of wholeness. I love writing, and I love exploring the inner journey. I combine these two passions in my books to help give people hope to make the next step in their own story. I invite you to explore my work and see what you are inspired to move toward in life. You can follow Ben on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find things all Ben DeLong related at his website You can purchase Ben's book at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 9, 202255 min

Ep 67Render Unto Caesar: A Conversation with John Dominic Crossan

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In this episode we chat with John Dominic Crossan. John Dominic Crossan is Professor Emeritus of Religious Studies, DePaul University, Chicago. He has written twenty books on the historical Jesus in the last thirty years, four of which have become national religious bestsellers: The Historical Jesus (1991), Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography (1994), Who Killed Jesus (1995), and The Birth of Christianity (1998). His latest book Render Unto Caesar was released in March of this year. He is a former co-chair of the Jesus Seminar, and a former chair of the Historical Jesus Section of the Society of Biblical Literature, an international scholarly association for biblical study based in the United States. You can follow John Dominic Crossan on Facebook You can purchase all of John Dominic Crossan's books at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 2, 20221h 26m

Ep 66After Jesus Before Christianity: A Conversation with Erin Vearncombe, Brandon Scott, & Hal Taussig

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In this episode we chat with the authors of the book - After Jesus Before Christianity. Dr. Erin K. Vearncombe is an Assistant Professor at the University of Toronto, appointed to the Office of the Dean. She received her Ph.D. in a collaborative program at the University of Toronto between the Department for the Study of Religion and the Anne Tanenbaum Centre for Jewish Studies. A specialist in writing instruction, Erin worked for five years as a faculty member of the Princeton Writing Program at Princeton University, and is currently designing a program for the Faculty of Arts and Science at the University of Toronto that will ease the transition to university-level writing for incoming undergraduate students. Her research specialty is the social origins and histories of Jesus movements in the first centuries of the common era, with a particular focus on practices of dress. Bernard Brandon Scott is the author and editor of many books, including The Real Paul: Recovering His Radical Challenge and The Trouble with Resurrection. A charter member of the Jesus Seminar, he is chair of Westar’s Christianity Seminar. He served as chair of the Bible in Ancient and Modern Media Section of the Society of Biblical Literature, as well as a member of several SBL Seminars including the Parable Seminar and Historical Jesus Seminar. He holds an A.B. from St. Meinrad Seminary and School of Theology, an M.A. from Miami University, and a Ph.D. from Vanderbilt University. Hal Taussig recently retired as Professor of New Testament at Union Theological Seminary in New York. He lectures around the country and world. The editor of the award-winning A New New Testament (2013), United Methodist minister, and author of fourteen books, his mediography includes The New York Times, Time Magazine, The Daily Show, People Magazine, Newsweek Magazine, National Public Radio, the Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC, the Bob Edwards Show on Sirius Radio, The History Channel, and the Washington Post. Check out the Westar Institute, home of the Jesus Seminar at this website You can purchase the book After Jesus Before Christianity at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Apr 25, 20221h 5m

Ep 65TikTok-ing the time away. A Conversation with Paul Swearengin

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In this episode we chat with Paul Swearengin. Paul Swearengin is a licensed minister, author, podcast host and emotional and spiritual well-being coach dedicated to affirming those searching for personal transformation and renewal in today’s often confusing culture. Known as the TikTok Pastor, and a survivor of the emotional abuse of an evangelical upbringing, Paul brings in this season an important, if not, unconventional voice to the world of religion, politics and spirituality. You can follow Paul on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Paul Swearengin related on his website You can purchase Pauls books on Amazon.com Check out Pauls Podcast: The Post Evangelical Podcast You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Apr 18, 20221h 2m

Ep 64Sledding Toward the Bumps: A Conversation with Amy Courts

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In this episode we chat with Amy Courts. Amy Courts is a singer-songwriter, musician, writer, activist, and Seminarian based in Minneapolis, MN where she lives with her husband and son. Amy grew up in Denver, CO the youngest of four preacher's daughters and, after graduating in 2003 with her B.A. in Biblical Studies, moved to Nashville, TN where she independently produced and released two albums and toured with Jennifer Knapp and Derek Webb. After a near-death childbirth experience in 2011, she and her family moved to Minneapolis where she spent the next five years as a stay-home mom, worship leader, and singer-for-hire. In 2017, after a six year hiatus from creating and performing original music, she and her husband fulfilled a decade-long dream of co-creating and -producing a collaborative album as the duo Fireworks on Ferris Wheels for which they enjoyed critical acclaim and indie radio success. Amy also performs in a number of Twin Cities based bands, including with world-renowned guitarist Billy McLaughlin as part of Simple Gifts and Young and the Rest. In the fall of 2018, Amy was offered a full-ride scholarship to Luther Seminary in St. Paul, MN where she is currently earning her Master of Divinity in Justice & Reconciliation while working with numerous local arts-based, humanitarian, religious, and para-church organizations to address systemic injustices against marginalized communities through musical, theological, and political activism centered on economic, environmental, healthcare, and education justice. You can follow Amy on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Amy Courts on her website You can find her music on BandCamp You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Apr 11, 20221h 33m

Ep 63Understanding the Enneagram: A Conversation with Ellen Compton

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In this episode we chat with Ellen Compton. I will let Ellen introduce herself. Allow me to introduce myself with a few miscellaneous thoughts: I am a family-prioritizing, coffee-drinking, truth-telling, authenticity-seeking, list-making, God-following, world-loving, ambiverted, former closet writer. The words laid back have never been used to describe me. I am an unabashed over-user of hashtags and emojis. The message written on my heart is one of identity; I am passionate about living authentically as the person I was created to be and helping others to do likewise…even in the midst of this gauntlet that is life. I live on the east coast of Canada with my family. My teenagers are occasionally mind-boggling, and entirely magnificent. In addition to writing, I teach French to High School students…and all remaining hours are, quite literally, spent in my vehicle, driving the teenagers to hockey practices, rehearsals, horseback riding, and to visit friends. It’s a full, imperfect and wonderful life. You can connect with Ellen on: Facebook Instgram You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Her new book Good Things Happen In The Dark can be purchased on Amazon.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Apr 4, 20221h 9m

Ep 62Body Becoming: A Conversation with Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza

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In this episode we chat with Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza. Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza is a TransQueer Activist, Latinx Scholar, and Politicized Theologian working in the borderlands of church and faith communities, social change movements, and higher education institutions. Important to note about Dr. Robyn is that they are a non-binary Transgender Latinx who is trained as a constructive philosophical theologian and holds a PhD in Religion from the University of Denver. They attended seminary at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary on the campus of Northwestern University. Dr. Robyn teaches in the field of theology and ethics, while also is engaged in the work of social change by participating in varying social justice projects. Dr. Robyn is the Founder of the Activist Theology Project, a collaborative project working to incubate sustainable change in innovative ways using advocacy, art, somatics, and story-telling. Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza new book Body Becoming: A Path To Our Liberation will be released on 3/29/22 You can follow Dr. Robyn on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Dr. Robyn related on their website You can purchase Dr. Robyn's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 28, 202256 min

Ep 61Stupid Sh*t Heard In Church: A Conversation with Chris Kratzer

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In this episode we chat with Chris Kratzer. Chris Kratzer is a pastor and author of 25 years. His transition away from conservative Evangelicalism has served thousands around the world in discovering a faith that doesn't require one to lose their mind, heart, and self in the process. Chris purposes his writing on being a voice for the spiritually oppressed that they may know they are loved, affirmed, and not alone, while also calling the evils of modern, conservative Christianity out of the shadows. Chris is married with four children. Chris's latest book is Stupid Sh*t Heard In Church: And The Truth That Will Wipe You Clean. You can follow Chris on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Chris Kratzer related at his website. You can buy Chri Kratzer's book at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 21, 20221h 3m

Ep 60Flying, Falling, Catching: A Conversation with Carolyn Whitney-Brown

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In this episode we chat with Carolyn Whitney-Brown. Dr. Carolyn Whitney-Brown lived at L'Arche Daybreak in Richmond Hill for seven years, and since then has completed projects for L'Arche Canada and L'Arche International. Whitney-Brown completed her B.A. at Victoria College (University of Toronto), and her M.A. and Ph.D. at Brown University (Rhode Island). Carolyn's latest book Flying, Falling, Catching: An Unlikely Story of Finding Freedom was released March 8, 2022. This is a book that Carolyn finished for her friend Henri Nouwen. 25 years after Henri's death we have the joy through Carolyn's creativity to see Henri's words one more time. You can follow all things Carolyn on here website You can purchase Flying, Falling, Catching and Carolyn's other books on Amazon.com You can watch Carolyn's conversation with Rodleigh Stevens (of the Flying Rodlieghs) here You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 14, 20221h 4m

Part 2 of our Conversation with Diana Butler Bass

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In part 2 we continue our chat with Diana Butler Bass. Diana Butler Bass is an award-winning author, popular speaker, inspiring preacher, and one of America’s most trusted commentators on religion and contemporary spirituality, especially where faith intersects with politics and culture. She holds a doctorate in religious studies from Duke University. Her bylines include The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN.com, Atlantic.com, USA Today, Huffington Post, Christian Century, and Sojourners. She has commented in the media widely including on CBS, CNN, PBS, NPR, CBC, FOX, Sirius XM, TIME, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, Mother Jones, and in multiple global news outlets. In the 1990s, she wrote a weekly column on religion and culture for the Santa Barbara News-Press, which was distributed nationally by the New York Times Syndicate. Diana's latest book Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence will be released in paperback on March 8, 2022. You can follow Diana on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out all things Diana Butler Bass related on her website You can purchase Freeing Jesus and all of Diana's other book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 9, 20221h 13m

Ep 58Freeing Jesus: A Conversation with Diana Butler Bass

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In this episode we chat with Diana Butler Bass. Diana Butler Bass is an award-winning author, popular speaker, inspiring preacher, and one of America’s most trusted commentators on religion and contemporary spirituality, especially where faith intersects with politics and culture. She holds a doctorate in religious studies from Duke University. Her bylines include The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN.com, Atlantic.com, USA Today, Huffington Post, Christian Century, and Sojourners. She has commented in the media widely including on CBS, CNN, PBS, NPR, CBC, FOX, Sirius XM, TIME, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, Mother Jones, and in multiple global news outlets. In the 1990s, she wrote a weekly column on religion and culture for the Santa Barbara News-Press, which was distributed nationally by the New York Times Syndicate. Diana's latest book Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence will be released in paperback on March 8, 2022. You can follow Diana on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out all things Diana Butler Bass related on her website You can purchase Freeing Jesus and all of Diana's other book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 7, 202253 min

Ep 57The Bible Speaks to You: A Conversation with James Early

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In this episode we chat with James Early Here is James' bio in his own words. I am a Bible teacher, speaker, blogger, podcaster, soon-to-be author. And I am a “Jesus mindset”coach. Since October 2008 I have conducted weekly Bible studies at the Federal Correctional Institution in Danbury, CT. I give talks and conduct workshops on the Bible covering a wide range of topics to churches and groups as well as at the prison. I grew up in Amarillo, Texas and was a member of the Presbyterian Church. In high school I became dis-satisfied with some of the things I was being taught there and started going to the Christian Science church, which I have been a member of since. Currently I live in Bethel, CT with my wife, Polly Castor. We have three grown children, which we homeschooled all the way through high school. I was a full-time stay-at-home dad for 10 years when we first started our family. I love to garden and hike in my spare time. I never fit into the corporate world, but have done sales and marketing and voice-over work, which led me to want to share my message instead of someone else's. So, I started The Bible Speaks to You Podcast in the fall of 2019, to explore the here-and-nowness of the kingdom of heaven and how it impacts the way we live our daily lives. The purpose of my podcast is to get back to the original Christianity of Jesus without all the things we have added in the last 2,000 years, to rediscover our right and our ability to think, act, pray, and heal like Jesus did. I am on a journey to discover our right and ability to embrace this mindset of Jesus, to see ourselves through the lens of Christ’s love, and live our lives from the perspective of Jesus’s promise that the kingdom of heaven is at hand. I help others discover this for themselves as well. You can follow James on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out all things connected to James and his podcast on his website You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 28, 20221h 16m

Ep 56Saying No to God: A Conversation with Matthew Korpman

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In this episode we chat with Matthew Korpman. Matthew J. Korpman is a rising biblical scholar, itinerant preacher, and theological arsonist. Currently pursuing his Master of Arts in Religion at Yale Divinity School, he holds four bachelor degrees in Theology, Archaeology, Philosophy, and Screenwriting. He has traveled and excavated in Israel and Jordan, and is proud to call San Diego, California his home. Matthew has written the book Saying No to God: A Radical Approach to Reading the Bible Faithfully published by Quior. You can follow Matthew on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok Check out all things Matthew Korpman at his website You can purchase Matthew's book on Check out Matthew Korpman and other fine authors at Quoir Publishing You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 21, 20221h 7m

Ep 55Walking the Camino with Alexander John Shaia

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We are honored to have back with us - Alexander John Shaia. Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander John was part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up immersed in the ancient traditions of Middle Eastern Christianity (Maronite Catholicism) and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. He was led otherwise. Alexander John attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a brief time in seminary followed by a Master’s in Counseling Education, a Master’s in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His extensive psychological training across many modalities finally led him to Switzerland where he studied with the Jungian Analyst and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora Maria Kalff. Alexander John became the first US man admitted to the International Society for Sandplay Therapy and continues to serve as a senior Certified Teaching Member of the organization. Returning to the United States, he undertook years of private practice, teaching, parish and retreat ministry and further study. Integrating his life-long practice of prayer with many cross-disciplines—anthropology, psychology, spirituality, and ritual work—has shaped him into a unique thought-leader and a widely sought consultant, trainer, and inspiring keynote speaker. Then in 2000, Alexander John’s professional life expanded from being primarily a speaker to also that of an author, now with some eight books and more in the works. He lives in the high Rocky Mountains in Northern New Mexico and the wild Atlantic coast of Northwest Spain. A perfect day finds him in the presence of ancient trees, massive stones, his dog and a book of poetry. You can Follow Alexander John Shaia on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out his website Check out his online classes on The Shift Network You can purchase his book on Amazon.com You can check out his partnership with Quoir Publishing here You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related. Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 14, 202259 min

Ep 54Part 2 with Lisa Sharon Harper - A deeper dive into her book Fortune

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In this second part episode we dive deeper into Lisa Sharon Harper's new book Fortune Ms. Harper is the author of several books, including Evangelical Does Not Equal Republican…or Democrat (The New Press, 2008); Left Right and Christ: Evangelical Faith in Politics (Elevate, 2011); Forgive Us: Confessions of a Compromised Faith (Zondervan, 2014); and the critically acclaimed, The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong can be Made Right (Waterbrook, a division of Penguin Random House, 2016). The Very Good Gospel, recognized as the “2016 Book of the Year” by Englewood Review of Books, explores God’s intent for the wholeness of all relationships in light of today’s headlines. Her latest book Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World - And How to Repair It All releases on 02/08/2022 Ms. Harper earned her Masters degree in Human Rights from Columbia University in New York City, and served as Sojourners Chief Church Engagement Officer. In this capacity, she fasted for 22 days as a core faster in 2013 with the immigration reform Fast for Families. She trained and catalyzed evangelicals in St. Louis and Baltimore to engage the 2014 push for justice in Ferguson and the 2015 healing process in Baltimore, and she educated faith leaders in South Africa to pull the levers of their new democracy toward racial equity and economic inclusion. You can follow Lisa on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Lisa's website to stay connected with all her upcoming events. Here is a link to the trailer for Lisa's new book Fortune You can purchase all of Lisa's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 9, 20221h 8m