The Art Bell Archive

Art Bell welcomes futurist and visionary Gordon Michael Scallion, editor of the Earth Changes Report, for a detailed examination of planetary upheaval and the forces driving accelerating weather catastrophes. Scallion recounts the health crisis in the late 1970s that triggered his prophetic abilities, when a mysterious woman appeared in his hospital room and showed him visions of future earthquakes in Mexico and San Francisco that later came to pass.The conversation delves into Scallion's theory that the core of the Earth has shifted, forcing magma into new pathways and releasing heat into the oceans, which he identifies as the true cause of El Nino. He connects this internal process to the intensifying solar cycle, predicting solar flux counts reaching 500 and warning that massive flares could trigger a magnetic pole shift. He forecasts record-breaking tornadoes, unprecedented floods, and hailstorms with softball-sized stones for the year ahead.Scallion also addresses geopolitical predictions, warning that political unrest in Turkey will escalate into a broader conflict engulfing the Middle East and Europe. He discusses Y2K vulnerabilities, the symbiotic relationship between solar activity and Earth's magnetic field, and his belief that while humanity has passed the fail-safe point for preventing global changes, localized communities can still prepare and adapt.

Art Bell welcomes psychic and author Sylvia Browne for an intimate conversation covering the nature of the afterlife, spirit guides, guardian angels, and the distinction between ghosts and spirits. Browne explains that ghosts are souls who have not made the transition and remain unaware they have died, while spirits are those who crossed over successfully and can return to comfort the living.The discussion moves into deeply personal territory as Browne describes her work counseling AIDS patients in their final moments, drawing parallels to Dannion Brinkley's hospice work with veterans. She recounts guiding a dying man through his last breaths by telling him to lift out of his body the way a plane lifts off a runway. Art and Sylvia explore the idea of life contracts made before birth, the role of guardian angels, and the nature of dark entities and spiritual possession.Callers raise questions about reaching their guardian angels, children who see balls of light, and whether making a pact with evil forces condemns a soul permanently. Browne insists that God is all-loving and all-forgiving, arguing that even those who believe they have bargained with darkness were always destined to find their way back to the light.

Art Bell welcomes Hal Lindsey, bestselling author of The Late Great Planet Earth and one of the most recognized prophecy teachers in the world, for a sweeping conversation about biblical end-times scenarios and their apparent alignment with current events. Lindsey shares his personal journey from tugboat captain in New Orleans to prophecy scholar after a transformative encounter with the New Testament.The discussion covers the prophesied revival of a Roman-style European superpower, the significance of Israel's rebirth as a nation in 1948, and the characteristics the Bible attributes to the coming Antichrist, whom Lindsey believes must already be alive. Art presses him on timelines, cloning ethics, near-death experiences, the Y2K threat, and whether extraterrestrial life conflicts with scripture. Lindsey responds that nothing in the Bible precludes the existence of alien life.Callers challenge Lindsey on topics ranging from abortion and deals with the devil to whether Christianity holds exclusive claim to truth. Throughout, Lindsey maintains that the convergence of wars, earthquakes, plagues, and extreme weather mirrors the biblical pattern of birth pangs increasing in frequency and intensity as a prophesied climax approaches.

Art Bell sits down with renowned abduction researcher Budd Hopkins, author of Intruders, Missing Time, and Witnessed, for a wide-ranging discussion on the alien abduction phenomenon. The program opens with Linda Moulton Howe reporting on mysterious livestock deaths in Ash Fork, Arizona, coral reef die-offs in the Florida Keys, and unexplained bird deaths in Louisiana before Hopkins takes the microphone.Hopkins draws on over two decades of research and more than 650 individual cases to outline what he believes is a systematic genetic breeding program conducted by non-human intelligences. He describes the mechanics of screen memories, where abductees recall seeing owls, car accidents, or other false images implanted to mask the true experience. He shares striking cases of apparent invisibility during abductions, including a woman whose presence failed to trigger electric eye sensors at an airport.The conversation turns to the NOVA documentary that Hopkins says suppressed all conscious recollection evidence and physical traces while claiming there was no proof. He and Art also discuss government knowledge, the motives of the visitors, and the growing media interest in the subject.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Jeffrey Long, a radiation oncologist and near-death experience researcher, alongside licensed clinical psychologist Trisha McGill to examine the rarely discussed phenomenon of frightening near-death experiences. Dr. Long reveals that up to 15 percent of NDEs may be terrifying rather than blissful, yet experiencers seldom speak about them due to shame and fear of judgment.The broadcast features an extraordinary firsthand account from a woman named Sarah, who was struck by a pickup truck while bicycling home from church and flatlined five times over three days. She describes passing through a tunnel of clouds containing doorways to different realms, including a hellish landscape of torment, a world of isolated wandering souls, a luminous paradise she could not enter, and ultimately a place of pure light and joy. Her account stands as one of the most detailed negative NDE testimonies ever shared on the program.Dr. Long then shares his own frightening experience for the first time publicly, discussing how prophetic dreams and a terrifying vision transformed his understanding of consciousness. Both guests emphasize that frightening NDEs hold equal potential for profound personal transformation as their blissful counterparts.

Art Bell is joined by private investigator Ed Pankau, author of the forthcoming book "Hide Your Assets and Disappear," who draws on decades of experience tracking fugitives to explain how someone could vanish and start over. Pankau, ranked among the nation's top ten private investigators, reveals that only about one in four or five people who attempt to disappear actually succeed long-term.The conversation covers practical realities of modern surveillance, from credit bureau tracking to airline records and electronic communications monitoring. Pankau explains that countries like Belize and Honduras welcome Americans with modest savings, offering citizenship and passports for deposits as low as fifty thousand dollars. He notes that retirees living on Social Security can stretch their income significantly in such locations, enjoying a better quality of life at half the cost.Art and Pankau discuss the fine line between privacy and criminality, the role of technology in modern investigation, and how the Unabomber evaded capture for years by living completely off the grid. Pankau emphasizes the cardinal rule of disappearing: three can keep a secret if two of them are dead, meaning anyone who brings others along dramatically increases their chances of being found.

Art Bell reconnects with Major Ed Dames, a former military intelligence officer and trained remote viewer, who has spent five weeks in seclusion on the Big Island of Hawaii attempting to remote view Satan. Dames reports that Satan is a distinct entity separate from the devil, describing it as a glorious but cold crystalline white light being whose mind remains active on Earth through communication with subordinate forces.Dames distinguishes between Satan, who exists far from Earth, and the devil, whom he identifies as a powerful angel operating as commander-in-chief of dark forces on the planet. He describes the devil's primary strategy as catalyzing war and hatred among humanity, exploiting extremism to maximize the destruction of human souls. According to his sessions, these entities cannot steal souls directly but work to engineer conditions where people extinguish their own through chronic sin.The discussion turns to the Antichrist, which Dames says has shifted from a general field effect to a specific individual, a male child born the previous year under horrific circumstances. Dames also reveals current satanic strategies involving a Middle Eastern assassination plot and a biological warfare facility that the devil appears to oversee as a personal project.

Art Bell speaks with Patrick Roy Mooney of the Rural Advancement Foundation International about a jointly developed technology between the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Delta and Pine Land Company that genetically alters plants so the seeds they produce are sterile. Mooney, who coined the term "Terminator" for this technology, explains how it forces farmers to repurchase seed every season rather than saving harvested seed for replanting.The discussion reveals that 1.4 billion people worldwide depend on farm-saved seed for survival. Mooney warns that pollen from Terminator crops could spread to neighboring fields, potentially sterilizing crops of farmers who never purchased the engineered seed. A University of Chicago study suggests genetically altered plants are 20 times more likely to outcross with natural varieties, raising the specter of widespread unintended crop failure.Mooney details how 34 related patents are pending or granted across major agrochemical corporations, with an estimated 80 percent of commercial seed projected to carry Terminator traits by 2010. He urges listeners to write Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman demanding the technology be shelved before it reaches the global marketplace.

Art Bell is joined by investigative journalist William Thomas, who reports on unusual aerial spraying patterns observed across 18 U.S. states. Thomas describes formations of multi-engine aircraft flying in grid-like patterns, leaving trails that do not dissipate like normal contrails but instead spread into milky overcast skies, accompanied by reports of cobweb-like filaments drifting to the ground.Thomas presents HAARP patent documentation from inventor Bernard Eastland, including U.S. Patent 4686605, which references using directed energy beams exceeding one billion watts for altering upper atmospheric wind patterns. He connects this to a U.S. Air Force paper titled "Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025," confirming military interest in weather modification through ionospheric manipulation and aerial seeding.Callers from across the country report severe respiratory illnesses, hospitals overwhelmed with patients, and mysterious fibrous material falling from the sky. Thomas notes that subscribers to the Environmental News Service have nearly doubled since his reporting, with new sign-ups traced to FAA, Pentagon, and National Security Agency addresses.

Art Bell welcomes Chief Arvol Looking Horse, the 19th generation keeper of the sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe and spiritual leader of the Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota nations. At just 12 years old, Looking Horse inherited this sacred responsibility based on his grandmother's prophetic dream, making him the youngest keeper in history.The conversation moves through Lakota spiritual beliefs, including the four stages of life, the spirit releasing ceremony, and the profound significance of four white buffalo calves born since 1994, fulfilling ancient prophecy. Chief Looking Horse describes attending a NASA workshop on climate and earth changes, where scientists sought indigenous perspectives on environmental shifts already visible in unusual weather patterns, burning sun, and ecological disruption.Art and the Chief discuss the prophecy of a coming black cloud, the crisis of youth suicide across communities, and the suppression of Native spiritual practices from 1890 until the American Indian Religious Freedom Act of 1978. Looking Horse calls for a global World Peace and Prayer Day on June 21st, urging collective spiritual energy to heal Mother Earth.

Art Bell welcomes Alex Heard, editor at Wired Magazine and author of Apocalypse Pretty Soon, a book exploring American subcultures driven by millennial and utopian visions of transformation. Heard describes years spent embedded with groups ranging from Christian pre-millennialists awaiting biblical prophecy to libertarians planning artificial island nations in the Pacific. He discusses Jerry Falwell's recent claim that the Antichrist is alive on Earth and likely a Jewish male, placing it in the historical context of Antichrist theorizing from Nero to Ronald Reagan.The conversation shifts to longevity research and the unsettling patent filed by lawyer Chet Fleming for a device to keep a severed human head alive on a console. Heard connects this to Dr. Robert White's monkey head transplant experiments and raises the question of who would deserve or want such preservation. Art notes that the technology may already be closer than most people realize and speculates that private labs could be conducting such work in secret.Heard shares his experience at the Monroe Institute attempting out-of-body travel and his research into earth changes prophecies from figures like Lori Toye and Gordon Michael Scallion. A ghost photograph arrives mid-broadcast from Canton, Michigan, which Art scans and posts to his website in real time, prompting an on-air call with the photographer.

Art Bell welcomes Stuart Rodman, a researcher who has studied the North American Electric Reliability Council's assessment of Y2K vulnerabilities in the continental power grid. Rodman explains that the real threat lies not in computers, which handle mostly billing functions, but in automated embedded chips found in voltage regulators, digital surge protectors, circuit breakers, and relay switches scattered throughout the infrastructure. Many of these mission-critical components were built without human-accessible controls and may contain date-sensitive chips that have never been tested.Rodman introduces the concept of a common mode failure, the nightmare scenario in which identical components from the same manufacturer fail simultaneously across multiple regions, defeating the grid's built-in sector isolation. He reveals that NERC's official plan calls for operating the grid in a precautionary mode during a critical transition period around the year 2000 rollover, reducing power transfers between utilities and bringing older generation equipment online as backup.Art presses Rodman on whether January 1, 2000 will be a good day or a bad day. Rodman answers that it depends on where you live, noting that midwinter weather emergencies could compound any technical failures. Callers share early Y2K glitches already surfacing, including Social Security phone outages and taxi meter failures in Singapore.

Art Bell welcomes Joseph DeLouise, named one of America's top ten psychics by American Woman magazine, for a wide-ranging conversation about prediction, belief, and the dangers of the occult. DeLouise, also a registered financial advisor, shares his forecast that the stock market will take a significant dip in 1999 but recover quickly as billions in sidelined money rush back in. He advises listeners to watch European markets over the next few years and look to Asia after that.The conversation turns personal as DeLouise describes his decades of psychic work, including contributions to the Sharon Tate murder case and the Chappaquiddick tragedy. He explains his belief that anyone can develop predictive abilities by turning inward rather than intellectualizing, though he warns that tools like the Ouija board can become dangerously obsessive. Art shares his own unsettling experience with an ancient Ouija board left for him anonymously at a Las Vegas radio station, calling it one of the few things he refuses to discuss on air.Callers raise topics from the government's plan to develop a fungal agent to eradicate marijuana worldwide to earthquakes rumbling beneath Mount Hood in Oregon. DeLouise and Art agree that tampering with any species put on Earth by nature or a creator risks unintended and potentially catastrophic consequences.

Art Bell hosts a special evening devoted to the state of UFO disclosure, featuring political lobbyist Stephen Bassett and a lineup of prominent figures in ufology. Peter Davenport of the National UFO Reporting Center opens the show with a fresh sighting report from Paradise, California, where a pilot witnessed a massive diamond-shaped craft with a starburst center traveling west at low altitude. Bassett outlines his strategy for pressuring Congress, arguing that the end of the Clinton impeachment saga will create a political vacuum ripe for the disclosure issue.Dr. Steven M. Greer joins to announce his Witness Archive Project, an effort to record broadcast-quality testimony from nearly 200 military witnesses before they pass away. Richard C. Hoagland discusses anomalous weather radar signatures he believes reveal a covert defense system, and teases a forthcoming Fox television special linking Cydonia on Mars to a chamber beneath the Sphinx in Egypt. Attorney Peter Gersten of Citizens Against UFO Secrecy reflects on lessons learned from the Robert Stevens hoax.Throughout the evening, the guests debate whether disclosure can come through political channels or requires a civilian-led media effort to overwhelm government secrecy. Bassett suggests President Clinton, seeking a post-impeachment legacy, could become the ideal disclosure president.

Art Bell opens the phone lines for an all-topics evening and designates a special line for callers to share their worst dating experiences. Listeners recount tales of forgotten concert tickets, disastrous blind dates, jealous roommates, and being thrown out on Christmas Eve in a Montana snowstorm. Art also discusses the Clinton impeachment trial, Y2K preparedness letters from Nevada Power, and a Yale astronomer warning that sun-like stars can produce catastrophic super flares.Between the dating horror stories, callers weigh in on internet stock valuations, the New World Order, and a creative proposal to place a giant sun filter in orbit to control Earth's climate. Art shares news of El Nino's unexpected persistence, fire ant invasions in Southern California, and FEMA officials urging communities to prepare for potential Y2K disruptions. A caller from Canada reports that military reserves have been denied leave through March 2000 for possible riot control duties.The broadcast moves freely between the lighthearted and the serious as callers debate why humans have not returned to the moon, whether the Ouija board is dangerous, and what it means when Canadian authorities prepare for civil unrest over Y2K while their citizens remain famously calm.

Art Bell interviews Michael Theroux, director of the Borderland Sciences Research Foundation, covering a wide range of fringe science topics. The conversation begins with the conclusion of the Robert A.M. Stephens affair, as Theroux, who built Stevens's website, confirms that investigations revealed his NASA contractor and Navy SEAL claims were fabricated. Stevens ultimately admitted to the deception and asked that his site be taken down.The discussion moves to plant consciousness research, where Theroux describes recreating Cleve Baxter's polygraph experiments from the 1960s. Their four-year study confirmed that plants exhibit measurable electrical responses to human thoughts and emotions, even from distant locations. Theroux references the famous experiment in which a plant reacted violently when the scientist who had previously destroyed a lettuce re-entered the room, footage captured in the 1974 film The Secret Life of Plants. He also describes L. George Lawrence's research suggesting plants communicate at speeds exceeding light.The program covers Y2K preparedness, with Theroux taking a moderate position that problems will occur but will not be catastrophic. He discusses Nikola Tesla's suppressed wireless power transmission technology, the Taos Hum phenomenon, HAARP's military potential, anomalous SOHO satellite images, and weather modification experiments. A fax from a professional pilot claims direct involvement in government-funded weather modification programs using chemical dispersal from aircraft.

Art Bell interviews author William Henry about his provocative thesis that Jesus visited America 2,000 years ago to hide a powerful device and spread secret teachings, and that he will return in July 1999 in fulfillment of Nostradamus's King of Terror prophecy. Henry draws connections between Essene traditions, the Dead Sea Scrolls, Sumerian mythology, and Mayan calendars to argue that a golden pillar called the Pillar of Osiris served as a gateway between dimensions and a channel for souls to enter the Earth plane.The discussion traces this device through Egypt, France, Mexico, and Mongolia. Henry reveals that President Franklin Roosevelt sent agents to Mongolia in 1934 searching for this artifact after his Secretary of Agriculture, Henry Wallace, became convinced that Jesus had reincarnated there. He connects the placement of the Great Seal on the dollar bill in 1935 to the possible recovery of the device. Henry also links the word "terror" to Jesus through medieval Grail legends and the Hebrew linguistic connection between moon, mother, and terror.Art presses Henry on how a returning messianic figure could be taken seriously in modern cynical America and how his theories reconcile with traditional Christian theology. Henry argues that America is the prophesied New Jerusalem where a temple school will be constructed, initiating a thousand years of peace. He also hints at discovering a substance on the periodic table with cancer-curing properties through his decoding of a French parchment.

Art Bell hosts a heated three-way confrontation between Richard C. Hoagland and Paul Dore of Great Britain over the EQ Pegasi signal hoax that shook the astronomy and UFO communities in late 1998. The controversy began when a BBC report announced that a part-time astronomer had detected signals from the EQ Pegasi star system 22 light years away. Both men had publicly accused each other of perpetrating the hoax, but during the broadcast they each concede the other may not be responsible.Paul Dore admits to forging one email header in an attempt to flush out the real hoaxer, while Hoagland maintains the incident was an elaborate wake-up call orchestrated by intelligence agencies on both sides of the Atlantic. Art brokers a fragile truce, persuading both men to exchange information through intermediaries to identify the true perpetrator. The discussion reveals that Dore's online gaming handle was appropriated by the hoaxer, and Hoagland's initials were planted on the original website.The program shifts to a chilling letter from a heavily credentialed intelligence insider who warns that pursuing weather control research could be fatal. Art reads portions of the letter describing rogue government groups and a countdown already underway. The broadcast also addresses the exposure of Robert A.M. Stephens, a self-described NASA contractor whose claims about his credentials and military background were debunked by listeners and researchers following his previous appearance.

Art Bell opens with wide-ranging news commentary on Y2K glitches already surfacing, the Clinton impeachment trial, and Iraq tensions before welcoming Robert Ghost Wolf, a Matei mixed-blood Native American ceremonial leader and author. The program begins with somber news that Speaking Wind, a recent guest who discussed HAARP and weather control, has died of a heart attack on December 22nd, just days after his appearance on the show.Ghost Wolf outlines the Seven Thunders prophecies, born from a gathering of Native elders in the early 1980s, which describe escalating signs of a coming purification as Earth transitions from the fourth world to the fifth. He explains that humanity has now entered the seventh thunder, marked by volcanic activity, earthquakes, and extreme weather anomalies. According to both Hopi and Mayan traditions, the purification cannot be reversed and the shift between worlds is accelerating beyond the ability of prophets to predict events.The conversation turns to anomalous photographs from the SOHO satellite showing unexplained objects near the sun. Ghost Wolf connects these images to Mayan prophecies about ancestors returning from beyond the stars during a specific window between December 1998 and February 1999. Art also shares a touching on-air marriage proposal from a listener couple who met while accessing his website at a college library.

Art Bell welcomes back Dr. Jonathan Reed and Robert Raith to revisit one of the most controversial alien encounter stories ever told on the program. Dr. Reed recounts his 1996 experience in the Cascade Mountains of Washington state, where he claims his dog was killed by a small humanoid creature that he then struck with a branch, discovered a hovering black obelisk emitting a harmonic tone, and transported the being home in a thermal blanket.The discussion covers new photographic evidence, including detailed close-up images of the creature's head and eye that Art has posted to his website. Dr. Reed describes subsequent events: the creature reanimating in his freezer days later, his house being ransacked, the disappearance of his friend Gary, and the death of his associate Dolly under suspicious circumstances. He reveals for the first time that a small device with three symbols and three needles, believed to link the alien to the obelisk, has been examined and smuggled out of the country.Callers press Dr. Reed on details about the creature's clothing, his emotional state, and his credibility. Reed confirms he passed a polygraph test and describes how 75 percent of his evidence was stolen. Robert Raith discusses their ongoing efforts to publish a book titled Link: An Extraterrestrial Odyssey and their search for a publisher willing to take on the project despite reported threats.

Art Bell welcomes television producer Robert Kiviat, known for his Fox Network specials on UFOs and unexplained phenomena. Kiviat has secured exclusive rights to a remarkable six-and-a-half-minute UFO video shot by Sharon Rowlands, a Derbyshire housewife who captured the footage after hearing strange sounds outside her home during a wave of UFO activity in October 1997. The BBC ran the story as front-page news, and Kiviat paid a licensing fee of approximately 20,000 dollars for broadcast rights.What makes the footage particularly significant is its striking resemblance to objects captured by NASA cameras during the famous space shuttle tether incident. Both show disc-shaped craft with a distinctive notch on the edge and a pulsing circle in the center. Kiviat plans to challenge NASA to publicly address the similarity between their own space footage and this ground-level recording from England, testing whether the agency will finally acknowledge what their cameras have captured.Art also showcases an anonymously submitted UFO video from North Bay, Ontario, that he describes as one of the most impressive he has ever seen. Kiviat discusses his upcoming series "Could It Be True," additional cases involving UFO footage from a family traveling through Texas, and a Bigfoot video from the Florida Everglades.

Art Bell welcomes Major Ed Dames from the Hawaiian Islands, where the former military remote viewer has relocated his company. Dames opens with results from his team's remote viewing of Nostradamus' Century 10, Quatrain 72, which references the seventh month of 1999. Rather than confirming the solar kill shot he previously predicted, Dames reveals his viewers perceived a terrorist biological weapons attack on what appears to be Shea Stadium in New York during a baseball game, carried out by three or four individuals who bring a powdery agent into the venue.The conversation shifts dramatically when Dames announces his intention to remote view Satan himself, profiling the entity's strategies, operations, and particularly its failures throughout history. Art expresses genuine alarm, warning that such an undertaking risks not just physical danger but the imperiling of one's eternal soul. Dames cites Father Malachi Martin's solitary battle against dark forces as inspiration and frames the project as a necessary intelligence-gathering mission against an adversary that humanity has largely ignored.Dames also addresses Y2K, stating that his remote viewing teams have not detected it as a significant event, suggesting it will either be minor or preempted by larger catastrophes. He reaffirms his prediction of a North Korean nuclear weapon use and a devastating solar kill shot between 1999 and 2001.

Art Bell presents investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe with a remarkable firsthand account from Glenn Pace, a man who worked at the Nevada Test Site in the early 1960s. Pace describes a card game with physicist Otto Krauss and a member of the MJ-12 staff, during which details about the secret organization were casually discussed. The MJ-12 member explained that President Truman created the group by executive order in response to UFO incidents from the 1940s, giving it autonomous authority, its own budget, and independence from both Congress and the presidency.Pace recounts being told about craft retrievals predating Roswell, including one from the Ozarks in the early 1940s, consistent with the reported 1941 Cape Girardeau, Missouri incident. The MJ-12 member described the propulsion technology as magnetic in nature and said the power source was classified at a higher level than the atomic bomb. He also referenced a specific element used in the craft, which Pace later recognized as Element 115 when hearing Bob Lazar discuss it years later.Linda connects this testimony to newly released MJ-12 documents, including the White Hot Intelligence Assessment from September 1947, which explicitly references the Missouri discovery and confirms the craft were deemed extraterrestrial in origin.

Art Bell opens with Richard C. Hoagland presenting new findings about Turret Peak in central Arizona, where bizarre radar anomalies and weather disturbances were detected around December 6th and 7th. Hoagland introduces eyewitness Daryl Smith, a computer programmer who drove his Humvee to Turret Peak on the night of December 7th and experienced catastrophic tire failure, dead batteries, strange low-frequency thumping sounds, unusual warmth at high elevation, and severe radio interference. Smith and his companion walked 12 miles through freezing temperatures and nearly died from exposure.Hoagland connects these events to radar data showing circular electromagnetic signatures centered not on civilian radar stations but on military installations across the country. He theorizes a nationwide electromagnetic shield system, possibly codenamed Project Samson, is being tested or activated. Former NASA associates and researchers like Steven Greer have examined the data and found it consistent with classified military activity.Attorney Peter Gersten joins to discuss the legal landscape of UFO secrecy, recounting his Supreme Court battles against the CIA and NSA for UFO documents. He and Hoagland discuss the accelerating pattern of unusual events and what Gersten sees as an approaching test of human sovereignty and self-determination.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Glenn Kimball, a scholar who has spent over 25 years researching ancient manuscripts about the life of Jesus Christ. Dr. Kimball reveals that millions of extra-biblical documents exist worldwide that tell a very different story from conventional Sunday school teachings, including claims that Jesus had older stepbrothers and sisters, that his family was extraordinarily wealthy, and that Joseph was an architect rather than a simple carpenter.The conversation examines the Star of Bethlehem as a merger of Jupiter and Saturn in 7 B.C., which can be verified through modern astronomical software. Dr. Kimball explains how this dating shifts the accepted timeline, suggesting Jesus lived to age 40 rather than 33, due to a calendar error by the monk Dionysius Ignatius in 533 A.D. He also discusses Joseph of Arimathea as the protector of the young Jesus and the extensive wealth of the holy family.Art opens the program with a striking personal admission that he cannot categorically state he believes in God. Dr. Kimball responds not as clergy but as a historian, presenting what he considers overwhelming manuscript evidence supporting the historical existence of Jesus and the hidden details of his birth, childhood, and family lineage.