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Ep 142REMASTERED: Finding Your Identity and Creating Breakthroughs in Life, with Amelia Rose Earhart (Aviation, Inspiration, Motivation, History)

Author, speaker, artist and pilot Amelia Rose Earhart explains how her famous namesake ignited her life's passion, why flying around the world isn't enough without a good narrative, piecing together a secret flightplan, planning for disaster over international waters, and the true meaning of identity.

Oct 10, 202322 min

CLIP: Can't Spell "Attraction" Without "Action"

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Best-selling author and speaker Jack Canfield explains his understanding of the Law of Attraction, how it's practically used, and why it's not a passive law.Hear Jack's full interview in Episode 231 of The Action Catalyst.

Oct 5, 20233 min

Overtime with Outland: Jeffrey Hayzlett, Episode 442

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Overtime with Outland is Action Catalyst host Adam Outland's reflections and commentary on discussions with each of his esteemed and accomplished guests. In this segment, Adam dissects Episode 442, with Jeffrey Hayzlett, TV/radio/podcast host, and Chairman of the C-Suite Network.

Oct 4, 20232 min

Ep 442Don't Ask For Permission and Go Faster, with Jeffrey Hayzlett (Media, C-Suite, Business, Executive)

TV/radio/podcast host, and Chairman of the C-Suite Network, Jeffrey Hayzlett, talks about why every company needs to think like a media company, how content > community > commerce, dealing with coffee-throwing CEOs, why to never waste a good crisis, being a "business first responder", the upside of weathering a recession, inspiration from Hamilton, and why rule #1 is "don't work with a**holes".Mentioned in this episode:Learn more at SouthwesternConsulting.com/Coaching/StudentsSouthwestern Student Coaching

Oct 3, 202328 min

CLIP: The Katelyn Rule

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TV/radio/podcast host, and Chairman of the C-Suite Network, Jeffrey Hayzlett, explains The Katelyn Rule, a trick for setting expectations for new employees, and empowering them to take initiative and make decisions on their own.Hear Jeffrey's full interview in Episode 137 of The Action Catalyst

Oct 1, 20233 min

Happy International Podcast Day!

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Wishing all of our listeners in over 150 countries around the globe a Happy International Podcast Day! Connect with us: https://linktr.ee/ActionCatalyst

Sep 30, 20231 min

Ep 137REMASTERED: Think Big, Act Bigger, with Jeffrey Hayzlett (Media, Business, Leadership, Innovation, Change Management)

TV/radio/podcast host, and Chairman of the C-Suite Network, Jeffrey Hayzlett, talks about creating “LinkedIn on steroids”, setting conditions of satisfaction, and his relationship with Donald Trump, and why mood overcomes culture, why it’s not the lucky who win (it’s the relentless), how to make a policy of “Big Dogs Only”, and the importance of thinking big, and acting bigger.

Sep 29, 202316 min

CLIP: Leadership Lessons From Ted Lasso

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Jim Bartolomea, SVP and Global Head of People and Places at ClickUp, talks about the hardest part of learning to manage people, normalizing imposter syndrome, and leadership lessons from Ted Lasso.Hear Jim's full interview in Episode 441 of The Action Catalyst.

Sep 28, 20233 min

Ep 231REMASTERED: The Success Principles, with Jack Canfield (Chicken Soup for the Soul, Entrepreneurship, Inspiration, Motivation)

Best-selling author and speaker Jack Canfield chats about fulfilling your soul’s purpose and evolving that purpose, choosing love over fear, the secret behind “The Secret”, conducting thought experiments on the Moon, why thinking doesn’t beat action, and always, always, always asking for feedback.

Sep 26, 202310 min

Overtime with Outland: Jim Bartolomea, Episode 441

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Overtime with Outland is Action Catalyst host Adam Outland's reflections and commentary on discussions with each of his esteemed and accomplished guests. In this segment, Adam dissects Episode 441, with Jim Bartolomea, SVP and Global Head of People and Places at ClickUp.

Sep 20, 20232 min

Ep 441Be Curious, with Jim Bartolomea (Human Resources, Management, Leadership, Company Culture)

Jim Bartolomea, SVP and Global Head of People and Places at ClickUp, talks about his "softie", Broadway-loving, military father, creating a benefits program that drives retention, why letting people go in a beautiful way is hugely important to remaining employees, why people leave managers, not jobs, conducting "stay" rather than "exit" interviews, having confidence in NOT knowing everything, the value of new AI tools like Bard and ChatGPT in the HR world, leadership lessons from Ted Lasso, and how you’ll ALWAYS make the right choice if you just ask yourself "Is it the RIGHT thing to do?"Mentioned in this episode:Learn more at SouthwesternConsulting.com/Coaching/StudentsSouthwestern Student Coaching

Sep 19, 202329 min

CLIP: Stop, Learn, and Implement

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Emmy Award-winning media brand advisor, content coach, and podcast host, Vinnie Potestivo chats about how clarity beats speed, the three types of creatives, and the value of keeping track of credits and aligning yourself with partners who fill your gaps.Hear Vinnie's full interview in Episode 440 of The Action Catalyst.

Sep 14, 20234 min

Ep 440The Outcome of Now, with Vinnie Potestivo (Television, Entertainment, Media Strategy, Content)

Emmy Award-winning media brand advisor, content coach, and podcast host, Vinnie Potestivo chats about the dawn of reality TV, the advantage Jessica Simpson had in the 2000s, why helping the underdog is cool, the real people economy vs creator economy, how clarity beats speed, the three types of creatives, strategy vs tactics, supporting vs promoting, the relative simplicity of winning an Emmy, and how Beyonce is a small business owner.

Sep 5, 202322 min

CLIP: The Freedom to Become Dumb and Stupid

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Author and productivity consultant David Allen covers the basics of his system for subdividing tasks and to-dos in a way that makes it obvious exactly when, and where, to do them, and explains how organization ultimately gives you the freedom to be stupid.Hear David's full interview in Episode 439 of The Action Catalyst.

Aug 31, 20233 min

Overtime with Outland: David Allen, Episode 439

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Overtime with Outland is Action Catalyst host Adam Outland's reflections and commentary on discussions with each of his esteemed and accomplished guests. In this segment, Adam dissects Episode 439, with author and productivity consultant David Allen.

Aug 23, 20231 min

Ep 439Getting Things Done, with David Allen (Productivity, Time Management, Organization, Author)

Author and productivity consultant David Allen covers how he valued "clear space" even as a kid, the benefit of writing the reviews before the book, reverse engineering your intuitive skills, why his system works just as well on Jupiter as on Earth, his time with Drew Carey, the listification of all of life’s tasks, why one of the biggest issues out there is addiction to ambient anxiety, his “2 minute rule”, and how organization gives you the freedom to be stupid.Mentioned in this episode:Learn more at SouthwesternConsulting.com/Coaching/StudentsSouthwestern Student Coaching

Aug 22, 202328 min

CLIP: Finding Your "Why"

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Sales leader, artist, and ADHD & mental health advocate Amber Shae Friedman explains why “finding your why” is the most important advice she can give for both sales, and life.Hear Amber's full interview in her bonus episode of The Action Catalyst.

Aug 18, 20231 min

CLIP: The First Step to Starting is Starting

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Susan Beischel, designer, entrepreneur, and founder/CEO of luxury brand Skin, explains why it’s never too late to start or make a change, and how simply setting the wheels in motion is the single biggest step.Hear Susan's full interview in Episode 438 of The Action Catalyst.

Aug 17, 20232 min

Live Life Now, with Amber Shae Friedman (Sales, Coaching, Purpose, Mindset)

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Sales leader, artist, and ADHD & mental health advocate Amber Shae Friedman recounts being the only woman in the sales department at every auto and RV dealership she worked at, giving women a voice in her industry, the experience as a client of Southwestern Coaching, the best financial decision she ever made, and the importance of “finding your why”.Mentioned in this episode:This episode is brought to you by Southwestern Coaching.Southwestern Coaching

Aug 11, 202314 min

CLIP: I DO So Like Green Eggs and Ham

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Elite-level sales and leadership coach and Partner of Southwestern Consulting, Dave Brown, explains why “Green Eggs and Ham” is hands-down THE best book on sales ever written, and why persistence is a rare quality that can't be practiced.Hear Dave's full interview in Episode 437 of The Action Catalyst.

Aug 10, 20232 min

Ep 438More Than Skin Deep, with Susan Beischel (Fashion, Entrepreneurship, Resilience, Business)

Susan Beischel, designer, entrepreneur, and founder/CEO of luxury brand Skin, talks about working at Neiman Marcus alongside Stanley Marcus, always listening to what’s inside of you, why it’s never too late to start or make a change, how resilience is an achievement in itself, being "built for challenge", what discipline REALLY is, and why she’s known as the "queen of pleasure".

Aug 8, 202322 min

CLIP: Finding Your "Zone of Genius"

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NASA Flight Surgeon, peak performance coach, and "Productivity MD" Dr. Ann Tsung explains talks about finding your “zone of genius”, and the 3-step process to efficiency (automating, delegating, and eliminating).Hear Dr. Tsung’s full interview in Episode 436 of The Action Catalyst.

Aug 3, 20232 min

Overtime with Outland: Dave Brown, Episode 437

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Overtime with Outland is Action Catalyst host Adam Outland's reflections and commentary on discussions with each of his esteemed and accomplished guests. In this segment, Adam dissects Episode 437, with author, speaker, founding Partner of Southwestern Consulting, and elite-level sales and leadership coach, Dave Brown.

Aug 2, 20232 min

Ep 437Servant Selling, with Dave Brown (Sales, Leadership, Coaching, Relationships)

Elite-level sales and leadership coach and Partner of Southwestern Consulting, Dave Brown, details his new book and guiding principle of “Servant Selling”, as well as the only two ways to earn money in the world (hint: they're both the same thing), why “Green Eggs and Ham” is THE best book on sales ever written, exploiting your uniqueness in service of others, “WYDFLI” motivation, creating credibility deposits, perpetually being valuable, and how asking for someone’s business empowers THEM.You can also catch Dave’s previous appearance on Episode 195 of The Action Catalyst.Mentioned in this episode:Learn more at SouthwesternConsulting.com/Coaching/StudentsSouthwestern Student CoachingThis episode is presented by Dave Brown's "Servant Selling", available now.Servant Selling, by Dave Brown

Aug 1, 202334 min

CLIP: Acres of Diamonds

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Dan Moore shares his wisdom from spending half a century with the same company, learning to bloom where you’re planted, and not ignore the “acres of diamonds” beneath your feet.Hear Dan’s full interview in Episode 435 of The Action Catalyst.

Jul 27, 20231 min

Ep 436It's Not Rocket Science, with Dr. Ann Tsung (Productivity, Performance, Management, Decision Making)

NASA Flight Surgeon, peak performance coach, and "Productivity MD" Dr. Ann Tsung explains how delegation makes financial sense and why efficiency means automating, delegating, and eliminating, talks about working within your "zone of genius", using an Eisenhower matrix, hiring a virtual assistant, obtaining the "5 Freedoms", and learning English from Full House, and shares her super relatable hobby as an Olympic weightlifter, as well as a few travel tips....if you’re headed to Antarctica.

Jul 25, 202320 min

Meet Action Catalyst Host Stephanie Maas!

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Please join us in welcoming our newest Action Catalyst host, Stephanie Maas! With more than 25 years of experience, Stephanie is an executive search Partner with ThinkingAhead Executive Search, where she sees her purpose as improving the lives of others by providing life-altering opportunities for her candidates and clients through talent acquisition. Stephanie brings a fresh energy to the podcast, where she takes her place alongside Adam Outland as a full-time host.Learn even more about Stephanie in her interview on Episode 420 of The Action Catalyst.

Jul 21, 20233 min

CLIP: Success Follows Failures

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Roy Dekel, CEO and Co-Founder of SetSchedule, shares the existential wisdom of Shakespeare, and why the biggest successes often only come after the biggest failures.Hear Roy’s full interview in Episode 434 of The Action Catalyst.

Jul 20, 20232 min

Overtime with Outland: Dan Moore, Episode 435

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Overtime with Outland is Action Catalyst host Adam Outland's reflections and commentary on discussions with each of his esteemed and accomplished guests. In this segment, Adam dissects Episode 435, with author, speaker, former Action Catalyst host, and past president of Southwestern Advantage, Dan Moore.

Jul 19, 20231 min

Ep 435Forward to Better, with Dan Moore (Education, Inspiration, Leadership, Personal Development)

As he exits his role as Action Catalyst host, Dan Moore shares his wisdom from spending half a century with the same company, helping young people grow, bringing a 150+ year old institution into the modern age, his shared past with Bill Gates, some of the most impactful lessons learned from 5 years in the host chair of The Action Catalyst, the value of wearing emotional blinders, and digging for acres of diamonds.Mentioned in this episode:In Control, Influence, Accept (For Now), author and former Action Catalyst host Dan Moore explains simple principles and strategies to help you prepare for, and cope with, a future no one can predict. Order now at CIAFN.com.CIA(FN)Learn more at SouthwesternConsulting.com/Coaching/StudentsSouthwestern Student Coaching

Jul 18, 202328 min

Ep 434The Life In Between, with Roy Dekel (Tech, Military, Entrepreneurship, Business)

Roy Dekel, CEO and Co-Founder of SetSchedule, recounts how his time as an officer in the Israeli secret services translated to the business world and what this former warrior considers to be his kryptonite, explains his mission to put solopreneurs on a level playing field with the big boys, and tackles topics like joy vs amusement, decision fatigue, the existential wisdom of Shakespeare, and why the biggest successes often only come after the biggest failures.

Jul 11, 202323 min

CLIP: Don't Just Help Customers, OBSESS Over Them

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Business strategist, leadership expert, and former Amazon executive John Rossman explains some of the principles essential to how Amazon became the consumer and media giant they are today, including all-out customer obsession, and how you don’t have to be an Amazon-sized business to do it.Hear John’s full interview in Episode 433 of The Action Catalyst.

Jul 6, 20232 min

CLIP: Buddhists, Nuns, and Surfers

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Steven Kotler, New York Times bestselling author, award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective, explains the most common flow state on earth that every one of us has experienced every week, plus what Buddhists, nuns, and surfers have in common (according to neuroscience).Hear Steven’s full interview across Episodes 431 and 432 of The Action Catalyst.

Jun 29, 20233 min

Adam Outland on the Super Entrepreneur's Podcast

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Action Catalyst host Adam Outland joins the Super Entrepreneur's Podcast with host Shahid Durrani.Episode Description:Welcome to an exhilarating episode of the Super Entrepreneurs Podcast, where we dive deep into the world of sales, leadership, and personal growth. In this captivating conversation, we have the privilege of hosting Adam Outland, an esteemed elite level coach and partner at Southwestern Consulting, renowned for his expertise in empowering individuals to reach their full potential. Join us as Adam shares his remarkable journey and reveals the secrets behind mastering sales, cultivating effective leadership skills, and igniting personal growth. With over a decade of experience in coaching professionals, Adam unveils the essential skills and mindset necessary for achieving remarkable results in today's ever-evolving business landscape. Prepare to be inspired as we delve into the power of self-awareness, mindset transformation, and the profound impact they can have on your entrepreneurial journey. Tune in to gain invaluable insights and unlock new possibilities for your success. Don't miss this dynamic episode filled with actionable strategies and empowering wisdom. Get ready to supercharge your sales and leadership skills with Adam Outland!

Jun 28, 202321 min

Ep 433The Amazon Way, with John Rossman (Customer Service, Vision, Leadership, Business)

Business strategist, leadership expert, and former Amazon executive John Rossman explains some of the principles essential to how Amazon became the consumer and media giant they are today, including customer obsession, keeping a broad vision, keeping an eye on OKR's (objectives and key results), setting the right incentives to create movement, making sure leaders are never done learning, and always taking the next best available action.Mentioned in this episode:This episode is presented by Dr. Marc Sniukas at MakeBetterStrategy.comMake Better StrategyDownload John’s free Business Manifesto and learn more at RossmanPartners.com.Rossman Partners / John RossmanThis episode is presented by Dr. Marc Sniukas at MakeBetterStrategy.comMake Better StrategyDownload John’s free Business Manifesto and learn more at RossmanPartners.com.Rossman Partners / John Rossman

Jun 27, 202325 min

Update: Mike McFall Goes From Chaos to Calm (Entrepreneurship, Leadership, Career, Employment, Coffee)

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We catch back up with Mike McFall, author, entrepreneur, and Co-CEO of Biggby Coffee, who walks us through his new book, "Grow: Take Your Business from Chaos to Calm", explains how the best-run business is one you're not a part of, hips us to the "most powerful productivity hack in corporate America since the microprocessor", and teases the conclusion of his leadership trilogy. Hear more from Mike in his original appearance on Episode 406 of The Action Catalyst.

Jun 23, 20239 min

CLIP: Fine, I'll Do It Myself

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Author, professional speaker, and executive coach Chad E. Foster talks about learning to code, blind, just to invent the software needed, by himself, for the rest of his job, in order to become an asset to the workforce instead of a liability.Hear Chad’s full interview in Episode 430 of The Action Catalyst.

Jun 22, 20233 min

Ep 432Growing Old, Staying Rad, with Steven Kotler (Neuroscience, Aging, Mindset, Change)

Steven Kotler, New York Times bestselling author, award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective, returns in Part 2 of this interview, tackling weighty topics like the denial of death, embracing change as foundational to aging, the illusion of self, the "long slow rot" theory, how aging is a "use it or lose it" game, how Freud kicked off 90 years of scientific tail-chasing, wisdom vs. expertise, and why guest host Stephanie Maas may just live forever.

Jun 20, 202312 min

Ep 431The Era of Impossible, with Steven Kotler (Neuroscience, Productivity, Biology, Flow)

Steven Kotler, New York Times bestselling author, award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective, explains the mechanics of getting our biology to work for us rather than against us, the advantages of transitioning from a journalist to a scientist, how to trigger a state of flow, how cell phones are dumbing down our neurobiology, how to be 1,000% more productive in 2 days, why “flow” is not just for athletes and artists, the most common flow state on earth that every one of us has experienced every week, what Buddhists, nuns, and surfers have in common, why struggle and frustration are necessary to achieve flow and extraordinary = average + repetition, and finding moments where the impossible become possible.

Jun 20, 202328 min

CLIP: Perfect Practice Makes Perfect

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Andrus Albi, Sales Practitioner, Certified Sales & Leadership Coach, and Partner at Southwestern Consulting, explains the relief that comes with identifying factors that are not under your control vs. those that are, and how it applies to everything from motocross, to marriage, to sales.Hear Andrus' full interview in Episode 429 of The Action Catalyst.

Jun 15, 20232 min

Ep 430Blind Ambition, with Chad E. Foster (Overcoming Adversity, Software, Business, Mindset)

Author, professional speaker, and executive coach Chad E. Foster talks about living most of his life outside of his comfort zone after totally losing his sight in college, becoming comfortable with discomfort, how lacking sight made him a better skier and martial artist, taking advantage of your disadvantages, learning to code just to INVENT the software needed for the rest of his job, becoming the first blind graduate of the Harvard Business School Leadership Program, and finding your "true north".

Jun 13, 202325 min

CLIP: "No" = "Not Yet"

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Dr. Ruth Gotian, educator, speaker, and author of the book "The Success Factor", explains the revelation that led her into the field of researching extreme achievers, and recalls a fierce independent streak that began at the age of 10 during one day of recess, and carried through to the present day.Hear Dr. Gotian's full interview in Episode 428 of The Action Catalyst.

Jun 8, 20233 min

Overtime with Outland: Andrus Albi, Episode 429

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Overtime with Outland is Action Catalyst host Adam Outland's reflections and commentary on discussions with each of his esteemed and accomplished guests. In this segment, Adam dissects Episode 429, with Sales Practitioner, Certified Sales & Leadership Coach, and Partner at Southwestern Consulting, Andrus Albi.

Jun 7, 20230 min

Ep 429The Fundamentals of Focus, with Andrus Albi (Sales, Leadership, Estonia, Time Management)

Andrus Albi, Sales Practitioner, Certified Sales & Leadership Coach, and Partner at Southwestern Consulting provides a masterclass on maintaining focus, including the relief that comes with identifying factors that are not under your control, prioritizing items in your calendar, being responsive versus reactive, creating "should do" and "MUST do" items, how the same advice applies to motocross, marriage, and sales, and why "practice doesn’t make perfect, PERFECT practice makes perfect".Mentioned in this episode:This episode is brought to you by Southwestern Coaching.Southwestern CoachingLearn more at SouthwesternConsulting.com/Coaching/StudentsSouthwestern Student Coaching

Jun 6, 202319 min

CLIP: Immigrant Motivation and the Trap of Success

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Candice Faktor, CEO and Co-Founder of virtual online learning startup Disco, and a serial tech entrepreneur, talks about possessing the unique motivational drive of an immigrant, and how if we’re not careful, we can waste incredible time and energy conforming to someone else’s idea of success.Hear Candice’s full interview in Episode 427 of The Action Catalyst.

Jun 1, 20232 min

Ep 428The Success Factor, with Dr. Ruth Gotian (Psychology, Learning, Networking, Motivation)

Dr. Ruth Gotian, educator, speaker, and author of the book "The Success Factor", shares the striking similarities between herself and the original Dr. Ruth, recalls a fierce independent streak that began at the age of 10, and explains peak vs passive tasks, informal learning and virtual work's effect on it, the 4 researched mindsets that make create success in any field, why habits are NOT what leads to success, why Apolo Ohno feels like a colleague, how to play the game of high profile networking, defining and harnessing the power of "flow", why often "no" just means "not yet", and why she begs you to PLEASE not ask someone to be your mentor.

May 30, 202326 min

CLIP: Always Be Growing, Always Be Learning

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Tommy Doerfler, CPA, CFP®, CEPA®, explains the merits of being a follower before a leader, finding the right mentor, and never losing your childhood curiosity.Hear Tommy's full interview in his special bonus episode of The Action Catalyst.

May 26, 20233 min

Live Life Forwards, Understand It Backwards, with Tommy Doerfler (Finances, Leadership, Music, Mindset)

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Guest host Stephanie Maas has felt like a bad sister lately, so she places a call via The Action Catalyst to her brother, Tommy Doerfler, CPA, CFP®, CEPA®, who reminisces about going from a college dropout, to a drummer touring the country in a van, to geeking out over numbers, breaking his body in endurance challenges, living up to your own belief system, the merits of conversation vs communication, and never losing your childhood curiosity.Mentioned in this episode:This episode is presented by Lighthouse Wealth Group. *Investment advisory services offered through SageSpring Wealth Partners, an independent registered investment adviser. SageSpring Wealth Partners and Lighthouse Wealth Group are not registered broker dealers are independent of Raymond James Financial Services. Securities offered through Raymond James Financial Services, Inc., member FINRA/SIPC. Representatives may not be registered to offer securities and advisory services in all states. *Any opinions are those of The Action Catalyst and not necessarily those of Raymond James. Expressions of opinion are as of this date and are subject to change without notice. Investing involves risk and you may incur a profit or loss regardless of strategy selected. Registered branch address / phone number: 801 Crescent Centre Drive Suite 600 Franklin, TN 37067 615-861-6103Lighthouse Wealth GroupThis episode is presented by Lighthouse Wealth Group. *Investment advisory services offered through SageSpring Wealth Partners, an independent registered investment adviser. SageSpring Wealth Partners and Lighthouse Wealth Group are not registered broker dealers are independent of Raymond James Financial Services. Securities offered through Raymond James Financial Services, Inc., member FINRA/SIPC. Representatives may not be registered to offer securities and advisory services in all states. *Any opinions are those of The Action Catalyst and not necessarily those of Raymond James. Expressions of opinion are as of this date and are subject to change without notice. Investing involves risk and you may incur a profit or loss regardless of strategy selected. Registered branch address / phone number: 801 Crescent Centre Drive Suite 600 Franklin, TN 37067 615-861-6103Lighthouse Wealth Group

May 24, 202325 min

Ep 427Catching Disco Fever, with Candice Faktor (Learning, Tech, Entrepreneurship, Self Care)

Candice Faktor, CEO and Co-Founder of virtual online learning startup Disco, and a serial tech entrepreneur, explains going from a victim to the agent of our lives, possessing the unique motivational drive of an immigrant, learning to be calm and creating a sense of self, why the pandemic was the single best time in the world to start a company, and how to build your own "live learning empire".

May 23, 202328 min

CLIP: Don't Start a Bank in Elementary School

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Accomplished C-Suite leader and author Atif Rafiq reflects on starting a bank in elementary school (spoiler, it didn't quite work), and the impressive path that led him to becoming the first Chief Digital Officer in the history of the Fortune 500.Hear Atif's full interview in Episode 426 of The Action Catalyst.

May 18, 20233 min