Stoa Conversations: Stoicism Applied

The Stoics promoted the four cardinal virtues: courage, moderation, justice, and wisdom. In this episode, we talk about Stoic courage. Caleb and Michael discuss what it is and how the Stoics broke it down into different subdisciplines.Their breakdown still provides an effective framework for building the skill of bravery today.(01:03) What Is Courage?(10:19) Aristotle(14:14) The Subcomponents Of Courage(15:36) Endurance(19:03) Confidence(21:23) Greatness Of Soul(27:34) Vitality(33:54) Love Of Work(39:07) Not Just Overcoming Fear(40:59) Seneca Motivation(46:18) Summary***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Do you want to learn how to Journal like Marcus Aurelius?Parker Settecase explains different approaches to journaling, writing, and recording your thoughts. He and Michael take a deep dive into how and why to think about journaling.Use these strategies to organize your thinking, and be the best version of yourself.Park NotesMichael and Parker on Parker's Pensées(01:32) Journaling As A Philosophical Practice(18:24) Transformative Journaling(22:32) Self-Dialogue(31:44) Why You Need A Catch All(34:32) Journaling To Be Present(38:09) Diary Vs Journal(44:35) Marcus Aurelius Had A Journal Not A Diary(45:45) Commonplace Book Vs Compendium(57:17) Recommendations(59:18) Michael Pushes Back(01:02:08) Creation Over Consumption(01:08:40) Nature Log(01:12:02) Learn More***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

"The thought for today is one which I discovered in Epicurus; for I am wont to cross over even into the enemy's camp, – not as a deserter, but as a scout."In this conversation, Caleb and Michael talk about lessons from Epicureanism. To do this, use Seneca’s quotations of Epicurus and other Epicureans as a source. The Epicurean tradition has a lot of wisdom about how to relate to wealth, master desire, and study philosophy.(00:26) Introduction(02:38) What Epicureanism Is(07:54) The Enemy's Camp(17:37) Philosophy Matters(22:18) Urgency(26:10) Money Money Money(32:01) Desire(38:06) Drugs(40:05) Friendship(49:24) Summarize***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Why did talking about virtue fall out of fashion – and why is it coming back now?In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Judith Stove about that very question, providence, and Marcus Aurelius as God.Judith Stove is a Sydney, Australia, researcher and writer, focusing on Jane Austen and her reception, as well as on Stoicism and other classical virtue ethics.  Along with Simon J.E. Drew, she co-hosts the podcast 'Soul Searching With Seneca' at The Walled Garden philosophical community. She is currently assistant editor of the online journal 'Stoicism Today.' Judith is part of the organising team for Stoicon-X Melbourne, which is preparing its fourth in-person event in October 2024. Having published two books on Jane Austen's life and times, she is working on her third, about the legacies of Marcus Aurelius, to appear in 2025.This is How We Become Godlike: Marcus Aurelius and His Monuments(00:57) What is Stoicism?(04:21) Community(09:49) Finding Stoicism(18:34) Where Did Virtue Go?(30:09) Providence(41:20) Does Caleb Believe In The Stoic God?(46:15) Marcus Aurelius As God(54:46) Resources

The ancients talked about Nature, Reason, Zeus, and God – but what did they mean by it?In this conversation, Michael tells us who or what the Stoic God is.We’re here to tell you – and share how the Stoic’s beliefs about God influenced their practice and picture of Stoicism.(00:58) Why The Stoic God Matters(03:21) The Agenda(05:40) Stoic Physics(08:29) Is This Like Aristotle?(14:13) God Is Fire(23:35) The Forms of God(28:53) God Is Everything(31:52) The Divine In Us(37:15) Reason(38:31) The Cyclic Universe(45:36) The Problem Of Evil(54:18) Living In Accordance With Nature(56:25) Summary***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

The philosopher and the general. Stoic philosophy in ancient Roman history.In this podcast, Caleb speaks with Alex Petkas about Pompey and Posidonius – the great Roman general and his Stoic mentor.Both of their lives were epic in the greatest sense. They carry lessons for applying Stoic emotion management, cosmopolitanism, and, even, inquiry into the natural world.https://costofglory.com/(01:27) Seneca on Posidonius(03:28) The World of Posidonius(12:35) The Roman Civil War(15:59) Pompey Meets Posidonius(19:08) Stoic Cosmopolitanism in Action(26:12) Paying Respects to the Philosopher(31:04) The Rest of Pompey's Story(32:14) Pompey's Stoic and Non-Stoic Attributes(43:48) Posidonius on the Divine(53:06) Fate Willing***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“Show me a man who is not a slave; one is a slave to lust, another to greed, another to ambition.”– Seneca In this conversation, Michael and Caleb discuss how Stoics think about ambition. What does healthy ambition look like? The unhealthy kind? How do you navigate between the two? Caleb and Michael talk through the Stoic tradition’s answers to these questions.***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this Stoa Conversation, Michael Tremblay speaks to Brian Johnson about Stoic roles ethics, methods of teaching, and how martial arts.The start with the question: does martial arts improve character? What about other forms of physical training?They then move to Stoic Role Ethics, especially the role ethics of Epictetus.The Role Ethics of Epictetus***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

What advice do the Stoics have for managing social anxiety?In this conversation, Caleb Ontiveros and Michael Tremblay talk about Epictetus on anxiety – and how his advice for dissolving anxiety can be applied to social situations.(03:29) Epictetus On Anxiety(13:13) You Will Not Have Anxiety If You Do This(23:42) Learning From Experience(26:36) Epictetus On How To Make It Happen(34:40) Why Is It Weird To Treat Social Skills Like A Craft?(38:34) Focus On What Is Up To You(47:14) Summarizing Epictetus On Anxiety(48:22) Epictetus's Two Handles(51:35) Learning From Negative Feelings***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

How should modern Stoics understand the relationship between the mind and the body?In this conversation, Caleb Ontiveros and Marcus Hedahl discuss Stoicism and the mind-body connection. They walk through issues of theory and practice that the tight bond between our minds and bodies brings up.This episode has both significant practical upshots and takes a few detours into theory on the way. Let us know what you think.(04:18) The Body Influences the Mind(11:23) Your Body Is Not Up to You(13:33) Independence(36:21) There's No Separation(46:04) Getting Theoretical About Lekta***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“Although we don’t often recognise it, the 21st century is a transhuman era, where everything that currently makes us human, from our brains and bodies, to our values and ways of life, is poised to be transformed or superseded.”In this episode, Caleb and Michael consider a contemporary philosophical issue through the lens of Stoicism.Transhumanism is the idea that humans should use technology to radically enhance human capabilities, lifespan, and experience. So, what do Stoics have to say about it?Caleb argues that they should be largely in favor of it – with some serious qualifications.Classical Transhumanism, essay from CalebFuture Superhuman by Elise Bohan(02:12) Future Superhuman(12:54) Objections to Transhumanism(19:35) Human Nature And Stoicism(32:22) Warning From The Stoics(38:53) Moderation Is A Virtue(40:01) Transcendence***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Donald Robertson about Marcus Aurelius. They dive into what we know about the man and the critical episodes of his life. Donald shares his thoughts on the Marcomannic wars, whether Marcus Aurelius ordered the assassination of one of his top generals, and why he appointed Commodus as his successor. They end by discussing the central role that Stoicism and Stoic practices played in Marcus Aurelius’s life.Marcus Aurelius: The Stoic EmperorHow To Think Like A Roman EmperorDonald Robertson’s Substack(00:45) Changing Mind(07:29) Commodus / Different Views of History(16:58) Marcomannic Wars(33:42) What Marcus Aurelius Didn't Say(40:50) Stoicism in Marcus Aurelius's Life(49:41) Avidius Cassius(01:01:18) Marcus Aurelius and Stoic Practices***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“Everything has two handles, and it may be carried by one of these handles, but not by the other.”In this conversation, Caleb and Michael talk about these lines from Epictetus.They talk about how it points the way towards Stoic creativity, offensive and defensive Stoicism ,and role ethics. It’s a simple passage with a lot of depth.(00:31) Epictetus(05:05) Creativity in Stoicism(12:31) Stop Shutting Down(20:56) A Better Interpretation(33:54) Marcus Aurelius(44:00) The Handbook***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this podcast, Caleb speaks with professor Rob Colter.Rob has extensive experience teaching Stoicism in camps, universities, and prisons.He talks about the powerful idea of Stoic freedom, how he’s seen Stoicism make a difference in people’s lives, and why he calls himself a Socratic.Learn more about Wyoming Stoic Camp here.(00:51) Stoicism(03:49) Rationality(09:10) The Central Idea: Freedom(21:34) Teaching Stoicism(27:06) How Stoicism Changes Lives(33:32) Role Ethics(35:28) Underrated Stoic Ideas***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“A Stoic is a Buddhist with attitude” How do you not just survive in chaos, but benefit from it?In this podcast, Caleb and Michael review Nassim Taleb’s book “Antifragile.” In it, Taleb describes a Stoic philosophy grounded in the realities of randomness and practice.They talk about how ideas from this book have impacted them – and the questions of theory and practice that remain.(06:43) Antifragility(25:55) The Barbell Strategy(37:22) Skin In The Game(45:40) Stoic Skin In The Game(47:04) How Stoic Is This Book?(53:23) Different Kinds Of Lives(01:01:41) The Greek vs Roman Stoics(01:06:47) The Philosopher King***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Who were the Cynics and why did the Stoics treat them as exemplars?  In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Dr. M. D. Usher about the ancient philosophy of Cynicism, its training program, and way of life.How to Say No(00:47) Farming(02:21) What Is Cynicism(06:56) Outsiders(10:39) Living In Accordance With Nature(15:15) Storytime(23:18) Training Program(32:39) Socrates(38:38) Modern Cynics(45:12) Returning to Stoicism and Cynicism(48:19) Lazy Stoics***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Time for another Stoic movie review.  This week Caleb and Michael talk 300. They cover the good, bad, and and provocative aspects of the film on the Spartan’s epic last stand at Thermopylae.Gladiator(02:29) The Movie(06:58) Spartan Stoic Virtues(08:36) Powers Of Perception(15:00) Action Over Words(19:48) What Winning Means(24:26) Spartan Propaganda(29:46) Sparta Was Not Stoic(41:31) Steelmanning The Silver People(47:25) King and Queen(51:58) Summary***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

This one is for all of you interested in Stoic theory.In this conversation, Caleb and Scott Aikin discuss objections to Stoicism. Scott defends a revisionary kind of Stoicism. In some places, Caleb questions how revisionary it is – is Scott just restating things the ancients solved already? In other places, Caleb questions whether it’s too revisionary to work – do we need an account of nature after all? Scott responds. Listen and work through the problems yourself.Epictetus’s 'Encheiridion': A New Translation and Guide to Stoic EthicsEarlier Stoa Conversation on Why What You Think Is Up To YouCaleb and Michael discuss The Impossibility ObjectionScott Aikin on We Are The Stoics Now(04:44) Fatalism(12:29) Dichotomy of Control(18:45) Where Your Control Lies(20:04) Skepticism(22:28) Determinism(31:30) How You Revisionary Is Scott?(34:38) The Ruin Problem***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Caleb and Michael discuss an objection to Stoicism: the impossibility objection. Along the way, they talk about the challenge of living by Stoic principles, especially in extreme situations, and whether achieving the ideal Stoic sage is possible.03:26 The Argument14:47 Why It Matters17:06 Stoicism Doesn't Require Unrealistic Control27:15 Forceful Impressions35:44 Can We All Be Sages?44:54 Can Anyone Be A Sage?50:10 Wrapping Up***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

How can you use Stoicism to cultivate compassion and build deeper connections?Brittany Polat joins Caleb to talk about the themes from her new set of meditations: Deeper Connections. They discuss the meaning of Stoic compassion and what becoming more compassionate looks like in theory and practice.Deeper ConnectionsJournal Like A Stoichttps://stoicismforhumans.substack.com/(01:11) Stoic Compassion(11:11) Becoming More Compassionate(19:43) Abundance Mindset(25:58) Friendship(29:15) Forgiving Others(36:28) Forgiving Oneself(43:12) Practice And Meditation***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Caleb and Michael talk about Seneca’s 94th Letter to Lucilius. In it Seneca debates the place of rules in the philosophical life with the ancient Stoic Aristo.It's a topic of theoretical and practical importance. How do you use rules, proverbs, and precepts well when they are such imperfect tools? What's the difference between rules and principles? (02:39) The Debate Over Rules(16:19) Aristo(21:40) Memorizing Philosophy Does Not Work(26:02) Rules Are Either Obvious Or Misunderstood(31:02) Summarizing Aristo(32:53) Seneca's Response(45:20) The Point of Rules(49:54) Are Rules Specific Enough?(52:38) How To Use Rules***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this conversation, Michael Tremblay and Erlend MacGillivray take a deep dive into Stoic history and the life of Epictetus.It’s an excellent discussion for anyone looking to enrich their knowledge of ancient history and situate the Stoics in their time.https://schoolofepictetus.substack.com/(01:20) Getting Into Stoicism(05:33) Epictetus(10:26) Epictetus's World(13:34) Philosophy in Rome(20:51) Epictetus's Students(45:40) Stoics and Lay People(01:03:30) Popularization vs Elitism(01:10:08) What's Next***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this conversation, Caleb and Michael talk Socrates. Why was he held in such high regard by the Stoics? What’s the line of philosophical theory and practice connecting Stoicism to Socrates? And how did Socrates philosophy differ from the Stoics?(03:52) Who Was Socrates?(07:07) Philosophy As A Way Off Life(14:48) The Socratic Method(20:49) Virtue Is Knowledge(26:15) Self-knowledge(33:40) The Importance Of Character(43:19) Differences(49:14) Philosophy With Socrates***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this conversation, Caleb speaks with William O Stephens about his 6 core themes of Stoicism.Epictetus’s 'Encheiridion': A New Translation and Guide to Stoic Ethicshttps://williamostephens.com/(04:12) Self-Control(09:31) Seeing Things As They Are(14:34) Living In Accordance With Nature(22:12) Role Ethics(35:57) Virtue Depends On Knowledge(42:59) Stoicism Is Aspirational***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Register for a free workshop January 3rd: stoameditation.com/workshopJoin our live course – starting next week: stoameditation.com/courseHappy new year! Thanks for listening to Stoa Conversations. In this one, Caleb and Michael discuss their highlights from 2023 – one year of podcasting in public. Relive your favorite philosophical moments with them as they share the key insights from the year and shoutout guests.And let us know what you think at stoameditation.com/survey.(01:31) Stoic Psychology(06:20) Stoicism Is Deep(09:08) Thinking, Fast And Slow(13:45) Voluntary Suffering(22:17) Anger Sucks(27:26) The Stoic God(32:01) Randolph Nesse(36:04) Julia Galef(40:22) Chris Gill(45:25) Greg Sadler(48:09) Dana Gioia(51:06) What's Next For Stoa Conversations***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

(00:11) Scott Aikin(03:35) Massimo Pigliucci(05:08) Donald Robertson(07:09) Brittany Polat(10:29) Tim Lebon(14:34) Chris Gill***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Register for a free workshop January 3rd: stoameditation.com/workshopAre New Year’s resolutions Stoic?Caleb and Michael talk about the Stoic cases for and against the practice. Then they move to what we can learn from the Stoics about setting resolutions well.(01:41) Against Resolutions(09:44) The Case For Resolutions(18:47) Making New Year’s Resolutions Well(24:14) Getting Concrete(26:55) Realistic and Ambitious(33:14) Stoic Principles(37:25) Michael's Planning(40:09) Caleb Is Too Impulsive(45:50) Summary(49:54) Stoicism Applied***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Aiste Celkyte about the Stoic theory of beauty. They cover what the Stoics saw as beautiful, how their aesthetics expresses their ethics, and the practical application of this neglected topic.Aiste Celkyte is a professor at the university of Leiden and author of The Stoic Theory of Beauty.(00:57) What Is Beautiful For The Stoics?(06:51) Ancient Sources(09:55) What Makes Stoicism Different(18:18) Beauty And Morality(28:00) Practical Application(30:43) Convential Beautfy(39:24) Moral Responsibility(43:33) The Most Important Insight***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Start the year with others looking to apply Stoicism to our life. Join our 3-week intensive course: https://stoameditation.com/courseThe Stoics are always reminding us to improve ourselves now. But how do you actually do that? What advice do they have for us? Caleb and Michael discuss a simple 3 step approach to procrastination we can glean from the ancient Roman Stoics.(03:33) The Stoic Solution to Procrastination (08:42) Marcus Aurelius on Procrastination(12:16) Putting Off Writing(15:01) Directness(28:28) Motivating Yourself With Philosophy(36:39) The Virtues(39:24) Trust(46:09) Putting It All Together***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Rob LaFleur, Professor of Anthropology & History at Beloit College and teacher of The Great Courses Books That Matter: The Analects of Confucius.Stoics care about virtue and role ethics – two things central to Confucianism. Understanding the similarities and differences between the two philosophies can only enrich one’s philosophical theory and practice.But going directly to the Confucian works is difficult. Conversations with experts like Professor LaFleur then are essential.https://www.beloit.edu/live/profiles/270-robert-lafleur(07:47) Understanding The Analects(14:19) Reading Passages From The Analects(21:32) Virtue Ethics(28:34) Relationships(36:34) Hierarchy(44:42) Filial Piety(50:18) Grieving***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Caleb and Michael debate the role of politics in the modern Stoic life. Caleb argues that Stoics should stay away from politics – like the Epicureanism. Michael thinks this couldn’t be any more wrong. Heated, if Stoic, debated ensues.(05:18) Arguments Against Politics(25:49) The Wisdom of Epicurus(33:52) Justice Without Politics(37:57) The Stoic Case for Politics(51:33) The Norms for Engaging Well***Learn more about our new year’s course: stoameditation.com/courseSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this episode, Caleb speaks with Mahmoud Rasmi, a former philosophy professor from Lebanon, on philosophy, business, and the importance of asking questions well.Philosophy for Business Leaders: https://amzn.to/3NeQ7gihttps://twitter.com/Decafquest(03:04) Getting Into Philosophy(12:26) Losing Your Business(14:11) Philosophy vs Critical Thinking(25:23) Are Philosophers The Best Thinkers?(32:09) Getting Down to Business(38:46) Asking Questions(48:49) Leaving Academic Philosophy(54:44) Shifting Perspective(58:22) Stoa***Register for our freeworkshop: stoameditation.com/workshopSubscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Caleb and Michael engage in a discussion on Existentialism, explaining its essence, distinguishing it from Stoicism, and extracting valuable insights.Michael underscores the significance of authenticity, while Caleb highlights the ideas of bad faith and radical freedom.(02:20) Existentialism(18:20) Stoicism vs Existentialism(32:17) Existentialism for Stoics***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

For episode 100, Caleb and Michael discuss Marcus Aurelius’s Meditations 2.1.Thank you for listening. Send us a note at [email protected] if you ever have any comments, questions, or requests.(03:01) Reading 2.1(04:32) Praemediatio Malorum(09:44) Dealing With Others(17:15) Seeing Goodness(24:46) No One Can Harm Us(27:15) Overcoming Anger(36:16) Working With Others(41:44) The Obstacle is the Way(44:40) Summary(47:14) One Hundred Episodes***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Caleb and Michael talk about forgiveness and clemency. How does the Stoic idea of forgiveness differ from the popular account – and when should we pardon other’s wrongdoing or address it head on?(01:16) What Is Forgiveness?(15:59) The Stoic Account(25:00) Forgive Everyone At Once(28:18) Clemency(35:10) Is Clemency Only A Tool For The Strong?(45:07) Challenges***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Caleb speaks with Jennifer Baker about teaching Stoicism and its application to modern day life. Along the way they discuss Aristotle, business ethics, the meaning of living in accordance with nature, and natural vs actual virtue.https://philosophy.cofc.edu/faculty-staff-listing/baker-jennifer.php(00:40) Teaching Stoicism In Academia(04:22) Aristotle(12:26) Natural Virtue vs Actual Virtue(17:40) Stoics In The Economy(30:25) Stoic Answer To Happiness(36:54) Why Aren't We Happy Already?***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Caleb and Michael discuss the Stoics strategy for setting boundaries.Learn about the issues many Stoic practitioners face with boundaries and how Epictetus counsels us to live better.(02:59) What Are Boundaries?(06:13) The Challenge for Stoics(19:58) Defining and Enforcing Boundaries(30:46) Everything Is A Scam(38:33) Enforce Boundaries For The Right Reason***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“Stoicism is not so much an ethic as it is a paradoxical recipe for happiness.”Caleb speaks with Allan from What Is Stoicism about the practice of Stoicism as a philosophy of daily life.They discuss how they think about Stoicism, the work of Pierre Hadot, underrated ideas in Stoicism, and their Stoic practices.https://whatisstoicism.substack.com/https://whatisstoicism.com/what-is-stoicism/(00:33) Allan's Story(04:59) What Is Stoicism?(10:54) An Underrated Stoic Idea(18:18) Stoic Exercises(28:06) Widening The Domain of Being(31:48) Philosophy As Gardening(35:10) Refined Selfishness(39:55) Stoic Meditation***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“Shadows and dust”Caleb and Michael talk about the philosophical themes in the epic movie “Gladiator.” It's the very first Stoa film review.(00:39) Introduction(07:26) Movie Review(09:32) Commodus as Anti-Model(13:57) Is Maximus Stoic?(17:03) Marcus Aurelius in Gladiator(19:50) Maximus is a Stoic Hero(23:28) The Afterlife(29:11) Proximo(34:37) Gladiatorial Games(37:19) Masculinity and Role Ethics(48:26) Restoring the Republic***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Why does Musonius Rufus lecture on food and men’s fashion?Caleb talks to William O Stephens to find out. Learn how the Stoics thought about ordinary issues of life in order to live extraordinarily well.https://williamostephens.com/(01:11) Musonius Rufus and Epictetus(09:09) Why Care About Food and Fashion?(13:42) Food(23:16) Optimizing Health(29:58) The Social Dimension(36:14) Beards(45:17) What is Natural?(52:42) Epictetus on Beards***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

"Nothing has happened which was not going to be, and likewise nothing is going to be of which nature does not contain causes working to bring that very thing about."The Stoics believed that we were responsible for our actions and that every action was fated.In this conversation, Michael explains how they made sense of those two ideas.We cover determinism, freewill, and moral responsibility in Stoicism.(00:54) Introduction(04:41) The Lazy Argument(07:03) Stoic Physics (15:56) The Argument for Causal Determinism(25:10) Moral Responsibility (35:33) Free Will(44:29) Objections***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Jeremy Reid. Jeremy is an Assistant Professor in Philosophy at San Francisco State University. They talk about anger and forgiveness, using his excellent paper “Stoic Forgiveness” as a launching off point.This is an excellent conversation for understanding the Stoic view of anger and enriching it with their practical and compassionate take on forgiveness. Highly recommended.https://jeremywreid.weebly.com/(00:30) Stoics on Anger(11:13) Why Do We Get Angry?(15:47) Responding to Wrongdoing(26:24) Forgiveness(35:08) Forgiving Everyone at Once(37:36) Self-Forgiveness(40:48) Flexibility(43:15) Children Healing Children(47:59) Intuitive Stoicism(50:56) Other People's Anger(54:38) Becoming Less Angry(01:00:26) Compassion in Stoicism***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“And what are we by nature? We are free, honorable, and self-respecting. After all, does any other animal blush or feel shame?” The fear of social disgrace, shame, can prevent us from living well. Yet, the Stoics argued that there’s a related emotion, a kind of self-respect, that can help us live more freely. In this conversation, Caleb and Michael discuss both.(00:06) Introduction(04:48) Shame as a Passion(15:47) Positive Shame?(17:19) The Role of Our Self-Image(25:40) Everyone's Guardian Spirit(32:07) The Hidden Philosopher(34:28) Halftime Summary(37:55) Challenges(40:20) Shame for the Past(45:04) Self-respect***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

“This day will end like all others.”“And after that?”In this conversation, Caleb speaks with Zena Hitz about her recent book “A philosopher looks at the religious life.” They discuss meaning, Christianity, and Stoicism.https://catherineproject.org/(01:10) Wholeheartedness(06:59) Meaning(14:18) Abandonment(17:45) Devotion and Role Ethics(30:08) Service and Happiness(40:32) Freedom(44:33) Nietzsche***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Want to become more Stoic? Join us and other Stoics this October: Stoicism Applied by Caleb Ontiveros and Michael“It’s worse to be the thief, than the person who has their things stolen from them”In this conversation, Michael and Caleb talk about how Stoics think about anger, revenge, and justice.They cover common philosophical views of punishment – and note where the Stoics would disagree. This topic is important in many areas of our lives. It's about how we handle situations when someone has treated us badly, how we think about guilt, and how we can build just communities.(00:35) Introduction(06:55) Common Accounts of Punishment(15:51) Stoicism and Anger(25:47) Epictetus on Punishment (32:26) Responding as a Stoic(33:56) The Stoic Review of Everyone Else's Take on Punishment ***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Want to become more Stoic? Join us and other Stoics this October: Stoicism Applied by Caleb Ontiveros and MichaelCaleb Ontiveros speaks with Dr. Steven C. Hayes, the originator of acceptance commitment therapy.Acceptance commitment therapy deeply influenced our programs at Stoa, so this discussion was an honor.In this wide ranging conversation, we cover how Steven thinks about “negative emotions” and cultivating wisdom in our technological age.A Liberated Mind(00:58) Introduction(04:51) What's Bad About Bad Emotions?(16:31) Ancient Wisdom Traditions(25:39) Anxiety & Meaning(32:13) Living With Emotions(34:50) Death & Love(39:38) Getting Better With Technology(45:55) Wisdom(50:29) The Dangers of Choosing Virtue For Others

Want to become more Stoic? Join us and other Stoics this October: Stoicism Applied by Caleb Ontiveros and MichaelIn this conversation, Caleb and Michael discuss the discipline of action. (02:30) Introduction(03:51) The Discipline of Action(08:16) Indifferents(12:59) Acceptance and Justice(19:54) The Seriousness of Action(27:05) The Sage(30:01) Choosing Between Indifferents(31:52) Reserve Clause(42:37) Praemeditatio Malorum(46:13) Clarify Your Roles(49:21) Challenges(56:09) Managing Desire***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Want to become more Stoic? Join us and other Stoics this October: Stoicism Applied by Caleb Ontiveros and MichaelIn this conversation, I speak with Noah Rasheta about Buddhism.We talk about the key tenets of Buddhism, meditation, and even who shouldn’t be Buddhist. Noah has a clear and focused approach to Buddhism that I think you’ll find useful – whether or not you’re familiar with the philosophy.https://secularbuddhism.com/(01:56) Introduction(03:56) Becoming Buddhist(05:19) Why Do We Suffer(09:11) Craving(13:16) Habitual Cycles(19:20) Meditation(24:33) Judgment(28:56) Interdependence and Impermanence(34:23) Identity(42:20) Who Shouldn't Be Buddhist(45:33) Role Models(47:26) Stoicism(48:57) Enlightenment(54:18) The Rabbit Hole***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Want to become more Stoic? Join us and other Stoics this October: Stoicism Applied by Caleb Ontiveros and Michael“Would you have a great empire? Rule over yourself”In this conversation, Michael and Caleb discuss the Stoic discipline of desire.(02:05) Introduction(10:41) Mastering Desire(13:21) Stoic Theory of Happiness(15:43) Beginner vs Advanced(19:00) Love for Universal Nature(21:00) Mindfulness(25:37) Reinterpretation(28:26) Amor Fati(31:15) Attention(38:35) Circumscribing the Present(44:42) Challenges(49:17) How Can You Love Fate?***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/

Want to become more Stoic? Join us and other Stoics this October: Stoicism Applied by Caleb Ontiveros and MichaelIn this conversation Caleb speaks with Alexandra Hudson, the founder of Civic Renaissance and author of The Soul of Civility. They discuss why politeness is overrated, the Stoic theory of political change, numerous contemporary and classical role models – intellectual and political theory, and what it means to be a good citizen in the modern age.Pre-order The Soul of Civility(03:04) Introduction(12:04) Civility as Aristotelian Mean(15:33) Politeness – Overrated?(21:47) Might Makes Right(26:08) The Immaterial vs Material World(30:11) Role Models(34:55) Politics as War(38:04) Porching***Subscribe to The Stoa Letter for weekly meditations, actions, and links to the best Stoic resources: www.stoaletter.com/subscribeDownload the Stoa app (it’s a free download): stoameditation.com/podIf you try the Stoa app and find it useful, but truly cannot afford it, email us and we'll set you up with a free account.Listen to more episodes and learn more here: https://stoameditation.com/blog/stoa-conversations/Thanks to Michael Levy for graciously letting us use his music in the conversations: https://ancientlyre.com/