
Show overview
So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast has been publishing since 2016, and across the 10 years since has built a catalogue of 290 episodes. That works out to roughly 300 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 50 min and 1h 10m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. It is catalogued as a EN-language News show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 4 days ago, with 26 episodes already out so far this year.
From the publisher
So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast takes an uncensored look at the world of free expression through the law, philosophy, and stories that define your right to free speech. Hosted by FIRE's Nico Perrino. New episodes post every other Thursday.
Latest Episodes
View all 290 episodesEp. 284: Venezuela is a cautionary tale w/ Jim Epstein and Germania Rodriguez Poleo
FIRE Reacts: Trump's media ban
Ep. 283: Robby Soave on Trump's press ban, Macklemore, and free speech culture wars
Ep. 282: Breaking down our 2027 College Free Speech Rankings
Ep. 281: What's the First Amendment's original meaning? w/ Jud Campbell and Stephen Solomon
Ep. 280: Social media, speech, and kids w/ Joel Thayer and Kate Ruane
Ep. 279: Legendary lawyer Michael Tigar on juries, free speech, and the trial of John Peter Zenger
Ep. 278: The Trump admin wants to change how scientific research is funded w/ Catharine Young, Evan Morris, and Ryne Weiss
Ep. 277: Ada Palmer on the history of censorship from the Renaissance to AI
Ep. 276: Book banning's trial of the century w/ Anthony Aycock
Ep. 275: Stress-testing the limits of the First Amendment w/ Chaz Stevens
Ep. 274: Financial censorship: how banks silence speech w/ Rainey Reitman
Ep. 273: Debating Super PACs and campaign finance w/ Larry Lessig and Paul Sherman
Ep. 272: FIRE Monthly Member Webinar - May 2026
Ep. 271: Minecraft, censorship, and threats to press freedom with Clayton Weimers
FIRE Reacts: Comey, Kimmel, ABC & the FCC
Ep. 270: The fight for privacy and free speech in the surveillance age
Ep. 269: Is free speech declining worldwide?
Ep. 268: News and misinformation in early America

Ep 267Ep. 267: Social media = cigarettes?
In March, juries in California and New Mexico delivered seminal verdicts holding Meta and YouTube liable for failing to protect young users from harm. Both verdicts found that the companies were negligent in the design or operation of their platforms and that each company knew their platforms could be dangerous when used by a minor. The courts found that the design elements of the platforms could be separated from the content hosted on the platforms, thus removing the need to consider the First Amendment or Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Joining us to break down the rulings and their possible free speech implications is Mike Masnick, CEO & founder of Techdirt & the Copia Institute. Masnick is the author of "Everyone Cheering The Social Media Addiction Verdicts Against Meta Should Understand What They're Actually Cheering For." Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:29 Why these verdicts scare the hell out of Mike 10:34 Are social media algorithms "addictive"? 21:45 Did Meta fail to protect kids? 30:37 The First Amendment and Section 230 43:13 Is social media the new Big Tobacco? 55:15 The role of parents in social media use 59:04: Outro Enjoy listening to the podcast? Donate to FIRE today and get exclusive content like member webinars, special episodes, and more. If you became a FIRE Member through a donation to FIRE at thefire.org and would like access to Substack's paid subscriber podcast feed, please email [email protected].