Real Investor Radio Podcast

In Episode 2 of 4kd.ai, Jack, Craig, and David dive into real-world applications of agentic AI and what it actually looks like to build with these tools day-to-day. From replacing legacy software with custom AI workflows, to building dispatch systems, scraping and analyzing market data, and even running deep investigative research, this episode is all about execution—not theory.They break down how they’re using tools like OpenClaw, MongoDB, and local models to automate workflows, reduce manual work, and uncover insights that would have taken hours (or days) before. Along the way, they also talk through what’s working, what’s not, and how they’re thinking about building scalable AI systems inside real businesses.

In this episode, Craig and Jack discuss the current state of the real estate market, mortgage rates, and the impact of geopolitical events like the Iran war on the economy. They analyze market trends across different regions, the influence of government policies, and share insights on pricing strategies for sellers and investors.

The debut episode of the 4kd.ai podcast features a deep dive into AI tools and their transformative impact on real estate and business operations. Craig, David, and Jack share their experiences building AI-driven workflows, automation, and innovative use cases that are reshaping industries.

In this episode, Craig and Jack BeVier discuss emerging opportunities in small to mid-size multifamily real estate, common underwriting mistakes, and how to accurately analyze pro formas for better investment decisions. They share practical tips on expense assumptions, vacancy rates, and the importance of realistic underwriting to avoid pitfalls.

This episode explores the latest developments in real estate legislation, focusing on the bipartisan 'Road to Housing' bill, and discusses its potential impact on investors and the housing market. Additionally, the hosts delve into the exciting possibilities of AI in business and real estate.

In this engaging conversation, Craig and Jack explore the implications of the Citrini Research report predicting a 2028 market crash, AI's impact on jobs, real estate, and the economy. They debate potential displacement, opportunities, and how future professionals can adapt to rapid technological change.

In Part Two, Aeron Alberti shares his perspectives on the current real estate market, strategies for navigating market corrections, and the importance of relationships and value creation in real estate investing.

Jack sits down with Aeron Alberti to break down how he built one of Maryland’s most efficient real estate operations — completing nearly 400 investor renovations per year while managing more than 200 field employees. Aaron shares how he started 20 years ago with just a paintbrush and $7,500, gradually compounding relationships, leadership, and operational discipline into a high-volume contracting and investing machine. He explains how his crew structure works, why retaining key team leaders for nearly two decades has been critical to scale, and how a costly multi-million dollar acquisition mistake forced him to reset and rebuild smarter. The conversation dives into what most contractors get wrong, why adding real value matters more than chasing margins, and how long-term relationships — not shortcuts — are the foundation of sustainable growth in real estate.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier engage with Odetta Cushi, the deputy chief economist at First American Financial, to discuss the current state and future outlook of the housing market. They explore various factors influencing the market, including economic trends, consumer spending, inflation, mortgage rates, and the impact of immigration. Odetta provides insights into the resilience of the U.S. consumer, the importance of equity levels, and the challenges faced by home builders. The conversation also touches on the myths surrounding the housing market and the potential effects of government policies on affordability. Overall, the discussion is cautiously optimistic about the housing market's trajectory in 2026, despite existing challenges.

In this episode, Craig and Jack dive into the world of OpenClaw, an open-source AI assistant that has gained significant attention for its capabilities. They discuss its functionality, potential applications in daily tasks, and the implications of using such technology in various fields, particularly real estate. The conversation also touches on security concerns, cost implications, and the importance of adapting to new tools in a rapidly evolving technological landscape.

In this conversation, Craig and Jack discuss the intricacies of DSCR loans, the challenges faced by investors, and the innovative solutions being implemented at Dominion to streamline the loan process. They highlight the importance of cash flow in real estate investing and how AI technology is transforming underwriting and customer experience, ultimately leading to faster loan closures.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the emerging trends in real estate for 2026, focusing on the small multifamily sector. They explore the current market dynamics, underwriting challenges, and common mistakes investors make, particularly regarding expense ratios. The conversation also delves into the risks associated with developing properties in transitional neighborhoods and the importance of effective project management. Additionally, they share insights on financing strategies for large-scale projects and lessons learned from their multifamily investments.

In this Mini Breakdown, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the current state of the real estate market and predictions for 2026. They explore the sentiment among investors, the impact of interest rates, and the dynamics of seller capitulation. The conversation also delves into the rental market outlook and strategies for investors to navigate the changing landscape.

In this Mini Breakdown, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier explore two major forces shaping today’s market: housing policy and artificial intelligence. They discuss President Donald Trump’s call to limit institutional ownership of single-family homes, with Craig raising concerns about long-term affordability impacts and Jack framing the proposal as largely political theater, noting that institutional buyers are currently sidelined by unfavorable financing conditions. The conversation then shifts to the rapid evolution of AI, where both highlight how dramatically more accessible and powerful AI tools have become, emphasizing their ability to boost productivity, automate tasks, and empower professionals— even those without technical backgrounds — to build and create using simple, natural-language prompts.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, host Craig Fuhr welcomes Kenny Bedwell, founder of STR Insights, a data and advisory platform focused on short-term rental (STR) investing. Kenny shares his journey into the STR market, starting from his initial investments to developing a software that helps investors identify profitable markets and avoid regulatory pitfalls. He emphasizes the importance of data-driven decision-making in the STR space, highlighting the shift from quantity to quality in property management and the need for investors to adapt to a maturing market. Kenny discusses the current landscape of STRs, including the impact of regulations, market saturation, and the importance of understanding expenses beyond just cash flow.

In this conversation, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the implications of Trump's proposed $200 billion infusion into the mortgage market, exploring its potential effects on interest rates, home buyer behavior, and the overall housing market dynamics. They analyze historical parallels, market predictions, and the evolving landscape of Non-QM mortgages, emphasizing the importance of strategic pricing and quick closing in real estate transactions.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss various aspects of the current investment landscape, focusing on DSCR pricing, the influence of the five-year treasury, and the implications of recent Fed actions on liquidity. They explore the state of different asset classes, including office and multifamily properties, and provide insights into the single-family market. The conversation emphasizes the importance of being cautious and strategic in investment decisions during a time of market uncertainty.

In this conversation, Justin Spillers discusses the challenges and strategies involved in fundraising and capital raising for real estate investments. He shares insights on innovative preferred equity structures, creative marketing techniques for seller outreach, and the use of technology and AI in operations. The discussion also covers tenant screening and retention strategies, as well as the unique approach of leveraging the LIHTC strategy for value-add opportunities in real estate.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the current state of the real estate market with guest Justin Spillers, who shares insights from his experience in multifamily investing in Ohio. The conversation covers market trends, challenges faced by investors, and the importance of effective tenant management and screening. Justin recounts his journey from law to real estate, detailing his first deal and the lessons learned along the way. The trio also delves into acquisition strategies, operational efficiencies, and the significance of building a strong team to navigate the complexities of the real estate landscape.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier delve into the ongoing debate between single-family and multi-family real estate investments. They explore the historical context of these asset classes, the shifts in market dynamics, particularly in cap rates, and the current opportunities and risks in the multifamily market. The conversation also touches on financing strategies for multifamily investments, emphasizing the importance of understanding expense ratios and realistic cap rates. Overall, the discussion provides valuable insights for investors navigating the evolving real estate landscape.

Craig and Jack discuss how the current real estate market mirrors the early stages of 2007–2011. Pulling from firsthand experience during the Great Recession, Jack explains why he believes we’re only in the early innings of a liquidity-tightening cycle — with 2024 resembling 2007 and 2025 resembling 2008. They break down investor psychology, rate cycles, liquidity, pent-up demand, and how long real estate corrections really take to materialize. They also share practical advice for flippers and real estate investors on pricing strategy, avoiding the “loss-aversion death spiral,” and how to stay liquid to capitalize on opportunities that may appear over the next 12 months.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier engage with Kevin Bupp, a seasoned real estate investor, discussing the current state of the multifamily market, investment strategies, and the importance of having a strong team. Kevin shares his journey in real estate, insights on mobile home park investments, and the dynamics of tenant ownership. The conversation also covers operational challenges and future growth strategies in the real estate sector.

In this conversation, Craig, Jack, and Fred delve into the evolving regulatory landscape affecting real estate investments, particularly focusing on local legislative changes and their implications. They discuss the impact of the Tenant Opportunity to Purchase Act (TOPA) in Washington, D.C., and how it has created challenges for investors. The conversation also touches on the growing scrutiny of institutional ownership in real estate and its relationship with affordability issues. Furthermore, the speakers explore the role of technology in enhancing operational efficiency and customer experience in real estate, emphasizing the importance of product quality and customer-centric approaches. Finally, they discuss the future of lending, highlighting the shifts in market dynamics and the increasing significance of risk management in the industry.

In this milestone 100th episode of Real Investor Radio, hosts Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier welcome Fred Lewis to discuss the evolution of real estate investing, current market trends, and the impact of Wall Street on single-family housing. The conversation delves into the challenges and opportunities facing investors today, including the importance of understanding market dynamics, the role of technology, and the necessity of being prepared for both success and failure. The episode emphasizes the need for strategic thinking and adaptability in a rapidly changing industry.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, hosts Craig Fuhrr and Jack BeVier are joined by Alex Goldovsky, a seasoned real estate investor and entrepreneur. They discuss Alex's journey from a marketing manager to founding ProTitle USA, a leading title company. The conversation delves into the challenges and opportunities in the real estate market, the role of AI in business, and insights into the future of the housing market.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the recent Fed rate cut and its implications for the housing market, alongside the impact of AI on the labor market and real estate investing. They introduce guest Brad Bone, co-founder of River X AI, who shares insights on his journey in real estate, the strategies his company employs, and how AI is revolutionizing lead management and engagement in the industry. The conversation explores the future of AI in real estate, marketing strategies, and the potential for increased efficiency and profitability.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Jack BeVier interviews Dan Butler, a seasoned real estate investor and entrepreneur. They discuss Dan's journey from mechanical engineering to building a successful real estate portfolio, navigating market challenges, and the importance of disciplined financial strategies. Dan shares insights on property management, diversification into other businesses, and the significance of partnerships based on core values. The conversation also touches on current market dynamics, investment strategies, and the importance of continuous learning and adaptation in the real estate industry.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier welcome Noah Parks from Bateman Collective, discussing the evolution of digital marketing in real estate, the impact of AI on marketing strategies, and the importance of data analytics. Noah shares insights on the growth of Bateman Collective, their focus on motivated seller leads, and the significance of quality content in SEO. The conversation also touches on the challenges of adapting to changing marketing channels and the future of AI in the industry.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss various topics related to real estate investing, including the implications of the One Big Beautiful Bill, the importance of financial planning, and the benefits of bonus depreciation and opportunity zones. They also touch on the Housing Choice Voucher Program and the future of green energy mandates, providing insights into how these factors affect real estate investors.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Jack and Craig pull back the curtain on one of the most shocking mortgage fraud scandals to hit Baltimore in decades. With over 500 properties, inflated appraisals, mysterious LLCs, and a secret $444 appraisal signal, this isn’t just a local story — it's a cautionary tale for real estate investors everywhere.Jack shares how Dominion Financial uncovered red flags before the news broke, what this means for DSCR lenders, and why Wall Street is hitting pause on Baltimore. Whether you're an investor, lender, or just fascinated by real estate drama, this breakdown has it all — shady brokers, bad valuations, industry fallout, and what could happen next.

n this episode of Real Investor Radio, host Jack BeVier interviews Malhar Bhagat, a seasoned real estate investor based in Atlanta. Malhar shares his journey from starting in real estate during the Great Recession to becoming a successful investor and lender. He discusses the evolution of his business, the challenges faced in the current market, and the importance of adapting to changes, including the integration of AI in property management. The conversation also covers the significance of short-term rentals and ADUs in today's real estate landscape, as well as insights into market trends and future opportunities.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the current trends in the housing market, highlighting significant price drops and shifts in buyer demand. They explore consumer psychology and its impact on economic outlook, particularly in the context of rising interest rates and potential recessions. The conversation shifts to regional market dynamics, with a focus on Maryland's housing challenges and economic indicators. Mike Griffith, a Maryland delegate, shares his insights on the state's economic landscape, government spending, and the impact of federal dependency on local markets. The discussion emphasizes the need for policy changes to improve Maryland's business climate and address the structural issues affecting its economy. The conversation delves into the complexities of Maryland's budget and taxation, highlighting the challenges faced by residents and the impact of government policies on the economy. The discussion emphasizes the importance of investors in revitalizing housing and the need for advocacy to influence legislation. Personal experiences and insights from the speakers provide a deeper understanding of the political landscape and the necessity for community involvement in shaping policies that affect their lives.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier welcome Bruce McNeilage, a seasoned real estate investor with over 35 years of experience. The conversation delves into the current economic landscape, the evolution of build-to-rent housing, and the challenges investors face in today's market. Bruce shares insights on interest rates, tenant selection, and the impact of legislation on the rental market. The discussion also touches on the role of community banks, the effects of NIMBYism, and the future outlook for real estate investments. Bruce emphasizes the importance of networking and relationships in securing financing and deals, and he provides valuable advice for investors navigating the complexities of the real estate market.

In this episode, Anna Kelley shares her inspiring journey from growing up in Section 8 housing to becoming a successful real estate investor and syndicator. She discusses the importance of understanding economic cycles, the impact of government policies on the real estate market, and the strategies she employs to navigate the current economic landscape. Anna emphasizes the need for investors to be conservative and to focus on cash flow, while also highlighting the opportunities that arise during economic downturns. The conversation also touches on the balance between financial freedom and the responsibilities of being an investor.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the current trends in the housing market, focusing on short sales and housing vouchers. They are joined by Rebecca Ravera, a short sale expert, who shares her insights on the increasing trend of short sales, the complexities of the process, and the regulatory landscape. The conversation also touches on the economic outlook, the impact of policy changes on housing vouchers, and the challenges investors face in navigating the short sale market.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr, Jack Bavier, and Sean Tierney discuss the evolving landscape of real estate investment, focusing on the role of technology, market trends, and regulatory challenges. Sean shares his journey with Entera, a platform that leverages big data to enhance real estate acquisitions and management. The conversation delves into the impact of interest rates, the importance of adapting investment strategies, and the necessity of human oversight in AI-driven processes. They also address the stigma surrounding landlords and the need for better communication with local governments to foster a more favorable environment for property owners.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the current state of the bond market, particularly focusing on five-year bond yields and their implications for real estate investors. They introduce Sean Tierney, a seasoned professional in the real estate investment sector, who shares insights on the evolution of single-family rentals and the challenges of navigating institutional capital. The conversation delves into the intricacies of financing, the impact of market conditions on investment strategies, and the future of portfolio financing in the real estate market.

In this conversation, Ron Phillips shares his extensive journey in the real estate industry, detailing the challenges and pivots he faced over the years. He discusses the evolution of his business model, the importance of adapting to market changes, and the innovative technology he developed to help investors manage their properties effectively. The conversation also highlights the significance of partnerships and creating generational wealth through real estate investment.

In this episode, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier welcome Dustin Wells to discuss the evolving landscape of real estate lending, particularly focusing on business purpose loans and consumer lending. They explore the significance of DSCR products, the challenges and opportunities in non-QM lending, and the role of technology in streamlining processes for brokers. The conversation highlights the importance of building strong relationships with brokers, the competitive edge offered by Dominion's price beat guarantee, and the future potential of AI in the lending industry.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Brian Leibowitz discuss the evolution of the real estate market, focusing on the five-year treasury trends, Brian's journey in real estate, and the importance of market knowledge. They delve into the REO market, the transition to Dominion Properties, and the marketing strategies that set them apart in a competitive landscape. The conversation highlights the significance of data in real estate and the various acquisition strategies employed, including courthouse auctions. In this conversation, Brian Leibowitz and Craig Fuhr delve into the intricacies of real estate investing, focusing on efficiency in transactions, auction dynamics, foreclosure risks, and the importance of empathy in distressed sales. They discuss the current state of the MLS, the strategies for navigating short sales, and the significance of follow-up in closing deals. The dialogue emphasizes the need for investors to adapt to market changes and enhance their operational skills to succeed in a competitive landscape.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the latest trends in the real estate market, insights from the recent Home Builders Show, and the journey of Brentin Hess, a successful real estate investor. They explore the challenges of cash flow, the importance of networking, and the growth of the Maryland Investor Network, emphasizing community building and the significance of in-person events for investors. The conversation highlights the realities of real estate investing, the importance of perseverance, and the excitement of upcoming events in the community.

In this episode of Real Investor Radio, Craig Fuhr and Jack BeVier discuss the current state of the real estate market, investor sentiment, and the impact of economic changes on the industry. They explore the role of AI in real estate operations, share insights from a recent investor roundtable in Houston, and predict the future of DSCR loans amidst evolving market dynamics. The conversation emphasizes the importance of cash flow, operational efficiency, and adapting to market conditions for long-term success in real estate investing.