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S2 Ep 100The Plot to Steal the Presidency — The Weekly Roundup

Political strategist Simon Rosenberg, communications consultant Susan Del Percio, and social policy expert Lanae Erickson join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (02:44) The Plot to Steal the Presidency and what Democrats can do to stop it (21:14) Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer’s Retirement (38:11) Newt Gingrich calls for investigations and jail time for January 6th Committee members. [Politicology+ Exclusive] Joe Biden weighs sending troops to Eastern Europe as Russia builds troops on Ukraine’s border// Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Read The Plot to Steal the Presidency presentation: https://bit.ly/3HaWtIJ Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/SimonWDC https://twitter.com/DelPercioS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 28, 20221h 6m

S2 Ep 99The Cases of the Coup

Former federal prosecutor and legal analyst Michael Zeldin joins Ron Steslow to talk about the seditious conspiracy charges and the January 6th prosecutions. To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus (01:48) The seditious conspiracy statute (09:30) What these charges might mean for Trump’s inner circle (18:02) Obstruction of Congress charges (30:07) The SCOTUS decision allowing the House committee to get White House documents related to the attack (34:56) January 6th Committee subpoenas (43:23) Rudy Giuliani in legal jeopardy for his role in organizing fake electoral vote certificates (51:15) Fulton County DA empanels a special grand jury to investigate Trump’s attempts to overturn the election Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Michael and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MichaelZeldin https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 26, 20221h 7m

S2 Ep 98“Cleanup on Aisle Democracy” — The Weekly Roundup

Political strategists Mike Madrid and Liz Gilbert join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (02:16) Review Joe Biden’s first year in office (26:08) The RNC’s pledge that candidates will boycott debates (43:44) Tucker Carlson’s Russian Propaganda [Politicology+ Exclusive] Florida’s new bill aimed at protecting white people from “discomfort” in schools or diversity training // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/madrid_mike https://twitter.com/_lizgilbert Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 21, 20221h 9m

S2 Ep 97On the Border of War

Retired CIA Senior Intelligence Service Officer John Sipher joins Ron Steslow to talk about how the Russian troop buildup at the Ukrainian border and the American response. Before retiring, Sipher ran the CIA’s Russia Operations at headquarters. To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus (01:58) Russia’s troop buildup near Ukraine (04:03) The Russia policy Biden inherited (13:43) NATO’s open door policy (18:00) The Republicans focus on state legislatures over federal laws (21:29) The Biden-Putin phone calls (24:06) False Flag operations (46:50) How the US could Respond (51:33) What John is watching for Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow John and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/john_sipher https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 20, 20221h 5m

S2 Ep 96Fauci Ouchie — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategist Lucy Caldwell and communications consultant Susan Del Percio join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:25) Biden’s speeches about January 6th, jobs and the economy, and voting rights (38:22) Fauci’s hot mic moment and the Biden administration’s covid messaging woes (57:49) Trump Vs. Republican Senators who say the 2020 election was fair [Politicology+ Exclusive] How Democrats can win the disinformation war // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/DelPercioS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 14, 20221h 29m

S2 Ep 95Adventures In Federalism

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political Strategist Lucy Caldwell joins Ron Steslow to talk about how the state-level infrastructure allows Republicans to develop similar laws in statehouses across the country. (02:56) How state laws get written (10:02)The role of legislative council (13:56) How groups like ALEC and SPN work together to get laws passed (28:24) The Republicans focus on state legislatures over federal laws (39:12) How Democrats could build out their infrastructure Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Lucy and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 13, 20221h 6m

S2 Ep 94Better for the struggle — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategist Lucy Caldwell and Mike Madrid join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (02:55) The January 6, 2021 Attack on the Capitol (53:17) The Great Resignation and its impact on the economy [Politicology+ Exclusive] Marjorie Taylor Greene’s permanent ban from Twitter and the impact of deplatforming// Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/madrid_mike https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 7, 20221h 25m

S2 Ep 93Encore: January 6 through a Photographer’s Lens

To unlock exclusive premium content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus On the anniversary of the attack at the Capitol, photographer Gabriella Demczuk walks listeners through her firsthand account of the January 6, 2021 insurrection, from Donald Trump’s “Stop The Steal” rally on the National Mall to the gallery of the House chamber as rioters breached the Capitol. (03:01) Getting the assignment for January 6 (05:45) Reading the crowd at the rally (07:35) Rep. Madison Cawthorn, in his own words (10:30) Back to the U.S. Capitol (12:46) Looking out the East Front (13:33) Capitol under lockdown (16:25) Trying to do our jobs (17:10) Sheltering in the House chamber (25:53) Bursting the “safe space” bubble (30:01) Reflections walking home (32:43) [Lack of] Republican remorse (34:33) The fragility of democracy What Madison Cawthorn Saw At The Insurrection by Olivia Nuzzi Want to help build Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow Ron and Gabriella: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://instagram.com/gdemczuk https://twitter.com/gdemczuk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 6, 202248 min

S2 Ep 92Encore: The Pursuit of Happiness with Dr. Catherine Sanderson

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Poler Family Professor and chair of the psychology department at Amherst College Dr. Catherine Sanderson joins Ron Steslow to talk about happiness and how to harness the power of a positive mindset. (02:49) The negative connotation of the “power of positive thinking” and adopting a growth mindset (11:32) Revisiting the myth of monsters (13:13) Redemption and reconciliation, and applying a growth mindset to others: the “fundamental attribution error” (20:05) Let’s talk about stress (22:43) Grieving shared loss and uncertainty (28:20) Adequate sleep and happiness (32:04) Smiling through the pain...and other methods (36:17) Importance of conversations and meaningful relationships (39:10) Bringing people together for political engagement The Positive Shift by Dr. Catherine Sanderson https://benbellabooks.com/shop/the-positive-shift/ Politicology - March 10: Becoming Moral Rebels with Dr. Catherine Sanderson https://politicology.com/episodes/dr-catherine-sanderson-becoming-moral-rebels/ The Victory Lab by Sasha Issenberg https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/215192/the-victory-lab-by-sasha-issenberg/ Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Robert M. Sapolsky https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780805073690 Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate! Follow Catherine and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SandersonSpeaks https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 5, 202230 min

S2 Ep 91Farewell 2021 — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Communications expert Susan Del Percio and social policy expert Lanae Erickson join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:42) The right wing fight over Trump’s support for Covid vaccines (17:05) The Republican push to make school board elections partisan (29:38) The worst political predictions of 2021 and our predictions for 2022 [Politicology+ Exclusive] The launch of the James Webb Space Telescope// Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/DelPercioS https://twitter.com/LanaeErickson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 31, 20211h 2m

S2 Ep 90We have a Democracy Problem — with Mike Madrid

In Part 2 of this wide-ranging conversation between Mike Madrid and Ron Steslow, co-founders of The Lincoln Project, the two political strategists discuss what Latino voter trends can tell us about future elections and the erosion of democracy around the globe To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus (01:49) Mike’s advice to Democrats and Republicans (03:53) What the trend lines of Latino voters can tell us about 2024 (07:12) The new Reagan Democrats (21:17) The erosion of institutions (42:43) The tension between technology and democracy Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate! Follow Mike and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/madrid_mike https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 29, 202156 min

S2 Ep 89“Covid Fatigue” — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategists Mike Madrid and Jon Boughtin join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:52) Joe Manchin tanks Biden’s policy agenda (19:44) The January 6th Committee’s investigation into Donald Trump (43:14) The newly reinstated “Remain in Mexico” immigration policy [Politicology+ Exclusive] Trump supporters going door to door looking for voter fraud over a year after the 2020 election// Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Read “How Do Democrats Recover From This?” in the Atlantic: https://bit.ly/3yVy6es Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/NewDemJon https://twitter.com/madrid_mike Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 24, 20211h 13m

S2 Ep 88Democrats Have A Latino Problem — with Mike Madrid

In Part 1 of this wide-ranging conversation between Mike Madrid and Ron Steslow, co-founders of The Lincolns Project, the two political strategists discuss hidden Latino voting trends and how Democrats must better understand this part of the electorate in order to win pivotal electoral fights. Part 2 will be published on Wednesday, Dec 29, 2021 To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus (02:05) How we’re getting hispanic voting patterns wrong (06:13) How Latino voter trends in California are different from the rest of the country (19:35) How the California Latino population influences national polls (30:13) Some lessons Democrats can learn to win more Latino votes Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate! Follow Mike and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/madrid_mike https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 23, 202152 min

S2 Ep 87“The Texter is Inside the House” — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategists Liz Gilbert and Eric Koch join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:34) The Lawmakers who texted Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows (16:15) The Fox News hosts who pleaded for Trump to stop the insurrection (44:51) The newly reinstated “Remain in Mexico” immigration policy [Politicology+ Exclusive] TIME Magazine’s selection of Elon Musk as 2021 Person of the Year // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Read Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun in the Atlantic: https://bit.ly/3s0l1zr Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/EricDKoch https://twitter.com/_lizgilbert Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 17, 20211h 8m

S2 Ep 86Does giving make you happy? with Dr. Catherine Sanderson

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Poler Family Professor and chair of the psychology department at Amherst College Dr. Catherine Sanderson joins Ron Steslow to talk about how giving can make you happier. (02:08) What is happiness and how can we measure it? (08:31) Does giving make you happy or do happy people give more? (10:20) Types of giving and the impact on happiness (14:50) The effect of giving on bad moods (28:58) Gratitude letters The Positive Shift by Dr. Catherine Sanderson https://benbellabooks.com/shop/the-positive-shift/ Politicology - March 10: Becoming Moral Rebels with Dr. Catherine Sanderson https://politicology.com/episodes/dr-catherine-sanderson-becoming-moral-rebels/ Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate! Follow Catherine and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SandersonSpeaks https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 15, 202147 min

S2 Ep 85The Coup In Progress — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategist Lucy Caldwell and national security writer and Georgetown University adjunct professor Molly McKew join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:34) President Biden’s call with Putin about the Russian military buildup at the Ukrainian border (16:15) Trump’s next coup that’s already underway (44:51) The challenges of vaccine mandates [Politicology+ Exclusive] Sen. David Perdue’s announcement that he’s running for governor of Georgia // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Read Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun in the Atlantic: https://bit.ly/3s0l1zr Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 10, 20211h 20m

S2 Ep 84Scott MacFarlane on Prosecuting the Insurrection — Part 2

Award-winning investigative reporter Scott MacFarlane talks with Ron Steslow about the most critical filings and pivotal moments in the Feds’ ever-growing case against the January 6 insurrectionists. (02:57) Where the insurrection investigation stands at this moment (04:46) The differences between high-level and high-profile prosecutions (00:00) The relationship between the DOJ investigation and the January 6th Committee investigation (06:07) The January 6th committee’s subpoenas held up in court (14:00) The conspiracy cases we’re watching play out (15:03) The makeshift weapons of the insurrectionists (17:13) The problem of too much evidence (22:16) What sentences we should expect to see (29:17) The defendants who are flying under the radar (36:43) The threat of repeat attacks at statehouses Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Scott and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 9, 202155 min

S2 Ep 83Message & Discipline — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Crisis communications specialist Susan Del Percio and social policy expert Lanae Erickson join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:35) CNN Suspends Chris Cuomo (21:17) The Omicron variant (31:19) The “Big Lie”supporters running for key election official posts [Politicology+ Exclusive] Build Back Better’s Byrd Bath and the most important person in Washington whose name you’ve never heard. // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/LanaeErickson https://twitter.com/DelPercioS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 3, 20211h 15m

S2 Ep 82‘The Rule of Law is Back’ with Adam Schiff

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Congressman Adam Schiff joins Ron Steslow to discuss his rise in prominence during the Trump presidency, the work of the January 6th committee, and his new book Midnight in Washington: How We Almost Lost Our Democracy and Still Could (01:45) Serving as the Ranking Member on the House Intelligence Committee and being the lead impeachment manager (05:36) What he was thinking on January 6th (09:55)The work the January 6th Committee is doing (18:03) The pernicious idea of American Exceptionalism (22:20) Why he wrote his book, Midnight in Washington (27:38) What we can do to protect against authoritarianism in the U.S. Purchase Midnight in Washington: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/669172/midnight-in-washington-by-adam-schiff/ Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Congressman Schiff and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 1, 202140 min

S2 Ep 81“Look Up” — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus National security writer and Georgetown University adjunct professor Molly McKew and political strategist Mike Madrid join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important (international) stories of the week: (01:35) China and their hypersonic missile (21:17) Anne Applebaum’s Atlantic article “The Bad Guys are Winning” (31:19) The civil war in Ethiopia [Politicology+ Exclusive] Space and Frontier // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Read “The Bad Guys Are Winning” https://bit.ly/3HStKc6 Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/madrid_mike https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 26, 20211h 19m

S2 Ep 80System Error — Part 2

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus In the second part of this two-episode conversation, Stanford Professors Mehran Sahami and Jeremy Weinstein join Ron Steslow to discuss their book System Error: Where Big Tech Went Wrong and How We Can Reboot. (07:11) The modern day trolley problem (16:54) Reorienting invention toward problem solving (23:16) The other skills tech companies need (28:53) The problem of the inventor/CEO (39:57) What companies and governments can do to reshape how big tech operates Purchase System Error: https://systemerrorbook.com/ Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Mehran and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mehran_sahami https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 24, 202157 min

S2 Ep 79The Sh*tshow Must Go On — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategists Lucy Caldwell and Simon Rosenberg join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:35) Steve Bannon’s indictment for Contempt of Congress (21:17 Beto O’Rourke’s 2022 campaign and how it fits into the midterms (31:19) The Republicans playing footsie with a 2024 presidential run [Politicology+ Exclusive] The increasing speculation around a Harris/Buttigieg primary fight in 2024// Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/SimonWDC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 19, 20211h 8m

S2 Ep 78System Error — Part 1

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus In this two-episode conversation, Stanford Professors Mehran Sahami and Jeremy Weinstein join Ron Steslow to discuss their book System Error: Where Big Tech Went Wrong and How We Can Reboot. (05:42) Why they decided to write their book (10:56) How venture capital has shaped Silicon Valley (19:04) Optimization mindset meets Democracy (37:36) Our privacy boundaries when it comes to government and private companies Purchase System Error: https://systemerrorbook.com/ Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Mehran and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mehran_sahami https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 17, 202153 min

S2 Ep 77Double Exclamation — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategists Lucy Caldwell and Mike Madrid join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:35) The growing list of subpoenas issued by the January 6th Committee (21:08) The Bipartisan Infrastructure bill passes in Congress (33:35) The highs and lows of the economic recovery [Politicology+ Exclusive] How climate activists are using Big Oil’s playbook // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/madrid_mike Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 13, 20211h 7m

S2 Ep 76Carly Fiorina on Playing the Long Game

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Former presidential candidate and Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina joins Ron Steslow to discuss how short-term gains have gotten preferential treatment over long-term planning and success. (04:39) The differences between short-term vs. long-term (07:02) Expecting quick fixes to long-term problems (15:30) The shift in corporate responsibility from just shareholders to stakeholders (30:32) How the short-term goal of winning elections short-circuits governing Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Carly and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CarlyFiorina https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 10, 20211h 21m

S2 Ep 75An Existential Crisis — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Social policy expert Lanae Erickson and national security writer and Georgetown University adjunct professor Molly McKew join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:35) The results of this week’s election (17:16) The UN Global Climate Change Summit in Glasgow (34:12) China’s Cryptocurrency and what it can mean for the U.S. [Politicology+ Exclusive] The ethical questions of facial recognition technology // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/LanaeErickson https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 5, 20211h 6m

S2 Ep 74Winners Take All with Congressman Steve Israel

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Former Congressman and former Chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Steve Israel sits down with Ron Steslow to discuss what Democrats must learn from the 2020 election and what they must do to have a shot at maintaining their majorities in 2022. (01:59)The balance between local and national interest in races (06:54) What we learned from the 2020 down ticket races (20:23) The ideological diversity within the Democratic party and how it shapes campaigns and governing (30:10) Keeping campaigns and messaging local (33:26) What the driving topics of the midterms might be Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Steve and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RepSteveIsrael https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nov 3, 202157 min

S2 Ep 73Pandemic of Disinformation — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategist Lucy Caldwell and communications expert Susan Del Percio join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:25) The latest in the Facebook whistleblower documents (20:26) The Republicans in Congress who met with the January 6th organizers (32:53) One step closer to Covid-19 vaccines for children ages 5-11 [Politicology+ Exclusive] The governor’s races in New Jersey and Virginia // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/DelPercioS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 29, 202159 min

S2 Ep 72Strongmen — Part 2

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus In the second part of this two-episode conversation, NYU Professor of History and Italian Studies Ruth Ben-Ghiat joins Ron Steslow to discuss her book Strongmen and what we can learn from the history of autocrats and those who stood up to them. (01:13) The American rights obsession with Orban (05:02) How authoritarians have used elections to come to power (08:11) January 6th and how it will serve as a touchstone for the American authoritarian movement (18:31) Trump’s recent rallies and how they fit into the patterns of authoritarians (26:53) The ways people have pushed back against authoritarians and what we can do now Purchase Strongmen: https://wwnorton.com/books/strongmen Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Ruth and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ruthbenghiat https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 27, 202146 min

S2 Ep 71"Majority Leader Manchin" — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Social policy expert Lanae Erickson and political strategist Frank Sadler join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:39) The Democratic House members retiring before the 2022 midterms (18:37)The Striketober demonstrations at companies from Kellogg’s to John Deere (31:41) The Virginia Gubernatorial election [Politicology+ Exclusive] The reporting that West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin talked to associates about leaving the Democratic party // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/LanaeErickson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 22, 20211h 4m

S2 Ep 70Strongmen — Part 1

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus In this two-episode conversation, NYU Professor of History and Italian Studies Ruth Ben-Ghiat joins Ron Steslow to discuss her book Strongmen and what we can learn from the history of autocrats and those who stood up to them. (02:01) Why she decided to write her book (04:18) Understanding Trump in the context of other autocratic leaders (06:29) The warning signs of strongmen as the rise to power (10:52) Why we don’t always see authoritarian leaders coming (28:48) How the pandemic accelerated democratic decline Purchase Strongmen: https://wwnorton.com/books/strongmen Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Ruth and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ruthbenghiat https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 20, 202140 min

S2 Ep 69"They’ll Remember That Sh*t” — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Democratic strategist Liz Gilbert and political strategist Mike Madrid join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:45) The January 6th Committee ramps up pressure on subpoenaed Trump allies (14:30) The good and bad of corporate citizenship (39:35) The supply chain struggles and the looming holiday crisis [Politicology+ Exclusive] The resignation of Raiders coach Jon Gruden after reports that he sent homophobic and misogynistic emails // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/madrid_mike https://twitter.com/_lizgilbert Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 15, 20211h 6m

S2 Ep 68Submarines, German Elections, and Biden’s Speech at the U.N. — A Global Power Q&A with Molly McKew

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus National security writer and Georgetown University adjunct professor Molly McKew joins Ron Steslow to break down some of the most important international news stories: (01:50) The U.S., U.K., and Australian security partnership and the submarine deal that angered the French. (17:08) Joe Biden’s speech at the United Nations General Assembly (18:16) How the German elections (and Angela Merkle’s decision not to seek reelection) will impact global politics (36:02) The relationship between foreign policy and public opinion. Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this Molly on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 13, 202158 min

S2 Ep 67Bad Blood — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Communications Strategists Susan Del Percio and Eric Koch join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:27) The Facebook whistleblower’s 60 Minutes interview and testimony before congress (21:12) Donald Trump begs to get back on Twitter and launches a new Make America Great Again Again PAC (35:16) Taylor Swift’s masters get swept into the Virginia gubernatorial race [Politicology+ Exclusive] The first round of subpoenas issued by the January 6th committee // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate What we mentioned: MSNBC: Donald Trump's Twitter lawsuit is about 2024, not free speech— https://on.msnbc.com/3Bpttdg Prejudice Reduction: Progress and Challenges— https://bit.ly/3uV7etb Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/DelPercioS https://twitter.com/EricDKoch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 8, 20211h 5m

S2 Ep 66Our Own Worst Enemy — Part 2

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus In this two-episode conversation, Professor of National Security Affairs Tom Nichols joins Ron Steslow to discuss who is really to blame for the crisis in American democracy—and what we can do about it. (00:50) The “horseshoe theory” (06:56) Why globalization isn’t the boogeyman we think it is (18:42) Civic duty and the pro democracy changes we need to make (38:08) Figures who we can model Purchase Our Own Worst Enemy: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/our-own-worst-enemy-9780197518878 Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Tom and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 6, 202151 min

S2 Ep 65Dear Leader Zuckerberg — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus National security writer and Georgetown University adjunct professor Molly McKew and political strategist Lucy Caldwell join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:30)The ongoing debates over passing the Biden Agenda (19:43) Facebook and the fight to get tech giants to reveal their data (39:51) The struggles of women and LGBTQ people in Afghanistan under the Taliban [Politicology+ Exclusive] The first round of subpoenas issued by the January 6th committee // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 1, 20211h 12m

S2 Ep 64Our Own Worst Enemy — Part 1

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus In this two-episode conversation, Professor of National Security Affairs Tom Nichols joins Ron Steslow to discuss who is really to blame for the crisis in American democracy—and what we can do about it. (01:43) Why it was difficult to write this book (06:38) The feeling that we’re living in the “worst of times” (15:32) Hedonistic adaptation (18:22) Village Mentality and Banfield’s “Montegrano” (29:03) The importance of public and private virtue (37:18) The danger of nostalgia in the rise of illiberalism Purchase Our Own Worst Enemy: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/our-own-worst-enemy-9780197518878 Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Tom and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 29, 202156 min

S2 Ep 63The New Single Issue Voter — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Communications expert Susan Del Percio and political strategist Mike Madrid join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:42)The newest form of single issue voters and the rifts in the Republican party (30:19) The looming debt limit crisis (43:33) Major companies committing to training and hiring Afghan refugees [Politicology+ Exclusive] The gossip, bombshells, and scoops from Bob Woodward and Robert Costa’s new book, Peril// Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/madrid_mike https://twitter.com/DelPercioS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 24, 20211h 5m

S2 Ep 62A Short Bench

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Social policy expert Lanae Erickson joins Ron Steslow to talk about how Republicans and Democrats view and prioritize federal judges (01:25) The role and structure of the federal judiciary (03:12) The impact Trump appointed judges can have (07:06) Republicans focus on judges during campaigns (11:11) What Republicans look for in judges (17:41) What the Federalist Society is (19:56) Why Democrats don’t have an equivalent to the Federalist Society (34:14) “Living Constitution” judicial philosophy (38:53) Executive branch enforcement of judicial decisions (48:06) What you can do to affect the focus on judges Politicology is supported by listeners like you. Can you pitch in right now at https://politicology.com/donate? Follow Lanae and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LanaeErickson https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 22, 202159 min

S2 Ep 61‘We Gotta Go Now’ — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Social policy expert Lanae Erickson and political strategist Lucy Caldwell join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:47) President George W. Bush on 9/11 and January 6 (20:01) The new democracy protection bill in the Senate and why it might spark filibuster reform (42:59) Biden’s vaccine mandate [Politicology+ Exclusive] The political statements AOC and Billie Eilish made at the Met Gala // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/LanaeErickson https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 17, 20211h 13m

S2 Ep 60The Pursuit of Happiness with Dr. Catherine Sanderson

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Poler Family Professor and chair of the psychology department at Amherst College Dr. Catherine Sanderson joins Ron Steslow to talk about happiness and how to harness the power of a positive mindset. (02:49) The negative connotation of the “power of positive thinking” and adopting a growth mindset (11:32) Revisiting the myth of monsters (13:13) Redemption and reconciliation, and applying a growth mindset to others: the “fundamental attribution error” (20:05) Let’s talk about stress (22:43) Grieving shared loss and uncertainty (28:20) Adequate sleep and happiness (32:04) Smiling through the pain...and other methods (36:17) Importance of conversations and meaningful relationships (39:10) Bringing people together for political engagement The Positive Shift by Dr. Catherine Sanderson https://benbellabooks.com/shop/the-positive-shift/ Politicology - March 10: Becoming Moral Rebels with Dr. Catherine Sanderson https://politicology.com/episodes/dr-catherine-sanderson-becoming-moral-rebels/ The Victory Lab by Sasha Issenberg https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/215192/the-victory-lab-by-sasha-issenberg/ Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Robert M. Sapolsky https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780805073690 Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate! Follow Catherine and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SandersonSpeaks https://twitter.com/RonSteslow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 15, 202130 min

S2 Ep 59Domestic Radicalization — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content (including the TAPPED episode with David Becker), visit: https://politicology.com/plus Former DNC president Liz Gilbert and Lincoln Project co-founder Mike Madrid join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:41) The fever pitch across America’s school districts as mask and vaccine policies are hotly debated (15:27) Governor Greg Abbott signs Texas’s anti-democracy bill into law (31:15) What we can learn about the tradeoffs of direct democracy by watching California’s recall process [Politicology+ Exclusive] The disgraced former president set to re-infect our politics // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Center for Election Innovation and Research - https://electioninnovation.org/ Election Official Legal Defense Network https://eoldn.org/ Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/_lizgilbert https://twitter.com/madrid_mike Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 10, 20211h 4m

S2 Ep 58Politicology Mailbag with Ron Steslow & Lucy Caldwell

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategist Lucy Caldwell joins Ron Steslow to answer Politicology listeners’ questions: (00:24) What can be done about Fox News and right wing media lies? (06:04) What happens if we “lose” and democracy fails? (15:43) How do caucuses affect the legislative process? Have a question for a future Mailbag episode? Send it over to us at [email protected]! Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate! Follow Lucy and Ron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 8, 202130 min

S2 Ep 57Vigilante Injustice — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategist Lucy Caldwell and attorney George Conway join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: (01:32) The political fallout from the Afghanistan withdrawal: how Republicans are reacting, and how public opinion has shifted in the last month (21:31) why SCOTUS allowed an extreme and devious bill restricting abortion access in Texas to go into effect, and the more direct threat to Roe that has been overlooked in the news coverage (43:02) How so-called “new puritanism” is trampling on classical liberal values References from the show: Anne Applebaum - The New Puritans: Mob Justice Is Trampling Democratic Discourse https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/10/new-puritans-mob-justice-canceled/619818/ [Politicology+ Exclusive] The House January 6 Committee’s latest records request, and Republican threats against private companies that comply // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus Are you learning from Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/gtconway3d Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 3, 20211h 16m

S2 Ep 56Leaving Afghanistan: Part 2

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus National security writer and researcher Molly McKew and Fmr. Senior CIA Official and author Marc Polymeropoulos continue their conversation with host Ron Steslow about America’s disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the role of the Biden and Trump administrations. (01:03) Democrats must be willing to own their mistakes (10:43) Debunking “inevitability” and mistruths from American leadership (16:38) Life in Afghanistan now and what’s to come (29:17) The Taliban’s approach to “governing” (32:39) Crowd funding an evacuation (41:20) What individuals can do to help The Washington Post: How to help Afghan refugees and those trapped during the Taliban takeover https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/21/how-to-help-afghan-refugees/ Want to help build Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew https://twitter.com/Mpolymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 2, 202158 min

S2 Ep 55Leaving Afghanistan: Part 1

To unlock exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus National security writer and researcher Molly McKew and fmr. senior CIA official and author Marc Polymeropoulos join host Ron Steslow to discuss the chaos and catastrophe in Afghanistan. (03:10) Molly’s and Marc’s unique vantage points on Afghanistan (14:33) Putting Afghanistan in context: America’s goals, and the war’s political legitimacy (20:17) When counterterrorism became nation-building, how America projects military power, and the tension between America’s interests and values (34:45) Trump’s deal with the Taliban, the decision to withdraw troops, and America’s pincer of isolationism (49:01) Public opinion, foreign policy, and America’s total exit Want to help build Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Clarity in Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the CIA by Marc Polymeropoulos August 11 - Directed Energy Attacks and Leadership Lessons with Marc Polymeropoulos Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew https://twitter.com/Mpolymer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 1, 20211h 10m

S2 Ep 54“Surfer on a Tsunami” — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Communications expert Susan Del Percio and political strategist Mike Madrid join Ron Steslow to look at some of the most important stories of the week: *Note: A full episode on Afghanistan will be published on Politicology on September 1. Tap the ‘Follow’ button now to be notified.* (01:51) New mandates and new pushback as the Pfizer vaccine gains full FDA approval (15:44) John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act passes the House on party lines (31:24) The dark and dangerous turn Trump’s rallies have taken; the folly of ignoring them References from the show: March 31: Racial Gerrymandering and Voting Power with David Becker July 7: “Democracy in Triage” with David Becker Ron’s mention of Mandy Patinkin on Twitter [Politicology+ Exclusive] “What is” next for Jeopardy! and what does this debacle tell us about how we scrutinize public figures? // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at https://politicology.com/plus Want to help build Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/DelPercioS https://twitter.com/madrid_mike Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 27, 20211h 11m

S2 Ep 53Capturing Insurrection: January 6 through a Photographer’s Lens

To unlock exclusive premium content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Photographer Gabriella Demczuk walks listeners through her firsthand account of the January 6, 2021 insurrection, from Donald Trump’s “Stop The Steal” rally on the National Mall to the gallery of the House chamber as rioters breached the Capitol. (03:01) Getting the assignment for January 6 (05:45) Reading the crowd at the rally (07:35) Rep. Madison Cawthorn, in his own words (10:30) Back to the U.S. Capitol (12:46) Looking out the East Front (13:33) Capitol under lockdown (16:25) Trying to do our jobs (17:10) Sheltering in the House chamber (25:53) Bursting the “safe space” bubble (30:01) Reflections walking home (32:43) [Lack of] Republican remorse (34:33) The fragility of democracy What Madison Cawthorn Saw At The Insurrection by Olivia Nuzzi Want to help build Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow Ron and Gabriella: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://instagram.com/gdemczuk https://twitter.com/gdemczuk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 25, 202148 min

S2 Ep 52“Sacred Cows” — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Political strategist Lucy Caldwell and reporter Ben Jacobs join Ron Steslow to look at the most important stories of the week: (01:39) Biden’s speech, who’s to blame for the bungled Afghanistan withdrawal, and lessons learned after 20 years in the “graveyard of empires” (24:45) Water scarcity and wildfires in the West underscore the reality of our climate crisis (50:19) Millions of T-Mobile users’ data was stolen as the web Whack-A-Mole continues [Politicology+ Exclusive] Shots Fired at the NRA by NY AG Letitia James // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at https://politicology.com/plus Want to help build Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/lucymcaldwell https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 20, 20211h 22m

S2 Ep 51Cuomo, Covid, and Climate, Oh My! — The Weekly Roundup

To access this week’s Politicology+ segment and unlock more exclusive content, visit: https://politicology.com/plus Cuban-American attorney and ‘No Labels’ vice chairman Al Cardenas and social policy expert Lanae Erickson join Ron Steslow to look at the top stories of the week: (02:08) Hurdles in the House for the trillion-dollar bipartisan infrastructure bill; Democrats’ plan for more spending and the urgency to address our climate crisis (19:55) Red state Governors deny reality and responsibility through explosive growth in Covid infections (38:13) Governor Cuomo denies, deflects, and resigns, and New York starts anew [Politicology+ Exclusive] The My Pillow guy’s election conspiracy “Cyber Symposium” // Unlock now and get your private podcast feed at politicology.com/plus July 28 - Despair, Hope, and the Fight for 'Libertad' in Cuba with Al Cardenas Want to help build Politicology? Contribute now at https://politicology.com/donate Follow this week’s panel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RonSteslow https://twitter.com/AlCardenasFL_DC https://twitter.com/LanaeErickson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 13, 20211h 7m