Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

The Browns go on the clock in less than a week and currently hold 10 picks, representing an opportunity to infuse much-needed young talent on the roster. Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe for their final draft preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Their focus in this podcast is the defensive line and they start by letting Lance make his case for a guy that he likes at No. 2 overall. Then they go through their favorite edge rushers and defensive tackles before they each make a case for a player they believe the Browns should take. They wrap up the podcast with a 7-round Browns-only mock draft and then peek ahead to future drafts with players they've noticed while watching this year's prospects. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns GM Andrew Berry held his predraft media availability on Thursday and he spoke about Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe in glowing terms. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start recapping their reaction to Berry's pre-draft availability on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also discuss what Berry had to say about likely No. 2 overall pick Travis Hunter and how the Browns plan to use him. Did anything change about their thoughts on what the Browns will do at No. 2? Could they consider trading out of the pick? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns' decision at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft is starting to become clear and it's starting to look like it won't be a quarterback. This begs the question about what's the worse outcome: taking a swing at quarterback and missing or not taking a swing and having that quarterback succeed elsewhere? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing that question. Which would be a worse outcome for the Browns when they do turn in that card on Thursday night of the draft? Then they take a peek at the second and third rounds of the draft and discuss the positions they would prioritize on Day 2 as a "must-fix" position. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All the buzz around the Browns and No. 2 overall pick is centering on Travis Hunter, bringing up an interesting wrinkle with the Giants, who hold the No. 3 overall pick, scheduling a last-minute private workout with Shedeur Sanders, who has also been linked to the Browns throughout the draft process. What does that workout tell us? Is it more confirmation that the Browns are passing on Sanders in favor of Hunter? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the top of the draft and some of the latest developments on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. After they talk about the Giants workout with Sanders, they dive into Hunter playing two ways in the NFL. How do they think the Browns will use him? Do they think he can hold up playing both positions for a large number of snaps? They also talk about trading down and building through the trenches and touch on Abdul Carter, who hasn't been in the discussion much lately for the No. 2 overall pick. #browns #nfldraft #brownsnews Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NFL Draft is less than two weeks away and Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are starting to have second thoughts about the direction the Browns might go with the No. 2 overall pick. They start there on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Doesn't taking Shedeur Sanders make sense? That's the first question they answer and they discuss the dots they're connecting in starting to lean towards the Browns not taking Sanders at No. 2 overall and what it could mean for the second tier of draft prospects. If they do pass on Sanders, what direction could they go at the position? Could they acknowledge that maybe this draft won't produce their future franchise quarterback? Doesn't it make sense to just take the best player available and would it by the front office and coaching staff some time? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer those questions and more on Monday's podcast. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Flacco is back with the Browns, signing a one-year deal on Friday and reuniting with Kevin Stefanski and Co. after the magical run they had together in 2023, when he helped them reach the playoffs. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe had to get together for an emergency podcast on Friday to discuss Flacco's signing and what it means for the Browns. Does adding Flacco change their draft strategy at all? What does it tell us about the offense with Kevin Stefanski taking more control? What are our expectations for Flacco now that he's back with the Browns? Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan go over all the aspects of Flacco coming back to Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dive deep into the NFL Draft, focusing on potential offensive playmakers for the Browns. They start by discussing the dual-threat capabilities of Travis Hunter and the implications of selecting him over Shedeur Sanders at No. 2. Then they talk through their favorite wide receiver prospects and how they fit the Browns' needs. Then they get into the running backs the Browns could land and Tim goes over what he believes is one of the most important things to look for when evaluating running backs. The discussion then shifts to tight ends. Lastly, it's mock draft time. They go through a four-round, Browns-only mock draft and debate each pick. Approximate time stamps (AI-generated) 00:00 Introduction to the Draft Show 02:00 Travis Hunter: The Dual Threat 05:40 Evaluating Travis Hunter's Potential 11:50 The Two-Way Player Dilemma 14:07 Travis Hunter vs. Shedeur Sanders 17:03 Wide Receiver Prospects for the Browns 39:04 Exploring Running Back Options 01:07:02 Tight End Talk 01:20:04 Mock Draft Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the latest quarterback news for the Browns, focusing on the implications of Louis Riddick's comments regarding Shedeur Sanders and the team's draft strategy. They explore the challenges of developing quarterbacks in Cleveland, the impact of the Deshaun Watson trade, and the potential directions the team may take in the upcoming draft. The conversation highlights the complexities of the Browns' situation and the various factors influencing their decisions as they prepare for the draft. They discuss: * Louis Riddick's insights on Shador Sanders are significant. * The Browns' quarterback development history under scrutiny. * Deshaun Watson's trade has lasting implications for the team. * Kevin Stefanski's ability to develop quarterbacks. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns appear headed for a decision between Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders and wide receiver/cornerback Travis Hunter at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft. Mary Kay Cabot wrote about her opinion on Tuesday and then jumped on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe to talk about her thoughts on the matter and hear what Ashley and Dan think about the decision. They discuss why it might be better to land a good quarterback over a great player at another position and why they would take Sanders. They also talk about the risk of missing on Hunter and Penn State pass rusher Abdul Carter vs. the risk of missing the opportunity to take a good quarterback. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position. Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall. They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position. Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall. They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns have done a good job of keeping their NFL Draft plans at No. 2 overall under lock and key and owner Jimmy Haslam even floated the idea of waiting until next year to fix the position. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered questions from Football Insider subscribers on Wednesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. One of those questions: Should the Browns wait until 2026 to draft a quarterback? They discuss the importance of the position and why they both believe taking one at No. 2 is what they would do.They also answer questions about taking multiple quarterbacks in the draft before they discuss the potential of Kenny Pickett. They even answer a questions about how the Browns GM in the movie “Draft Day” would approach this draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns first big move at quarterback this offseason was to acquire Kenny Pickett from the Eagles and now they’re starting to talk up the former Steelers draft pick as a potential Week 1 starter. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Pickett’s potential role as a starting quarterback. They explore the Browns’ overall quarterback strategy, including potential bridge options, and get into the long-term vision for the roster. How does Pickett fit in? They talk through all of it before they look at expectations for this season and spend some time on Kirk Cousins. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns owner Jimmy Haslam admitted on Monday that the trade for Deshaun Watson was a big swing and miss and taking accountability for the mistake, leading many on social media to take it as a sign that the whole trade was the Haslams’ idea. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed how much blame the Haslams really deserve and how much should be spread around on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. First, they talk about what Haslam had to say about the No. 2 overall pick and not forcing a quarterback. They also talk about Kirk Cousins getting spotted in Cleveland, if he could still be in play and if that’s even the best course of action for the Browns. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did the Giants signing Russell Wilson give us a hint as to what the Browns are planning to do with the second pick in the NFL Draft? That’s what at least one of our Football Insider subscribers was wondering on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our subscribers on the latest edition of the podcast. They discuss Wilson signing with the Giants, the Browns working out Cam Ward and if they should trade up for him and talk through some of the other options for the Browns in the draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

NFL Draft silly season in full form and, as long as the Browns are a candidate to pick quarterback Shedeur Sanders at No. 2 overall, they’ll be right in the middle of it. It happened on Monday when a social media rumor circulated about Deion Sanders and comments he likely didn’t make at a convention last week. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk draft season in 2025 and the world of high-profile quarterbacks. They also talk about Cam Ward’s pro day and if the Browns should consider making an offer to the Titans to move up to No. 1 overall before they get into more Internet rumors: Would the 49ers really trade Brandon Aiyuk? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NFL Draft is a month away and the Browns are setting out on the pro day circuit this week to get an up-close look at the quarterbacks in this draft. With the veteran quarterback market slowly starting to take shape and a draft decision awaiting the Browns, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took an opportunity to reset the quarterback market on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about where things stand in the draft and free agency and how the market will develop over the next month for both the rookies and the veterans. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns currently hold the second pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, but should they think about moving up to the No. 1 overall pick? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that idea and more in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Wednesday. Then they turn their attention to the potential of adding Carson Wentz as another veteran option this season. Do they prefer Wentz over Flacco? Is it as crazy an idea as it sounds? They also discuss the 2016 trade the Browns made with the Eagles allowing them to draft Wentz and also get into the future of Jedrick Wills Jr. and if he could return to Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A week into free agency seems like the perfect time to re-assess the Browns roster with the draft five weeks away. Where do things look good? Where do the Browns need help? Will they get it in the draft? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through the roster on Tuesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They go through the positions where the Browns might need the most help and try to determine if those positions are in good enough shape heading into the season. They even spend a little time talking about Nick Chubb and if the Browns should consider bringing him back now that the market for him is slow to develop. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We know the Browns are very much in the quarterback market and the game of veteran quarterback musical chairs is in full swing right now. Even Jameis Winston is getting involved with a visit to the Giants on Monday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take a look at the quarterback market and where things stand and reset where the Browns are at on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They lay out some of the veteran options that are still available and what the Browns' approach is telling us about their draft plans. Then, they talk about the Browns' options in the draft and Mary Kay throws out an idea that not many have discussed to this point. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett held a press conference on Friday after agreeing to a record extension on Sunday and deciding to stick with the Browns after requesting a trade in February. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about Garrett’s press conference on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They get into the message Garrett trided to deliver about why he requested the trade and what changed to lead him to signing the extension — and why he said it wasn’t about the money. They also talk about the work he has to do to repair his relationship with the fans and why they don’t think he’ll regret staying in Cleveland, if he doesn’t win a Super Bowl. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New Browns quarterback Kenny Pickett said on Thursday he believes he’s still a starting quarterback in the NFL and he’s here to compete to start. It had at least one of our Football Insider subscribers nervous Pickett would end up starting. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked about Pickett and the plan with him on Thursday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about the Browns' plan for the makeup of the quarterback room and how Pickett fits into the plan. They also get into the plan with the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft and if the Browns have to take a quarterback and what it would look like if they didn’t and if waiting until next year to solve quarterback is a better plan. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are having free agent quarterback Russell Wilson in for a visit on Thursday, an intriguing development on the quarterback front and one that could impact their plans with the draft approaching. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the possibility of the Browns signing Russell Wilson on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about if it’s as crazy an idea as people are making it seem on social media. Then they get into what it could mean for what the Browns do at the No. 2 overall pick and finding a rookie quarterback. They also spend some time talking about Kirk Cousins and what’s going on with the Falcons quarterback. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns had a quiet first day of the NFL’s legal tampering period, agreeing to acquire Kenny Pickett from the Eagles and planning to move on from defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together on Monday night and discussed the early part of free agency and the moves the Browns made on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. What was the thinking in acquiring Pickett and what will his role be on the team? What’s next at quarterback? What did today tell us about the Browns' approach this offseason if anything, and what do we expect to happen over the next few days, including when the new league year begins on Wednesday afternoon? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Myles Garrett agreed to a record-breaking contract extension on Sunday, ending the saga surrounding his trade request and locking Garrett in through 2030. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the record-setting extension on an emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about what changed between Jimmy Haslam refusing to meet with Garrett and the agreement on this extension before they get into how much credit GM Andrew Berry deserves for this and what’s next for Garrett and the Browns. They also get into the quarterback situation now that the Garrett situation is resolved and what they think the Browns should do there as they work their way towards the 2025 season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett requested a meeting with owner Jimmy Haslam about his ongoing trade request and Haslam rebuffed him. It’s the latest in the saga of Garrett’s trade request and the Browns holding firm in the face of Garrett wanting out. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the ongoing saga of Myles Garrett’s trade request from the Cleveland Browns. They discuss the implications of Jimmy Haslam’s decision to defer to Andrew Berry and not meet with Garrett. Does Haslam owe Garrett a meeting? Did he do the right thing? They also ask if all of this drama is worth it? Would it be in the Browns’ best interests to just give in and trade him? Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns restructured Deshaun Watson’s contract on Thursday to help get them cap compliant and free up some room for the offseason. It came a day after they got the good news that Joel Bitonio will be back for another season. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Watson’s contract restructure and the team’s roster goals for the upcoming season They also talk about the future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns are letting him hit the market and if it’s the right move before they delve into the future of Elijah Moore and the plan at receiver. Then they get into the implications of Bitonio’s return and what it means before they veer into veteran quarterback options and if they think the Browns should bring back Joe Flacco. Approximate time stamps: 0:00 Deshaun Watson’s Contract Restructure 2:52 Browns' Roster Goals and Free Agency Plans 5:48 Nick Chubb’s Future with the Browns 9:10 Elijah Moore’s Performance and Potential Departure 27:48 Joel Bitonio’s Return: A Positive Sign for the Browns 39:52 Quarterback Options: Looking Ahead Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

NFL Draft season means rumor season and the rumors are flying about the Browns' potential No. 2 pick, Shedeur Sanders. It has been reported this week that a quarterback coach who was in a team interview with Sanders didn’t like his attitude. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the report and more on the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss how they view reports like this and what it means about Sanders as he comes in for a visit with the Browns this week. Then they talk about Cam Ward and if the Browns should consider moving up to No. 1 to have a shot to select Ward in the draft. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will venture into free agency next week when the new league year opens on March 12, two days after the legal tampering period begins. One of the positions they will look to fill is quarterback, searching a for a veteran likely to pair with a rookie. What options could they explore? Mary Kay Cabot answers that question in the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay and Dan talk through some of the options. They also talk about last week’s NFL Combine and what they took away from it and what matters in the draft process and answer questions about the NFLPA team report cards, Myles Garrett and more. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are back in the quarterback market so quarterback day at the NFL Combine matters once again with the draft less than two months away. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe listened to the quarterbacks talk on Friday and then recorded the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by talking about the top two prospects and the contrasts in their personalities and playing styles. How do Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders fit with the Browns? Is one a better option than the other? Then they get into some of the players who make up the rest of this year’s class. Should the Browns draft Will Howard? What about Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe? They get into all of it and more. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Myles Garrett have reached a potential inflection point in their standoff, with Garrett and his camp not interested in negotiating an extension. It’s another twist in the saga between the two sides. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the latest on the Garrett vs. the Browns situation on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They talk about what this means and if this is what could cause the Browns to decide to trade Garrett. They also talk about what could have happened between the two sides and the role Klutch Sports plays in all of this. They also talk about the team building impact of trading Garrett and if it would change their view on how the Browns approach this offseason. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns — and Kevin Stefanski — did not fare well on the NFLPA’s 2025 report card. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine by talking about why Stefanski and the Browns graded so poorly, what they can and can’t understand and what the Browns should do about it. First, they spend some time on Kevin Stefanski backing up GM Andrew Berry on hanging on to Myles Garrett after his trade request. Then they get into Deshaun Watson rehabbing in Cleveland and what it says about Watson and the Browns and how this will play out. They wrap up the podcast by getting into Stefanski’s glowing comments about this year’s quarterback draft class. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns GM Andrew Berry spoke on Tuesday for the first time since Myles Garrett went public with his trade request and, unsurprisingly, Berry held his ground in regards to the request. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss what Berry had to say about Garrett and more on their Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They also talk about Berry acknowledging that running back Nick Chubb will hit free agency and tryied to pick through the crumbs of what he said to see if he gave any hints about the team’s free agency or draft plans. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are confident that if they get quarterback figured out, they can start winning again, so when a quarterback like Matthew Stafford might be available, it’s incumbent on the Browns to inquire. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe took a break from scrambling to get ready to leave for the NFL Scouting Combine on Monday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast to talk about the Browns and Stafford and if the Browns really should get aggressive in going after Stafford and if they could actually land him. They also talk about the release of safety Juan Thornhill and what’s next at the position and who needs to step up. Lastly, they discuss Shedeur Sanders not throwing at the Combine and whether they expect Cam Ward to do the same and why it does — or doesn’t — matter. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Myles Garrett remain at a standstill as the NFL Combine starts next week. It’s one of the flashpoints in this ordeal as the event brings GMs and coaches together in one place. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the ongoing situation surrounding Garrett, including potential trade rumors and contract negotiations. They delve into the financial implications of trading Garrett, the value he brings to the team and the Browns' draft strategy, particularly regarding quarterback prospects. Among the highlights: Garrett’s situation is complex. The Browns have control over Garrett’s future due to his contract. Andrew Berry is likely to slow play the situation with Garrett. The value of a player like Garrett is difficult to quantify in terms of wins. It’s essential to question the motives behind leaked information during the Combine. Time stamps (approximate) 00:00 Introduction and Garrett’s Situation 05:40 Financial Implications of Trading Miles Garrett 15:06 Assessing the Value of Garrett 20:16 Quarterback Decisions and Draft Strategies 30:51 Rumors and Speculations Ahead of the Draft Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns cornerback Greg Newsome II wants to be in Cleveland long-term, even with free agency looming after this season. He’ll have a chance to make his case in 2025, but his role is still up in the air. The Browns will have to make decisions sooner on some other players who have been around a while — while they wait on the decision of their longest-tenured player about his future. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look to the future on a number of Browns free agents on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast after they discuss Newsome’s future with the team. They talk about Jedrick Wills Jr., Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio and Jameis Winston and whether they will be around for a little while longer or if their time in a Browns uniform is over. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will go on the clock early in Round of the 2025 NFL Draft and it won't take long to know what they think of the top of this quarterback class. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through what could happen on Tuesday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by discussing Cam Ward's comments about teams passing on him regretting it. Then they get into two Browns-only mock drafts, one Ashley put up on Tuesday and another Dan put up on Saturday. They went in opposite directions at quarterback and edge rusher and they discuss their reasoning. What would the reaction be if the Browns passed on a quarterback? How would they solve the position if they don't do at No. 2 overall? Who are some of their veteran options? They get into all of it on this podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will certainly take a quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft and could very well take one at No. 2 overall. Should they take more than one quarterback? It’s one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Would they take more than one quarterback in the draft? Which player currently on the roster could break out in 2025? Do the Browns need to prioritize running back this offseason given the direction the offense appears headed? They answer those questions and more in the latest podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re back with Part 2 of our Ask Us Anything edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe keep the mailbag open from our Football Insider subscribers and answer their questions about football, life and more. They start by trying to convince one disenfranchised fan that the Browns will be worth watching in 2025 before they get into what they love most about the city of Cleveland, what it’s like when they go on the road for a game and what they like most about covering the Browns and the NFL. We even get a Mary Kay story time involving travel, riding the team bus and a bucket of chicken. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Which Browns seasons were our least and most favorite to cover? How do we react to something like the Myles Garrett trade request? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe answered those questions and more in an Ask Us Anything edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about the good and bad seasons they’ve covered, the content opportunities of a big, breaking news story, last-minute Valentine’s Day gift advice, offseason plans and more. They even make time for some football talk, like whether the Browns will re-sign Nick Chubb and why they left themselves short at tackle last season. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NFL calendar is turning fully to the offseason and the real work is underway for the Browns, who hold the No. 2 overall pick in the draft. On Tuesday’s episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock discuss Dane Brugler’s Top 100 board and his rankings of quarterbacks Sheduer Sanders and Cam Ward. They also talk about veteran quarterback options like Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold before they get into what it would look like if the Browns didn’t take a quarterback at No. 2 overall. Time stamps (AI generated) 00:00 Introduction 00:56 Draft Season and Quarterback Rankings 03:57 Evaluating Quarterback Potential 08:08 The Importance of Team Fit for Quarterbacks 11:12 Veteran Quarterback Options for the Browns 15:03 Assessing Kirk Cousins and Other Veterans 19:56 Trading Down vs. Staying at Number Two 23:56 Hypothetical Scenarios for the Browns' Draft Strategy 27:00 Reality TV and Game Show Preferences Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There could be another veteran quarterback option for the Browns now that the Jets have decided to move on from Aaron Rodgers. Would they have an interest in the former league MVP and Super Bowl champ to start for them next season? That's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start in their latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk through why the Browns might consider Rodgers and why they might decide to avoid pursuing him. They also dig more into the Myles Garrett trade request and the fallout from his media tour Super Bowl week and what he had to say in a week full of interviews. Is there any coming back from what he had to say? Are they more or less convinced he'll actually get traded? They also try to predict what the Browns quarterback room will look like in 2025 and discuss the rookie quarterback options. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The fallout from Myles Garrett’s trade request from the Browns continued throughout Super Bowl week, including Denzel Ward’s comments about his future in Cleveland if the Browns did trade their star pass rusher. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started their weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Ward’s comments and the potential fallout on the roster if Garrett’s trade request is granted by the Browns. They also spend more time on Garrett and the Browns' options, if they believe that he’ll actually get traded and what this looks like if it turns ugly between the two sides. They wrap up by looking ahead to Sunday’s Super Bowl matchup between the Chiefs and Eagles. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Myles Garrett made his trade request to the Browns on Monday and the reactions to his request and guesses as to the future came in hot and heavy. With a little time to reflect, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together for a day-after Myles Garrett Orange and Brown Talk podcast and talked through how their viewpoint has evolved since Garrett made the request. They discuss why it’s difficult for the Browns to trade Garrett and why it simply might not make sense. They also talk about how they think this all will end and if Garrett has any leverage in this situation. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett went public with his trade request on Monday morning, starting off Super Bowl week with a bang and shaking the NFL world. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to Garrett’s trade request on this emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start with their initial reaction to the trade request and what they first thought when Garrett’s statement came out. Then they get into the timing of Garrett going public with this when he did. They discuss the Browns' options as they stand steadfast in their stance to not trade him and if they should at least think about it. They also get into if they actually think Garrett will be traded and, if not, how this will end. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns hope to turn around their fortunes quickly after a 3-14 season in 2024, but it won’t be easy, given the elite talent at quarterback in the AFC and the holes on the roster. Should Browns fans reset their expectations for the near future? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer that question on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss the difficulty of winning the Super Bowl, especially out of the AFC with all the quarterbacks in the conference before they turn their attention to the draft. Do they have to take a quarterback? Is there a scenario where they don’t take a quarterback? Who could they take later in the draft if they don’t like a quarterback at No. 2? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns face a big decision with the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft. First, do they want to take a quarterback there? Second, which quarterback do they want to take in that spot? Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe on Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast to look at the top two options in this year’s quarterback class, Miami’s Cam Ward and Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders. They go through both players and toss out one thing they like and one thing they don’t like about each player, trying to build a collective scouting report on each player. They also discuss some of the other quarterbacks they like in this class and what options the Browns could consider if they don’t pick a quarterback with the second pick. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are digging into the 2025 NFL Draft class and their special teams coordinator, Bubba Ventrone, is getting an up-close look at prospects this week at the Senior Bowl by serving as head coach of the American Team. What sort of advantage does it give the Browns that Ventrone is coaching this group and spending so much time around some of these players? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss Ventrone’s role and what the Browns can glean from him doing it on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about quarterbacks Jalen Milroe, Jaxson Dart and Dillon Gabriel and what Mary Kay is seeing in Mobile as she watches practice and participates in interviews with them. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns GM Andrew Berry said at the Senior Bowl on Tuesday that he wasn’t going to trade edge rusher Myles Garrett and is open to an extension of the team’s star edge rusher. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about Garrett’s future in Cleveland and if he could become the first non-quarterback to get a fully guaranteed deal and the case he could make to be that guy. They also discuss what the pitch to Garrett could have been to keep him happy and how the Browns will solve their quarterback problem to get Garrett to the Super Bowl. Lastly, they talk about Deion Sanders and why Berry was confident that he would be fine with his son, Shedeur, playing in Cleveland. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was a very Jalen Milroe day in NFL Draft discourse. The former Alabama quarterback earned a comparison to Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson and he spoke at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Mary Kay Cabot is in Mobile and she checked in with Dan Labbe on Monday night to talk Milroe and the Browns and what she learned on her first day at the draft’s first big event. Mary Kay and Dan discuss Milroe and if the Browns or another team will fall enough in love with him to do all the necessary things to make him their quarterback on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about former Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who was at East-West Shrine Game practices this weekend, and if the Browns would be willing to take on him and his dad, Deion. They wrap up by talking about Senior Bowl Executive Director Jim Nagy’s comments about this year’s quarterback class. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices