Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

NFL Draft season is about to kick into high gear and the Browns, who currently hold the No. 2 overall pick, will be front and center throughout the process as they try to solve their quarterback problem. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spent their last Orange and Brown Talk podcast of the week musing about the draft and what the Browns will do at quarterback. Is it a sure thing they’ll take a quarterback at No. 2 overall? What if they take Travis Hunter, like many mock drafts have them doing? What will free agency tell us about their plans? They discuss it all in their latest podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns introduced new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees on Thursday, but head coach Kevin Stefanski started the day by announcing he was taking back play-calling after giving it up midway through last season. Is taking it back the right move for Stefanski or should he let his new, young offensive coordinator handle the duties? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Stefanski’s decision to start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Then they move onto Rees' introductory press conference and get into why they think Stefanski made this move and what this means for the Browns at the quarterback position, especially as it pertains to the draft. They also talk a little about what’s leaking out regarding the draft and what they do and don’t believe. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will introduce new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees in a press conference on Wednesday. Rees was promoted from tight ends coach after Ken Dorsey was fired following a 3-14 season. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the Browns offense on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast and talk about the three things they hope to see from the offense in 2025 with Rees and head coach Kevin Stefanski at the helm. They get into the run game and improving the team’s rushing attack as well as figuring out how to cut down on turnovers, all while trying to create more explosive plays. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns have decisions to make at quarterback this offseason and the biggest one is how they will approach the position in the 2025 NFL Draft. With the No. 2 overall pick, they will have a shot at one of the Top 2 of Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders or they can maneuver around and find another quarterback. Is there a quarterback in this draft that can win in the NFL? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the top quarterbacks in the draft and what the Browns should do. They also talk about Sanders and how Deion Sanders' presence might impact the Browns' decision-making and other topics, including the most memorable quarterbacks the Browns have had since 1999. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns defense and kicking game in 2024 didn’t reach the level they achieved the previous season. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into pressing questions surrounding the Browns defense as they head into the offseason. The conversation begins with concerns about the kicking situation, particularly focusing on Dustin Hopkins and the need for a solid plan B. The discussion then shifts to the defensive side, highlighting the uncertainty surrounding Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah’s future and the implications for the linebacker position (6:49). The hosts also explore Myles Garrett’s contract situation and the importance of ensuring he remains a key part of the team moving forward. (12:37) Finally, they address the ongoing challenge of finding a complementary edge rusher to support Garrett’s efforts on the defensive line (24:31). Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns enter an offseason filled with questions on both sides of the football, ranging from the obvious quarterback situation to overall roster depth concerns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe launch a two-podcast series on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast examining the roster questions facing the Browns as they aim to rebound from a 3-14 season. They discuss the team’s approach to quarterback and potential moves at that position and others through free agency and the draft. They also discuss the state of the offensive line and look at the team’s pass-catchers to determine what the future is at wide receiver and tight end. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns have promoted Tommy Rees from tight ends coach to offensive coordinator. At age 32, he takes over one of the most important roles on the coaching staff as the Browns look to reset their quarterback room. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the decision to promote Rees and why head coach Kevin Stefanski decided to go in this direction. What do they expect from Rees in this new job? What was it about Rees that made him so intriguing to Stefanski? What does this mean for the future of the quarterback position? They get into all of it on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let’s be honest: everyone has quarterbacks on the brain when it comes to the Browns and this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast is no different. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the podcast, however, by talking offensive coordinator candidates and how this search could shake out. Then they dive into the Deshaun Watson situation and if there’s anything to the idea that the Browns could try and get some of the guaranteed money back if his re-rupture of his Achilles occurred while doing something he shouldn’t have been doing. There’s a draft, too, by the way, and the Browns have the No. 2 pick. Is there a quarterback worth taking No. 2 overall in this draft and do the Browns have to take a quarterback? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson re-ruptured his Achilles and underwent a second surgery on Thursday to repair it, all but taking him out of the quarterback picture for the Browns in 2025. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the latest developments with Watson and how this might change things for the Browns, if it changes anything at all. Does this create a sense of urgency in the draft for the Browns? Will they be more aggressive in going after a veteran option? What’s next for Watson? Then they talk about the Browns hosting a London game in 2025 by looking back at Mary Kay’s trip there to cover the team in 2017 and discussing where they would like to go cover a Browns game. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns search for a new offensive coordinator is fully underway, starting with their interview of their tight ends coach, Tommy Rees, and now plans to interview both Darrell Bevell and Charles London. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the coordinator search in the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, trying to decipher what the early names teach us about what head coach Kevin Stefanski is looking for in a replacement for Ken Dorsey. First, they talk about the hire of offensive line coach Mike Bloomgren and what it tells us that they were able to find Andy Dickerson’s replacement so quickly. They also discuss Catherine Hickman interviewing for the Titans GM job. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns quarterback room was headed for change already this season, but Deshaun Watson’s setback, which GM Andrew Berry announced on Monday, only reinforces the idea that the room will look completely different in 2025. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk quarterbacks on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by answering a question about how the Browns just now found out about Watson’s setback before they discuss all the ways the Browns could decide to attack the position this offseason. They also talk about Berry’s draft history and whether he can be trusted to get this draft right. They even get into Baker Mayfield leading Tampa Bay to the playoffs and why he was able to do it. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson suffered a setback in his recovery from his ruptured Achilles and, regardless of what the team’s plans were for him before this, it feels like this is a significant moment in his future with the team. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Watson’s future following this revelation from GM Andrew Berry’s end-of-season press conference. Does this change anything for the Browns moving forward? What will happen with Watson now? Then they get into what Berry said about running back Nick Chubb and if it’s possible he might not be back next season. Is there a price and a role for him that could keep him in a Browns uniform? Lastly, they talk Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and the mystery surrounding his status for next season. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are seeking a new identity and the pieces are in place for them to find it after two big events on Sunday. First, they fired offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, opening the door for them to return to a familiar identity while also trying to find someone who can help them remake their offense and quarterback room this offseason. The other development is they landed the No. 2 pick in the draft after the Patriots beat the Bills on Sunday. This sets up the opportunity to either pick a quarterback or take someone who can help their quarterback succeed. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recap the entire day in Berea on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about potentially going back to a familiar scheme and if they should before they talk about the approach at quarterback and if they have to take one at No. 2. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will start Bailey Zappe on Saturday afternoon against the Ravens in the final game of the season. Dorian Thompson-Robinson is also expected to play in the game. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the Browns' decision to start Zappe and what they expect from him. They also talk about the jostling for draft position and where the Browns stand with one game left. Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Are the Ravens any different from the first time these teams played? What can the Browns do to try slowing down Lamar Jackson? Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns could start either Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe on Saturday against the Ravens, and head coach Kevin Stefanski left the door open to play both in the team's season finale at M&T Bank Stadium. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the quarterback decision and if it matters. Then they talk about wide receiver Cedric Tillman going on injured reserve and how it adds another layer of difficulty to building the roster for next season. They even try to name all 39 quarterbacks who have started for the Browns since 1999. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at the film from Sunday's loss to the Dolphins. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns restructured Deshaun Watson’s contract once again on Friday, opening up a future exit strategy from the $230 million fully guaranteed contract they gave him in 2022. It also means he’s sticking around for at least another season. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the potential of Watson playing for the Browns on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss why it’s not a crazy thought to think that he couldn’t end up back on the field in a Browns uniform and not just disappear quietly into the night. They also talk about the Browns draft plans and the state of the roster as the season comes to a close. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns lost their home finale of the 2024 season on Sunday, bowing to the Miami Dolphins, 20-3, at Huntington Bank Field. The Browns fell to 3-13 and will wrap up their 2024 campaign next Sunday in Baltimore. That means the Browns draft position improved and they could find themselves in a position to draft a new quarterback. In this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down dig into how the Browns should approach things if they do end up landing a Top 3 pick in the draft. Is it quarterback or bust? Is there a reason to pass on a quarterback if one is available? What does it mean that they have stumbled into a potential franchise-altering pick all of a sudden? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns return home for their final home game of the season, hosting the Miami Dolphins, who might be fighting for their playoff lives when they arrive — depending on what happens on Saturday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about left guard Joel Bitonio’s comments about his future and what he’s considering as he thinks about retiring or coming back after this season. Then they talk about the Dolphins and what they’re bringing to Cleveland on Sunday. Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Is Miami’s offense as dangerous as it was a year ago? How does the Browns' defense match up? What makes Miami’s defense successful? Lance also makes his pick for the game. Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s a Christmas Day edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, so we’re putting some of the Browns talk aside and we’re talking Christmas. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by going over some of their favorite Christmas things. They talk about their favorite movies, favorite songs, favorite tradition, favorite aesthetic and their Christmas hot takes. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at what he saw on the film when he studied the Browns' 24-6 loss to the Bengals. Then Lance and Dan do a draft of Christmas movies, coming up with their favorites and must watch movies. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns came into this season with high expectations and, instead, are going to leave it with a high draft pick. It has raised questions about the state of the roster and what they need to do this offseason to fix everything that went wrong. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe take the topic head-on during Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by talking about Dorian Thompson-Robinson and why Kevin Stefanski is starting him again. Then they dive into how they would approach this offseason. Is tanking the right move? Do they need a complete teardown of the roster to build it back up? Can they be title contenders next season? Is a soft reset more appropriate? They discuss it all. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns lost to the Bengals on Sunday, 24-6, but Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are more focused on what pass rusher Myles Garrett had to say on Friday and what he added to those comments on Sunday, even after he passed the 100 career sack mark. That’s where they start their postgame Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast. Are they surprised fans are siding more with Garrett after he voiced his displeasure? What does it say about the approval rating of the organization that they are so readily siding with Garrett? What does that all mean as far as the potential of postseason changes and if it could spur change? They also spend a little time on the loss, including the play of quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are on to Cincinnati this week, traveling south to face the Bengals for the second time this season. Cincinnati is clinging to faint playoff hopes and the Browns hope to dash them with an upset on Sunday. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-11 Browns try to play spoiler in another AFC North matchup. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What is allowing Joe Burrow to have so much success this season? How can the Browns slow the Bengals passing attack? What about that shaky Bengals defense? Lance also makes his pick for the game. Finally, Ashley joins Mary Kay and Dan to wrap up the podcast with their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will be in the quarterback market this offseason and we’re still waiting for the full market to take shape, but one domino fell this week when Atlanta benched Kirk Cousins in favor of rookie Michael Penix Jr. Cousins has a history with Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski, so should there be at least some interest in facilitating a reunion between the two? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Dorian Thompson-Robinson taking over as Browns starter but then they pivot to Cousins. Is Cousins done or can the Browns revive him? Is he too old for them to look at as a starter for next season? What factors do they need to consider on their roster next year and beyond? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are making the switch to quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson, benching Jameis Winston after he threw three more interceptions on Sunday in a loss to the Chiefs. Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock start Wednesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision to switch to Thompson-Robinson and what to expect from the second-year signal caller as he takes over for Winston. Then Lance Reisland joins the pod to talk about the switch and what he saw when he watched the film of the loss to the Chiefs. Lance and Dan talk about the play of Jerry Jeudy, the run game, the defense and more. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and head coach Kevin Stefanski will make a quarterback decision later this week, either sticking with Jameis Winston or replacing him with Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision and whether there’s a legitimate case for sticking with Winston as the starter after he threw three more interceptions on Sunday. They also get into the future of Nick Chubb after he suffered another season-ending injury against the Chiefs and if the Browns should bring him back. And they talk about Mary Kay’s report over the weekend that Deshaun Watson will be back with the Browns next season. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns fell to 3-11 on Sunday with their 21-7 loss to the Chiefs, who are now 13-1 and still hold the No. 1 playoff seed in the AFC. Now the Browns face a decision at quarterback after head coach Kevin Stefanski benched Jameis Winston in favor of Dorian Thompson-Robinson in the fourth quarter. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down all the machinations of a potential quarterback change in their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also discuss another season-ending injury for running back Nick Chubb and where they go from here with him and do a vibe check after a brutal football game all around on Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are out of the playoff chase but they can still play spoiler the rest of the way, something they will try to do Sunday against the Chiefs, who come to Huntington Bank Field with a 12-1 record and a two-game lead over the Bills for the No. 1 seed in the AFC. First, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to Browns owner Jimmy Haslam offering his support to GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski. Could that change between now and the end of the season? Will there be other changes? They they transition into their normal preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-10 Browns try to upset the two-time defending Super Bowl champions. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. How are the Chiefs winning all these close games? How good is the Chiefs defense? Outside of Patrick Mahomes, what is the most worrisome thing about their offense? Lance also makes his pick for the game. Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are hosting Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field and it’s a reminder about the 2017 draft. The Browns, of course, picked Myles Garrett No. 1 overall and he’s on his way to the Hall of Fame but what if they had drafted Mahomes? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the vibes around the team before they pivot to Mahomes. Of all the teams that passed on Mahomes, the Browns came out the best as far as the player they picked, but what if they had picked him. Would he still become the player we know now? What lesson can the Browns learn from that draft and the Chiefs' pursuit of Mahomes and what the Browns didn’t see that year that Kansas City did. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are preparing to host the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday and it has Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe thinking about all kinds of things. They get into all of it on the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, starting with what they expect from Jameis Winston the rest of the way as the Browns starter. Then Ashley makes the case for why it matters if Taylor Swift will be in attendance at Huntington Bank Field or not on Sunday before Mary Kay and Dan talk about Deshaun Watson's rehab and his future with the Browns, if there even is one. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on the tape from the Browns 27-14 loss to the Steelers on Sunday in Pittsburgh before he and Dan talk about their favorite pizza places in the Akron and Cleveland areas. Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns were officially eliminated from the playoffs on Sunday in their 27-14 loss to the Steelers and it made some wonder if they might decide to start looking at some younger players, including backup quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson. That’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the Tuesday Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, featuring questions from our Football Insider subscribers. Should the Browns hand things over to Thompson-Robinson and, if not, why? Are Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry safe and could things change over the last month of the season? Would Baker Mayfield have been able to be the player he is in Tampa Bay if he stayed with the Browns? They cover all that ground in the latest edition of the podcast. Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns quarterback Jameis Winston threw two more interceptions in Sunday’s loss to the Steelers and that’s where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast. Should the Browns continue with Winston the rest of the season or try to take a look at Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe? What is the benefit of sticking with Winston for the final four games — or at least next week against Kansas City? They also talk about kicker Dustin Hopkins, who missed two more field goals on Sunday. Why did the Browns rush an extension on Hopkins? What do they do about Hopkins moving forward? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will try to pull off a rare sweep of the Steelers, heading to Pittsburgh for a rematch after beating the Steelers in Cleveland two Thursdays ago. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-9 Browns try to play spoiler in another AFC North matchup. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Why did the Steelers struggle so much with Myles Garrett? What did we learn about them in that Thursday night game? Just how much of a factor was the weather? Lance also makes his pick for the game. Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are back from Denver and will take on the Steelers on Sunday, but our Football Insider subscribers are thinking big picture on this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions about the quarterback position, the state of the roster and more. They start by getting into finding the right fit at quarterback, whether that’s someone who fits what Kevin Stefanski likes to run more traditionally or if they will bring in a quarterback who requires more of an adjustment. They also talk about the state of the roster. Are the Browns a bad team or are they a good team with a bad record? Then they spend time talking about Jameis Winston and his leadership style and why it’s working. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was the full Jameis Winston experience once again in a Browns loss to the Broncos on Monday Night Football. Winston set a team record and threw for a career-high 496 yards but also threw three interceptions, including two pick-sixes. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Winston and if Monday’s game should pump the brakes on Winston’s future with Cleveland beyond this season. How do you balance the yardage with the turnovers? Should the Browns consider looking at Dorian Thompson-Robinson now that their season is essentially over? They also talk about Jerry Jeudy’s career night and how he’s played over the last month, establishing himself as the team’s top receiver and how the Browns were able to unlock Jeudy. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns hit the road for a second consecutive prime-time game in front of a national TV audience on Monday Night Football. They play the Broncos in Denver. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-8 Browns try to win two in a row for the first time this season against a Broncos team fighting for a wild card spot. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What makes Denver’s defense so good? Is Bo Nix playing as well as the hype machine is making him out to be right now? Then Lance makes his pick for the game. Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Thursday night. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns quarterback Jameis Winston has captured the imagination of the Browns fan base with his play on the field and what he's provided the team off the field. It has been a perfect fit for a team out of playoff contention and well on its way to another disappointing season. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this Thanksgiving Day edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Winston's presence and why it matters in this moment and what it means for the future. They also talk about wide receiver Cedric Tillman and the importance of getting him back on the field ASAP to see how he fits with the Browns longterm. Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on film in the Thursday night win over the Steelers, including how the Browns and right tackle Jack Conklin shut out T.J. Watt, Winston's performance in the game and then he and Dan do a draft of overrated Thanksgiving foods. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett made a big statement against the Steelers on Thursday Night Football and is back in the discussion for NFL Defensive Player of the Year after collecting three sacks in the first half. He now has six in the last three games and is at 10 for the season. Will he repeat as the league’s top defender? That’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast featuring questions from our Football Insider subscribers. They discuss how Hard Knocks will help Garrett and why performing like he did on national TV was important. Then they get into what the Browns record would be if Jameis Winston had started from Week 1 before answering questions about offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and special teams coordinator Bubba Ventrone. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are heading to Denver for Monday Night Football and have a long Thanksgiving week ahead as they prepare to face the Broncos. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the receiving corps, beginning with Cedric Tillman who opens the week in the concussion protocol and why getting him on the field as much as possible for the final six weeks is important. They also talk about Jerry Jeudy, who is finding a rhythm with quarterback Jameis Winston and if we’ve spent enough time talking about Jeudy and how well he’s playing. Then they discuss safety Juan Thornhill and his reaction to the criticism he faced after the New Orleans game and how he responded against the Steelers. Then they update the fight between cornerback Greg Newsome II and Steelers wide receiver George Pickens after the final play and the fallout from that. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns upset the Steelers on Thursday Night Football at Huntington Bank Field and are riding high after a 24-19 victory. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through the individuals who helped the Browns win a dramatic, snowy game on their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about the performance of quarterback Jameis Winston and whether he could be a longterm option for this team, or at least a realistic option for next season. They discuss Myles Garrett and if he’s established himself as the favorite for Defensive Player of the Year after a three-sack performance. Then they get into the play of Nick Chubb, Jack Conklin and the feud between Steelers receiver George Pickens and Browns cornerback Greg Newsome II. They also spend a little time lamenting the potential death of snow games in Cleveland if a dome gets built. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns return home this week to host the Pittsburgh Steelers in front of a national TV audience on Thursday Night Football. It’s their first matchup againt the Steelers this season. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 2-8 Browns try to play spoiler against the AFC North-leading Steelers. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What makes Pittsburgh’s defense so dangerous? How does Russell Wilson look in this offense? Then Lance makes his pick for the game. Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Thursday night. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett took the opportunity on Tuesday to discuss how he felt about T.J. Watt’s and J.J. Watt’s reaction to his first Defensive Player of the Year award last year. It was interesting he decided to address it, even if it was partially in jest. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about Garrett’s comments and why they think he decided to engage in questions about how he felt about what the Watts said after he won the award. They also discuss the tackle situation as the Browns are trying to figure out a way to replace Dawand Jones, who went on IR after suffering a season-ending injury on Sunday in New Orleans. Then they talk about head coach Kevin Stefanski and how he’s handling rumors about his future and his job security. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns host the Steelers on Thursday Night Football and we’ve seen what the Steelers can do to a Browns team that’s reeling. Would a poor performance on Thursday, coupled with a stadium full of Steelers fans, prompt Jimmy Haslam to make a rash decision on Friday? That’s one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss during Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also discuss whether head coach Kevin Stefanski or GM Andrew Berry deserves more blame for what has happened this season. Then they get into whether Dorian Thompson-Robinson should be playing instead of Jameis Winston and if the Browns could work out a deal to make sure Nick Chubb is back next season. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns lost for the seventh time in the last eight games and fell to 2-8 on the season after an embarrassing defeat at the hands of the Saints. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the state of the team after another loss on their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about if a loss like this — and if another one on Thursday — is the type of loss that can prompt big changes for an organization and how much longer they can keep with the current approach. They also talk about the play of Jameis Winston and why he’s the right quarterback to lead this team through the remainder of the season. Lastly, they look at left tackle now that Dawand Jones is out for the year and what the Browns will do to protect Winston’s blindside. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns come off their bye week and hit the road for the first time in a month, traveling to New Orleans to take on the Saints. It’s a homecoming of sorts for Jameis Winston, who spent four years with the Saints before signing with the Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Friday Browns preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 2-7 Browns try to start the second half of their season with a win over the 3-7 Saints. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What problems does Saints offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak’s scheme present? How vulnerable is the Saints defense? Then Lance makes his pick for the game. Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson‘s season is over and his time with the team could be over, too. What did cleveland.com‘s film expert Lance Reisland see when he watched all of Watson’s snaps? Lance joined the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Thursday to go through what he saw when he watched Watson and why it didn’t work. How much was scheme? How much was the talent around him? How much was just him not being the player he was? Before Lance joined the podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the news of the day, going through Kevin Stefanski‘s response to Jedrick Wills Jr.’s comments, Jameis Winston returning to New Orleans and Jordan Hicks' comments about Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are once again facing changes this offseason after getting off to a 2-7 start, raising questions about the future of the organization across the board. One of the people who could come under fire is offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, who was brought here to help revive Deshaun Watson‘s career but didn’t take over play-calling until after Watson was lost for the season. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our Football Insider subscribers on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, starting with Dorsey‘s future and what factors will play into whether he’s here beyond this season or not. They also talk about the future at quarterback and how they will approach the position, the futures of head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry and how Mike Vrabel and Paul DePodesta factor into the organization’s decision-making. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns left tackle Jedrick Wills Jr. outlined on Monday the events that led to him losing his job to Dawand Jones and said he made a “business decision” prior to the Browns' win over the Ravens. There were already questions about Wills' future here, but his comments only put more of a spotlight on what it looks like for GM Andrew Berry’s first draft pick. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed Wills' comments on Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what it means for Wills in the longterm, either here or elsewhere. They also talk about what the status of Wills means for the Browns moving forward and what it says about Berry and his future as the person responsible for picking this roster — if he is the person picking the roster. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns GM Andrew Berry held his bye week press conference on Sunday and offered few clues as to what the Browns will do this offseason with quarterback Deshaun Watson. That doesn't mean that Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe weren't going to go sleuthing through what he said. Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast starts with the three of them discussing what Berry said about his quarterback and Watson's future with the team and if he gave any indication about what it could look either keeping Watson or moving on from him. Then they talk about what Berry said about Kevin Stefanski and the tackle situation. Lance Reisland joins the pod in the second half to talk about what went wrong on the blown coverages against the Chargers, why Jameis Winston struggled and why the run game can't get going before he asks his question of the week and they do an impromptu Halloween candy draft. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A quiet trade deadline passed for the Browns on Tuesday, featuring the trading away of Za'Darius Smith and the release of Quinton Jefferson. Now it's on to the final eight weeks of the season and playing out the remainder of the year before they have to make difficult decisions. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together shortly after the expiration of the deadline on Tuesday and talked about the move to deal Smith and if it was the right thing to do and if the Browns got enough. Then they went deeper on the state of the roster and what comes next. There's some sort of reset coming, but how long of a detour will the Browns need to take before they can think about trying to win a championship again? What will they do at the quarterback position? Could they move some of their stars in the offseason? They also look around the AFC North at what the other teams did as they try to push to make the postseason. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns season is essentially over after they lost to the Chargers to drop to 2-7 and eyes are fully on the future. It‘s no surprise our Football Insider text subscribers want to know what’s next for the Browns and if all the current pieces will remain in place moving forward or if there could be big changes on the horizon. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from subscribers about the futures of head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry and what factors will go into determining them as the rest of this season plays out on Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about the future of the quarterback position, how it impacts all the other decisions they have to make and they take a look at one very big decision the Browns made on Monday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices