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Rob and Pip grab a bunch of friends and catch up during this years' FDIC in Indy.

Jeremy and Sam from HiViz Lighting catch up in the podcast booth during FDIC 2023.

@foodonthestovedc Second generation Washington DC firefighter Jonathan Tate wanted to give back to the fire service. As a child he saw the impact his father was able to make not only on the job, but on the community he grew up in. Food is a cultural staple within the fire service. Jonathan saw a need to educate firefighters on the importance of healthy eating. Starting the not for profit Food on the Stove as a passion project within his department. Pip and Jonathan talk about his life, healthy eating, pensions , and his upcoming conference International Firefighters Weekend in DC. This is a must listen episode for everyone. Jonathan’s “Crayon Level” teaching style when it comes to nutrition is a lesson everyone needs to hear. Healthy eating is just another aspect to think about when we ask ourselves that question, What’s My Size Up????

Today Rob sits down with Peter Volkmann to talk about CISM, mental health, and how first responders of today are tackling mental health as a whole. Pete was also Rob's initial trainer for in CISM when he joined the Hudson Valley Critical Incident Debriefing Team.

Episode 213. Walt Lewis by Jeremy Donch

Episode 212. Kestin Wiemer by Jeremy Donch

Episode 14 of The Size Up by National Fire Radio was sponsored by Mercedes Textiles. They want to know, just how often you CHECK YOUR EQUIPMENT. Now, being a hose manufacturer , you may think they mean the equipment on your apparatus, but they aren’t talking about that equipment. They mean YOUR EQUIPMENT. April is Testicular Cancer Awareness Month, and Merecedes has partnered with the not for profit DETECT TOGETHER.

Jason Messerschmidt, Director of North American Sales for Teledyne FLIR joins Jeremy for an active discussion about thermal imaging and Teledyne FLIR’s commitment to the fire service. Celebrating their 10th anniversary of their popular K series thermal imaging camera, Teledyne FLIR proudly boasts that they are the inventors of thermal imaging. Through advancement in technology, they have been able to make thermal imaging cameras available for all positions on the fire ground. Situational cameras for condition monitoring and tactical cameras that can be utilized for more advanced decision making, Teledyne FLIR has a camera for your needs. Their continued push to drive down costs while manufacturing better technology is at the core of their mission. Combining a traditional mindset with the latest advancement in technology allows for a more efficient and effective firefighter. Teledyne FLIR is committed to the fire service by providing the very best products while ensuring education and training remain at the forefront of practical application. Changing the game and pushing the job forward will continue to fuel Teledyne FLIR’s drive to ensure the best possible equipment for today’s fire service.

Andy Plofkin enjoys his life. His no excuse love for the fire service has created so many incredible experiences along his journey. From his early childhood days of watching and wanting to emulate those who served with his family in the fire department, Andy knew he had a long road ahead of influencing in the fire service. His influence comes in the form of over 40 years serving as a firefighter as well as working in the industry for over 30 years. Currently working as the Director of North American Regional Sales for Safefleet, the company that owns such popular brands such as Elkhart Brass, FoamPro, FRC and Rom, Andy travels half the year educating and supporting the fire service. His connections are vast and his reach is immense. When he's not teaching, making connections or closing a deal, he enjoys life by the lake and takes time to think about the fortune he has had along the way. Proud to be a fire buff and the heritage from which he came, he proudly talks about his family and the guys he still rides with at the local volunteer firehouse. Andy Plofkin has immense joy looking back on his years traversing this nation educating and talking fire. There's nothing better than that... or perhaps, there is. The perfect Old Fashioned. He has had plenty of years to perfect his pour and he is willing to share his secret so that other can enjoy the delicious brown cocktail that he so eloquently talks about.

"Everything Matters" is the underlying theme of Brandon Lewis' life. He'll tell you alot of luck played a part in his career and the fortunate events that have led him to where he is today. But after getting to know him, one thing is for certain; he has created alot of his own luck. Opportunity can be found but you have to put in the hard work, have the passion to pursue it and then know when to execute on it. Brandon has that flare about him. Leaving home and chasing fires, Brandon found himself in a new place and it was his mission to become grounded there and to be the best he could be. Finding strong mentors and his willingness to learn, Brandon has found himself the opportunities he had been looking for. Now a Lieutenant at Co. 14 in Atlanta, GA, his move from the backseat to the front seat has not been without plenty of learning along the way. "Trust the Process" and your "Sphere of Influence" are two things that continues to push Brandon to be better. His endless laughter and constant smile reaffirms his love of the job. Being apart of the Fire Life Training team and teaching others around him has pushed him to continue his learning as well. He is a constant student and someone who has plenty more to give back to the fire service. Brandon Lewis is an infectious person with his love and passion, not just for the fire service but the people he surrounds himself with. "Everything Matters" to Brandon and it should... it has made him the person he is!! Well done brother!!

10 year Philadelphia firefighter Dave Weinman wanted one thing early on in his career, more fires. "Trying to find more fires" was something Dave wanted so that he could be the firefighter he always wanted to be. Landing at Ladder 13 on the west side of Philadelphia is home for Dave and he hopes to stay there until the day he walks out on his terms. Mentors early in his career coupled with his own pursuit of "Pride and Ownership" set the stage for his tinkering with tools and equipment. Always being hyper focused on whatever he set his mind to, Dave continued to learn the tools of the trade in addition to finding it as a way to learn something new. From there, he taught himself how to renovate his home, restore old infrastructure and frankly, became a jack of all trades. Realizing his passion for the restoration industry, he began his own YouTube channel, "Parts and Restoration", on the advise of his brothers in the firehouse. From there, this father of two became successful in the space and was soon being part of a television series on the History channel, "Secret Restoration". Dave credits his all of this to his hard work and his willingness to fail. "We cannot ignore our mistakes" is something Dave is adamant about. It's a part of life and certainly apart of being a firefighter. Dave Weinman is exactly who he is and he doesn't want to be anything else. Things become really good when you become content and happy with who you are as a person. Dave has an incredible future ahead while he continues on his life's journey of being the guy he chooses to be. -- Check out Dave Weinman's YouTube channel, "Parts and Restoration".

With 756 podcast’s under his belt, James Geering is what we may describe as a serious podcaster. Pip was stoked to be able to interview him, being that Pip has been a guest on the Behind the Shield Podcast , not once, not twice, but three times. James and Pip spend their time talking about the vast array of guests he has had the privilege of interviewing and learning from. Hence the title of this episode , The Perpetual Student. James speaks of his goals for himself, the podcast and his listeners. As well as some of the issues that are currently plaguing Emergency Service providers worldwide. We highly recommend adding Behind the Shield to your current podcast rotation, or you can literally pick through past episodes if you are looking for more information on a specific topic. James is also an author, his book, One More Light can be found on his website or Amazon. IG:@behindtheshield Website. www.jamesgeering.com

Throw back episode of the The Coffee Table Podcast that debuted in 2021.

206. Alabama Firefighters Training Foundation by Jeremy Donch

Master Firefighter and Paramedic Kris Ussery is currently assigned to the Training Division of the Virginia Beach, VA Fire Department. In this position she has become the mentor and leader of the Fire Cadet program that embraces kids between 14-18 years of age and teaches them about the fire service. Kris' dedication to this group is evident by the incredible growth that has occurred over the last few years. From 8 kids when she took over the program to over 30 today, the growth can be attributed to word of mouth by their cadets. She treats the cadets like other fire department personnel, putting them through the same processes and holding them to a high level of trust and respect. By making the experience real, it gives the cadets a sense of ownership and pride. The power of this program can certainly set these kids up for success. Teaching them necessary life skills and holding them to a high standard will help throughout their lives, regardless of if they enter the emergency services. But wouldn't it be incredible if these kids find themselves being hired by the Virginia Beach, VA Fire Department?? Kris believes that this program can be a pipeline of educating potential candidates for later on in their journey. To get buy in at those early years will certainly set the department up for future success. Kris Ussery is committed to the program by mentoring her "Fire Nerds" and building the relationship between the department and its' future.

Mike France is the President of the MacBoston 18 Truck Organization which is a 501c3 not for profit group that recognizes our fallen. Serving as a moving memorial for LODD firefighters in New York state, the MacBoston TDA is named after its' origins, the city of Boston and after fallen comrade Paul MacMurray of Hudson Falls, NY. The initial intent of the TDA was to be a fun activity for a group of friends but it quickly became much more than that. Today, the MacBoston 18 Truck organization holds training events, attends wakes and funerals as well as tours the state of New York celebrating the lives of our fallen. Mike France is at the helm of this great organization and he credits their success to all of the supporters of their group. Recognizing those who laid their lives down on the job will always be the main focus of their organization. They will continue to keep their memories alive through education and public awareness. -- Check out www.macboston.com for more information regarding the MacBoston 18 Truck Organization.

Are you Consistently Savage? Sarah Ray aka The Shrinking Savage is living proof that you can be. Pip and Sarah talk about her weight loss journey, which began when she put being a volunteer firefighter on a temporary hold. Sarah talks about how consistently being consistent with her healthy habits keeps her on track and moving forward. What started as an online journal of her journey for herself has grown into something much much more. Sarah’s IG and Tick Toc page has become a source of inspiration for many, of course she has picked up some haters along the way but as she said. If one post helps one person, that’s all that matters. We talk about her bariatric surgery, her job as a dispatcher, running lots of miles and inspiring strangers. Sarah never set out to inspire folks, but she has and plans to continue to do so. This episode will definitely inspire you and make you ask yourself the question, What’s my Size Up??? IG:Shrinking_savage_ TikTok: sarahray90

Retired Fire Captain Bill Lavin hasn't slowed down his continuous efforts in public service since 2014. 26 years with the Elizabeth, NJ Fire Department, 11 years as the Local President and another 16 years as the Statewide Local President, Bill always fought for what is right and deserved. Maybe to his detriment, he takes everything personal. Witnessing tragedy during his tenure led Bill to believe he wanted to do more in giving back as another way to offer public service. Hurricane Katrina, September 11, 2001 and the Sandy Hook school shooting were events that shook Bill Lavin and he wanted to do more. Bill found Where Angels Play, a not for profit foundation that builds playgrounds for those lost during tragedy. Triumph over tragedy is important to Bill and the foundation. Surrounded by hard working volunteers, their foundation has built over 60 playgrounds memorializing these innocent lives lost. Their foundation is not stopping any time soon. As terrible as tragedy is, foundations like Where Angels Play can offer so much for the families and the people involved in the process. This powerful group is making a difference just like firefighters, running towards the tragedy and trying to make a best scenario outcome for all involved. Bill Lavin's passion for the process and love for the families and victims is second to none. He speaks from the heart and the success of this foundation is for one main reason, he takes everything personal. Please visit www.whereangelsplayfoundation.org for more information. The foundation is always looking for volunteers, vendors to offer support and monetary donations. Corporate sponsors play a large role in the process as well and shout outs to Jersey Mikes, Home Depot, Old Castle and Campbell Supply.

With almost 40 years in the fire service, Aaron Heller has accomplished alot. Recently retiring as a Deputy Chief with the Hamilton Township, NJ Fire Department, Aaron knew the time was right. Being apart of a large scale consolidation of 9 fire departments into one, Aaron felt the time was right after some of the dust settled to hang up his duty radio and begin to focus on the other parts of his life. Leaving the job doesn't mean that he is walking away for the fire service. Not even close. Aaron is working harder today on behalf of the fire service with his training company, On-Scene Training Associates. His Instructor staff is broad and they cover many different disciplines in the fire service. A cadre of experienced firefighters, his staff is located across the country and are always busy pushing the job forward on the training grounds. "The harder you work, the lucky you get" was mentioned during the episode. Hard work is persistence, and persistence allows for more opportunity. Aaron Heller continues to make his own luck by constantly grinding and sharing his experience and knowledge of the job. Though retired, Aaron is not slowing anytime soon.

Recently, Jeremy hosted a roundtable discussion in New London, CT with Captain Nick Esposito. Bridgeport, CT and Lt. Mickey Farrell, FDNY. Titled, Experience Matters, this roundtable was a fund raiser for the New London, CT Burn Foundation. Both speakers have successful social media pages; Nick Esposito is the man behind @truck_tactics and Mickey Farrell runs @topfloortactics. Both knowledgeable pages that share their experiences from the streets of their cities.

Brockton, MA has one of their own at the helm of their Fire Department. Chief of Department Brian Nardelli is homegrown on the streets of Brockton. He grew up there and he lives there today. The town has changed some but his love for it has never wavered. Brian has an infectious way about him. His demeanor is consuming and his presence is felt. He is passionate about the fire service but more importantly, he recognizes those who he serves; both the community and his firefighters. Proud of his city and department, this straight talking Chief believes in the importance of knowing our past. Without knowing the foundation for which the department was built, it is hard to steer it into the future. Brian admits he's at the helm, however, he credits all the success on his people. They are the reason for which Brian enjoys going to work each day. At a recent fire, Chief Nardelli speaks to the news agencies about the tough work his firefighters faced and explained the monumental task of removing victims over ground ladders. He focused on his people the entire time making sure the public they serve understands the significance of their accomplishments. The fire service would be in a much better place if more Chiefs followed in Brian Nardelli's footsteps. If you're not pushing this job forward, it's time to go. Brian is truly enjoying his time and position. He continues to walk the training grounds, learn new things and meet new people. Staying in touch and making sure he gets out of his office will continue to ground him and his responsibilities. Chief Brian Nardelli certainly appreciates his people and lets his people work. Brockton, MA Fire Department is in a great place with Chief Nardelli at the helm. Well done Chief!!

Welcome Back!!!! After a longer than expected hiatus, The Size Up by National Fire Radio is returning to the podcast world. Pip decided to start the reboot just like he started the original. Jeremy, from National Fire Radio joins Pip for this week's chat. And boy does he chat, and chat and chat. Jeremy, From National Fire Radio breaks down a bit about his past 5 years and our plan for this podcast. Then we just start to have one of our normal conversations, which as we hang up, we always say, we should have recorded this for the podcast. Although Jeremy isn’t used to being “the guest” he does a great job of taking a step back as he talks about his personal life. This conversation is surely one for the books, as Pip and Jeremy talk about their childhoods, their careers and families. Parenting, Podcasting and Friendship are all included in this look behind The National Fire Radio curtain.

What do you want to be when you grow up?? This all to common question we ask children certainly didn't trip up Bo Yelich when he was little. From very early on, he was immersed into the fire service by his mother and father. "It's Mom's fault", says Bo. "She's the one who brought me down to the firehouse when dad was working." Watching his father work the firehouse and command the fire ground, Bo knew he was going to follow in his footsteps. Being a generational firefighter sure has its' challenges though. Walking in the shadows of his father, Bo had to find his own way and make a name for himself. Growing up during that time, it's the "Sons and Dads Generation", where the sons want to be their dads. Finding his way through some busy departments in the South, Bo gained plenty of experience early on in his career. Finding himself in the 10-20 year position, there are plenty of times where he is the front man for the younger, hungry firefighters as well as acting up when called upon to do so. Bo Yelich loves the job and has from the day he was born. Crafting his own narrative and finding his own way on the fire ground continues to fuel his need to be the best he can be. He loves to talk about the job but more importantly, he loves to do the job!!

Leading Firefighter Gerard Mann of Fire Rescue Victoria , Australia, is always on the hunt for new "mates". He finds himself looking for similar people who love the job as much as he does. Working as a firefighter for 11 years, Gerard has come to know one thing for sure; firefighters are the same across all borders. Presented with challenges within his urban center, Gerard went all in on learning high-rise strategies and tactics. This need for knowledge and experience led him to find other firefighters globally who could help him design and develop plans for the growing cities in Australia. Gerard fell in love with the complexity of the fire which kept him pressing forward. Firefighting knows no boundaries and now Gerard teaches internationally as well as at FDIC. His attitude and demeanor is infectious and he genuinely buys into people. "I need more friends" is the prefect title for this episode because he truly wants to shake hands and hug everyone he meets. This episode is packed with great stuff and we only scratched the surface with Gerard. Get ready for the continuation episode in the next few weeks!!

Rob and jeremy catch up after two strong conference weekends. Jeremy attended the New England FOOLS conference in Maine while Rob attended the Lt. Joseph P. DiBernardo Foundation training weekend in Texas.

Retiring as a Deputy Chief with the Syracuse, NY Fire Department, John Kane hopped right into teaching after his retirement. Many find themselves touring the region or even nationally speaking about the job and educating students who are hungry to learn. But John didn't have to look far to begin his teaching career. Instead teaching hungry firefighters across the country, John went to work as an Assistant Professor and Program Coordinator for the Fire Protection Technology Degree program at the SUNY Onondaga Community College. This two year Associate's Degree program teaches students the ins and outs of public service. Geared towards firefighting, this program is offering a wide array of classes as well as hands on training to students who want to pursue public service in their future. The program is ever evolving, using subject matter expects as adjunct professors who bring a sense of experience and knowledge with them while teaching our up and coming firefighters. The perfect balance of theory, application and experience has allowed this program to flourish over the years. John is a part of the programs 40 year history that boasts over 80% of graduates going to a job in the public service sector. A rich history that also includes the ability to be a student firefighter so that the student can become totally immersed in the firefighting community. John's hard work and dedication to the program has helped it grow while creating a strong base for future students. As the job changes, so does the type of candidates we are actively looking for. Education is important to the job and being able to help shape future generations by providing a thriving place to learn and operate will create the successful path everyone wants in a fire service career. John Kane is helping ensure that the future of the fire service is in a good place.

Reboot episode with Rob and Jeremy.

Matt and Steve of the Primary Complete podcast finally sit down with Jeremy and talk shop. These two hard chargers wanted to create the podcast as a way of giving back and connecting with the job. Dedicated to the pushing the job forward, their podcast talks shop but it also explores life outside the job. From their studio in NC, these two are genuinely interested in their guests and their stories. We all have alot to learn and everyone can share a story that resonates with each one of us. Their mission is clear - engage people and enjoy your time with those around you. BUT, their fortitude is clear... we must hold the line when it comes to the job and the people we serve. It's not all sunshine and rainbows and this episode winds through many different conversations that paint a realistic picture of today's fire service and society in general. Not afraid to have the discussions, Matt and Steve are poised to do great things with the Primary Complete podcast. Check them out!! --- www.https://www.primarycompletepodcast.com/

A "Jersey Guy", John Lewis was all in from an early age. Emulating his Father and older Brother, John knew he wanted to be a firefighter. Joining the volunteer department at an early age set the stage for his love of the job. Soon after, John was hired in a small department in NJ where he was exposed to plenty of work. Many memorable jobs were made but one in particular still stands out. John was caught in a flashover while trying to rescue a civilian during a structural fire. As his gear caught fire, John had to bail out leaving the victim behind. A difficult decision that could've been life ending for himself as well. Learning how to cope with this was certainly a challenging part of the job. An important leader at the time pushed John to teach and talk about his experience. As he became more comfortable with speaking and sharing, the training route became easier. Changing departments due to layoffs, John now found himself in an urban department and promoting upward. His experiences were put to the test when his own department suffered a LODD and his know how and experience helped the department at their lowest time. John's influence and organic love for the fire service made him relatable to both the young and old and his demeanor made him a standout to many entry level firefighters on the academy grounds. His influence can be felt near and far. No longer riding apparatus, John is still involved with teaching and spreading the good word. His contribution to the fire service has been instrumental in moving the dial on today's fire service.

Deputy Assistant Chief John Norman's (ret.) latest book, "Working with Giants" is the perfect title for how he talks about the job. As he reminisces about his incredible career, he constantly credits those he worked along side of. Those who served as mentors as well as those who served under Chief Norman's command are remembered and talked about by name. With over 50 years in the fire service, 27 of them with the FDNY, Chief Norman certainly has a lifetimes' worth of experiences. His love for the job took him to so many different places throughout his career, most of which was with the Special Operations Command (SOC). Recognizing the importance of his experience, Chief Norman began publishing articles and publications to help push the job forward. His contributions to the Fire Service are quite vast. His widely read book, the Fire Officer's Handbook of Tactics is an industry staple. He has dedicated his lifetime of experience to educating and promoting the job. Even today, Chief Norman recognized the need to share his knowledge through social media channels. A love for fire photos and storytelling makes social media the perfect delivery platform for his willingness to share. Reaching the next generation by where they spend their time is case in point about how in tune Chief Norman is with the job. Adapting to today and understanding the importance of his contributions, Chief Norman will continue to educate as long as he "doesn't run out of photos." John Norman's legacy and commitment to the fire service certainly makes him one of the "Giants". -- For more information, check out www.chiefnorman.com or find him on IG @chiefnormanfdny

Sometimes opportunity presents itself and you have to just have to believe and go all in. Coming off the line for a year and taking a staff position, Lt. Auggie Matt of the Syracuse, NY Fire Department loves working the streets. Prior to being promoted, he was the senior driver of the Rescue and really liked where he was at. But when the Chief asked him to take on a new project with another Lieutenant, he went all in. Creating the Syracuse Fire Department's Professional Development Program was an opportunity to change the trajectory of the department. Creating a blueprint for the membership in both horizontal and vertical applications, Auggie knew how game changing such an endeavor could be. Having a department and administration that believes in the promotion of their people, they provided the tools necessary for firefighters and officers alike to further their education within the fire service. It is not uncommon to have firefighters talking about the courses they're taking or asking questions about the next class coming up. This environment is buy in from the top down and the bottom up. Giving each member the ability to further themselves creates a healthy environment where the attitude is to be better. It's not surprising that Auggie saw the importance of this process. As a student of the fire service, he knows the importance of history and speaks regularly about the early days of the department. He is the owner of Take The Door Training and he runs the annual Heavy Rescue Conference in Syracuse, NY each September. His love of the job and passion for pushing the job forward is evident in everything he touches. The job is good and people like Auggie work hard at making sure it stays that way. -- Check out www.takethedoor.com for moori information about Auggie, his training company and the Heavy Rescue Conference.

How does one know when they become the "Senior Man"?? There is no formal process or recipe for how and when it happens. But there are the ingredients that are necessary for who becomes the "Senior Man". Jess Rodzinka, a Captain with the Charlottesville, VA Fire Department found himself navigating this situation during his 25 year career. The informal leader of the firehouse, this position is often talked about but what is an actual "Senior Man"?? The skills and traits required to carry this title. It's not being the oldest, it doesn't require being the longest serving... it's more than all of that. The one who is looked up to, the one who makes shit happen, the one the boss talks to to make things happen. Respected and protective of the company, its' rules and operations. The list goes on and on with what goes into this pivotal position. Jess dives in and speaks about the ins and outs of the "Senior Man" position and has created a class about it. He speaks from first hand knowledge and experience. His passion for his people, the integrity of the company and the importance of legacy. These traits are all part of the job and meaning of the "Senior Man."

With over 30 years in the fire service, Darren Brinkkoeter still remembers the sights and sounds of growing up as a fireman's kid. Hiding in the back of his fathers car as he races off to the fire in town, Darren knew very early on that firefighting was in his bones. There was little chance he wasn't going to end up riding those firetrucks he so loved growing up. Those years greatly influenced his passion and desire to be the best firefighter he could be. Spending 27 years with the New Braunfels, TX Fire Department, retiring as a Battalion Chief, Darren had the opportunity to work alongside his father early on in his career. Upon retiring, he served as the Chief of Department for the Canyon Lake, TX Fire Department, a growing department and community that presented many challenges. Darren enjoyed his time in Canyon Lake, expanding services and leaving his stamp on the department they are today. He currently is a Region Section Chief for the Texas Division of Emergency Management where he puts his management and communication skills to work during large scale emergencies and responses. Darren's knowledge and demeanor is steadfast and his passion and love for service is ever present. Even many years after retiring from New Braunfels, TX, Darren is still invited back annually to speak with the new firefighters about the tradition and history of the department. This gives him great pride in still being apart of the process while giving back to the fire service that gave him so much throughout his life. He is a humble gentleman who has so much to offer to those who are fortunate enough to meet him.

On todays throwback episode, Jeremy and Rob are joined by the OG himself, retired lieutenant David Gallagher of the Huber Heights Ohio Fire Department. The OG shares with us his stories about coming up through a changing fire service and shares some of the personal events that shaped who he has become in his career. Currently, Dave is continuing to pass on his knowledge as an instructor with the Massachusetts Fire Acadmey and OSTA.

This month marks the 5th anniversary since NFR launched. It has been an incredible journey. This is a quick conversation about our beginning and the foundation in which we continue to build upon today.

Jeremy opens the Northeastern Fire Summit with his keynote, Bridging the Gap. New England FOOLS, March 3-5, 2023.

20 years in the fire service, the last 8 with Sacramento, CA, Steve McClain knows one thing... he wanted to run with fast paced companies and go to fires. Sacramento offers a wide variety of opportunity and admittedly, Steve will tell you the knob is the best seat in the game, but the truck certainly offers more opportunity. And opportunity is what he likes. Sacramento has an organized approach to work. Fluid riding positions and a culture that breeds aggressive firefighting. These factors are built upon the hard work of those that came before Steve and the firefighters' of Sacramento. So it is imperative to protect these values and continuing the mission of keeping the job good. Steve has a passion for training and working with the next generation. Being able to help shape the narrative while instilling the right stuff into the recruits has made for an enjoyable time as a Drill Instructor. "True Believers" sums up everything that is good about the job and Steve's love for Sacramento. He is careful to protect the job while making sure he does his part in moving it forward. "West Coast" Steve has been coming east coast for some time now working with Eckert Fire Tactics and being afforded the opportunity to share his knowledge and experience with Brothers from the right coast. Steve McClain is not slowing down anytime soon. Protecting the job and making an impact will keep him busy for a long time to come.

JP Sokolowski is a career firefighter with the newly formed Wenatchee Valley Fire Department in Washington state. This picturesque location is now home to two departments joining forces to better serve the public. Taking two different cultures, sets of rules, guidelines and anything else you can think of and then putting them together to make something new will certainly present some challenges. Forging forward, it takes time to build culture. It has to be organic. How do you know who you are when traditions and experiences are just beginning to happen? They are at the beginning of their history so finding themselves and discovering their culture is a huge part of the equation. JP is up for the challenge and in fact, he works hard to help shape the future by focusing on today. He has a passion to teach and inspire which is why he instructs and creates. JP's contribution to the fire service far exceeds the Wenatchee Valley region. He is a successful artist and creator. His social media reach has opened doors across the globe creating new designs, logos and artwork for the fire service. He is helping craft the narrative for culture throughout fire companies by capturing the uniqueness of each company he designs for. So, when JP is not in the firehouse or on the training grounds, he can be found attached to his tablet drawing, designing and building pride for firefighters globally. Mixing both passions has allowed for tremendous growth for himself and it continues to push him each day in making the job better. -- Check out JP on his IG @jp_sokolowski_art

When you show interest and treat people right, it leaves a lasting impression on them. Brandon Strickland, a Battalion Chief with Decatur, AL remembers all to well his chance encounter he had at 8 years old with the local fire department. From that day forth, the groundwork was laid and Brandon knew he wanted to be a firefighter. Through the volunteer service as a teenager, to becoming a Youth Minister early on, Brandon focused on community and service. Pursuing a full time career path was only a matter of time. "You just can't preach the sermon, you have to live it out." These words spoken by Brandon sum up his passion and love for the job and the people we serve. He believes in integrity, a strong moral compass and building those up around you while pushing yourself to always be better. Purpose, Passion, Discipline and Excellence. Four talking points that drive home Brandon's commitment to the fire service are front and center in this episode. Continuing his strive for excellence, he is the program chair and lead instructor for the Alabama Smoke Divers, a program designed to push specific individuals to push their physical and mental abilities in moving this job forward. Brandon's commitment is undeniable and he is certainly unapologetic that he loves the job!!

"Go spread the fireground gospel"... LJay Geist has been a student of the fire service since his early years. Looking for more, he has traveled to conferences and made connections with complete strangers just to push himself forward in the fire service. Making the connections and forming relationships with like minded people has impacted LJay greatly. These relationships make him better and encourages him to step out further and give back to the fire service. He now teaches hands-on and speaks at training events. He sometimes has to pinch himself to realize that he is now standing in front of the room instead of sitting in the crowd. But he has never lost sight of the importance of being a student and learning from those he surrounds himself with. His passion is focused on the main mission, "Promote Growth". We have a duty to protect the job and push those around us to be better. Tailboard Leadership and believing in people drive LJay each day to focus on his game while boosting those up around him. He know has a larger stage than just his fire company, but his message remains the same; go out and spread the fireground gospel!!

Grip and Rip!! Rob and Jeremy dive into personal accountability and how it relates to the good, the bad and the ugly of leadership. -- Email the Show!! [email protected]

20 years later and the scars of February 20, 2003 still remain present in so many lives. This is a replay episode from 2022 in which we sat down with Jason Erban at RagTop Industries and captured his story which included responding to the Station Nightclub fire 20 years ago. A moving and powerful story by someone I truly admire in the fire service. -- Today we sat down for a special interview on location at RagTop Industries with Retired Warwick RI Lieutenant Jason Erben. Jason’s career in Warwick spanned 21 years where he retired as the Lieutenant of Special Hazards 1. We hit on family influence from Jason’s Father being a retired Battalion Chief, PTSD, growing up in the fire service, and the accomplishments of his career. But one event stands out and Jason shares with us the story of a bitterly cold night in February of 2003 when the alarm rang in for the Station Nightclub. February 20th of 2003 would prove to be one of many pivotal fires in Jason’s career and during our time he touches on the superhuman response of that evening, his family's involvement, and why sharing this experience is crucial in keeping the memory of those we lost from this incident alive. Jason recently found himself being called back to the job and has since started a second career with New London Fire (CT), is an instructor with Eckert Fire Tactics, Vector Rescue, and the Rhode Island Fire Academy as a Tech Rescue Instructor. This episode is one you won’t want to miss.

When things get complicated... When we run with well trained firefighters day in and day out, the role of Command can become quite routine. Routine can become complacency, complacency can kill. When things get complicated is not the time to put your lackluster performance to the test. Command staff needs to be on their game each and every time they go out the door. The level of expectation that our people have for accountability and protection from our command staff is unmatched. We expect our incident commanders to be able to work on instinct supported by a firm structure. There is an art to running a well coordinated fire and Nick Martin certainly is OCD about it. As the Chief of Operations for Salisbury, NC Fire Department, Nick has put together a program that keeps the Chief training just like the rest of the department. Command is an integral part of the system and needs to be practiced and deployed always. Ensuring competency on the fire ground and confidence from your people requires the IC to be dialed in. Nick is passionate and well informed when it comes to discussing commanding the fire ground. He travels often speaking on the topic as well as running Combat Ready Fire Training and producing polished social media content to reinforce his beliefs in the job. He is a value resource and is hyper focused on making the job better. --- Check out Nick Martin at www.combatreadyfire.com or shoot him an email at [email protected]

The fire department has taught Tyler Whitfield so many things other than fighting fire. Laundry, cooking and making coffee are skills he did not possess prior to the fire service. With 9 years in the fire service, 6 with Clearwater, FL, Tyler had never had to do those things prior to living in the firehouse. You just don't know what you don't know. Whether it's hooking ceilings or making a fresh pot, the fire department offers an opportunity to learn all aspects of life. It requires patience and mentors. Becoming proficient in the current position before moving on is imperative to Tyler. Today, he finds himself in positions that often are filled by more senior firefighters. But as the job trends younger, these positions still need to be filled and so he has made it his mission to learn everything he can so that he is proficient before moving on. How can you be an engine boss if your own skills are lacking?? Supervising a crew while focusing on your job requires confidence and know how. It takes practice and it takes heart. Tyler has both. Outside of the firehouse, he is the President of the Cigar City FOOLS, works with the County Technical Rescue Team and works with new hires. With his relentless passion for everything fire, Tyler is in the perfect spot to effect change. Recognizing those coming into the job might have some know how and experience, Tyler believes we need to harness that instead of breaking the individual down. Capture their life skills and experience and make it work to the benefit of the department. If the Candidate knows how to flow water, then Tyler can at least teach them how to do their laundry, cook and make the best dam coffee on the job. All of it matters and Tyler believes in paying it forward and making the job (and its' people) better!! -- Continue the conversation with Tyler Whitfield at [email protected]

Small town roots run deep, very deep. Joe Palumbo, Sr. lives in Pennsauken, NJ, volunteered for Pennsauken, NJ and recently retired from Pennsauken, NJ. His love of the community lead him down the road of finding the fire service. Volunteering in 1994 was a great time to be a fireman in Pennsauken, NJ. Jobs were bountiful and the hook was instant. Joe knew firefighting was going to be his career. After a few stops along the way, Joe found himself hired by his hometown department. He has hit many milestones after 28 years in the fire service, including being the first career Chief for the township. He is certainly proud of the history and culture that is present within the department. But this didn't come with ease. There were tremendous growing pains over the years while transitioning from a large volunteer model to today's combination department. The process was bumpy and not without struggles. Looking back, Joe reflects on how the department was "losing our relevance to the community" and that change was needed. He credits so many that he served with along the way as to why the current fire protection within the township is where it is today. Acknowledging his own sacrifices though, Joe now knows that being caught up in every aspect of the small town fabric certainly can take its' toll. Proud of his accomplishments and where the department is today, Chief of Department Joe Palumbo, Sr. retired at the end of 2022. As he continues to visit the firehouse to share a cup of coffee, it is now his turn to provide the storytelling while keeping the history alive. Educating the next generation about the foundation of this proud department is imperative so that the buy in remains strong. After all these years, Joe's legacy will live on through those that he touched along the way. His demeanor and steadfast approach makes Joe Palumbo, Sr. a stand out. He now gets to watch his son take the reins and continue on the family tradition within the town they love, Pennsauken, NJ

Captain of Planning and Research was never really in the forward vision of Nick Papa's career. He enjoyed being an engine boss and going to fires. He enjoys the personal growth of himself and his crew when they work the fire ground. However, comfort can be a conundrum. Looking for opportunity and future growth, stepping into the role of the Captain of Planning and Research in the New Britain, CT Fire Department took Nick out of his comfort zone and thrusted him into a position that he is enjoying. This new position has allowed Nick to focus on the other aspects of the job that he might not of had the opportunity to learn. His ability to structure their first inhouse recruit academy was a huge win for the department. Nick is now in a larger, more influential position within the department that can affect larger scale change. Protecting the core principals and culture of the department is important and he can ensure that this is prevalent each day when mentoring the next generation. His passion for furthering his own education opens the door for new possibilities in which he can now pass along to his Brothers and Sisters. All of these items coupled with learning the administration side of the job will give Nick the necessary tools to be better. Uncomfortable keeps you learning. Taking a chance on something new is a challenge Nick Papa welcomes. In the course of a career, a quick stop over can be instrumental in personal growth and being a better firefighter and boss. Absorb as much as you can so that you make your time count. Nick is doing just that. -- Check out Nick Papa at www.firesidetraining.org or reach out to him at [email protected]. He is a powerful instructor and a published author adding tremendous value to the fire service.

Today Rob sits down with Ithica, NY Firefighter Russell Vidler. Russ is an Army Veteran who was looking for the camaraderie and brotherhood he found serving and found it in the fire department. His natural love for fitness found him now teaching the physical fitness program of the NYS Career Recruit Academy in Montour Falls NY. We talk about fitness, PTSD between the Fire Department and Military and how to be a good husband and father.

Pulling a woman from her burning home in June 2019 thrusted Danny Dwyer into the national headlines for weeks after this fire. One would think that the spotlight was for his heroics and bravery, but in fact, it was for the disciplinary charges that followed that evening. Danny became the "poster child" for the ongoing struggle between firefighters doing their job and the new "safety culture" that has crept into our departments. He performed the way the public blindly expects us to - to provide safety and protection in their worst moments. From this, the "Danny Would Go" movement swept across the American Fire Service. People taking each side of the argument, but where was Danny during all of this commotion?? He was dealing with the fall out and the pressures of being thrusted into a national debate. This wasn't the easiest for Danny and his family but one thing is for sure, he never surrendered his conviction and belief that he performed in the very best traditions of the fire service that night. Danny did go, and he would go again, and again, and again. Staying true and believing in himself, he left the City of Atlanta to focus more on himself and his family. He now rides with a new jurisdiction and he is more excited about the job than ever. He struggled along the way but he found the way back to loving the job and being vindicated by the commission three years later. Life continues to move forward for Danny and he is in a place today where he can influence change. Those principles that let him down back in 2019 will never factor into his mentoring and he'll be dammed to let the public or his people down like he was let down years ago. Danny continues to Go. He doesn't know any other way...

A loyal family man and the life of the party, Rich Stack is just one of those guys who you enjoy being around. His funny antics and sparkling eyes makes him stand out amongst the crowd. His passion for the job and his confidence in himself and his people make Rich a great Boss. Currently assigned as a covering Lieutenant, Rich is on his 22nd year with the Chicago Fire Department. His early days of volunteering with his father set Rich up for wanting to become a career firefighter. After many attempts, his dream became reality and he hasn't looked back. Working in busy companies, Rich gained plenty of experience and knowledge. Teaching for the Illinois Fire Service Institute (IFSI), On-Scene Training Solutions, Affordable Drill Towers and a few other organizations, Rich knows training matters. But even the best can get jammed up in a fire. Rich discusses a close call he had on January 6, 2014 in which he found himself in a precarious position. Rich was able to walk away but it left him struggling with his "experience" that day. Working in the busiest company, teaching, walking tall with experience and yet he got jammed up. "It wasn't supposed to happen." Rich discusses the situation and the aftermath of how he dealt with it. The job is full of ups and downs and sometimes we find ourselves smack dab in the middle of it. Rich Stack is friend, Brother and someone I admire. His willingness to share and reflect on his career will certainly help many other firefighters who might struggle with similar situations. Rich makes this job better.

After 22 years with the FDNY, Lt. Steve Gillespie needed a change of scenery. His career spanned with busy companies throughout the Bronx, the majority of his time spent with Squad 41. Finding his way to the Squad Company allowed for Steve to grow as a firefighter, mentored by some of the best firefighters he has ever met. But the position also exposed him alot of the down side of the job as well. Dealing with trauma and tragic incidents such as several LODD fires including September 11, 2001, Steve realized he needed more than just the kitchen table to help him cope with his past experiences. Finding an outlet and changing the scenery led him to retiring from the FDNY and moving to SC to become the Training Captain of the North Charleston, SC Fire Department. This change of pace and distance away from New York City let him focus on himself and the mental and physical healing he needed. Always missing the job up north, Steve found ways to manage his struggles and still remained in love with his childhood passion. Today, he is fully retired and teaches across the country. His immediate focus is on mental health and "Surviving the Job". His class discussed Steve's battles and offers ways to communicate and deal with the daily stresses of the job. "You never know the weight of something until you don't have to carry it anymore." His class is part of his own healing and working with different organizations helps him each day as he shares his story and experiences in hope of reaching others. Steve Gillespie doesn't regret his experiences and the damage that comes with being a firefighter. He does know that not focusing on his own well being could've had a very different outcome. His passion for the job and the Brotherhood keeps him going and allows him to help others even after his second retirement from the job. --- If you want to continue the conversation, you can reach Steve Gillespie at [email protected].