Money Life with Chuck Jaffe

Eddy Vataru, portfolio manager for the Osterweis Total Return Fund, says that the pandemic economy has put such a big wrench in the markets and life that it forces investors to rethink what makes a prudent investment now. He notes that investors have to cast a cautious eye to fixed income and be wary of chasing yields by extending bond duration. Also on the show, John Divine of US News and World Report says that the stock market's current value seems to ignore long-term concerns that have not even begun to play out, Bill Harmon of Voya Financial discusses a survey showing whether Americans' are changing their long-term investments plans, and Lamar Villere of the Villere Funds finds growth at a reasonable price in the Market Call.

Ken Applegate, portfolio manager at Wasatch International Growth, says that Japan -- and particularly small-cap companies there -- will be an area that investors should see leading the way as global markets recover from the coronavirus pandemic shutdown. Applegate says that economies that were struggling before the pandemic -- including most of Europe with low or negative interest rates -- are likely to struggle more to recover because they will have a tough time getting money flowing again. In another Big Itnerview, Toby Loftin of the Hennessy Funds talks about energy and midstream stocks, noting that investors will have to change the way they see these issuers -- and react to potential dividend cuts -- to buy low now and ride the long, slow path to recovery. Also on the show, Greg McBride of Bankrate.comKyle Guske of New Constructs avoids adding to shelter-at-home miseries by singling out a stock headed for trouble in the Danger Zone and, instead, talks about an issue that has become particularly attractive for investors now.

David Goerz of Strategic Frontier Management, says that the market overshot the negative at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic and that as clarity develops about re-opening the economy he expects the market to climb the wall of worry through to the end of the year. While he says the second quarter of 2020 will be 'a throw-away,' he expects the Standard and Poor's 500 to finish the year near 3,000, up more than 10 percent from current levels and representing a loss of just 5 percent on the year. Also on the show, Nicole Eisenberger of Ernst and Young on valuation issues inside of business-development companies, Francesca Ortegren of Clever Real Estate talks about survey results showing how Americans are struggling financially right now, and Brian Andrew of Johnson Financial Group discusses funds and ETFs in the Market Call.

Tim Clift, chief investment strategist at Envestnet, says that even the current downturn -- as big as it has been and could grow to -- ultimately will become a blip on an investor's radar, which is why it's important to hold fast to financial plans and not make nervous moves that alter asset allocation, typically at just the wrong time. Empirically, Clift says he has not seen individual investors getting panicky, though he notes that a prolonged slowdown and a market drop could change behaviors for the worse. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a new ETF with an unusual strategy his 'ETF of the Week,' Ande Frazier of myWorth talks financial priorities when money gets tight, and Art Amador of the AI Powered Equity ETF talks investments selected using artificial intelligence in the Market Call

Howard Silverblatt of SP Dow Jones Indexes says that after a record first quarter for dividend payouts -- in which $127 billion in distributions were made -- income-producing stocks have seen a dramatically changed landscape as the COVID-19 pandemic took hold. As precautions ramped up, 13 companies cut or suspended dividend payments that would have totaled roughly $14 billion in March. That trend of dividend reductions and shutdowns is just beginning, Silverblatt says, noting that investors should expect reduced payouts and that stock buybacks will be rare for the foreseeable future. Also on the show, author Gerald Posner talks about the pharmaceuticals industry and its changing future when the viral economy subsides, former SEC director Norm Champ talks about how individuals can better ride out the chaos of the crumbling economy, and Chuck answers an audience member's question about a popular fund whose manager was recently on the show as a guest.

Warren Pierson, deputy chief investment officer at the Baird Funds, said that while the worst dislocation of the viral economy is now starting to wind down, the uncertainty ahead will shape and potentially surprise the bond market, as credit downgrades, low interest rates and more play out for at least the rest of the year as a recovery struggles to to gain a foothold. Also on the show, Preston Caldwell from Morningstar Inc. discusses the firm's best, worst and current forecasts for the economic outcomes from the COVID-19 pandemic, Chuck answers an audience question about deciding which securities to sell in order to raise cash now, and Don Rich from the Esoterica NextG Economy ETF talks stocks in the Market Call.

Rusty Vanneman, chiefinvestment officer at Orion Advisor Technology, says that if your asset allocation and investment plan were appropriate prior to the global pandemic, they remain appropriate and proper today, meaning that most investors should not be changing their holdings much in the middle of current troubles, even as they look for opportunities going forward. Vanneman believes that there will be superior economic growth when the viral economy ends, which should lead to value stocks and small-cap stocks -- two areas that were lagging the market pre-crisis -- becoming leaders. Also on the show, Ken Simonson discusses results from the latest National Association of Business Economics survey, where wide-ranging results show how hard the current situation is to analyze, Phil Haslett of EquityZen discusses the initial-public offering and pre-IPO markets, and David Trainer of New Constructs says that certain research efforts are undermined by the economic shut-down, creating problem areas for investors who rely on those numbers.

Angus Deaton of Princeton University -- winner of the 2015 Nobel Prize for Economics -- discusses rising trends in 'deaths of despair' -- from suicide, overdose and addiction -- and how capitalism must change to stem the tide, but also how the health care system must change coming out of the viral economy to face new and different challenges ahead. Also on the show, Andrew Foster of Seafarer Capital discusses emerging markets and whether coming out of the virus cycle early will create any advantages for them, Jerremy Newsom of Real Life Trading discusses the market's technical indicators, and John Cole Scott of Closed-End Fund Advisors and the Active Investment Company Alliance chats about discounts and offers several attractive options for bargain hunters to consider now.

Darrell Cronk, chief investment officer at Wells Fargo Wealth and Investment Management, said that while the stock market is struggling and not yet showing compelling values, he is confident that a rebound is coming globally and that the United states -- and specifically domestic large-cap growth stocks -- will lead the way for investors looking to climb out of the hole put in their portfolio by the market's recent draw down. Also on the show, Jason Brady, chief executive officer at Thornburg Investment Management , suggests that income and dividend investors will need to be cautious during the recovery because income investments will be changed by and reflect current market conditions for the foreseeable future. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes an intermediate muni-bond fundtime his ETF of the Week, and Mike Brown of LendEDU.com is back to give an update on his site's survey of consumers' financial reaction to the COVID-19.

Nick Niziolek, co-chief investment officer at Calamos Investments, has been watching how China, Korea and emerging markets are recovering from the coronavirus pandemic, and while he is not expecting a snap-back globally, he calls the progress and the speed of the recovery 'encouraging,' and says he expects to see similar progress domestically as the US moves through the viral cycle. Niziolek notes that the impacts of the virus and the changes it creates int he economy could affect and change the market and specific industries for decades. Also on the show, Francesca Ortegren of Clever Real Estate talks about how the mortgage market changes -- and where consumers stand in their mortgages -- now as compared to the recession of 2008, Chuck answers an audience question about a big dividend-paying stock, and Kathy Boyle of Chapin Hill Advisors talks exchange-traded funds in the Market Call.

Jeff Schulze, investment strategist at ClearBridge Investments, says his company's 'Recession Risk Dashboard' shows that the economy is now fully in recession territory and that it could be the worst recession ever, but he notes that thanks to policy response, it will not become a depression. While he expects recovery to take a little longer than many expect -- just because the market will want to be sure the black swan event of coronavirus has ended before committing to a return to buying -- Schulze says a strong recovery is part of the outlook. Also on the show, Dan Zanger of ChartPattern.com says he's not ready to buy into this market with much conviction, Matt Zajechowski of Digital Third Coast talks taxes and procrastination, and absolute value manager Brian Frank of the resurgent Frank Value Fund talks stocks in the Market Call.

Lindsey Bell, chief investment strategist at Ally Invest, says in the Big Interview that with experts warning about how bad the next few weeks could be from the standpoint of spreading the coronavirus, it leaves investors waiting to see just how deep and how long a resulting recession will be, and what the recovery side of this picture will look like. Despite that cautious talk, Bell notes that when the market drops 30 percent or more, it is presenting a compelling chance to put money to work. Also on the show, Susan Tillery of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants talks about the emotional impacts of elder fraud, David Trainer of New Constructs warns about exchange-traded funds paying exceptionally high dividends, and Kevin Miller of the E-Valuator Funds talks funds and ETFs in the Market Call.

Jim Welsh, portfolio manager at SmartPortfolios, says that in the standard bear market, there is a 'reflex rally,' which is what he feels the market has been going through for roughly the last week, but that the stock market typically can't hold that rally for long before testing new depths. That's why he believes another significant drop lies ahead -- on that could shave nearly 400 points off the Standard and Poor's 500 -- before the real rally begins. Long-term investors with a five-year or longer horizon should ride the market out, Welsh notes, but short-term monies need to be protected. Also on the show, Robert Michaud from New Frontier Advisors discusses the need to be fully diversified coming through troubling market times, Cheryl Pate of Angel Oak Capital discusses community banking investments in closed-end funds, and Martin Leclerc of Barrack Yard Advisors discusses his disciplined approach to stocks in the Market Call.

Chris Zaccarelli, chief investment officer at the Independent Advisor Alliance, says that the economy and the stock market are poised to improve from current levels -- although he is not yet ready to call the decline a market bottom and won't try to time one -- but he warned that 'better' could be only part way back to 'normal.' He did say the market ultimately will be higher, though he said it's impossible to know if that will happen in a year, two years or further down the road. Also on teh show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com has a choice that could help rebalance risk as his ETF of the Week, Sarah Berger of MagnifyMoney.com discusses the disconnect between retirement savers' hopes and their actions, and Ken Mahoney of Mahoney Asset Management makes his debut in the Market Call.

Ed Shill chief investment officer at QCI Asset Management, says in the Market Call that as the market has moved from overbought in January to dramatically oversold in March, investors should have started looking for opportunities to buy and take small steps to take money off the sidelines and start taking advantage of the bargains. Also on the show, Paula Fleming of the Better Business Bureaus talks about increasingly popular -- and dangerous -- cryptocurrency scams, Bruce Bond of Innovator ETFs discusses defined-outcome investing and how it has held up in the down market, and Mike Brown of LendEDU.com covers Americans' financial condition as they entered the shelter-at-home economy.

Steve Friedman, senior macroeconomist at MacKay Shields, says the global fixed-income picture is such that investors are going to see rates near zero and potentially going negative in the U.S., an unprecedented move that is necessary because 'the economy is coming to a sudden stop,' forcing central bankers to maintain liquidity and income investors to diversify broadly. Before that Big Interview, however, Mark Newton of Newton Advisors says the market's technicals indicate that the market's recent upswing tick is a 'short-term rally within an existing downtrend' meaning another leg down is in the offing, particularly if the market can't rally to and hold 2,792, a key support level on the Standard and Poor's 500. Also on the show, Ted Rossman of CreditCards.com talks about the existing level of credit-card debt faced by Americans entering the coronavirus economy and how that will hold challenges and change behaviors as financial pressures mount, and, in the Market Call, Eric Boughton of Matisse Capital says that closed-end fund discounts are at record levels, making 'nearly everything' a buy for investors who can stomach heightened risks.

Dan Keady, chief financial planner at TIAA, says that while investors are looking at their retirement savings and thinking they have been devastated, the market ultimately will help them catch up and recover, provided they don't try to get off the market rollercoaster mid-ride hoping to escape market risk right now. Also on the show, Mark Hamrick of Bankrate.com discusses survey results on how many Americans have skipped or done without medical care due to its cost, David Trainer of New Constructs puts high-risk dividend stocks in the Danger Zone, and Brian Bollinger of Simply Safe Dividends tries to help listeners find lower-risk payouts from stocks in the Market Call.

John Blank, chief economist at Zacks Investment Research, says that the market's reaction to the coronavirus public health crisis was foreseeable but overblown, and that strong earnings projections on tap for companies once conditions normalize make a strong rebound look inevitable. He makes the case that the current event-driven recession is not look like the structural recession of 2008, which is why it will be a much shorter event. Also on the show, Thomas Winmill of the Midas Fund discusses how gold has held up, and gives his take on a recent Goldman Sachs' comment urging people to buy gold as the 'currency of last resort,' Buck Klintworth of Chase Investment Counsel talks technicals, Rob Shaker of Shaker Financial covers big discounts in closed-end funds in The NAVigator, and Chuck explains why a fun thing he started with his daughter has the show picking today's theme music from 'The Love Boat.'

Ron Sanchez, chief investment officer at Fiduciary Trust Co. International, says there will be three phases to the virus economy, and that we are still in the first, which is marked as a time with extreme uncertainty and anxiety. In phase 2, which he expects to start in two to four weeks, Schwartz expects to lose the extreme-ness of it all, but for the volatility to remain. Abate says he is waiting for more investment opportunities but that right now it's too late to sell and too early to buy. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com announces his ETF of the Week, Paula Fleming of the Better Business Bureaus of New England talks about coronavirus scams, and James Abate of the Centre Funds talks stocks in the Market Call.

Robert Frick, corporate economist at Navy Federal Credit Union, says that while the virus economy is a clear and present danger to the financial well-being of average investors -- and while the media has been stoking the fears of how bad the market and economy could be moving forward -- that the biggest threat most investors face right now is their own temperament and the ability to control their emotions and stay calm. He explains how investors need to use behavioral economics to filter out the noise. Also on the show, Jimmy Hausberg from HighTower Advisors talks about how investors should respond to building internal selling pressures, Gerri Detweiler of NAV.com discusses the new FICO credit-scoring system, and Dan Brady of Trendrating.com talks stocks -- and how few of them are worth buying right now -- in the Market Call.

Mona Mahajan, US investment strategist for Allianz Global Investors, says that the stock market won't stabilize until there is a visible path for a 'global return to normalcy,' but adds that she doesn't think the 'long-term fundamental health of the US economy is derailed' by the worldwide reaction to the coronavirus. As such, she will be looking for values and better risk-reward opportunities for when the worst of the troubles are past. Also on the show, Danielle Shay of SimplerTrading.com talks about the market's technicals, the hard time finding support and the growing number of investors who want to trade, Kathy Kristof of SideHusl.com discusses opportunities till out there for individuals who are looking for work while remaining physically distant, and Nancy Tengler of Laffer Tengler Wealth Management makes her debut in the Market Call talking dividend-oriented stocks.

Meb Faber, head of the Cambria Funds and a noted observer of the investment world, says that while the depth and scope of the current downturn is breathtaking, the best way to deal with it remains being steadfast about your investment plans and changing nothing. Also on the show, Kyle Guske of New Constructs puts two popular brand-name stocks in the Danger Zone, and Dan Wiener, co-editor at The Independent Adviser for Vanguard Investors and chairman at Adviser Investments returns to the Market Call to talk mutual funds and ETFs.

Craig Callahan, president of the ICON Funds, says that the stock market's recent downturn has created the best bargains he has ever seen, better than the darkest days from the 2008 financial crisis or any other downturn he has lived through. He noted that all of the supporting conditions for a true buying opportunity are aligning right now; despite that, Callahan says it's not yet time to buy, though he thinks that time is 'close.' Also on the show, Bryce Rowe of National Securities discusses the double-digit dividends and growing discounts on business-development companies in The NAVigator segment, technical analyst John Kosar from Asbury Research says coronavirus has accelerated a downturn the market was setting up for, making the market oversold, although he was not ready to call for a bottom and will be watching if the market can turn roughly 2,350 on the Standard and Poor's 500 into a real support level; also Erin Kelly, author of 'Overload: How Good Jobs Went Bad and What We Can Do About It.'

Veteran personal finance and financial writer John Waggoner visits Chuck for the Big Interview to discuss the many market melt-downs and rebounds they have seen in decades of covering the industry, and while Waggoner is confident that there will be a rebound for current problems, he noted that what is different about this downturn is the suddenness and steepness, combined with no apparent safe havens for making money. 'What's worrisome about today's market is that I don't see anywhere you can make any money on anything,' he says. 'Gold is down, bonds are down, stocks are down, everything is down.' Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a trend-following bond fund his 'ETF of the Week,' Eddie Perkin of Eaton Vance discusses the way investors are internalizing fear and greed in the current market, and Nick McCullum of Safe Dividends talks income-producing stocks in the Market Call.

Vince Reinhart, chief economist and macro strategist at Mellon notes that pandemics run their course and that most effects of this kind of market shock tend to be temporary. He notes that investors are best served to 'Keep calm and carry on,' as he believes the current downturn ultimately will be matched with a rebound once the effects of coronavirus are near or at an end. ASlso on the show, Andy Morse of HighTower Advisors discusses how investors should react to circumstances like current conditions that they have never seen or experienced before, Steve Utkus of the Vanguard Group talks investor expectations, and Mike Liss of American Century Value covers value investing and whether the market's decline is creating bargains yet in the Market Call.

Fritz Folts, chief investment strategist at 3Edge Asset Management, says that while the current market environment is extreme and represents a 'very deep hit to the economy,' he sees the potential for a quick and sharp recovery. That said, Folts was defensive before the market turned and remains that way despite the massive drop-off over the last two weeks; he expects beaten down asset classes to start to become attractive soon, and says he will be looking at adding to Asia, emerging markets and possibly gold as he starts to become aggressive closer to the bottom of the cycle. Also on the show, Gene Peroni of Peroni Portfolio Advisors says that the sectors that led the way as the market was peaking last month will likely be the first to recover, though he says he will not be surprised if we get a 'sawtooth recovery' with a lot of ups and downs on the way to bouncing back from current downturns. Nelson Schwartz of the New York times discusses his new book, 'The Velvet Rope Economy' and talks about how the current pandemic is exacerbating the differences between the haves and have-nots, and Greg McBride of Bankrate.com is in to discuss how low mortgage rates have not been enough to keep people from feeling the pinch of paying for their homes.

John Cole Scott, executive chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, says that investors looking for something to buy as they pick through the rubble of the market's recent freefall will find fertile opportunities in closed-end funds, where discounts have widened but yields are up since the market fell away from all-time highs a month ago. Scott offers a few attractive options for today's tough conditions. Also on the show, David Souccar of Vontobel Quality Growth gives an international take on markets, noting that while the moves feel extreme, the responses to them should not be, Kerry Pechter editor of Retirement Income Journal, discusses changes being made to retirement calculators, and Kyle Guske of New Constructs singles out two stocks that he says have entered the Danger Zone.

Lawrence McMillan of McMillan Analysis says the market is oversold but it is falling so hard and fast that there is no solid level of support, and that it could fall further before it starts creating real buy signals. McMillan notes that people may be expecting buying opportunities, but they haven't arrived yet as just one obscure indicator from the many he looks at has created a buy signal, suggesting it's time to start buying again. Also on the show, Kathy Bostjancic, chief economist at Oxford Economics USA, says that the market is pricing in a recession which makes that unlikely that there is any way for the economy to avoid one amid the slowdown of economic activity created by the coronavirus. Also on the show, Kusara Barto of Squaremouth.com talks about how travel insurance is and isn't working for consumers who are thinking they might cancel planned trips, and Noland Langford of Left Brain Investment Research talks stocks in the Market Call.

Giles Coghlan, chief currency analyst at HYCM, says that while domestic investors see trouble based on the US market, the coronavirus is having a global impact on markets that is still in the early stages of being sorted out. Coghlan notes that investors who maintain a three- to five-year outlook might find themselves buying into troubled industries like oil, but that anyone with a short-term view can't call a bottom yet, which is why investors should lengthen their time horizons and consider bargain hunting. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a long-term Treasury fund his ETF of the Week, Dave Du Val of TaxAudit.com discusses how Americans are struggling to know IRS rules changes, and Bruce Kaser of The Turnaround Letter discusses in the Market Call the impact of the current decline on the types of troubled companies he pursues.

Chun Wang, portfolio manager at the Leuthold Group, says that the Treasury market and credit market are sending two different messages, with the Treasuries actions signaling that the Federal Reserve must move and that recession risk is up, even as the credit market is suggesting that the environment remains healthy. Wang says that coronavirus is less of a market catalyst than an accelerator, bringing troublesome trends to the fore faster than anticipated, but he says that ithe virus economy could trigger a broad recessio in the next six to 12 months. Also on the show, Adam Thurgood of HighTower Advisors Las Vegas talks about implementing -- and sticking with -- a defensive strategy in your portfolio, Jill Gonzalez of WalletHub.com discusses the surprising number of Americans who anticipate missing a credit-card payment this year, and Brian Yacktman of the YCG Funds -- whose YCG Enhanced was the top-performing large-cap growth fund of 2019 -- talks 'enduring pricing power' in the Market Call.

David Wright, lead portfolio manager of the Sierra Mutual Funds, says that Monday's market action put the stock market into oversold territory, but he warned against jumping in now because he expects any snap-back rally to be offset by further declines before the market finds a bottom, and investors who race in could 'catch a falling javelin' if they fall for 'false rallies.' Wright, whose indicators have him out of the market now, believes the current decline is the start of a longer-term bear market. Meanwhile, George Milling-Stanley, chief gold strategist at State Street Global Advisors, believes the outlook for precious metals is promising in the face of so much global market turmoil and uncertainty, noting that he expects gold to resume its recent climb once the market steadies and he expects it to stay solid while the broader market struggles. Also on the show, Chuck talks about reacting properly -- rather than over-reacting -- to the market right now, and Adam Winslow of AIG Life Insurance discusses a study out today showing the strong emotions that can be tide to a lack of protection.

Jeff Weniger, director of asset allocation at WisdomTree Asset Management, said that the economy was slowing globally before recent troubles and the likely temporary economic effects of coronavirus, and he expects the market to see through the slowdown being caused by the epidemic to avoid long-term trouble, but only after there is more pain market pain. Meanwhile, gas prices are falling, mortgage rates are falling and there are more conditions that will help the market and economy rebound. Also on the show, Ken Tumin of DepositAccounts.com discusses a survey about consumers' financial mistakes, Kyle Guske of New Constructs puts two stocks into the Danger Zone, and Mark Travis, manager of the Intrepid Funds, talks stocks in the Market Call.

Brandon Thurber, director of the investment research group at Regions Asset Management says that current market events haven't changed his long-term market outlook, because the economic effects of coronavirus are likely to be transitory. He expects a rollercoaster market at least until election day. Likewise, Kristina Hooper, chief global market strategist for Invesco, believes the market's turbulence and the downward pressure exerted by current events, are short-term in nature, saying that patient investors will be rewarded for staying calm. Also on the show, Michael Gayed of The Lead-Lag Report -- which generated a sell signal late in January before the market started to falter -- says he is looking for the bond market to signal when it's an appropriate time to get back into the stock market, and Seth Brufsky of Ares Dynamic Credit Allocation Fund talks high-yield investing in The NAVigator.

Lawrence McDonald, creator of The Bear Traps Report, says that the global economy and business environment are poised to see trillions of dollars leave the United States in favor of international investments in the next two years, a trend that will mute the domestic stock market and make it hard to keep pushing forward. Still, McDonald sees the domestic market rebounding, so that any down action caused by the changing business climate will prove a buying opportunity long-term. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes an unusual real estate-oriented fund his ETF of the Week, Ted Rossman of Bankrate.com discusses the billions in unused gift cards and shopping credits that are going unspent, and Ryan Jacob of the Jacob Funds -- an aggressive-growth technology investor -- talks stocks in the Market Call.

Roger Shaffer of HighTower Advisors, says that individual investors planning their way through the current market turmoil need to focus on process and their ultimate goals rather than on the market's trends, reviewing their risk tolerance and their phase in the financial cycle to make decisions that focus on personal circumstances rather than the market. Also on the show, Dr. Ted Klontz of the Financial Psychology Institute discusses how he believes investors should change some of their savings habits to better reach their goals, Doug Roberts of Channel Capital Research weighs in on the Federal Reserve's big rate cut and what it portends for the future, and Roger Conrad of Conrad's Utility Investor talks about energy and utility stocks in the Market Call.

Jeffrey Hirsch of Stock Trader's Almanac said that while investors are focused on the coronavirus troubles and the election year, he believes the market showed its cards when it scored badly on the 'January Barometer' and other technical measures, signalling that it is likely to be flat and volatile for most of the year. Hirsch also discusses how and how long epidemics of the past have affected the market. Also on the show, author Mike Jaccarino discusses 'America's Last Newspaper War,' Nathan Grant of Credit Card Insider discusses tax refunds and credit-card debts, and Jeff Auxier of Auxier Focus Fund discusses value investing in stocks in the Market Call.

Dec Mullarkey, head of investment strategy at SLC Investments, said the market's action last week represented a 'fairly orderly repricing of risk' in the market, even though the headlines make it seem more dramatic than that. Mullarkey said he expects there to be at least a 'second leg' to the downturn and noted that he'd be patient waiting for more economic data and to see the spread of the coronavirus before he believes any rally represents a real change of direction. Also on the show, Greg McBride of Bankrate.com talks about Americans' imbalance between debt reduction and emergency savings, David Trainer of New Constructs puts a stock that is already on the decline into the Danger Zone saying it could go all the way to zero, and Dana D'Auria of Symmetry Partners talks funds and ETFs in the Market Call.

Bill Nygren, manager of the Oakmark Fund, notes that there is always some sort of crisis or problem that threatens the market, and that investors need to remember that their objective is a real-life financial goal and not winning some game of beating the market now, and he notes that there are compelling values -- even before the current downturn -- that long-term buyers should be considering now rather than focusing on the fallout from coronavirus and other short-term events. Also on the show, Michael Sincere -- who warned of the current downturn on the show at the start of February -- returns to discuss what is next from a technical standpoint now that the Standard and Poor's 500 has broken below its 200-day moving average, Rick Konrad, director of value strategy for The Roosevelt Investment Group talks about value investing's natural advantage in closed-end funds, and Mark Charest of the AlphaCentric LifeSci Healthcare Fund talks biotech and pharmaceutical issues in the Market Call.

Personal finance journalism legend Jane Bryant Quinn joins Chuck today for two interviews, the first focused on the reboot of her book 'How to Make Your Money Last,' the second about the state of the financial media and more. In 1995, Quinn labeled most personal finance journalism as 'financial pornography,' appealing to the worst characteristics of investors; the media world has changed dramatically, but her feelings for much of the information out there have not. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes the sister fund to a big, brand-name issue his ETF of the Week, and Nan Morrison on the Council for Economic Education discusses financial education and literacy in the nation's school systems.

Michael Falk of Focus Consulting Group returns to the show for a very personal discussion with Chuck -- a conversation they plan to revisit regularly -- about how he has dealt personally and financially with the diagnosis that he has ALS, or Lou Gehrig's Disease. They discuss what goes through the mind of a lifelong planner around money and finances, and the plans for Falk's future, however long it will be, in a unique Big Interview. Also on the show, Matthias Kuhlmey, head of development for HighTower Advisors returns to the show for the first time in about two years to talk markets and planning, Shobin Uralil of Lively discusses how and where Americans spend their health care savings dollars, and Gerry Frigon of Taylor Frigon Capital Management talks stocks in the Market Call.

Ken Berman, strategist at Gorilla Trades, said that despite a 1,000 point sell-off in the Dow Jones Industrial Average Monday, the market still looks good from a long-term perspective. He says long-term technicals remain bullish, and he is optimistic that the coronavirus scare could convince leaders in China and the U.S. to get down to serious trade negotiations faster than without the potential pandemic. Also on the show, Kristen Dillard of Quicken on why most New Year's resolutions are forgotten by now, Simon Lack of SL Advisors talking energy stocks in the Market Call, and Chuck answering an audience member's question on using stop-loss orders to protect against the market's volatile edges.

William Smead, manager of the Smead Value Fund, has been bearish on energy stocks and oil companies for years, but he says in the Market Call that the market has been shifting, which makes energy stocks worth buying. He notes that demographics showing that millennials will double their use of gasoline -- despite the increased acceptance of alternative-energy engines in cars -- and that recent troubles have improved valuations of big oil and energy to where they are worth buying. Likewise, he sees a powerful trend in household formation among millennials that will help home-builders and other consumer businesses. Also on the show, Gerri Walsh of the FINRA Education Foundation talks about investor knowledge levels, Vince Annable discusses the 'Household Endowment Model' for managing money, and David Trainer of New Constructs puts two stocks in the Danger Zone.

Francesca Ortegren of Clever Real Estate discusses the cities and communities where individuals are most likely to live paycheck-to-paycheck and why those communities are so hard for making ends meet, and Chuck has to come to grips with the idea that one of his kids currently lives in the worst place in America for getting by. Also on the show, John Cole Scott of the Active Investment Company Alliance talks muni bonds and preferred stocks held in closed-end funds, author Jean O'Toole discusses scholarship opportunities that most students overlook, and Bill Kornitzer of the Buffalo International Fund talks global investing in the Market Call.

In separate interviews, Matt Harris, head of the outsourced chief investment officer division at HighTower Advisors and Sheraz Mian, director of research at Zacks Investment reason, both urge investor caution in the near-term future, but for very different reasons. Harris, a technical analyst, notes the recent strength of the Standard and Poor's 500 index compared to its moving 200-day moving average -- the benchmark is 11.5 percent above the average, which has occurred less than two percent of trading days over the last decade -- generally results in a two to five percent decline in two weeks to three months from when it first occurs. Mian, meanwhile, notes that while the current earnings period has been strong, there are signs of weakening results going forward, which combined with events like coronavirus should mute second- and third-quarter earnings.results. Also on the show, Julie Genjac of Hartford Funds discusses adviser expectations for 2020, and Corey Hoffstein of the Newfound/ReSolve Robust Equity Momentum Index talks stocks and ETFs in the Market Call.

Frank Holmes, chief investment officer at US Global Investors, says that airline stocks have been sold down as a result of the coronavirus epidemic, and he expects them to have 'a super surge' -- along with hotels and luxury goods companies -- when the crisis ends, which he thinks is just a quarter away. Holmes also discusses gold, blockchain and more in a wide-ranging Big Interview. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com puts the rare bad word in about a specialized fund that he thinks is due for a long stretch of trouble, Brodie Gay of Unison talks real estate appreciation, and Gary Bradshaw of the Hodges Blue Chip Equity Income fund talks brand-name companies in the Market Call.

Adam Grimes of Talon Advisors has a bullish market outlook, noting that extraneous market events like coronavirus don't typically derail longer, larger market themes, and aren't going to overcome the current forces driving the market for the foreseeable future. Also on the show, financial adviser and author Michael Falk discusses how public discussions of entitlements and other big financial topics must change to avoid collapsing, Richard Barrington of MoneyRates.com on how much Americans overpay on credit-card debt, and Christopher Zook of CAZ Investments makes his debut talking stocks in the Market Call.

Brian Beitner, portfolio manager of Chautauqua International Growth and Chautauqua Global Growth, says that the market and the global economy are in a delicate condition, which raises fears of how an event like coronavirus could create a downturn. Beitner says he thinks the virus situation is transitory and that the market recognizes that it's not going to crash the market or create once-in-a-lifetime buying opportunities in China and emerging markets; he recommends finding stocks with 'durable stories' to get through choppy, volatile markets. Separately, William Delwiche of Baird says the current rally remains healthy from a technical standpoint, noting that so long as market breadth is strong, investors should not fight the trend. Also on the show, Tony Huang of Advent Convertible and Income Fund talks convertible and closed-end fund investing in The NAVigator, and Garvin Jabusch of Green Alpha Advisors covers stock investments with a social point of view in the Market Call.

Tom Lydon, editor of ETFTrends.com, said that investors looking for a trend play in a market dominated by headlines of and reactions to coronavirus might consider KraneShares MSCI All China Health Care Index, making a tactical play on a defensive emerging-markets sector that balances the fundamentals of China's enormous demographics with the reactions to the news. Lydon, in describing the fund, did suggest that investors only consider it as a trend-following type of investment, and suggested that buyers might want to follow short-term moving averages to set their stops. Also on the show, author Michele Cagan discusses her new primer on debts and how to get out of them, Anuj Nayar of LendingClub.com talks about a study on the reasons why men and women keep financial secrets from their partner, and Barry James of the James Advantage Funds talks stocks in the Market Call.

Michael Power, strategist at Investec Asset Management, an international money manager, says that something doesn't look right with the American stock market back at record high levels and seemingly 'walking on air' despite the recent inversion of the yield curve and economic numbers that show slowing and increasing weakness. The U.S. market remains the world's strongest, Power said, but that difference is less pronounced, and valuations in other countries may make it so that international investments -- especially in emerging markets -- are more attractive than U.S. stocks and bonds going forward. Also on the show, Jim Ewing of HighTower Advisors discusses how current market conditions make this a particularly good time to rebalance a portfolio, Sarah Foster of Bankrate.com discusses Valentine's Day spending, and Louis Navellier of the Navellier Funds talks about growth stocks in the Market Call.

Markus Schomer, chief economist at PineBridge Investments, says he is pricing two rate cuts from the Federal Reserve into his forecasts, and note that so long as investors believe the Fed will come to their rescue and cut rates to pump up the economy, the market will keep going higher. Also on the show, Jeff Bishop of RagingBull.com says that market conditions make this a great time to be trading on dips, Ted Rossman of CreditCards.com discusses financial infidelity, and Jeff Mills of Bryn Mawr Trust talks growth stocks and asset-allocation strategies in the Market Call.