Money Life with Chuck Jaffe

Brian Nick, chief investment strategist at Nuveen, discusses his firm's outlook for the remainder of 2020, while noting that there is little clarity in any outlook right now thanks largely to coronavirus, but also owing to the election, the economy and more. Nick also talks about how the falling rates story in bonds -- which is forcing investors to re-think the role of bonds in their portfolios -- will likely be the story of the coming decade, as investors deal with the fallout of 'lower for longer.' Also on the show, Gene Nadler discusses the simple strategy that's behind his book 'The Perfect Stock Market Diet,' and Jack Murphy of Levin Easterly Partners talks about value investing and value stocks in the Market Call.

Brad Lamensdorf of the Lamensdorf Market Timing Report and the Ranger Equity Bear fund (HDGE) says that the market's expectations are swinging between extremes -- from a high-greed environment to a high-fear market and back again -- and that investors should pay more attention to technical signals because there are so many unknowns happening to fundamentals for the foreseeable future. Lamensdorf believes in buying fear and selling greed and expects opportunities for both during volatile market swings ahead. Also on the show, Brian Kersmanc of GQG Partners notes that investors 'can't predict when it's going to rain, but can build arks,' and suggests getting defensive, diversifying across asset classes and countries and going 'where the data points lead you.' Plus Mark Hamrick of Bankrate.com discusses how Americans feel their personal financial standing is after three years of the Trump Administration, and David Brady of Brady Investment Counsel talks growth investing in the Market Call.

Michael Falk of Focus Consulting Group returns to the show for another intimate life and money discussion. Dealing with ALS or Lou Gehrig's Disease, Falk explains why he doesn't think today's investors should be wasting time and money on bonds, noting that he won't buy any during the short time he has left but why younger, healthier people shouldn't buy them either. He also discusses how the pandemic and the advancing disease has, again, changed some of his priorities and his abilities to accomplish them. Also on the show, David Goodsell of the Natixis Investment Managers' Center for Investor Insight discusses his group's latest survey on investor attitudes, Mark Blyth discusses his new book, 'Angrynomics,' and the need for society to harness its anger to create change, and David Trainer talks about why a home-builder that the market thinks is headed for trouble is actually an attractive buy right now.

Money manager Jim O'Shaughnessy -- the best-selling author of 'What Works on Wall Street' -- says that investors can look back through history to see that the United States has come through 'some really scary things.' which is why his outlook hasn't and won't change. He's expecting to ride out the current stock market and economic concerns, betting on the American people to 'figure stuff out.' Also on the show, Larry Antonatos of Brookfield Asset Management discusses real assets and which ones he expects to perform well heading into 2021, Jim Welsh of Smart Portfolios talks the market's technicals and expects a short-term pullback before the Standard and Poor's 500 index rebounds to new highs around Labor Day, and John Barr of the Needham Growth and Needham Aggressive Growth Funds talks stocks in the Market Call.

Crit Thomas, global market strategist at Touchstone Investments, says that the market has written off 2020 and is looking out to 2021, meaning that upcoming corporate guidance is likely to have more market impact than soon-to-be-released economic numbers. Thomas noted that the market's rebound -- which he warns could be affected sharply by coronavirus news concerning a resurgence of afflicted Americans -- has been so strong and fast that it has brought most of the market to unattractive pricing levels. While Thomas is worried about the potential for short-term market troubles, he suggests that investors lengthen their time horizon because the long lens makes it much easier to keep risk and daily market volatility in proper perspective. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com suggests an exchange-traded fund made up of 'fallen knives,' Ted Rossman of CreditCards.com discusses travel-credit cards and whether they are worth their fees at a time when few cardholders are traveling, and Jerry Parker of Chesapeake Capital talks stocks in the Market Call.

In an extended Big Interview, Dan Fuss -- vice chairman of Loomis Sayles and Co., and a leading bond fund manager for more than half a century -- says that investors should not feel that bonds can play their traditional role as a portfolio safety net right now because fixed-income investments can't provide the level of yield investors typically expect. Fuss says the market 'is far more dangerous on the credit side than people know.' Also on the show, Catherine Yoshimoto of FTSE Russell discusses the 'Russell Reconstitution' process, which will reshape Russell's indexes while making this Friday one of the biggest volume days of the year, and Charles Norton of the Vitium Global Fund discusses sin stocks -- alcohol, gaming, tobacco and defense companies -- in the Market Call.

Mark Newton of Newton Advisors says that while markets are poised to move higher into July, they face a challenging path to continue rising as the economy reopens. Newton favors health care stocks and commodities, but dislikes financials. Also on the show, Alessandro Valentini of Causeway Capital Management discusses what it will take for value investing to finally deliver superior results to growth stocks. Warning, he said it could take a long time, noting that low interest rates make it more difficult for value to get any traction. Greg McBride of Bankrate.com discusses the financial regrets many people have about their financial preparedness for the global pandemic, and Tom Plumb of the Plumb Funds talks stock in the Market Call.

Stephanie Kelton, an economist whose recent book 'The Deficit Myth' has moved onto the best-seller lists, says that the many real problems facing the country -- including but not limited to the coronavirus pandemic, the loss of jobs and health care and benefits for many workers, and more -- can be solved or helped by the government increasing targeted spending, but she notes that concerns about such spending creating a bigger deficit problem are overblown. The deficit, she notes, is a number without 'good' or 'bad' attached. Also on the show, Jonathan Treussard of Research Affiliates talks about the challenges of and benefits to keeping a long-term investment mindset, Megan Fielding of Nuveen talks about how the surge in interest in social investing is being driven by improved performance in ESG funds, and David Trainer of New Constructs looks at a stock that he thinks is dramatically undervalued now.

David Jilek, chief investment strategist at Gateway Investment Advisers, says that high valuations and disrupted earnings make the market now riskier than it was before the global pandemic, and while that won't necessarily create a crash it will make the indexes more susceptible to volatility spikes and large impacts from small disruptions. With trade tensions, oil-pricing wars, the election and a slew of economic numbers all ahead in the news feed, he warns that the market could be uncomfortable for the foreseeable future. Also on the show, D.R.Barton Jr.. of Straight-Up Profits says technical analysis suggests that the market's rebound may have been too much, too soon and that he'd be surprised if there wasn't a major drawdown before the year ends, Zach Forman of Griffin Capital Securities talks interval funds and how illiquidity is actually seen as a plus in current market conditions, and Chris Armbruster of Kayne Anderson Rudnick talks mid-cap stocks in the Market Call.

Sam Stovall, chief investment strategist at CFRA Research, says that the stock market is getting 'a BTE bounce' -- better than expected -- but that it's not following its usual seasonal patterns which tend to show weakness in the summertime. Stovall says that the market is rotating the way he'd expect from a downturn like the one experienced in March, but that the 'bizarro' market is trading in reverse of what he'd expect both in terms of the industries and sectors that are in favor and the timing within the year. Still, Stovall says that investors and economists are acting like they expect a V-shaped recovery and he thinks they likely are right, for now. In another Big Interview today, Michael Mullaney of Boston Partners also is optimistic about the market, for now, though he notes that the market has been reacting to virus news and has been taking the rest of the news -- including the potential election results -- lightly for now. Also on the show, Tom Lydon makes a gambling and Internet gaming fund his 'ETF of the Week," and Peter Colis of Ethos discusses the 'Financial Legacy Index.'

Scott Wren, senior global market strategist at the Wells Fargo Investment Institute, says that he expects the Standard and Poor's 500 to be between 3,400 and 3,600 by the end of 2021, meaning that the market will be volatile without a lot of upside as it heads back toward a fully functioning economy. Wren noted that economic data has been better than expected, which has helped the market and investors avoid the worst of worst-case outcomes. Also on the show, author Scott McLean discusses the importance of getting your personal team of financial advisers to work together and the cost of having planners, tax preparers and others who are not on the same page, and Patrick Healey of Caliber Financial Partners discusses the barbell investment strategy he uses for stock portfolios in the Market Call.

Adam Grimes, president of Talon Advisors, says that rapid snap-back after the stock market's big March swoon was the 'least-expected outcome' from a sharp decline, and is symbolic of just how hard it is to make accurate technical forecasts right now. Grimes says the Federal Reserve's clear intention 'to do whatever it talks as long as it takes' has created significant market distortions, leaving more unknowns at this point, which should have investors on edge. Also on the show, Wayne Wicker, chief investment officer at VantagePoint Investment Advisors gave his outlook for the market, Vivian Tsai of the College Saving Foundation covers her organization's survey on how students see college plans and careers changing in the wake of the global pandemic, and Nick Raich of The Earnings Scout talks earnings trends and stocks in the Market Call.

Long-time Wall Street observer Charles Biderman says that the current market is showing signs of craziness that should scare investors, with companies seeing revenue declines that might bankrupt a business in ordinary conditions but that Wall Street investors are bidding up now. He urges caution and suggests a heavy dose of research for anyone wading into the market now, because the market seems to be inflating a bubble while ignoring that these are bubbly conditions. Also on the show, David Goodsell of the Natixis Investment Managers' Center for Investor Insight on their latest poll of institutional investors, David Trainer of New Constructs covers an attractive stock rather than heading for trouble in the Danger Zone, and Justin Carbonneau, partner at Validea.com talks gurus and the value behind their strategies in the Market Call.

Axel Merk, president and chief investment officer for the Merk Funds,says that with market volatility and uncertainty picking up, investors should focus on their process and should stick with their plan rather than jumping around chasing either additional returns or greater safety right now. He notes that investors whose process is not working right now are the ones who are are so nervous that they can't sleep soundly; he recommends adding gold and diversifying portfolios to improve the sleep factor. Also on the show, author and technical analyst Michael Sincere says he thinks the market is 'in real trouble right now,' noting that he would not be surprised if it retests March lows because 'it went up too far too fast' only to see the uptrend stall out this week. Michael Spactacco of Bancroft Capital says that changes to the way closed-end funds are issued makes new offerings attractive right out of the box, and Charlie Bobrinskoy of Ariel Investments talks value investing in the Market Call.

Brent Wilsey of Wilsey Asset Management say that while the current market reminds him a bit of the tech bust of 2000 -- when many people thought that because the market had gone higher that it would just keep going higher -- he does believe that the worst of the effects of the coronavirus pandemic are behind us. Still, he notes in the Market Call that investors should expect some trouble ahead and be prepared to ride it out, especially in market areas that have not been going gangbusters lately, such as banking and insurance companies. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com looks at the new ETF version of a popular mutual fund that has been around for nearly three decades, Jacqui Kearns of Affinity Federal Credit Union talks about the need for families feeling the financial crunch of the pandemic to have the hard discussions, and Sarah Foster of Bankrate.com gives her quick take on how people facing the end of unemployment benefits should respond while the money is still flowing.

Paul Zemsky, chief investment officer for multi-asset strategies at Voya Investment Management, says that with the market near record highs despite earnings that are below expectations, it's not surprising that many observers think that stocks are overvalued now. He doesn't see things that way, noting that stocks are a good opportunity -- especially small caps and international stocks which have been the laggards in the recent rally -- while lightening up on bonds, except for corporates where he sees some improved return potential ahead. Also on the show, Harvard professor Rebecca Henderson talks about her book 'Reimagining Capitalism in a World on Fire,' and Chris Carter, portfolio manager for the Buffalo Mid Cap Fund makes his debut in the Market Call.

In a recent column, Chuck said that financial advisers who accepted PPP loans during the coronavirus pandemic were lacking in character. Barry Ritholtz, a leading financial adviser whose $1.3 billion wealth-management firm accepted PPP loans, is 'on the other side' from Chuck and gives his reasoning for taking the loans as he and Chuck cover the issues buried behind the paperwork in the government loan program. Also on the show, Jack Kleinhenz of the National Retail Federation talks about the National Association for Business Economics' second-quarter survey of expectations, and Andy Braun of Pax Large Cap Fund talks big companies and social investing in the Market Call.

Julia Carlson, chief executive officer at the Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group, says that investors should be riding the wave of renewed optimism and the stock market that has recovered from March lows, but she says there will be a longer-term price to pay, and that investors should be preparing for the long-term fallout from current stimulus efforts,which could be higher taxes and rising inflation, which she expects to see late next year or in 2022. Also on the show, Mark Hamrick of Bankrate.com discusses the implications and fallout from the May jobs report, David Trainer talks about a stock he likes as it emerges from the pandemic economy, and Jim Lowell of the Fidelity Investor newsletter talks about mutual funds in the Market Call..

Alan Gayle of Via Nova Investment Management says that while investors should be pleased with pleased with the market's rally from March lows, he expects trouble ahead, noting that the rally may be early given the prospects for real economic growth as the economy reopens from the coronavirus shutdown. 'We need to fell better,' he says in explaining why his cash holdings are up, 'but I don't think we can feel great at this stage.' Also on the show, Todd Rosenbluth of CFRA Research talks ETFs in the Market Call, Leo Leydon of Financial Focus Advisory Services says why he does not like the look of the market's technicals and is expecting a pullback, and Phillip Goldstein of Bulldog Investors discusses why a recent Securities and Exchange Commission decision could be a death knell for activist investing in closed-end funds.

Ken McAtamney, portfolio manager for the William Blair Global Leaders Fund, says that the resumption of activity and the unlocking of businesses means that, sequentially, the economy will pick up speed quarter after quarter. While the economy will resume a low-growth trajectory, the market can move forward and he says he expects it to do that while avoiding a major meltdown over the next few years. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a new momentum-oriented fund his 'ETF of the Week,' Chuck answers an unusual question about using credit cards, and Craig Hodges of the Hodges Funds says in the Market Call that value and small-cap stocks have started a comeback.

Chris Huemmer, senior investment strategist at Flexshares, and the FlexShares Quality Dividend Index, says that dividend income streams may become disconnected with stock prices, and that investors shouldn't chase yield but also need to evaluate dividend cuts and suspensions to see if the moves are temporary or caused by real financial difficulties. Also on the show, author Chip Munn talks 'The Retirement Remix,' and Giorgio Caputo, senior fund manager and head of multi-asset value for J.O. Hambro Capital Management talks fixed-income investments and warns about the potential pitfalls of using business-development companies to increase yield now.

Jeffrey Bierman, chief market technician at TheoTrade.com, says that the stock market is completing a cycle and working its way toward a top, but that investors should be prepared for what happens next, which could be a 'garden-variety' pullback of about 20 percent, an extreme decline that re-tests recent lows or a move toward a 'zombie economy' and protracted, extended market trouble. While nothing in the market's charts and technicals suggests the doomsday scenario, Bierman notes that the magnitude of the worst downturns often catch experienced analysts by surprise. Also on the show, Jeff James of Driehaus Capital talks small-cap stocks, Rob Spivey of Valens Research makes his debut talking stocks in the Market Call, and Chuck answers a question about pet insurance.

Jason Browne, president of Alexis Investment Partners, says that investors should be tactical given current market conditions, which means having more exposure to stocks now -- at a point when economic woes will be revealed as the business world reopens -- than they did as the market was going through troubles at the start of pandemic conditions. Also on the show, Ken Tumin of DepositAccounts.com talks about short- and long-term savings rates, author Christopher Robertson discusses the nation's health-insurance system and its inadequacies, and David Trainer of New Constructs puts a mutual fund that he says isn't all it's cracked up to be into the 'Danger Zone.'

Bill Stone of Stone Investment Partners says that as the economy starts to crank up again, the market is likely to respond positively, even as investors know that the growth numbers will look good only because they're being compared against economic stoppage. Eventually, however, Stone says the market will want to see good numbers; because those numbers could be elusive, he says investors will want to maintain a balanced, diversified strategy while they see how any recovery unfolds. Also on the show, Trip Miller of Gullane Capital Partners talks value investing in the Market Call, John Kosar of Asbury Research gives his technical outlook, and Andrew Kerai of RiverNorth Capital Management discusses why he thinks the credit market offers a uniquely good opportunity now.

Tony Tanner, portfolio manager with the Aquila Group of Funds, says that the troubled economy and lower interest rates will hit the bond market and should convince investors to diversify their fixed-income holdings; unlike many bond-industry watchers, Tanner notes that he is not expecting a big wave of defaults, though he said credit-quality will be challenged. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com talks about hot pet-health companies with his pick for the ETF oft he Week, Ryan Breslow of Bolt.com discusses his firm's most recent survey on consumer behavior, and Tim Fortier of Drawbridge Strategies discusses what his Market Demand Indicator currently shows about where the market is headed.

Joe Quinlan, head of CIO market strategy for Merrill Lynch and Bank of America Private Bank, says that global public spending on health care has been stagnant for the last two decades, and the pandemic has highlighted infrastructures and governments that were not prepared to protect their people and deal with a crisis. While Wall Street has largely ignored the issues, he says there is a clear link between countries that have sufficient health care to maintain hope and the markets with the best returns, which is why he suggests focusing on developed markets, including the United States. Also on the show, Chuck tackles an audience member's question on rebalancing, Catherine Collinson of the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies discusses how the pandemic is affecting long-term savings, and Peter Tuz of Chase Investment Counsel talks growth stocks int he Market Call.

Laura Geritz, chief executive officer at Rondure Global Advisors, says that the U.S. and China are holding up the world economy with their spending during the coronavirus pandemic, but she cautions that if those economies falter -- and they have little room to expand spending -- it will be hard to find stocks to buy there. She prefers countries with no reserve currency now, nations where she finds that the consumer has controlled their 'animal spirits' and there is room to grow spending, noting that most emerging markets but China qualify as having growth potential even amid slowing growth worldwide. Also on the show, Sarah Berger, writer at MagnifyMoney.com discusses how many consumers are already tapping retirement accounts to get through the viral economy, author Zachary D. Carter discusses 'The Price of Peace: Money, Democracy, and the Life of John Maynard Keynes,' and Chuck answers a question from an audience member on how to prioritize withdrawals from savings.

Jason Thomas, chief economist at AssetMark, says that the structural and societal changes and advancements that have allowed the economy to not be in more-significant trouble thanks to the coronavirus pandemic are also laying the base for an economy that ultimately will emerge strong, with stocks providing the best chance to come out ahead several years down the line. He notes that the United States -- despite the issues it faces -- is positioned 'to come out of this as one of the winners.' Also on the show, Matt Hougan of Bitwise Investments talks cryptocurrencies and how bitcoin is proving its value as an alternative to gold and a portfolio diversifier, Chris Vermeulen of The Technical Traders says the technicals show the market to be 'in a no-man's land between a bull and bear market' and while he expects a dip back to March lows, he believes there are good opportunities for traders. Also, Kelly Thompson of Direct Lending Deals talks about how the economic slowdown has affected the middle-market financing of business-development companies and how she expects BDCs to restructure and bounce back.

Bryce Doty, senior portfolio manager at Sit Fixed Income Advisors, says that the bond market is particularly difficult right now but that domestic issues remain stronger than the rest of the world, and could be buoyed by rates that rise slightly sooner than many people expect. He notes that with the Federal Reserve committed to keeping interest rates in positive territory, rates really only have one direction to go from here. Also on the show, Michael Robinson, chief technology strategist at Money Map Press says in the Market Call that technology companies aren't just good investments right now, they are the reason the economy has been able to avoid a depression, noting that if it weren't for technological advancements the country could not have done as much work-at-home commerce as it has throughout the current pandemic. Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a gold fund his 'ETF of the Week,' and Matt Schulz of CompareCards.com on how subscription spending of all types has ramped up amid social distancing.

Simeon Hyman, global investment strategist at ProShares, says that the backdrop of economic challenges has made dividend income more important than ever for investors, but the market concerns also have companies suspending and cutting distributions. He discusses dealing with the stocks that have trimmed dividends as well as the sectors that he expects to lead the pack going forward. Also on the show, Brian Dumaine, author of 'Bezonomics: How Amazon Is Changing Our Lives and What the World's Best Companies Are Learning from It,' and Mike Brown of LendEDU. Plus Chuck gives his harsh assessment of financial advisory firms that have accepted Small Business Association loans to get through the pandemic.

Greg Valliere, chief U.S. policy strategist at AGF Investments, says that the markets have good reason to be optimistic long-term, despite the economic issues that are surfacing now, noting that 'This is not going to be a long depression, it's going to be a really ugly brief recession.' Also on the show, Tom Florence, chief executive officer at 361 Capital, covers the role that alternative investments should be playing in a portfolio now, William Delwiche of Baird Investments talks technical analysis at a time when so many market influences are not visible or measurable in the daily charts, and Meredith Stoddard of Fidelity Investments discusses investors' market sentiments during the pandemic.

David Trainer, president of New Constructs, said that insurance giant Allstate Corp. is an attractive stock despite a significant recent decline resulting mostly from the market's reaction to the coronavirus pandemic. Trainer -- who normally warns investors away from securities in the Danger Zone segment -- made Allstate one of his attractive stocks, noting that the company is significantly overvalued, with the market apparently believing it will never again reach the highs of recent years, while Trainer believes the stock is poised to exceed those previous levels. Also on the show, Gene Tannuzzo of Columbia Threadneedle Investments talks about interest rates and how the Fed is playing the current crisis straight from the disaster handbook, Greg McBride of Bankrate.com discusses how Americans' finances are faring as the pandemic stretches on, and Ben Johnson of Morningstar Inc. covers ETFs in the Market Call.

Pamela Woo, head of U.S. equities at BNP Paribas Asset Management, says that investors need to trust their allocations and plans while also looking for stocks that will come through the current recession positioned for a strong future. She expects to see a recovery that gets off to a hot start as the economy reawakens, but that won't recapture previous levels for e foreseeable future when the pandemic has ended. Also on the show, Matt Freund of the Calamos Long-Short Equity and Dynamic Income Fund on rebounding from the recent bottoms, Dan Zanger of ChartPattern.com talks about the value of technical analysis in unprecedented market times, and Mark Fleming, chief economist at First American Financial Corp., compares the way the real estate market is responding to conditions created by the coronavirus pandemic and the voluntary economic slowdown with the way it reacted to the 2008 financial crisis, which was triggered by problems in the housing and real estate sectors.

Mike Lippert, portfolio manager at Baron Opportunity, says that investors can still find opportunities in a troubled market that tends to have investors clustering in a few areas, including cloud computing and other technologies that are helping people shelter at home currently but which stand to benefit from a more-permanent, long-term shift to independent work spaces. Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com likes the same space, making the very hot WisdomTree Cloud Computing ETF his 'ETF of the Week.' Also, Chuck takes an audience question about prioritizing spending and savings, and Chris Retzler, manager of the Needham Small Cap Growth Fund -- the-performing traditional mutual fund of 2019 and the leading small-cap fund again this year -- talks stocks in the Market Call.

Matt Lloyd, chief investment strategist at Advisors Asset Management, says that trying to find clarity in the current economic situation is 'like trying to put in eye drops while you're surfing,' but he says that he doesn't expect to see the much-discussed U- or V-shaped bottom to any troubles, saying instead that there will be a square-root sign shape, meaning volatile drops and recoveries before things flatten out for a while. Also on the show, Natalie Campisi of Bankrate.com discusses buying and selling homes amid coronavirus precautions, Chuck answers a question about whether these times call for 'extra diversification,' and Tucker Walsh of the Polen US Small Company Growth Fund makes his debut in the Market Call.

David Tice, chief investment officer at the Ranger Active Bear Fund, says that the market will re-test its lows and break through them as it goes through a long, volatile decline. He says investors should not expect a 'standard, garden-variety recession,' but instead will see a depression, though he does not expect a market crash to be part of that problem, noting that the market will grind down as the pandemic economy plays out. Also on the show, author Julia Hobsbawm talks about simplifying your life and changing your relationship with technology, and David Snowball of MutualFundObserver.com talks funds in the Market Call.

Jeffrey Cleveland, chief economist for Payden and Rygel Investment Management, reacts to Friday's massive unemployment numbers by noting that the good news in the report -- that 78 percent of the jobless say their personal trouble is temporary -- may be a bit too optimistic, with the reality being that 40 to 50 percent of the lost jobs may be permanent or longer than anticipated, which would slow any recovery. Also on the show, Mike Brown of LendEDU.com discusses troubles consumers are having paying off student loans right now and how forgiveness programs are working, David Trainer of New Constructs discusses why he thinks passive investors are due for some heightened pain ahead, and John Bonnanzio, editor at Fidelity Monitor and Insight newsletter talks funds and ETFs in the Market Call.

Frank Holmes, chief investment officer at US Global Investors, says that investors heading for cash are being too conservative because the market is creating opportunities in areas that are troubled, like airlines, but he is also expecting the economic stimulus efforts to generate inflationary pressure that will make gold particularly attractive during volatile market times head. Also0 on the show, John Cole Scott of Closed-End Fund Advisors and the Active Investment Company Alliance compares closed-end funds with non-listed interval funds, Matt Zajechowski of Digital Third Coast discusses how Americans' grocery-shopping habits have changed during the quarantine, and Leon Wilfan of Lahardan Financial talks stocks in the Market Call.

Wall Street veteran Bob Doll, chief equity strategist at Nuveen Asset Management, came back to Money Life revising the forecasts he made for 2020 because coronavirus circumstances changed so much about the market and economy. Revisiting, altering or renewing his predictions for the remainder of the year, he says the market should ultimately establish its bottom in April or May, with the short recession ending in time for the market to start a long recovery by year's end. Doll said that earnings, which have cratered and will continue collapsing through the second quarter, will 'rise smartly' by the fourth quarter. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a brand-name core index fund his 'ETF of the Week,' and Chris Cordaro, chief investment officer at Regent Atlantic, discusses what he has been telling clients to help them navigate the crisis.

Brian Levitt, global market strategist for Invesco, says he expects a rally in small-caps and value stocks as the new economic cycle starts, but he believes those sectors will receive as new growth takes over. Long-term, he believes it will be the solid growth companies -- the ones that have real solutions and that can bring that ingenuity to the market -- that will lead the way forward to a recovery. Also on the show, author Philip Coggan talks about globalization and the development of the worldwide economy, Sarah Berger of MagnifyMoney.com discusses a survey showing on how confused Americans are around fees on their financial accounts, and Chuck answers audience questions about credit reports.

Brent Schutte of Northwestern Mutual Wealth Management says that the viral economy is, effectively, a four-step process that we are half-way through, with re-opening the economy and creating a vaccine for coronavirus the next steps. Meanwhile, he notes that upcoming bad economic news is easy to overlook because 'we cause the economic data to be bad,' but it will be watched carefully -- and be important to investors -- as Americans go back to work and the long-lasting impacts of the shutdown are realized. In the Market Call, Mark Yusko of Morgan Creek Asset Management says that 'The world is very delicate right now, and patience will be rewarded for investors,' noting that he is looking tactically at gold, cash, master limited partnerships and more as buying opportunities. Also on the show, JJ Kinahan of TD Ameritrade talks about his firm's Investor Movement Index, which shows that individuals have mostly done the right thing in this slowdown by not throwing away long-held strategies to avoid short-term pain.

Howard Steven Friedman, author of "Ultimate Price: The Value We Place on Life," says that society and government are wrestling with a balance and trade-off that comes with no hard-and-fast rules or math when it decides on the value of life versus the benefits of re-opening the economy. He discusses his book, the pandemic and how governments have traditionally made decisions on the value of lives. Also on the show, Jill Gonzalez of WalletHub talks about a survey showing that 58 million Americans are spending more money shopping while in quarantine than they did before they sheltered at home, David Trainer of New Constructs highlights two troubled stocks that he thinks are headed for a rebound and, in the Market Call, Jonathan Smucker of Marietta Investment Partners explains why he will be riding out the pandemic mostly in big, boring, brand-name stocks.

Terri Spath, chief investment officer at the Sierra Mutual Funds, says that the stimulus actions of the Federal Reserve Bank helped to set a floor on the market, which means that the 'lows are in for the year.' That doesn't mean the market can't go down from here, but rather that she doesn't expect it to fall past the lows set in the March downturn; with that limited downside, Spath says that remaining patient in long-term investments when volatility is up over the summer will be investors' biggest challenge. Also on the show, Bill Meyers of Nuveen discusses how kleverage works in closed-end funds, Leonard Wright of AICPA talks about Americans; waning personal financial satisfaction, and Stan Haithcock -- "Stan the Annuity Man" -- looks at annuity sales pitches and what consumers should listen to and the deals they should avoid.

Tom McIntyre of McIntyre, Freedman and Flynn in Orleans, Mass. -- the first-ever Market Call guest -- returns to the show as Money Life celebrates its eighth anniversary to discuss the ways he factors news and events into investment decisions, and notes that processing the virus economy and evaluating changing corporate guidance makes for confusing times for investors. He said that with oil prices in the headlines, he expects to see a 'shocking rebound in oil, coming somewhere in the next cycle when the economy is recovering.' Also on the show, tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a genomics fund his pick for ETF of the Week, Brian Krawez of Scharf Investments talks markets, and Jean Statler of the Alliance for Lifetime Income discusses survey data showing that investors may not control the timing of their retirement nearly as much as they expect to.

Sarah Ketterer, chief executive officer at Causeway Capital Management, says that the most cyclical stocks -- the ones at the 'epicenter of pain for the coronavirus -- are relatively low-risk bargains for opportunistic investors. She notes that airlines, travel companies, tourism businesses and hospitality and hotel firms -- with stocks down 40 to 60 percents and yet to have any real bounce-back from the March decline -- are worthy of consideration while the blood keeps running in the streets if the balance sheet is strong, noting that if businesses like cruise lines can 'make it another 18 months without a penny of revenue, that's really interesting.' Also on the show, Christine Benz, director of personal finance at Morningstar gives her take on what investors should be doing to get through the pandemic, Jeff Lipton of Oppenheimer and Co. discusses how the potential for states' bankruptcies would change and could impact the muuni bond market, and Matt Schulz of CompareCards.com covers a survey on Americans' household credit status.

Zach Jonson, chief investment officer at Stack Financial management, says that investors should be looking for stocks that they can expect to recover over 18 months to two years, but despite the market's decline and potential rough times through the current economic downturn, he warned that any market troubles may not represent easy buying opportunities for investors, noting that it won't be as simple as just buying into dips to trigger a fast portfolio recovery. Also on the show, Dmitriy Katsnelson of Wealthspire Advisors discusses what he is telling clients right now, Dr. Billy Hensley of the National Endowment for Financial Education discusses a survey revealing alarmingly high levels of stress among American savers and investors, and Eric Clark of the Rational Dynamic Brands fund talks stocks in the Market Call.

Jim Golan, co-portfolio manager at William Blair Large-Cap Growth Fund, said that investors looking to be opportunistic now need to use a long lens and look for companies that will be in a better position than they are today, noting that the interim period -- as stocks and the market finish processing the hibernation economy and return to something more normal -- will be volatile and make it difficult to judge just how strong investment picks are, but that strong balance sheets and good fundamentals will pay off for investor who can buy them for now and hold onto them long enough. Also on the show, Ted Rossman of Creditcards.com discusses how lenders are closing unused credit cards and lines of credit and how consumers can protect themselves, David Trainer of NewConstructs.com highlights a stock that he finds attractive in these market conditions, and Jorden Waldrep of TrueMark Investments talks stocks in the Market Call.

Steven Durlauf, economics professor at the University of Chicago, says the perceived trade-offs between re-starting the economy and continuing quarantine is, in the short run, illusory. Lack of shelter-in-place, Durlauf says, creates such bad consequences for the health system -- and a re-started economy won't recover until everyone leaves home and participates fully -- that the choice between the two sides is not a true trade-off. Durlauf says that the current radical uncertainty would leave him surprised if the economy recovers in less than 18 to 36 months. In a 'Technical Difficulties' interview, Avi Gilburt of Elliott Wave Trader says that the current 2,700 to 2,900 range on the Standard and Poor's 500 is a 'battle zone,' and that if the market falls below 2,690, it could drop to the 2,060 range, while if it rallies and breaks through the 2,900 resistance, it could return to the 3,100 level in the next few weeks. Also on the show, Adam McCabe of Aberdeen Standard Investments talks about emerging markets and whether they have an edge having moved past the worst of the viral curve, and author Dan Simon discusses his book 'The Money Hackers' and the changing landscape of money, cash and global financial technology.

FeiFei Li, head of equities at Research Affiliates says the COVID-19 outbreak was a catalyst that turned questionable market conditions worse, but that the root causes for concern are still in place. Li, however, is bullish long-term even if she sees the market as being likely to take a big leg down from current levels; she says that the bear market of February was too quick and shallow, but it left the market at more attractive levels than at the end of 2019 or in February before the economic shutdown. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com with the ETF of the Week, Ken Tumin of DepositAccounts.com talking online savings rates, and Josh Pearl, author of "The Little Book of Investing Like the Pros: 5 Steps for Picking Stocks."

Andrew Beer of the iM DBi Hedge Strategy and the iM DBI Managed Futures Strategy ETFs, says that the long-lasting impacts from the global coronavirus shutdown will hit different areas, sectors, industries and countries in very different ways as recovery begins. While investors are right to be expecting trouble, Beer says that the fallout -- particularly if resources get scarce and fights for them become acute -- could create 'an enormous amount of volatility,' which also will create tremendous opportunities. Also on the show, Steve Resch of Finance of America Reverse discusses reverse mortgages and how they could become an increasingly important tool for retirees and near-retirees during any prolonged downturn, Health Silverman of Stessa.com who covers his site's survey of real estate investment trends, and Greg Hammer of Hammer Financial Group, who gives a quick take on the tax-law changes created during the crisis and what consumers should know about them.