Money Life with Chuck Jaffe

David Snowball, founder of MutualFundObserver.com, says that the current market conditions are challenging investors to make sure they have a handle on what they own and why they own it, because they can't depend on the Federal Reserve to manage a soft landing to current economic challenges. It's one of many highlights as Money Life wraps up its coverage from the Morningstar Investment Conference with more pushback to T. Rowe Price manager David Giroux's Day One comments about the perils and follies of international investing coming from Andrew Foster of the Seafarer Funds and Michael Campagna from Moerus Capital. Also on the show, bond fund manager Janet Rilling from Allspring Global and Fidelity's Sammy Simnegar of Fidelity International Capital Appreciation and Fidelity Magellan. Plus Tom Lydon revisits last week's inflation-driven choice by making a stagflation play his ETF of the Week.

Money Life is back for Day 2 from the Morningstar Investment Conference, and the action heats up with more interviews covering wider grounds. A day after T. Rowe Price star manager David Giroux said there's no reason for investors to invest internationally, Chautauqua Capital's David Lubchenco will come back with a counter-attack, talking about how and why foreign stocks are poised to outperform domestics in the next market cycle. Also on the show, Christine Benz of Morningstar on how current market conditions impact retirement planning; two interviews on dividend investing with Scott Davis of Columbia Threadneedle covering domestic stocks and Sid Bhargava of Matthews Asia on overseas opportunities; Ed Rosenberg of American Century ETFs talks about exchange-traded funds and Jonathan Good of the Baird Funds dives into what's happening with small and mid-cap stocks.

Money Life travels to the Morningstar Investment Conference in Chicago, where David Giroux, portfolio manager for T. Rowe Price Capital Appreciation, kicks things off by saying that most investors have no good reason to buy international stocks, noting that they can instead purchase U.S. multi-nationals, and pointing out that the recent market downturn has made many of those companies significantly more attractive now than they have been in years. The rest of today's lineup from the conference: Will Jacobsen of Toggle.ai -- a fintech investment platform company -- Tony Tursich of Calamos Investments discussing ESG investing, Pete Dietrich of Morningstar Indexes talks about the evolution toward personalized indexing, and Mary Ellen Stanek of the Baird Funds talks about bond investing in a high-inflation, rising-rate market.

Paul Dlugosch, portfolio manager for the Buffalo High-Yield, says that the high-inflation and rising-rate environment has been mostly priced in to the high-yield bond market, which will make the quality and strength of corporate earnings the big determinant of whether the junk-bond market can recover or if it will face troubles that linger to 2023 and beyond. Also on the show, David Trainer of New Constructs fills the Danger Zone with mutual funds that get good star ratings from research firm Morningstar, but which get dangerous ratings from his firm, author Tony Delauney talks about "The No-Regrets Retirement Roadmap," and Corie Colliton, senior industry analyst for Security.org discusses the site's recent survey showing how many people are now investing in cryptocurrency and which surprising demographic groups are joining the trend.

Veteran technical analyst Martin Pring of Pring Research says the market is showing signs that the current bear market could be part of a larger, secular bear market. If indeed those long-term trends are bad -- so that the current downturn is part of a larger downtrend rather than a blip in the long-running bull market -- Pring says the current downturn will stick around for 12 to 18 months. Pring also notes that he believes the Bitcoin bubble has popped, though he's not expecting any kind of rebound until more damage has been done to the price of cryptocurrency. Everett Millman of Gainesville Coins -- mostly talking about precious metals investing -- also weighs in on Bitcoin, as does Big Interview guest Jim Masturzo of Research Affiliates, who discusses how investors can and should use alternatives to make progress amid the market troubles. The show also features Bill Kelly, president of the CAIA Association, discussing how many investors place too much importance on having daily liquidity in the funds, without realizing that having short-term access -- which they typically don't use -- for investments they intend to hold for decades has a real cost.

Tom Lydon, chief executive at ETFTrends.com, says that with inflation entrenched in the economy right now and not looking like it will go away for several years, investors need to take steps to deal with the impact that global-supply chain issues and more are having on their investment holdings. To that end, he made the VanEck Inflation Allocation fund his "ETF of the Week," noting that the real-asset strategy will diversify a portfolio by going beyond just using gold as an inflation hedge, mixing in commodities and other real assets that won't be so in-synch with the market. Also talking about exchange-traded funds, Dodd Kittsley, national director for Davis Advisors, discusses the evolution of active ETFs and whether investors should expect active strategies to outperform the passive in today's hyper-sensitive market. Danetha Doe, economist for Clever Real Estate, talks about a survey of college students showing that they are wildly inaccurate in the earnings they project for themselves once they graduate and join the real world, and Chuck answers questions from the audience spurred by the market's downturn in 2022.

Brian Levitt, global market strategist for Invesco says that there is some good news in the market -- with signs that the bond market is expecting inflation to slow and ease and other indicators showing promise -- but everyone should be watching the impact of Federal Reserve interest-rate hikes to see how long the current doldrums drag on. Levitt noted that less than 25 percent of companies on the New York Stock Exchange are trading above their 200-day moving average, and that the market typically bottoms out when that number reaches 15 percent, but he noted that commodity prices, interest rates and inflation all must moderate before the market gets to a more solid footing. Also on the show, Professor Pelin Pekgun from the Darla Moore School of Business at the University of South Carolina discusses inflation and how supply chain issues typically get resolved so that an economy can break the cycle of rising prices and shortages to return to normal, Ted Rossman of Bankrate.com discusses the record levels of household debt -- but a surprising drop in credit-card debt -- reported Tuesday by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and Andy Behar of As You Sow discusses the group's research showing that many social investment funds aren't practicing what their name says they should preach, holding stocks that don't belong in a fund built around current governance standards.

Chris Zaccarelli, chief investment officer for the Independent Advisor Alliance;, says that the current economic situation is different from the Covid meltdown or other recent difficult times because "This time, the Fed doesn't have your back." As a result, investors should not expect a V-bottom to the downturn and a quick bounceback, and investors should be making marginal changes to their portfolios, playing defense and not relying on a rising tide to raise up indexes in the short- and intermediate term. In the Talking Technicals segment, Willie Delwiche, investment strategist at All Star Charts, says that the market needs to see capitulation before it can start to rebuild, and the recent heavy action has not yet represented that kind of market emotion. Also on the show, portfolio manager Lance Cannon of Hood River Capital Management talks small-cap stocks in the Market Call, and Chuck talks crypto and more in the Weird Financial News.

John Bonnanzio, editor at Fidelity Monitor & Insight, says investors need to be as cautious as possible right now, focusing in on their investment time horizon so that they can ride out the potential downturns on the table in the short- and intermediate-term as the market sorts out the high-inflationary environment. Bonnanzio notes that investors with long time frames may want to consider how some of Fidelity's biggest-name large-cap funds are already in bear market territory, which actually has them priced relatively cheap and poised for a profitable bounce-back once the market sorts current conditions out. Also ont he show, David Trainer of New Constructs puts two stocks in the same industry - Equinix and Digital Realty Trust -- into the Danger Zone, and Larry Swedroe of Buckingham Wealth Partners discusses his latest book, "Your Essential Guide to Sustainable Investing."

Jim Welsh, macro strategist at Smart Portfolios and the author of MacroTides, says he still believes the market can rally during the last half of the year, but he says investors have to respect the current downtrend, which is likely to get worse before any bounceback. Welsh notes that consumer savings should help absorb inflation, business spending is up, demand is higher and he believes the economy has enough internal strength to avoid recession so long as the Federal Reserve doesn't have to raise rates above 2.5 percent. If rates rise higher, Welsh says it could lead to a recession in 2023. Also on the show, John Cole Scott, chief investment officer at Closed-End Fund Advisors discusses how to find the right issues to deal with the rising-rate, high-inflation conditions, Chuck discusses some things that he has never head said by experts during the first 10 years of the show, and Janet Brown of FundX Investment Group discusses funds, ETFs and the "upgrading" investment style in the Market Call.

Alan McKnight, chief investment officer at Regions Asset Management says that "the path forward is different than the path we have been on," and that investors must now keep inflation and interest rates "top of mind" as they rethink what is possible and reasonable for the market. He noted that Regions' forecast of returns of 1.5 to 2 percent annualized gains for bonds and roughly 6 percent average gains for stocks over the next decade, which along with heightened volatility will be hard for many investors to stomach. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes a long-running, big-name dividend-paying fund his ETF of the Week, Chuck answers a listener's question about investing in I-bonds, and advisor Oliver Pursche of Wealthspire talks about stocks and investing defensively in the Market Call.

Lawrence McMillan, president of McMillan Analysis, says that he is seeing signs of a bear market -- which he believes we are in -- in the form of heightened volatility where rallies are in full force one minute and wiped out the next. McMillan says that while the market is showing signs of being oversold, it's not time to act on that yet because only one of the eight primary indicators he tracks is bullish right now, "and it will take a while for them to come around." Also on the show, Bob Powell, the editor of Retirement Daily, talks about how poorly prepared many retirement savers are for dealing with long-term heightened inflation, noting that 'You won't be able to invest your way out of this,' Ted Rossman discusses a Bankrate.com survey on how people are altering summer travel plans based on the economy, and David Brady of Brady Investment Counsel talks about growth investing in the Market Call.

Charles Rotblut, editor of the AAII Journal -- Money Life's all-time leader in guest appearances, but also the person responsible for maintaining the American Association of Individual Investors' sentiment survey -- says that investor optimism over the last three weeks has reached some of the lowest levels seen since the group started its survey in 1987. Rotblut says that when optimism is unusually low, "you tend to see outperformance in the Standard & Poor's 500 over the following six months and 12 months. ... When people are too negative, it's usually a good time to get greedy." But in the Market Call, Stephen McKee of the No-Load Mutual Fund Selection & Timing newsletter says that he still sees too much bullish sentiment and that he doesn't think the market will turn around until investors get negative; until that happens -- and for many months now -- McKee and his newsletter have been bearish. Also on the show, Greg McBride, chief financial analyst for BankRate.com discusses the Federal Reserve's upcoming rate hike and how higher interest rates and rising inflation will affect savers and borrowers in the years ahead.

On the 10th anniversary show for Money Life, legendary bond fund manager Dan Fuss, vice chairman at Loomis Sayles & Co., says that the Federal Reserve is "trapped," and will not be able to fully control inflation and that investors will be living with higher inflation and interest rates "for likely the next 10 years." Fuss compares today's bond market conditions to the Korean War era, and says investors need to adjust their expectations and get used to living with it. Also on the show, David Trainer of New Constructs revisits some of the most successful Danger Zone selections that -- despite being hammered since they were labeled as dangerous -- remain poised for more damage, and money manager Tom McIntyre of McIntyre, Freedman & Flynn, who appeared in the first-ever Money Life Market Call -- is back talking stocks in that segment again today.

Craig Johnson, senior research analyst at Piper Sandler, says that the market's current washout is setting up "a very healthy rally into year-end" that could see the Standard & Poor's 500 finish the year above 4,700, a particularly healthy move because the current pain and decline has longer to go before the turnaround begins. Johnson is currently overweight in energy, basic materials and large-cap technology stocks, and underweight in health care, communications/media stocks and consumer cyclicals. That interview contrasts with Bill Stone, chief investment officer at Glenview Trust, who suggested that investors hold tight to fundamentals and the teachings of Warren Buffett, understanding that while there may be a rally in the market, there is a recession on the horizon, likely arriving after the next year. Also on the show, Nathan Shetty, head of multi-asset for Nuveen, discusses diversifying to generate consistent gains and safety in a low-return environment, and author Scott Nations discusses his new book, "The Anxious Investor; Mastering the Mental Game of Investing"

Frank Holmes, chief executive/chief investment officer for U.S. Global Investors, says current economic and socio-political conditions have the market in the middle of a downturn that could grow into a full-blown recession accompanied by a bear market, but he expects central bankers and politicians to print as much money as is necessary to keep economic engines running and to minimize the setbacks. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com makes the Invesco Water Resources fund -- a long-running fund that is a different kind of play on the natural resources space -- his ETF of the Week and Craig Hodges, chief investment officer for the Hodges Funds, talks bottoms-up investing in stocks in the Market Call.

Thomas Winmill, manager of the Midas Fund, says that while gold has not done well in its traditional role as an inflation hedge over the last year as higher prices have gripped the country, it would be too early to give up on precious metals filling that role, especially as inflation stays in place for longer than was initially expected. Winmill also notes that if the economy heads into a recession, the permanence of gold will elevate it over cryptocurrencies and other hot assets that have been proposed as alternatives to precious metals in troubled times. Also on the show, Rob Williams of the Schwab Center for Financial Research, discusses a recent survey showing how younger generations are re-imagining retirement, resulting in better preparedness for their golden years, even as those times will look different than the standard retirements of the past. In the Market Call, Brent Wilsey of Wilsey Asset Management talks about crunching the numbers on stocks, especially during volatile times like what investors are facing now.

Sameer Samana, senior global market strategist at the Wells Fargo Investment Institute, says that the stock market has been seeing its various drivers falter since last year, starting with uptrends turning to downtrends in developed markets like Europe, then in emerging markets, then small- and mid-cap stocks, and now domestic large-cap stocks. With less than half of the market sectors showing positive trends now, Samana says "This is not a time to be playing offense, this is a much better time to be playing defense." In The Big Interview, Dhaval Joshi, chief strategist at BCA Research, talks about inflation and how he believes the drivers for it have peaked, which should mean it begins easing significantly, even if that doesn't show up in the measures for a while. And in the Market Call, George Young of the Villere Funds talks about long-term investment strategies with small-company stocks.

Economists -- as judged by the latest Business Conditions Survey released today by the National Association for Business Economics -- do not see inflationary pressures subsiding immediately but they believe the damaging impact to the market of high inflation, rising interest rates and global supply-chain issues will stop short of creating a recession in the United States. Economist Lester Jones discusses the survey results, and the prospects for the domestic economy while inflation and war persist. Jason Hsu, chief investment officer at Rayliant Global Advisors, says that the China market is tenuous right now -- with the country dealing with a continuing Covid crisis and also trying to be neutral in the Ukraine War -- but also poised to be a good opportunity for active investors now. Also on the show, Kyle Guske of New Constructs gives us new reasons to dislike Gamestop and Carvana, as he puts them back into the Danger Zone, and Chuck Carlson of Horizon Investment Services -- editor of The DRIP Investor newsletter -- talks stocks in the Market Call.

Zach Jonson, senior portfolio manager for Stack Financial Management, says that inflationary pressures that haven't been seen in over 40 years and the tightest labor market in history mean that what has worked in recent years will not be panning out so well going forward. That means "This is not your father's market," Jonson says, and investors need to go old school and get more defensive, expecting to see some pain before they the market gets positioned for a long-term recovery. Jonson also notes that the average constituent of the NASDAQ Composite Index is down 42 percent from 52-week highs, so while index returns have yet to show substantial drawdowns, a lot of investors have already suffered serious pain, which is likely to get worse from here unless they make defensive moves. Also on the show, Mike Taggart of Taggart Fund Intelligence and the Active Investment Company Alliance, talks about how closed-end funds fared during the rugged first quarter of the year, Derek Izuel of Shelton Capital Management covers international markets and how current events will have long-term impacts over how foreign investments are used and perceived, and Medicare expert Diane Omdahl of Sixty-Five Inc. discusses the importance of shopping around and knowing the rules before buying Medicare supplement insurance coverage.

Before even getting to today's interviews, Chuck discusses the fallout from Netflix losing one-third of its value on Wednesday, and how a big popular security being challenged this way becomes the perfect opportunity for individuals to see if their portfolio has passed a key stress test. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com picks a new fund highlighting the consumer market in India as his ETF of the Week, David Rainey of the Hennessy Focus Fund discusses the market and the challenges of concentrating a portfolio during times with high inflation and rising interest rates, and Patrick Healey, president of Caliber Financial Partners, talks stocks in the Market Call.

Chris Retzler, portfolio manager for the Needham Small Cap Growth Fund, says that current economic conditions impacting growth stocks have weighed particularly heavily on smaller companies, and he expects that pain to continue, worsening about a year out as the economy struggles to digest higher inflation and heightened interest rates. In the Market Call interview, Retzler notes that he expects that tough period to set up some strong buying opportunities that will pay off for long-term investors down the line. In the Big Interview, Rahul Sen Sharma, managing partner at Indxx -- which develops new indices for use measuring the investment world in different ways -- talks about how indexing is evolving, how it's possible to accurately capture something as complex as the Metaverse in a benchmark, and how individual indexes and other measures need to avoid falling into the trap of using a good methodology -- indexing -- but applying it poorly to the investment world. Also, Chuck answers a listener's question about whether debt payoff strategies change in a high-inflation, rising-rate environment.

Chuck plays a recent cold-call conversation in which a representative from "Card Services" suggests that a superior credit history has earned the chance for a credit card that charges zero interest ever, and that offers 20 percent cash back for every purchase. The card may be too good to be true -- though Chuck got multiple offers for it -- but the conversation must be heard to be believed. And it's calls like that -- and other personal financial issues -- that leave many seniors vulnerable to fraud, scams and also family money pressures; in today's Book Interview, Naomi Karp, co-author, "Thinking Ahead Roadmap: A Guide to Keeping Your Money Safe as You Age" discusses the importance of selecting a "financial advocate" and the role they can play as you age. Also on the show, Matt Zajechowski discusses a HomeAdvisor.com survey into how many people would be willing to move into a tiny home, especially if it help them beat the rising cost of housing, plus we revisit a recent conversation with Chris Vermeulen, chief market strategist for The Technical Traders Ltd.

Buck Klintworth, senior vice president and portfolio manager at Chase Investment Counsel, says there "are very few glimmers of hope out there" in the stock market right now, noting that the market currently resembles 2007 when it was reaching highs ahead of the major downturn of 2008. With high inflation and rising interest rates, Klintworth says that "We are sort of playing 'Fear Factor, Stock Market edition,' and when that happens, nothing good happens for people." Klintworth acknowledges that the market might be able to avoid big trouble, but says investors need to recognize that the market currently may be building a top. In the Danger Zone segment, David Trainer of New Constructs says that the recent actions of Elon Musk are not only going to impact the way investors see Tesla, but all meme stocks, and he expects that Musk's dalliance with Twitter will wind up being a catalyst for investors to take a bigger look at fundamentals, creating a major problem for Tesla and other hot stocks. Also on the show, Bob Long of Conversus discusses investments in private equity and the importance of being committed to riding and overcoming "the J-curve" in order to succeed in the space, and Martin Leclerc of Barrack Yard Advisors discusses the importance of companies generating cash as he talks about stocks in the Market Call.

Karl Mills, president of Jurika, Mills & Keifer, says that the high-inflation, rising-rate global economy is challenging investors to buy assets "that float and swim," namely stocks and real estate, because bonds -- the traditional safe asset -- sink in these conditions, with "an almost-guaranteed loss of purchasing power." Mills thinks the market has the potential to rise from now to the end of the year, but says that any rally will be more sector- and industry-specific rather than being an across-the-board higher tide for all. Meanwhile, Jose Torres, senior economist at Interactive Brokers, says that consumers are slowing down and cutting back spending before the Federal Reserve has done much tightening, which he considers a potential warning sign for how the economy could struggle as the central bank grapples with trying to create a proverbial soft landing. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com looks to Brazil with his ETF of the Week, and Ted Rossman of CreditCards.com discusses how consumers are already changing/reducing their summer spending plans.

John Waggoner, financial editor at AARP.org, says that the current wave of inflation -- most recently pegged on Tuesday by the government at 8.5 percent -- is not the same as what older investors remember from the late 1970s and early 1980s, but he cautions those older investors to avoid knee-jerk reactions to higher prices, noting that diversification -- buying undervalued securities, investing in securities delivering long-term income streams, and even holding cash to avoid having to sell anything into current conditions -- remains the time-tested way to avoid getting crunched by volatile markets and troubled economies. Also on the show, Ed Carson, news editor at Investor's Business Daily, discusses the latest IBD/TIPP Economic Optimism Index, which remained in negative territory for the eighth straight month despite a massive, 11 percent uptick in positive sentiment, and Daniel Kern, chief investment officer at TFC Financial Management, talks about mutual funds and ETFs -- and how individuals might be tinkering with portfolios now -- in the Market Call.

Leading retail industry analyst Dana Telsey, chief research officer at Telsey Advisory Group, says that the retail industry is poised to overcome high inflation, rising interest rates, supply-chain issues stretched by Russia's invasion of Ukraine and more thanks to culture and structural changes, the closing of struggling stores and lagging shopping centers and a resilient, healthy consumer. Telsey acknowledges how retail struggled during the first quarter of the year, but noted that she has high hopes for the remainder of the year, especially as big events and celebrations return to help drive additional shopping. Talking technical analysis, Brent Kochuba, founder of SpotGamma.com, says that current neutral sentiment among traders is a warning sign that a market decline could be in the offing, particularly if the Standard & Poor's 500 remains below the 4,500 level, allowing volatility to build up, potentially generating downward pressure. In the Book Interview, Mary Childs -- co-host of Planet Money on National Public Radio -- discusses her recent book "The Bond King: How One Man Made a Market, Built an Empire, and Lost It All," all about legendary fund manager Bill Gross.

Jurrien Timmer, director of global macro for Fidelity Investments, says that investors are betting that the current market can be a replay of 1994 -- when the Federal Reserve was raising interest rates to offset inflation and shooting for a proverbial soft landing -- which could mean a sideways path or a holding pattern while the central bank is tightening. Timmer says that while earnings are growing, the market can avoid a more significant downturn. David Trainer of New Constructs explores companies where "street earnings are too high," which means they are in danger of an earnings miss; his list of companies in this condition includes Amazon.com and financial giants Invesco and Wells Fargo. Also on the show, author Keisha Blair discusses "Holistic Wealth" and how the approach can help individuals overcome the disruption of recent events to reach their financial goals, and Chuck answers a listener's question about changing financial advisers.

Jeff Bishop of RagingBull.com says that gold is setting up on a technical basis for a strong rally over the next year. While gold is often used as a hedge against inflation -- and it has struggled in that role as inflation across the country has reached its highest levels in 40 years -- Bishop says it is currently poised to go "well above $2,000" in the next year. Bishop, who is not typically a gold bull, says that rising inflation and interest rates and other fundamental issues are combining with strong technicals to make the precious metal as one of the better long-term trades investors can make now. In The NAVigator segment, Steven Bavaria of "Inside the Income Factory" on SeekingAlpha.com, discusses how investors seeking cash-flow without much regard for total return have been weathering the market's storms of the first quarter, Bankrate.com analyst Sarah Foster discusses the site's "True Cost of Insurance" report, and Ivana Delevska of SPEAR Invest talks about investing in industrial companies and industrial technology stocks in the Market Call.

Kathy Boyle, president of Chapin Hill Advisors, says she expects the stock market to go through a "very bad period" ahead, the result of a recession that she thinks is brewing right now, a hunch that is supported by an inverted yield curve, high inflation and other conditions. As a result, she says investors don't want to hold long-maturity bonds, and need to be careful about dividend-focused funds and broad market exposure. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com says that the JETS ETF has the potential to give investors a nice takeoff and a soft landing, Matt Schulz of LendingTree discusses what taxpayers are planning to do with any refunds they receive this year, and retirement expert Anne Lester -- the former head of retirement solutions for JPMorgan Asset Management -- talks about how long-term investors might adjust portfolios and strategies now, without letting current events completely take over and messing things up.

Bryce Doty, senior portfolio manager at Sit Fixed Income, says that a miserable first quarter and the threat of more interest-rate hikes have bond investors feeling miserable, but he believes that the worst is over for bonds, noting that the rate hikes have already made it that investors can now generate at least a small amount of income from short-term bonds, something that wasn't possible at the start of the year. Doty says that he doesn't think the Federal Reserve will be able to take rates as far as central bankers seem to want to go, due to some economic struggles; that moderation, in turn, means less damage to the bond market, giving bond investors a reason for optimism even though headlines make things seem bleak. Also on the show, Roger Young from T. Rowe Price discusses the firm's 14th annual "Parents, Kids & Money" survey, which showed that the emergency of cryptocurrency has created excitement in families and the opportunity for more meaningful talks about money and investing, and Andy Braun of the Pax Large Cap fund discusses ESG investing and stocks in the Market Call.

Chris Vermeulen, chief market strategist at The Technical Traders, says that 'the red flags are in the air that the market is ready to roll over,' and while he sees the current rally continuing for another month or two, any upward moves right now are setting up for a bear market, a downward move of more than 25 percent. "Somebody putting money into almost anything right now is carrying a ton of risk," Vermeulen says. "Everything is very overpriced." Also on the show, Chuck looks back at the completion of the NCAA men's basketball tournament on Monday and uses it as a metaphor for building a portfolio, and we revisit a recent discussion with Edward Yardeni, chief investment strategist at Yardeni Research.

David Trainer, president at investment-research firm New Constructs, says that 80 percent of the Standard & Poor's 500 companies are overstating earnings, and he highlighted Illumina as topping the list, saying the company is overvalued as a result. The company is currently trading for about $350, but Trainer put it in "The Danger Zone" because it has an economic book value of "negative two dollars." Also on the show, Ron Ruffinott of Toluna discusses their recent survey showing that one-third of Americans feel markedly worse off financially now compared to a year ago, economist/author Jonathan Haskel discusses his new book -- "Restarting the Future: How to Fix the Intangible Economy," and Brad Lamensdorf of Active Alts and the Ranger Equity Bear ETF returns to talk stocks in the Market Call.

Brad Lamensdorf, editor of the Lamensdorf Market-Timing Report and chief executive officer of Active Alts, says that investors can expect a lot of 'sub-surface volatility throughout the entire year," but all of that chop amounts to the market getting past the bigger-than-expected gains of 2020 and 2021. Lamensdorf says that most market sentiment gauges and indicators are negative but that is creating some pockets of opportunity, though they are hard to spot amid bear-market bounces. Also on the show, Edward Yardeni of Yardeni Research returns for a second day, this time to talk about his latest book, "In Praise of Profits," Michael Bell of Primark Capital discusses how private-equity investments can bring something to a portfolio that most investors are missing, and Simon Lack of SL Advisors -- the firm behind the American Energy Independence Index -- returns to talk about energy stocks in the Market Call.

Edward Yardeni, president and chief investment strategist at Yardeni Research, says that the current wage-price-rent spiral is likely to spur businesses to spend money to increase the productivity of workers. If that innovation and change occurs -- and Yardeni believes there will be a 'productivity boom' -- a decade that started out pretty badly could instead turn into the Roaring 2020s. Yardeni says that solid economic underpinning will make it that inflation and interest rate hikes will not turn into a repeat of the 1970s, avoiding deep, long recessions or worse even while conditions feel bad. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com looks to emerging markets and internet/e-commerce for his ETF of the Week, and Ryan Jacob, chief investment officer of the Jacob Funds, talks technology stocks in the Market Call.

There is nothing about inflation hitting its highest levels in 40 years that makes anyone feel good, but Chuck looks beyond the big number to talk about the actual impact that higher prices are having on people, and concludes by noting that the costs and the choices inflation is creating are uncomfortable but manageable. As a result, while he understands the grumbles -- saying he complains himself every time he fills up his gas tank -- his bigger message remains that 'Higher inflation is not going to break you.' Also on the show, Marketwatch columnist Brett Arends discusses the fallout from Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy calling Warren Buffett 'washed up,' a call that looks particularly foolish given the time since when Warren Buffett's personal fortune roughly doubled to over $100 billion in short order. Mark Hamirck of Bankrate.com discusses his site's latest survey of workers and their outlook on jobs and working conditions, and Jillian DelSignore of FLX Networks discusses the evolution of the ETF business and the trend of traditional mutual funds converting to the exchange-traded fund structure.

Matt Hougan, chief investment officer at Bitwise Asset Management, says that the cryptocurrency market's fear over regulation is misplaced, and while threats of regulation send the market into a tizzy, he thinks that worry is misplaced and directed toward heavy-handed regulatory efforts. He thinks the potential for regulation will turn from a headwind to a tailwind, because decentralized finance goes mainstream through regulatory guidance that makes consumers more comfortable with digital assets. In a wide-ranging interview, Hougan also talks about how cryptocurrencies have performed against inflation, in the war in Ukraine and more, and discusses how non-fungible tokens are the latest verse in an age-old song of how societies develop arts and cultures during times of financial success. Also on the show, Shelly-Ann Eweka, senior director for advice strategy for TIAA, talks about how gig workers and others with non-traditional jobs can still participate in traditional retirement-savings programs, and David Miller of the Catalyst Mutual Funds discusses investing with an eye on climate change in the Market Call.

David Trainer, founder and president of New Constructs, says that HubSpot is worth only about 15 percent of what its stock currently is trading for, and he's putting it in 'The Danger Zone' because it faces stiff competition in an industry that is being commoditized, leaving it littel room to grow profitably, let alone at the incredibly high valuation the market has given the stock for now. We've also got Mike Bailey of FBB Capital partners, back to discuss his new book 'Stop. Think. Invest: A Behavioral Finance Framework for Optimizing Investment Portfolios, plus Ken Mahonet of Mahoney Asset Management talks stocks and ETFs in the Market Call, and Chuck shares his thoughts and appreciation for Ned Johnson, the man who built Fidelity Investments from a family business to the world's largest and most influential financial-services firms.

Joe Kalish, chief global macro strategist at Ned Davis Research, says that longer-term inflation will be what determines whether the economy can continue to avoid a recession and the market can sidestep a protracted downturn. With that in mind, Kalish expects the Federal Reserve to raise rates repeatedly until it can be confident that inflation has peaked, is passing through temporary troubles and gets to long-term target levels at 2.1 percent. Kalish, says, though, that he believes that goal will take longer than the Fed expects to be accomplished, meaning that economic doldrums will also go on for longer than forecast. In The NAVigator segment, Mitchel Penn of Oppenheimer and Co., talks about the challenges of analyzing and evaluating business-development companies, highlighting why one particular BDC -- Runway Growth Finance Corp. -- appears ready to outperform the market and the competition. And in the Market Call, Mike Bailey, director of research for FBB Capital Partners, talks about taking a "beat and raise" approach to managing a portfolio of stocks during trying market conditions.

Hank Smith, head of investment strategy for The Haverford Trust Co., says that rising volatility and heightened uncertainty shouldn't push investors out of the market, because times like these prove the value of being fully invested in all conditions, and having money in the market whenever a bottom is reached. In the Market Call, Smith talks about how owning great companies with long histories of dividend payments creates the confidence to ride out tough times en route to long-term success. In the 'ETF of the Week' segment, Tom Lydon, chief executive at ETFTrends.com, discusses one of the biggest, most-popular ETFs -- a Standard and Poor's 500 Index fund from Vanguard -- noting that the pick isn't just trending but it's an appropriate allocation for investors with too much cash on the sidelines. Also on the show, Kirsten Grind, co-author of 'Happy At Any Cost: The Revolutionary Vision and Fatal Quest of Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh,' and Ted Rossman, senior industry analyst at Bankrate.com discussing the site's 2022 Gas Cards Survey and whether using a branded card can really help you out at the pump.

Jeffrey Cleveland, chief economist at Payden and Rygel, says that he expects inflation to settle down and for the economy to reach full-employment levels by the end of the year, creating earnings and economic growth that sidesteps any potential recession. Cleveland expects the market to recover its early-year losses and show modest profits by the end of the year. Also on the show, Shelly-Ann Eweka of TIAA discusses survey results showing that women's finances in retirement make them much more financially vulnerable than men are, and Samuel Adams, chief executive officer of Vert Asset Management -- which runs the Vert Global Sustainable Real Estate Fund -- talks environmental, social and governance (ESG) in the Market Call.

Jeffrey Kleintop, chief global market strategist at Charles Schwab & Co., says that earnings will continue to power the stock market which he expects to overcome current concerns about high inflation and rising interest rates to finish the year with the kind of high single-digit gains he was expecting several months ago when he posted his annual outlook. Kleintop says he expects inflation to calm quickly enough that investors might forego the traditional hedges in favor of international investments, which he says tend to do well in inflationary times and which will outperform the standard inflation-driven portfolio moves. Also on the show, Sham Ganglani discusses Fidelity Investments' latest State of Retirement Planning study, noting the conditions of the typical retirement saver coming out of the pandemic, and Eric Boughton of Matisse Capital talks about closed-end fund investing in the Market Call.

Terri Spath, founder and chief investment officer at Zuma Wealth, says that stock market and economic conditions have her lightening up on technology stocks but adding to commodities, going up to her traditional limits on commodities because that's where managers can deliver a better return in markets currently affected by the war in Ukraine and more. Spath notes that she is moving away from bonds, most notably floating-rate bonds -- despite a rising-rate environment that has many experts expecting them to thrive -- high-yield corporates and even Treasury bonds. Spath says she still believes the stock market will book gains for 2022, with most of the positive action coming in the second half of the year. Also on the show, Julia Pollak, chief economist at ZipRecruiter, discusses the latest Economic Policy Survey out today from the National Association for Business Economics, Kyle Guske of New Constructs says a classic mutual fund with one of the most veteran managers ever -- more than 50 years at the helm -- is headed for trouble, and Allen Bond, the head of research at Jensen Investment Management talks in the Market Call about buying high-quality businesses at reasonable prices.

Matt Harris, chief investment officer at The Hausberg Group, says that it has been a market year of extremes, a polarizing year where the stock and bond markets have been oversold, gold has been overbought and investors and their emotions have been whipsawed by the moves. Yet he sees many of the factors creating those conditions as mitigating and calming down now, and as those factors stabilize he notes that things will get 'less bad,' which should be enough to keep the market on solid footing and with slow gains moving forward. Craig Callahan, chief executive at ICON Advisers returns to the show, following on Thursday's discussion about his book on 'unloved' bull markets, noting that he sees stocks on average right now to be about 9 percent below the firm's fair value estimate right now. Further, Callahan says that 2022 may be a year where there are positive outcomes despite no catalyst for a market rally, because 'if you priced in horrible and it turns out just being bad, you could have a rally.' Plus, Seth Brufsky of the Ares Dynamic Credit Allocation Fund talks about how current events are affecting the capital markets, and Chuck talks about how important it is for investors to lean into all types of risk now.

Craig Callahan, founder of ICON Advisers and author of a new book, 'Unloved Bull Markets,' says that investors who have relied heavily on price-earnings ratios to evaluate stocks have been fooled. He says that p/e ratios are 'totally worthless in predicting future returns, and notes that stocks were never overvalued in the long bull market run after the 2008 financial crisis, nor are they overvalued now, in a bull market that has only been stalled by current events. He adds that investors who focus on macro concerns like war, inflation and interest rates are missing the ground level action where individual companies look good. Also on the show, Tom Lydon of ETFTrends.com heads to the oil patch with an energy pick impacted by global events for his 'ETF of the Week,' Chuck gives his quick take on how to read the Federal Reserve's moves and statements from Wednesday, and Tom Plumb of the Plumb Funds talks stocks in the Market Call.

Michael Power, strategist at NinetyOne, says that investors might be tempted to run away from the market, but there is no real place to hide with high inflation and low yields making it that the traditional safe-havens are losing purchasing power. Power says that there is a possibility of recession arriving late last year or early in 2024, which makes diversification across asset types and around the globe prudent. Also on the show, Lou Harvey, president at DALBAR Inc., discusses the firm's research on asset-allocation models and about their new Prudent Asset Allocation method, which has adherents lock down the core of their nestegg but be more aggressive with their remaining holdings to produce bigger-but-safer results. Plus Carol Anderson of MQ Research and Education discusses how well financial advisers are building and retaining trust at a time when meetings are infrequent, and Chuck reads a special letter he received from an audince member who is about to have his pursuit of life overtake his pursuit of money.

Meb Faber, co-founder and chief investment officer at Cambria Investments, says that investors aren't just dealing with headline issues of war, inflation and rising interest rates, but he notes that the market has turned to what he called an 'expensive downtrend,' which is historically a time when returns tend to be zero or negative. Faber says he worries that this could be a moment where investors could blink and turn around to say 'Wow, when did all of these stocks go down 75 percent.' He says that the right way for investor to get through these kinds of conditions is through proper diversification, including significant international exposure even though current events make it hard emotionally to invest overseas. In the Talking Technicals segment, Gene Peroni of Peroni Portfolio Advisors says that conservative investors should be waiting for the market to see several strong consecutive days -- or a 1,000-point plus day -- before they consider the recent downturn as potentially turning into a buying opportunity. And in the Market Call, Robert Cantwell of Upholdings and the Compound Kings ETF talks about the importance of finding the right kind of long-term growth, and discusses why that currently has him a bit sour on Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway, but sweet on Amazon.com and Meta Platforms (Facebook), which he says are trading at 'a multiple that we have not seen in their publicly traded histories.'

George Kinder, president of The Kinder Institute of Life Planning -- generally recognized as the biggest moving force behind the life-planning approach to personal financial management -- says that investors need to look at where they can minimize risks in current conditions, but do that without blowing up financial plans because they are better off holding to their plans than changing them just because of current or even persistent economic and global events. Kinder says that the pandemic and other conditions have actually helped many people make progress on their life plans, because it simplified the economics for many people and helped them focus on what is important. In the Danger Zone segment, Kyle Guske of New Constructs looks at Airbnb and Squarespace, two stocks that have been hammered during the market's recent fall but where he believes the troubles are only starting and there's another big loss to come. And in the Market Call, hedge-fund manager Steven Grey of Grey Value Management discusses the importance of getting your buy prices right, noting that buy-and-hold investors who overpay dramatically for a stock are committing a form of 'slow-motion financial suicide.'

Joe Terranova, chief market strategist at Virtus Investment Partners, says 'the enemy right now for investors in the market is time,' and understanding how to be patient, because the market's current troubles are masking economic strength and the likelihood of a U-shaped recovery. He expects that a record year for corporate buybacks and an investing public that is flush with cash should buffer the market against any prolonged downturn, creating a recovery for patient investors who ride it out. In the Talking technicals segment, Matt Fox of Ithaca Wealth Management says we are currently experiencing a cyclical bear market within a secular bull market, but notes that that charts are 'screaming caution,' and that investors who have been conditioned to buy every dip should be waiting for 'a wash-out in sentiment before the charts give an all-clear.' Also on the show, Mike Taggart of Taggart Fund Intelligence and the Active Investment Company Alliance returns to The NAVigator to answer listener questions about the persistence of discounts, and Joe Rinaldi of Quantum Financial Advisors talks both stocks and exchange-traded funds in the Market Call.

Brent Schutte, chief investment strategist for Northwestern Mutual Wealth Management Co., says that war, inflation and more are changing the narrative for the market, but mostly for the short term. He still believes the domestic stock market is positioned to outperform later this year and into 2023 as the strong economy is able to flex its muscle and have influence that overcomes the headlines. He suggests looking for companies in areas that are becoming undervalued now, like small-cap stocks. Also on the show, Tom Lydon, chief executive officer at ETFTrends.com, makes the ETF of the Week a trend-following play on a commodity and, in the Market Call, Dave Sekera, chief U.S. market strategist for Morningstar, makes his debut talking about stocks and a market that he says has pivoted from overvalued to about 10 percent undervalued now after the early struggles of the year, making it much easier to find stocks worth buying.