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Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

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MFP 396: The Great Family Reboot

Aug 31, 202641 min

MFP 395: Who Comes First? Navigating the Hard Choices of Family Life

Aug 24, 202659 min

MFP 394: NFP- Love, Life, and Learning Self-Control

Aug 17, 20261h 2m

MFP 393: Helping Kids Grow Through Hard Things

Aug 10, 20261h 1m

MFP 392: Faith at Home: No Degree Required

Aug 3, 202658 min

MFP 391: Jesus Take the Wheel! Being Overwhelmed

Jul 27, 202641 min

MFP 390: What Happens After the Romance Fades?

Jul 20, 202651 min

MFP 389: 33 Days to Consecration to the Holy Family

Jul 13, 202646 min

MFP 388: Your Husband is Not a Home Improvement Project

Jul 6, 202648 min

MFP 387: The Truth about Toddlers

Jun 29, 20261h 20m

MFP 386: How to Have a Whole and Happy Marriage

Jun 22, 20261h 25m

MFP 385: Fighting the Slow Drift in Marriage

Jun 15, 202655 min

MFP 384: Paul McCusker and the Power of Story

Jun 1, 20261h 0m

MFP 383: How Play Time Shapes Prayer Time

May 25, 202653 min

MFP 382: The Shape of a Growing Family

May 18, 20261h 5m

MFP 381: The Secret to Raising Kids Who Love the Sacraments

May 11, 202651 min

MFP 380: The Hidden Power of Family Culture and How to Shape It

May 4, 202659 min

MFP 379: Lord, Save Me from the Complaining Child!

Apr 27, 20261h 3m

MFP 378: Training Children to Master Themselves

Apr 20, 20261h 5m

MFP 377: When Kids Take Control: What To Do and How to Stop It

Apr 13, 20261h 4m

MFP 376: Raising Kids Without Raising Your Voice

The most effective parents aren't the loudest—they're the most consistent. Summary Why do we yell at our kids, even when we know it doesn't work? In this episode, we unpack the hard truth behind yelling in parenting: it's often not a discipline strategy, but a reaction to stress, frustration, and lack of follow-through. While it may get quick results, it slowly weakens our authority and damages connection with our kids. We talk about why yelling becomes a habit, what it's actually teaching our children, and how to replace it with calmer, more effective discipline. You'll walk away with simple, practical strategies to respond with intention instead of reaction, and build a home where your voice doesn't have to get louder to be heard. This is a re-release of "Yelling, the Lazy Approach to Parenting". Key Takeaways Pause before reacting to your child. Take a breath and step away if needed. Get physically close. Instead of yelling across the house, get up and go to them and make eye contact. Use fewer words, but use them clearly. Short instructions are better than long, angry diatribes. Follow through consistently. Sometimes kids don't listen the first time because you never made clear that is what you expect. Address your own triggers. Notice when you tend to yell and plan ahead for those moments. Make sure to repair the relationship when you mess up. When we apologize we model humility and it can actually strengthen your relationship. Couple Discussion Questions When are we most likely to yell at our kids? (Time of day, situation, stress level) How does yelling affect our relationship with them long-term? What would change in our home if the kids listened to us without raising our voices?

Apr 6, 202654 min

MFP 375: The Family and the Sexual Revolution

"The sexual revolution was not about freedom. It was about transferring power from families to the state." - Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse Summary What really makes a family essential, and why does it matter so much right now? In this episode, Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse makes a compelling, research-based case for why children need both their mother and their father. We explore the irreplaceable role of mothers in forming trust and attachment, the unique responsibility of fathers to provide protection, limits, and direction, and how these roles evolve as children grow. You'll hear why the family is not outdated or insignificant, but the best and most natural place for human formation. We also dig into the devastation of the sexual revolution, unpacking the contraceptive, divorce, and gender ideologies and how they've reshaped society at the expense of the most vulnerable. This conversation is a powerful reminder that there is no substitute for family, and the Church was right all along. Key Takeaways Children don't just need love in general. They need the distinct, complementary presence of both a mother and a father, especially in their earliest years of formation. The family is the primary place where a child learns how to use freedom well. There is no automatic or "invisible" process that forms character without intentional relationships. Mothers and fathers have different but equally vital roles that change over time, from early attachment and safety to setting limits and guiding children toward independence. The sexual revolution has weakened families by separating sex from children, marriage, and the body itself, with serious consequences for the most vulnerable, especially children. Couple Discussion Questions How do we intentionally live out our roles as mother and father in our family right now, and where might we need to grow or adjust together? In what ways has the culture shaped our view of marriage, parenting, or family life, and how can we more consciously build our home around truth rather than those messages? Resources: The Ruth Institute: https://ruthinstitute.org/

Mar 30, 20261h 2m

MFP 374: Raising Kids Who Know Who They Are

Summary How do we help our children discover the gift that they are? In this episode, we explore the powerful cycle of identity, belonging, and mission—and how it unfolds across the key stages of childhood. From the early years of wonder and dependence, to the exploratory middle years, to the identity-shaping teen years, we unpack what children need most at each phase—and how parents can respond with confidence. We dive into how children develop their gifts, navigate friendships, and grow into their sexual identity, as we highlight the unique role parents play—not as controllers, but as guides, coaches, and mentors. The goal? To raise children who not only know who they are—but are equipped to live it out with purpose. Key Takeaways Development happens in stages—and each one matters. 0–6: Children absorb everything. They need love, security, and protection of innocence. 6–12: The "explorer" stage—kids discover gifts through play, friendship, and trying new things. 12–18: Adult Identity is formed. Teens begin asking, Who am I? What am I made for? Your role as a parent must evolve. In the early years you are a nurturer and protector. In the middle years you are an observer and encourager of gifts. Then in the teen years you are a coach and guide By adolescence, formation happens largely outside the home—through friends, mentors, and experiences. Especially in ages 6-12, exposure and exploration are critical. Kids need freedom to try, fail, quit, and try again. This is how they discover their natural gifts. Parental guidance—especially from fathers to sons—is crucial during key windows of development. Couple Discussion Questions What stage is my child in right now—and how might I need to adjust my role to better support them in this season? Where might my child need more freedom to explore their gifts, or more encouragement from me to persevere through challenges?

Mar 23, 202653 min

MFP 373: Parenting is Your Mission

Summary There is so much noise in the world of parenting today, and it's easy to feel overwhelmed by pressure, comparison, and fear. In this episode, Mike and Alicia remind parents that there is not just one way to raise a family well. God has given you the grace for your mission, and your job is not to control your children or guarantee outcomes. Your call is to build a strong marriage, create a healthy home, communicate your values, and allow God to use family life to make you holy. Parenting is not about perfection — it is about faithfulness. Key Takeaways There is not just one right way to be a good parent. God gives you the grace for the family and mission He has entrusted to you. Your marriage must remain the foundation of your family. A child-centered family creates unhealthy pressure and instability. Your children have free will, so parenting is about faithfulness, not control. Parenting is one of the primary ways God makes us holy through sacrifice and love. You are irreplaceable in the life of your child and responsible for forming the culture of your home. Couple Discussion Questions Where do we feel the most pressure or insecurity in our parenting right now? In what ways can we strengthen our marriage as the foundation of our family life? Are there any ways our home has become too child-centered? What values are we most trying to communicate to our children? How might God be using parenting to refine us and make us holy?

Mar 16, 202635 min

MFP 372: Prayer for Beginners - Interview with the Science of Sainthood

"Without a life of prayer, you are really not living as a Catholic" - Matt Leonard Summary What does it really mean to "go deeper" in prayer? And what if you pray every day but don't feel anything? This week we're joined by Matthew Leonard, founder of The Science of Sainthood, to talk about what real spiritual growth looks like. We break down the three modes of prayer, vocal, meditation, and contemplation, and how they form a path to holiness. Matthew shares practical steps for building a daily habit of mental prayer, handling distractions, and creating space for silence. We also talk about how married couples can grow spiritually together without pressure or guilt. If you've ever wondered whether you're making progress in your prayer life, this conversation will give you clarity, encouragement, and a clear next step. Key Takeaways Prayer is essential, not optional. Without prayer, we're not really living the fullness of Catholic life. A relationship with the Lord isn't an add-on. It's fundamental. There's a path to deeper prayer. Vocal prayer, meditation, and contemplation build on each other. Vocal prayer engages body and soul. Meditation is daily mental prayer and real conversation with God. Contemplation is a gift from God that we prepare for through faithfulness. "Feeling nothing" doesn't mean nothing is happening. Distractions are normal. Lack of emotion isn't failure. Stay faithful, show up, and trust that God is at work beneath the surface. Consistency creates growth. Commit to a time and place. Embrace silence. Use Scripture or spiritual reading to focus. Act on inspirations. Over time, deeper prayer opens you to greater grace. Couple Discussion Questions How can we support each other as we grow in our prayer life? What does our personal prayer life actually look like right now, and where do we each feel invited to go deeper? Resources https://www.scienceofsainthood.com/

Mar 9, 20261h 6m

MFP 371: How Vulnerability Is Built in Small Moments

Love is not a feeling. It's a daily choice, a habit practiced proactively. Summary What if intimacy isn't built in the big moments, but in the small ones you almost miss? In this episode, we explore the idea of bids for connection, the everyday ways we reach for each other through a question, a touch, a story, or even a glance across the room. We talk about what happens when those bids are noticed and met with kindness, and what slowly unfolds when they are ignored. You'll hear how responsiveness, presence, and emotional generosity shape trust, passion, and long-term happiness more than grand romantic gestures ever could. If you want a stronger, closer relationship, this conversation will help you see the simple choices that build intimacy over time. Couple Discussion Questions What are some small bids that you make that I may not always notice? What is one simple way we could turn toward each other more consistently this week? Key Takeaways Bids are everyday requests for connection. They can be verbal or nonverbal, big or small, serious or playful. Turning toward builds trust and intimacy. Consistent responsiveness creates emotional safety and closeness. Ignored bids create distance over time. Missed or rejected bids often lead to frustration, criticism, and disconnection. Vulnerability grows through small, repeated moments. Clear, honest bids and kind responses strengthen intimacy more than grand gestures. Resources https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/the-case-for-centering-your-life-around-romantic-love https://therapygroupdc.com/therapist-dc-blog/bids-for-connection-why-small-gestures-matter-in-relationships/ https://www.gottman.com/blog/want-to-improve-your-relationship-start-paying-more-attention-to-bids/ MFP Guide to Communication https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/communication/

Mar 2, 20261h 4m

MFP 370: The Path to Healing our Broken Hearts

There is nothing that the power of the resurrection cannot redeem in your life. - Fr. Shawn Monahan Summary What do we do with the wounds we carry, especially in marriage? In this powerful episode, Fr. Shawn Monahan shares a trauma-informed vision of spirituality that meets us in our real stories. We're all wounded, some more deeply than others, and healing begins with honest self-knowledge, self-acceptance, and inviting Christ into our pain. Fr. Shawn explains how our desires are shaped for good, how sin is seeking that good in the wrong ways, and why shame keeps us stuck. Christianity isn't behavior management. It's transformation through relationship. You'll also hear practical wisdom for forgiveness, vulnerability, and praying with your spouse. If you're longing for renewal and lasting peace, this conversation offers real hope. Check out his free workshop, "The Path to Healing Our Broken Hearts." Link below! Key Takeaways We need a trauma-informed spirituality. Everyone carries wounds. Some are deeper than others. The Church must recognize this reality and respond with compassion, emotional awareness, and an understanding of how early experiences shape us. Healing begins with self-knowledge and self-acceptance. By becoming aware of our reactions and emotions, we grow in self-understanding. This allows us to accept ourselves and become a true gift to others. Desire is good, but it can be distorted. God gives good spiritual desires, and our human desires are also good. Sin happens when we pursue those good desires in the wrong ways. Shame blocks healing, but Christ redeems wounds. Christianity is about transformation through relationship, not behavior management. Nothing is beyond the power of the Resurrection. Forgiveness and vulnerability are essential in relationships. Forgiveness is a grace-filled choice, not a feeling. Real healing in marriage requires empathy, honest listening, asking "Will you forgive me?", and the courage to be vulnerable. Couple Discussion Questions When you think about your own wounds, how do they show up in our marriage? Share one area where past hurts or early experiences may affect your reactions, fears, or desires. What helps you feel safe enough to open up about those places? What would forgiveness or vulnerability look like for us right now? Is there anything unspoken between us that needs to be brought into the light? How can we listen with empathy, ask "Will you forgive me?", and invite Jesus into that space together? Resources: FREE virtual workshop with Fr. Shawn: ​​https://www.omvusa.org/our-work/virtual-workshops/path-healing-broken-hearts/

Feb 23, 202656 min

MFP 369: Marriages Don't Accidentally Communicate Well

You can't have a healthy relationship if you don't develop the skill of communication. Summary Marriage doesn't drift into great communication. You have to make the time and practice on purpose. In this episode, we share simple, realistic tools to help couples break bad habits and start talking in ways that actually bring them closer. You'll learn how to listen without fixing, reduce daily stress through connection and fun, and build rituals that create space for meaningful conversation. We talk about appreciation, gentle ways to start hard conversations, and why prayer changes everything. These aren't abstract ideas, they're practical habits you can try tonight. If your conversations feel rushed, tense, or nonexistent, this episode will give you hope and a clear path forward. Strong communication is possible, and it's one of the greatest investments you can make in your marriage. This episode accompanies MFP 368 Couple Communication in a Frantic Family! Key Takeaways Take time to practice active listening daily. Quietly receive your spouse's stress of the day (not in your relationship) without comments, only questions to deepen your understanding. Create and practice Rituals of Connection. Rituals have a structure, a beginning and an end. You should have short daily rituals like sitting on the couch, time alone after dinner, or meaningful conversation after bedtime. Make sure to include stress-reducing conversations! Not every conversation needs to be intense. Create some boundaries and be sure to include some fun! Give each other appreciation. Gratitude is the key to happiness. Make sure your spouse knows how important they are to you. Practice the gentle start-up when relationship conversations need to happen. Always keep in mind how to best communicate so your spouse can receive your words. Pray together. Never forget that God is committed to your marriage and will give you all you need to succeed in communication! Couple Discussion Questions When can we have one daily stress-reducing conversation?. List 5 things you admire about your partner and share them. Resources 10 Communication Exercises https://www.gottman.com/blog/10-communication-exercises-for-couples-to-have-better-relationships/ Guide to Communication: https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/communication/

Feb 16, 202644 min

MFP 368: The Four Horsemen in Busy Marriages

"Couples often ignore each other's emotional needs out of mindlessness, not malice." - Dr. John Gottman Summary Let's take an honest look at how communication breaks down in busy marriages and what you can do to stop it. Most couples don't ignore each other out of malice, but out of exhaustion, distraction, and rushed daily life. In this episode, we unpack why communication is essential for growth and connection, and how unspoken assumptions quickly lead to misunderstandings. Drawing on Dr. John Gottman's research, we break down the Four Horsemen of Communication - criticism, defensiveness, contempt, and stonewalling, and explain how they quietly damage relationships. More importantly, we share practical antidotes to each one, along with simple habits and conversations you can start using right away to communicate more clearly, stay emotionally connected, and protect your marriage from drifting apart. Key Takeaways Communication shapes your marriage every day. It's not the big conversations alone that matter, but the daily responses, tone, and small interactions. You cannot grow closer without communicating, and mind-reading is not a real skill, no matter how much we wish it were. Unspoken assumptions damage connection. When couples don't communicate, they fill in the gaps with guesses, and those guesses are often wrong. What feels obvious to you may not be obvious to your spouse. If left unchecked, the Four Horsemen quietly erode relationships. Criticism, defensiveness, contempt, and stonewalling are strong predictors of marital breakdown, but couples can recognize them early and recover when they're willing to change patterns. Most conflict starts inside us, not with our spouse. Many reactions come from fear, stress, or unresolved issues rather than our spouse's actions. Growth begins when we take ownership and speak from vulnerability instead of blame. Engaging imperfectly is better than withdrawing. Respect, appreciation, and choosing to stay engaged, even awkwardly, protect connection. Healthy communication requires effort, humility, and the daily choice to turn toward each other. Couple Discussion Questions Which of the Four Horsemen are threatening our relationship right now? How would you rate our communication on a scale of 1-10? What can we do to improve this? Resources Guide to Communication: https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/communication/ Explanation of the Four Horsemen: https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-recognizing-criticism-contempt-defensiveness-and-stonewalling/

Feb 9, 202655 min

MFP 367: The Need for Belonging in Marriage

"Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and clings to his wife, and they become one flesh." Genesis 2:24 Summary In this episode, we talk about something every person longs for: belonging. At its heart, marriage is meant to be a place where you are chosen, known, and not easily walked away from. It's a home base, the one relationship you freely choose, where staying matters more than being perfect. Belonging in marriage isn't about constant agreement or effortless connection. It's about knowing someone is still there when things are hard, awkward, or unfinished. Over time, that kind of commitment creates safety, trust, and real intimacy. We also explore why working through the mess together often leads to deeper joy than walking away. Join us as we begin a series on building lasting belonging in marriage, starting with the foundation of healthy communication. Key Takeaways Everyone needs a place where they Belong and that is found in marriage for Catholic couples Build that home base in your marriage by affirming your commitment to each other, not just that you are doing everything perfectly. Being known in marriage happens through vulnerability. When you belong you are able to be more vulnerable. When you work as a team with common goals that also builds connection and belonging Couple Discussion Questions How can we continue to build a safe place, a comfort in belonging to each other in our marriage? What are our shared goals and dreams? Resources Study showing couples who stay together are happier https://ifstudies.org/blog/for-most-couples-who-stay-the-course-marriage-gets-better-with-time-an-interview-with-paul-r-amato Importance of Shared Meaning https://www.gottman.com/blog/enriching-marriage-creating-shared-meaning/

Feb 2, 202649 min

MFP 366: God is Love

"Love of neighbor is a path that leads to the encounter with God… closing our eyes to our neighbour also blinds us to God." - Pope Benedict XVI, God is Love Summary We begin with Love because marriage flows from our deepest identity and relationships, not just spousal dynamics. Created in the image of a loving, Triune God, we must first ask who God is and who we are in His eyes. Our relationship with God and with ourselves forms the foundation for loving others. Pope Benedict XVI's God Is Love reveals that eros and agape are inseparable dimensions of love: we are made to give and receive love. God's passionate, faithful love for His people—fulfilled fully in Jesus—becomes the model for marriage. In Christ, love of God and love of neighbor are one reality. Our first neighbor is our spouse, and loving them faithfully is the primary path to holiness and authentic love. Key Takeaways Love begins with God, not marriage Before focusing on spousal relationships, we must understand who God is and who we are in His eyes. Our identity as loved by God is the foundation for all love. You cannot love others without loving God and yourself rightly Knowing and receiving God's love allows us to love ourselves truthfully, which is necessary to love anyone else authentically. Eros and agape belong together Human desire (eros) is not bad; it is purified and fulfilled by God's unconditional love (agape). Love requires both giving and receiving. God's passionate love is revealed fully in Jesus Christ embodies God's self-giving love and draws us into communion—with God and with others—especially through the Eucharist. Marriage is the primary place love is lived Spouses are each other's first neighbors. Loving one's spouse faithfully is the clearest expression of love of God and the path to holiness. Resources: Pdf of encyclical: https://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est.html Join the Cana90 Fellowship: https://messyfamilyproject.org/programs/cana90/fellowship-form/

Jan 26, 202651 min

MFP 365: Five Ways to Begin Again

"Let us begin again, for until now we have done nothing," - Saint Francis of Assisi Summary As a new year begins, many of us focus on where we fell short instead of how we've grown. In this episode, Mike and Alicia invite parents and couples to reflect on the past year by celebrating the gains—not just the gaps—and to recognize the common traps that keep us stuck, like doing too much, being too busy, comparing ourselves to others, or letting our loves get out of order. From there, they share five foundational ways to begin again and make this year better—not perfect, but better: growing in your relationship with God, becoming more fully who God made you to be, investing intentionally in your marriage, being present and purposeful with your children, and choosing real community. You don't have to plan everything—just put the big rocks in place and start again together. Key Takeaways Start Right Now: Commit to Growing in Your Relationship with God Commit to Becoming More Fully Yourself Invest in Your Marriage—Starting With Yourself Be Intentional With Your Children Choose Community Couple Discussion Questions How can we "begin again" together Which of these take aways are most impactful for us?

Jan 22, 202651 min

MFP 364: Live Intentionally in 2026

Summary This episode revisits one of the most helpful and down-to-earth conversations on the Messy Family Podcast: Family Board Meeting 2.0. It starts with a simple but challenging idea. We put a lot of thought into our jobs, but when it comes to family life, many of us are just trying to keep up. Between work, kids' schedules, and everyday stress, it's easy to drift into survival mode. A Family Board Meeting is a chance to pause, breathe, and get back on the same page. It's not about being perfect or fixing everything. It's about choosing to lead your family with intention. The episode walks through why these meetings matter, how to keep them practical, and how to avoid turning them into a blame-filled marathon. You'll hear encouragement to dream a little, pick a few priorities, write them down, and actually enjoy the process. Think unity, clarity, and maybe even dinner and a glass of wine along the way. Key Takeaways Intentional families don't happen by accident. A Family Board Meeting is about choosing the important over the merely urgent. The goal is unity, not perfection. Unity is essential for your children and for your own personal growth. Dream big, plan simple, act now. You can't do everything. That's okay. Choose the top two or three areas that really matter right now. Failure is part of the process—and that's normal. Fail fast, refine, and keep moving forward. Make it human—and even fun. You're building a life together, not just a to-do list. Couple Discussion Questions When can we have these intentional conversations? Should we do a FBM course? Get the course here: https://messyfamilyproject.org/course/family-board-meeting/ Get your free guide here: https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/family-board-meeting-guide/

Jan 5, 202659 min

MFP 363: Growing Up Hernon - What it's like in a large, loud, loving family

Summary What's it really like growing up in a big family? In this special Hernon kids takeover podcast, Mike and Alicia's children gather around the mic to tell the honest, funny, and heartfelt story of their upbringing. From loud dinner tables and sibling fights to deep bonds, meaningful traditions, and moments of feeling unseen, the Hernon siblings share what shaped them—for better and for worse. They talk openly about the challenges of a large family, how sibling relationships filled the gaps when parents were stretched thin, and why intentional traditions mattered more than perfection. Along the way, they relive unforgettable childhood stories (including melted crayons, camping disasters, and a legendary vomiting incident), reflect on personality differences, and offer wisdom for parents raising kids today. This episode is a gift to parents wondering if they're "doing enough"—and a reminder that love multiplies, even when life is messy. Key Takeways: 1. Big Families Are Hard—And That's Not a Bad Thing Most of the siblings admitted they didn't always love growing up in a large family—especially as teenagers. But looking back, they see how it built character, resilience, and lifelong relationships. 2. Parents Won't Always Get It Perfect Several siblings shared moments when they felt overlooked or unseen. Yet the overwhelming takeaway was this: they knew they were loved, even when time and energy were limited. 3. Siblings Matter More Than We Realize In a big family, siblings often become secondary parents, confidants, and companions. Those relationships became one of the greatest gifts of their upbringing. 4. Traditions Shape Identity From Christmas breakfasts and dinner games to family retreats and service visits, traditions created a shared story and sense of belonging that lasted into adulthood. 5. Conflict Isn't Failure—It's Formation Fighting, disagreements, and personality clashes were part of the family culture. Learning forgiveness, conflict resolution, and reconciliation turned those struggles into growth. 6. Intentionality Beats Perfection What stood out most wasn't flawless parenting—but parents who cared, listened, showed interest, and tried to be present whenever possible. Couple Discussion Questions: How do sibling relationships function in your family right now? How might you help strengthen them? How do you currently handle conflict in your home—and what might forgiveness look like more intentionally? What kind of family culture do you hope your children will talk about someday?

Dec 22, 20251h 5m

MFP 362: Choosing to Be Wrong Together, Over Being Right Alone

Your decisions may not always be perfect, but you can choose to make them together. Summary In this week's podcast, we dive into one of the most important truths for married couples: you will never make a perfect decision—but you can choose unity. Today's culture urges us to optimize everything with hacks, experts, and AI, yet the real power in family life comes from spouses acting together. We share our own stories of big decisions—moves, career changes, even grad school—and how waiting for unity brought peace and strength to our home. Join us as we unpack how to stay united: understanding each other's processing style, praying together, deferring in love, and avoiding the trap of needing to win. Your decisions may never be perfect—but they can always be made together. Tune in and strengthen the unity that makes your family thrive!

Dec 15, 20251h 1m

MFP 361: The Story of All Stories: Catholic Parenting & Hospitality with Emily Stimpson Chapman

"Hospitality and real community starts by inviting people into your messy home…" Summary In this episode, Mike and Alicia sit down with best-selling Catholic author Emily Stimpson Chapman to talk about Advent, Storybook for young Catholics, and the beauty of simple hospitality. Emily shares the real, lived rhythms of Advent in her home—reminding parents that peace and prayerfulness grow best when traditions are tied to everyday routines and kept flexible, not burdensome. Emily also introduces her newest work, The Story of All Stories, a beautifully crafted children's story Bible from Word on Fire that presents salvation history as one unified narrative. Although written for ages 7–13, it has already captivated teens, parents, and grandparents alike. Finally, the conversation turns to hospitality—how ordinary families can open their homes joyfully, even amid noise, chaos, and little ones. Emily offers practical tips, simple meal ideas, and a vision for welcoming others that prioritizes connection over perfection. Key Takeaways Advent traditions work best when tied to existing family routines—like dinner—rather than starting from scratch. Flexibility in traditions preserves peace and allows your family to embrace the joy of the season without stress. Hospitality doesn't require perfection—simple meals and genuine presence build true community. Opening your home combats loneliness and helps families live their mission together. Couple Discussion Questions What Advent traditions have been life-giving for our family—and which ones cause unnecessary stress? How could we anchor Advent prayer or traditions more naturally into our existing daily routine? In what ways do we tell the story of salvation to our children? Is there room to deepen our approach? When we think about hospitality, what holds us back most—perfectionism, time, or fear? Who is one person or family we could invite over in the next two weeks for a simple, joy-filled meal?

Dec 8, 202547 min

MFP 360: Don't be Afraid of Screwing Up Your Kids (because you already are!)

"Learning how to trust God and let go of our fears, worries, and frustrations is the best way to model peace for our children." — Dr. Gregory Bottaro Summary This week on the Messy Family Podcast, we are joined by Dr. Greg Bottaro for a heartfelt and practical conversation every parent needs to hear. In this interview, Dr. Greg explains why kids are not naturally built to listen and why so many of us parents end up frustrated. His solution is simple and hopeful. Get clear on the rulebook you grew up with, compare it with your spouse's, and build a shared one that gives your children a steady sense of security. We talk about unity in marriage, how it shapes a child's emotional world, and why kids feel safest when mom and dad stand together. Dr. Gregg also breaks down attachment parenting, pointing out what helps, what stresses families, and why connection between parents matters more than perfect technique. Listen in to get tools for handling anxiety and staying grounded. You will walk away encouraged, supported, and ready to grow as a family (we were!). Key Takeaways Children are not naturally built to listen Their brains are still developing, so parents need realistic expectations and a shared rulebook to guide family life with consistency. Parental unity creates a child's secure base A cohesive marriage provides emotional safety. When parents stand together, children regulate better, feel protected, and thrive. Attachment parenting works best when parents are connected to each other The focus should not be on perfect techniques, but on calm, present, regulated parents who work as a team. Faith and community strengthen parenting Trust in divine providence and a grounded spiritual life help parents grow in emotional maturity. Catholic mindfulness reduces anxiety Mindful presence, paired with trust in God, reshapes anxious brain patterns. Even a few minutes a day can improve decision making, calm fears about parenting, and support healthier family relationships. Couple Discussion Questions What were our "rulebooks" from our families when we were growing up? How can we create our own rulebook for our family? When do we feel most united in our parenting? When do we feel most divided?

Dec 1, 20251h 13m

MFP 359: How to Choose Toys for Christmas

"Baby Jesus was an amazing surprise to the world on Christmas morning, and gifts under the tree remind us of that wondrous gift each year." - Regina Doman Summary Mothers create the environment of the home by what we allow in our house, how we arrange our home, and where things are kept. We are teaching our children all the time, not just by what we say and do, but the home that we create for our families. We communicate what we value and what we want our children to learn by the "stuff" in our home. Moms have to be thoughtful and intentional about this. Listen into this conversation that Alicia has with her sister Regina Doman, author and speaker, about the questions she asks herself before buying items for her family for Christmas. You can hear more from Regina by following her at reginadoman.substack.com Key Takeaways Questions to ask yourself before bringing something into your home….. Is it beautiful? Everyone sees beauty differently! Is this toy annoying? If you enjoy a toy, your child may too! Does it teach the child how the world works? Children learn to trust their senses through natural materials. How long will it last? Is it durable and how long will the child play with it? Can this child care for this toy? Make sure it is developmentally appropriate What are the limitations of our home? Make sure it fits your lifestyle and the space you have in your home. Couple Discussion Questions Are we intentional about the toys and items that we have in our home for the kids? Which of the above questions do I feel strongly about? Let's discuss this.

Nov 24, 202551 min

MFP 358: Thriving, not just surviving with lots of littles

Summary Are you exhausted, overwhelmed, or wondering whether you're doing anything right as a parent of little ones? You're not alone — and you're not crazy. In this refreshed and expanded episode, Mike and Alicia revisit their classic "Survival Zone" conversation with new insights from another decade of parenting and now grandparenting. They unpack why the early years are so intense, what's normal (hint: your exhaustion), how marriage is stretched during this season, and how moms and dads can support each other through the chaos. You'll hear practical advice on setting realistic ideals, finding community, leaning on others for help, navigating time traps like social media, letting dads step up in their unique way, and prioritizing your marriage in the midst of diapers and dishes. Whether you're in the trenches right now or reflecting back on that season, this episode offers encouragement, perspective, and a reminder: this won't last forever — and it will make you stronger. Key Takeaways Reassess ideals Consider getting outside help - isolation hurts this Dads have to step in - great opportunity for men to gain confidence Get out alone together Beware of "time traps" Get some good routines going that work for you This is training for your life. If you can do this, you can do anything Couple Discussion Questions How can we support each other during this time? What are the greatest lessons that we are learning? 🙏 If this ministry has blessed you, please consider supporting the Messy Family Project! https://www.messyfamilyproject.org/give 📋 Take our 2025 Listener Survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MXKQLYW For more information on this and other topics visit: https://www.messyfamilyproject.org/

Nov 17, 202558 min

MFP 357: Marriage Q&A: When It Feels Hard, How Do You Stay Connected?

In this honest Q&A episode, Mike and Alicia answer real questions from listeners about the struggles every couple faces – feeling distant, managing conflict, and staying united when life gets stressful. They talk about what to do when your marriage feels dry or disconnected, how to rebuild emotional intimacy, and how humility, forgiveness, and shared prayer can bring healing. With humor and wisdom from decades of marriage and mentoring, they offer hope for couples who want to grow together, not just stay together. Couples Discussion Questions What should I do when my spouse seems emotionally distant? How can we reconnect after a big argument? How do we stay close when life feels overwhelming? What if I'm the only one trying to fix our marriage? Whether you're newly married or in the thick of family life, this episode will remind you: every marriage has hard seasons, but grace makes growth possible. We'd love your feedback! Take our 2025 Listener Survey and help us serve families better: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MFP-2025 For more information on this and other topics visit: https://www.messyfamilyproject.org/

Nov 10, 20251h 0m

MFP 356: Twenty Minutes to Change a Kid's Life – the Importance of Family Dinners

Families need to disconnect from the world's pace, be present to one another and break bread together. - Bishop Thomas Olmstead Summary Why are family dinners so hard — and so important? In our latest Messy Family Podcast episode, we get real about the chaos of mealtime: the cooking, the planning, the juggling schedules, picky eaters, and the endless cleanup. But we also share the good news — it doesn't have to be perfect to matter. Family meals aren't just about food. They're a time to build identity, teach traditions, and give your kids a sense of belonging. Research shows that sharing meals boosts kids' grades, strengthens communication, and protects against depression and risky behaviors. We'll give you practical tips to make family meals doable — even joyful — in the middle of everyday mess. From simple routines to conversation starters and kid-friendly chores, this episode will help you make mealtime your family's "north star." Listen now and rediscover the power of your dinner table! Key Takeaways Close with: "Those 20 minutes around your table might be the most important minutes of your child's day." Recap: Family meals strengthen minds, hearts, and homes Make it a priority Have a routine Use the time to connect Include the kids to make it happen! Couple Discussion Questions How often does your family sit down together? What is one thing we can do to improve our time together?

Nov 3, 20251h 8m

MFP 355: Making Your Marriage #1

Summary In this re-release of Episode MFP191, we open up about one of the biggest challenges every couple faces—finding time for each other in the midst of busy family life. After 31 years of marriage, we've learned that love doesn't just grow on its own; it takes intention and effort because although our marriages are always Important, they are rarely Urgent. In this episode, we share our own stories, some laughs, and practical ways to stay connected—whether through daily check-ins, regular date nights, or an occasional weekend away. We also talk about how to make this happen and what to do when you are together to use your time well. When we invest time in our marriage, our whole family benefits. So take a moment, grab your spouse, and listen with us. Let's strengthen our marriages together—because your relationship is worth every minute. Key Takeaways Marriage is never Urgent, but it is always Important. That means you have to intentionally take time for your spouse Marriage is good for people and their mental, emotional, and even physical health. We need to give our spouse our time - daily connections, date nights, and extended time away. Lack of time together leads to decreased "love tank". A full "love tank" smooths out the rough spots in marriage and makes it easier to ignore the little things. You have to be together without the children to renew your marriage and make strong the "couple love" between you which is essential for them. You need a community around you to give inspiration and support for your marriage. Make boundaries and goals for your time together. Use it wisely! Couple Discussion Questions When is our daily connection and regular date night? What is the best way for us to spend that time together?

Oct 27, 20251h 9m

MFP354: How Can I Have a Relationship with God?

"Being Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction." - Pope Benedict XVI Summary Every one of us is on a journey towards eternity. Our life here on earth, our vocation, our careers, our relationships are all just ways that we can grow in our knowledge of ourselves and of God. But many of us struggle to learn how we can stretch ourselves and prioritize our own spiritual growth. In this podcast, we share our own stories of conversation moments and how our spiritual practices have changed and matured over the years. We hope this will give you some inspiration and ideas of how you can come closer to God our Loving Father and see that none of us are ever "done". We are all on a journey towards our eternal home. Key Takeaways To be a good mother or father you must first know who you are as a beloved son or daughter. Do things that put yourself in that place to receive from God such as mass, regular confession, and staying in a state of grace. Be honest about where you are in your season of life. Adopt spiritual practices accordingly Our perception of God is colored by our experience of our parents. Do we see God as having high or low expectations of us? Do we see God giving us high or low support to achieve those expectations? The most healthy relationship has high expectations and high support to achieve them. Recognize that we are constantly growing and maturing in our relationship with God and others. Growth takes time! Couple Discussion Questions What is our perception of God and the Church? Where are we right now in our relationship with Him? How can we as spouses help each other grow in our relationship with both? Resources Go here to purchase these books! https://amzn.to/3O6ce8V

Oct 20, 20251h 12m

MFP 353: Why are Kids so Anxious?

Summary Why are today's kids more anxious than ever before? Mike and Alicia dive into the growing epidemic of anxiety among children and teens – and how modern parenting, technology, and culture all play a role. Drawing insights from Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation, they explore what happens when we overprotect kids in the real world but underprotect them online. From overscheduled lives and endless screen time to lack of sleep, nutrition, and authentic relationships, today's children are under tremendous pressure. But there's hope. The Hernons share concrete, faith-filled ways parents can lead with confidence, slow down family life, and raise children who are resilient, humble, and rooted in reality – not comparison. If you've ever wondered how to calm the chaos and restore peace to your home, this episode offers clarity, conviction, and encouragement for every Catholic parent. Key Takeaways Slow down, do less, accept your child for who they are Have a Consistent bedtime and eat together Lead your family with confidence Indoctrinate your children with your philosophy Teach them humility. Humble kids become content adults Put them in healthy social environments and enjoy true leisure Couple Discussion Questions Look at your schedule and ask yourself WHY - examine each activity and make sure you are intentional about it Do we think our children are anxious? Why and what can we change? Resources Take our 2025 Listener Survey! Everything we do here at the Messy Family Project is for couples and families! We work hard to support and encourage moms and dads as they do the hard work of raising children, managing homes and forming a solid, Catholic family culture. In our survey this year, we are asking for you to share with us some of your greatest challenges and what resources will help you the most. If you have done our survey in the past, please do it again! The more people we have take it, the more effective the information is. So will you take a few minutes to click on the link below and fill out our survey? This survey helps us create new products, target our podcasts to serve your needs better, and gives us a deeper insight into the lives of parents today. Will you help us out? https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MXKQLYW Check out our Amazon Storefront for the Anxious Generation! https://www.amazon.com/shop/messyfamilyproject?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_aipsfshop_BS8NWGQYFJSSV1CQ6XBY

Oct 13, 202559 min

MFP 352: Laughter and Limits in the Family with Dr. Ray

Take your calling seriously and yourself lightly Summary Are you taking parenting a little too seriously? In this episode, we dive into why families need to throw off the burden of "psychological correctness" and rediscover the gift of humor. Parenting isn't a project—it's a wild, messy adventure! We'll share why secure parents can laugh at their mistakes, how to set healthy limits at your table, and how to teach kids the difference between fun teasing and disrespect. Most of all, we'll remind you that your children are a never-ending source of laugh-worthy moments. This week we're joined by the always witty and wise Dr. Ray Guarendi, who brings his trademark humor and insight to help parents embrace joy, laughter, and freedom in family life. Key Takeaways Throw off "psychological correctness"! The gift of humor has been taken away from modern parents because most parents are now overly worried about every word they say. Parents need to take themselves lightly and stop making parenting into a psychological project. Those parents who are insecure can't laugh at themselves. You know you are secure when you can laugh at your mistakes and find humor in the craziness of family life. You decide the limits are your table and teach the difference between good-natured teasing and disrespect. Remember and celebrate that kids are natural sources of laugh-worthy material for life! Couple Discussion Questions Are we able to laugh at ourselves and our mistakes even with our kids? What are some of the funny things that have happened in our family? How can we remember these? Resources Dr Ray website: https://www.drray.com/ Take our 2025 Listener Survey! Everything we do here at the Messy Family Project is for couples and families! We work hard to support and encourage moms and dads as they do the hard work of raising children, managing homes and forming a solid, Catholic family culture. In our survey this year, we are asking for you to share with us some of your greatest challenges and what resources will help you the most. If you have done our survey in the past, please do it again! The more people we have take it, the more effective the information is. So will you take a few minutes to click on the link below and fill out our survey? This survey helps us create new products, target our podcasts to serve your needs better, and gives us a deeper insight into the lives of parents today. Will you help us out? https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MXKQLYW

Oct 6, 202551 min

MFP 351: Why Parents Need to Lead, Not Just Accompany

Summary Parenting isn't just about being present—it's about leading with purpose because children need guidance, not just companionship. In this episode, we start by looking at some quotes from celebrity parents to examine how they are misguided. The reality is that parents are called to protect, not simply please. And we each have different roles: fathers embodying hope and authority, mothers offering love and intuition. Both are crucial, and when either dominates too much, imbalance follows—leading to fragility or rigidity. We need to recognize our children's gifts and desires and direct them by setting limits and giving formation. Where do we get these limits? By seeking the wisdom that is from above. We can't figure out life without God's wisdom and kids can't figure life without us. Parents need to hold a vision of who their child can become and make tough calls for their good. Simply "accompanying" isn't enough. Instead, loving leadership is one of the greatest gifts a parent can give. Key Takeaways Parenting is leadership, not passive companionship. Fathers and mothers offer distinct but complementary strengths—hope and authority vs. love and intuition. Children need structure, like a river needs banks—boundaries guide them safely. Wisdom is essential—parents must seek it and model it as they lead. Couple Discussion Questions In what ways do we each naturally lead our children—where do we shine, and where do we fall short? Are we setting strong enough "banks" for our kids, or are we just going with the flow? How can we invite God's wisdom into our parenting decisions, especially when we're unsure or disagree? Earthen Vessels book: https://matthewleeanderson.com/book/earthen-vessels/

Sep 29, 202547 min

MFP 350: Satan Has a Plan for Your Family

"The devil is afraid of a united husband and wife." —St. John Chrysostom Summary The family is Satan's top target because it reflects God's very nature and holds the foundation of civilization. Marriage isn't just a social contract—it's a sacrament with spiritual power, which makes it a threat to evil. The enemy's strategy is subtle: sow disunity between spouses, confuse gender roles, exhaust parents, and replace faith formation with screens and busyness. By silencing prayer and fracturing family time, he slowly erodes the family's ability to thrive spiritually. But families aren't powerless. The fight starts with unity in marriage, sacrificial love, anchoring in prayer and the sacraments, and surrounding ourselves with like-minded families. The attack is real, but so is the remedy. A faithful, united, praying family is Satan's worst nightmare. As St. John Paul II said, "The future of the world and of the Church passes through the family." The path forward is clear—lead your family with faith, courage, and love. Key Takeaways The family mirrors the Trinity, which is why Satan targets it relentlessly. Marriage is a spiritual battleground, not just a relationship. Disunity, distraction, and distorted roles are key tools the enemy uses. Prayer, unity, sacrifice, and community are how families fight back. Couple Discussion Questions Where do we feel the biggest spiritual attacks or distractions in our family life right now? Are we modeling unity for our kids—or are we forgetting that our witness is just as important as our teaching? What's one practical change we can make this week to reclaim prayer or family time in our home?

Sep 22, 20251h 0m

MFP 349: Why Have Kids? an Interview with the author of Hannah's Children

"I think that bringing children into the world is like bringing holiness into the world." - Catherine Pakaluk Summary In this episode, Mike and Alicia sit down with Catherine Pakaluk, economist and author of Hannah's Children, to challenge common cultural myths about large families. Secular researchers often assume religious women have many children because they are oppressed, but Catherine explains why this is far from true. Instead, faith gives parents the conviction that children are a blessing and the true good of marriage. Struggles, dysfunction, or finances exist in every family, regardless of size—yet joy comes from embracing life, not avoiding it. Mothers discover their fullest potential through their children, and their joy isn't tied to public opinion or material resources. Parenthood is priceless, a long-term collaboration with God, who always gives grace when we say yes to Him. Key Takeaways Secular researchers assume that religious women have many children because they are oppressed. This is a myth. A conviction formed by faith that children are a good of marriage is not irrational. Religious women often are more open to children because they see children as a blessing and their "yes" is an assent to receiving those blessings from God. Many people use their dysfunctions and struggles as an excuse to not have more children, but the reality is that those issues are present regardless of the number of children you have. Mothers achieve their full potential through their children. Most mothers of large families don't care what people say because their joy doesn't come from that anyway. Financial incentives to have children don't work because most parents don't need more material resources to have more children. Parenting is so valuable that money can't buy it. It is priceless. Mothers should never focus on "being done". Embrace your fertility and God will give you the grace when you need it. This is a long-term collaboration with the Lord. Couple Discussion Questions Do we talk about "being done"? Or do we talk about "getting started"? Do we see children as a blessing? Do we want more blessings in our lives right now? Resources Buy the book on Amazon: https://a.co/d/gEGkjEy

Sep 15, 202558 min

MFP 348: Field of Dreams for Families

Summary Every family inherits a legacy, both the blessings and the struggles, yet God calls us to build something new with Him. In this episode, Mike and Alicia reflect on the importance of having a dream for your family that goes beyond survival mode and day-to-day busyness. Drawing inspiration from the film Field of Dreams, they explore how couples can discern God's vision for their home, create a legacy of love, and take bold, countercultural steps together. Whether you're just starting out or sending kids off to college, this conversation will encourage you to pray, dream, and act with faith that "if you build it, HE will come." Key Takeaways Legacy Matters: We inherit patterns from our families of origin, but we can choose what to keep, redeem, or leave behind. Dream Beyond Today: God calls us to think not just about survival, but about a vision that shapes generations. Unity in Marriage: A shared dream unites spouses, strengthens families, and becomes a witness to others. God Provides the Tools: He uses the gifts, circumstances, and desires already present in your life to shape His vision for your family. Practical Step: Pray together, journal your inspirations, and start with simple habits that align with your family's God-given dream. Couple Discussion Questions What legacies from your families of origin do you want to keep—and which ones do you want to leave behind? If you looked five or ten years into the future, what would you want your children (or future children) to say about your family? Where do you see God already giving you the "building blocks" for His dream for your family? What small, concrete step can we take this week to begin living into that dream together? For more information on this and other topics visit: https://www.messyfamilyproject.org/

Sep 8, 202550 min

MFP 347 Families Under Fire - Facing Cultural Challenges

The family is where children discover how to be human. - Archbishop Charles Chaput Summary In this episode, Mike and Alicia tackle some of the toughest family challenges with honesty, humor, and hope. These questions were submitted to us at the Midwest Family Conference, but we never got to them! We talk about things like how to respond to a loved one with a temper or a dysfunctional family that seems to fight constantly. What practical steps can parents take to guard their family culture when outside influences pull in the opposite direction? Mike emphasizes the irreplaceable role of fathers—especially in having honest conversations with teenage sons about life's toughest issues. Alicia offers encouragement for wives supporting their husbands as spiritual leaders, even in the messiness of daily life. Together, they share practical strategies for cultivating virtue—reminding parents that even when kids bring out our weaknesses, God uses family life to make us holy. Key Takeaways We always need to start with ourselves when we come up against difficult relationships in the family. All of us are to work on helping other family members - spouse and children - to grow in holiness. Your family culture needs to be strong to inoculate your children against the culture of the world. Parents' love for each other and joy in their relationship is essential in bringing peace and positivity to the home. The father's role in the life of his teen son and in the spiritual leadership of the home is irreplaceable. It is not your job to make your kids into saints - its their job to make you into a saint! Couple Discussion Questions What do we need to work on in our marriage to bring more love and joy into our home? How can we be a better example for our kids? Are there issues with our kids that we need to discuss? What do we need to improve in our family culture? Resources Anger in Parenting https://messyfamilyproject.org/mfp-076-anger-in-parenting/ Preparing for Adolescence: https://messyfamilyproject.org/mfp-005-preparing-your-tween-and-yourself-for-adolescence/ Women Wonderfully Made Webinar Catholiccouplesgetaway.com

Aug 25, 202557 min