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Nitasha Tiku is a senior writer at Wired. “I’ve always been an incredibly nosy person—not nosy, curious. Curious about the world. It just gives you a license to ask any question, and hopefully if you have a willing editor, the freedom to see something fascinating and pursue it. It was just a natural fit from there. But that also means I don’t have the machismo, ‘breaking news’ sort of a thing. I feel like I can try on different hats, wherever I am.” Thanks to MailChimp and Credible.com for sponsoring this week's episode. @nitashatiku Nitasha on Longform [04:25] "My Life With the Thrill Clit Cult" (Gawker • Oct 2013) [15:50] "Facebook Battles New Criticism After U.S. Indictment Against Russians" (Georgia Wells, Robert McMillan • The Wall Street Journal • Feb 2018) [16:30] "WeWork Used These Documents to Convince Investors It's Worth Billions" (Gawker • Oct 2013) [16:50] "Living in the Disneyland Version of Startup Life" (BuzzFeed • Aug 2016) [16:50] "Dorm Living for Professionals Comes to San Francisco" (Nellie Bowles • New York Times • March 2018) [19:30] "San Francisco or Mumbai? UN Envoy Encounters Homeless Life in California " (Alastair Gee • The Guardian • Jan 2018) [21:40] Tiku’s Archive at BuzzFeed [28:25] "YouTube, the Great Radicalizer" (Zeynep Tufekci • New York Times • March 2018) [30:40] Coin Talk [40:25] "The Worldwide Bloodstream"(Comedy Central • Broad City • Feb 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chana Joffe-Walt is a producer and reporter at This American Life. Her latest story is "Five Women." “I felt like there was more to learn from these stories, more than just which men are bad and shouldn’t have the Netflix special that they wanted to have. And I was interested, also, in that there were groups of women, and that somehow, in having a group of women, you would have variation of experience. There could be a unifying person who they all experienced, but they would inevitably experience that person differently. And that would raise the question of: Why? And I feel like there is this response: ‘Why did she stay?’ Or: ‘Why didn’t she say fuck you?’ Or: ‘I wouldn’t have been upset by that. I wouldn’t have been offended by that thing.’ Which I feel like is a natural response, but also has a lack of curiosity. There are actual answers to those questions that are interesting.” Thanks to MailChimp and Credible.com. @chanajoffewalt Joffe-Walt on Longform [01:10] "Five Women" (This American Life • March 2018) [01:25] Longform Podcast #289: Liliana Segura [02:55] Joffe-Walt's Archive at This American Life [04:55] "Five Women Are Accusing A Top Left-Leaning Media Executive Of Sexually Harassing Them" (Cora Lewis • BuzzFeed • Dec 2017) [06:15] I Love Dick (Amazon Studios • 2016) [08:45] "From Aggressive Overtures to Sexual Assault: Harvey Weinstein’s Accusers Tell Their Stories" (Ronan Farrow • New Yorker • Oct 2017) [10:15] "Lupita Nyong’o: Speaking Out About Harvey Weinstein" (Lupita Nyong'o • New York Times • Oct 2017) [08:25] "Your Reckoning. And Mine" (Rebecca Traister • New York Mag • Nov 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Weisenthal is the executive editor of news for Bloomberg Digital and the co-host of What’d You Miss? and Odd Lots. "If I don’t say yes to this, then I can never say yes to anything again. Because when else am I going to get a chance in life to co-host a tv show? Even if it’s terrible, and I’m terrible at it, and it’s cancelled after three months, and everyone thinks it’s awful, for the rest of my life, I’ll be able to say I co-hosted a cable TV show. And so I was like, you know what—I have to say yes to this." Thanks to MailChimp, Big Questions, and Credible.com for sponsoring this week's episode. @TheStalwart [02:30] "Joe Weisenthal vs. the 24-Hour News Cycle" (New York Times Magazine • May 2012) [04:40] What’d You Miss [05:15] "What Alaska Can Teach Us About Universal Basic Income" (New York • Feb 2018) [15:05] The Stalwart [18:55] Weisenthal’s Archive at Business Insider [54:55] "Annie Duke Explains How To Apply Poker Skills To Markets" (Odd Lots • Feb 2018) [54:05] "This Is What Stock Market Bubbles and Crashes Have in Common" (Odd Lots • Aug 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sean Fennessy is the editor-in-chief of The Ringer and a former Grantland editor. He hosts The Big Picture. "What I try to do is listen to people as much as I can. And try to be compassionate. I think it’s really hard to be on the internet. This is an internet company, in a lot of ways. We have a documentary coming out that’s going to be on linear television that’s really exciting. Maybe we’ll have more of those. But for the moment, podcast, writing, video: it’s internet. [The internet] is an unmediated space of angst and meanness and a willingness to tell people when they’re bad, even when they’ve worked hard on something. That’s like the number one anxiety that I feel like we’re dealing with on a day-to-day basis with everybody, myself included." Thanks to MailChimp, Mubi, and "Dear Franklin Jones" for sponsoring this week's episode. @SeanFennessey Fennessey on Longform [01:45] On Air Fest 2018 [02:20] The Big Picture [02:40] Fennessey’s Archive at The Ringer [03:10] The Bill Simmons Podcast [03:45] Longform Podcast #62: Malcolm Gladwell, Longform Podcast #204: Malcolm Gladwell [05:50] Longform Podcast #196: John Favreau [10:15] "An Oral History of Michael Bay, the Most Explosive Director of All Time" (GQ • June 2011) [12:05] Fennessey’s Archive at Pitchfork [13:50] Chauncey Billups [14:30] "Don't Front on Kanye" (Complex Magazine • Aug 2005) [14:30] "The Business of Carmelo Anthony: How Baltimore's Finest Plans to Take Over the World" (Complex Magazine • June 2005) [17:40] Longform Podcast #66: Andy Ward [23:00] Longform Podcast #268: Jim Nelson [23:55] Longform Podcast #257: Jay Caspian Kang [26:50] "Derek Jeter’s Diary" (Mark Lisanti • Grantland) [27:50] Longform Podcast #44: Jonathan Abrams [37:00] "How LeBron Can Finish His Fairy Tale Better Than MJ" (Bill Simmons • The Ringer • Feb 2018) [40:45] "Yance Ford Made ‘Strong Island’ to Face Down the Past" (The Big Picture • Feb 2018) [41:10] "Greta Gerwig on ‘Lady Bird,’ One of the Year’s Best Movies" (The Big Picture • Nov 2017) [47:42] Longform Podcast #183: Jia Tolentino [48:00] "Calm, Well-Adjusted Nation’s Reading Comprehension Hits 100 Percent" (Rob Harvilla • The Ringer • Oct 2016) [64:00] "If You Want to Have a Staring Contest With the Oscars, You Will Lose: On a Historic Set of Nominations" (The Ringer • Jan 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jenna Wortham is a staff writer at The New York Times Magazine and a co-host of Still Processing. “I feel like I’m still writing to let my 10-year-old self know it’s okay to be you. It’s okay to be a chubby androgynous weirdo. You know what I mean? Like this weird black kid. It’s okay. There are others like you.” Thanks to MailChimp, Mubi, "Food: A Cultural Culinary History," and "Tales" for sponsoring this week's episode. @jennydeluxe www.jennydeluxe.com Wortham on Longform [02:00] Wortham’s New York Times archive [02:00] Still Processing [02:00] Longform Podcast #95: Wesley Moris [02:00] Longform Podcast #218: Wesley Morris [05:35] "Long-Form Journalism Finds a Home" (David Carr • New York Times • March 2011) [06:40] "We Sink Our Claws Into Black Panther with Ta-Nehisi Coates" (Still Processing • Feb 2018) [20:40] Wortham’s Wired archive [25:15] "Meet the Mario Maestros Who Have Video Game Music Rocking Concert Halls" (Joel Stein • Wired • Nov 2007) [26:05] The Underwire [27:08] "Early-Bird Buzz Mounts for Whedon's Dollhouse" (Wired • March 2008) [27:25] "Rosario Dawson Delivers High-Tech Drama in Gemini Division" (Wired • Aug 2008) [43:50] "Facebook to Buy Photo-Sharing Service Instagram for $1 Billion" (New York Times • April 2012) [52:30] "Everybody Sexts" (Matter • Nov 2014) [56:20] "Is ‘RuPaul’s Drag Race’ the Most Radical Show on TV?" (New York Times • Jan 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Idov is a screenwriter, journalist, and the former editor-in-chief of GQ Russia. His latest book is Dressed Up for a Riot. "It just goes to show that the best thing you can possibly do as a journalist is to forget you’re a journalist, go out, have some authentic experiences, preferably fail at something really hard, and then write about that." Thanks to MailChimp and Mubi for sponsoring this week's episode. @michaelidov Idov on Longform [01:15] "The Movie Set That Ate Itself" (GQ • Oct 2011) [02:00] Idov’s Archive at NY Mag [02:25] Dressed Up for a Riot (Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2018) [06:35] “Samizdat” [14:00] "Bitter Brew" (Slate • Dec 2009) [16:55] Ground Up (Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2009) [19:30] Adam Moss on the Longform Podcast [19:35] Jim Nelson on the Longform Podcast [21:40] "Georgia’s Next Leader May Be a Billionaire Zookeeper with Albino Rapper Children" (The New Republic • Sep 2012) [22:20] "Dosvedanie to All That" (Julia Ioffe • The New Republic • Feb 2014) [24:30] 4 (Magnolia Home Entertainment • 2009) [32:50] "My Accidental Career as a Russian Screenwriter" (New York Times • Jan 2016) [33:05] "Russia: Life After Trust" (New York • Jan 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Liliana Segura writes for The Intercept. “My form of advocacy against the death penalty, frankly, has always been to tell those stories that other people aren’t seeing. And to humanize the people—not just the people facing execution, but everyone around them.” Thanks to MailChimp, Mubi, and Tripping.com for sponsoring this week's episode. @LilianaSegura Segura on Longform [01:50] "Dispatch From Angola: Faith-Based Slavery in a Louisiana Prison" (Colorlines • Aug 2011) [02:10] "What Happened to Rachel Gray" (The Intercept • Oct 2017) [02:15] "The Fire on Howard Avenue" (The Intercept • March 2017) [05:30] Bolton’s [06:10] Segura’s Archive at The Intercept [07:05] "Arkansas Plans to Execute Seven People This Month, Continuing Long Tradition of Assembly-Line" (The Intercept • April 2017) [11:00] "Playing With Fire" (The Intercept • Feb 2015) [25:30] "As Families in Charleston Share Stories and Pain, Dylann Roof Shows No Remorse" (The Intercept • Jan 2017) [25:30] "Will Dylann Roof’s Execution Bring Justice? Families of Victims Grapple With Forgiveness and Death" (The Intercept • Jan 2017) [28:50] "How a Daughter’s Search for her Biological Father Led to an Execution in Arkansas" (The Intercept • April 2017) [36:40] Segura’s Archive at Alter Net [38:40] "Five Women Are Accusing A Top Left-Leaning Media Executive Of Sexually Harassing Them" (Cora Lewis • BuzzFeed • Dec 2017) [46:10] "Publisher of The New Republic Resigns After Misconduct Claims" (Sydney Ember • NY Times • Nov 2017) [56:05] "A Living Death: Life Without Parole for Nonviolent Offenses" (ACLU Foundation • Nov 2013) [57:55] "Lead Prosecutor Apologizes for Role in Sending Man to Death Row" (A.M. "Marty" Stroud III • Shreveport Times • March 2015) [58:20] "A Prosecutor Seeks Redemption. Can We Allow Prisoners the Same?" (The Intercept • March 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Seth Wickersham is a senior writer for ESPN. His latest article is "For Kraft, Brady and Belichick, Is This the Beginning of the End?" “You want to write about something real. I hate stories that are, the tension of the story is, talk radio perception versus the reality that I see when I’m with somebody. I can’t stand those stories because to me, you’re just writing about the ether versus a real person, and that’s not a real tension to me. The inner tensions are the best tensions. You can’t get to them with everybody, but you try.” Thanks to MailChimp and Mubi for sponsoring this week's episode. @SethWickersham Wickersham on Longform [02:10] "For Kraft, Brady and Belichick, Is This the Beginning of the End?" (ESPN • Jan 2018) [05:35] "Spygate to Deflategate: Inside What Split the NFL and Patriots Apart " (Don Van Natta Jr., Seth Wickersham • ESPN • Sep 2015) [05:35] "The Secret Life of Tiger Woods" (Wright Thompson • ESPN • April 2016) [15:05] "Why Richard Sherman Can't Let Go of Seattle's Super Bowl Loss" (ESPN • May 2017) [16:35] "Sin City or Bust " (Seth Wickersham, Don Van Natta Jr. • ESPN • April 2017) [19:10] @bruceallen [25:05] “The Brady Hunch” (ESPN The Magazine • Dec 2001) [26:00] The TB12 Method: How to Achieve a Lifetime of Sustained Peak Performance (Tom Brady • Simon & Schuster • 2017) [26:50] “The Drive That Never Ends” (ESPN The Magazine • Sept 2016) [28:25] “Tom Brady's Most Dangerous Game” (ESPN The Magazine • Oct 2017) [30:15] “A Football Life: Meet Bill Belichick” (NFL Productions • NFL Network • 2009) [30:20] “Patriots Coach Bill Belichick Dressed Up as a Pirate for Halloween” (Nick Schwartz • USA Today • Oct 2013) [41:40] “Rick Carlisle Rips ESPN for Publishing LaVar Ball Story on Luke Walton's Job Status” (Chris Chavez • Sports Illustrated • Jan 2018) [44:20] "John Skipper Resigns as ESPN president; George Bodenheimer Takes Over as Acting Chairman” (ESPN • Dec 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nathan Thornburgh is the co-founder of Roads & Kingdoms. "You have to remain committed to the kind of irrational act of producing journalism for an uncaring world. You have to want to do that so bad, that you will never not be doing that. There’s so many ways to die in this business." Thanks to MailChimp, Mubi, and Rise and Grind for sponsoring this week's episode. @thornburgh Thornburgh on Longform [01:45] Roads & Kingdoms [02:50] Pico Iyer [01:45] Coin Talk [05:35] "SATW Foundation Lowell Thomas Travel Journalism Competition Awards for Works Published in 2014 - 2015" [07:40] "The Prawn War" (Michael Snyder • Roads & Kingdoms • Sep 2016) [17:40] "The Mysterious Demise of Lucky Peach Magazine and Its Uncertain Future" (Tim Carman • Washington Post • March 2017) [20:15] "The Sound of Change: Can Music Save Cuba?" (Time • Nov 2008) [27:10] “Myanmar Unsanctioned" (Roads & Kingdoms • March 2012) [27:20] “Three Keys to Eating Well in Burma" (Matt Goulding • Roads & Kingdoms • May 2012) [28:10] "PRO MOVES by Breville and Roads and Kingdom" (breville • Feb 2015) [32:20] "Getting Kabul’s Milk to Market" (May Jeong • Roads & Kingdoms • Oct 4 2013) [39:20] Grape, Olive, Pig, Travels: Deep Travels Through Spain's Food Culture (Matt Goulding • Harper Wave/Anthony Bourdain • 2016) [41:00] "The R&K Guide to Accra" [41:15] "The R&K Guide to Tokyo" [41:30] "The R&K Guide to New Orleans" [48:10] The Trip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kiera Feldman is an investigative reporter. Her latest article is "Trashed: Inside the Deadly World of Private Garbage Collection." "I used to have a lot of anxiety that I don’t seem like an investigative reporter. Utlimately, my reporting personality is just me. It’s just, I want to be real with people. And the number one rule of reporting is to be a human being to other people. Be decent. Be kind." Thanks to MailChimp, RXBAR, and Tripping.com for sponsoring this week's episode. @kierafeldman kierafeldman.com Feldman on Longform [00:45] "Trashed: Inside the Deadly World of Private Garbage Collection" (Pro Publica • Jan 2018) [2:00] "With Child: The Right to Choose in Rapid City" (Harper's • Dec 2016) [2:00] "This Is My Beloved Son" (This Land Press • Oct 2014) [2:10] Longform Best of 2017 [03:00] The Investigative Fund Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Azmat Khan is an investigative reporter and a contributing writer to The New York Times Magazine. "For me, what matters most is systematic investigation, and I think that’s different than an investigative story that might explore one case. It’s about stepping back and understanding the big picture and getting to the heart of something. It doesn’t have to be a number’s game, but being able to say: Look, I looked at a wide enough sample of whatever this issue is, and here is what this tells us. That is what I crave and love the most." Thanks to MailChimp and Barkbox for sponsoring this week's episode. @azmatzahra azmatzahra.com Khan on Longform [00:05] Coin Talk [01:55] Longform Podcast #125: Anand Gopal [01:55] "The Uncounted" (Azmat Khan, Anand Gopal • New York Times Magazine • Nov 2017) [02:35] "Targeting ISIS, and Killing Civilians" (Michael Barbaro • The Daily • Nov 2017) [02:35] "Counting Civilian Casualties in Iraq" (Michael Barbaro • The Daily • Nov 2017) [02:35] "The Unpaid Price of Civilian Casualties" (Michael Barbaro • The Daily • Nov 2017) [03:05] Longform Podcast #265: Michael Barbaro [26:25] "Ghost Students, Ghost Teachers, Ghost Schools" (BuzzFeed • July 2015) [31:35] "An Accounting for the Uncounted" (Robert Malley, Stephen Pomper • The Atlantic • Dec 2017) [34:10] "When War Comes Close to Home" (Zareena Grewal • NYTimes • Oct 2015) [52:40] "The Bombing of Al-Bara" (Frontline • Nov 2015) [53:15] No Good Men Among the Living: America, the Taliban, and the War through Afghan Eyes (Anand Gopal • Metropolitan Books • 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ben Taub is a staff writer at The New Yorker. “I don’t think it’s my place to be cynical because I’ve observed some of the horrors of the Syrian War through these various materials, but it’s Syrians that are living them. It’s Syrians that are being largely ignored by the international community and by a lot of political attention on ISIS. And I think that it wouldn’t be my place to be cynical when some of them still aren’t.” Thanks to MailChimp and Tripping for sponsoring this week's episode. @bentaub91 Taub on Longform [01:45] David Remnick on the Longform Podcast [07:45] "Was U.S. Journalist Steven Sotloff a Marked Man?" (Daily Beast • Sep 2014) [27:00] Taub on The Voice (YouTube) [32:00] "Journey to Jihad" (New Yorker • Jun 2015) [48:00] Rukmini Callimachi on the Longform Podcast (Part 1) [48:00] Rukmini Callimachi on the Longform Podcast (Part 2) [49:30] "The Shadow Doctors" (New Yorker • Jun 2016) [49:30] "The Assad Files," funded in part by a grant from the Pulitzer Foundation (New Yorker • Apr 2016) [51:00] "’They were torturing to kill’: inside Syria’s death machine" (Guardian • Oct 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Maggie Haberman covers the White House for The New York Times. “If I start thinking about it, then I’m not going to be able to just keep doing my job. I'm being as honest as I can — I try not to think about it. If you’re flying a plane and you think about the fact that if the plane blows up in midair you’re gonna die, do you feel like you can really focus as well? So, I’m not thinking about [the stakes]. This is just my job. This is what we do. Ask me another question.” Thanks to MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @maggieNYT Haberman on Longform [01:45] "Manafort Talks With Senate Investigators About Meeting With Russians" (with Eileen Sullivan and Adam Goldman • New York Times • Jul 2017) [02:15] Haberman’s New York Times archive [02:30] Haberman’s New York Post archive [02:30] Haberman’s New York Daily News archive [03:15] readthissummer.com [03:15] "Paladino assails Cuomo’s parenting" (Politico • Oct 2010) [08:30] Harold and the Purple Crayon (Crockett Johnson • Harper Collins • 2015) [12:15] "Inside Donald Trump’s Last Stand: An Anxious Nominee Seeks Assurance" (with Ashley Parker, Jeremy W. Peters, and Michael Barbaro • New York Times • Nov 2016) [19:15] Private Parts [21:30] "Excerpts From the Times’s Interview With Trump" (with Peter Baker and Michael S. Schmidt • New York Times • Jul 2017) [32:45] "Trump and Staff Rethink Tactics After Stumbles" (with Glenn Thrush • New York Times • Feb 2017) [35:15] Steve Dunleavy’s New York Post archive [44:15] Broadcast News Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tina Brown, the former editor of Vanity Fair and The New Yorker, is the founder of Women in the World. Her latest book is The Vanity Fair Diaries. “I believed that my bravado had no limit, if you know what I mean. I see limits now, let’s put it that way. I do see limits. But you know, I’m still pretty reckless when I want something. That’s why I don’t tweet much. I’ll say something that will just cause me too much trouble.” Thanks to MailChimp and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @TinaBrownLM [00:00] Longform Best of 2017 [03:00] Vanity Fair Diaries (Henry Holt and Co. • 2014) [05:35] Tatler [12:00] "Darkness Visible" (William Styron • Vanity Fair • Dec 1989) [14:40] "Guarding Sing Sing" (Ted Conover • New Yorker • April 2000) [14:40] Longform Podcast #38 Ted Conover [16:00] "Dominick Dunne on His Daughter’s Murder" (Dominick Dunne • Vanity Fair • March 1984) [28:10] "10 Years Ago, an Omen No One Saw" (David Carr • New York Times • Aug 2009) [31:50] The Diana Chronicles (Anchor • 2007) [38:40] "Bruna Papandrea Options Tina Brown’s ‘Vanity Fair Diaries’ For Limited TV Series" (Nellie Andreeva • Deadline • Sept 2017) [41:43] Women in the World Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mara Shalhoup was until recently editor-in-chief of LA Weekly. She is the author of BMF: The Rise and Fall of Big Meech and the Black Mafia Family. “I’m so fearful about what it will look like for cities without an outlet for [alt-weekly] stories. And for young writers, who need and deserve the hands-on editing these kind of editors can give them and help really launch careers … it’s a tragedy for journalism. It’s a tragedy for young people, people of color. It’s a tragedy for the subjects of stories that won’t get written now. That’s just the reality.” Thanks to Mail Chimp, Mubi, and Skillshare for sponsoring this week's episode. @mshalhoup Shalhoup on Longform [01:15] Creative Loafing [01:20] Chicago Reader [01:35] "Rich People Demolished L.A. Weekly To Build The Future They Want For Journalism" (Patrick Redford • Deadspin • Dec 2017) [06:55] "Brian Calle Wants to Turn LA Weekly into 'The Cultural Center' of the City " (Lauren Raab • LA Times • Nov 2017) [11:00] "LA Weekly Reveals Its Secret Owners: Mostly Men with Orange County Ties" (David Pierson, Lauren Raab • LA Times • Dec 2017) [12:25] @LAWeekly [13:10] "Armstrong Williams Wants to Buy Washington City Paper: Report" (Brett Samuels • The Hill • Dec 2017) [30:45] "A Touch of Gastronomic Magic Spices Up Voltaggio's ink.well" (Javier Cabral • LA Weekly • Dec 2017) [30:55] "James and Dave Franco Make a Great Film About the Worst Movie Ever: The Room" (April Wolfe • LA Weekly • Dec 2017) [36:15] "Hip-hop's Shadowy Empire" (Creative Loafing • Dec 2006) [36:15] BMF: The Rise and Fall of Big Meech and the Black Mafia Family (St. Martin's Griffin • Jan 2011) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Zoe Chace is a reporter and producer at This American Life. “Radio is a movie in your head. It’s a very visual thing. It’s a transporting thing—when it’s done well. And it’s louder than your thoughts. It is both of those things. It would just take me out of the place that I was, where I was lost and couldn’t figure things out. ... They had a very personal way of telling the story to you, so that you kind of felt like you’re there with them. Like it’s less lonely, it’s literally less lonely to have them there. And that felt really good.” Thanks to MailChimp, Mubi, Squarespace, and Casper for sponsoring this week's episode. @zchace [02:30] Chace's Archive at This American Life [02:30] Chace's Archive at Planet Money [04:00] Longform Podcast #239: Brian Reed [05:50] S-Town [16:10] Weekend Edition Saturday [25:45] "Donald Trump: Ban all Muslim travel to U.S." (Jeremy Diamond • CNN • Dec 2015) [28:55] "I Thought I Knew You" (This American Life • Jan 2016) [33:35] "Sex, Boyhood and Politics in South Carolina" (This American Life • Feb 2016) [41:35] "The Believer" (Julia Ioffe • Politico • June 2016) [43:00] "Will I Know Anyone at This Party" (This American Life • Oct 2016) [43:30] "Party in the USA" (This American Life • Oct 2016) [50:25] "Flake News" (This American Life • Oct 2017) [55:10] "Fighting Donald Trump Cost Jeff Flake His Job. But He's Not Going Quietly" (Nash Jenkins • Time • Nov 2017) [55:20] Conscience of a Conservative: A Rejection of Destructive Politics and a Return to Principle (Jeff Flake • Random House • 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason Leopold is a senior investigative reporter for Buzzfeed and the author of News Junkie. “I made the worst mistake that cost me my credibility and I could have done two things. I could have walked away, and said I’m done with this, no one wants me anymore. Or I could have—which I did—say, I’m going to learn how to do this differently, and be better. And that’s ultimately is what paved the way to this FOIA work. Because no one trusted me anymore.” Thanks to MailChimp, Credible, Mubi, and Skillshare, for sponsoring this week's episode. @JasonLeopold Leopold on Longform [01:50] "Promethea Unbound" (Mike Mariani • Ativist • Nov 2017) [02:10] FOIA.gov [03:45] Leopold’s Buzzfeed Archive [05:15] "Military-Industrial Complex Speech" (Dwight D. Eisenhower • Public Papers of the Presidents • 1961) [07:50] "How I Got Clinton’s Emails" (Vice • Nov 2016) [12:40] "Did Sebastian Gorka Bolt From the White House—Or Was He Pushed?" (Asawin Suebsaeng, Spencer Ackerman • The Daily Beast • Aug 2017) [13:50] "Sebastian Gorka Gave A Classified 'Tirade' About Radical Islam?" (Buzzfeed • Sept 2017) [16:30] "How the US Military's Fight Against the Islamic State Became 'Operation Inherent Resolve’" (Vice News • Jan 2016) [22:10] "A Bunch Of CIA Contractors Got Fired For Stealing Snacks From Vending Machines" (Jason Leopold, David Mack • Buzzfeed • June 2017) [26:10] News Junkie (Rare Bird Books • June 2014) [27:35] "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Reporters" (Truthout • May 2006) [41:00] "Air Force Pulls ‘Jesus Loves Nukes’ Ethics Training After Publication of Truthout Report" (Truthout • July 2011) [50:00] Citizen Four (Praxis Films • 2014) [53:10] "The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks" (Julia Ioffe • The Atlantic • Nov 2017) [53:40] "Secret Finding: 60 Russian Payments ‘To Finance Election Campaign Of 2016’ (Jason Leopold, Anthony Cormier, Jessica Garrison • Buzzfeed • Nov 2017) [59:15] Investigative Reporters and Editors [59:25] National Security Archive [59:35] "Effective FOIA Requesting for Everyone” (National Security Archive • 2008) [60:50] FOIA Online Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kara Swisher is the executive editor and co-founder of Recode. “I do the work. I just work harder than other people. I really do. I work harder, I interview more people, I call more people, I text more people. And so I find out, and they can not talk to me — fine. I know anyway. I’d like to talk to you, I’d like to give you a chance. I’d like to be fair. I’d like to hear your side of the story. And the most important thing is, I think smart people – and these are very smart people — like smart questions. They don’t like the fawning questions. They don’t like being licked up and down all day. Some of the day they like it. They want someone who knew them before they were billionaires. Because when you’re a billionaire, every day you’re so smart. Everyone wants something from you.” Thanks to Mubi, Findaway Voices, and Mail Chimp for sponsoring this week's episode. And thanks to Pop-Up Magazine for making our live show possible! @karaswisher [02:35] Longform Podcast #239: Brian Reed [02:50] Recode [02:55] Recode Decode [03:00] Code Conference [04:40] "Kara Swisher’s First Tech Article Was About Pay Phones in 1980" (Jesse Rifkin • A Step in the Write Direction • Nov 2017) [08:10] "McLaughlin Suit Settled" (Jim Naughton, Phil McCombs • Washington Post • Dec 1999) [10:00] "Pundit Power" (Eric Alterman • Washington Post • March 1989) [11:30] Longform Podcast #128: Jack Shafer [22:51] AOL.com: How Steve Case Beat Bill Gates, Nailed the Netheads, and Made Millions in the War for the Web (Crown Business • 1998) [35:25] Swisher’s Archive at Vanity Fair [41:20] "Uber CEO Kalanick Advised Employees on Sex Rules for a Company Celebration in 2013 ‘Miami Letter’" (Kara Swisher, Johana Bhuiyan • Recode • June 2017) [41:40] "A Top Uber Executive, Who Obtained the Medical Records of a Customer Who Was a Rape Victim, Has Been Fired’" (Kara Swisher, Johana Bhuiyan • Recode • June 2017) [41:40] "The Men and (No) Women Facebook of Facebook Management" (Wall Street Journal • Aug 2007) [41:50] "The Men and No Women of Web 2.0 Boards" (Wall Street Journal • Dec 2010) [43:40] "Will Twitter Add a Woman Director Before the IPO?" (Wall Street Journal • Sept 2013) [48:40] " Missing Milly Dowler's Voicemail Was Hacked by News of the World" (Nick Davies, Amelia Hill • The Guardian • July 2011) [58:35] There Must Be a Pony in Here Somewhere (Crown Business • 2003) [61:35] Pop-Up Magazine [61:40] California Sunday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tyler Cowen is an economist, the co-founder of Marginal Revolution, and the host of Conversations with Tyler. His latest book is The Complacent Class: The Self-Defeating Quest for the American Dream. “I think of my central contribution, or what I’m trying to have it be, is teaching people to think of counter arguments. I’m trying to teach a method: always push things one step further. What if, under what conditions, what would make this wrong? If I write something and people respond to it that way, then I feel very happy and successful. If people just agree with me, I’m a little disappointed.” Thanks to MailChimp and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @tylercowen www.tylercowen.com Cowen on Longform [01:10] @maxlinsky [01:30] Marginal Revolution [01:50] Tyler Cowen’s Ethnic Dining Guide [02:00] In Praise of Commercial Culture (Harvard University Press • 1998) [03:20] "Michelangelo: Divine Draftsman and Designer" (The Metropolitan Museum of Art • Nov 2017) [03:25] "The Exterminating Angel" (The Metropolitan Opera • Oct 2017) [09:30] The Complacent Class (St. Martin’s Press • 2017) [13:05] "Job Creation and Firm Dynamics in the United States" (John Haltiwanger • University of Chicago Press • April 2011) [13:25] "The School That Won’t Let Students Play Tag or Hold Hands" (Eleanor Barkhorn• The Atlantic • Nov 2013) [13:30] "Middle School Bans Student’s Star Wars T-Shirt of Stormtrooper Holding a Gun" (Alex Griswold • Mediaite • Dec 2015) [42:25] "Ethiopian" (Tyler Cowen's Ethnic Dining Guide • March 2006) [42:30] "Afghan Bistro" (Tyler Cowen's Ethnic Dining Guide • Sept 2016) [42:35] "Elephant Jumps" (Tyler Cowen's Ethnic Dining Guide • March 2014) [43:20] "Erdogan Guards Will Face Charges for Beating D.C. Protesters" (Caroline Bankoff • NY Mag • June 2017) [43:50] Cowen’s Archive at the Bloomberg View Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jodi Kantor is a New York Times investigative reporter and the author of The Obamas. “Being a reporter really robs you of self-consciousness and shyness. You realize that it’s this great gift of being able to ask crazy questions, either really personal or very probing or especially with a powerful — to walk up to Harvey Weinstein, essentially and say, ‘What have you been doing to women all these years, and for how long? All of these other people may be afraid to confront you about it, but we are not.’ That is our job.” Thanks to MailChimp and Eero for sponsoring this week's episode. @jodikantor jodikantor.net Kantor on Longform 11/12: Longform Podcast, Live in Chicago with Zoe Chace 11/15: Longform Podcast, Live in San Francisco with Kara Swisher [00:50] "Harvey Weinstein Paid Off Sexual Harassment Accusers for Decades" (Jodi Kantor, Megan Twohey • New York Times • Oct 2017) [02:10] "Promethea Unbound" (Mike Mariani • Atavist • Nov 2017) [03:30] "From Aggressive Overtures to Sexual Assault: Harvey Weinstein’s Accusers Tell Their Stories" (Ronan Farrow • New Yorker • Oct 2017) [03:45] "Harvey Weinstein’s Army of Spies" (Ronan Farrow • New Yorker • Nov 2017) [04:50] "New Accusers Expand Harvey Weinstein Sexual Assault Claims Back to ’70s" (Ellen Gabler, Megan Twohey, Jodi Kantor • New York Times • Oct 2017) [5:15] "Kevin Spacey Issues Apology to Actor After Sexual Accusation " (Michael Paulson • New York Times • April 2017) [8:00] "Bill O’Reilly Thrives at Fox News, Even as Harassment Settlements Add Up" (Emily Steel, Michael S. Schmidt • New York Times • April 2017) [9:05] "Women in Tech Speak Frankly on Culture of Harassment" (Katie Benner • New York Times • June 2017) [10:50] "Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace" (Jodi Kantor, David Streitfeld • New York Times • Aug 2015) [18:55] "Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie and Others Say Weinstein Harassed Them" (Jodi Kantor, Rachel Abrams • New York Times • Oct 2017) [38:10] "Working Anything but 9 to 5" (New York Times • Aug 2014) [46:10]Longform Podcast #198: Franch Rich [48:00]The Obamas (Little, Brown and Company • 2012) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jim Nelson is the editor-in-chief of GQ. “One of the things that was initially a challenge was we would all think of ‘the print side’ and ‘the digital side.’ Now what we all think about is, ‘Okay, stop saying GQ.com and GQ the print edition. It’s just GQ!’ And once you cross that line, you don’t ever want to go back to it. I can’t imagine. The job has changed so much, even in the last three years, that when I look back, I think, ‘God, I was just such a quaint little fucker.’” Thanks to MailChimp and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. [01:15] 11/12: Longform Podcast, Live in Chicago with Zoe Chace [01:25] 11/15: Longform Podcast, Live in Chicago with Kara Swisher [10:25] "The Horrible Bosses of Hollywood" (GQ • April 2014) [14:10] "Shipping Out" (David Foster Wallace • Harper’s Magazine • Jan 1996) [14:15] "Ticket to the Fair" (David Foster Wallace • Harper’s Magazine • July 1994) [19:15] Pineapple Street Media [21:30] "The AIDS Deniers" (GQ • June 2017) [28:35] "Rick Santorum Is Straight" (Robert Draper • GQ • Aug 2003) [32:35] GQ on Snapchat Discover [33:55] GQ on Instagram [43:25] "Upon This Rock" (John Jeremiah Sullivan • GQ • Jan 2004) [44:50] "The Incredible Buddha Boy" (George Saunders • GQ • May 2006) [45:25] "Traffic" (Jeanne Marie Laskas • GQ • March 2009) [45:25] "Underworld" (Jeanne Marie Laskas • GQ • May 2007) [45:50] "Have You Heard the One About President Joe Biden?" (Jeanne Marie Laskas • GQ • July 2013) [45:40] "Inside the Federal Bureau of Way Too Many Guns?" (Jeanne Marie Laskas • GQ • Aug 2016) [45:45] "The Old Man at Burning Man" (Wells Tower • GQ • Aug 2015) [45:50] "Dear Leader Dreams of Sushi" (Adam Johnson • GQ • June 2013) [45:55] "No Exit" (Sean Flynn • GQ • Sept 2013) [45:05] "18 Tigers, 17 Lions, 8 Bears, 3 Cougars, 2 Wolves, 1 Baboon, 1 Macaque, and 1 Man Dead in Ohio" (Chris Heath • GQ • Feb 2012) [45:15] "Searching for Sugar Daddies" (Taffy Brodesser-Akner • GQ • Aug 2015) [45:15] "The Suicide Catcher" (Mike Paterniti • GQ • Aug 2010) [45:15] "The Uber Killer: The Real Story of One Night of Terror" (Chris Heath • GQ • Aug 2016) [50:45] "The Untold Story of Kim Jong-nam’s Assassination" (Doug Bock Clark • GQ • Sep 2017) [52:45] "I Surrendered My Wardrobe" (Sean Hotchkiss • GQ • Dec 2016) [54:45] "The Blind Faith of Juan Jose Padilla, the One-Eyed Matador" (Karen Russell • GQ • Oct 2012) [55:00] Fly Me (Daniel Riley • Hachette • 2017) [56:15] "Why Me?" (Elizabeth Gilbert • GQ • April 2002) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sarah Ellison is a special correspondent at Vanity Fair and the author of War at the Wall Street Journal. “There’s no lack of stories. ... There’s always an element where you’re going to be parachuting into something that someone has likely written about, to some degree. You can’t shy away from going into something that’s a crowded field.” Thanks to MailChimp, Quip, and BarkBox for sponsoring this week's episode. @Sarahlellison sarahlellison.com Ellison on Longform [00:15] 11/15: Longform Podcast, Live in Chicago with Kara Swisher [00:45] 11/12: Longform Podcast, Live in Chicago with Zoe Chace [03:00] Longform Podcast #111: Anne Helen Petersen [03:00] Longform Podcast #224: Hua Hsu [04:15] The Hive [04:20] Ellison's Vanity Fair archive [05:00] "Exiles on Pennsylvania Avenue: How Jared and Ivanka Were Repelled by Washington’s Elite" (Vanity Fair • Oct 2017) [05:45] "The Inside Story of the Kushner-Bannon Civil War" (Vanity Fair • May 2017) [07:30] Longform Podcast #254 Maggie Haberman [12:30] "The Man Who Spilled Secrets” (Vanity Fair • Feb 2011) [13:15] "Exclusive: Is Donald Trump’s Endgame the Launch of Trump News?" (Vanity Fair • June 2016) [19:30] "Harvey Weinstein Paid Off Sexual Harassment Accusers for Decades" (Jodi Kantor, Megan Twohey • NY Times • Oct 2017) [19:45] "Inside the Final Days of Roger Ailes’s Reign at Fox News" (Vanity Fair • Nov 2016) [27:15]"After a Rape Story, a Murder, and Lawsuits: What’s Next for the Univeristy of Virginia?" (Vanity Fair • Oct 2015) [30:00]"Diana’s Impossible Dream" (Vanity Fair • Sept 2013) [34:35]War at the Wall Street Journal. (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt • May 2010) [37:45]"Has Trump Turned CNN Into a House of Existential Dread?" (Vanity Fair • July 2017) [37:45]"Has Megyn’s Star Already Been Eclipsed?" (Vanity Fair • Sept 2017) [39:45]"Ghosts in the Newsroom" (Vanity Fair • Apr 2012) [40:00]"Ex-New Republic Staffers Knew Chris Hughes Was Fed Up" (Vanity Fair • Jan 2016) [40:00]"The Rules of Succession" (Vanity Fair • Dec 2011) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Patricia Bosworth is a journalist and biographer. Her latest book is The Men in My Life. “The [acting] rejections are hellish and ghastly. At least they were to me. And I got tired of being rejected so much and also tired of not being able to control my life. And as soon as I became a writer, I had this control, I felt more active, more energized. But it was a decision that took a long time coming.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Heaven's Gate for sponsoring this week's episode. @p_bosworth pbosworth.com Bosworth on Longform [00:05] Heaven's Gate [00:25] Snap Judgement [01:25] The Fest Presents: The Longform Podcast with special guest Zoe Chace [02:30] "Some Mother's Boy" (Atavist • Oct 2017) [3:10] Diane Arbus: A Biography (Afred A. Knopf • 1984) [03:10] Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus (River Road Entertainment • 2006) [3:20] The Men in My Life (Harper • 2017) [5:55] Strumpet Wind (Gertrude Bosworth Crum • Covici Friede Publishers • 1938) [6:20] The Tempest (William Shakespeare • Simon & Schuster • 2004) [07:50] Colete’s Archive at The New York Times [09:40] Bosworth’s Archive at Playbill [09:45] The Nun’s Story (Warner Brothers • 1959) [14:15] Stoner [16:00] "To Vonnegut, the Hero Is the Man Who Refuses to Kill" (New York Times • Oct 1970) [18:05] Montgomery Clift: A Biography (Harcourt • 1978) [20:45] Marlon Brando: A Biography (Viking • 2001) [20:55] Jane Fonda: The Private Life of a Public Woman (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt • 2011) [22:30] "New Documents" (The Museum of Modern Art • 1967) [24:10] Harold Nemerov’s Archive at The Poetry Foundation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Barbaro is the host of The Daily. “I don’t think The Daily should ever be my therapy session. That’s not what it’s meant to be, but I’m a human being. I arrive at work on a random Tuesday, and I do an interview with a guy like that, and it just punched me right in the stomach.” Thanks to MailChimp, School of the Art Institute of Chicago, and Blinkist for sponsoring this week's episode. @mikiebarb Barbaro on Longform [00:55] The Daily [01:20] Barbaro’s Archive at The New York Times [03:15] samanthahenig.com [05:40] New Haven Register [10:50] Robert G. Kaiser's The Washington Post archive [15:10] David Leonhardt’s New York Times archive [17:30] "Wal-Mart Memo Suggests Ways to Cut Employee Benefit Costs" (Steven Greenhouse, Michael Barbaro • New York Times • Oct 2005) [19:25] "$1.1 Billion in Thanks From Bloomberg to Johns Hopkins" (New York Times • Jan 2013) [22:20] The Run-Up [19:55] “Trump: New York Times Reporter Should Resign" (Mark Hensch • The Hill • May 2016) [21:10] "Crossing the Line: How Donald Trump Behaved With Women in Private" (Michael Barbaro, Megan Twohey • New York Times • May 2016) [21:40] Longform Podcast #153: Tim Ferriss [27:00] “An Appreciation of Michael Barbaro and 'The Daily'" (Rebecca Mead • New Yorker • Aug 2017) [30:50] “The Climate Change Battle Through One Coal Miner’s Eyes” (The Daily • Mar 2017) [39:25] "A Conversation With a Former White Nationalist" (The Daily • Aug 2017) [39:30] "The White Flight of Derek Black" (Eli Saslow • Washington Post • Oct 2016) [40:20] "Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately" (Megan Twohey, Michael Barbaro • New York Times • Oct 2016) [45:25] “Syria Strike and Senate Standoff” (The Daily • April 2017) [52:15] “Carlos’s Secret” (The Daily • Feb 2017) [52:45] Monica Davey’s Archive at The New York Times [53:30] "We Gotta Talk About Michael Barbaro, The Host of The NYT's Daily Podcast" (Mariah Oxley • Buzzfeed • April 2017) [56:05] Barbaro’s Reddit AMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Vanessa Grigoriadis writes for Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, and The New York Times Magazine. Her new book is Blurred Lines: Rethinking Sex, Power, and Consent on Campus. “I’m a controversial writer. I’ve never shied away from controversy. I’ve only really courted it because I realized a lot earlier than a lot of other people who are involved in this whole depressing business that clicks are the way to go, right? Or eyeballs, as we used to call them, or readership. I come out of a Tom Wolfe-like, Hunter S. Thompson kind of tradition. You don’t mince any words, you just go for the jugular and you say as many things that can stir people up as possible.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Casper for sponsoring this week's episode. @vanessagrigor www.vanessagrigoriadis.com Grigoriadis on Longform [01:20] Longform Podcast #40: Vanessa Grigoriadis [01:35] Grigoriadis’ Archive at Vanity Fair [01:40] Grigoriadis’ Archive at Rolling Stone [01:45] Blurred Lines: Rethinking Sex, Power, and Consent on Campus (Eamon Dolan • 2017) [02:00] "Shining a Light on Campus Rape" (Michelle Goldberg • New York Times • Sep 2017) [06:30] "The Passion of Nicki Minaj" (New York Times • Oct 2015) [06:30] "The Very Pink, Very Perfect Life of Taylor Swift" (Rolling Stone • Mar 2009) [06:30] "Justin Bieber: God, Girls and Boatloads of Swag" (Rolling Stone • Mar 2011) [08:30] "Meet the College Women Who Are Starting a Revolution Against Campus Sexual Assault" (New York • Sep 2014) [11:45] “‘A Rape on Campus’ What Went Wrong?” (Sheila Coronel, Steve Coll, Derek Kravitz • Rolling Stone • April 2015) [22:15] "A Power Player and her Sons Disappear Off the Bahamas" (Jacob Bernstein • New York Times • May 2017) [26:00] "Education Secretary Betsy DeVos Replaces Obama-era Guidelines for Handling Sexual Assault on Campus" (Lauren Rosenblatt • LA Times • Sep 2017) [36:00] "Emasculated? We’ll See!" (New York Post • Oct 2007) [39:00] "New York Times Publishes Eye-Popping Correction on Campus-Sexual-Assault Book Review" (Erik Wemple • Washington Post • Sep 2017) [44:00] "Glamour’s Cindi Leive Joins List of Top Editors to Exit" (Keith J. Kelly • New York Post • Sep 2017) [44:00] "Rolling Stone, Once a Counterculture Bible, Will Be Put Up for Sale" (Sydney Ember • New York Times • Sep 2017) [44:45] "An American Drug Lord in Acapulco" (Rolling Stone • Aug 2011) [45:00] "The Rise and Fall of the Eco-Radical Underground" (Rolling Stone • June 2011) [45:00] "The Tragedy of Britney Spears" (Rolling Stone • Feb 2008) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Jelani Cobb is a New Yorker staff writer and the author of three books, including The Substance of Hope: Barack Obama and the Paradox of Progress. He teaches journalism at Columbia University. “Ralph Wiley — the sports writer, late Ralph Wiley — told me something when I was 25 or so, and he was so right. He said I should never fall in love with anything I’ve written. … The second thing he told me was, ‘You won’t get there overnight, and believe me, you don’t want to.’ I’m embarrassed to say that I didn’t get it when he told me that. I was like — why would I not want to get there overnight? Now I’m like: Thank God I didn’t get there overnight. Because there’s so much writing I would have to explain.” Thanks to MailChimp, Quip, and Audible for sponsoring this week's episode. @jelani9 Cobb on Longform [00:00] Stoner [01:30] Cobb’s Archive at The New Yorker [03:30] "The Life and Death of Jamaica High School" (New Yorker • Aug 2015) [07:45] Cobb’s Archive at Washington City Paper [09:40] Longform Podcast #7: Ta-Nehisi Coates [09:40] Longform Podcast #97: Ta-Nehisi Coates [09:40] Longform Podcast #168: Ta-Nehisi Coates [10:00] Joel Dias-Porter’s Archive at The Poetry Foundation [10:05] Kenneth Carroll’s Archive at The Poetry Foundation [10:10] Elvis Presley Is Alive and Well and Living in Harlem (Brian Gilmore • Third World Press • 1983) [11:30] Marion Barry archive at Washington City Paper [21:05] The Progressive [21:10] The Crisis [23:20] "My Daughter Once Removed" (Chicken Soup for the Soul • 2008) [23:40] The Devil & Dave Chappelle & Other Essays (Basic Books • 2007) [27:31] "Policing the Police" (Frontline • June 2016) [41:00] "The Ambivalent Legacy of Brown v. Board" (New Yorker • May 2014) [41:30] "The Matter of Black Lives" (New Yorker • Mar 2016) [41:30] "What I Saw in Ferguson" (New Yorker • Aug 2014) [44:40] The Substance of Hope: Barack Obama and the Paradox of Progress (Walker Books • 2010) [48:50] Trump’s speech in Arizona (CNN • Aug 2017) [57:00] Birth of a Nation (Epoch Producing Co • 1915) [53:50] "Podcast #168: Jelani Cobb, The Half-Life of Freedom" (NYPL Podcast • June 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

PJ Vogt is the co-host of Reply All. “Every radio story is broken. Everything is missing some piece it’s supposed to have. Everything has some weird interview that didn’t go the way you thought it was going to go, or you thought you had an answer but you were wrong.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Blinkist for sponsoring this week's episode. @PJVogt [01:00] "Black Box" (This American Life • Oct 1988) [1:45] On The Media [1:50] TLDR [03:10] David Sedaris’s Archive at This American Life [9:25] Transom.org [9:35] Alex Blumberg’s Archive at Transom [9:50] Nancy Updike’s Archive at Transom [21:00] "Shine On You Crazy Goldman" (Reply All • Nov 2015) [24:45] Vogt’s Archive at On The Media [29:15] "The Time Traveler and the Hitman" (Reply All • Mar 2015) [32:30] Serial [33:55] "Man of the People" (Reply All • Jan 2017) [34:55] "Hello?" (Reply All • Nov 2016) [35:45] Libsyn.com [35:50] Megaphone.fm [37:05] Gimlet [41:45] Ear Hustle [43:00] S-Town [44:05] "What It Looks Like" (Reply All • Oct 2015) [44:30] "Depressiongrams" (The Message • Sep 2015) [50:00] "What You Don’t Know About Online Dating" (Freakonomics • Feb 2014) [54:05] "Boy in Photo" (Reply All • Oct 2016) [54:25] "Long Distance" (Reply All • Jul 2017) [54:40] "The Cathedral" (Reply All • Jan 2016) [54:45] "On the Inside" (Reply All • May 2016) [54:45] "Milk Wanted" (Reply All • Mar 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alex Goldman is the co-host of Reply All. “I am not the authority on the internet. I’m not an expert on particularly anything, except stuff that I like.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Blinkist for sponsoring this week's episode. @AGoldmund Goldman on Longform [01:30] "Long Distance" (Reply All • Jul 2017) [01:30] "Long Distance, Part II" (Reply All • Jul 2017) [02:00] "This Website is For Sale" (Reply All • Dec 2014) [02:45] TLDR [05:15] metafilter.com [05:15] Matt Haughey on Stoner [06:00] ”How Do I Get a Job at NPR?” (Metafilter • 2009) [08:15] On the Media [11:45] "Stories Pitched by Our Parents" (This American Life • Feb 2010) [13:30] Radiolab [15:30] "Quit Already!" (Reply All • Dec 2015) [17:45] "What Kind of Idiot Gets Phished?" (Reply All • May 2017) [18:00] "Black Hole, New Jersey" (Reply All • Jun 2017) [21:00] "Storming the Castle" (Reply All • Feb 2017) [21:15] "Shine on You Crazy Goldman " (Reply All • Nov 2015) [29:45] Death, Sex & Money [31:30] StartUp [33:45] Serial, Season 1 [35:00] "The Cathedral" (Radio Lab • Dec 2015) [35:00] "All Shipped to Timbuktu" (Reply All • Jun 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hillary Clinton is the former Democratic nominee for president. Her new book is What Happened. “I hugged a lot of people after [my concession speech] was over. A lot of people cried … and then it was done. So Bill and I went out and got in the back of the van that we drive around in, and I just felt like all of the adrenaline was drained. I mean there was nothing left. It was like somebody had pulled the plug on a bathtub and everything just drained out. I just slumped over. Sat there. … And then we got home, and it was just us as it has been for so many years—in our little house, with our dogs. It was a really painful, exhausting time.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Casper for sponsoring this week's episode. @HillaryClinton hillaryclinton.com [00:15] What Happened (Simon & Schuster • 2017) [03:45] Global Warming For Dummies (Elizabeth May & Zoe Caron • For Dummies • 2008) [26:00] "The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton the Election" (Nate Silver • FiveThirtyEight • May 2017) [31:00] "Rosenstein’s Case Against Comey, Annotated" (Candice Norwood & Elaine Godfrey • Atlantic • May 2017) [32:00] The Creation of Anne Boleyn: A New Look at England’s Most Notorious Queen (Susan Bordo • Melville House • 2014) [32:00] The Destruction of Hillary Clinton (Susan Bordo • Melville House • 2017) [37:45] "Margaret Atwood, The Prophet of Dystopia" (Rebecca Mead • New Yorker • Apr 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rachel Kaadzi Ghansah is an essayist. Her latest piece is “A Most American Terrorist: The Making of Dylann Roof.” “I remember feeling like ‘you’re playing chess with evil, and you gotta win.’ Because this is the most terrible thing I’d ever seen. And I was so mad. I still get so mad. Words aren’t enough. I’m angry about it. I can’t do anything to Dylann Roof, physically, so this is what I could do.” Thanks to MailChimp, HelloFresh, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. the-rachelkaadzighansah.tumblr.com Kaadzi Ghansah on Longform [00:45] Kaadzi Ghansah on the Longform Podcast [00:45] "A Most American Terrorist: The Making of Dylann Roof" (GQ • Aug 2017) [22:45] "America’s Most Political Food" (Lauren Collins • New Yorker • Apr 2017) [24:30] Light in August (William Faulkner • Random House • 1990) [44:45] "The Rise of the Valkyries" (Seyward Darby • Harper’s • Sep 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ellen Barry is the former New York Times bureau chief for South Asia. “Every time you leave a beat—and this is something that I think as foreign correspondents we rarely communicate to our readers—you’re walking away from a story which has really been your whole life for four or five years. And it’s hard to walk away…The majority of us live a story for a certain number of years, and then we just turn our backs on it.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Of a Kind for sponsoring this week's episode. @EllenBarryNYT Barry on Longform [01:15] Barry’s New York Times archive [01:30] "How to Get Away With Murder in Small-Town India" (New York Times • Aug 2017) [03:00] readthissummer.com [06:45] "A Newspaper for Its Time" (Moscow Times • Oct 2012) [07:30] "Lost Exile" (James Verini • Vanity Fair • Feb 2010) [09:15] "The Russia Left Behind" (New York Times • Oct 2013) [11:15] "A Specter’s Shadow Returns to Haunt Moscow" (New York Times • Oct 2008) [16:00] Alice Gregory on the Longform Podcast [17:30] The Name of the Wind (Patrick Rothfuss • DAW Books • 2008) [19:15] Jeffrey Gettleman on the Longform Podcast [24:00] "Shooting An Elephant" (George Orwell • New Writing • 1936) [27:45] "In India, a Small Band of Women Risk It All for a Chance to Work" (New York Times • Jan 2016) [30:15] "Modi, India’s Next Prime Minister, Adopts a Softer Tone" (New York Times • May 2014) [38:15] "In Rare Move, Death Sentence in Delhi Gang Rape Case Is Upheld" (New York Times • May 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kate Fagan is a columnist and feature writer for ESPN. Her latest book is What Made Maddy Run: The Secret Struggles and Tragic Death of an All-American Teen. “When I was professionally closeted, I was kind of bitter. I didn’t have a ton of empathy. And I don’t think I always asked the right question, because I wouldn’t ask people questions that I wouldn’t want to be asked…I had walls up. I wouldn’t even allow myself to be vulnerable in my writing. Because the whole point of my existence at that time was to circumvent any moment that could create vulnerability in a way that would frighten me. And I think you could that see in my writing.” Thanks to MailChimp and HelloFresh for sponsoring this week's episode. @katefagan3 bykatefagan.com [00:00] Stoner [00:45] Fagan’s Archive at ESPN [00:45] Around the Horn [01:00] What Made Maddy Run: The Secret Struggles and Tragic Death of an All-American Teen (Little, Brown and Company • 2017) [01:15] "Split Image" (ESPN • May 2015) [06:30] The Reappearing Act: Coming Out as Gay on a College Basketball Team Led by Born-Again Christians (Skyhorse Publishing • 2014) [07:45] "Storybook Ending Trailing Tennessee Late, Unbeaten Connecticut Got Into Gear In Time To Conclude a Charmed Season" (Austin Murphy • Sports Illustrated • Apr 1995) [16:00] Fagan’s Archive at Ellensburg Daily Record [16:30] Fagan’s Archive at The Post Star [16:45] Fagan’s Archive at The Philadelphia Inquirer [22:00] Deep Sixer Blog [37:45] Madison Holleran’s Instagram [44:15] Outside the Lines [44:15] First Take Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jay Caspian Kang is a writer at large at The New York Times Magazine and a correspondent for Vice News Tonight. “I make a pretty provocative argument about how Asian American identity doesn’t really exist—how it’s basically just an academic idea, and it’s not lived within the lives of anybody who’s Asian. Like you grow up, you’re Korean, you’re a minority. You don’t have any sort of kinship with, like, Indian kids. You know? And there’s no cultural sharedness where you’re just like, ‘oh yeah…Asia!’” Thanks to MailChimp, "Mussolini’s Arctic Airship", Blinkist and for sponsoring this week's episode. @jaycaspiankang Kang’s Blog Kang on Longform [00:00] Mussolini’s Arctic Airship (Eva Holland • Kindle Single • Aug 2017) [00:45] "What a Fraternity Hazing Death Revealed About the Painful Search for an Asian-American Identity" (New York Times Magazine • Aug 2017) [00:45] Kang on the Longform Podcast [01:15] Kang’s Archive at The New Yorker [02:30] readthissummer.com [02:45] Havrilesky on the Longform Podcast [05:45] "That Other School Shooting" (New York Times Magazine • Mar 2013) [07:30] The Dead Do Not Improve: A Novel (Hogarth • 2013) [15:15] Tim Ferriss on the Longform Podcast [17:45] "John Wayne: A Love Song" (Joan Didion • Saturday Evening Post • Aug 1965) [22:15] "A Question of Identity" (Grantland • Mar 2012) [24:45] Kang’s Column “On Sports” at The New York Times Magazine [27:30] Les Blank’s Website [27:45] Amy [27:45] Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck [35:15] "No place like home" (Vice News • Jun 2017) [36:15] "The End and Don King" (Grantland • Apr 2013) [36:45] "Inside the final days of the Standing Rock protest" (Vice • Feb 2017) [37:30] "What comes after Standing Rock?" (Vice • Jan 2017) [39:00] "‘Our Demand Is Simple: Stop Killing Us’" (New York Times Magazine • May 2015) [41:30] "Charlottesville: Race and Terror" (Vice News • Aug 2017) [42:45] "Impeached!" (David Gilbert • Vice News • Dec 2016) [48:00] "Now You See Me" (Vice News • Mar 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Gessner is the author of ten books. His latest is Ultimate Glory: Frisbee, Obsession, and My Wild Youth. “The ambition got in my way at first. Because I wanted my stuff to be great, and it froze me up. But later on it was really helpful. I’m startled by the way people don’t, you know, admit [they care] … it seems unlikely people wouldn’t want to be immortal.” Thanks to Casper, Squarespace, and MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @BDsCocktailHour davidgessner.com Gessner on Longform "Not Fuzz" (David Mark Simpson • Atavist • Jul 2017) [01:00] Ultimate Glory: Frisbee, Obsession, and My Wild Youth (Riverhead Books • 2017) [02:00] readthissummer.com [04:45] "No Disc-Respect" (Outside • Jun 2017) [08:15] A Wild, Rank Place: One Year on Cape Cod (University Press of New England • 1997) [08:30] Under the Devil’s Thumb (University of Arizona Press • 1999) [11:00] Sick of Nature (University Press of New England • 2004) [11:00] "Ultimate Glory" (Bill and Dave’s Cocktail Hour • Jan 2012) [11:15] Bill and Dave’s Cocktail Hour [13:00] All the Wild That Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West (W.W. Norton & Company • 2016) [22:30] Return of the Osprey: A Season of Flight and Wonder (Ballantine • 2002) [26:15] "Meet the Keatles" (Oxford American • Feb 2014) [29:00] "After Hurricane Sandy, One Man Tries to Stop the Reconstruction" (Outside • Oct 2013) [29:30] The Prophet of Dry Hill: Lessons From a Life in Nature (Beacon Press • 2005) [30:15] "Those Who Write, Teach" (New York Times Magazine • Sep 2008) [37:45] Nina de Gramont’s Website [43:30] "This Is Your Brain on Nature" (National Geographic • Jan 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Matthew Klam is a journalist and fiction writer. His new novel is Who Is Rich?. “The New Yorker had hyped me with this “20 Under 40” thing…and when the tenth anniversary of that list [came], somebody wrote an article about it. And they found everybody in it, and I was the only one who hadn’t done anything since then, according to them. And the article, it was a little paragraph or two, it ended with ‘poor Matthew Klam.’” Thanks to MailChimp, Casper, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @MatthewKlam matthewklam.com [01:00] Sam the Cat: and Other Stories (Vintage • 2001) [01:00] Who Is Rich?: A Novel (Random House • 2017) [01:45] Doree Shafrir on Longform [01:45] Elif Batuman on Longform [02:00] readthissummer.com [03:00] "Matthew Klam’s New Book Is Only 17 Years Overdue" (Taffy Brodesser-Akner • Vulture • Jul 2017) [03:15] "Experiencing Ecstasy" (New York Times Magazine • Jan 2001) [04:15] "Sam the Cat" (New Yorker • May 1993) [sub req’d] [05:30] "What Do You Think of Ted Williams Now?" (Richard Ben Cramer • Esquire • Jun 1986) [06:15] "Missing the Boom; Some of My Best Friends Are Rich" (New York Times Magazine • Jun 1998) [06:30] Klam’s Story About His Hasidic Cousins in McSweeney’s Issue 33 [06:45] "The Pilot’s Tale" (Harper’s • Feb 1999) [sub req’d] [09:00] "Big Event Brent" (GQ) [pdf] [11:15] "Riding the Mo In the Lime Green Glow" (New York Times Magazine • Nov 1999) [14:15] "How to Get Over an Aversion to Whiskey" (Wall Street Journal • Jun 2017) [sub req’d] [15:45] Quantico [19:30] "Freak" (Devin Friedman • GQ • Feb 2010) [20:30] "The Man in the Irony Mask" (GQ • Mar 2008) [28:00] A Tragic Honesty: The Life and Work of Richard Yates (Blake Bailey • Picador • 2004) [28:00] Cheever: A Life (Blake Bailey • Vintage • 2010) [29:00] "Adina, Astrid, Chipewee, Jasmine" (New Yorker • May 2006) [30:00] Look at Me: A Novel (Jennifer Egan • Anchor • 2002) [30:15] The Invisible Circus (Jennifer Egan • Anchor • 1995) [31:30] "20 Under 40" (New Yorker • 1999) [31:30] "The New Yorker’s 20 Under 40 Fiction Special Will Save Fiction Again" (Mark Asch • The L Magazine • May 2010) [38:45] Andy Ward on the Longform Podcast [43:15] The Things They Carried (Tim O’Brien • Mariner Books • 2009) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Maggie Haberman covers the White House for The New York Times. “If I start thinking about it, then I’m not going to be able to just keep doing my job. I'm being as honest as I can — I try not to think about it. If you’re flying a plane and you think about the fact that if the plane blows up in midair you’re gonna die, do you feel like you can really focus as well? So, I’m not thinking about [the stakes]. This is just my job. This is what we do. Ask me another question.” Thanks to MailChimp, Bombfell, Babbel, and HelloFresh for sponsoring this week's episode. @maggieNYT Haberman on Longform [01:45] "Manafort Talks With Senate Investigators About Meeting With Russians" (with Eileen Sullivan and Adam Goldman • New York Times • Jul 2017) [02:15] Haberman’s New York Times archive [02:30] Haberman’s New York Post archive [02:30] Haberman’s New York Daily News archive [03:15] readthissummer.com [03:45] "Paladino assails Cuomo’s parenting" (Politico • Oct 2010) [09:00] Harold and the Purple Crayon (Crockett Johnson • Harper Collins • 2015) [12:45] "Inside Donald Trump’s Last Stand: An Anxious Nominee Seeks Assurance" (with Ashley Parker, Jeremy W. Peters, and Michael Barbaro • New York Times • Nov 2016) [22:45] Private Parts [25:00] "Excerpts From the Times’s Interview With Trump" (with Peter Baker and Michael S. Schmidt • New York Times • Jul 2017) [35:15] "Trump and Staff Rethink Tactics After Stumbles" (with Glenn Thrush • New York Times • Feb 2017) [38:45] Steve Dunleavy’s New York Post archive [47:45] Broadcast News Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steven Levy writes for Wired, where he is the editor of Backchannel. “It’s about people. Travis Kalanick’s foibles aren’t because he’s a technology executive. It’s because he’s Travis Kalanick. That’s the way he is. There is a certain strain in Silicon Valley, which rewards totally driven people, but that is humanity. And advanced technology is no guarantee—and as a matter of fact I don’t think it’ll do anything—from stopping ill-intentioned people from doing ill-intentioned things.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audm, Rover, and Babbel for sponsoring this week's episode. @StevenLevy stevenlevy.com Levy on Longform [03:00] readthissummer.com [04:00] "Hackers in Paradise" (Rolling Stone • Apr 1982) [05:45] Whole Earth Catalog [06:15] Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution (O’Reilly Media • 2010) [11:00] "The Birth of the Mac: Rolling Stone’s 1984 Feature on Steve Jobs and his Whiz Kids" (Rolling Stone • Oct 2011) [19:00] "Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook’s Future, From Virtual Reality to Anonymity" (Wired • Apr 2014) [20:45] Levy's MTV Cover Story (Rolling Stone • 1983) [not online] [23:30] Levy's Bruce Springsteen Story (Philadelphia Magazine • 1975) [not online] [28:00] New York Diaries: 1609 to 2009 (Teresa Carpenter • Modern Library • 2012) [30:30] "Reviewing the First Iphone In a Hype Typhoon" (Wired • Jun 2017) [31:30] "From the Archives: The Original Review of ‘Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band’" (Richard Goldstein • New York Times • Jun 2017) [32:00] Without a Doubt (Marcia Clark with Teresa Carpenter • Graymalkin Media • 2016) [37:45] Levy’s Archive at Newsweek [39:45] In the Plex: How Google Thinks, Works, and Shapes Our Lives (Simon & Schuster • 2011) [42:30] Backchannel [48:45] "One More Thing: Inside Apple’s Insanely Great (or Just Insane) New Mothership" (Wired • May 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mark Bowden is a journalist and the author of 13 books, including Black Hawk Down and his latest, Hue 1968: A Turning Point of the American War in Vietnam. “My goal is never to condemn someone that I’m writing about. It’s always to understand them. And that, to me, is far more interesting than passing judgment on them. I want you to read about Che Thi Mung, an 18-year-old village girl, who was selling hats on corners in Hue in the daytime and going home and sharpening spikes to go into booby traps to try and kill American soldiers and ARVN soldiers in the evening. I want to understand why she would do that, why she would be so motivated to do that. And I think I did.” Thanks to MailChimp, LeVar Burton Reads, Babbel, and HelloFresh for sponsoring this week's episode. @markbowdenwrite markbowdenbooks.com Bowden on Longform [01:00] Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War (Grove Press • 2010) [01:00] Bowden’s Black Hawk Down Series at The Inquirer [01:15] Bowden’s Archive at The Atlantic [01:15] Hue 1968: A Turning Point of the American War in Vietnam (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2017) [02:00] Startup: A Novel (Doree Shafrir • Little, Brown and Company • 2017) [02:00] readthissummer.com [09:30] "Hell Sucks" (Michael Herr • Esquire • Aug 1968) [10:15] The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test (Tom Wolfe • Picador • 2008) [10:30] Thy Neighbor’s Wife (Gay Talese • Harper Perennial • 2009) [11:15] Bowden’s Inquirer stories reprinted in Road Work: Among Tyrants, Beasts, Heroes, and Rogues (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2004) [24:15] "Tales of the Tyrant" (Atlantic • May 2002) [28:30] Worm: The First Digital World War (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2011) [29:15] The Finish: The Killing of Osama bin Laden (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2012) [35:00] Erin Lee Carr on the Longform Podcast [35:45] "The Enemy Within" (Atlantic • Jun 2010) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian Reed, a senior producer at This American Life, is the host of S-Town. “It’s a story about the remarkableness of what could be called an unremarkable life.” Thanks to MailChimp, Babbel, and Squarespace for sponsoring this episode. @brihreed Reed's This American Life archive [28:45] Cops See It Differently, Part One (This American Life • Feb 2015) [28:45] Wake Up Now (This American Life • Dec 2014) [44:30] Stoner (John Wiliams • Viking • 1965) [45:15] Photo of the S-Town planning room [46:00] The Known World: A Novel (Edward P. Jones • HarperCollins • 2003) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ginger Thompson is a Pulitzer Prize-winning senior reporter at ProPublica. Her most recent article is "How the U.S. Triggered a Massacre in Mexico." “How many times have I written the phrase ‘a town that was controlled by drug traffickers?' I had no idea what that really meant. What does it mean to live in a town that’s controlled by drug traffickers? And how does it get that way? One of the things I was hoping that we could do by having the people who actually lived through that explain it to us was that—to bring you close to that and say, ‘No, here’s what that means.’” Thanks to MailChimp, Casper, and Outside the Box for sponsoring this week's episode. @gingerthomp1 Thompson on Longform [01:30] "How the U.S. Triggered a Massacre in Mexico" (ProPublica / National Geographic • Jun 2017) [01:45] Thompson’s Archive at The New York Times [01:45] "Trafficking In Terror" (New Yorker • Dec 2015) [02:30] readthissummer.com [02:45] Patient H.M.: A Story of Memory, Madness, and Family Secrets (Luke Dittrich • Random House • 2016) [02:45] Luke Dittrich on the Longform Podcast [05:15] Voices from Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster (Svetlana Alexievich • Picador • 2006) [34:30] "A Drug Family in the Winner’s Circle" (New York Times • Jun 2012) [38:45] "Nafta to Open Foodgates, Engulfing Rural Mexico" (New York Times • Dec 2002) [38:45] Thompson’s “Fatal secretes in Honduras” series (with Gary Cohn • Baltimore Sun • 1995) [43:15] "Calderón Wins Narrow Victory in Mexico Election" (with James C. McKinley Jr. • New York Times • Jul 2006) [45:30] "Mexico City Journal; The Rich, Famous and Aghast: A Peep-Show Book" (New York Times • Sep 2002) [46:30] "Richest Mexican talks equity— Business International Herald Tribune" (New York Times • Jun 2006) [52:15] "Reaping What Was Sown On the Old Plantation; A Landowner Tells Her Family’s Truth. A Park Ranger Wants a Broader Truth." (New York Times • Jun 2000) [55:30] "‘There’s No Real Fight Against Drugs’" (Atlantic • Jul 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Patricia Lockwood is a poet and essayist. Her new book is Priestdaddy: A Memoir. “[Prose writing is] strange to me as a poet. I’m like, ‘Well I guess I’ll tell you just what happened then.’ But the humor has to be there as well. Because in my family household…the absurdity or the surrealism that we have is in reaction to the craziness of the household. So something like your underwear-clad father with his hand in a vat of pickles, sitting in a room full of $10,000 guitars and telling you that he can’t afford to send you to college—that’s bad. That’s a sad scene. But it’s also totally a lunatic scene. It’s, just the very fact of it, all these accoutrements, all the elements of the scene—they are funny.” Thanks to Audible and MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @TriciaLockwood Lockwood on Longform [00:00] Stoner [01:00] Priestdaddy: A Memoir (Riverhead Books • 2017) [02:00] readthissummer.com [02:30] How To Be a Person in the World (Heather Havrilesky • Doubleday • 2016) [02:30] Heather Havrilesky on the Longform Podcast [09:15] Balloon Pop Outlaw Black (Octopus Books • 2012) [10:00] Wave Books [10:00] Octopus Books [10:15] Black Ocean [11:30] "The Dark Mystery of Emily Dickinson’s ‘Master’ Letters" (Nicholas Rombes • The Rumpus • May 2011) [12:00] Motherland Fatherland Homelandsexuals (Penguin Poets • 2014) [20:15] Lockwood’s Jonathan Franzen Tweet [20:45] Lockwood’s Paris Review Tweet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John Grisham is the author of 38 books, including his latest novel, Camino Island. “A Time to Kill didn’t sell. It just didn’t sell. There was never any talk of going back for a second printing. No talk of paper back. No foreign deal. It was a flop. And I told my wife, I said, ‘Look, I’m gonna do it one more time. I’m gonna write one more book…hopefully something more commercial, more accessible, more popular. If this doesn’t work, forget this career. Forget this hobby. I’m just gonna be a lawyer and get on with it.” Thanks to Casper, Squarespace, and MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @JohnGrisham jgrisham.com [00:30] The Firm (Dell • 2009) [00:30] The Pelican Brief: A Novel (Dell • 2010) [00:30] The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town (Dell • 2012) [01:30] Wesley Lowery on the Longform Podcast [01:30] Heather Havrilesky on the Longform Podcast [01:30] Hua Hsu on the Longform Podcast [01:45] Luke Dittrich on the Longform Podcast [01:45] Krista Tippett on the Longform Podcast [02:15] readthissummer.com [08:00] A Time to Kill: A Novel (Dell • 2009) [15:15] The Great Gatsby (F. Scott Fitzgerald • Scribner • 2004) [15:15] The Grapes of Wrath (John Steinbeck • Penguin Classics • 2006) [19:45] The Firm [23:00] Camino Island: A Novel (Doubleday • 2017) [28:45] "The Law-School Scam" (Paul Campos • Atlantic • Sep 2014) [36:45] Book Tour with John Grisham [49:30] Stoner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Erin Lee Carr is a documentary filmmaker and writer. Her new film is Mommy Dead and Dearest. “I feel like I’ve always had the story down—that’s not been really difficult for me. So the difficult thing, I think, for me, has always been access. Can I get the access? Can I withstand the pressure? You know, there’s been so many times where I wasn’t being paid to do the job, and I had to wait on the access. And it’s not for the faint of heart. You know, I could have spent a year and a half of my life doing [Mommy Dead and Dearest] and I could’ve not gotten the access to Gypsy, and it kind of would’ve been a wash.” Thanks to MailChimp, Kindle, Squarespace, V by Viacom, and HelloFresh for sponsoring this week's episode. @erinleecarr erinleecarr.com [02:00] Mommy Dead and Dearest [02:00] Thought Crimes: The Case of the Cannibal Cop [02:30] "Dee Dee Wanted Her Daughter To Be Sick, Gypsy Wanted Her Mom To Be Murdered" (Michelle Dean • BuzzFeed • Aug 2016) [04:30] Carr’s Vice archive [05:15] Girls [05:45] Capturing the Friedmans [11:15] "First Animal to Survive in Space" (Motherboard • Sep 2012) [12:45] David Carr’s Archive at The New York Times [13:45] "David Carr: The News Diet of a Media Omnivore" (Fresh Air • Oct 2011) [14:15] Click, Print, Gun: The Inside story of the 3D-Printed Gun Movement [25:00] Raw Deal: The Untold Story of NYPD’s “Cannibal Cop” (Gil Valle • WildBlue Press • 2017) [32:00] Nick Bilton on the Longform Podcast [32:00] American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road (Nick Bilton • Portfolio • 2017) [42:45] Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills [47:00] "Erin Lee Carr’s New True-Crime Documentary to Air on HBO (Exclusive)" (Gregg Kilday • Hollywood Reporter • Oct 2016) [50:30] "Laura Poitras, Glen Greenwald and Edward Snowden with David Carr" (Times Talks • Feb 2015) [52:15] "Still Rendering" (Medium • Feb 2016) [55:00] The Night of the Gun: A reporter investigates the darkest story of his life. His own. (David Carr • Simon & Schuster • 2009) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ariel Levy, a New Yorker staff writer, is the author of The Rules Do Not Apply. “I don’t believe in ‘would this’ and ‘would that.’ There’s no ‘everything happens for a reason.’ Everything happens, and then you just fucking deal. I mean we could play that game with everything, but time only moves in one direction. That’s a bad game. You shouldn’t play that game—you’ll break your own heart.” Thanks to MailChimp, Kindle, V by Viacom, and 2U for sponsoring this week's episode. @avlskies ariellevy.net Levy on Longform [00:45] The Front Row [01:00] Outside the Box [02:15] Levy’s New Yorker archive [02:30] Ariel Levy on the Longform Podcast [02:30] The Rules Do Not Apply: A Memoir (Random House • 2017) [13:00] Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture (Free Press • 2005) [20:00] Fan Club [24:15] "Thanksgiving in Mongolia" (New Yorker • Nov 2013) [25:30] "Trial by Twitter" (New Yorker • Aug 2013) [25:30] "The Perfect Wife" (New Yorker • Sep 2013) [25:45] "Breaking the Waves" (New Yorker • Feb 2014) [25:45] "Living-Room Leopards" (New Yorker • May 2013) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jeffrey Gettleman is the East Africa Bureau Chief for the New York Times and the author of Love, Africa: A Memoir of Romance, War, and Survival. “I’m not an adventure-seeking adrenaline junky. I like to explore new worlds, but I’m not one of these chain-smoking, hard-drinking, partying types that just wants thrills all the time. And unfortunately that’s an aspect of the job. And as I get older and I’ve been through more and more, the question gets louder. Which is: Why do you keep doing this? Because you feel like you only have so many points, and eventually the points are going to run out.” Thanks to MailChimp, V by Viacom, 2U, and Kindle for sponsoring this week's episode. @gettleman Gettleman on Longform [01:15] Gettleman’s Archive at The New York Times [01:30] Gettleman’s Pulitzer Prize-winning work [01:30] Love, Africa: A Memoir of Romance, War, and Survival (Harper • 2017) [08:30] Tampa Bay Times (Previously St. Petersburg Times) [11:30] Fan Club [12:30] The Front Row [18:00] "Into the Heart of Falluja" (New York Times Magazine • May 2004) [22:00] "The World’s Worst War" (New York Times • Dec 2012) [30:00] "Rape Epidemic Raises Trauma of Congo War" (New York Times • Oct 2007) [30:30] "Elephants Dying in Epic Frenzy as Ivory Fuels Wars and Profits" (New York Times • Sep 2012) [35:45] Heart of Darkness (Joseph Conrad • Dover Publications • 1990) [38:45] "Ominous Signs, Then a Cruel Attack" (New York Times • Sep 2013) [45:45] "Jeffrey Gettleman’s World of War" (Jack Shafer • Slate • Mar 2009) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rafe Bartholomew is the former features editor at Grantland and the author of Two and Two: McSorley’s, My Dad, and Me. “I never saw it as something negative because [my dad] comes out, to me, at the end, extremely heroic. … He becomes this dad who I idolized as a bartender, a guy who would hang out with me and make me laugh, a guy I just adored almost every step of the way. I mean, of course, everybody gets into fights. But to me it was always so obvious that he had overcome the problems in his childhood, he’d overcome his own drinking problem, he’d done all these things, and by the time I was older, he’d even found a way to get back into writing and self-publish a couple of books of poems about the bar. So he’s sort of managed to tick off all those goals, just maybe not on the same schedule, maybe not in the most normal way.” Thanks to MailChimp, V by Viacom, and 2U for sponsoring this week's episode. @Rafeboogs rafebartholomew.com Bartholomew on Longform Pacific Rims: Beermen Ballin’ in Flip-Flops and the Philippines’ Unlikely Love Affair with Basketball (Berkley • 2011) Bartholomew’s Archive at Grantland Two and Two: McSorley’s, My Dad, and Me (Little, Brown & Company • 2017) "The Old House at Home" (Joseph Mitchell • New Yorker • Apr 1940) [3:45] Bartholomew’s Archive at Harper’s [22:00] The Last Shot: City Streets, Basketball Dreams (Darcy Frey • Mariner Books • 2013) [22:00] Swee’ Pea: The Story of Lloyd Daniels and Other Playground Basketball Legends (John Valenti • Atria • 2016) [29:00] Coverage of Grantland at Deadspin [29:30] "The Legend of the Iron Five" (Chuck Klosterman • Grantland • Jun 2011) [24:11] "Press X for Beer Bottle: On L.A. Noire" (Tom Bissell • Grantland • Jun 2011) [37:10] "Mayweather-Pacquiao: A Sad Morning in Manila" (Grantland • May 2015) [38:30] "One Hundred Years of Arm Bars" (David Samuels • Grantland • Aug 2015) [44:30] "Death and Tradition at the U.K. Grand National" (Sam Knight • Grantland • Apr 2013) [45:00] "Dropped" (Jason Fagone • Grantland • Mar 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nick Bilton is a special correspondent for Vanity Fair and the author of American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road. “I’ve been covering tech for a long, long time. And the thing I’ve always tried to do is cover the people of the tech culture, not the tech itself. … I've always been interested in the good and bad side of technology. A lot of times the problem in Silicon Valley is that people come up with a good idea that’s supposed to do a good thing—you know, to change the world and make it a better place. And it ends up inevitably having a recourse that they don’t imagine.” Thanks to MailChimp, Viacom, and Audible for sponsoring this week's episode. @nickbilton nickbilton.com Bilton on Longform [00:00] Ponzi Supernova [01:15] American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road (Portfolio • 2017) [01:45] Bilton’s New York Times archive [01:45] Bilton’s Vanity Fair archive [01:45] Hatching Twitter: A True Story of Money, Power, Friendship, and Betrayal (Portfolio • 2014) [07:30] "The Underground Website Where You Can Buy Any Drug Imaginable" (Adrian Chen • Gawker • Jun 2011) [07:30] Adrian Chen’s first appearance on the Longform Podcast [07:30] Adrian Chen’s second appearance on the Longform Podcast [09:15] NYC Resistor [11:45] "Uber’s C.E.O. Plays With Fire" (Mike Isaac • New York Times • Apr 2017) [16:00] Fan Club [21:30] Bits, New York Times technology blog [21:45] Gizmodo [23:00] Bill Keller’s New York Times archive [23:00] John Markoff’s New York Times archive [25:45] "The iEconomy" series [27:30] "How the Kindle Moved From BlackBerry to iPad" (New York Times • Sep 2011) [29:45] "Disruptions: Fliers Must Turn Off Devices, but It’s Not Clear Why" (New York Times • Nov 2011) [50:45] "Meet the Dread Pirate Roberts, The Man Behind Booming Black Market Drug Website Silk Road" (Andy Greenberg • Forbes • Sep 2013) [50:45] "Silk Road Creator Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison" (Andy Greenberg • Wired • May 2015) [50:45] "The Rise & Fall of Silk Road Part I" (Joshuah Bearman • Wired • Apr 2015) [50:45] "The Rise & Fall of Silk Road Part II" (Joshuah Bearman • Wired • May 2015) [51:00] "Exclusive: How Elizabeth Holmes’s House of Cards Came Tumbling Down" (Vanity Fair • Oct 2016) [52:00] "‘It’s An Honor’" (Jimmy Breslin • New York Herald Tribune • Nov 1963) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Samin Nosrat is a food writer, educator, and chef. Her new book is Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking. “I kind of couldn’t exist as just a cook or a writer. I kind of need to be both. Because they fulfill these two totally different parts of myself and my brain. Cooking is really social, it’s very physical, and also you don’t have any time to become attached to your product. You hand it off and somebody eats it, and literally tomorrow it’s shit. … Whereas with writing, it’s the exact opposite. It’s super solitary. It’s super cerebral. And you have all the time in the world to get attached to your thing and freak out about it.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, Away, and Masters of Scale for sponsoring this week's episode. @CiaoSamin ciaosamin.com [01:45] Chez Panisse [02:00] Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking (Simon & Schuster • 2017) [03:30] Pop-Up Magazine [27:45] Cooked: A Natural History of Transformation (Michael Pollan • Penguin Books • 2014) [30:00] Nosrat’s Archive at Edible [30:45] "Out of the Kitchen, Onto the Couch" (Michael Pollan • New York Times Magazine • Jul 2009) [34:00] Wendy MacNaughton on the Longform Podcast [37:45] An Everlasting Meal: Cooking with Economy and Grace (Tamar Adler • Scribner • 2012) [39:15] Levels of the Game (John McPhee • Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 1979) [52:15] Outliers: The Story of Success (Malcolm Gladwell • Back Bay Books • 2011) [54:30] Golden Boy Pizza [55:30] "Cookbook Author Samin Nosrat Celebrates with Champagne and Babybels" (Sierra Tishgart • Grub Street • Apr 2017) [57:00] Salt Sugar Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us (Michael Moss • Random House • 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sarah Menkedick is a freelance writer and the founder of Vela. Her upcoming book is Homing Instincts: Early Motherhood on a Midwestern Farm. “I’d been rejected a ton of times—I had that 400-page thing that never became a book. So there were plenty of epic rejections that felt catastrophic. And I’d sort of arrived at this point where I was like: I’m living in my parents' cabin, and I’m pregnant, so whatever. Fuck it. I’m gonna write whatever I want to write.” Thanks to MailChimp and Blue Apron for sponsoring this week's episode. @sarahmenkedick sarahmenkedick.com Menkedick on Longform [00:15] The Writing Program at the University of Pittsburgh [01:00] Aaron and the Donut Dude [01:15] Homing Instincts: Early Motherhood on a Midwestern Farm (Pantheon • 2017) [01:15] Vela [02:15] "Why don’t people take writing about motherhood seriously? Because women do it" (Los Angeles Times • Apr 2017) [07:45] "A Wilderness of Waiting" (Vela • Feb 2015) [09:15] "Good Pilgrims" (Harper’s • Jul 2014) [17:30] "Living on the Hyphen" (Oxford American • Oct 2014) [19:30] "Sarah Menkedick’s Four Books on Early Motherhood" (Vela • Aug 2015) [22:30] "Written by Women" (Vela • Sep 2011) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Grann is a staff writer at The New Yorker. His new book is Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI. “The more stories I reported over time, the more I just realized there are parts of the story I can’t always get to. You know, unless this is a reality show and there’s 18 cameras in every room, and people [talk] before they sleep, and maybe you have some mind-bug in their brain for their unconscious, there are just parts you’re just not gonna know. You get as close as you can. And so the struggle to me is to get as close as I can, to peel it back as close as I can, but understanding that there will be elements, there will be pieces, that will remain lingering doubts.” Thanks to Stamps.com, Squarespace, and MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @DavidGrann davidgrann.com Grann on Longform [00:45] David Grann on the Longform Podcast [01:45] Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI (Doubleday • 2017) [14:15] Stoner [22:15] Scrivener [37:00] "The Yankee Comandante" (New Yorker • May 2012) [38:45] The Hill [43:15] "Trial By Fire" (New Yorker • Sep 2009) [1:03:45] Absalom, Absalom! (William Faulkner • Vintage • 1990) [1:03:45] "How William Faulkner Tackled Race—and Freed the South From Itself" (John Jeremiah Sullivan • New York Times Magazine • June 2012) [1:04:15] Austerlitz (W.G. Sebald • Modern Library • 2011) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices