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Alex Kotlowitz is a journalist whose work has appeared in print, radio, and film. He’s the author of three books, including There Are No Children Here: The Story of Two Boys Growing Up in the Other America. “The truth of the matter is, given what we do, we’re always outsiders. If it’s not by race or class, it’s by gender, religion, politics. It’s just the nature of being a nonfiction writer—going into communities that, at some level, feel unfamiliar. If you’re writing about stuff you already know about, where’s the joy in that? Where’s the sense of discovery? Why bother?” Thanks to MailChimp and MeUndies for sponsoring this week's episode. alexkotlowitz.com Kotlowitz on Longform [00:00] "Episode 03: Nick Denton, founder of Gawker Media" (Stoner • Apr 2017) [01:30] There Are No Children Here: The Story of Two Boys Growing Up in the Other America (First Anchor Books • 1992) [01:45] The Other Side of the River: A Story of Two Towns, a Death, and America’s Dilemma (First Anchor Books • 1999) [01:45] The Interrupters [02:30] "The Trenchcoat Robbers" (New Yorker • Jul 2002) [05:00] Common Ground: A Turbulent Decade in the Lives of Three American Families (J. Anthony Lukas • First Vintage Books • 1986) [14:45] "487: Harper High School, Part One" (This American Life • Feb 2013) [14:45] "488: Harper High School, Part Two" (This American Life • Feb 2013) [24:45] "179: Cicero" (This American Life • Mar 2001) [31:30] In the Lake of the Woods (Tim O’Brien • First Mariner Books • 2006) [35:30] Never a City So Real: A Walk in Chicago (Crown Journeys • 2004) [45:15] Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith (Jon Krakauer • First Anchor Books • 2004) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian Reed, a senior producer at This American Life, is the host of S-Town. “It’s a story about the remarkableness of what could be called an unremarkable life.” Thanks to MailChimp, Casper, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @brihreed Reed's This American Life archive [30:00] "Cops See It Differently" (This American Life • Feb 2015) [30:00] "Wake Up Now" (This American Life • Dec 2014) [45:45] Stoner (John Wiliams • Viking • 1965) [49:30] Photo of the S-Town planning room [47:15] The Known World: A Novel (Edward P. Jones • HarperCollins • 2003) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hrishikesh Hirway is the host of Song Exploder. “I love the idea that somebody would listen to an episode [of Song Exploder] and then the feeling that they would have afterwards is, ‘Now I want to make something.’ That’s the best possible reaction. Whether it’s music or not, just that idea: ‘I want to make something.’ Because that is the thing that I love most, getting that feeling.” Thanks to MailChimp and MeUndies for sponsoring this week's episode. @HrishiHirway [00:00] Stoner [01:45] BBC’s Classic Albums [02:30] "Episode 80: Bojack Horseman" (Song Exploder • Aug 2016) [02:30] "Episode 95: Moonlight" (Song Exploder • Jan 2017) [09:15] Genius [09:30] Who Sampled [18:00] 99% Invisible [19:15] "Episode 42: U2" (Song Exploder • Jun 2015) [22:30] The One AM Radio [23:00] Moors [26:30] City Soundtracks [28:15] The West Wing Weekly [33:30] "Episode 111: Louis CK Part 1" (WTF with Marc Maron • Oct 2010) [38:45] "Episode 84: Peter Bjorn and John" (Song Exploder • Sep 2016) [44:45] Francis and the Lights Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sheelah Kolhatkar is a staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of Black Edge: Inside Information, Dirty Money, and the Quest to Bring Down the Most Wanted Man on Wall Street. “Suddenly the financial crisis happened and all this stuff that had been hidden from view came out into the open. It was like, ‘Oh, this was actually all kind of a big façade.’ And there was all this fraud and stealing and manipulation and corruption, and all these other things going on underneath the whole shiny rock star surface. And that really also demonstrated to people how connected business stories, or anything to do with money, are to everything else going on. I mean, really almost everything that happens in our world, if you trace it back to its source, it’s money at the root of it.” Thanks to MailChimp, Blue Apron, and Stamps.com for sponsoring this week's episode. @sheelahk sheelahkolhatkar.com Kolhatkar on Longform [00:15] SAIC Application [00:30] Pregnant Pause [01:15] Missing Richard Simmons [04:00] Black Edge: Inside Information, Dirty Money, and the Quest to Bring Down the Most Wanted Man on Wall Street (Random House • 2017) [07:30] Kolhatkar’s Observer archive [09:15] "Suzy Wetlaufer Preparing To Be 'Neutron Jackie'" (Observer • Apr 2004) [15:00] "Hedge Funds Are for Suckers" (Bloomberg • Jul 2013) [17:45] Kolhatkar’s Time archive [18:00] "Poor Ruth" (New York • Jul 2009) [26:30] "When the Feds Went After the Hedge-Fund Legend Steven A. Cohen" (New Yorker • Jan 2017) [27:00] "Cheating, Incorporated" (Bloomberg • Feb 2011) [29:15] "The $40-Million Elbow" (Nick Paumgarten • New Yorker • Oct 2006) [35:15] "On the Trail of SAC Capital’s Steven Cohen" (Bloomberg • Jan 2013) [53:45] To Catch a Trader [58:15] "Trump’s Wolves of Wall Street" (New Yorker • Dec 2016) [59:45] "Juno Takes on Uber" (New Yorker • Oct 2016) [59:45] "Financiers Fight Over the American Dream" (New Yorker • Mar 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Baker is a crime reporter at The New York Times, where he writes the series “Murder in the 4-0.” “When there’s a murder in a public housing high rise, there’s a body on the floor. Jessica White in a playground, on a hot summer night. Her children saw it. Her body fell by a bench by a slide. You look up and there’s hundreds of windows, representing potentially thousands of eyes, looking down on that like a fishbowl. …They’re seeing it through the window and they can see that there’s a scarcity of response. And then they measure that against the police shooting that happened in February when there were three helicopters in the air and spotlights shining down on them all night and hundreds of officers with heavy armor going door to door to door to find out who shot a police officer. They can see the difference between a civilian death and an officer death.” Thanks to MailChimp and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @bakeal [02:15] Murder in the 4-0 [04:15] Baker’s Archive at New York Daily News [08:15] "The myth of the killer-cop ‘epidemic’" (Michael Walsh • New York Post • Jan 2016) [09:15] The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness (Michelle Alexander • The New Press • 2012) [11:15] "A Bronx Precinct Where Killings Persist" (with Benjamin Mueller • New York Times • Feb 2016) [14:15] "From the archives: TWA Flight 800, flying with fear" (Newsday Staff Writers • Newsday • Jul 1996) [15:45] "A Bullet Misses Its Mark, and Then Takes a Fatal Detour" (with James C. McKinley Jr. • New York Times • Jan 2017) [21:15] "A Mother Is Shot Dead on a Playground, and a Sea of Witnesses Goes Silent" (with Benjamin Mueller • New York Times • Oct 2016) [22:45] "A Familiar Pattern in a Spouse’s Final Act" (with Benjamin Mueller & Ashley Southall • New York Times • Apr 2016) [22:45] "Quest for a New Life Ends in a Tangle of Gang Ties" (with James C. McKinley Jr. • New York Times • Aug 2016) [30:30] "Authorities Move to Charge 16 Officers After Widespread Ticket-Fixing" (with William K. Rashbaum • New York Times • Oct 2011) [36:15] Rukmini Callimachi on the Longform Podcast [37:30] Good Cop, Bad Cop: Joseph Trimboli vs Michael Dowd and the NY Police Department (Mike Mcalary • Pocket Books • 1996) [40:45] "A Cloak of Silence After a South Bronx Killing" (with Benjamin Mueller • New York Times • Mar 2016) [43:15] "Grandmother’s Killing Lays Bare a Dilemma in Child Welfare Work" (with James C. McKinley Jr. & Ashley Southall • New York Times • Nov 2016) [45:45] Random Family: Love, Drugs, Trouble, and Coming of Age in the Bronx (Adrian Nicole LeBlanc • Scribner • 2003) [47:30] "William Bratton, New York’s Influential Police Commissioner, Is Stepping Down" (with J. David Goodman • New York Times • Aug 2016) [47:30] "Ahmad Khan Rahami Is Arrested in Manhattan and New Jersey Bombings" (with Marc Santora, William K. Rashbaum, & Adam Goldman • New York Times • Sep 2016) [50:45] Seymour Hersh on the Longform Podcast [56:45] "Cops’ Favorite Target Thug, but Just Who Was the Guy?" (Michael Wilson • New York Times • Feb 2005) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Caity Weaver is a staff writer at GQ. “I always try to remember: you don’t have to tell people what you’re not good at. You don’t have to remind them of what you’re not doing well or what your weak points are. Don’t apologize for things immediately. Always give a little less information than they need. Don’t overshare.” Thanks to MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @caityweaver caity.info Weaver on Longform [02:30] "Kim Kardashian West Has a Few Things to Get Off Her Chest" (GQ • Jun 2016) [11:45] Weaver's Hairpin archive [13:00] Weaver's Gawker archive [13:00] A.J. Daulerio on the Longform Podcast [15:30] "New Jersey Children Forced to Shun Sad, Friendless Bear" (Gawker• Jun 2013) [16:30] "Justin Bieber Would Like to Reintroduce Himself" (GQ • Feb 2016) [18:00] "Larry David and Julia Louis-Dreyfus Are Furious" (GQ • Nov 2015) [25:15] "Gawker Slammed for Story Outing Condé Nast Exec" (Jessica Roy • New York • Jul 2015) [25:45] "Caity Weaver Takes the Gawker Buyout" (Benjamin Mullin • Poynter • Jul 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Matthew Cole is an investigative reporter at The Intercept, where he recently published “The Crimes of Seal Team 6.” “I’ve gotten very polite and very impolite versions of ‘go fuck yourself.’ I used to have a little sheet of paper where I wrote down those responses just as the vernacular that was given to me: ‘You’re a shitty reporter, and I don’t talk to shitty reporters.’ You know, I’ve had some very polite ones, [but] I’ve had people threaten me with their dogs. Some of it is absolutely cold.” Thanks to Squarespace, Blue Apron, and MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @matthewacole matthewacole.com Cole on Longform [02:45] "The Crimes of Seal Team 6" (The Intercept • Jan 2017) [18:45] "SEAL Team 6: A Secret History of Quiet Killings and Blurred Lines" (Mark Mazzetti, Nicholas Kulish, Christopher Drew, Serge F. Kovaleski, Sean D. Naylor, and John Ismay • New York Times • Jun 2015) [21:00] "NBC Suspends Brian Williams for Six Months Over Iraq Helicopter Story" (Rory Carroll • Guardian • Feb 2015) [27:45] "How the NSA Plans to Infect ‘Millions’ of Computers With Malware" (Ryan Gallagher and Glenn Greenwald • The Intercept • Mar 2014) [35:15] "Adam Bruckner Was a Soccer Journeyman Searching For a Home. Along the Way, He Wound Up Solving a Murder" (ESPN Magazine • Jul 2012) [36:15] "Between Heaven and Hell" (ESPN Magazine • Jun 2006) [38:00] "Killing ourselves in Afghanistan" (Salon • Mar 2008) [39:45] "The Spy Who Said Too Much" (Steve Coll • New Yorker • Apr 2013) [45:30] "Report: Two CIA Black Site Prisons in Lithuania" (ABC News • Dec 2009) [47:45] "US Diplomat SMeared by ‘Sex Tape’" (ABC News • Sep 2009) [53:00] "Who Shot Bin Laden? A Tale of Two SEALs" (With Anna R. Schecter • NBC News • Nov 2014) [57:30] "‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle Distorted His Military Record, Documents Show" (Intercept • May 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alexis C. Madrigal is an editor-at-large for Fusion, where he’s producing the upcoming podcast, Containers. “Sometimes you think like, 'Man the media business is the worst. This is so hard.' When you spend time with all these other business people, you probably are going to say, ‘Capitalism is the worst. This is hard.’ Competition that’s linked to global things is so hard because global companies are locked in this incredible efficiency battle that just drives all of the slack out of the system. Like media, there’s no slack left, and I don’t know where things go after that.” Thanks to MailChimp, Stamps.com, and Casper for sponsoring this week's episode. @alexismadrigal alexismadrigal.com Madrigal on Longform [00:00] Longform Podcast Survey [03:00] Madrigal’s Archive at The Atlantic [03:45] Consumer Conspicuous [05:00] Ross Andersen on the Longform Podcast [05:30] "First-Gen T. Rex Was No Bigger Than You" (Wired • Sep 2009) [06:45] Powering the Dream: The History and Promise of Green Technology (Da Capo Press • 2011) [12:45] Nuzzel [15:30] "BuzzFeed editor-in-chief in year-end memo: ‘Fake news will become more sophisticated’ than ever in 2017" (Oliver Darcy • Business Insider • Dec 2016) [19:00] "The alpha dog that wouldn’t hunt: How Trump’s ludicrous ‘alpha male’ act is destroying him" (Matthew Rozsa • Salon • Oct 2016) [24:00] "How Google Builds Its Maps—and What It Means for the Future of Everything" (Atlantic • Sep 2012) [27:45] "A Fleet of One" (John McPhee • New Yorker • Feb 2003) [28:15] Uncommon Carriers (John McPhee • Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2006) [29:15] Madrigal’s Archive at Fusion [29:15] Real Future [37:45] Slacker [46:00] "American Aqueduct: The Great California Water Saga" (Atlantic • Feb 2014) [48:45] Madrigal’s Archive at NPR Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ana Marie Cox is the senior political correspondent for MTV News, conducts the “Talk” interviews in The New York Times Magazine, and founded Wonkette. “When people are sending me hate mail or threats, one defense I have against that is ‘you don’t know me.’ You know? That wasn’t something I always was able to say. As I’ve become a stronger person, it’s been easier for me to be like, ‘The person they’re attacking, it’s not me.’” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Blue Apron for sponsoring this week's episode. @anamariecox anamariecox.com [00:30] Missing Richard Simmons [04:15] Cox’s Archive at Suck.com [10:00] "The Uses of Enchantment" (Suck • Jul 1997) [11:00] Cox’s Archive at Mother Jones [12:15] The Chicago Maroon [12:45] "Waterworld" (Suck • Sep 1996) [21:45] "Joe Buck Knows Why You Hate Him" (New York Times Magazine • Feb 2017) [25:30] Cox’s Archive at New York Times Magazine [25:30] Cox’s Archive at GQ [29:15] "What Bush Wants You to Do" (Wonkette • Apr 2004) [30:45] "The Lost Washingtonienne" (Wonkette • May 2004) [31:30] "Washingtonienne Speaks!! Wonkette Exclusive!! Must Credit Wonkette!! The Washingtonienne Interview!!" (Wonkette • May 2004) [33:00] "Face Value" (The Baffler • 2012) [36:15] "Wonkette Founder Cox: ‘If Hillary Wins, It’ll Be Because Black and Brown People Saved Us’" (YouTube • Sep 2016) [36:30] "Watch MTV News’ Ana Marie Cox’s Emotional Reaction to Latest Trump Sexual Assault Allegations" (Media Matters • Oct 2016) [39:45] "Fans Tweet About Mental Illness to Honor Carrie Fisher" (Ryan Burleson & Tara Parker-Pope • New York Times • Dec 2016) [42:15] "Exclusive: Ana Marie Cox Tells Breitbart News Sunday About Her Coming to Christ" (Robert Wilde • Breitbart • Mar 2015) [42:30] "Why I’m Coming Out as a Christian" (Ana Marie Cox • Daily Beast • Feb 2015) [48:00] Cox’s Archive at The Guardian [50:45] Roads & Kingdoms Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brooke Gladstone is the host of On the Media. “I’ve learned so much about how easy it is to redefine reality in this era of billions of filter bubbles. How easy it is to cast doubt on what is undeniably true. And I think that that’s what frightens me the most. I actually think that’s what frightens most people the most. How do we make sure that we all live in the same world? Or do we?” Thanks to MailChimp, Texture, and School of the Art Institute of Chicago for sponsoring this week's episode. @OTMBrooke On the Media [01:00] Love and Ruin (W.W. Norton & Company • 2016) [01:15] Gladstone on the Longform Podcast [05:15] Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History [07:45] "Will the Supreme Court Stand Up to Trump?" (Linda Greenhouse • New York Times • Feb 2017) [13:00] "January Surprise" (On the Media • Jan 2017) [20:00] "Objectivity: What Is It Good For?" (On the Media • Feb 2017) [29:00] "How Trump Might Save the Media He So Despises" (On the Media • Jan 2017) [29:15] "Winter Is Coming: Prospects for the American Press Under Trump" (Jay Rosen • PressThink • Dec 2016) [40:00] "Busted: America’s Poverty Myths" (On the Media • 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ezra Edelman is the director of O.J.: Made in America. “When I say what I learned is that America is even more fucked up than I had previously thought, it’s that—the superficiality of it. How we are willingly seduced by these shiny people and these shiny things. And, again, when I looked at O.J.’s trajectory, that was an operating principle.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, Casper, and Secrets, Crimes, & Audiotape for sponsoring this week's episode. @ezraedelman [00:45] "Vanish" (Evan Ratliff • Wired • Nov 2009) [00:45] O.J.: Made in America [02:30] Magic & Bird: A Courtship of Rivals [10:30] The Straight Story [20:30] Tamara Rosenburg on IMDB [38:15] Caroline Waterlow on IMDB [39:15] Nina Krstic on IMDB [46:30] "What Football Does to the Brain" (Mike Orcutt • MIT Technology Review • Jan 2016) [52:15] "Most Black People Now Think O.J. Was Guilty" (Carl Bialik • FiveThirtyEight • Jun 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alexey Kovalev is a Moscow-based journalist and the author of the recent article, “A Message to My Doomed Colleagues in the American Media." “It’s really disheartening to see how little it takes for people to start believing in something that directly contradicts the empirical facts that they are directly confronting. The Russian TV channel tells you that the pill is red, but the pill in front of you is blue. It completely alters the perception of reality. You don’t know what’s real anymore.” Thanks to MailChimp and Penn State World Campus. @Alexey_Kovalev noodleremover.news [00:15] "A message to my doomed colleagues in the American media" (Medium • Jan 2017) [02:45] RIA Novosti [06:00] RT [07:30] Kovalev’s Archive at The Guardian [11:45] "RT, Information War, and Billions of Views: Where do the numbers come from?" (Translated by Aric Toler • Stop Fake • Jan 2017) [12:00] Adrian Chen on the Longform Podcast [12:00] "The Troll Hunters" (Adrian Chen • MIT Technology Review • Dec 2014) [16:30] The Intelligence Report Assessing Russian Activities in the US Election [17:00] The Onion [21:15] "From Headline to Photograph, a Fake News Masterpiece" (Scott Shane • New York Times • Jan 2017) [28:30] Kovalev’s Archive at The Moscow Times [29:00] Kovalev’s Archive at Open Democracy [29:00] "How Fake Stories Reported in Russia’s News Media Regularly Fool Everyone" (Translated by Kevin Rothrock • Global Voices • Sep 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jeff Sharlet writes about politics and religion for Esquire, GQ, New York Times Magazine, and more. “I like the stories with difficult people. I like the stories about people who are dismissed as monsters. I hate the term ‘monster.’ ‘Monster’ is a safe term for us, right? Trump’s a monster. Great, we don’t need to wrestle with, ‘Uh oh, he’s not a monster. He’s in this human family with us.’ I’m not normalizing him. I’m acknowledging the fact. Now, what’s wrong with us? If Trump is human, what’s wrong with you?” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Blue Apron for sponsoring this week's episode. @JeffSharlet jeffsharlet.blogspot.com Sharlet on Longform [00:15] "David Fahrenthold: Investigating Trump" (Katie Couric • Katie Couric Show • Dec 2016) [00:30] "Edward Snowden: The Whistleblower" (Katie Couric • Katie Couric Show • Dec 2016) [07:00] Decât o Revistă [08:00] "Bullies in the Schoolyard" (Tablet • Dec 2016) [08:30] Killing the Buddha [08:45] Go Tell It on the Mountain (James Baldwin • Vintage • 2013) [09:00] The Apostle [10:30] Wisconsin Death Trip (Michael Lesy • University of New Mexico Press • 2000) [11:15] Pakn Treger [12:30] The Chronicle of Higher Education [13:30] Killing the Buddha: A Heretic’s Bible (with Peter Manseau • Free Press • 2004) [18:45] "Jesus plus nothing" (Harper’s • Mar 2003) [sub req’d] [18:45] The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power (Harper Perennial • 2009) [22:45] "Straight Man’s Burden" (Harper’s • Sep 2010) [27:30] "Ashcroft’s Ascent" (Jeffrey Toobin • New Yorker • Apr 2002) [28:00] John Ashcroft Sings “Let the Eagle Soar” (YouTube) [30:00] "The Runaway General" (Michael Hastings • Rolling Stone • Jun 2010) [30:45] "James Webb’s Never-Ending War" (Rolling Stone • Jun 2007) [31:45] "The Ministry of Fun" (Esquire • Aug 2016) [37:00] "Are You Man Enough for the Men’s Rights Movement?" (GQ • Feb 2014) [42:30] "Dubliners" (Virginia Quarterly Review • 2016) [45:30] C Street: The Fundamentalist Threat to American Democracy (Little, Brown and Company • 2010) [46:30] "Donald Trump, American Preacher" (New York Times Magazine • Apr 2016) [51:45] "A&E Shelves a K.K.K. Documentary Series Over Cash Payments" (New York Times • Dec 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jace Clayton is a music writer and musician who records as DJ /rupture. His book is Uproot: Travels in 21st-Century Music and Digital Culture. “What does it mean to be young and have some sound inside your head? Or to be in a scene that you want to broadcast to the world? That notion of the world is changing, who you’re broadcasting to is changing, all these different things—the tool sets. But there’s this very fundamental joy of music making. I was like, ‘Ok. Let’s find flashpoints where interesting things are happening and can be unpacked that shed different little spotlights on it, but do fall into this wider view of how we articulate what’s thrilling to be alive right now.’” Thanks to MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @djrupture jaceclayton.com [04:15] Uproot: Travels in 21st-Century Music and Digital Culture (Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2016) [05:00] Wax Poetic [05:30] "Slow Burn" (The Fader • Jul 2008) [06:00] "Past Masters" (The National • Mar 2009) [15:30] "Pitch Perfect" (Frieze • May 2009) [23:30] Mudd Up! [29:15] "Julius Eastman Memorial Dinner" (The Music Gallery • Oct 2014) [29:30] Julius Eastman’s Femenine [35:00] The Mudd Up! Radio Archive [37:45] Caroline Shaw [40:00] "Cairo: Something New" (The Fader • Oct 2012) [41:15] "Tribal Guarachero: Mexican Teens & Aztec History" (The Fader • Oct 2010) [42:15] Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game (Michael Lewis • W.W. Norton & Company • 2004) [44:45] Tigerbeat6 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Terry Gross is the host and co-executive producer of Fresh Air. “Part of my philosophy of life is that you have to live with a certain amount of delusion. And part of the delusion I live with is that maybe, from experience, I’m getting a little bit better. But then the other part of me, the more overpowering part of me, is the pessimistic part that says, ‘It’s going to be downhill from here.’ I try not to judge myself too much because I’m so self-judgmental that I don’t want to over-judge and get into too much of ‘Am I better than I was yesterday, or not?’” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Blue Apron for sponsoring this week's episode. Gross on Longform Fresh Air [26:30] "Hillary Clinton: The Fresh Air Interview" (Fresh Air • Jun 2014) [29:30] "Among the Hillary Haters" (Hanna Rosin • The Atlantic • Mar 2015) [43:53] "Our Mission and Vision" (NPR • 1971) [52:45] "Fresh Air 2: 2 Fresh 2 Furious" (YouTube) [56:16] All I Did Was Ask: Conversations with Writers, Actors, Musicians, and Artists (Hachette Books • 2005) [58:30] "’Fresh Air’ Host Terry Gross: I Always Think Listeners Are Disappointed When They Meet Me" (Jim Romenesko • Jim Romenesko Blog • May 2015) [59:15] "Terry Gross and the Art of Opening Up" (Susan Burton • New York Times Magazine • Oct 2015) [1:03:45] Morning Edition [1:04:00] WTF with Marc Maron [1:04:00] The Longest Shortest Time [1:04:15] "Episode #1: Peter Sagal Opens Up" (The Hilarious World of Depression • Dec 2016) [1:04:45] The Pub [1:05:00] This American Life [1:05:00] On the Media [1:05:00] How to Be Amazing with Michael Ian Black [1:13:00] "Maurice Sendak: On Life, Death and Children’s Lit" (Fresh Air • Sep 2011) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ta-Nehisi Coates is the author of Between the World and Me and a national correspondent for The Atlantic. His latest cover story is “My President Was Black." “[People] have come to see me as somebody with answers, but I don’t actually have answers. I’ve never had answers. The questions are the enthralling thing for me. Not necessarily at the end of the thing getting somewhere that’s complete—it’s the asking and repeated asking. I don’t know how that happened, but I felt like after a while it got to the point where I was seen as having unique answers, and I just didn’t. I really, really didn’t.” Thanks to MailChimp, Casper, and Audible for sponsoring this week's episode. @tanehisicoates Coates on Longform [00:15] The 100th Episode of the Longform Podcast [00:45] "My President Was Black" (Atlantic • Dec 2016) [01:15] Longform’s Best of 2016 List [01:45] Shane Bauer on the Longform Podcast [02:00] "Prince of the Forty Thieves" (David Gauvey Herbert • Atavist • Dec 2016) [03:15] Coates’s First Appearance on the Longform Podcast [03:15] Coates’s Second Appearance on the Longform Podcast [03:15] Coates’s Third Appearance on the Longform Podcast [04:30] Black Panther: A Nation Under Our Feet (Marvel • 2016) [09:30] Between the World and Me (Spiegel & Grau • 2015) [09:45] "The Case for Reparations" (Atlantic • Jun 2014) [13:45] Coates’s Archive at Washington City Paper [16:45] "On Homecomings" (Atlantic • May 2016) [18:45] "The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration" (Atlantic • Oct 2015) [20:45] "Fear of a Black President" (Atlantic • Sep 2012) [21:15] Jonathan Chait’s Archive at New York [30:30] "The Cosby Show" (Atlantic • Nov 2014) [35:15] Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (Barack Obama • Three Rivers Press • 2004) [35:30] "‘The Filter…Is Powerful’: Obama on Race, Media, and What It Took to Win" (Atlantic • Dec 2016) [43:45] "Obama’s Full Remarks at Howard University Commencement Ceremony" (Politico Staff • Politico • May 2016) [50:30] Nate Silver on the Longform Podcast [51:30] "Other People’s Pathologies" (Atlantic • Mar 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hua Hsu writes for The New Yorker and is the author of A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific. “I remember, as a kid, my dad telling me that when he moved to the United States he subscribed to The New Yorker, and then he canceled it after a month because he had no idea what any of it was about. You know, at the time, it certainly wasn’t a magazine for a Chinese immigrant fresh off the boat—or off the plane, rather—in the early 70s. And I always think about that. I always think, ‘I want my dad to understand even though he’s not that interested in Dr.Dre.’ I still think, ‘I want him to be able to glean something from this.’” Thanks to MailChimp, Texture, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @huahsu huascene.com Hsu on Longform [03:45] A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific (Harvard University Press • 2016) [04:00] The Good Earth (Pearl S. Buck • Washington Square Press • 1931) [06:00] "Where’s the Beef?" (Slate • Jul 2007) [07:15] And China Has Hands (H.T. Tsiang • Ironweed Press • 2003) [09:00] "On the Road with Hannibal Buress, Comedy’s Most Respected Slacker" (The Fader • Apr 2015) [14:45] "The Remarkable Forgotten Life of H. T. Tsiang" (New Yorker • Jul 2016) [14:45] "Endless Endless: Kraftwek at MoMA" (Paris Review • May 2012) [26:15] "A God Dream" (New Yorker • Feb 2016) [26:45] Hsu’s Archive at Grantland [26:45] "All Hail the Chairmen: Jonathan Olivares’s ‘Taxonomy of Office Chairs’" (LA Review of Books • Apr 2012) [28:45] Pitchfork [28:45] Stereogum [29:45] "Reality Hunger" (New Yorker • Aug 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Carl Zimmer, a columnist for the New York Times and a national correspondent at STAT, writes about science. “[Criticism] doesn’t change the truth. You know? Global warming is still happening. Vaccines still work. Evolution is still true. No matter what someone on Twitter or someone in an administration is going to say, it’s still true. So, we science writers have to still be letting people know about what science has discovered, what we with our minds have discovered about the world—to the best of our abilities. That’s our duty as science writers, and we can’t let these things scare us off.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @carlzimmer carlzimmer.com Zimmer on Longform [01:00] Ross Andersen on the Longform Podcast [02:45] Zimmer’s column at the New York Times [02:45] Zimmer’s books [04:00] "The Rise of the Tick" (Outside • Apr 2013) [6:40] "Sleepless in South Sudan" (Radiolab • Oct 2011) [08:15] Parasite Rex: Inside the Bizarre World of Nature’s Most Dangerous Creatures (Simon & Schuster • 2000) [08:30] "A Sleeping Storm" (Discover • Aug 1998) [25:00] "How Scientists Stalked a Lethal Superbug—With the Killer’s Own DNA" (Wired • Jan 2013) [25:30] "Game of Genomes Episode 1: Man Inside the Hard Drive" (STAT • Jul 2016) [30:00] "How Fighter Pilots Stay Sharp" (Evan Ratliff • Men’s Journal • Dec 2013) [31:15] Zimmer’s Mosaic Archive [33:00] "King of the Cosmos" (Playboy • Jan 2012) [35:00] Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey [36:15] Star Talk [38:30] "Global Warming Alters Arctic Food Chain, Scientists Say, With Unforeseeable Results" (New York Times • Nov 2016) [40:00] "Special Report: Endless Summer—Living With the Greenhouse Effect" (Andrew C. Revkin • Discover • Oct 1988) [46:45] At the Water’s Edge: Fish with Fingers, Whales with Legs, and How Life Came Ashore but Then Went Back to Sea (Touchstone • 1999) [52:30] "The Girl Who Turned to Bone" (Atlantic • Jun 2013) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Wesley Lowery is a national reporter at the Washington Post, where he worked on the Pulitzer-winning project, "Fatal Force." His new book is They Can’t Kill Us All: Ferguson, Baltimore, and a New Era in America’s Racial Justice Movement. “I think that we decided at some point that either you are a journalist or you are an activist. And I identify as a journalist, to be clear, but one of the reasons I often don’t engage in that conversation—when someone throws that back at me I kind of deflect a little bit—is that I think there’s some real fallacy in there. I think that every journalist should be an activist for transparency, for accountability—certainly amongst our government, for first amendment rights. There are things that by our nature of what we do we should be extremely activist.” Thanks to MailChimp, Harry’s, Casper, and School of the Arts Institute of Chicago for sponsoring this week's episode. @WesleyLowery [03:15] Detroit Free Press [03:15] The Plain Dealer [03:15] North Jersey [03:15] Diversity Inc. [03:15] Black Enterprise [05:00] They Can’t Kill Us All: Ferguson, Baltimore, and a New Era in America’s Racial Justice Movement (Little, Brown and Company • 2016) [05:45] "Same-sex marriage is gaining momentum, but some advocates don’t want it on the ballot in Ohio" (Washington Post • Jun 2014) [06:00] "Senate votes to restore federal funding for extended unemployment benefits" (Washington Post • Apr 2014) [06:15] "Congressional Democrats to introduce new Voting Rights Act fix" (Washington Post • Jun 2015) [07:30] "Police use tear gas on crowd in Ferguson, Mo., protesting teen’s death" (Washington Post • Aug 2014) [10:45] "The story behind that Boston Marathon photo of runners carrying a competitor toward the finish" (Washington Post • Apr 2014) [10:45] "Aaron Hernandez indicted, accused of killing two men in 2012" (Washington Post • May 2014) [13:15] O.J.: Made in America [30:00] "Fatal Force" (Washington Post • 2015) [31:30] "The DC Investigates: Is WaPo’s Wesley Lowery Black?" (Betsy Rothstein • Daily Caller • Dec 2014) [40:15] "Police: Multiple witnesses say Antonio Martin pulled gun on officer" (Washington Post • Dec 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Adam Moss is the editor of New York Magazine. “I think [change] is good for journalism—it’s what journalism is about. You can’t write about something static. News is about what is new. So there’s plenty of new right now. I’m not saying it’s good for the citizenry or anything like that, but, yeah, for journalists it’s an extremely interesting time. There’s no denying that.” Thanks to MailChimp, BarkBox, Squarespace, and Sock Fancy for sponsoring this week's episode. [03:15] "Meet the Editor: Adam Moss" (Brian Lehrer Show • Dec 2013) [07:00] "America Has Never Been So Ripe for Tyranny" (Andrew Sullivan • New York • May 2016) [20:45] Rolling Stone College Papers [32:15] "The Media Business; Lack of Ads Kills 7 Days Magazine" (Kim Foltz • New York Times • Apr 1990) [36:30] "Why isn’t this man famous?" (Simon Houpt • Globe and Mail • Jun 2001) [38:15] "The Best of Michael Pollan for The New York Times" (New York Times Magazine • Oct 2016) [38:15] Michael Lewis’s New York Times archive [38:15] Lynn Hirschberg’s New York Times archive [40:15] "Saint Hillary" (Michael Kelly • New York Times Magazine • May 1993) [45:15] "A City Built of Clay" (Tom Wolfe • New York • Jul 2008) [48:30] Vulture [48:45] The Cut [52:15] Frank Rich’s New York archive [52:15] Andrew Sullivan’s New York archive [57:45] The Strategist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kyle Chayka is a freelance writer who writes for Businessweek, The Verge, Racked, The New Yorker, and more. “I love that idea of form and content being the same. I want to write about lifestyle in a lifestyle magazine. I want to critique technology in the form of technology, and kind of have the piece be this infiltrating force that explodes from within or whatever. You want something that gets into the space, and sneaks in, and then blows up.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Texture for sponsoring this week's episode. @chaykak kchayka.tumblr.com Chayka on Longform [02:00] Study Hall [04:30] Chayka’s Tufts Daily Archive [06:00] "Welcome to Airspace" (The Verge • Aug 2016) [06:45] "The Last Lifestyle Magazine" (Racked • Mar 2016) [17:15] "Reign, Supreme" (Racked • Jul 2016) [19:00] David Grann on the Longform Podcast [20:00] Peter Schjeldahl’s New Yorker Archive [20:15] Jerry Saltz’s New York Archive [20:15] Roberta Smith’s New York Times Archive [20:45] "Living on a Prayer" (Curbed • Apr 2016) [24:15] "Facebook’s Zuckerberg Says Fake News and Echo Chambers Didn’t Drive Election" (Sarah Frier • Bloomberg • Nov 2016) [30:45] "The Library of Last Resort" (n+1 • Jul 2016) [36:30] "Unfollow" (Adrian Chen • New Yorker • Nov 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Susan Casey is the former editor of O and the author of three New York Times bestselling books. Her latest is Voices in the Ocean: A Journey into the Wild and Haunting World of Dolphins. “The funny thing is people often say, ‘You must be fearless.’ I’m always afraid of whatever it is. But for whatever reason—I think it’s partly naïvety, partly just overwhelming curiosity—I am also not going to let fear stop me from doing things even if I feel it. Unless it’s that pure …you do have to listen to your body sometimes if it tells you not to do something that could result in you really never coming up from falling on that 70-foot wave.” Thanks to MailChimp, HelloFresh, and Squarespace, and for sponsoring this week's episode. susancasey.com [01:00] The Devil’s Teeth: A True Story of Obsession and Survival Among America’s Great White Sharks (Henry Holt & Company • 2006) [01:00] The Wave: In Pursuit of the Rogues, Freaks, and Giants of the Ocean (First Anchor Books • 2011) [01:00] Voices in the Ocean: A Journey into the Wild and Haunting World of Dolphins (First Anchor Books • 2016) [01:15] O Magazine [01:15] Time Inc. [07:15] "Into Thin Air" (Jon Krakauer • Outside • Sep 1996) [sub req'd] [07:30] "The Post-Communist Wolf" (David Quammen • Outside • Dec 2000) [07:30] Hampton Sides’s Archive at Outside [08:15] "Life’s Swell" (Susan Orlean • Outside • Aug 2002) [11:30] "Vanish" (Evan Ratliff • Wired • Dec 2009) [20:30] BBC Wildlife Special—Great White Shark: The Silent Stalker [26:00] "The Jaws Paradigm" (Sports Illustrated • Aug 2006) [26:00] Casey’s Archive at Fortune [26:30] Force of Nature: Mind, Body, Soul, and, of course, Surfing (Laird Hamilton • Rodale Books • 2008) [27:15] "The World’s Healthiest 75-Year-Old Man" (Esquire • May 2008) [28:00] "The Overstimulated Girl: A Better Head of Hair" (Esquire • Oct 2007) [42:30] Erik Larson on the Longform Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Wesley Morris is a critic at large for The New York Times, a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine, and the co-host of Still Processing. His latest article is "Last Taboo: Why Pop Culture Just Can’t Deal With Black Male Sexuality." “You learn a lot of things about your sexuality at an early age. You know, I learned that your penis is a problem for white people, that you can’t be too openly sexual in general because that could get you in trouble because someone could misconstrue what you’re doing, and, in my case, I also knew I was gay. So I had to deal with, ‘Ok so my dick is a problem in general, and I’m not even interested in putting my penis where it’s supposed to go. This is going to be bad.’” Thanks to Audible, Casper, Squarespace, and MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @Wesley_Morris Morris on Longform [00:45] Wesley Morris on the Longform Podcast [01:15] Still Processing [01:45] "Last Taboo" (New York Times Magazine • Oct 2016) [03:15] Playing Dead: A Journey Through the World of Death Fraud (Elizabeth Greenwood • Simon & Schuster • 2016) [08:45] "Dumber Than Your Average Bear" (Grantland • Jun 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Doreen St. Félix is a writer at MTV News. “It feels like there are images of black utopias that are arising. And you can’t—even if you’re not as superstitious as me—you can’t possibly think that that doesn’t have to do with the decline, the final, to me, last gasp of white supremacy. It really does feel like we’re approaching that, [but] that approach might be a thousand years.” Thanks to MailChimp, Texture, Harry’s, and HelloFresh, for sponsoring this week's episode. @dstfelix [7:45] "'Empire’ Season 2, Episode 8: Hakeem, No Lyon" (New York Times • Nov 2015) [10:30] "Jennifer Lawrence: 'Why Do I Make Less Than My Male Co-Stars?'" (Jennifer Lawrence • Lenny • Oct 2015) [11:30] "Out of Print: The Fultz Quadruplets" (Lenny • Feb 2016) [16:15] "The Prosperity Gospel of Rihanna" (Pitchfork • Apr 2015) [18:30] "On Carefree Black Boys" (MTV News • Sep 2016) [22:00] "In Solange’s Room" (MTV News • Oct 2016) [23:30] "The Ecstasy of Frank Ocean" (MTV News • Aug 2016) [24:30] "A Love Profane" (MTV News • Apr 2016) [26:00] The Birth of a Nation [30:00] Atlanta [30:00] Moonlight [31:00] Queen Sugar [35:30] "An Honest Conversation with Solange Knowles" (Anupa Mistry • Fader • Sep 2016) [36:00] "Filmmaker Letter: Moonlight" (Barry Jenkins • Landmark Theatres • Oct 2016) [40:30] "The Gospel According to Kirk Franklin" (MTV News • Oct 2016) [40:45] "Ratology" (New Yorker • Nov 2015) [48:00] "The only thing ‘uncivilised’ about Ray Kelly’s talk at Brown was inviting him" (Guardian • Oct 2013) [54:00] "North West and Blue Ivy Carter Have Never ‘Played Together,’ Says Kanye West" (Josh Duboff • Vanity Fair • Oct 2016) [1:00:00] Speed Dial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emily Witt is a freelance writer and the author of Future Sex. “I think I had always thought that—maybe this is coming from a WASPy, protestant background—if I presented myself as overtly sexual in any way, it would be a huge turnoff. That they would see me as a certain type of person. They wouldn’t have respect for me. And I thought this both professionally—I thought maybe writing this book was going to be really bad for my career, that nobody would take me seriously anymore—and also that nobody would want to date me if I was too honest. In both counts the opposite happened.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Wunder Capital for sponsoring this week's episode. @embot emilywitt.net Witt on Longform [02:45] Future Sex (Farrar, Straus & Giroux • 2016) [03:00] "Online Dating Diary" (London Review of Books • Oct 2012) [03:15] Witt’s Archive at The Observer [05:30] Witt’s Archive at Miami New Times [05:45] "Cinema é Luxo" (n+1 • Oct 2009) [sub req’d] [06:15] "Miami Party Boom" (n+1 • Mar 2010) [sub req’d] [06:30] Gus Garcia-Roberts on Longform [09:30] Thy Neighbor’s Wife (Gay Talese • Harper Perennial • 2009) [10:00] "An Evening in the Nude with Gay Talese" (Aaron Latham • New York • Jul 1973) [11:15] "That Room in Cambridge" (n+1 • Mar 2011) [sub req’d] [19:15] "What Do You Desire?" (n+1 • Mar 2013) [38:45] "The Trip Planners" (New Yorker • Nov 2015) [48:00] How Music Got Free: A Story of Obsession and Invention (Stephen Witt • Penguin Books • 2015) [48:15] Minnesota Monthly [50:45] "Burning Man Diary" (London Review of Books • Jul 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Krista Tippett is the host of On Being and the author of Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. “Good journalists in newsrooms hold themselves to primitive standards when they’re covering religious ideas and people. They’re sloppy and simplistic in a way that they would never be with a political or economic person or idea. I mean they get facts wrong. They generalize. Because they don’t take it seriously, and they don’t know how to take it seriously.” Thanks to MailChimp, Winc, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @kristatippett [00:30] On Being [01:15] Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living (Penguin Press • 2016) [01:45] "MailChimp and the Un-Silicon Valley Way to Make It as a Start-Up" (Farhad Manjoo • New York Times • Oct 2016) [05:15] The Brown Daily Herald [11:30] "Mengele Casts Shadow on a Bavarian Town" (New York Times • Jun 1985) [20:00] "West Germans Protest Nuclear Missiles For 4th Day" (John Tagliabue • New York Times • Apr 1983) [38:15] The Nantucket Project [46:15] "The Poetry of Ordinary Time" (On Being • Aug 2014) [54:00] The Unedited Episode of “Randomness and Choice" (On Being • Oct 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Luke Dittrich is a contributing editor at Esquire. His new book is Patient H.M.: A Story of Memory, Madness, and Family Secrets. “As soon as I told [my mom] that I got my first book deal for this story about Patient H.M., her first words were, ‘Oh no.’ That was sort of her gut reaction to it because, I think, she knew at a certain level that I was going to be dredging up very painful stories. And I think at that point even she didn’t know the depth of the pain that some of the stories that I was going to find were going to lay out there.” Thanks to MailChimp, EA SPORTS FIFA 17, Squarespace, Wunder, and Audible for sponsoring this week's episode. Dittrich on Longform [2:15] Longform Podcast #66: Andy Ward [2:45] "The Brain That Couldn’t Remember" (New York Times Magazine • Aug 2016) [4:15] "Possessed" (Atlanta Magazine • Nov 2003) [Google Books] [4:15] "The Red Zone" (Atlanta Magazine • Jul 2004) [Google Books] [4:30] Patient H.M.: A Story of Memory, Madness, and Family Secrets (Random House • 2016) [12:00] "The Brain That Changed Everything" (Esquire • Oct 2010) [13:30] The Alexandria Quartet (Lawrence Durrell • Pocket Books • 1977) [16:00] Egypt Today [20:15] journalismjobs.com [18:15] Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil: A Savannah Story (John Berendt • Vintage Books • 1999) [19:15] "Pageants Are My Life" (Oxford American • May 2001) [sub req’d] [24:00] "H.M., an Unforgettable Amnesiac, Dies at 82" (Benedict Carey • New York Times • Dec 2008) [32:30] "A Book Examines the Curious Case of a Man Whose Memory Was Removed" (Seth Mnookin • New York Times • Aug 2016) [37:15] "Faculty at MIT and beyond respond forcefully to an article critical of Suzanne Corkin" (MIT News Office • MIT News • Aug 2016) [37:45] "Questions & Answers about ‘Patient H.M.’" (Medium • Aug 2016) [43:00] "Tonight on Dateline This Man Will Die" (Esquire • Sep 2007) [43:00] "The Prophet" (Esquire • Jul 2013) [46:30] Chris Hansen’s new “predator” project [47:00] "Esquire Article on Eben Alexander Distorts the Facts" (Robert Mays • International Association For Near Death Studies • Aug 2013) [48:45] Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon’s Journey into the Afterlife (Eben Alexander • Simon & Schuster • 2012) [50:45] "'Heavenly Father!' 'I love you all!' 'I love everyone!' 'Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus!' 'I love all of you!'" (Esquire • Sep 2011) [51:30] "Chuck Berry Goddamn!" (Esquire • Dec 2011) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A.J. Daulerio is the former editor-in-chief of Gawker. “The choices they’ve given me are take back everything that you loved about Nick [Denton], Gawker, and your job, and we’ll give you your $1,000 back or your ability to make money. You can walk away from this, but you just can’t talk about it ever again. I don’t see there’s any question for me. I definitely thought long and hard about it, and I’ve talked to a lot of people about it. It’s just not in me. Some days I absolutely wish I could say, ‘Is there a phone call I could make to make this all go away?’ Because I want my life back. That’s happened. But for the most part I just think I would regret doing that.” Thanks to MailChimp, EA SPORTS FIFA 17, School of the Arts Institute of Chicago, Casper, and Texture for sponsoring this week's episode. Daulerio on Longform [18:00] Gabriel Sherman on the Longform Podcast [24:30] "This Is Apple’s Next iPhone" (Jason Chen • Gizmodo • Apr 2010) [28:15] Leah Finnegan on the Longform Podcast [29:15] "’Brett Favre Once Sent Me Cock Shots’: Not a Love Story" (Deadspin • Aug 2010) [35:30] "Even for a Minute, Watching Hulk Hogan Have Sex in a Canopy Bed is Not Safe For Work but Watch it Anyway" (Gawker • Oct 2012) [39:30] "Did I Kill Gawker?" (Max Read • Select All • Aug 2016) [40:00] Ratter [44:00] "Gawker Editor’s Testimony Stuns Courtroom in Hulk Hogan Trial" (Nick Madigan • New York Times • Mar 2016) [49:30] Nick Denton’s statement about the Geithner story [49:30] "New Gawker will be ’20 percent nicer,’ Denton tells staff" (Peter Sterne • Politico • Jul 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julia Turner is editor-in-chief of Slate. “That’s what we’ve been focused on: trying to double down on the stuff that feels distinctive and original. Because if you spend all your time on a social platform, and a bunch of media brands are optimizing all their content for that social platform, all those media brands’ headlines say the same, all the content is pretty interchangeable. It turns media into this commodity where then what is the point of developing a media company for 20 years? You might as well take the Silicon Valley approach and just make a new one every three years for whatever that moment is.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Igloo for sponsoring this week's episode. @juliaturner [03:15] Michael Kinsley on the cover of Newsweek [06:15] Slate Plus [07:45] Turner’s Slate Archive [08:00] Other Magazines on Slate [24:00] "The Secret Language of Signs" (Slate • Mar 2010) [33:30] "In Defense of the Take" (Slate • Apr 2015) [35:30] John Herrman's "Content Wars" Series [37:00] "BuzzFeed v CNN: How One Snarky Comment Ignited a Fight for the Future of News" (Itay Hod • The Wrap • Aug 2016) [43:45] Political Gabfest [43:45] Culture Gabfest [46:30] DoubleX Gabfest [48:00] Panoply [51:00] "The State of Slate" (Slate • Jul 2014) [sub req’d] [53:00] "A Death in Yellowstone" (Jessica Grose • Slate • Apr 2012) [53:00] "What Really Happened to Phoebe Prince?" (Emily Bazelon • Slate • Jul 2010) [53:00] "The United States of Inequality" (Timothy Noah • Slate • Sep 2010) [53:00] "The Welfare Queen" (Josh Levin • Slate • Dec 2013) [53:30] "Prog Spring" (David Weigel • Slate • Aug 2012) [55:15] "Bartleby, the Scrivener" (Herman Melville, Andrew Kahn • Slate • Oct 2015) [56:15] Cover Stories on Slate [57:30] "191 Things Donald Trump Has Said and Done That Make Him Unfit to Be President" (Chris Kirk, Ian Prasad Philbrick, Gabriel Roth • Slate • Sep 2016) [58:00] "Why Slate Will Break the Traditional Information Embargo on Nov. 8." (Slate • Sep 2016) [1:00:30] Sasha Issenberg’s Slate Archive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Naomi Zeichner is editor-in-chief of The Fader. “Right now in rap there’s kind of a huge tired idea that kids are trying to kill their idols, and kids have no respect for history, and kids are making bastardized crazy music, and how dare they? I just don’t even know why we still care about this false dichotomy. Kids are coming from where they come from, they’re going where they’re going. And it’s like, do you want to try to learn about where they’re coming from and where they’re going, or do you not?” Thanks to MailChimp, Club W, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @nomizeichner Zeichner on Longform [05:00] "Zayn Malik’s Next Direction" (Duncan Cooper • The Fader • Nov 2015) [10:30] "Gucci Free" (Andrew Nosnitsky • The Fader • Jul 2016) [17:00] "America Is Brutal and Meek Mill Is a Hero" (Will Stephenson • The Fader • May 2015) [17:30] "Rae Sremmurd’s Best Life" (The Fader • Jun 2016) [25:00] Young Thug on YouTube [30:00] Flagpole [32:45] "Yo-Yo Ma, The Silk Road Ensemble—Empire State of Mind" (YouTube) [43:30] David Remnick on the Longform Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ben Taub is a contributing writer at The New Yorker. “I don’t think it’s my place to be cynical because I’ve observed some of the horrors of the Syrian War through these various materials, but it’s Syrians that are living them. It’s Syrians that are being largely ignored by the international community and by a lot of political attention on ISIS. And I think that it wouldn’t be my place to be cynical when some of them still aren’t.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @bentaub91 Taub on Longform [02:45] David Remnick on the Longform Podcast [08:45] "Was U.S. Journalist Steven Sotloff a Marked Man?" (Daily Beast • Sep 2014) [28:00] Taub on The Voice (YouTube) [33:00] "Journey to Jihad" (New Yorker • Jun 2015) [49:00] Rukmini Callimachi on the Longform Podcast (Part 1) [49:00] Rukmini Callimachi on the Longform Podcast (Part 2) [50:30] "The Shadow Doctors" (New Yorker • Jun 2016) [50:30] "The Assad Files" (New Yorker • Apr 2016) [52:00] "’They were torturing to kill’: inside Syria’s death machine" (Guardian • Oct 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sarah Schweitzer is a former feature writer for the Boston Globe. “I just am drawn, I think, to the notion that we start out as these creatures that just want love and were programmed that way—to try to find it and to make our lives whole. We are, as humans, so strong in that way. We get knocked down, and adults do some horrible things to us because adults have had horrible things done to [them]. There are some terrible cycles in this world. But there’s always this opportunity to stop that cycle. And there are people who come along who do try that in their own flawed ways.” Thanks to MailChimp and AlarmGrid for sponsoring this week's episode. @SarahSchweitzer Schweitzer on Longform [2:45] With Her [3:15] Pineapple Street Media [4:45] "The life and times of Strider Wolf" (Boston Globe • Nov 2015) [16:45] Random Family: Love, Drugs, Trouble, and Coming of Age in the Bronx (Adrian Nicole LeBlanc • Scribner • 2004) [27:45] "Only a few tackle the trying times" (St. Petersburg Times • Oct 2000) [32:45] "Chasing Bayla" (Boston Globe • Oct 2014) [38:00] "Struggling town votes to end itself" (Boston Globe • Mar 2004) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rachel Monroe is a freelance writer based in Texas. “I will totally go emotionally deep with people. If I can find a subject who is into that then it will probably be a good story. Whether that person is a victim of a crime, or a committer of a crime, or a woman who spends a lot of time on the internet looking for hoaxes, or whatever it may be—I guess I just think people are interesting. Particularly when those people have gone through some sort of extreme situation.” Thanks to MailChimp, Club W, and Igloo for sponsoring this week's episode. @rachmonroe rachel-monroe.com Monroe on Longform [00:45] "Fire Behavior" (Oxford American • Apr 2014) [01:00] Love and Ruin: Tales of Obsession, Danger, and Heartbreak from the Atavist Magazine (W.W. Norton & Company • 2016) [04:45] "From Pickup Artist to Pariah" (New York • Jan 2016) [15:45] "Evil Genius" (Pacific Standard • Sep 2015) [18:15] "Have You Ever Thought About Killing Someone?" (Matter • Apr 2015) [42:00] "Cancer Cons, Phoney Accidents and Fake Deaths: Meet the Internet Hoax Buster" (The Guardian • Feb 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

McKay Coppins is a senior political writer for Buzzfeed News and the author of The Wilderness: Deep Inside the Republican Party's Combative, Contentious, Chaotic Quest to Take Back the White House. “I am part of the problem. Not in the sense that it’s my fault Trump ran, but in the sense that I’m one of many who for his entire life have mocked him and ridiculed him. He’s a billionaire—I don’t feel any moral guilt about it. But if being I’m honest with myself that same part of me can also, when not checked, be projected onto vast swathes of people. It’s easy to have a lazy classism about the type of people who would vote for Donald Trump.” Thanks to MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @mckaycoppins McKay Coppins’ Buzzfeed Archive [2:28] "A Mormon Reporter On The Romney Bus" (Buzzfeed • Nov 2012 [10:56] No Man Knows My History (Fawn M Brodie • Vintage • 1995) [11:18] Rough Stone Rolling (Richard Lyman Bushman • Vintage • 2007) [14:20] 36 Hours On The Fake Campaign Trail With Donald Trump(Buzzfeed • Feb 2014) [25:40] The Wilderness: Deep Inside the Republican Party's Combative, Contentious, Chaotic Quest to Take Back the White House (Little, Brown • 2015) [30:05] Donald Trump’s Mormon Problem (New York Times • Jun 2016) [32:35] "Trump Campaign Rally Erupts In Chaos And Ugly Confrontation " (Buzzfeed • Dec 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Gabriel Sherman is the national affairs editor at New York and the author of the New York Times best-seller The Loudest Voice in the Room: How the Brilliant, Bombastic Roger Ailes Built Fox News—and Divided a Country. “There was a time when we got death threats at home. Some crank called and said, ‘We’re gonna come after you. You’re coming after the right, we’re gonna get you.’ That was scary because, again, you don’t know if it’s just a crank when you have right wing websites that are turning you into a target. You know, it’s one thing if they do it with a politician. They have security or handlers—I don’t have any of that.” Thanks to MailChimp and Audible for sponsoring this week's episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jon Mooallem is the author of "American Hippopotamus," a story included in Love and Ruin, the new Atavist Magazine collection. Buy your copy today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ezra Klein the editor-in-chief of Vox. “I think that if any of these big players collapse, when their obits are written, it’ll be because they did too much. I’m not saying I think any of them in particular are doing too much. But I do think, when I look around and I think, ‘What is the danger here? What is the danger for Vox?’ I think it is losing too much focus because you’re trying to do too many things.” Thanks to MailChimp, Casper, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @ezraklein Klein on Longform Vox [01:00] The Ezra Klein Show [2:00] The Weeds [2:45] Ezra Klein’s Blog [5:00] "Jesse Eisenberg on Jewish humor, writing lessons, and interrogating strangers" (The Ezra Klein Show • Jun 2016) [8:45] Videos on Vox [11:15] Wonkblog [16:00] "If you are losing faith in human nature, go out and watch a marathon" (Washington Post • Apr 2013) [21:30] Matthew Yglesias’s Blog [23:45] What It Takes: The Way to the White House (Richard Ben Cramer • Vintage Books • 1993) [25:15] Ezra Klein’s Washington Monthly Archive [26:30] Ezra Klein’s American Prospect Archive [34:15] "Top Wonkblog Columnist to Leave Washington Post" (Ravi Somaiya • New York Times • Jan 2014) [49:15] The Verge [49:15] Eater [49:15] SB Nation [49:15] Polygon [49:15] Curbed [49:15] Recode [49:15] Racked [1:00:30] Card Stacks on Vox [1:03:00] Ezra Klein’s New Yorker Archive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Malcolm Gladwell is a staff writer at The New Yorker. His new podcast is Revisionist History. “The amount of criticism you get is a constant function of the size of your audience. So if you think that, generously speaking, 80% of the people who read your work like it, that means if you sell ten books you have two enemies. And if you sell a million books you have 200,000 enemies. So be careful what you wish for. The volume of critics grows linearly with the size of your audience.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @Gladwell Gladwell.com Gladwell on Longform [00:15] Malcolm Gladwell on the Longform Podcast [00:15] Revisionist History [08:30] "Episode 01: The Lady Vanishes" (Revisionist History • Jun 2016) [08:30] "Episode 03: The Big Man Can’t Shoot" (Revisionist History • Jun 2016) [08:30] "Episode 02: Saigon, 1965" (Revisionist History • Jun 2016) [10:30] "Hulk Hogan v. Gawker: A Guide to the Trial for the Perplexed" (The New York Times • Mar 2016) [19:30] "Episode 06: My Little Hundred Million" (Revisionist History • Jul 2016) [23:45] "Malcolm Gladwell just went nuts on a Wall Street billionaire’s $400 million donation to Harvard" (Business Insider • Jun 2015) [28:45] Gladwell on Audible [31:45] "Episode 05: Food Fight" (Revisionist History • Jul 2016) [32:30] "Episode 04: Carlos Doesn’t Remember" (Revisionist History • Jul 2016) [32:45] Nikole Hannah-Jones on the Longform Podcast [37:45] "Thresholds of Violence" (New Yorker • Oct 2015) [38:30] "Threshold Models of Collective Behavior" (American Journal of Sociology • May 1978) [43:30] The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ellis Jones is the editor-in-chief of VICE Magazine. “I’m just not an edgy person. You know what I mean? I think I am a nice person. I think VICE Magazine reflects the qualities that I want to have or think that I have or that my team has. The magazine would be terrible if I tried to make edgy content ... people would just see right through it. It wouldn’t be good. Thanks to MailChimp and EveryLibrary for sponsoring this week's episode. @ellisjones [00:15] "RNC 2016" (Justin Peters • Atavist Magazine • Jul 2016) [6:45] Balls Deep (VICELAND • 2016) [15:15] Motherboard [17:45] "Inside the Unregulated Chinese Hospitals That Make Men Impotent" (R.W. McMorrow • VICE Magazine • May 2016) [21:00] VICE (HBO • 2016) [21:00] VICE News [21:15] Dos & Don’ts Archive at VICE [22:00] "Is Vice Getting Nice?" (Carrie Battan • New York • Apr 2015) [25:45] The Prison Issue (VICE Magazine • 2015) [26:15] "How the Killing of a Trans Filipina Woman Ignited an International Incident" (Meredith Talusan • VICE Magazine • Feb 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Remnick is the editor of The New Yorker. “I think it’s important — not just for me, but for the readers — that this thing exists at the highest possible level in 2016, in 2017, and on. That there’s a continuity to it. I know, because I’m not entirely stupid, that these institutions, no matter how good they are, all institutions are innately fragile. Innately fragile.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, EveryLibrary, and Igloo for sponsoring this week's episode. Remnick on Longform [2:00] This week's New Yorker cover [5:45] "Cover Story: Bert and Ernie’s ‘Moment of Joy’" (Françoise Mouly, Mina Kaneko • New Yorker • Jun 2013) [9:00] "David Remnick Looks Back on Tough Decisions as ‘The New Yorker’ Turns 90" (Fresh Air • Feb 2015) [11:15] "Going the Distance" (New Yorker • Jan 2014) [15:00] The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama (Vintage Books • 2010) [15:15] "Soul Survivor" (New Yorker • Apr 2016) [17:15] The New Yorker Radio Hour [25:00] "Sending Smoke Signals to Our Former Editor in Chief" (Justin Cook • The Smoke Signal • Apr 2015) [27:45] I Married a Communist: American Trilogy (Philip Roth • Houghton Mifflin Company • 1994) [29:45] Lenin’s Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire (Vintage Books • 1994) [30:00] "The Struggle for Memory" (John Lloyd • The New York Times • May 1993) [43:15] "Beyond the Soviet Abyss" (Washington Post • Mar 1991) [48:30] "Journey to Jihad" (Ben Taub • New Yorker • Jun 2015) [50:00] Wesley Morris on the Longform Podcast [51:45] King of the World: Muhammad Ali and the Rise of an American Hero (Vintage Books • 1998) [53:15] The 40s: The Story of a Decade (New Yorker, Henry Finder • Random House • 2014) [53:15] The 50s: The Story of a Decade (New Yorker, Henry Finder • Random House • 2015) [53:15] The 60s: The Story of a Decade (New Yorker, Henry Finder • Random House • 2016) [55:00] "The Crackin’, Shakin’, Breakin’ Sounds" (Nat Hentoff • New Yorker • Oct 1964) [55:40] "Letter From a Region in My Mind" (James Baldwin • New Yorker • Nov 1962) [56:00] The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 (Lawrence Wright • Vintage Books • 2007) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Christian Miller, senior investigative reporter at ProPublica, and Ken Armstrong, staff writer at The Marshall Project, co-wrote the Pulitzer-winning article, “An Unbelievable Story of Rape.” “I won’t forget this: when T. and I talked on the phone and agreed that we were going to work on [“An Unbelievable Story of Rape”] together, T. created a Google Drive site, and we decided we’d both dump all our documents in it. And I remember seeing all the records that T. had gathered in Colorado, and then I dumped all the records that I had gathered in Washington, and it was like each of us had half of a phenomenal story. And in one day, by dumping our notes into a common file, we suddenly had a whole story.” Thanks to MailChimp, Squarespace, and Trunk Club for sponsoring this week's episode. @txtianmiller Miller on Longform @bykenarmstrong bykenarmstrong.com Armstrong on Longform ProPublica The Marshall Project [:30] "An Unbelievable Story of Rape" (ProPublica, The Marshall Project • Dec 2015) [05:30] Joe Sexton on the Longform Podcast [08:30] "Upon Further Review: Inside the Police Failure to Stop Darren Sharper’s Rape Spree" (T. Christian Miller, Ryan Gabrielson • ProPublica, New Orleans Advocate, Sports Illustrated • Apr 2015) [16:45] "581: Anatomy of Doubt" (This American Life • Feb 2016) [50:00] Firestone and the Warlord (Frontline, ProPublica • 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jack Hitt contributes to Harper’s, The New York Times Magazine, and This American Life. “I’ve always lived more or less unemployed in these markets, and happily so. I think being unemployed keeps you a little more sharp in terms of looking for stories. It never gets any easier. That motivation and that desperation, whatever you want to call that, is still very much behind many of the conversations I have all day long trying to find those threads, those strings, that are going to pull together and turn into something.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @JackHitt Hitt on Longform [1:15] Episode #157: Margo Jefferson [1:30] Episode #129: Rukmini Callimachi [1:30] Episode #156: Renata Adler [3:15] "This Is Your Brain on God" (Wired • Nov 1999) [3:45] "61: Fiasco!" (This American Life • Apr 1997) [4:00] Hitt's This American Life Archive [4:30] "323: The Super" (This American Life • Jan 2007) [6:15] "The Billion-Dollar Shack" (New York Times Magazine • Dec 2000) [6:30] "Slumlord" (The Moth • Apr 2006) [25:30] "The $19,000 press pass: A former journalism school dean asks, is it work it?" (Carolyn Lewis • Washington Monthly • 1986) [32:00] The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence (Victor Marchetti & John D. Marks • Alfred A. Knopf • 1974) [37:00] "What Did Noah Do With the Manure?" (Washington Monthly • Feb 1987) [pdf] [38:00] "Terminal Delinquents" (with Paul Tough • Esquire • Dec 1990) [41:30] "Toxic Dreams" (Harper’s • Jul 1995) [sub req’d] [46:30] White Noise (Don DeLillo • Penguin Books • 1984) [55:30] "15: Dawn" (This American Life • Feb 1996) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kathryn Schulz is a staff writer for The New Yorker. "The Really Big One," her article about the rupturing of the Cascadia fault line, won the 2016 Pulitzer Prize. “I can tell you in absolute sincerity: I didn't realize I was writing a scary story. Obviously I know the earthquake is going to be terrifying, and that our lack of preparedness is genuinely really scary. But, as I think often happens as a reporter, you toggle between professional happiness, which is sometimes, frankly, even professional glee—you’re just so thrilled you’re getting what you’re getting—and then the sort of more human and humane response, which comes every time you really set down your pen and think about what it is you’re actually reporting about.” Thanks to MailChimp and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @kathrynschulz Schulz on Longform [04:15] Schulz’s book criticism for New York [07:45] Grist [08:15] "The Really Big One" (New Yorker • Jul 2015) [29:15] "Citizen Khan" (New Yorker • Jun 2016) [33:15] Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error (Ecco • 2010) [35:30] "On being wrong" (TED • Mar 2011) [38:45] "Group Think" (New York • Mar 2011) [45:30] "How to Stay Safe When the Big One Comes" (New Yorker • Jul 2015) [55:45] Dwight Garner’s Archive at The New York Times Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shane Bauer, a senior reporter for Mother Jones, spent four months working undercover as a guard in a private prison. “The thing that I grappled with the most afterward was a feeling of shame about who I was as a guard and some of the things that I had done. Sending people to solitary confinement is hard to come to terms with even though, in that situation, I don't know what else I could have done. ... I had to do what I could to keep myself safe.” Thanks to MailChimp for sponsoring this week's episode. @shane_bauer shanebauer.net Bauer on Longform [7:00] ABC News v. Food Lion [7:45] Newjack: Guarding Sing-Sing (Ted Conover • Vintage • 2000) [19:30] "Solitary in Iran Nearly Broke Me. Then I Went Inside America's Prisons." (Mother Jones • Oct 2012) [46:30] "The Man Inside" (Reveal • June 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Frank Rich, a former culture and political columnist for The New York Times, writes for New York and is the executive producer of Veep. “All audiences bite back. If you have an opinion—forget about whether it’s theater or politics. If it’s about sports, fashion, or food—it doesn’t really matter. Readers are gonna bite back. And they should, you know? Everyone’s entitled. Everyone’s a critic. Everyone should have an opinion. You’re not laying down the law, and people should debate it.” Thanks to MailChimp and Casper for sponsoring this week's episode. @frankrichny Rich on Longform [2:00] Hot Seat: Theater Criticism for The New York Times, 1980-1993 (Random House • 1998) [13:30] "The Gay Decades" (Esquire • Nov 1987) [sub req'd] [15:45] Rich’s Archive at The New York Times [17:30] Rich’s Archive at The Harvard Crimson [18:15] Beacon School Newspaper [21:45] "What the Donald Shares With the Ronald" (New York • Jun 2016) [21:30] "No Matter What Trump Says or Does the GOP Will Never Abandon Him" (New York • Jun 2016) [24:00] The Greatest Story Ever Sold: The Decline and Fall of Truth in Bush’s America (Penguin Press • 2006) [27:30] Barack Obama at the 2008 DNC (YouTube) [32:45] "Donald Trump Is Saving Our Democracy" (New York • Sep 2015) [34:15] "Dewey defeats Truman" (Tim Jones • Chicago Tribune • 2016) [37:00] Veep [42:00] Nathaniel Rich on the Longform Podcast [42:30] Spoiled Brats: Stories (Simon Rich • Little, Brown, and Company • 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Louisa Thomas, a former writer and editor at Grantland, is a New Yorker contributor and the author of Louisa. Her father Evan Thomas, a longtime writer for Newsweek and Time, is the author of several award-winning books, including last year's Being Nixon. “That's one thing I've learned from my dad: the capacity to be open to becoming more open.” Thanks to MailChimp's Freddie and Co. for sponsoring this bonus episode. Show Notes: @louisahthomas louisathomas.com Louisa Thomas on Longform [:30] Louisa: The Extraordinary Life of Mrs. Adams (Penguin • 2016) [8:30] "James Reston a Giant of Journalism, Dies at 86" (R.W. Apple • New York Times • Dec 1995) [10:00] Longform Podcast #168: Ta-Nehisi Coates [16:30] "Adventures in Wonderlawn: Living the Surreal Life at Wimbledon" (Louisa Thomas • Grantland • July 2015) [25:30] "Clinton and the Intern" (Evan Thomas and Michael Isikoff • Newsweek • Feb 1998) [30:30] "Newsweek Kills Story on White House Intern" (Drudge Report • Jan 1998) [40:30] Being Nixon: A Man Divided (Random House • 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nikole Hannah-Jones covers civil rights for The New York Times Magazine. “I don’t think there’s any beat you can cover in America that race is not intertwined with—environment, politics, business, housing, you name it. So, whatever beat you put me on, this is what I was going to cover because I think it’s just intrinsic. If you’re not being blind to what’s on your beat, then it’s part of the beat.” Thanks to MailChimp's Freddie and Co., Audible, and Trunk Club for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @nhannahjones nikolehannahjones.com Hannah-Jones on Longform [3:00] "Choosing a School for My Daughter in a Segregated City" (New York Times Magazine • Jun 2016) [09:00] "562: The Problem We All Live With" (This American Life • Jul 2015) [09:00] "School Segregation, the Continuing Tragedy of Ferguson" (ProPublica • Dec 2014) [17:30] "Segregation Now" (ProPublica • Apr 2014) [18:15] Hannah-Jones's archive at The Oregonian [21:00] "512: House Rules" (This American Life • Nov 2013) [31:17] The Atlanta Journal-Constitution [38:35] "Why the Whiteness of the American Media Is Everyone’s Problem" (Howard French • The Guardian • Jun 2016) [39:05] "The Black Journalist and the Racial Mountain" (Ta-Nehisi Coates • The Atlantic • Jun 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jon Favreau, former chief speechwriter for President Obama, is a columnist at The Ringer and co-host of Keepin’ It 1600. “And then Obama comes over to my desk with the speech, and he has a few edits. And he’s like, ‘I just want to go through some of these edits and make sure you’re ok with this. I did this for this reason. Are you ok with that?’ And I’m like, ‘Yeah, buddy. You’re Barack Obama.’” Thanks to MailChimp's Freddie and Co., Freshbooks, Audible, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @jonfavs [1:00] Keepin’ It 1600 [1:00] Favreau’s Ringer Archive [5:00] "Ep. 75: Jon Favreau and Dan Pfeiffer" (The Bill Simmons Podcast • Apr 2016) [6:00] Favreau's 2003 Holy Cross commencement speech (College of the Holy Cross • May 2003) [13:00] "John Kerry’s 2004 concession speech" (YouTube) [15:00] Obama's 2004 DNC Convention speech (YouTube) [17:00] Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (Three Rivers Press • 1995) [22:00] Obama's 2005 commencement address at Knox College (YouTube) [32:00] "What Would Obama Say?" (Ashley Parker • New York Times • Jan 2008) [36:00] Obama's Iowa Caucus victory speech" (YouTube) [37:00] Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech (YouTube) [43:00] "The Aspiring Novelist Who Became Obama’s Foreign-Policy Guru" (David Samuels • New York Times Magazine • May 2016) [44:00] "Ep. 42: Ben Rhodes" (The Axe Files • Apr 2016) [45:00] "Some hard feelings in the White House press room over an official’s comments" (Paul Farhi • Washington Post • May 2016) [59:00] "Hey, Berniacs: I Learned to Love Hillary and So Can You" (The Daily Beast • Apr 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Leah Finnegan, a former New York Times and Gawker editor, is the managing news editor at Genius. “After the Condé Nast article, Nick Denton decided Gawker needed to be 20% nicer, and I took a buyout because I was not 20% nicer.” Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, Squarespace, and Trunk Club for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @leahfinnegan leahfinnegan.com genius.com/Leah [02:00] "Sunk" (Mitch Moxley • Atavist Magazine • May 2016) [05:00] Alec Baldwin’s Blog at The Huffington Post [05:00] The Daily Texan [07:00] "Top 10 Hipster Schools" (Huffington Post • Jun 2010) [13:00] News Genius [17:00] "The ‘Food Babe’ Blogger Is Full of Shit" (Yvette d’Entremont • Gawker • Apr 2015) [25:00] "This post has been removed." (Gawker • Jul 2015) [28:00] "Louis C.K. Will Call You Up to Talk About His Alleged Sexual Misconduct" (Jordan Sargent • Defamer • May 2015) [28:00] "Fred Armisen Has a Reputation" (Jordan Sargent • Gawker • Jan 2015) [29:00] "An Open Letter From Dylan Farrow" (Dylan Farrow •New York Times • Feb 2014) [30:00] "Who Wants to Remember Bill Cosby’s Multiple Sex-Assault Accusations?" (Tom Scocca • Gawker • Feb 2014) [30:00] "Hannibal Buress Called Bill Cosby a Rapist During a Stand Up" (YouTube • Oct 2014) [42:00] Margaret Sullivan on the Longform Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pablo Torre is a senior writer at ESPN the Magazine and frequently appears on Around the Horn, PTI, and other ESPN shows. “Most of my friends are not sports fans. My parents aren't. Brother and sister — no. So I just want to make things that they want to read. That's the big litmus test for me in deciding if a story is worth investing my time into: Is somebody who doesn’t give a shit about sports gonna be interested in this?” Thanks to MailChimp, Johnson & Johnson, FreshBooks, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. Show Notes: @PabloTorre Pablog Torre on Longform [07:00] Torre’s Harvard Crimson Archive [11:00] "Fuck It We’ll Do It Live!" (YouTube) [12:00] First Take [12:00] "Raissman: Who will be Stephen A. Smith’s next foil on ESPN" (Bob Raissman • New York Daily News • Apr 2016) [17:00] The Longform Guide to Nurses [21:00] A Voice Crying in the Wilderness (Tony Kornheiser • Sports Illustrated • Apr 1983) [23:00] Around the Horn [25:00] "How (and Why) Athletes Go Broke" (Sports Illustrated • Mar 2009) [28:00] "Sympathy for the Devil? Child Homicide, Victim Characteristics, and the Sentencing Preferences of the American Conscience" (Social Science Research Network • Mar 2007) [33:00] Broke (30 for 30 • Oct 2012) [35:00] "A Light In the Darkness" (Sports Illustrated • Jun 2010) [40:00] "Larger Than Real Life" (Sports Illustrated • Jul 2011) [42:00] "Where Are They Now? Mike Tyson" (Sports Illustrated • Aug 2010) [43:00] "The Biggest Little Man in the World" (Andrew Corsello • GQ • Mar 2010) [44:00] "Welcome To Manny’s World" (ESPN the Magazine • Apr 2015) [45:00] "A Mystery Wrapped Inside An Enigma Shrouded In a Beard" (ESPN the Magazine • Oct 2015) [45:00] "The Friendship That Divides the NBA" (ESPN the Magazine • May 2016) [51:00] "Isolation Play" (ESPN the Magazine • Mar 2015) [53:00] "Kobe Bryant Snaps After Lakers Practice, Calls Team 'Soft Like Charmin'" ( Mike Prada • SB Nation • Dec 2014) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices