How To Train Your Dog With Love + Science - Dog Training with Annie Grossman + Anamarie Johnson PhD (Formerly known as School For The Dogs Podcast)

Annie is joined by School For The Dogs apprentice Leeyah Wiseman to discuss two super important behaviors: Touch and find it. She and Annie discuss the benefits of teaching these two things and talk about why both behaviors are such great starting places for many dogs and their humans. Check out @schoolforthedogs' Reels on Instagram to see Leeyah demo both! Annie also engages in some time travel, reading a letter that Dr. Andrew Luescher, a veterinary behaviorist at Purdue University, wrote more than fifteen years ago. It was addressed to National Geographic, which had asked him to review their show, The Dog Whisperer, before it was released... Based on what happened next, it seems like no one read it. http://beyondcesarmillan.weebly.com/andrew-luescher.htmlSee the Illuminaughtii episode on Cesar Millan at https://youtu.be/ENl5RTBResYor find it on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Ygtrku55i49RA0HxxPVPGFind Leeyah on Instagram: http://instagram.com/galdogtrainingFind Annie on Instagram: http://instagram.com/annie.grossmanPrevious episodes with Malena DeMartini:Episode 159 https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/episode-159-how-has-quarantine-changed-the-way-we-think-about-treating-separation-anxiety-in-dogs-a-conversation-with-malena-demartini-ctc/Episode 59 https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/separation-anxiety-expert-malena-demartini-on-helping-dogs-learn-to-be-alone/Want to make sure you know when the next round of our apprentice opens up? Make sure to sign up for our newsletter! You can also email Annie directly at [email protected]. Love this podcast? Give it a five-star rating and leave a review on iTunes! ---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hi! Today I am joined by School for the Dogs' apprentice, Leeyah Wiseman, who is going to talk about two very important behaviors that we teach all the time at School for the Dogs, Find it and Touch. Leeyah has been doing reels for our Instagram. You can see them @schoolforthedogs on Instagram. You can also find Leeyah on Instagram @galdogtraining, it stands for George and Leeyah dog training. George is her pup.I tried to schedule this call with Leeyah at a time when my infant daughter would be napping, but I was foiled. So you can hear her goo-goo ga-ga-ing a little bit during this talk. And I apologize for that, but as working mother, sometimes I just have to not allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good, as they say.In the beginning of the conversation, I'm asking her about Malena DeMartini, who I've had on the podcast before, who was a separation anxiety expert. And earlier in the week, Malena was gracious enough to speak to our apprentices. We have guest speakers who participate periodically.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Right after getting a pandemic puppy, Tiffany Chen decided to see if she could build some sort of side hustle in order to get her out of the corporate world. She signed up for the Virtual Assistant Internship and learned that it's wise to pick a niche. While she was working on learning about training her own dog (and building his requisite Instagram persona) she started following a lot of positive reinforcement dog trainers. It occurred to her that maybe she could use her virtual assistant powers to help them improve their marketing. She and Annie discuss how fun the R+ dog training movement is on Instagram, talk about ways to help trainers build their followings, and think aloud together about some of the overlap between training dogs and how social media's efforts to train us.Follow Pawsistant on Instagram @pawsistantFollow Annie on Instagram @annie.grossmanFollow School For The Dogs on Instagram @schoolforthedogsAlso mentioned in this episode: @misunderstoodmutt @fromdusktilldog @k9fuel_ @doginspired https://virtualassistantinternship.com/---Partial Transcript:Annie:In the decades of my life before I became a professional dog trainer, I think I had an avatar in my brain for who a dog trainer would be, what a dog trainer would be like. And I mean, if I try and remember what that avatar is, it's someone female, older, and kind of uncool, kind of schoolmarm-ish. I guess kind of like Barbara Woodhouse, like a martinet. Not that I thought of myself as particularly cool. I didn't. But I think I thought of myself as uncool in a different kind of way than that.And when I pictured myself becoming a dog trainer, I didn't really have a picture of what that would be like. I had, even when I graduated from Karen Pryor Academy, I hadn't even seen that many people train dogs, period. And I didn't really, I couldn't quite picture what it would be like as a career.I mean, I literally didn't know, like how would I dress when I went to clients' houses? Like how, how do I as a dog trainer, like what clothing do I wear? It sounds simple and even silly to say that, but we're all playing roles all the time and I wasn't sure what this role was about or like how I could fit myself into it.And I think I've talked about this on the podcast before, but in 2010, I went to the Association for Professional Dog Trainers Conference in Atlanta. It was shortly after I had graduated Karen Pryor Academy where I had only met a couple of trainers, because there were only two other people in my class, and my instructor.And my mind was kind of blown, cause I just sort of had this moment of like seeing there's so many cool and fun and interesting things in the world of dog training. There's so much that you could do with dogs. There's so much to learn about dogs. And I think that this is somehow an overlooked hobby, discipline, area of the world when so many people have dogs in their homes.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie's life has two speeds right now. You'll find her physically trapped underneath her two young daughters using a suite of remote treat dispensers to train her dog, or she's at a local co-working space in a tiny room alone, talking to herself. In this bonus episode, on the one-year anniversary of her beloved dog Amos passing, she is in the latter mode, recording a kind of phone call to her late father, who she thinks would've enjoyed learning what she's learned about the Youtube star Blippi, aka Stevin John, fka Steven or "Steezy" Grossman (no relation). A line of thought about loving those who are no longer alive leads her to discuss the nature of pet love as something that exists inside of us and how the expression and feeling of that love is, in many ways, projection of something that doesn't go away when someone gone. She somehow relates this both to Travis Barker and Kourtney Kardashian's recent public display of their love of the movie True Romance and the way in which Nabokov's letters to his wife and to his mistress were sort of fungible. Also: She talks about how the app Duo Lingo is manipulating our behavior in a good way and she reveals the not-so-secret key to getting better at anything, which she only really understood after she became a dog trainer. Want to use a remote trainer to train YOUR dog while your kids are climbing on you? Get a Treat and Train at http://schoolforthedogs.com/TT---Partial Transcript:Annie:I'm sitting in a vertical phone booth, coffin-like, although rather brightly lit, tiny, windowless room in a We Work. If you can call this a room. I guess actually it does have windows, but not external windows. And I feel like my life rhythm is funny right now. I'm either in a spot like this, alone, either staring at a screen or talking to myself as I am now, or I am home underneath two small children, often literally lying down underneath them, it seems.Although to bring it back to dog training, I have set up a Pet Tutor and two Treat and Trains in my apartment because I feel like I have so little time to devote to training Poppy. And so I've been trying to use these moments where I'm like paralyzed under the two girls to do push button training, basically triggering the Treat and Train, one of the Treat and Trains.I have one on her bed, one in her crate, and then like her relaxation mat. So like go to bed, go to crate, go to mat. I just sort of have her going from one to the other with this hilarious, like all these buttons that I'm wearing, one for each dispenser. And it's, it's ridiculous, but I think it's been good for her. If only because when I have the two of them piled on me, like I don't also want her piled on me, which she has a tendency to do cause she likes to be snuggly. Anyway.But that moment is not this moment. This is the isolated-in-a-coffin moment. And I just wanted to share a couple things. One is that this is the one year anniversary of Amos dying today. And so I've been thinking a lot about him, but of course I think a lot about him every day. And I guess just, you know, feeling those feelings.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Dog trainer Ilana Alderman, one of Annie's closest friends, has a reputation at School For The Dogs for being a kind of Disney Princess: She looks sort of like Snow White, and seems to titter with birds and befriend fish like Cinderella or Ariel. For nearly a decade, Ilana has focused on training (and enriching the lives of) pretty much every animal she's come across. She has taught fish to play basketball, helped ring tail lemurs learn to step onto scales, taught goats to enjoy being milked, built tiny amusement parks for mice, and even trained the squirrels in her yard to ring a doorbell. She also has helped Annie organize her closet, and feels this is a kind of animal training too. Ilana has never owned a dog, but she has helped many dog owners, and is the architect of the School For The Dogs Professional Course and its open source free online text book, Born To Behave. She and Annie discuss her journey into the world of behavior and the latest animal who is benefiting from being her presence: Her son. Find Born to Behave at http://schoolforthedogs.com/coursesFor more from Ilana, see this summer’s bonus episode: Annie reads animal trainer Ilana Alderman's 14 tips on getting a toddler to brush his teeth https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-annie-reads-animal-trainer-ilana-aldermans-14/id1355439730?i=1000524543383 Find Ilana on Instagram @baby_enrichment and on the web at childcooperativecare.wordpress.com/---Partial Transcript:Annie:Ilana Alderman. I have tried so hard to get you on this podcast. You know how hard I've tried. So, God, I don't even know where to start, cause you are such a dynamic person who I also happen to love very much.Ilana Alderman:Aw honey.Annie:But, why don't you just introduce yourself, and then maybe we can kind of go chronologically. Why don't you introduce yourself by whatever title you would currently give yourself in your life, and then we could maybe work backwards or forwards. Forwards from, from early on…Ilana:To now. Okay. Yeah. The title I would give myself professionally would probably be Animal Behavior Consultant or I, at parties, I say I'm a dog trainer. It's just so much simpler. And yeah, I like to work with any species of animals, including humans. So everything to do with behavior and how it works, and how we can change the way people or animals feel in a given situation. That's what really fascinates me. And let's see what else we were asking me, how did I,Annie:I mean, I say that you came into my life, I guess it was before the fire.Ilana:It was before the fire!Annie:Cause I remember you came to School for the Dogs when it was in my living room.Ilana:Yes.Annie:And yes, I think at that point you were thinking about doing Karen Pryor Academy and you were living upstate and you came in to just talk to me a little bit about it. Little did I know what a force you were. So it must have been like 2013, 2012.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie talks about why she is generally against costumes for dogs and suggests some alternatives to dressing up your dog on Halloween. She also discusses some feedback she got about last week’s episode, which featured an interview with the lawyer representing the woman who was mauled by Cesar Millan’s dog. Lastly, she shares two anecdotes: one about how she is using a Buy Nothing group on Facebook to get neighbors to help her train her dog (unbeknownst to them) and the other about how her attempt to use negative reinforcement to get her daughter to brush her teeth ultimately back fired (in a sort of hilarious way). Like this episode? Leave a review on iTunes! Follow us on Instagram: @schoolforthedogs @annie.grossman Mentioned in this episode:Treat N Train Remote treat dispenser http://Schoolforthedogs.com/TTSchool For The Dogs Community App http://Schoolforthedogs.com/communityPet Paint - http://petpaint.comRonda Kaysen’s NY Times article on Buy Nothing https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/realestate/buy-nothing-facebook-group.htmlOther episodes mentioned in this episode:https://anchor.fm/dogs/episodes/Suing-Cesar-Meet-the-lawyer-of-teen-mauled-by-Dog-Whisperers-dog--And-How-to-train-2-dogs-at-once-e18r9ebhttps://anchor.fm/dogs/episodes/The-mainstream-media-is-confused-about-dog-training-Two-journalists-turned-trainers-discuss-a-misguided-WSJ-op-ed--more-featuring-Kiki-Yablon-e176pjjPrevious episodes and blog posts Annie has done about dogs and Halloween: https://anniegrossman.com/2018/10/podcast/episode-31-halloween-dogs-how-to-make-costumes-less-scary-for-pets/10052/http://anniegrossman.com/2010/11/training/the-psychological-torment-of-a-dog-on-halloween/346/https://www.theawl.com/2011/10/the-east-village-halloween-parade-for-east-village-humans-who-enjoy-dressing-up-dogs/---Partial Transcript:Annie:So today's episode is a little bit of a hodgepodge. I have four things I want to talk about. One is a response to last week's episode. One is a bit of advice. And then I have two, I guess, stories to tell. One about operant conditioning and my daughter, and the other about some dog training success I've had with my own dog. A sort of clever solution to a problem I was having that I'd like to tell y’all about. Because maybe this, what would you call it, scheme that I've come up with could work for you too.Okay. First thing I want to address is that we're about a week away from Halloween and I've had a couple of people say to me, you really need to do some kind of episode about Halloween. Although every year when people start suggesting this, it's already October, and I think to myself I should have done an episode about this six months ago.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

In the summer of 2017, Lidia Matiss, then a high schooler, went to visit her mom at her workplace and, inside the office, was brutally attacked by an off-leash dog. Her mother worked for Cesar's Way, which belongs to Cesar Millan, aka The Dog Whisperer; the dog was Millan's late pit bull, Junior. Annie interviews LA-based lawyer Brian Adesman, who is representing the victim in a suit against Millan, and learns some of the surprising details about the case, including Millan's blaming of the victim and how Queen Latifah's dead dog fits into the picture. Also, Annie answers a question from a longtime client who wants to know how to go about training a new dog, and her old dog at the same time. She mentions the Revol crate, the Treat and Train, and the Good Dog Training course, all available at StoreForTheDogs.com. https://storeforthedogs.com/products/the-revol-dog-crate http://schoolforthedogs.com/tt https://storeforthedogs.com/collections/online-courses/products/726834 For a limited time, we're offering a 30-minute virtual private session when you purchase our Good Dog Training course. Learn more when you do our free and useful 1-hour master class at http://anniegrossman.com/masterclass Have a training question you'd like answered? Submit it at http://schoolforthedogs.com/qanda Learn more about Brian Adesman at https://www.qureshi.law/brian-adesman Like this podcast? Please leave a five-star rating and a review on iTunes! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1355439730 Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a recording of a live Q and A done on Instagram, @schoolforthedogs. Annie had no childcare while doing this episode and hoped her infant would stay asleep the whole time, but...she didn't!Annie answer's listener's questions about...-An older Cheweenie who has stopped peeing/pooping in the yard ever since a younger, smaller dog came to live with them.-A dog who will only go in the yard when the owner is there with him.-A newly-adopted senior Chihuahua who is goes bonkers when seeing other dogs on the streetand-A Bernedoodle who is jumping on people.Get alerted about the next one or ask a question in advance at http://schoolforthedogs.com/qanda.Mentioned in this episode:Episode 117 | Dog Training Q and A! 2/4/2021: Is it okay if my dog only “goes” once a day? Also: Counter surfing, curbing barking in the dog park, helping a dog feel okay about the car after a car crash, and morehttps://bit.ly/3oZ703xSFTD's Sidewalks Psychos class https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/services/sidewalk-psychos/---Partial Transcript:Annie:I am recording this Q and A for the podcast, but I am conducting it on Instagram Live. And if you have a question and you would like to put it in the chat, I will try to answer it. However, full disclosure, I have a huge backload of questions to answer because people do submit questions to me at anniegrossman.com/ask. You are welcome to submit a question there and I will try and answer it.I'm a little embarrassed though, because I logged in today to look at the question file, and there were a whole bunch of questions that have come in, cause I haven't done a Q and A in a while. So if you asked a question a few months ago and I have not gotten to it, I'm sorry. I will try to be more on top of it.I squarely placed the blame on my infant daughter. She stands in the way of some things, but she's actually really wonderful and I'm mentioning her because I scheduled this Q and A right now at a time where I don't have anyone helping me with her. And so she is right next to me and she is fast asleep and I'm hoping she will stay asleep. but she might wake up. In which case you might end up seeing me giving a bottle to a three month old while answering dog training questions. I'm a modern woman who can do it all.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

If you want to get the best work out of employees, do you send them on a scavenger hunt each week when it's time for them to get paid, or do you put the money directly into their bank account? When it comes to dog training, it's equally important to think about where you're delivering "payment." Annie suggests where you might want to put a treat, depending on the circumstances, why this is an important thing to think about, and talks about how she once witnessed a dog training miracle that involved nothing but a paper plate.Are you in NYC? Apply to School Yard, our members-only off leash service, at http://schoolforthedogs.com/application Learn more about all our services at http://schoolforthedogs.com/services Have a dog training question? Annie will try to answer it during next week's Q and A! Ask away at http://anniegrossman.com/ask---Partial Transcript:Annie:I wanted to give a quick update on the friend I spoke to during last week’s episode. Right after we talked, she text messaged me: “Thank you for having this conversation with me tonight. I’m so clueless. I feel so comforted after our talk. Can’t wait to try the Flirt Pole, and I bought some bully sticks already. We’ll get lots of toys and I will do everything you said.”And then the next morning she wrote me, “I literally just made a maze on the ground with his food this morning. And he was so happy. I should’ve called you when my kid was struggling in school and was quote unquote bored. He really was bored, and we fixed it by packing his schedule with activities.”And then about a month passed. And I didn’t hear from her. And I had sent her access to a couple of our on demand courses. But I could see she hadn’t logged in. And I thought, you know, maybe she did decide to go the shock collar route, or maybe they decided to re-home the dog.So anyway, I texted her to check in and she wrote, “Hi, I was just thinking of how grateful I am for your help today. We had a playdate with a Coonhound. Much better. I did what you recommended with the intro to drop it by throwing hotdog pieces at him that helped a lot. Mike,” that’s her husband, “occasionally works with him in the field.” He does skeet shooting? Or I don’t know what you call it. Something with guns. [laughs] “Mike occasionally works with him in the field but has the shock collar on vibrate just to get his attention to come back. He’s having lots of play dates with my mom’s dogs.”So that was really nice to hear. And I’m glad she and the pup and the family are doing well. Tangentially related, if you are in the New York City area and you were trying to figure out how to get some good play time in for your dog, which was one thing that she and I spoke about last week, do make sure to check out a School for the Dogs’ web page, where we have information about our off-leash sessions.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

One of Annie’s best friends from high school got a puppy and called Annie to get some advice on managing a puppy in a household with four kids (and a husband who isn’t totally in favor of keeping the dog…). Annie gives her friend some helpful tips.Links:Work to Eat toyshttps://www.schoolforthedogs.com/worktoeat/How to make a flirt polehttps://storeforthedogs.com/blogs/news/dog-flirt-poles-you-can-diy--Partial Transcript:Annie:What you are about to hear is a conversation I had about a month ago with a friend of mine from high school. She lives in the Midwest, in the suburbs of a big city. She has four little kids. She texted me saying that she had just gotten a puppy, but things were not going so well, and her husband really wanted to get rid of the puppy, and she was feeling rather desperate. So I said, give me a call. Let’s talk this through. Maybe I can give you some ideas, but Hey, would you mind if I recorded our conversation? And perhaps I can share it on the podcast.As regular listeners know, I got a lot going on these days. In addition to running School for the Dogs, I have these two tiny kids. And so I’m looking for any opportunity I can find to multitask. So, she called while I was doing Play-doh with my older daughter. And yeah, enjoy this little, you get a little snapshot into my life. Kids in the background while I spoke to her and tried to talk her through some of her puppy problems.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie shares two recent anecdotes from her life, both involving humans behaving in extreme ways and young animals she loves (her toddler and her dog Poppy) having meltdowns. These two events made her think about punishment, fear, socialization, behavioral expectations, generalizations, and the way in which people treat animals (dogs or humans) who are emotional, for whatever reason. The episode talks about counter conditioning, using punishment on animals who are experiencing fear, and looks at the weird ways in which different people react to scared dogs: from bellowing at them to getting down on all fours.Enjoying this podcast? Here are things you can do!-Give a 5-star rating and leave a review on iTunes-Follow @schoolforthedogs and @annie.grossman on Instagram-Shop at storeforthedogs.com-Tell your friends about us-Sign up for our newsletter at schoolforthedogs.com/newsletter---Partial Transcript:[music and intro]Annie:I wanted to share two kind of crazy experiences I had recently that relate to behavior and dog training in my own life. I guess you could classify this kind of episode as a Dear Diary type episode. And my three month old Marigold is right next to me as I’m recording this. And first she had the hiccups and now she’s sneezing. I think she wants to make herself known in this episode, which actually is about her in some ways.So one of these life episodes is, I would say, crazier than the other. And they’re both about people who I guess you could call crazy, but I feel like that’s sort of a broad and sloppy term, probably not particularly PC. So I think I’m gonna go with calling both these people simply bananas.The first incident I wanted to talk about happened about a week ago when I was on my way home from my daughter’s nursery school. I think it was her first day of nursery school. I had her with me, she’s two and a half, and the baby. And we were waiting for the bus and the bus wasn’t coming.And finally the bus came, and right before the bus came, a cab went by, and Magnolia said, “I wanna take a taxi.” And I said, “No, honey, we’re taking the bus.” We got on the bus and she had a meltdown. “I wanna take a taxi! I wanna take a taxi!” Crying, screaming about how she didn’t wanna get on the bus, she wanted to take a cab.I had to pick her up because she was doing that toddler thing where they try and go flat on the floor. And I was also carrying the baby. I had the baby like strapped to me. And the bus was really crowded and some very kind person stood up and said, “Why don’t you take my seat?” And meanwhile, Magnolia is screaming, crying the whole time.And you know, I felt like everyone was looking at us, but not with like great anger. Just kind of with like that upside down smile, like Beaker the Muppet smile-frown, feeling pity for me, I guess.But the guy who was in the seat right next to me, an older man starts saying to me, “You need to chastise that child! This is the problem with the world today. You should be chastising her. If she was my kid, I’d smack her.” And at that point, I’d say two or three people nearby me offered to get up and give me their seats.Full transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Last month, the Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece about how positive-reinforcement dog training is too much trouble, concluding that punishment-based training is faster and, overall, underrated. Quite a few dog trainers wrote to the Wall Street Journal, angry that such a major publication would run something with such spurious facts and no sources. Annie called up her long time friend Kiki Yablon to talk about why so much "journalism" about dog training goes wrong. Kiki, who is a Karen Pryor Academy faculty member and trains dogs in Chicago, was an editor for many years, and turned to a career in dog training around the same time as Annie quit the field of journalism as well. In this casual chat, the two discuss the errors reporters frequently make when writing about dogs, the traditional media's dismissiveness of pets as a serious subject, the general public's misunderstandings about behavior as a science, and the flubs they both made themselves when attempting to write about dog training before they set out to become trainers.Learn more about Kiki at https://kikiyablondogtraining.com/Learn more about my cousin Dinah Grossman's pie shop in Chicago at https://www.spinningj.com/Like this podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes! ------Notes:I’m Disciplining My Dog, Not Torturing Her, Wall Street Journal 8/2/21https://www.wsj.com/articles/dog-training-barking-puppy-ecollar-prong-collar-11627919661Letters to the editor about the articlehttps://www.wsj.com/articles/peta-train-your-dog-humane-shock-prong-collar-crating-11628546838?cx_testId=3&cx_testVariant=cx_4&cx_artPos=0&mod=WTRN#cxrecs_sMore about Laura Monaco Torellihttps://www.lauramonacotorelli.com/Roald Dahl's The Sound Machine (1949)https://fleurmach.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/rdahl_screamingtrees.pdfAnnie's 2007 article about people becoming dog trainershttps://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/fashion/27DOGS.htmlChicago Reader article Kiki edited about pitbullshttps://chicagoreader.com/news-politics/born-bad/---Partial Transcript:Kiki Yablon:There’s this Roald Dahl story that ran in The New Yorker that I think about all the time. And basically it’s a man who invents a box that makes sounds audible to him that other people can’t hear. And then he takes it out in the garden and the neighbor is pruning her roses and all he can hear are screams. That’s the level I think that we all get to when we’re working with animals and their people, and you see all these little moments of misery. Or like sometimes I wake up thinking about, God, dogs have to ask every time they need to go to the bathroom for their entire life. Like…!Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a rebroadcast of Episode 3, which originally aired on 3/18/18.Training a dog where to pee and poop is a major priority for most new dog owners. But there is a lot of misinformation on how to do it -- we don't even have a term for it that make sense! Are we training the house? Is it still "house breaking" if you live in an apartment? Annie breaks down how to take on this task in a way that can be easy and error-free using smart management tools, good timing, and well-thought out rewards. Download our free eBook on house training at http://schoolforthedogs.com/housePlease make sure to subscribe & give us 5-stars on iTunes! Click here for show notes! http://anniegrossman.com/2018/03/podcast/podcast-episode-3-modern-guide-house-training-dog/9308/Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/episode-3-a-modern-guide-to-house-training-your-dog/ Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is the audio of a live presentation Annie gave for New York City's Animal Medical Center's Usdan Institute for Animal Health Education last week. Annie offers actionable advice for preventing separation anxiety and handling other behavioral issues that may arise as people begin to return to offices after long periods of working from home, with their dogs constantly by their sides.This presentation discusses: How to locate a certified dog trainer and understand what "Good Dog Training" is... Changing a dog's emotional states... Reading dog body language to assess stress levels... Monitoring dogs remotely... Creative dog care arrangements for when owners aren't around... Conducting separation trials in a way that sets up dogs for success...And more!You can view the presentation in full here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NaAP5Cskd8&feature=youtu.beSchool For The Dogs' trainers are available for private sessions to deal with issues relating to true separation anxiety. Book a session at schoolforthedogs.com or call us at 212-353-DOGSLooking for online help? Check out Malena DeMartini's on-demand course on dealing with separation anxiety at http://schoolforthedogs.com/mission. Use code SFTD for 50% off.Learn more about School For The Dogs classes and workshops, both virtual and in NYC, at http://schoolforthedogs.com/services---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hi. Today I am sharing the audio of a virtual presentation I did last week for New York City's Animal Medical Center. They asked me to talk about how people can prepare their dogs for them going back to work outside of their homes, which I know a lot of people are hoping to do soon.How can we make sure that dogs who have been home with us, as we've worked from home for the last year, plus. How can we make sure to set them up for success if they are going to need to be without us for longer periods of time?So yeah, I put together this presentation. If you want to see the presentation, not just listen to it, you can find the link to it in the show notes, I will put a YouTube link there. I will also link to some of the books that I mentioned on separation anxiety.This presentation is really sort of about how to prevent separation anxiety, not how to deal with separation anxiety, but if you are already dealing with separation anxiety, I definitely suggest these books. I also suggest checking out Malena DeMartini’s course, which you can find at schoolforthedogs.com/mission. I had her on the podcast a few months ago to talk about it. I've done it. I learned a lot from it. You can get 50% off if you use that link and the code SFTD.Also, before I play this for you, I wanted to let you all know that we have a lot of virtual offerings and we're adding even more to the schedule this fall. Of course, if you're in New York City, you should make sure to check out our website to find out about our local classes and workshops. You can also find our schedule on Instagram.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Nora Moran is a director at Puppies Behind Bars, a program that employs prisoners to raise and train puppies who will grow up to become service dogs, therapy dogs, and working dogs. She first learned about the program when she herself got the opportunity to raise a puppy while incarcerated at New York's Bedford Hills Correctional Facility. Since her release in 2008, she has been working to help more prisoners raise dogs and learn about training. She and Annie discuss the kinds of work the prisoners are doing with the dogs, and talk about the transformations that take place as prisoners welcome dogs, and behavioral science, into their lives. In this episode, Annie also reads the American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior's recent position paper on humane training. Learn more about Puppies Behind Bars at puppiesbehindbars.com Read the AVSAB position statement at http://schoolforthedogs.com/humanetraining Mentioned in this episode: Treat Everyone Like a Dog: How a Dog Trainer's World View Can Improve Your Life by Karen B. London, PhD http://amazon.com/Treat-Everyone-Like-Dog-Trainers/dp/1952960002 AVSAB's Recommended Reading List: 1. Decoding Your Dog (American College of Veterinary Behaviorists) 2. Decoding Your Cat (American College of Veterinary Behaviorists) 3. From Fearful to Fear Free (Dr. Marty Becker, Dr. Lisa Radosta, Dr. Wailani Sung, Mikkel Becker) 4. Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy (Zazie Todd) 5. Puppy Start Right (Dr. Kenneth Martin and Debbie Martin) 6. The Power of Positive Dog Training (Pat Miller) 7. Don’t Shoot the Dog! (Karen Pryor) 8. How to Behave So Your Dog Behaves (Dr. Sophia Yin) 9. The Other End of the Leash (Patricia McConnell) 10. Control Unleashed: Reactive to Relaxed (Leslie McDevitt) 11. Animal Training: Successful Animal Management through Positive Reinforcement (Ken Ramirez)---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hi there. I have an interesting conversation to share with you all today. I spoke to Nora Moran who learned to train dogs as an inmate in prison. She was incarcerated for 10 years and was a puppy raiser behind bars. And now she works for Puppies Behind Bars as a director. I asked her about the program and her evolution as a dog trainer.But before I share my chat with Nora, I wanted to read aloud a position statement that was just published by AVSAB, that stands for the American Veterinary Society of Animal Behaviorists. They put out this excellent statement about why we should not be using force punishment and aversive techniques to train dogs.So I am reading it aloud. It takes me about 13 minutes. I read the whole thing, including the Frequently Asked Questions, plus the books they recommend, if you’re interested in learning more about positive reinforcement training. So if you’ve already read it or you’re not interested, you can skip ahead about 13 or 14 minutes. You can also find the position paper on our website at schoolforthedogs.com/humanetraining.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Tamara Meyer is a dog trainer with something of a dream job: She hangs out in the woods with dogs. Her Manhattan-based business, Shape Up Your Pup, brings groups of dogs to trails near the city every day. Annie met her when she was very pregnant and was looking for ways to make sure that her young dog, Poppy, got some good exercise. Annie asks her about the origins of her business, her journey to becoming a trainer, and gets tips on how to work with dogs -- one or many! -- off leash.Shape Up Your Puphttps://www.shapeupyourpup.com/Tracking collar mentioned: Garmin Astro 430https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/545353Bear bellshttps://amzn.to/2VXCV85---Partial TranscriptTamara Meyer:Hi everyone. My name is Tamara Meyer. I am the owner of New York City-based dog hiking and training company, Shape Up Your Pup, which I founded in 2017. Dating back, I have always felt very connected with animals and drawn to them, obviously dogs, especially. But as a kid I needed to stop and pet every dog that walked on the street.It’s funny, cause I actually did not grow up with dogs in my early age. I spent actually 18 years of my life begging my parents to get a dog. And it was literally years and years and years of begging and begging. And my mom being very stubborn was always saying no, just simply based on her thoughts about the house being stinky and hair everywhere.And I just wouldn’t budge either, so I totally persisted and finally convinced my parents in 2007 when they agreed to get a dog. I had my heart set on a lab and I just felt that a lab would fit in perfectly with our family. So I did tons of research and we were paired with our amazing dog when he was around eight weeks old.But that moment that he came home truly carved kind of my life path. And I oftentimes get emotional talking about my dog Simba because he unfortunately passed three years ago. And I have so much to be grateful to him for, but he’s really the reason behind every milestone I’ve accomplished the last four years. And of course the biggest one being starting my own company.Annie:Did you go to college? Did you study anything relating to dogs in college? Or did you work in any areas before?Tamara:So it wasn’t until I really graduated from college that I knew I needed to set myself up for this career where I wanted to have really professional experience working with dogs for around two years. Cause I was just thinking very far ahead, and I was planning out, you know, what do I need to do to get myself to have the most experience I could? Work with every kind of dog, every breed, every temperament, and really set myself off on that path.So right out of college, I began working for a local dog walking and training company in my town, knowing this was the first step to gaining professional experience. I just wanted to get as much exposure and learn all I could about dogs. So I shadowed trainers, and I trained with my own dog whenever he was up for it.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Kate Senisi and Annie Grossman founded School For The Dogs together in 2011. What a decade it's been! Kate, who oversees training and staff at School For The Dogs, is quite busy and can be hard to pin down. But, when trapped in a car with Annie, she agreed to record a casual conversation about the business, the specific challenges faced by city dogs and their owners, and SFTD's unique offerings. She also offered her tempered and reasonable views on two topics about which Annie tends to get highly fired up: Cesar Millan and shock collars. Learn more about Sidewalk Psychoshttps://www.schoolforthedogs.com/services/sidewalk-psychos/Learn more about Stranger Dangerhttps://dogs.pike13.com/courses/267279Played in this episode: Millan discusses shows ABC 7 Chicago https://abc7.ws/2TKmQl710 reasons to watch Better Human Better Dog, from Cesar MIllan's Twitter feedhttps://twitter.com/cesarmillan/status/1421160078812479489Previous episode mentioned: Terrible dog training, sugarcoated with New Age woo: Cesar Millan is back on TVhttps://anchor.fm/dogs/episodes/Terrible-dog-training--sugarcoated-with-New-Age-woo-Cesar-Millan-is-back-on-TV-e158cl8---Partial TranscriptAnnie:I am in a position where I have a lot of friends, colleagues, employees, who are amazing dog trainers and really smart, interesting people. And I have tried to get them to come on the podcast, and I’ve had a lot of trouble doing so.Now I don’t think that’s because they don’t like me or they don’t like the podcast. I think it’s because not everyone is as comfortable talking publicly about, I don’t know, things in general and maybe dog training in particular in this way that you’re doing when you’re doing a podcast where you’re sort of speaking to an unknown audience of people in what is sort of an intimate way, because we’re going straight into your ears.And a lot of these people who I respect and and love and I’ve learned from are very careful people who don’t necessarily have the time to put together all the notes and thoughts that they might like to have, I guess, on hand before talking to me for a recorded conversation for the podcast.And, you know, it’s something that I think is both a blessing and a curse in my person, is I think I generally lay things out, lay out the things that I’m thinking. I am not a big plan ahead-er. I am rather impulsive. And I think all of these qualities make it possible to produce a podcast.But also you know, like I talked about last episode, it can leave me feeling rather vulnerable, because I know that I am being very honest about my thoughts and feelings about things, and not everyone is gonna agree with me. But I believe, often, in not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

To many people, everything they know about dog training has come out of the mouth of one man: Cesar Millan. For nine seasons, on his show, The Dog Whisperer, he told people that they needed to fix their "energy" and become more assertive in order to get their dogs to be "calm submissive." He showed how to get dogs to do what he wanted by using punishment, force and coercion, although he had other words he used to describe his methods... words having to do with "joy" and "positivity." He managed to put a New Age-quasi-spiritual-spin on antiquated methods, and the public ate it up. In anticipation of his brand new show, Better Human Better Dog, Annie discusses her current, and past thoughts about Cesar Millan, and plays several interviews where he talks about his shows and his beliefs about dogs and the humans who, according to him, cause all their problems. 2012 blog posts Annie wrote about Cesar Millan: Cesar Millan’s secret training technique: Kicking dogs in the stomachhttps://bit.ly/2Vk6ZKGCesar Millan’s techniques: choking, shocking, and setting up dogs to failhttps://bit.ly/379zDRdThe Dog Whisperer is cancelled, but Cesar Millan will not stop existinghttps://bit.ly/3rKi3NcHaving their say: Cesar Millan’s fans (and a few detractors) https://bit.ly/3BYHsr0Alan Titchmarsh 2012 interview with Cesar Millan, aka The Dog Whispererhttps://bit.ly/3xjBzB7---Trailer to Better Human Better Doghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upo4WZOnlLU&t=1sMillan discusses shows ABC 7 Chicago https://abc7.ws/2TKmQl7---Related episodes:Episode 68: Is Dominance Really A Thing? Cesar Millan, Libertarianism + A Dog Named Pizzahttps://bit.ly/377FYg9Episode 44: Are you talking to your socks? Marie Kondo, Cesar Millan & training humans with snake oilhttps://bit.ly/3lmV7SO---Like this podcast? Review and rate us on iTunes and shop in our online store, StoreForTheDogs.com!StoreForTheDogs.com items mentioned in this episode: The Culture Clash by Jean Donaldsonhttps://storeforthedogs.com/products/book-culture-clash---Partial Transcript:Annie:I really hate Cesar Millan. I have found that there are basically three kinds of people. The first kind of person falls into the category of many of my friends, where those people just don’t care at all about Cesar Millan, and see my hatred of Cesar Millan as some sort of quirk about me. Kind of as if someone, I don’t know, you know, someone who hates the Beatles. It’s something you know about them that sort of doesn’t make a lot of sense.Then, there are people I know who are dog trainers like me, and pretty much every dog trainer I hang out with feels the same way as I do about Cesar Millan.Then there is a third category of person who loves Cesar Millan to the nth degree. And these people are very vocal about how much they love him. And, you know, this is a podcast essentially about dog training...Full transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

New York Magazine reports that the Pandemic Puppy boom has left many New Yorkers in a kind of do-gooder competition to see who can qualify to get one of a seemingly dwindling number of rescue dogs. Annie talks about why it’s so hard and how that this fact is probably a good thing for the dogs involved. She offers some tips on how to acquire a shelter dog and things to avoid doing when you're looking to buy or adopt a dog. She also argues that it can be a good idea to work with a quality breeder, and gives some advice on how to tell the good from the shady. New York Magazine articlehttps://www.thecut.com/2021/07/why-adopting-a-rescue-dog-is-so-hard-right-now.htmlOrthopedic Foundations For Animals and the CHIC Program https://www.ofa.org/about/chic-programThe Culture Clash by Jean Donaldsonhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/1617811122?tag=thedogs00-20Pets In America by Katherine C. Grierhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0807829900?tag=thedogs00-20The Dog Merchants by Kim Kavin https://www.amazon.com/dp/1681771403?tag=thedogs00-20Predisposed: Liberals, Conservatives and the Biology of Political Differences by Kevin Smith, John Hibbing and John Alford https://www.amazon.com/dp/0415535875?tag=thedogs00-20Episode with Cherie Mahon of River Valley Doodles https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/lets-talk-about-dog-breeding-with-cherrie-mahon-of-river-valley-doodles/---Partial Transcript:Annie:So last week I talked about two articles in the New Yorker that related to — well, one really related to behavior, and the other related to dogs. This week, I want to talk about an article in another local, big deal magazine, which is New York Magazine just came out with a cover story called “No, you beg: how adopting a dog in the city became more competitive than getting into college” by Allie Conti.And the article does a good job at talking about how hard it has been to get a rescue dog since the onset of the pandemic, as so many more people decided to or had to work from home, or lost jobs, giving them more free time. Having a dog, in so many cases, became possible for individuals and for families for the first time ever in a lot of cases.I got my first dog when I went freelance after having office jobs for years when I was in my early twenties. I should mention that I am holding my infant daughter again this week. So you might hear some cooing and pacifier sucking noises.Anyway, yeah, interesting article. Makes some good points about the history of adoption and how it kind of started with a rebranding of dogs as bad stray mutts that need to be chased by the dog catcher, to kind of sad-eyed, wannabe man’s best friends eroding away in shelters.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie was pretty psyched to see The New Yorker had two articles in a recent issue that looked like they'd touch on the science of behavior as it relates to both training dogs and raising children. One article is about pandemic pet ownership and rescuing dogs from China; the other is about sleep training infants. Ultimately both underscore what she already knew: The science of behavior and its applications are pretty misunderstood, and few people share the kind of passion that Positive Reinforcement dog trainers have for molding behavior (canine or human) without using force and coercion. Mentioned in this episode: Why People Treat Their Dogs Like Humans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFKvCL_JC8 What Will Become Of Pandemic Pets? (Note: Digital version has a different title than the print version of this article) https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/06/28/what-will-become-of-the-pandemic-pets The Promise and Peril of a High-Priced Sleep Trainer https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/06/28/the-promise-and-the-peril-of-a-high-priced-sleep-trainer People Of Earth, Hello: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/06/28/people-of-earth-hello Anna Heyward's Bad Dog article in The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/bad-dog Infant Sleep Info Source https://www.basisonline.org.uk/ Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat by Hal Herzog https://www.amazon.com/dp/0061730858?tag=thedogs00-20 Inside Of A Dog by Alexandra Horowitz https://www.amazon.com/dp/1416583432?tag=thedogs00-20 Dogs by Ray and Lorna Coppinger https://www.amazon.com/dp/0226115631?tag=thedogs00-20 Annie's dad's first cartoon in The New Yorker circa 1961 https://bit.ly/3il..So this issue comes the other day, and lo and behold, the first two articles — this is the issue, June 28th issue. It has a girl putting on eyeliner on the cover. The first two articles, one is called Pet Projects: Why are we so crazy about our animals by Nick Paumgarten... Full transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Maria Skorobogatov, CTC, is a dog trainer who has spent the last six years traveling the world training animals. She's worked with dogs in Hanoi, cats in Tunisia and Rome, and everything from pangolins to elephants to vervet monkeys in Malawi. Originally from Brooklyn, Maria discovered the joys of animal training when she lucked into a client service's job at The Houston Zoo. When she saw the work the trainers were doing there, she started taking classes in behavior at a community college, where she learned to train rats. She later moved to San Francisco, worked at an animal shelter there, and eventually enrolled in Jean Donaldson's acclaimed Academy For Dog Trainers. While working as a trainer and dog walker in Brooklyn, she got the opportunity to dog sit in Vietnam for a month, and that trip ultimately led to her current lifestyle as a world-traveling trainer. Annie and Maria first met in middle school! They lost touch after eighth grade, but reconnected recently and discovered they both have ended up working as positive-reinforcement based dog trainers, and have nearly-identical heroes and philosophies. She and Annie catch up and discuss her life as a world-traveling animal trainer. Fun fact: As a child, Maria played the young version of the main character in a famous horror film. Listen to the episode to learn more! Like this podcast? Support it by leaving a 5-star review on iTunes, telling your friends, shopping in our online store, or signing up for Annie's mailing list. Learn more about School For The Dogs at SchoolForTheDogs.com. Mentioned in this episode: The Academy For Dog Trainers https://www.academyfordogtrainers.com The Huston Zoo https://www.houstonzoo.org/ The Peninsula Humane Society https://phs-spca.org/ Lilongwe Wildlife Trust https://www.lilongwewildlife.org/ Rome Torre Argentina Cat Sanctuary https://www.gattidiroma.net/web/en/ Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson https://storeforthedogs.com/products/book-culture-clash Don't Shoot The Dog by Karen Pryor https://www.amazon.com/dp/1860542387?tag=thedogs00-20---Partial Transcript:Annie:I am here with Maria Skorobogatov, who — I said it right, right?Maria Skorobogatov:You did! It’s perfect.Annie:Who I have known since 1992.Maria:Jesus. Yeah.Annie:We met in the sixth grade long before either one of us were dog trainers. And Maria and I then pretty much lost touch, I guess like at the start of high school. But we reconnected. Gosh, was it on Facebook?Maria:I think so.Annie:Last year or the year before? I can’t even remember how, but lo and behold, we’re both now —Maria:Illustrious dog trainers.Annie:We’re both now passionate, passionate reinforcement based dog trainers who have both had rather interesting careers. And we are meeting up today for the first time in so long because Maria happens to be in town, and I said, you have to come talk to me about your life as a world traveling dog trainer.Full transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

For two decades, Malena DeMartini has been helping people help dogs who have separation anxiety. She joined Annie to discuss her new book, Treating Separation Anxiety in Dogs: Next Generation Treatment Protocols and Practices. In it, she reveals some surprising updates to the protocols she suggested in her first book (spoiler: she now wants her clients to do LESS training than before). She and Annie also discuss her virtual school for coaching Certified Separation Anxiety Trainers, her client-facing course, Mission Possible, and how quarantine changed the way people understand what canine separation anxiety really is. Malena's course: Mission Possible http://schoolforthedogs.com/mission Use code SFTD and save 50% at checkout Like this podcast? Support it by leaving a 5-star review on iTunes, telling your friends, shopping in our online store, or signing up for Annie's mailing list. Learn more about School For The Dogs at SchoolForTheDogs.com.----------- Listen to Annie's May 2020 episode with Malena here https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/separation-anxiety-expert-malena-demartini-on-helping-dogs-learn-to-be-alone/ ----------- Mentioned in this episode: Malena's latest book: Separation Anxiety in Dogs: Next Generation Treatment Protocols and Practices https://www.amazon.com/dp/1617812749?tag=thedogs00-20 Malena's first book: Treating Separation Anxiety in Dogs: Next Generation Treatment Protocols and Practices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08D4SX4DP?tag=thedogs00-20 Dr. Kara Moore's post on The Human Magnet Syndromehttps://drandyroark.com/secret-trick-handling-difficult-clients/ The Human Magnet Syndrome: https://www.amazon.com/dp/168350867X?tag=thedogs00-20 The Certified Separation Anxiety Trainer training program: https://malenademartini.com/for-trainers/separation-anxiety-training-certificate-program/---Partial Transcript:Annie:Tell me about what’s been going on, and maybe we can talk about the why in the future. And I guess just, for someone who’s just tuning in for the first time, maybe you should just introduce yourself with a brief bio.Malena:Sounds good. I’ll do that. So my name is Malena Demartini and I have been working exclusively with separation anxiety for over two decades now, just a little over two decades. I’m the author of two books on the topic of separation anxiety. The most recent one was released last year in 2020. And it is quite up to date with all of the research and understanding that we have about separation anxiety, which is tremendous. And it’s been quite a boon that we’ve got so much information, evidence and research coming forward about this topic.Full transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Some dogs really freak out about loud noises. Unfortunately, too often, new dog owners learn this on a day when scary sounds abound: July 4th. Annie talks to fellow trainer, Cheryl Gfrerer of Giffy Dog in St. Paul, MN, about her personal experiences dealing with a sound-sensitive rescue dog, and together they discuss protocols and practical approaches to helping dogs who are triggered by fireworks and the like. Find Cheryl Gfrerer online at giffydog.com and on Instagram @giffydog Like this podcast? Support it by leaving a 5-star review on iTunes, telling your friends, shopping in our online store, or signing up for Annie's mailing list. Learn more about School For The Dogs at SchoolForTheDogs.com.Mentioned in this episode: DAP (Dog Appeasing Pheremone) products by Adaptil https://storeforthedogs.com/collections/dog-appeasing-pheromone Thundershirt https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0029PY7SK?tag=thedogs00-20 Decoding Your Dog https://www.amazon.com/dp/0544334604?tag=thedogs00-20 Through A Dog's Ear (on Spotify) https://open.spotify.com/artist/1MsgeM3kAiAt5NTnasaIh1 Storm Defender Cape https://www.stormdefender.com/ Karolina Westlund blog post on fireworks and thunder phobias https://illis.se/en/eliminating-firework-and-thunder-phobia-in-dogs/ --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hello humans. In advance of the 4th of July, which is coming our way next week, I wanted to do an episode on preparing dogs to deal with fireworks and other auditory related stressors. And I was about to record an episode with all the protocol that I would suggest for preparing a dog for the 4th of July. And then I thought, I don't think I've worked specifically with dogs who have fireworks phobias and I've never had a dog like that, since I've been a trainer at least. And so I thought, it would be nice to talk to a trainer who has dealt with this issue in a more firsthand way. And because I'm also always happy to not have a podcast that's only my own voice, I decided to invite my colleague, Cheryl Gfrerer, who is a fellow Karen Pryor Academy graduate on to talk about how she has been working both with her own firework phobic dog, and helping rescue dog owners with their dogs who have similar phobias where she is based in St. Paul, Minnesota. So what you are going to hear is my conversation on this subject with her. Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a rebroadcast of Episode 29, which originally aired on 10/15/18. As much as we want our dogs to be social beings, the sad fact is that city streets are not an ideal place for leashed dogs to socialize. The close confines of the sidewalk can keep dogs from having enough space to greet each other properly, and leashes too often can become uncomfortably taught, leading a dog to think that even just the sight of another dog predicts yanking and choking.Like this podcast? Support it by leaving a 5-star review on iTunes, telling your friends, shopping in our online store, or signing up for Annie's mailing list. Learn more about School For The Dogs at SchoolForTheDogs.com. This episode addresses:-Avoiding other dogs on the street-Using the presence of other dogs on leash as a cue for your dog to pay attention to you-Providing your dog with appropriate off-leash socialization opportunities-Choosing which dogs you might let your dog greet-Helping your dog greet other dogs naturally and appropriately ... and moreNotes:7 things to consider before letting two dogs greet on leashhttps://schoolforthedogs.com/greetingsDogs In Need Of Spacehttps://dogsinneedofspace.com/The Yellow Dog ProjectMendota leash -- Annie's favorite, lightweight leashhttps://storeforthedogs.com/products/braided-leashWoof Shout Out: Dog adoption vests by Mimi Reidhttps://etsy.me/2PzKd9TFun dog fact of the day: NYC dog names (dogs named after fruits, vegetables, etc)https://nycedc.com/blog-entry/new-york-citys-dog-populationFollow School For The Dogs on Instagram: Instagram.com/schoolforthedogs Ask Annie: AnnieGrossman.com/ask --- Partial Transcript: Annie:Hey everyone! So today we are going to talk about dog-dog greetings, specifically dogs greeting other dogs on the street, and I'm going to suggest how you can teach your dog to greet another dog well and all the things you need to keep in mind when deciding whether or not you're going to let your dog greet another dog.But before I get into the thick of it, I wanted to give my number one suggestion, which is this: Don't do it. Don't let your dog greet other dogs on the street. That's it. Now the reason I'm not going to end it there is because I know that that sort of like a bummer piece of advice. People don't generally love the idea of shielding their dog from every other dog on the street. We like the idea of being able to walk our dogs and have it be a kind of social thing where they can say hi to the other dogs in the neighborhood and everyone's gonna get along. But here's some reasons why I generally advise against letting your dog interact with other dogs on the street.First of all, I see a lot of crazy dogs at School for the Dogs, all of us trainers do...Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/podcast/ Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie has always loved using the Treat & Train, a bare-bones, battery-operated remote-controlled treat dispenser, but she has found it particularly useful for her current situation: Being busy and also largely pregnant in a city apartment with a toddler and a rambunctious adolescent dog. She describes how she has turned the word "Dop" into a tertiary conditioned reinforcer that, with the help of the Treat & Train, she uses to get her dog Poppy to stop jumping, leave her daughter alone, and more. Through the end of June, get 10% off your purchase of a Treat and Train using code TREAT21 at http://Schoolforthedogs.com/TTAlso get 10% off the Revol crate and all of Diggs' products using code DIGGS21 at https://storeforthedogs.com/collections/diggsLike this episode? Please make sure to rate and review School For The Dogs Podcast on iTunes!---Partial Transcript:Annie:So a couple of weeks ago, in the episode I did about products that I think new dog owners can really benefit from, I mentioned that one of my favorite gadgets, probably my number one favorite dog training gadget, is the Treat and Train, which is a remote controlled treat dispenser that works on a radio frequency. There’s four different channels. It’s been around I think for about 20 years. I’ve been using it for about 10 years, and I’m always finding new fun ways to use it in training.It’s interesting cause it’s really, it’s not very slick looking. It doesn’t operate on Bluetooth. There are not a million options to it. There’s no camera, there’s no speaker. It’s a pretty bare bones gadget as far as dog gadgets go these days, but it is a workhorse. I have many Treat and Trains and they tend to last a really long time. They’re just battery operated. We use them at School for the Dogs, too.And anyway, since getting Poppy, I’ve been using it a lot, for a couple of reasons. One is simply that I’ve been pregnant the whole time we’ve had her. And I got pretty big pretty quickly. And I normally like to sit on the ground when I’m training. It’s just sort of how I’m most comfortable. And I’ve really had a hard time with my massive belly being able to sit on the ground these last few months.So it’s been sort of more comfortable for me to train her with a remote control, requires less movement overall from me. And I just fill the Treat and Train with dry food. I usually put in like her regular dry kibble. And then some like I mix some hard treats in with it. I like to use the tricky trainers, crunchy treats or tiny pieces of lamb lung or crumps naturals, which makes what they call mini trainers, which are these very small bits of beef liver.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

One of Annie's best friends is Ilana Alderman, an animal trainer who, over the last few years, has been using what she knows about behavior to help create fun games for her son -- games that enrich his brain and games that require her to consider consequences, appropriate rewards, and antecedent arrangements in order to help him engage in necessary behaviors using positive reinforcement rather than punishment or coercion. Episode features a special appearance by Magnolia Pedicone, who is 2.5 years old. Find Ilana on Instagram @baby_enrichment and on the web at Childcooperativecare.com. Find this blog post at: https://childcooperativecare.wordpress.com/2021/04/13/14-tips-for-brushing-your-toddlers-teeth-without-tears/---Partial Transcript:Annie:So there is this incredible person who I have been trying to get to be on the podcast for literally years. Now, she is one of the most interesting people I know, period. And certainly one of the most interesting animal trainers I know. Her approach to animal training fascinates me endlessly. And what’s hilarious is she is one of my very best friends, and the amount of pleading I’ve done with her to come on the podcast, I mean, it’s pretty ridiculous.And there are two reasons. One, she’s a full-time mom and especially in this last pandemic year really hasn’t had a lot of reliable alone time. And the other reason is she is more of a perfectionist than I am. I’m like, let’s just have a conversation. It’ll be awesome. We’ll just talk about you and animal training and how could it be bad, but she, you know, wants to know what questions I’m going to ask in advance and wants to be able to prepare.So it’s been, it’s been a struggle, but I think I have finally convinced her to come on as a guest. This incredible person is named Ilana Alderman. And sometimes on Mondays when I’ve been able to get my act together over the last few months, I’ve just read things that I have found online or that I have in actual real books, things that have impacted me or made me think about behavior and dogs and humans in new ways.And so in advance of her coming on School for the Dogs podcast as a guest in the next week or two, I’m hoping, I thought I would read this fabulous blog post she wrote about training her favorite animal to train to brush his teeth. And her favorite animal to train is her two year old son.She has this new blog called childcooperativecare.com. She’s also on Instagram @baby_enrichment. And she has been talking about parenting from the perspective of someone who has trained many species of animals and is now focusing on one species and one individual of that species above all.So I thought today I would just read her blog post, which she put up a couple months ago on this new blog. It is called “14 tips for brushing your toddler’s teeth without tears.” Of course, I will also link to this in the show notes. And if you go there, you can see how adorable her little boy is. And some video. Here we go:When I began brushing my son Eytan’s teeth, I made so many mistakes. I tried lots of things. Some worked, some didn’t. I had to get over a few setbacks when I rushed to get it done and forced it. Luckily kids are resilient and I was able to learn from my mistakes. I decided to share what has worked for me so that you can hopefully benefit from my experience and be inspired to come up with your own games.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Is masking wearing an example of human behavior being motivated by negative reinforcement? What if the government made better use of positive reinforcement to motivate people to get vaccinated? Annie looks at the current state of our COVID-impacted lives from the point of view of a reward-based, science-based dog trainer.Like this podcast? Please subscribe, rate and review on iTunes!---Partial Transcript:[music and intro]Annie:Hi. So I just wanted to share some dog training point of view type thoughts I’ve been having about the current state of our COVID/quarantining/social distancing world, which I think is, overall, I think we’re coming out of the most difficult part of this period. At least I hope so. And it raises some interesting behavioral, I dunno, problems, questions, I guess, that I’ve been thinking about in terms of dog training.Firstly, I’ve been thinking about masks and why people are still wearing masks. I actually was listening to an episode of All of It with Alison Stewart which I listened to pretty frequently on WNYC on this topic. And I almost called in, and then I hesitated because I always… I always wonder if people might roll their eyes, if I say, Hey, I’m a dog trainer, and this is what I think in dog training terms.But if you’re tuning into my podcast, I guess you do want to hear a dog trainer thinks about this situation in terms of human behavior! Anyway, in the segment with Alison people were saying some things that I hadn’t even thought of about why they continue wearing masks.Some were saying that it’s helped with their allergies. It’s helped them not get sick in general. Some have said that they enjoy the kind of anonymity it gives them on the street. Overall, I think most people are wearing masks if they are still wearing masks, because sort of like better safe than sorry. Easier to wear a mask than to deal with being potentially fatally sick because you did not wear a mask. And it’s relatively easy thing to do.It’s not a behavior that requires a massive amount of effort to engage in and it can keep others from harassing you on the street. Although, of course, that can go both ways. Some people are annoyed when people are around them wearing masks, and some people are annoyed when they’re not wearing masks.Overall. However, I think it’s a really good example of negative reinforcement at work. Negative reinforcement is negative not because it’s bad, but because it involves the removal of something. And a reinforcement is when a behavior is encouraged.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a bonus episode: A recording of a live Q and A.Join Annie Grossman for a live Q and A most Thursdays on Instagram @schoolforthedogs.Get alerted about the next one or ask a question in advance at http://schoolforthedogs.com/qanda.She also sometimes goes live to answer questions on Clubhouse. Find her there: @anniegrossman.Today she answered a listener's question about keeping her young dog from attacking her cat. ---Partial Transcript:Annie:A quick Thursday Q and A for you, if you’re here and you have a question, you’re welcome to ask it. But I have a question that I got at Anniegrossman.com/ask that I really liked that I thought I’d share.And I’m rocking a side ponytail today. What do you think of my…what do you think of this look? [laughs] It was the best quick hairdo I could come up with. If I was going to have to show my face. Does it look, does it look intentional? Hey there, Dustbin Terrier, great name. Hi, Bo…Uh, Pixel.Okay. So, this question comes from Melissa and, did I lose it? Okay. Melissa, who is from, St. Louis, Missouri and has a corgi, right? Pachi is almost six months old. He and my two year old cat Covu love to play around together, but sometimes they get too rough. Anytime this happens, I use the touch cue with my fingers and give him a tasty treat, but then he turns around and runs right back to Kovu. Sometimes it’s friendly, but it always escalates into a serious fight.And then she has like a side note part, which I want to talk about in a second, but let’s just talk about this part. So really great question. Actually I’m gonna read the second part now because I think it relates, so then she writes: I’ve also given a name to the touch cue, which is Revelio, I’m using Harry Potter spells as trick names, and he’s brilliant.Isn’t that cute? He comes when I call almost every time, but I guess play time with Covu, is more fun. Sometimes I grabbed his favorite toy to distract him from Covu, but again, that only lasts for so long. Do you have any ideas? Thank you so much for your podcast. I’m amazed with how much I’ve been able to train Pachi within a short amount of time. And especially with three syllable trick names such as Expelliarmus for “drop it.” [laughs] I was told that it was impossible to do by a local trainer. Again, thank you.So it’s funny, you know, I’ve heard people do say dogs only understand like one or two syllables, but I think that’s probably b******t. So good for you, Melissa, for going the Harry Potter spell name route. I think that’s very clever.But to go back to the issue of what’s going on here with the cat and the dog. I mean, Pachi is only six months old, so I would hope that you’re able to get him some really good play time. I think puppies ideally need a really good jaunt with other puppies every day, if that’s possible. It doesn’t need to be a dog park.Full transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie catalogs the 10 dog training products that have been most useful to her and her family in the 5 months since they adopted Poppy. Find most of these items in our shop: bit.ly/tenproductsShare your fave products! schoolforthedogs.com/community1. The Revol Dog Crate by Diggs Purchase from Diggs: schoolforthedogs.com/diggs Purchase from StoreForTheDogs: bit.ly/revolcrate2. The Squishy Face Flirt Pole bit.ly/flirtpoles Make your own: bit.ly/diyflirt3. Work To Eat Toys (take our Work To Eat toy quiz at schoolforthedogs.com/wte) bit.ly/wtetoys Previous episodes on Work To Eat Toys: Ep. 72: bit.ly/snufflematepisode Ep. 20: bit.ly/slowfoodbowlepisode4. Grass Patch Doggie Lawn schoolforthedogs.com/lawn (Get $5 off 1st order with code Affiliate5)5. Bully Grip Bully Stick Holder bit.ly/bullygrips Bully Sticks bit.ly/bullystix Previous episode on the Bully Grip: bit.ly/bullygrip Previous episode on Bully Sticks Ep. 79: bit.ly/bullystickepisode6. Liquid Treat Dispenser schoolforthedogs.com/ltd Previous episode on liquid treats bit.ly/liquidtreats7. Klimb storeforthedogs.com/products/klimb8. Treat Pouch SFTD's Treat Pouch bit.ly/2SGgGS0 Also mentioned: Silicone pouch bit.ly/3c1E1EV Home Trail Hip Pack by Ruffwear bit.ly/hometrailhippack Previous episode on the Home Trail Hip Pack Ep. 100: bit.ly/34tRroI9. Hands-Free Leashes Found My Animal Double-Ended Leash bit.ly/foundmy Also mentioned: Squishy Face Belt bit.ly/leashbelt10. Treat n' Train bit.ly/treattrain Also mentioned: Pet Tutor smartanimaltraining.com(Some of these links are affiliate links) Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Dr. Bob Bailey first started training animals professionally more than six decades ago, when he was hired by the military to train dolphins at sea. On that job, he first crossed paths with a couple whose work he'd read read about: Keller and Marian Breland. The Brelands had learned how to use operant conditioning to train animals while working as graduate students in BF Skinner's lab at the university of Minnesota, and were the first to bring the technology out of the lab. Keller's guide to using operant conditioning to train dolphins majorly influenced the career of Karen Pryor, who would later work to bring these force-free methods to dog owners. Dr. Bailey would joined forces with them, and eventually helmed their business, Animal Behavior Enterprises. In advance of a screening of Dr. Bailey's short film Patient like The Chipmunks, Annie interviews Dr. Bailey about his incredible career, the origins of "clicker training," the importance of learning how to train chickens, the progressiveness (or lack there of) in the world of modern dog training, and more.Sign up for the May 22nd screening (and info on buying the Patient Like The Chipmunks DVD)http://schoolforthedogs.com/baileyPhotos, manuals and details about Animal Behavior Enterprise and IQ Zoo exhibits:https://www3.uca.edu/iqzoo/Exhibits/exhibits.htmhttps://www3.uca.edu/iqzoo/documents/documents.htmRelated episodes:A brief history of modern dog traininghttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-brief-history-modern-dog-training-audio-lecture/id1355439730?i=1000514845966Reading of Page 9 of Dr. Bob Bailey's sitehttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-training-wisdom-from-page-9-dr-bob-baileys-website/id1355439730?i=1000515871429Reading of The Misbehavior of Organisms by Marian and Keller Brelandhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/misbehavior-organisms-brelands-impactful-article-on/id1355439730?i=1000518316750Reading of The ABCs of Behavior by Marian Breland https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-annie-reads-from-abcs-behavior-by-marian-breland/id1355439730?i=1000516823369---Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a follow up episode to last week's "journey" through the world of pet insurance. Annie mentions some companies she's heard good things about from listeners in the wake of the episode airing, and dives deep into what insurance will cover in terms of dealing with behavior issues. Her guest is trainer Briana Balogh, who is the Client Care Coordinator at Behavior Vets. https://behaviorvetsnyc.com/our-team/briana-b/Looking to get some help with house training? Download our free guide at http://schoolforthedogs.com/house---Partial Transcript:[intro and music]Annie:Hey there. So this is sort of a follow-up last week’s mammoth pet insurance episode. I just wanted to mention or reiterate a few things and respond to some feedback I’ve gotten. And then I do have an interesting interview to share.But I just wanted to reiterate that I think it’s a good idea to get pet insurance as early in your dog’s life as possible, because I don’t think there are any companies out there that are really gonna cover preexisting conditions. So you want to get a plan that you like before your dog or cat has any conditions.And the sooner that you start out with one company, and the more time you may have to stop working with that company, try a different company, et cetera, et cetera, once your dog or cat has any kind of pre-existing conditions, you’re going to kind of be locked into working with whichever brand you’re with because you’re not going to be able to switch and get that stuff covered.If you do have a dog who has a pre-existing condition, definitely check out the pet assure discount code, which I talk about in the episode, which is probably the best option in those cases.I also got some feedback that I was a little dismissive of companies that offered different kinds of insurance. And I think that’s totally true. I was just trying to narrow the field a little bit, set some parameters, arbitrary as they may be. But a couple of people have reached out to me for instance, and said that they have Nationwide and said they’re really happy with Nationwide.I ran a quote and it looks like Nationwide would cover just about everything that the the company I ultimately chose would cover. They don’t have tons of options to toggle and choose from, which I actually really like. I think it simplifies things. And the quote that I got from them looks like it would be about what I’m going to end up paying per month with a plan I chose with the company I chose, except the deductible would be lower.I have a thousand dollar deductible. The nationwide one would be 250. The wellness visit would still be covered. And they would cover 90% of bills. Although the plan I got is a hundred percent of bills. So I think definitely that’s one worth checking out.And as I did mention in the last episode, if you already have insurance that you like, a lot of people already have Nationwide for their home insurance or renter’s insurance or car insurance or whatever. You might be able to get a deal bundling your insurances together. So again, that is one of my major recommendations.Full Transcript at SchoolfrotheDogs.com/podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie wanted to get pet insurance for her young dog, Poppy, and decided to dive deep into researching all the options out there -- and oh boy, there sure are a lot of options! In this episode she speaks to several industry experts and company representatives, looks at reviews, reads the fine print, and, after narrowing down the options, discusses the matter with her husband, Jason, whose opinion about what to get ends up being a little different than hers. ----- Pet Insurance comparison: https://www.caninejournal.com/pet-insurance-comparison/ Companies mentioned in this episode: The Dog Tale https://thedogtale.com/ Wagmo https://wagmo.io/ Crum and Forster https://www.cfpetinsurance.com/ Pumpkin https://www.pumpkin.care/ ASPCA Pet Insurance https://www.aspcapetinsurance.com/ Hartville Pet Insurance https://www.hartvillepetinsurance.com/ Lemonade https://www.lemonade.com/pet Pet Assure https://www.petassure.com/ Eusoh Sign up for Eusoh through School For The Dogs and get 30% percent off the monthly membership fee for life at http://schoolforthedogs.com/eusoh ---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hello humans. So this episode really has been a challenge to put together for several reasons. It’s about pet insurance, and I was inspired to research pet insurance because of our young dog Poppy coming into our family.But there’s a lot of numbers when you’re looking at pet insurance. There’s a lot of choices, a lot of boring, fine print. So rather than just figuring out what I could from websites, I tried to get representatives of a bunch of different insurance companies on the phone, which was very helpful. But I was still left with a lot of options and a lot of information. So before I play the episode, I just wanted to share a few takeaways and explain or point out some things that I think are missing from this episode.First of all, there are a lot of pet insurance companies that I did not discuss in this episode. And that’s not because they’re not good. In fact, they might be great. They might be better than the ones I ended up focusing on. I’ll explain how I ended up picking the five companies that I focus on in a little bit, although it ended up sort of accidentally being more than five.But I just wanted to mention, you know, I’ve heard, I’ve heard a lot about Trupanion, Happy Paws, Embrace. Embrace is one, actually, I do kind of mention in the episode for a funny reason. So perhaps there could be a part two to this episode. And if you are using one of the companies I do mention, or one of the ones I don’t mention, I am super curious to hear about your thoughts on your pet insurance.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

As far as Annie knows, there is only one other female-owned dog training storefront in Manhattan: Amanda Gagnon Dog Training. Both Amanda and Annie also have toddlers. Annie reached out to Amanda, whose daughter is a couple years older than Annie's, for advice on how to approach parenting in a reward-based, non-coercive way. Learn more about Amanda at http://www.amandagagnondogtraining.com/Canisius College's Masters in Anthrozoologyhttps://www.canisius.edu/academics/programs/anthrozoologyOh Crap! Potty Training: Everything Modern Parents Need to Know to Do It Once and Do It Righthttps://amzn.to/2QCvbGc---Partial Transcript:[Intro and music]Annie:So today I am here with Amanda Gagnon, who, you know, you and I actually have so much in common that I feel like this conversation could probably go on for five hours, like some Joe Rogan Experience episode or something. And we’ve actually never even chatted in real time before, so it’s pretty exciting that we’re getting to talk at all. But why don’t you sort of give a brief introduction to who you are, and then we can talk about some of the things we have in common and some of the things that I think I could probably learn from you.Amanda Gagnon:Absolutely. Yeah. I’ve been looking forward to this too. This is going to be a lot of fun. I, yeah, so I’m a dog trainer. I have a business in Manhattan, which is something we definitely have right in line with each other. I’ve been dog training for about a decade now. I’m also an anthrozoologist. That’s where I got my graduate degree in, which means I studied the relationship between people and animals. Obviously I focus on dogs and humans, and I really am particularly interested in dogs and humans and foreign cultures.So I spend my days typically training dogs and reading lots of books and talking to lots of people about how they feel about dogs based on where they live and who they’re around. So it’s a pretty fun life, I think, because I love dogs.Annie:That is so interesting. So where did you study anthrozoology? If only I had known that that was a thing one could study, but tell me more.Amanda:Tell me about it. You know, I spent so many years looking at animal behavior graduate programs because it seems like that’s what I should do. And every time I would read the curriculum, I would feel like it was missing something, and then I came across the anthrzoology curriculum. It’s at Canisius college, which is upstate New York and it included so much about the human side of the coin. And I realized, Oh, of course that’s what’s missing from a lot of animal behavior, the human animal.I didn’t get into dogs just because I love dogs. I got into dogs because I liked the relationship that we have with them. I think it’s really unique and cool and interesting. So yeah. Canisius College, it’s a really cool program if anyone’s interested in that. It’s partially in person, or at least it used to be before the pandemic, and it is partially remote. So it’s a pretty accessible thing. It’s a lot of work, but it’s a pretty accessible thing for people like you and me who work full time.Full Transcript at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Following a tragic loss in her family this week, Annie, worried about how the death will impact the health of her grief-stricken loved ones, remembered the first chapter from the 2012 book Zoobiquity, on the potentially-fatal heart condition that was discovered separately by veterinarians and by human cardiologists: Broken Heart Syndrome. It's called Takotsubo (when it effects humans) and Capture Myopathy (when in other species). The chapter goes on to talk about the "One Health" movement and to argue that human doctors (aka veterinarians who only work with one species) could learn something from those who work with medical conditions in other animals, and encourages readers to be more humble about humans' place in the animal kingdom.Zoobiquity: The Astonishing Connection Between Human and Animal Health by Barbara Natterson-Horowitz and Kathryn Bowershttps://amzn.to/32Yd4NeFeatured "Black-chinned emperor tamarin (S. i. imperator).jpg" by Kevin Barret is licensed under CC BY-SA 2.0---Partial Transcript:Annie:Yesterday, my step-brother died in his sleep. He was only 41. He was in good health. It seems like it, it may have just been a sudden heart attack. We don’t really know what happened. But it’s just been a huge, huge bomb to my family. It’s such a tragedy. He was a wonderful person. Wonderful, wonderful father. He and his wife had been together 21 years. They were foster parents to many little children, and they had two kids of their own who are just two and four. And he was such a great dad to these kids.He and my stepfather were extremely close. They were really best friends. He’s my stepfather’s only kid. And, yeah, everyone’s just taking it really hard. And, and yesterday on the phone with my mom off and on all day, at one point, she said to me, I’m really worried about him, about my stepfather, that I’m worried he’s not gonna make it through this.And I wanted to say, Oh, you know, this is awful and terrible, but he’ll pull through. But the truth is, I felt her fear. And I thought of anecdotes, people I know or people I’ve heard about who have seemed to die of heartbreak. I have a friend whose parents were together 70 years and her mother who was in fine health died within, I think within 12 hours of her father dying. And then a few years ago when one of my favorite actresses, Carrie Fisher died, one of my other favorite actresses, her mother died the very next day.And, you know, one might say that all of this is a coincidence, but the other thing I thought about was this really interesting book I read a few years ago called Zoobiquity. And it is by a cardiologist, I think a cardiologist psychiatrist. Her name is Barbara Matterson Horowitz, also written with Catherine Bowers. And this isn’t about dog training, but it is about animal behavior, both mental and physical, this book. It’s really about the overlap between specifically veterinary medicine and human medicine.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This weekend (Saturday April 24th at 4PM ET) we are hosting a screening of the short film Patient Like The Chipmunks, by Drs. Bob Bailey and Miriam Breland-Bailey, followed by a conversation and Q and A session with Dr. Bailey himself. In advance of this event, Annie has recently read aloud some of Dr. Bailey's work. Today, she reads a famous essay written not by him, but by his business partners: the late Keller Breland and Marian Breland (who would later married Dr. Bailey, hence the hyphenated name). This article, The Misbehavior Of Organisms, first appeared in American Psychology in 1961, and was titled in response to BF Skinner's book, The Behavior Of Organisms. The Brelands had worked closely with Skinner as graduate students, and were the first to bring his laboratory work into the commercial realm. There, working with over 100 species of animals, they discovered that it just isn't always possible to operantly condition a behavior. The reason? Sometimes, an animal's baked-in instincts take over and can't easily be overcome. Dr. Bailey's site: http://www.behavior1.com/Other episodes about Dr. Bailey Training Wisdom From Page 9 of Dr. Bob Bailey's Websitehttps://anchor.fm/dogs/episodes/Bonus-Training-wisdom-from-page-9-of-Dr--Bob-Baileys-website-Plus-Join-Annie-for-a-film-screening-and-Q-and-A-with-Dr--Bailey-on-April-24th-eu9mmoThe ABC of Behavior By Marian Breland-Bailey and Bob Baileyhttps://anchor.fm/dogs/episodes/Bonus-Annie-reads-from-The-ABCs-of-Behavior-by-Marian-Breland-Bailey-and-Bob-Bailey-from-The-Dog-Trainers-Resources-by-The-APDT-Chronicle-Of-The-Dog-euonns---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hello humans. So I’ve posted a few Bonus episodes in the last few months that are me reading things relating to dog training and animal behavior, the science of behavior. Reading aloud short things that have impacted the way I think about behavior.And I have read a couple of things in the last few weeks by Dr. Bob Bailey in anticipation of the screening and Q and A we are doing with Bob Bailey this weekend. You can still sign up at schoolforthedogs.com/Bailey. It is taking place this Saturday, April 24th, at 4:00 PM Eastern. We will be showing this rarely seen, really interesting short film by Bob Bailey called Patient like the Chipmunks. And he will then be joining us after that for a conversation with me and a Q and A.Bob Bailey really is a Titan in the field of animal training. And this film talks about his rather extraordinary career, his business Animal Behavior Enterprises, which he started with his late wife, Marian Breland Bailey, and her late husband Keller Breland. And talks about sort of the history of operant conditioning from BF Skinner’s lab through today.And it shows off some of the really entertaining and inspiring work that came out of Animal Behavior Enterprises, including their IQ Zoo, which was basically an amusement park they created of trained animals. It talks about some of their work with the military. Anyway, just really fascinating stuff.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

School For The Dogs is currently taking applicants for its six month Professional Course, which begins June 1! In this episode, Annie responds to a listener who is interested in becoming a dog trainer, but is worried that she may end up in a program that is a scam... She describes the evolution of School For The Dogs' Professional Course, discusses some some others, and talks about the many different paths people take towards becoming a professional dog trainer. She also answers a listener's question about a young dog who is resource guarding her food. Apply to the School For The Dogs Professional Course before May 1 at http://schoolforthedogs.com/professionalcourseAlso mentioned in this episode: Kennelwood Academy - https://kennelwoodacademy.com/The Academy of Pet Careers - https://www.theacademyofpetcareers.com/Animal Behavior College - http://animalbehaviorcollege.comJean Donaldson's Academy For Dog Trainers - https://www.academyfordogtrainers.com/Victoria Stillwell Academy - https://positively.com/dog-training/become-a-dog-trainer/---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hi, this is a bonus Q and A episode. I try to go live every Thursday on the School for the Dogs’s Instagram account. If you would like to be alerted when I’m going to go live, or if you’d like to answer a question in advance, go to SchoolfortheDogs.com/qanda. Thanks for being here.So today’s question comes from Melissa, who lives in St. Louis. She has a corgi, Pembroke Welsh corgi named Patchy. And Melissa wrote:Actually, I have a question that isn’t about my pop, your cast and tips have been extremely helpful so far. I was actually wondering, where would you suggest someone who wants to get into the field of dog training go? I’ve looked into the Karen Pryor Academy, but there aren’t any nearby locations to St. Louis, Missouri. There is the Academy of pet careers, which costs $20,000 for a 180 day class. There is the Kennelwood Academy for $14,000.I really want to get into this field, and I enjoy using a lot of your techniques on my puppy with the clicker. But I’m trying to find something more affordable and something that isn’t a scam to just get my money. I also looked into Animal Behavior College, which is almost all online and that’s roughly $5,000. I look forward to hearing from you.Well, great question, particularly for today, because we have just opened up our dog training professional program which I think might be a great fit for you, Melissa. It is a six month program. We have been running professional programs at School for the Dogs since 2017. And I believe about half of our trainers came through our professional program. Most of them knowing little or nothing about training before that. And now they are honestly some of the finest trainers I know. So for that reason, I’m pretty proud of this program.Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a rebroadcast of a previous episode-- we're sharing it because shaping is today's challenge in our Dog Training in 21 Days Challenge on Instagram. Join the challenge! Tag us and use use hashtag #dt21days. Through the end of this month, use code DT21DAYS to get our full Dog Training In 21 Days Course for free at http://schoolforthedogs.com/dt21days. Special announcements: We are now taking applications to our Dog Training Professional Program, which is fully remote this year. If you're interested in becoming a dog trainer -- and maybe even working for School For The Dogs some day -- visit http://schoolforthedogs.com/professionalcourse. Applications are due May 1. Also: Do you have pet insurance? Tell us about it and get $5 off your next purchase at http://storeforthedogs.com. Go to: https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/petinsuranceAbout this episode: "Shaping" is simply the process of breaking a behavior down to its smallest components and slowly raising your criteria in order to build new behaviors. By reinforcing successive approximations, it's possible to train dogs to do almost anything they are physically capable of doing! In this episode, Annie goes over some key things to think when shaping a new behavior, and describes how to shape a dog to go to a mat, or what she calls a "sticky spot." A dog who knows how to go to a mat will make an excellent guest at holiday dinners: You can "shape" a pup to have a specific spot where he will have learned to stay put and be calm, no matter how good that stuffing smells!Transcript and show notes at: https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/episode-33-how-to-shape-your-dog-to-go-to-a-mat-and-to-be-a-polite-thanksgiving-guest/ Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

We've been running a challenge on Instagram this month based on our Dog Training in 21 Days course! Day 17 is teaching stand. This is an often-overlooked behavior that is a great thing to teach both because it'll hone your training chops and also because it'll keep your dog from just guessing that after you ask for a sit you usually want a down, and vice versa. Sometimes... you're going to want a different stationary behavior! You might also want a dog to stand during grooming, or if you're ever doing any kind of commercial work or modeling with a dog, or if you're in the dog show world. Jump in and join the challenge on Instagram! Tag @schoolforthedogs! Get the full Dog Training in 21 Days course free through 4/30 at http://schoolforthedogs.com/dt21days. Use code DT21DAYS at checkout. Like this podcast? Go to iTunes, rate us five stars, and leave a review! Thanks!---Partial Transcript:Annie:So this guy goes to a dog trainer with a dog who he says has separation anxiety. And he says, the weird thing is when we leave, when he cries, it sounds like Toyota. And the trainer says, you know, that’s actually not that unusual. Tell me when you come home and he farts, what does that sound like? And the dog owner is like, actually, when we come home and he farts and it sounds like Ppppprius. And the trainer says, well that is strange. Usually absence makes the fart go Honda.[Intro and music]Annie:Frequent listeners will know that we are in the middle of running our Dog Training in 21 days challenge on Instagram. It is based on our on demand Dog Training in 21 Days course, which you can get for free, the whole thing, either by following along on Instagram, through April 21st. Or you can just get the whole course at once at schoolforthedogs.com/DT21days, use code DT21 days at checkout. And you can get it for free, between now and the end of the month.And tomorrow’s challenge is teaching a stand. And teaching stand is one of my favorite behaviors to teach for a few reasons. For one thing, dogs stand all the time.. Pretty much as often as they’re sitting or lying down, those are usually the three big stable, non-movement based behaviors dogs engage in. And while it’s very common to teach sit and down, stand often gets left out, but it’s useful for so many reasons.Sometimes you need a dog to be standing for whatever reason. Especially, you know, I’ve done a fair bit of commercial work, and that’s certainly a time when you might want a dog who not only knows how to stand, but can stand on a mark, can stand for a duration, whatever length of time you want the dog to stand for. Like stand, stay.Certainly in the world of show dogs, quite important to have a dog who knows to stand and stay. Although in my experience, this is not usually a behavior that’s given any kind of specific verbal or visual cue by the human, but it certainly could be.Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

There are two types of conditioning we use in dog training: Operant (aka learning by consequence, or "Skinnerian Conditioning") and Classical (aka learning by association, or "Pavlovian Conditioning"). When we teach new behaviors, we tend to focus on Operant Conditioning. In this episode, Annie talks about the differences between these two kinds of teaching/learning, and reveals how, in many cases, Classical Conditioning can produce very reliable behaviors with little effort. This is a rebroadcast of an episode that originally aired in 2018. We are sharing it as it relates to today's challenge in the Dog Training In 21 Days challenge we are running this month on Instagram. Join us, and tag us in your videos! Get access the entire 21 Days Course for free through the end of April at http://schoolforthedogs.com/dt21days; code DT21DAYS at checkout.Notes: AnnieGrossman.com/podcast26 https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/teaching-come-and-drop-it-using-classical-conditioning/ Music: "Time Is On My Side" cover by Toast GardenSponsor: Train your inbox using SANEBOX! Get $15 off at SchoolForTheDogs.com/Sane Like this podcast? Leave a review on iTunes at SchoolForTheDogs.com/Listen Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

In advance of School For The Dogs April 24th screening of Bob Bailey's short film, Patient Like The Chipmunks, Annie is reading aloud some works by Dr. Bailey and his late wife, Dr. Marian Breland-Bailey. Today she is reading from their 2001 article, The ABCs of Behavior, from The Trainer's Resource: The APDT Chronicle Of The Dog. The ABCs are Antecedent, Behavior, and Consequences. Sign up for the screening at http://schoolforthedogs.com/bailey Purchase The Dog Trainer's Resource by The APDT Chronicle Of The Dog - https://amzn.to/2Rv3ZsU---Partial TranscriptAnnie:The Association of Professional Dog Trainers puts out a quarterly magazine which you can subscribe to digitally or in print. Or, you also get it if you become a member of the Association of Professional Dog Trainers. It is called Chronicle of the Dog. And it contains some excellent essays about dog training, about learning theory, about the business of dog training.They have put out some, what do you call it? Like anthologies. Yeah, I guess anthologies. And I have one of them that’s called the Dog Trainer’s Resource. It’s from 2007, it’s a collection of their essays and there’s so much good stuff in here. I think they’ve put out three or four of these collections of essays that appeared in the magazines.And honestly, if you buy these collections on Amazon, you can find them used, I find, usually for like six or $7. So you could buy like all of their collections probably for the amount that you would pay for a single year of quarterly magazines from them. So word to the wise. But definitely look into becoming a member you can do so apdt.com.Fun, fun, little known fact , they actually kicked me out. I was a member. I paid my a hundred dollars a year or whatever it was. And they kicked me out and then lobbied me to come back. Although I must've just been on some lapsed membership list, lobbied me to come back or continue to lobby me and actually to come back every few months saying we miss you, which I always think is funny. Cause they kicked me out for reasons I'm not going to get into right now, but maybe one day in the future, I will. It had nothing to do with dog abuse or anything like that.Anyway today I wanted to read an essay from my copy of the dog trainer's resource, which I love. The last few Mondays I've been doing these readings reading things that I've learned from that I'd like to share. Last week, I read from Bob Bailey's website, and this week I'm also going to read something by Bob Bailey. And next week I'm going to read something again by Bob Bailey.This is because on April 24th, at 4:00 PM Eastern, we are going to be offering a screening of a short film he made on the history of operant conditioning called Patient Like the Chipmunks. And after that, I will be hosting a Q and A with him, pretty excited about this. He is something of a legend in the world of animal training, living legend. You can sign up at schoolforthedogs.com/Bailey. All of the proceeds will be going to the Marian Breland Bailey scholarship fund.Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Longtime East Villager Mike Wolf wondered into School For The Dogs a few years ago and... never left. Mike started out as a walker with us, and now leads puppy playtimes, School Yards, does Day School sessions with us and also does Day Training sessions with our clients. He was one of our first apprentices, and is currently completing our Professional Course. Interested in becoming a professional dog trainer? Our next Professional Course will be held entirely online! Interested? Fill out an application at http://schoolforthedogs.com/professionalcourse21---Partial Transcript:[intro and music]Annie:Glad to have you on School for the Dogs podcast, you have been a School for the Dogs employee and, et al, for a long time now.Mike:More than three years.Annie:Oh my goodness.Mike:I know. If we can still be measuring time, feels a little arbitrary, but.Annie:So, I know a little bit about how you came to us, but why don’t you share a little bit about how you ended up at School for the Dogs, and then we can talk about like the stuff that you’ve been doing work-wise.Mike:Okay. Well, I don’t consider it a very direct path. It’s either a third or a fourth career for me, depending upon what you consider a career. But I worked in the music industry for like 25 years and that led to a job in music journalism as a writer and editor.Annie:You worked at record stores, didn’t you?Mike:Oh I worked at record stores, that was a bit more recently actually. But starting in the late nineties, I began writing professionally, which was a surprise to me because I had never gone to journalism school or anything like that. But I had a background in working in music. So I guess I just had a certain type of info or a certain type of a background.Annie:What were you doing in the world of music?Mike:In the world’s music. Well, let’s see, I started at college radio, which doesn’t sound too unique, but it quickly led to an internship at a record label. This was all in Minneapolis, Minnesota. In the indie eighties, by the way. And so the internship at a record label led to a job at the record label. That led to a part-time job at the record label next door, that led to also deejaying at a club downtown, that led to full-time work at one of the record labels, deejaying at a club. DJing at radio city.Like I was doing, I was really lucky. I had a ton of really fun experiences in a fun, really fun music city, Minneapolis from like the mid eighties to the mid nineties. Then I had a two year detour in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, still doing music stuff, working for a record label that’s based in New Zealand.And then I made the move to New York and really tumbled into — like, I dunno, it’s definitely a function of my privilege, but I’ve recently just kind of stumbled from one job to the other and from one career to the next.I very suddenly with very little writing experience began working full-time at Time Out New York at the beginning of 2000. Which was really a really cool and overwhelming time to be involved in media in New York. And music was always kind of just like this overwhelming, engulfing experience. To be a big music fan and to get to work in the music industry, I was very lucky.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a bonus episode-- a rebroadcast of Episode 19. It covers how to teach a dog to sit using a bit of a lure and a novel cue: A snap. This exercise is today's challenge in the Dog Training in 21 Days challenge we're running right on Instagram! Join us there for instructions, demonstrations, and more. Get the full Dog Training in 21 Days course for free through the end of April at http://schoolforthedogs.com/dt21days; use code DT21DAYS at checkout. This episode originally aired on August 6, 2018. Newsflash: Your dog already knows how to sit! But he may not know the cue you want to associate with that behavior. Annie breaks down how to use the "capturing" technique to teach "sit" anew and to add a novel cue. She covers:-The downsides of "luring" a behavior or "molding" it-The trap of trying to teach a behavior by asking for it repeatedly-The difference between a "cue" and a "command"-How to add a cue-The never-ending process of "shaping" a behavior-How to fade a lure and turn it into a cue---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hi, this is a bonus episode that is a replay of an episode I recorded in the summer of 2018 on teaching a dog to sit using the cue of a finger snap. This is kind of my favorite way to quickly teach a sit and incorporate what is usually a novel cue into the equation early on. I tried to break it down clearly and quickly in this podcast episode.And I’m reposting it today because this is the assignment for today’s challenge. We are running our Dog Training in 21 days course as a 21 day challenge. Right now you can learn more on Instagram and hop on into the challenge. It’s all right if you didn’t start on day one, we would love to have you start today.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/ Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Bonus episode! Annie reads some casually-written but oh-so-important training tips from the website belonging to Dr. Bob Bailey, behavior1.com. Annie will be showing Dr. Bailey's film on the history of his company, Animal Behavior Enterprises, and the history of operant conditioning, and then hosting a conversation with Dr. Bailey, on April 24th at 4PM Eastern. Sign up at http://schoolforthedogs.com/bailey Dr. Bob Bailey is an animal trainer, inventor, designer, writer, teacher, diver, and photographer. He is the widower of B.F. Skinner's graduate student, Dr. Marian Breland Bailey. All proceeds from the screening will go to the Marian Breland Bailey Memorial Fund at Arkansas' Henderson State University. About the Baileyshttp://www.behavior1.com/page8.htmlPage 9 http://www.behavior1.com/page9.htmlMore about Patient Like The Chipmunkshttp://www.behavior1.com/page5.htmlDr. Sophia Yin's video about Chicken Camp with Dr. Bob Bailey from 2000https://archive.org/details/Chicken_Training_Camp_2000---Partial Transcript:Annie:Bob Bailey, or I should say Dr. Bob Bailey, is a trainer who lives in Arkansas, and I’m kind of obsessed with him. He was both business partner and husband to Marian Breland Bailey, also Dr. Marian Breland Bailey, who together with her first husband, Keller Breland and Bob Bailey who came to work with them before Keller’s untimely death in the early 1960s, the three of them built this company called Animal Behavior Enterprises, which did so many really unique things in the realm of animal training. They train animals mostly for commercial purposes to do things that we’re pretty incredible.One thing they did was create these kind of like, I guess maybe you call it like a diorama with moving parts in it for animals. And they train like over a hundred different species of animals, but like an animal in this Lucite, basically Skinner box, they would train these animals to do all kinds of crazy funny tricks, like play basketball, play baseball, dance, play tic-tac-toe.And I actually, and then they would ship these all around the world, and I actually grew up at, the arcade that I used to go to as a kid in Manhattan had a dancing chicken and a tic-tac-toe playing chicken that I was pretty obsessed with. Actually my whole family, we all loved the tic-tac-toe chicken and would discuss the tic-tac-toe chicken. Never in my childhood did I think about where this chicken came from and whether the chicken was actually trained or how it was trained totally did not cross my mind.I guess if I thought about it, I would have thought the dancing chicken was like being electrocuted and that’s why it was jumping or something, although I was completely off base. Anyway, these amusements were part of what Animal Behavior Enterprises did among other things, which included training animals for the military, training animals for film.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Touchscreen devices can be used to teach a nose touch, which is a basic, building-block behavior that School For The Dogs' trainers teach almost every dog they work with. A nose touch can be taught with a person's hands and a dog's nose; the person clicks when the dog's nose touches the screen, and then the dog receives a reward. Using a touchscreen device and one of a handful of apps, you can take the clicker out of the equation and your dog's nose will register a sound when it makes contact with the screen, essentially doing the job of any good marker signal. Annie discusses the origins of her use of touchscreens with dogs and talks about some of the more advanced work that can be done with screens, such as teaching a dog to read, teaching cue differentiation, and more.Episode on teaching touch: https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/episode-60-the-most-important-behavior-youll-ever-train/More on using touch screens:Dogs Take Selfies Too - https://anniegrossman.com/2013/11/training/dogs-take-selfies-too-48370/8225/Teaching Dogs to Use iPads in London - https://anniegrossman.com/2014/03/training/school-for-the-dogs-studies-abroad-teaching-dogs-to-use-ipads-in-london-80528/8330/Teaching Pets to Use iPads in NYC - https://anniegrossman.com/2013/08/training/idog-teaching-pets-to-use-ipads-in-nyc-56551/8127/The First App Made Specifically for Canines - https://anniegrossman.com/2013/09/science/app-for-dog-the-first-app-made-specifically-for-canines-79647/8190/Three Apps Your Dog Can Use to Make Art - https://anniegrossman.com/2013/12/training/3-apps-your-dog-can-use-to-make-art-35313/8246/Apps mentioned: Doodle Buddy - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/doodle-buddy-paint-draw-app/id313232441App for Dog - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/app-for-dog-free-puppy-painting-button-clicker-training/id968928583Yes No App - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yes-no-from-i-can-do-apps/id635649909---Partial Transcript:[Intro and music]Annie:A few years ago, back when Kate and I were running School for the Dogs out of my living room, in 2013 I got a spate of prank phone calls. They might’ve all been from the same person. I don’t know. One was someone asking me if I could help them teach their dog to navigate the worldwide web, because right now he only knew how to do one thing online and it was to watch porn.Another caller asked if I could teach the dog to use the remote control. That one I actually, I thought was legit for, for half a second. I said, I guess I could teach a dog to use a TV remote, but why would you need to do that? And he said, well, I’d like it if he could change the channel when I’m masturbating.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Good Dog Trainers will refer to giving a "cue" vs giving a dog a "command." A cue implies an opportunity; a command implies a threat. It just occurred to Annie that it's sort of like the difference between getting a special offer you can take advantage of and getting a bill you have to pay: Both result in the behavior of you spending money, but in one case you're engaging in that behavior because of positive reinforcement, and in the other, negative reinforcement. This may be a useful way to help the uninitiated understand the difference between cues and commands.---Partial Transcript:Annie:I was just answering a question from someone. It’s actually for a presentation I’m putting together and Bailey who I work with doing Petcademy, which offers online training to people who are adopting and fostering dogs from a number of shelters throughout the country. Anyway Bailey and I are doing a presentation for a company about Petcademy. And there was a question in the deck about understanding a cue versus understanding a command. And I just thought of a good analogy that I wanted to share.So, we as good dog trainers tend to use the word cue instead of the word command when we’re referring to telling a dog what something is called. If I am teaching my dog to sit, when I say, sit, then sit is the cue. If I am teaching a dog to sit at the curb on the street, then the curb is the cue. And really there are cues all around us all the time, all around dogs all the time, indicating that it would be a good idea if you do X, Y, or Z. So cues are not just something that come from us human beings.But traditionally in dog training over the decades, the word command has been used. When I first started at Karen Pryor Academy in 2010, I remember answering homework questions with referring to giving a command to a dog and was corrected that it was a cue. And I thought, I think at first I thought like, Oh, well, I guess it’s about being nice. Like, I kind of reduced it down to that. Cue sounds nicer.But really a cue and a command are different things, because one is encouraging a behavior by saying, Hey, you, should you choose to engage in this behavior, something good is going to happen. Which is, you know, positive reinforcement, positively reinforcing behavior, adding something to the equation in order to encourage the behavior.And a command is saying, do this or else, negative reinforcement. If you don’t engage in this behavior, I’m going to take something away from you. Something bad is going to happen in the form of something desirable being taken away.And I was thinking, you know what it’s like, is like the difference between an offer and the bill. If you see a special offer for something, a sale for something you’re looking for, a deal, an ad that that results in you spending money, kind of like you responded to a cue. You didn’t have to take the offer. You chose to take the offer. The result is that you spent money.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Warning: If you're not a very nerdy aspiring dog trainer or a science geek when it comes to the history of the study animal behavior, this episode might not be for you! You've been warned. Annie talks about the evolution of dog training, starting with hypotheses about the domestication of dogs, the rise of the "pet" dog in the late 1800s, covering the work of Pavlov and Watson in the early 1900s, the birth of clicker training in Skinner's lab in the middle of the century, up through the rise of dominance-based trainers on TV in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. This is the audio from a lecture Annie put together for the School For The Dogs Professional Course. School For The Dogs has been training up dog trainers for four years, and is in the process of putting much of this curriculum online for aspiring dog trainers. If you're interested in learning more about the SFTD Professional Course and would like to be notified when it launches, email [email protected]. ---Partial Transcript:Annie:So this is a bonus episode that is really for listeners who are super nerdy about dog training. You’ve been warned if you end up finding it’s boring, you might not be nerdy enough. I recorded this for our professional course which we have been building out and really putting the finishing touches on. We’ve had a professional course for a few years, but we’ve been working on putting the majority of it online with both on demand and live interactive parts. If you’re interested in learning more and being notified as soon as it officially launches, just email me, [email protected] and I will give you more info.But yeah, so this is the audio of this lecture. There is a PowerPoint and video, too, which obviously you’re not going to experience because this is a podcast. But I thought I put it up here, because when I first got interested in dog training, I really didn’t have any context for any of it. So I put this presentation together to try and give some context, and answer the question where did, for instance, where did clicker training come from? And why isn’t it more widely used, and was it just recently invented et cetera, et cetera.So, hope that if you are an aspiring dog trainer or are just a geek about this kind of stuff as I am, I hope you will get something out of this. All right, here you go. Oh, and by the way, if I sound like I’m talking a little bit slowly or whatever, it’s because I’m going through slides while I’m talking. So that is that is my full disclaimer. Now go forth and listen.This lecture is going to be a brief history of dog training. This is not meant to be a comprehensive history, but rather something that touches on both the last century-ish of dog training and with an attempt to put it into the larger context of dogs in the human world over time.Did humans really domesticate dogs? We tend to have this assumption in our culture that domestication is something that we did to dogs. Actually, the more likely scenario is probably one of co-evolution, with natural selection favoring dogs who could exist in the human realm, favoring dogs who were less fearful of humans and more likely to engage in behaviors that human liked. Or have performed some kind of job for humans. The most basic job probably being eating a family’s scraps, which would reduce the amount of disease carrying vermin.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

On April 1 we are starting the Dog Training in 21 Days Challenge (#DT21DAYS). We’re using the hashtag on Instagram but if you don’t have IG, you can still participate! Each day there will be a simple challenge for you to complete. They are outlined below and we will be posting about them each day on Instagram as well as sharing what we are doing for it on Instagram Stories. Please join, get your dog excited about learning and flex those dog training muscles!To participate: Post a video or image everyday for 21 days showing your participation. Tag us and use #DT21DAYS so we can see. For anyone who wants to participate outside of social media, you can visit the link in bio, click Dog Training in 21 Days (http://schoolforthedogs.com/dt21days) and checkout with code DT21DAYS. The code will make it completely free.Note: It’s okay to miss a day(s), just jump back in when you can.Today's episode is an interview with Leeyah Wiseman, who will be demonstrating each day on our Instagram. You can also follow Leeyah on Instagram at @georgeandleeyahThe Daily Challenges: WHAT’S YOUR DOGS $100 BILL? TEACH YOUR DOG TO DRAW CAPTURE 50 AWESOME THINGS TEACH A NOSE LICK TEACH LOOK (PART 1 OF 2) TEACH LOOK (PART 2 OF 2) TEACH SIT WITH A SNAP BOUNCE YOUR DOG BETWEEN 2 SPOTS TEACH A HAND TOUCH TEACH DOWN TRAIN FIND IT THE ELEVATOR GAME THE STAY GAME TEACH “DROP IT” MUZZLE TRAINING RELAXATION PROTOCOL TEACH STAND TEACH YOUR DOG WHERE TO WALK TOUCHING AN OBJECT THE PAW TOUCH SHAPING TO PAPERIf you are sharing on Instagram, be sure to tag us and use the hashtag: #DT21DAYSIf you’d like access to all 21 lessons, detailed steps and additional resources visit our on-demand portal - head to the link in our IG bio, click Dog Training in 21 Days and checkout with code DT21. The code will make it completely free.Good luck!---Partial Transcript:[Intro and music]Annie:Hello listeners. Thank you for being here. I am interviewing today, Leah Wiseman, who is, we’re trying to figure out exactly what to call her, but for the moment I’m going to call her our student leader of our upcoming 21 day challenge. Leah, Hey, thanks for being here.Leah Wiseman:Hey, thanks so much for having me today. I’m so excited to chat about our challenge.Annie:I know, me too. So I wanted to have Leah on both to talk about the challenge and we can go through some of the specifics, but also just wanting to kind of hear about Leah’s journey into dog training. She has been a podcast listener, I know, since she got her puppy. Since you got your puppy, I don’t know if I should be, am I speaking to you or like the greater people?Leah:Right? It’s kind of surreal to be talking to you live when it’s I’m so used to like hearing your voice.Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a bonus episode: A recording of a live Q and A.Join Annie Grossman for a live Q and A most Thursdays on Instagram @schoolforthedogs.Get alerted about the next one or ask a question in advance at http://schoolforthedogs.com/qanda.She also sometimes goes live to answer questions on Clubhouse. Find her there: @anniegrossman.Today, Annie spoke to the human belonging to Penny (@heytherepenny on Instagram) about how to help young Penny feel more comfortable alone and how to start to prevent separation anxiety before it begins. Annie gives lots of tips on crate training, talks about how to create crate "FOMO," use the Treat and Train, and more. Join us on Instagram in April for our Day 1 of our Dog Training in 21 Days Challenge!---Partial Transcript:Annie:Hi, is this Penny?Angela:Yes, this is Penny.Annie:And tell me your name.Angela:My name is Angela.Annie:Hey Angela. I’m recording this for School for the Dogs podcast. Is that okay?Angela:Yes.Annie:And where are you guys based? Are you in New York City?Angela:Yeah, so we are, we actually did sign up for a course at School for the Dogs, which starts in April.Annie:Oh, great. Which course are you doing with us?Angela:We’re doing Calm canine.Annie:Oh, great. Excellent.Angela:Just cause Penny, she’s really excited whenever she goes outside. So we’re hoping that’ll help.Annie:Is she a golden doodle?Angela:She’s a cavapoo.Annie:Okay. And how old is she?Angela:She’s six months old now.Annie:Oh, she’s a little, just a tiny pup.Okay. Well tell me what’s going on with Penny.Angela:Well, so she basically follows us everywhere in the home. So like if she’s on the couch and we get up to go somewhere, she will, even if she’s asleep, she will wake up, hop down and follow us to wherever we are. My only concern right now, my boyfriend works from home, so she’s around somebody all day, but my concern is just like, when things go back to normal, he goes back to work. Just because she’s so used to following us, seeing us everywhere, if this becomes an issue for separation.Annie:Yeah. Well, I think you’re right to be thinking about that in advance. Have you tried leaving her alone? Have you tried leaving her with anyone else? What happens when you do that?Angela:So she we’ve done little intervals, like maybe five, 10 minutes or something, but just like we’re in another room. So we’re still, you know, she’ll be in the living room and we’ll just go to another room and kind of watch her on the camera. She again tries to follow us. So for the five, 10 minutes, she will eventually, after a couple minutes of scratching at the door, will go and kind of like sit on the couch. But the longest that we’ve left her is probably like 10 minutes or so.Annie:And she cries during those 10 minutes?Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

Annie reads a satirical essay she wrote, approaching the gun control debate from the point of view of a dog trainer. With dogs, we can create antecedent arrangements to control the environment in order to keep dogs from eating our shoes. If only it were so easy. If only it were so easy keep people from shooting each other...A FAREWELL TO FOOTWEAR: A DOG TRAINER WEIGHS IN ON THE SHOE CONTROL DEBATE by Annie Grossman As an animal trainer by profession, I am specifically interested in shoes that get into the hands, or, rather in the mouths, of dogs. From what I witness in the homes of my clients, the deleterious use of shoes by dogs is a problem with no easy solution.Almost daily, I hear of incidents relating to shoe carnage: people coming home to find their Uggs in pieces all over the living room floor; midnight vet runs spurred by decimated Nikes causing intestinal blockage; children arriving at school late and in tears because the goldendoodle has absconded with a sandal. The problem goes beyond mere inconvenience: At any shelter, you can find dogs who face euthanasia because of sins relating to their insatiable appetite for footwear, and vets around the country will attest to the damage (sometimes irreversible and even fatal) that dogs cause themselves because of their obsession with our shoes.After every incident, be it a small-time heel nibble or a full on closet rampage, there is one question that I hear over and over again: Why did he do it? Motive is a major cause of conversation around these issues. So many dog owners will say that shoe misuse stems from deep-seated puppyhood issues, profound mental disturbance, or a need for dominance. Some say dogs are prone to these kinds of disruptive behaviors because of spite, or inferiority complexes.But, as a trainer, I like to remind people that we cannot read dog minds. We can make a lot of guesses, but they’ll only ever be guesses. Did he do it because of issues with his absentee father? Was he trying to prove himself to the b***h next door? Maybe. And we could spend a lot of time trying to establish motives rooted in those kinds of storylines. But, the fact is, if a dog eats your shoe, it’s because there was a shoe available to eat....Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

School For The Dogs' trainers and clients love treats that dogs can lick straight from a container. One woman has cornered this market, and we're so glad. Her name is Brandi Barker. She started out training dog, but now is the fulltime force behind Bark Pouches, which are little squirt bottles filled with shelf-stable deliciousness. She and Annie talk about how she entered the world of dog training, how she came up with her product, and more. Get Bark Pouches at storeforthedogs.comhttps://storeforthedogs.com/collections/bark-pouchor at BarkPouch.com https://www.barkpouch.com/---Partial Transcript:[Intro and music]Annie:Hello folks. Thank you for being here. I am here with Brandi Barker, who has the world’s best last name if you’re into dogs [laughs].And Brandi who is joining us from Chicago? I believe.Brandi:I actually moved to Columbus, Ohio.Annie:Oh, okay. From Columbus, Ohio. Why don’t you tell us about your amazing product and then we can go from there.Brandi:Okay. Sounds good. So it’s called Bark Pouch, and it’s dog treats in a pouch. Everything is human grade. And I try to keep the ingredients really minimal and I have multiple sizes. I have multiple —Annie:Sorry to interrupt you, but explain it. Let’s explain what a pouch is because it has different meanings.Brandi:Okay. Okay. So you want me to start over then?Annie:No, no, no, just go ahead.Brandi:Okay. So it’s it’s dog treats in a pouch. So if you’ve ever seen the applesauce pouches, or the yogurt pouches that kids eat from, it’s basically like a paste type consistency that you just hold down for your dog and squeeze a tiny bit. They lick straight from the pouch. So it’s, I really design them for walking and training just to make that process easier for people.Annie:What’s funny is I have a toddler. And she eats now from these kinds of pouches all the time, but I feel like my first exposure to this kind of pouch was through Bark Pouch. And then I was like, Oh, wait, they make these for children too. And actually some of the ones that they make for children, I think you can also use for dogs.But yeah, so we’ve been carrying your product for several years now, and they are so genius because they’re lickable. And as trainers we are very into treats that can be licked straight from the container for so many reasons. One reason that I think that people might not think about is when you’re working with dogs all the time, as so many of us are, your hands get really grossand your pockets get really gross. So having something that can simply be given straight from the container into a dog’s mouth is great.Love using it for especially outside, love using it for stuff like muzzle training. So many reasons. And recently we have been selling so many more Bark Pouches before because they used to have to be stored frozen, and then put in the refrigerator after use, but by some magic of production, they are now shelf stable as of a few months ago. And so we’ve been shipping them all over the country.Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe

This is a bonus episode: A recording of a live Q and A.Join Annie Grossman for a live Q and A most Thursdays on Instagram @schoolforthedogs.Get alerted about the next one or ask a question in advance at http://schoolforthedogs.com/qanda.She also sometimes goes live to answer questions on Clubhouse. Find her there: @anniegrossman. Join her on Clubhouse tomorrow 3/19 at 12PM ET to give your answer to the question: What is a good dog? Need a Clubhouse invite? Text 917-414-2625.Today, Annie answered the following questions: -Is it considered "positive punishment" if you use body pressure to encourage walking (from @vagabondpaws) -What is the best way to keep your puppy off of furniture? Saying "No" or "Off"? (from @eleniannm)-How do you get a 12-week-old puppy to potty outside (from @eastvillageenzo)-How do you get a puppy to eat her kibble if she only wants to eat treats and people food? (from @heytherepenny) -What are good toys to leave in the crate (from @303lauren) -How can you best train yourself before getting a dog? (from @alinalauranarvaez) -What should you do when a puppy cries overnight, besides taking him out to potty? (from @luvmesumkatie) Mentioned in this episode:SFTD's on demand courses course available at schoolforthedogs.com/coursesSFTD's house training guide: schoolforthedogs.com/houseSFTD's puppy nipping guide: schoolforthedogs.com/nipTruthaboutpetfood.com Products: The Groov by Diggs https://storeforthedogs.com/products/groov-training-aid?_pos=1&_sid=dfad4b503&_ss=rThe Toppl https://storeforthedogs.com/products/toppl?_pos=1&_sid=b6781a892&_ss=rYak Chews: https://storeforthedogs.com/products/himalayan-chewsBully Grip https://storeforthedogs.com/products/bully-grip-stick-holder?_pos=1&_sid=19b6e3056&_ss=rOther episodes mentioned: A Pet Food Killed My Dog (Interview with Sue Thixton of Truthaboutpetfood.com) https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/episode-63-a-pet-food-killed-my-dog-susan-thixton-the-truth-about-pet-food/A Modern Dog Owners Guide To Nipping https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/episode-10-a-modern-dog-owners-guide-to-nipping/A Modern Dog Owners Guide To House Training https://www.schoolforthedogs.com/podcasts/episode-3-a-modern-guide-to-house-training-your-dog/In Defense of Negative Punishment https://anchor.fm/dogs/episodes/In-Defense-of-Negative-Punishment-Teaching-dogs-patience-at-mealtime--stopping-thumb-sucking--more-erj8si Get full access to Don't Be a Dick to Your Dog at dogtraining.substack.com/subscribe