Gender: A Wider Lens

With such a scarcity of voices from the surgical community chiming in on about their insights and reflections on gender-affirming care, Sasha and Stella eagerly welcome Dr. Eithan Haim to share his compelling perspective on his experiences and observations at a leading pediatric hospital in the United States.For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-151 @EithanHaim on X(Twitter) - https://twitter.com/EithanHaimLegal Defense Fund for Surgeon Whistleblower - https://www.givesendgo.com/texas_whistleblowerBuy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at https://www.widerlenspod.com/ Support the Show at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show Join the conversation on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@widerlenspodFor more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:Sasha Ayad: https://sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coachingTo learn more about our sponsors, visit:Therapy First at https://www.therapyfirst.org/ (formerly GETA)Genspect at https://genspect.org/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Exploring the parallels between the fervor surrounding gender medicine and the hysteria of recovered memory syndrome from the 1990s, both phenomena share a common anchor in the likely resistance of influential figures, like clinicians, therapists and even stake-holders like parents, to change their stance due to personal, reputational, or legal consequences. Read more from Leor about this in his City Journal article linked here:The New Onodas : As evidence mounts against their position, how long will proponents of “gender-affirming care” for minors hold out?A notable distinction between the two phenomena is the extensive institutional capture entwined with gender medicine, a dynamic that didn't quite manifest during the recovered memory craze. But interestingly, as you will hear in this bonus episode for premium subscribers, Leor describes a shared thread that fuels momentum and peaks cultural interests behind both movements - the ongoing internal tensions within feminism and the diverse voices within the feminist spectrum emerging on all sides of each movement.Watch other full length episodes with Leor Sapir here: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Join Sasha and Stella in welcoming Leor Sapir back to the show. In addition to hearing his analysis of the recent New York Times piece by Pamela Paul on youth gender medicine and detransition, listen as they explore comparisons between gender medicine and consumer-driven cosmetic practices, bans on gender-affirming care in the United States, the fostering of narcissism, and parallels with the recovered memory craze from the 1990s.For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-150Manhattan Institute - Leor Sapir https://manhattan.institute/person/leor-sapir?top=false&limit=10&page-number=7&people%5B%5D=46760&dates=Leor Sapir on X(Twitter) @LeorSapirBuy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at https://www.widerlenspod.com/ Support the Show at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show Join the conversation on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@widerlenspodFor more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:Sasha Ayad: https://sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coachingTo learn more about our sponsors, visit:Therapy First at https://www.therapyfirst.org/ (formerly GETA)Genspect at https://genspect.org/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Desistance is a gradual process, unlike the initial identification, and parents may not receive any clear announcement from their child about moving away from a trans-identified phase.A child’s trans identity can often serve as a security blanket, saving them from the hardships and pain of their ‘old-life’. It is so important to honor that perception, but also empower positive experiences beyond the identity as well. Garner creative outlets, new activities giving them the opportunity to discover experiences fostering appreciation for their body. Carefully monitor the introduction of new social connections, aiming to replace the impact of trans community messages with fresh seeds of hope, genuine interest, optimism, growth and development. That name was their ‘ticket out’.In this bonus episode for premium subscribers, the emphasis is all around stressing the importance of parental authority and setting boundaries while also remembering to acknowledge the emotional turmoil kids may face while attempting to shed their trans identity.Watch the original episode with January here: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Join January Littlejohn in this powerful episode as she shares the impact of her daughter's school facilitating social transition without parental consent. Uncover the challenges, strategies, and emotional turmoil of navigating desistance while fighting against a prevailing ideology. Learn about repairing parent-child relationships, setting boundaries, and embracing a radical reset. January's story sheds light on the urgent need for awareness and critical thinking in the face of a misguided ideological wave affecting families.For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-149 Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at https://www.widerlenspod.com/ Support the Show at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show Join the conversation on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@widerlenspodFor more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:Sasha Ayad: https://sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coachingTo learn more about our sponsors, visit:Therapy First at https://www.therapyfirst.org/ (formerly GETA)Genspect at https://genspect.org/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Some kids may resist healing their gender dysphoria because they cling to it as proof of their transgender identity. They see their dysphoria as essential to their trans identity, and seem to resist letting go of it because it provides them a sense of authenticity and belonging. They can often become fixated on the promise of transformation through social and medical transition, believing it’s the key to happiness, rejecting any other alternatives. In this bonus episode for premium subscribers, Sasha and Stella explore reflections and strategies for working with and parenting kids with these ideas and feelings about their gender dysphoria.Visit www.widerlenspod.com to subscribe and hear the full conversation. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

In this episode, Sasha and Stella explore the complexities facing therapists curious about supporting gender dysphoric patients. Join us for a well-rounded take on investing in the process, embracing client-therapist dynamics, managing differing worldviews, and leaning into the fundamental therapeutic value of asking questions.For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-148Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at https://www.widerlenspod.com/ Support the Show at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show Join the conversation on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@widerlenspodFor more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:Sasha Ayad: https://sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coachingTo learn more about our sponsors, visit:Therapy First at https://www.therapyfirst.org/ (formerly GETA)Genspect at https://genspect.org/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Happy 3-year anniversary to Gender: A Wider Lens! This episode marks the celebration of Sasha & Stella’s third year together sharing insightful conversations contemplating gender from a depth perspective.From engaging listener comments, to memorable guests, to unforgettable aha moments, this episode is packed full. Sasha and Stella share their big takeaways from 2023 and reflect on the incredible journey since their first episode was released in 2020. They highlight some of the fan-favorite episodes from all three seasons, showcasing the evolution of the podcast, and they share about anticipated guests and topics planned for 2024.In the spirit of festive celebration, Sasha and Stella open up about their own personal holiday traditions with a very special sign off offering listeners warm wishes for the holiday season and happy blessings in the new year.Sasha and Stella will return from the holiday break with new episodes in February 2024.Links:The Cass Review | Interim Report - Independent Review of Gender Identity Services for Children and Young Peoplehttps://cass.independent-review.uk/publications/interim-report/Use of Puberty Blockers Doubled Since NHS Clampdownhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/26/use-of-puberty-blockers-doubled-since-nhs-clampdown/ (WPATH Files)Bigger Picture Conference Denver: How WPATH Ends with Michael Shellenbergerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN0orsEwyAo Wishing you all a merry and happy holiday season!!Oriental Khalta Rice (the dish Sasha references)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_hTmwJhGUA White Elephant Ruleshttps://www.whiteelephantrules.com/ 'Fairytale of New York' played at Shane MacGowan's funeralhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s8lvnSmISc The Chieftains - Brian Boru's March (the song Stella plays on the flute)https://youtu.be/owF60WWWrks?si=1sYzLGyzyz_yxqty Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support the Show & Access Exclusive Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodJoin the conversation on YouTubewww.youtube.com/@widerlenspod2023 Top-5 Episodes:Episode 109 — What If We Are All Wrong: A Mother’s Regret with Rose This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

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In the world of gender, myths and misconceptions often overshadow the complex realities at play. This episode is dedicated to debunking myths from both sides of the debates. This conversation emphasizes the need to break down myths surrounding gender, acknowledging the overblown ideas that contribute to a lack of nuance and understanding, and sheds light on exaggerated points used as rhetorical strategies by different sides of the gender discourse.Sasha and Stella highlight the danger of blanket statements and the challenge of navigating a topic as intricate as gender in the age of social media. They also explore the impact of parental influence and societal expectations around gender. In a world where gender discussions often fall victim to oversimplification and polarized views, Stella and Sasha's conversation serves as a valuable reminder to approach these complex issues with nuance and empathy. Breaking down myths and fostering understanding is essential for meaningful dialogue, progress in the ongoing gender debate, and the potential for deeper societal understanding emerging from the current discourse.Genspect’s: The Gender Frameworkhttps://genspect.org/resources/sample-policies/genspect-presents-the-gender-framework/ Bigger Picture Conference - DenverTalks from the #genspectbiggerpicture conference in Denver, CO, 2023. More videos will be added regularly, revisit the link again for more content.https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmsMIEB9bK5xwwzCuF5AsjjviLfOxLzBA&si=DX_jQTb4JU_6pDmG Gender: Therapy Session Notes w/ Sasha Ayadhttps://substack.com/@sashaayad Gender Dysphoria & Suicide (Episode 34)https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/34-gender-dysphoria-suicide Suicide by Clinic-Referred Transgender Adolescents in the United KingdomBiggs M. Suicide by Clinic-Referred Transgender Adolescents in the United Kingdom. Arch Sex Behav. 2022 Feb;51(2):685-690. doi: 10.1007/s10508-022-02287-7. Epub 2022 Jan 18. PMID: 35043256; PMCID: PMC8888486https://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/35043256 The Myth of "Reliable Research" in Pediatric Gender Medicine: A critical evaluation of the Dutch Studies-and Research That Has FollowedE. Abbruzzese, Stephen B. Levine & Julia W. Mason (2023) The Myth of “Reliable Research” in Pediatric Gender Medicine: A critical evaluation of the Dutch Studies—and research that has followed, Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, 49:6, 673-699, DOI: 10.1080/0092623X.2022.2150346; https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2150346 Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support the Show & Access... This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Materials referenced: Check out Kathleen Stock's book: Material Girls: Why Reality Matters for Feminism This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support the Show & Access Exclusive Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodJoin the conversation on YouTubewww.youtube.com/@widerlenspodAs therapists working almost exclusively with gender-questioning youth, Sasha and Stella share a little bit about the challenging experience of straddling between understanding the child's experiences and supporting parents who often grapple with goals conflicting with those of the child. This episode aims to provide valuable insights for parents navigating the complexities of supporting gender-diverse children with the goal of exploring some critical considerations that can sometimes be difficult for parents to embrace. They caution against oversimplified narratives, especially for parents who may have adopted a singular explanation for their child's trans identity, and they stress the importance of broadening perspectives, encouraging parents to consider multiple angles, including family dynamics. While exploring these key ideas, Sasha & Stella underscore the need for a middle ground, where parents provide warmth, connection, and engagement while remaining cautious about external influences, reminding parents that solutions lie in embracing complexity rather than adopting extreme and narrow approaches. Excessive tech restrictions and controlling behavior without warmth can be counterproductive in dealing with ROGDBe flexible and open to embracing radical changes in parenting strategiesAvoid the assumption that sharing extensive medical information about gender dysphoria will necessarily be helpfulSeek a wider understanding, thoughtfully embrace the possibility it might not be ROGDParents cannot dictate or control the therapeutic decisions made by their child’s therapistSeek and pursue a measured and supportive approach, be cautious about rushing or hastily implementing various interventions to “fix” the situationParents need to manage their own distress before attempting to effectively help their child, prioritizing self-care is a mustAvoid and recognize the unhelpful nature of engaging in confrontations (specifically online) with kids, detransitions, or activistsReassess roles and emotions when considering long-term transition strategies, reflecting on the possibility that (in some cases) transitioning may be a viable long-term experienceIf you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Episode 2 - Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoriahttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoriaEpisode 4 - Why Do People Seek a New Identity?https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/why-do-people-seek-a-new-identity Episode 44 - Multiple Meanings of Gender Dysphoria: A Conversation with Aaron Terrell This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

In this extra bonus content with Graham Linehan we ask him "how do you talk about gender in your every day life?" To listen to our entire original conversation with Graham, check out episode 144, here on Substack. To watch the episode visit this link on our YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/uJHyJ15mJ-A?si=pkQYS7rLGuSZNOur This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Graham Lanahan, commonly known as Glinner, joins Sasha & Stella for an insightful exploration of comedy, societal shifts, and the personal journey of how a prominent comedy writer landed himself in the thick of identity politics. The episode serves as a testament to the ongoing struggle for open dialogue in the evolving conversation around gender. Graham Lanahan, born in Dublin, is the mastermind behind the beloved sitcoms Father Ted, The IT Crowd, Black Boots, and Motherland. His Substack, The Glinner Update, is dedicated to monitoring the extremes of gender identity ideology, and he also co-hosts the highly successful “The Mess We're In” on YouTube, which has garnered a remarkable 1.5 million views in just three years.In this conversation, Sasha, Stella, and Glinner explore the intersection of his comedic roots, evolving perceptions, and activism in the face of isolation and confrontation. Linehan shares his concerns about the transgender movement and its impact on children. And he reflects on the challenges of using humor in addressing the topic and the complexities of navigating cancel culture. Linehan also touches on his foray into online activism during the Gamergate controversy. Initially driven by a desire to protect women from online harassment, Linehan admitted later to realizing the complexities of the situation and the influence of authoritarian voices within woke culture. Things get very personal when he candidly shares about his evolution from staunch anti-abortion beliefs to becoming an advocate, driven by personal experiences. His, is a vivacious voice navigating the complexities of modern activism, advocating against misinformation, and speaking up against the prevailing narratives in the gender debates. Linehan's story serves as a fascinating exploration of an artist's evolution in response to the ever-changing landscapes of politics and culture.The Glinner Update (Substack)https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/ Tough Crowd: How I Made and Lost a Career in Comedyhttps://www.amazon.com/Tough-Crowd-Made-Career-Comedy-ebook/dp/B0CJ3YLYWF/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1699560605&refinements=p_27%3AGraham+Linehan&s=books&sr=1-1 The Mess We’re Inhttps://www.youtube.com/@GrahamLinehanMagdalen Berns on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@MagdalenBerns Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support the Show & Access Exclusive Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodJoin the conversation on YouTubewww.youtube.com/@widerlenspodIf you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Episode 132 - How To Have Impossible Conversations About Gender with Peter Boghossian This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Stella and Sarah continue the conversation by discussing how to talk about gender issues “in real life.” This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

With Sasha on break this week, Stella plays host to fellow Irish woman, Sarah Holmes, an ordinary working mother turned unexpected activist. The story shared in this conversation is one that resonates with the widespread societal shift in interest toward sex and gender.As the summer of 2020 unfolded, Sarah's life took an unexpected turn when a casual conversation brought to light a seemingly innocuous change in health literature – the disappearance of the word 'woman' from cervical screening materials. Little did Sarah know that this discovery would propel her into the heart of a battle against discrimination, forcing her to confront a societal transformation she never saw coming.When health literature began replacing 'woman' with 'person with a cervix’, Sarah's investigative journey led her to a realization that went beyond the seemingly innocent linguistic alteration. The issue extended to broader concerns about women's rights, safety, and fairness in various facets of life.Sarah shares about her awakening to the contradictions embedded in gender ideology. The discussion goes into the Gender Recognition Act, the implications it held for women. They also discuss Sarah’s evolving concerns about the notion of fluid gender identities and the legal implications of obtaining a female birth certificate for a self-identified woman, as well as the alarming impact on children - with gender clinics on the rise and young girls undergoing irreversible medical interventions based on rejecting societal stereotypes. Sarah also shares about her experience of being denied entry to the National Women's Council of Ireland (NWC) Annual General Meeting, the aftermath, and the surprising revelations that followed. From courtroom battles to exposing inconsistencies, discover the truth behind the push for unquestioned acceptance. Unmasking lies and manipulation, Sarah exposes the creation of falsified documents, challenges biased interpretations, and sheds light on a broader struggle for women's rights in a climate of growing gender controversies. Irish Woman who was Refused Entry to NWC’s Annual Meeting has Lost her Discrimination Casehttps://genspect.org/irish-woman-who-was-refused-entry-to-nwcs-annual-meeting-has-lost-her-discrimination-case/ RTE’s Liveline Episode - Denied access to National Women's Council of Ireland AGMhttps://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/liveline/programmes/2022/0609/1303884-liveline-thursday-9-june-2022/ NWC Statement to RTE’s Liveline programme - Thursday 9th June 2022https://www.nwci.ie/learn/article/nwc_statement_to_rtes_liveline_programme The Irish Times News Articles About the Use of the Word ‘Woman’HSE Defends Removing References To ‘Women’ In Online Cervical Cancer Informationhttps://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/hse-defends-removing-references-to-women-in-online-cervical-cancer-information-1.4357438 What’s Wrong With The Word ‘Woman’? This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Sasha and Stella join forces for a “Part 2” episode about navigating family dynamics during the holidays for families with trans identified children or young adults. This conversation touches on the complexities of estrangement, handling relationships with trans-identified partners, the delicate balance between intervention and bonding, with a focus on managing emotions, setting boundaries, and fostering open conversations within the family. Sasha and Stella carefully remind parents that conflict and distress can be part of the unfolding sense of character and personality development during adolescence. They also emphasize the importance of self-care when coping with holiday stress and giving space to be intense, but most importantly, practicing patience and self-forgiveness for both parents and children holiday pressures become overwhelming.This is a heartfelt conversation about the challenges parents and families face during the holidays, advocating for allowing authenticity, and finding common ground, whether affirming relatives or conflicting opinions, and discovering strategies to approach these situations with love, understanding, and a sense of unity.Episode 50 - When Gender Hits the Holidays (Part 1)https://player.captivate.fm/episode/252e0357-b945-4ce7-819c-524f2cc0d4d3 https://youtu.be/5kazafDMf2E?si=xq-MVERW0hkYhFRqTim Urban’s What's Our Problem?: A Self-Help Book for Societieshttps://www.amazon.com/Whats-Our-Problem-Self-Help-Societies-ebook/dp/B0BTJCTR58 Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support the Show & Access Exclusive Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodJoin the conversation on YouTubewww.youtube.com/@widerlenspodPlease visit www.widerlenspod.com to explore more content, access additional resources, or to join our listener community.Watch us on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@widerlenspodFor more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups:Sasha Ayad: https://inspiredteentherapy.com/parents-start-here Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coachingTo learn more about our sponsors, visit:GETAGenspect This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

The conversation with Dr. Jillian Spencer continues with Dr. Spencer talking about what it’s been like to speak out publicly on these issues. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Join Sasha & Stella for their interview with Dr. Jillian Spencer, a child and adolescent psychiatrist from Queensland, Australia. This episode delves into Dr. Spencer's experiences with the gender clinic in her hospital, highlighting the challenges and concerns she faced in encountering adolescents identifying as transgender. The episode explores the complexities of assessing and treating gender dysphoria in young individuals, shedding light on the impact of fast-tracking into gender clinics and the potential psychological consequences. Dr. Spencer shares her journey of trying to raise awareness about the concerns surrounding gender interventions for children and the need for a more comprehensive approach to mental health. Jillian Spencer is a child and adolescent psychiatrist who lives in Queensland, Australia. She studied Medicine at Monash University in Melbourne and then subsequently trained in psychiatry. She completed sub-speciality certificates in Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and Forensic Psychiatry. She qualified as a psychiatrist in 2009. She has worked for Queensland Health for 21 years. In mid-April 2023, she was removed from clinical duties due to being considered a danger to trans and gender diverse children. Since her story came out in the media in June, she has sought to raise awareness of the concerns around gender interventions for children.Sasha & Stella’s conversation with Dr. Spencer touches on the influence of clinicians, the surge in youth attending gender clinics, encounters with dismissive responses from superiors, and the attempt to raise critical questions about safeguarding and ethical considerations in the treatment of gender dysphoria.This is the emotionally compelling account of the circumstances surrounding Dr. Spencer’s suspension from clinical duties, her experiences raising awareness through presentations, distributing books, and participating in "Let Women Speak" rallies, and the broader implications for healthcare professionals challenging the prevailing narrative on gender dysphoria in children.Dr. Jillian Spencer speaks at a Let Women Speak rally in 2023 with Kellie-Jay Keenhttps://youtu.be/7OcIuLlbIPc?t=1204 Dr. Spencer’s reference of former GWL guest, Ellie from her 2023 presentation:Models of Care for Children with Gender Dysphoriahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBZ-QkBGWlA&t=169s Introduction to the Gender Frameworkhttps://genspect.org/introduction-to-the-gender-framework/ Genspect’s: The Gender Frameworkhttps://genspect.org/resources/sample-policies/genspect-presents-the-gender-framework/ Bigger Picture Conference - DenverTalks from the #genspectbiggerpicture conference in Denver, CO, 2023. More videos will be added regularly, revisit the link again for more content.https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmsMIEB9bK5xwwzCuF5AsjjviLfOxLzBA&si=DX_jQTb4JU_6pDmG Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

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Welcome to a special edition of Gender: A Wider Lens podcast! Recorded live from Genspect’s The Bigger Picture Conference in November 2023 from Denver, CO, USA with special guest in-person appearance from the delightful detransitioner, Chloe Cole. Hear Chloe share candidly about her journey through gender transition and detransition. From the challenges of societal expectations and the pressure to conform to gender norms, to the emotional impact of undergoing hormone therapy and a double mastectomy all before the age of sixteen. Chloe opens up about the highs and lows of her trans identity experience. Discover how she navigated the complexities of self-discovery, faced online backlash, and eventually found purpose in advocating for detransitioners' rights. Gain insights into her aspirations beyond the gender discourse, including her passion for creativity, fashion, and the desire to build a family. This raw and honest conversation sheds light on the often untold aspects of the transgender journey, offering a unique perspective on resilience, self-rediscovery, and the pursuit of a meaningful future.Follow Chloe on Social Media Instagram, YouTube, X - formerly Twitter@chooocoleOrder Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support the Show & Access Exclusive Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodJoin the conversation on YouTubewww.youtube.com/@widerlenspodIf you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Genspect Speakers PlaylistMany of the esteemed speakers participating in The Bigger Picture have previously been guests on our show. Click the link below to access a playlist composed of AWL episodes involving speakers from the 2023 Genspect Conferences.https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngVCeAoK6vuWE4sNG_fi5nnz-d1xQEBi Please visit www.widerlenspod.com to explore more content, access additional resources, or to join our listener community.Watch us on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@widerlenspodFor more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups:Sasha Ayad: https://inspiredteentherapy.com/parents-start-here Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coachingTo learn more about our sponsors, visit:GETAGenspect This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Sasha and Stella continue the conversation with Coach Linda Blade and talk about non-binary athletes, “medical exemptions” for testosterone, self ID in sports and how does Coach Linda talk about these issues in her every day life. Article referenced: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/10/06/trans-nonbinary-runner-testosterone-exemption/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Coach Linda Blade joins Sasha & Stella for an incredible conversation about the critical issues surrounding fairness and inclusivity in women's sports. They explore the challenges and biases faced by female athletes in the wake of transgender athletes competing in women's categories, particularly the profound psychological impact. The conversation also sheds light on the rich historical context of fairness in competition. Dr. Linda Blade is a former Canadian Champion (1986) and a full scholarship NCAA All American (1984) in Track & Field. As a Chartered Professional Coach, Linda has worked internationally for over 30 years with hundreds of athletes. Her expertise has extended to leadership roles (selected): Provincial President (2014 -2023) of Athletics Alberta, where she developed sex-based eligibility guidelines; Co-author of UNSPORTING: How Trans Activism and Science Denial are Destroying Sport (2021); Collaborator in the establishment of the International Consortium on Female Sport (ICFS). Linda has been publicly advocating for the fairness and safety of female athletes since 2018. Dr. Blade will be presenting at Genspect’s The Bigger Picture Conference in Denver, CO.Don’t miss this valuable discussion emphasizing the importance of sex-based policies for fostering a fair competition environment. Dr. Blade even offers insights into the use of puberty blockers in youth sports, highlighting the potential risks and implications for young athletes, and also the challenges with data collection and analysis. The conversation also touches on the question of intersex conditions and how they have influenced elite women's sports, underscoring the need for thoughtful policies and guidelines to address DSD (differences in sexual development), ensuring fairness and inclusivity while respecting the unique circumstances of athletes like Caster Semenya, a South African intersex olympic athlete. This is an engaging episode offering a vital perspective on the complexities of balancing inclusivity with fairness.Attend Genspect’s: The Bigger Picturehttps://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/ Find Coach Blade on Twitter: @coachblade More About Coach Blade: https://worldathletics.org/personal-best/lifestyle/linda-blade-life-in-athletics Unsporting: How Trans Activism and Science Denial are Destroying Sporthttps://www.unsporting.com/ Women's Rights, Gender Wrongs: the global impact of gender-identity ideologyhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Womens-Rights-Gender-Wrongs-gender-identity/dp/1739265602 Contribute to the International Consortium of Female Sporthttps://www.icfsport.org/ Contribute to The Independent Council on Women's Sports (ICONS)https://www.iconswomen.com/ Contribute to Champion Women This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

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Join Sasha & Stella for this candid conversation delving into the intricate realm of parenting children who identify as transgender. They discuss the fear, confusion, and complex emotions parents face when dealing with their child's gender identity. The conversation touches on the challenges of communicating with their children and the potential risks and benefits of transitioning, emphasizing the importance of making the process more nuanced and less black-and-white, helping young people understand the complexity of their experiences, fostering resilience and offering a realistic perspective on the long-term impacts of gender transition. The conversation also explores the emotional challenges, including doubts and fears that parents often confront, such as the sense of losing their child to a different persona. They examine the loss of innocence that frequently accompanies adolescence, and the grieving process, a profound experience for these parents, acknowledging that many parents, in these situations, may grapple with isolation and loneliness. Crucially, Sasha and Stella offer a nuanced perspective, emphasizing that these feelings are normal and not indicative of bad parenting. They celebrate parents for embracing a more thoughtful and reflective path through their child’s gender exploration, even when it's difficult and unpopular, exemplifying the emotional courage and bravery required to support their children on this journey. This important discussion offers valuable insights into the unique challenges faced by parents when their children express transgender identities. It promotes empathy, understanding, and resilience within the family unit, fostering a more compassionate and supportive environment for these young individuals.Gender Dysphoria: What It's Like For Parentshttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/16-gender-dysphoria-what-its-like-for-parents https://youtu.be/hLPh-_4DYjg Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support the Show & Access Exclusive Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodJoin the conversation on YouTubewww.youtube.com/@widerlenspodIf you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Episode 122 - We Wrote a Book: When Kids Say They're Trans | A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/is-my-child-trans-a-guide-for-parentshttps://youtu.be/f4LL2hI-qjs Episode 107 — What Your Teen is Trying to Tell You https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/107-what-your-teen-is-trying-to-tell-you This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

In this additional conversation with Wilfred Reilly, we delve deeper into the realm of gender medicine as Wilfred raises his apprehensions about the excessive diagnosis of mental health issues and the potential adverse effects of various extreme body modifications. We go to some pretty interesting places, you definitely want to listen to this! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Stella & Sasha welcome Wilfred Reilly to the program for an intriguing conversation touching on gender and medicalization, political affiliations and extremism, violence and discrimination, societal myths and data analysis, and the impact of the internet on niche interests and mental health.Wilfred Reilly is an Associate Professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University, a historically Black institution. His research interests include International Relations, contemporary American race and gender relations, and the use of modern quantitative/empirical methods to test ‘sacred cow’ theories.In this episode, they delve into the issues surrounding gender, addressing concerns about youth and gender transition for children. They explore the challenges of obtaining reliable statistics on detransitioning and the difficulties in conducting research in the field of gender due to ideological biases. The conversation underscores the role of media bias and the evolving landscape of identity, alluding to the potential consequences of the medicalization of gender-related issues and the need for more open discussion and data collection considering that even academic studies are sometimes targeted and obstructed by activists.The discussion also touches on the broader issues of ideological extremism and its implications for society. Wilfred shares his insights into debunking misconceptions related to topics like police violence and discrimination. He also shares about instances of fake hate crimes on college campuses, shedding light on how seemingly innocuous events were misconstrued and magnified, highlighting the prevalence of victimization and the consequences of seeking attention through such incidents. Sasha raises concerns about the impact of such ideological paranoia on people's mental health and interpersonal relationships while Wilfred draws parallels between this ideological extremism and traditional religious beliefs, suggesting that both can lead to a level of paranoia and fear. This conversation offers no shortage of intriguing stories that challenge common narratives and assumptions.Links:Attend Genspect’s: The Bigger Picturehttps://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/ Wilfred Reilly on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/wil_da_beast630Buy Wilfred Reilly’s BooksLies My Liberal Teacher Told Mehttps://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Liberal-Teacher-Told-ebook/dp/B0BDZMZJ4C Taboo: 10 Facts You Can't Talk Abouthttps://www.amazon.com/Taboo-Facts-Cant-Talk-About/dp/162157928X Hate Crime Hoax: How the Left is Selling a Fake Race Warhttps://www.amazon.com/Hate-Crime-Hoax-Lefts-Campaign/dp/1621577783 The $50,000,000 Question: An Engagingly Empirical Examination of the Relationship between "Privilege" and Pridehttps://www.amazon.com/000-Question-Engagingly-Examination-Relationship/dp/3659846031 Why the Mental Health of Liberal Girls Sank First and Fastest This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

We ask Maggie for advice on how to talk about these issues out in the “real world.” She shares some great advice about how to meet people where they are and plant some seeds.Dr. Maggie mentions that she shares certain episodes of this podcast with people who are looking for more information. When she says the “5 Top” she is referring to the top 5 episodes from our first two seasons (Ep 93 with Wesley Yang, Ep 69 Pioneers Series Analysis, Ep 71 with Jesse Singal, Ep 88 with Leor Sapir, and Ep 66 with the Dutch researchers.)She also references our more recent episode with Zhenya Abbruzzese (Ep 118) and she calls out Lisa Selin Davis’s work which you can find here: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

In this episode, Maggie Goldsmith joins Sasha and Stella for a conversation about the psychodynamic approach in understanding gender identity issues, particularly in children and adolescents. Maggie shares her personal journey, shedding light on how rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD) can signal a need for change within the family dynamic. She puts an emphasis on the importance of delving into unconscious processes that shape identity and behavior. The discussion covers theories about how key developmental stages, such as symbiosis and paranoid schizoid positions, can impact self-perception and relationships. Psychodynamic therapy is highlighted as a tool for deeper exploration, benefiting both the child and their family. Maggie also highlights how parental anxiety can affect the parent-child relationship, so self-care is crucial for both the parent and child's well-being. Sasha, Stella and Maggie share anecdotes about how different children may respond to discussions about gender identity and how parents need to adapt to their child's unique needs and circumstances. The conversation underscores the importance of open communication and maintaining a healthy relationship with the child throughout their journey of self-discovery.Dr. Maggie Goldsmith is the author of the PITT essay “To My Daughter’s Therapist: You Were Wrong”, which was the first essay from the PITT Substack to go viral and put PITT on the map. It can be found in a recently published book that includes 75 essays by parents who have gender questioning children.Since her first Wider Lens episode (#85), she has been very busy with a full caseload of kids and families impacted by gender dysphoria. Dr. Maggie’s approach to this work is grounded in object relations theory and supported by an understanding of human development throughout the life course. This places the family and the parent-child relationship in a position of primary importance as they manage and repair the inevitable ruptures of adolescence.This is a captivating conversation, offering a unique perspective on the intersection of psychoanalytic theory, gender identity, and the practical implications for clinicians and parents alike.Links:Mother-Daughter Story: "I Didn’t Want to be Yours Anymore" w/ Dr. Maggie Goldsmithhttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/85-mother-daughter-story-i-didnt-want-to-be-yours-anymore-w-dr-maggie-goldsmith https://youtu.be/E5crJzqnIeU?feature=shared PITT BookParents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans: Tales from the Home Front in the Fight to Save Our Kidshttps://www.amazon.com/Parents-Inconvenient-Truths-about-Trans/dp/1634312465/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35ECHZ0MUL32I&keywords=Parents+with+Inconvenient+Truths+about+Trans%3A+Tales+from+the+Home+Front+in+the+Fight+to+Save+Our+Kids&qid=1696475515&s=books&sprefix=parents+with+inconvenient+truths+about+trans+tales+from+the+home+front+in+the+fight+to+save+our+kids%2Cstripbooks%2C128&sr=1-1 PITT Substack Articles Trans and the Myth of Sloppy Parenting This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Sasha and Stella continue the conversation with Aaron Kimberly by asking Aaron “how do you talk about gender in real life?” This is always a hard question to answer but Aaron takes us in very interesting places sharing what it’s like for people in “small town rural Canada” to be confronted with this ideology, and how it makes life much more difficult and isolating for people like Aaron. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Join Sasha, Stella, and Aaron Kimberly for a conversation exploring gender identity, queer theory, and intersex experiences.In this candid conversation, Aaron shares about his journey through adolescence and the challenges of growing up in a rural farming community with early onset gender dysphoria. He touches on categorization error and its impact on identity development, as well as the discovery of his intersex condition. The discussion explores the complexities of social transitioning within the lesbian community, and the importance of access to accurate information and its influence in shaping one's identity. The conversation even digs into the world of queer theory, its aim to deconstruct traditional categories, and the impact Aaron’s study of queer theory had on his perceptions of gender non-conformity and his own personal decision to transition.Aaron Kimberly is a female to male transsexual, born with a rare ovotesticular intersex condition which was diagnosed when he was 19. As an adolescent, he was having severe gynecological problems and began to masculinize at the onset of puberty, until the ovotestes was discovered and removed. For many years, he was confused about his identity, sexuality and biological sex, and eventually decided to continue masculinizing with HRT and legally change sex.Aaron is also a mental health nurse with an interest in the many forms of gender dysphoria, and concerned about the many iterations of social contagions among youth, such as ticks, "multiple personalities" and trans identity. He's the executive director of the Gender Dysphoria Alliance, co-host of the Transparency Podcast, a member of the newly launched LGBT Courage Coalition and a board member of APISC Digital Research Foundation which is using AI technology to map online influences on youth identity formation.Links:Gender Dysphoria Alliancehttps://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/ Transparency Podcasthttps://www.youtube.com/@GenderDysphoriaAllianceSelection from Aaron’s Art CollectionOne Hand Clapping: Portraits and Pomeshttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1epzrDb1isrVnqAVqxAown-m-OY7chrsW/view?usp=drive_link Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support Our Show & Access Exclusive Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodJoin the conversation on YouTubewww.youtube.com/@widerlenspodIf you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Episode 10 - Queer Theory: Subverting Life's Categorieshttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/10-queer-theory Episode 44 - Multiple Meanings of Gender Dysphoria: A Conversation with Aaron Terrell This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Join Stella and Sasha as they discuss the exciting lineup of speakers and topics at the upcoming conference in Denver. From brain sex to the opioid epidemic, gender ideology to detransition stories, this event promises to be intellectually stimulating, heartwarming, and inspiring. Don't miss the chance to meet these influential voices in person and engage in important conversations.Explore Genspect’s The Bigger Picture Conference in Denver this November! Be there for enlightening discussions on gender, politics, and society. Experts from diverse backgrounds, including biology, psychology, law, and more, will tackle essential topics. Discover a nuanced approach to gender, listen to whistleblower reflections, and delve into the impact of politics on parenting. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking event that aims to bring different perspectives together for a comprehensive understanding of gender issues.Attend Genspect’s: The Bigger Picturehttps://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/ Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener Communityhttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodLinks:The Bigger Picture Conference, Killarney, Ireland | Archiveshttps://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-conference/ Opening Plenary with Stella O’MalleyWhen Ideology Meets Gender Healthcare with Helen JoyceWhat if they’re Gay and not Trans? Panel Moderated by Benjamin BoyceThe Betrayal of Trust with Stephanie Davies-AraiThe Pronoun Debate Moderated by Alasdair GunnDismantling the “Evidence” with Michael BiggsThe Confluence of Philosophy, Feminism & Queer Theory Heather Brunskell-EvansGender Ideology in Irish Education Moderated by Stella O’MalleyGender Ideology as a Religion with Colette ColferShould Puberty Blockers Ever be Used for Gender... This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

"I have the kind of child who will do the opposite if I ask her to do something. How do I soften her defense and so she'll open her mind to ideas different than hers? One example is I want to watch the No Way Back film in the family movie night but also worry she'll simply push back, or worse, shut herself tight on this topic."Sasha & Stella reference a few documentary's in their response:Trans Kids: It's Time to Talkhttp://www.stellaomalley.com/trans-kids-time-to-talk The Trans Train :Part 1: Part 2: Part 3: Part 4: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Sasha and Stella discuss the current cultural impulse that suggests affirming “trans” identity is the same as affirming gay sexual orientation in young people - are these two declarations really as parallel as the social justice narrative claims them to be? Sasha and Stella emphasize the importance of not conflating the two and explore how society's response to a child's gender identity should differ from declarations about sexual orientation. This discussion provides valuable perspectives on the nuanced relationship between gender identity, sexuality, and the importance of careful consideration when affirming a child's self-defined gender .Stella draws from her own personal experiences with gender dysphoria while growing up, and Sasha chimes in, offering expert insights from individual therapy with gender-distressed youth. This conversation sheds light on the challenges faced by young people navigating multiple aspects of their identity development. They stress the importance of listening deeply and compassionately to young people’s distress while carefully navigating the fine line between affirmation and genuine understanding so that children can feel truly heard and supported, rather than superficially being “agreed with.” This thought-provoking conversation highlights the nuances of gender identity and ways it may differ from sexual orientation while also considering the long-term consequences of medical interventions, challenging the affirmation-only narrative, and encouraging a more thoughtful and reflective approach to supporting trans-identified kids.Links:Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Bonus Contenthttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodTrans Kids: It's Time to Talkhttp://www.stellaomalley.com/trans-kids-time-to-talk Affirmation Therapy: Necessary, But Not Sufficienthttps://youtu.be/WxRJQ_FI70c?feature=shared Helena Part 1: Social Justice, Fandoms & FtM Gay Boyshttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/45-helena-part-1-social-justice-fandoms-ftm-gay-boys Helena Part II: Advice for Parents from a Former Trans Kidhttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/46-helena-part-ii-advice-for-parents-from-a-former-trans-kid One Detrans Voice: A Conversation with Carolhttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/15-one-detrans-voice-a-conversation-with-carol Facing Futility: You Can’t Actually Change Sex, with Corinna Cohnhttps://youtu.be/-nSUAqdT0fw?si=cSC0slo2-4m_PI1C Explore Gender Identity Development... This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

The beginning part of this conversation might sound a little familiar as it was included in the last part of Ep 132. Because the bonus conversation includes an analysis of the role played scenario from the full episode, we wanted to to include the role playing portion of the full episode here as well to offer context for the analysis discussion. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

In this thought-provoking episode, Stella and Sasha engage in a powerful conversation with the brilliant Peter Boghossian, known for his controversial public resignation from Portland State University and his critical stance on academia.Dr. Peter Boghossian is a Founding Faculty member at the University of Austin and the director of National Progress Alliance. Peter has a teaching pedigree spanning more than 25 years that focuses on the Socratic method, scientific skepticism, and critical thinking. Peter’s dissertation explored increasing the moral reasoning of prison inmates and aiding their resistance to crime. His most recent book is How to Have Impossible Conversations, and his writing can be found in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Scientific American, Time Magazine, National Review, and elsewhere. His work is centered on bringing the tools of professional philosophers to a wide variety of contexts to help people think through what seem to be intractable problems.The highlight of this episode is a role-playing exercise where Peter assumes the role of a concerned parent, while Stella and Sasha take on the roles of 13-year-old kids seeking puberty blockers. You'll witness Peter's exceptional ability to lower defensiveness and foster understanding in the midst of a challenging conversation. His calm, patient, and curious approach shines through, setting an inspiring example for parents facing similar challenges. We highly recommend exploring Peter's YouTube channel where he posts his street epistemologies. His work, as seen in his book "How to Have Impossible Conversations," has been featured in respected publications like Scientific American, Time Magazine, and National Review.Don't miss this enlightening episode where Peter Boghossian shares his expertise in navigating difficult conversations and sheds light on the importance of approaching the topic of gender exploration with intention, understanding and empathy. Peter's extensive experience and wisdom provide a fresh perspective on an issue many listeners grapple with.Join us for this remarkable conversation that may change the way you engage in impossible conversations.Order Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Support Our Show by Subscribing to Our Listener Communityhttps://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodLinks:Find Peter BoghossianLinktr.ee - https://linktr.ee/peterboghossian YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@drpeterboghossian Substack - https://boghossian.substack.com/ Buy Peter’s Bookhttps://www.amazon.com/How-Have-Impossible-Conversations-Practical/dp/0738285323 Confrontation at Portland State University: https://youtu.be/zxvyeZa1YSI?si=13rStQrj4yl962jB If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Episode 7 - Collective Collusion This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Sasha and Stella continue the conversation with Corinna Cohn talking about Corinna’s writing, political advocacy, pronouns, free speech, female spaces and lots of other things. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Fellow podcaster, Corinna Cohn, joins Sasha and Stella for an incredibly deep and meaningful discussion. Demonstrating no shortage of her charming sarcastic banter, Corinna offers an endearing balance of humor and thoughtful introspection as well as informative insights based on her lived experience as a transexual, writer, and activist. The conversation covers a wide array of topics including Corinna’s early experiences with gender identity exploration, transition and the changing landscape of gender, as well as her reevaluation of her own perceptions of gender and self-acceptance. Corinna Cohn is a writer, podcaster, and activist from Indiana. Corinna was diagnosed with gender identity disorder at age 15 and underwent surgical transition at age 19. In 2019, she became involved in patient advocacy, and in 2022 began organizing to support legislation that regulates gender medicalization of minors. Corinna has met with legislators and given testimony in Indiana, Texas, and Ohio.In this episode, you’ll hear Corinna share her reflections that the acknowledgment of futility is a crucial step in one’s personal growth and acceptance, particularly in challenging situations. Together, Sasha, Stella and Corinna get into finding meaning in navigating ambivalence, self-reflection and accountability. Their discussion also highlights Corinna’s activism in the context of the evolution of transgender activism, the complexity of legislative politics in the United States and the projected future of gender identity politics as a movement.Links:Corinna’s Substackhttps://substack.com/@corinnacohn Heterodorx Podcast (with co-host Nina Paley):https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/heterodorx/id1602842758 Corinna’s Washington Post Article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/11/i-was-too-young-to-decide-about-transgender-surgery-at-nineteen/ Corinna’s Article about Texas HB3502https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/texas-bill-to-protect-detransitioners Democrat Rep. Shawn Thierry’s Address to Texas Legislative Bodyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKp1IGds6RQ Corinna’s Indiana testimony (regarding sports):https://youtu.be/G8lgScZ0YzY Corinna’s Indiana testimony (regarding medical interventions on minors): https://youtu.be/wYhMejWA_zgCorinna’s Ohio testimony (regarding medical interventions on minors):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkSZlVLwBk Pre-Order When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener... This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Sasha and Stella continue the conversation with Katie Herzog by asking “how do you talk about gender issues in real life?” Katie’s core advice is “read the room” but she has a lot of other insights and experiences to share, from her own life, as well! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

In this episode, Sasha and Stella eagerly welcome journalist Katie Herzog, who is also co-host with Jesse Singal on the popular podcast Blocked & Reported (aka BARPod). This dynamic discussion covers a wide range of topics, including Katie’s experiences and observations over the past two decades as a lesbian in the queer / LGBTQ+ community, especially pertaining to trans identities. They also explore Katie’s reflections from her influential 2017 article on detransitioners, The Detransitioners: They Were Transgender, Until They Weren't, and how her perspective on gender has evolved in the aftermath of its publication. The conversation even delves into repressed memories, different approaches to psychotherapy, nonbinary identities, and the particularly interesting, important and controversial topic - preferred pronouns. Katie, known well for both her wit and thoughtfulness, brought a unique perspective to these discussions, much like she lends to her own work and content.Links:Blocked and Reported (Katie’s Podcast with Jesse Singal)https://www.blockedandreported.org/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile The Detransitioners: They Were Transgender, Until They Weren'thttps://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/06/28/25252342/the-detransitioners-they-were-transgender-until-they-werent A Response to the Uproar Over My Piece, "The Detransitioners"https://www.thestranger.com/lgbtqitslfa/2017/07/03/25262759/a-response-to-the-uproar-over-my-piece-the-detransitioners Katie’s Work with The Stranger (including articles linked above)https://www.thestranger.com/authors/24847206/katie-herzog A Segment from Katie’s Appearance on Real Time With Bill Maherhttps://youtu.be/H5tZZvUUvXA?feature=shared Please visit www.widerlenspod.com to explore more content, access additional resources, or to join our listener community.Watch us on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@widerlenspodPre-Order When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Attend Our Live Event – When Kids Say They’re Trans: Weekend of Workshops | September 21-24, 2023https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/weekend-of-workshopsIf you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Episode 1 - Trans: Identity vs Dysphoriahttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/trans-identity-vs-dysphoria Episode 8 - TransGenerational Wisdom: A conversation with Buck Angel This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

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In this episode, Stella & Sasha explore the concept of an Oedipus Trap, inspired by a podcast with Megan McArdle (see below). Sasha and Stella apply this psychological concept to the issue of childhood transition and how so many people involved might refuse to face their own mistakes or acknowledge their own accountability to the consequences of gender-affirming care. In her opinion piece for the Washington Post (linked below), Megan McArdle describes the oedipus trap as “There are some mistakes no one can live with, no matter how innocently they were made…Thus the trap: If you have made such a mistake, it is obviously better not to know you have done so.” The origin of the concept comes from the story of Oedipus from Greek mythology (linked below).In their conversation, Stella & Sasha speak delicately, but candidly about reconciling the choices and actions of affirmative clinicians, as their stories and experiences can offer valuable insights for reflection and learning around the harm vs. benefit analysis of youth gender transition. Links:Pre-Order When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Attend Our Live Event – When Kids Say They’re Trans: Weekend of Workshops | September 21-24, 2023https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/weekend-of-workshopsParents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans: Tales from the Home Front in the Fight to Save Our Kidshttps://www.amazon.com/Parents-Inconvenient-Truths-about-Trans/dp/1634312465 Megan McArdle on the Oedipus Traphttps://youtu.be/UpbNslZejOUThe Washing Post ArticleOpinion | What the world can learn from a lobotomy surgeon’s horrible mistakehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/14/walter-freeman-lobotomy-regret/ Oedipus from Greek Mythologyhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Oedipus-Greek-mythology If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:Episode 27 — Behind the Curtain: Psychotherapy for Gender Dysphoria with Sue and Marcus Evanshttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/27-behind-the-curtain-psychotherapy-for-gender-dysphoria-with-sue-and-marcus-evansEpisode 91 — Uncovering the GIDS Disaster: Dr. Dave Bellhttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/91-uncovering-the-gids-disaster-dr-dave-bell Episode 104 — No Time to Think with Hannah Barnes: The Downfall of GIDS at the Tavistock This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

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“We are making strong recommendations based on weak evidence,” a statement from practicing pediatrician, Dr. Julia Mason, about the basis of gender affirming care, which is the model of care currently backed by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP).In this episode, Dr. Mason sits down with Sasha & Stella to discuss her relentless efforts towards charging the AAP to pursue a systematic review of the evidence behind gender affirming care. They discuss the series of events leading up to the AAP’s most recent article reaffirming their commitment to the affirmation model as laid out in the AAP’s policy statement published in 2018, but also announcing their authorization of a systematic review of the evidence. This decision on the part of the AAP comes long overdue in the wake of so many European organizations who have recently conducted their own reviews, all of which have resulted in abrupt shifts in the care protocols around gender transition.Links:NY Times article about the AAP's recent moves:https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/03/health/aap-gender-affirming-care-evidence-review.html SEGM’s Spotlighthttps://segm.org/news Rafferty’s 2018 AAP Statementhttps://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/142/4/e20182162/37381/Ensuring-Comprehensive-Care-and-Support-for Cantor Fact Checks the Rafferty Paperhttp://www.jamescantor.org/uploads/6/2/9/3/62939641/cantor_fact-check_of_aap.pdf Wall Street Journal Articlehttps://www.wsj.com/articles/doctors-group-to-examine-guidelines-for-treatment-of-transgender-youths-dbe98caa The Cass Review | Interim Report - Independent Review of Gender Identity Services for Children and Young Peoplehttps://cass.independent-review.uk/publications/interim-report/Genspect’s Open Letter to the AAPhttps://genspect.org/an-open-letter-to-the-american-academy-of-pediatrics/ Leor Sapir’s Articlehttps://www.wsj.com/articles/second-thoughts-on-gender-affirming-care-american-academy-pediatrics-doctors-review-medicine-a7173276 AAP Reaffirms But Authorizes Systematic Reviewhttps://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/25340/AAP-reaffirms-gender-affirming-care-policy?autologincheck=redirected Opinion Supporting Gender Dysphoric Youth This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

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Adolescence is a natural time for identity exploration. In this episode, Sasha and Stella address the challenges schools face when dealing with students questioning their gender identities. They focus on strategies for finding a balanced approach, honoring students' self-expression, preserving opportunities for further developmental progress and discovery, and respecting family dynamics. They highlight the pressure on schools to quickly respond and adopt policies, often without sufficient evidence of their effectiveness. They discuss the misconception that social transition is the only solution, questioning the long-term efficacy of this intervention and its potential for unintended psychological consequences. The conversation also touches on the fear of suicide, internalized homophobia, and common comorbidities including autism, ADHD, anxiety, and depression that could be contributing to the students' experience. This episode offers valuable insights intended to empower educators to provide a nuanced approach, seeking a balance between offering guidance and respecting the multifaceted journey of identity discovery during the adolescent years.Links:Suicide by Clinic-Referred Transgender Adolescents in the United KingdomBiggs M. Suicide by Clinic-Referred Transgender Adolescents in the United Kingdom. Arch Sex Behav. 2022 Feb;51(2):685-690. doi: 10.1007/s10508-022-02287-7. Epub 2022 Jan 18. PMID: 35043256; PMCID: PMC8888486https://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/35043256 Sasha Shares About Her Experience Working as a Middle School Counselorhttps://youtu.be/vI54mth3qxs A Clinical Guide for Therapists Working with Gender-Questioning Youthhttp://www.genderexploratory.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/GETA_ClinicalGuide_2022.pdf School Policy: Gender Identity (USA)https://genspect.org/comprehensive-gender-identity-school-policy-usa/ School Policy: Sexual Orientation And Gender Identity (Ireland)https://genspect.org/school-policy-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity-ireland/ Brief Guidance For Schoolshttps://genspect.org/guidance-for-schools/ Brief Guidance On Social Transitionhttps://genspect.org/guidance-on-social-transition/ The Secret Gender Files - Substack for Malcolm Richard Clarkhttps://substack.com/@malcolmrichardclark For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups:Sasha Ayad: https://inspiredteentherapy.com/parents-start-here Stella O’Malley: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

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Sasha and Stella take time together to dig deeper in reflection and analysis from some of their recent episodes. They also chat a little bit about a few of their latest projects and endeavors including their upcoming book release: When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents. Visit whenkidssaytheyretrans.com to pre-order your copy of the book before Aug 25th and request an invite to their free webinar: When Kids Say They’re Trans: Do’s, Don’ts and Damage Control.This episode also offers the official announcement with details of their 2023 live parent event. Registration is open for When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Weekend of Workshops, taking place September 21-24, 2023 in Annapolis, MD. Register by August 20th to take advantage of early bird pricing.LINKS:Pre-Order When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parentshttps://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ When Kids Say They’re Trans: Weekend of Workshops | September 21-24, 2023https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/weekend-of-workshopsWhen Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents (Press Release)https://www.thebookseller.com/rights/swift-press-signs-parental-guide-from-therapists-ayad-omalley-and-marchiano Sasha’s GETA WorkshopOnline Visibility and Political Identities: Working with Gender | August 19, 2023https://www.eventbrite.com/e/online-visibility-and-political-identities-working-with-gender-tickets-671422692347?aff=oddtdtcreatorGenspect "The Bigger Picture" Continues | Denver, Colorado (November 4-5, 2023)https://genspect1.telltix.com/events/genspect1/943746 Genspect Launches New Think Tank to Draft a Gender Care Frameworkhttps://genspect.org/genspect-launches-new-think-tank-to-draft-a-gender-care-framework/ FEATURED EPISODES: Episode 116 — Identity Politics vs. The Pursuit of Knowledge with Dr. Michael Baileyhttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/116-identity-politics-vs-the-pursuit-of-knowledge-with-dr-michael-bailey Follow-Up Episode: 116 Part II - Retraction w/ Dr. Michael Baileyhttps://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/follow-up-episode-116-part-ii-retraction-w-dr-michael-baileyEpisode 120 — Pioneer Series: Researching Sexual Behaviors... This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

Sasha and Stella continue the conversation with Sara Stockton by introducing our new series called “Dinner Party Conversations.” Sara shares how she attempts to open the door to communication on issues of gender with honesty, but also with great sensitivity. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com

In this episode, Sasha and Stella sit down with Sara Stockton, MA, LMFT. Sara is a licensed marriage and family therapist who initially worked with affirmative clinicians, fully embracing gender identity theory. Initially, Sara earnestly believed in her work and its potential to help transgender youth. Over time, she began to doubt the field's effectiveness, the emerging adoption of queer theory bias within the field, and grew concerned with the poor treatment outcomes she began encountering with patients.Sara Stockton is a licensed marriage and family therapist, lecturer, researcher, presenter, and clinical supervisor of a psychotherapy practice in central New York. In 2012, she co-authored and published one of the first mental health assessments utilized to assess youth readiness for medical treatment and gender transition. Sara spent the first part of her career as a clinician treating and advocating on behalf of youth and families surrounding issues with gender. She spent time traveling to teach and train medical facilities, physicians, and schools on how to provide what was then called "gender-affirming care." Sara has treated well over one hundred families, and she also wrote many of the first letters that were used to approve gender transition surgeries on minors.This conversation explores Sara's professional journey, her moments of doubt and realization, and her decision to speak up and raise awareness about the challenges and potential pitfalls in the field of gender-affirming care. She shares very candidly and courageously about her personal observations of shifts in the patient population, their evolving presentation, and the practices and perceptions around gender identity versus her training. She found herself increasingly uncomfortable with the ways in which certain practical and thoughtful considerations are being disregarded in the affirmation approach.This is an important discussion exposing the complexities faced by clinicians in the field and the need for more professionals to share their experiences and concerns openly. It is incredibly important to understand the perspectives of clinicians like Sara in order to shed light on the broader issues surrounding gender-affirming care.For more of our conversation with Sara Stockton, just out listener community here: https://www.patreon.com/WiderLensPodLinks:Sara Stockton on Twitter@MrsSaraStocktonAisling Therapywww.aislingtherapy.com Regrets of a Trans-Care Specialist | Sara Stockton | EP 342 (The Dr. Jordan B. Peterson Podcast)https://youtu.be/pCH-bUFR3WMWhat Is A Woman - Documentaryhttps://get.dailywire.com/wiaw/subscribe?utm_campaign=wiaw&utm_medium=paid&utm_source=googlesearch&utm_content=na_subscriptions&mid=g&cid=wiaw&xid=0&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoK2mBhDzARIsADGbjeqEP0BcW0Ra5VZWG5QBd-0HUvm1Ml74hJZYyCIv0DstImjcHSAX7loaAhLMEALw_wcB Changing the ConversationDr Hilary Cass OBE explores the challenging nature of developing holistic person-centred services for children and young people with gender... This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com