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Duckchicken makers Colleen O'Sullivan and James Mann are based in South London. Colleen is a certified Arborist and works as a Tree Officer in London and James works in "Knowledge" at a law office in London. Duckchickens Colleen and James Duckchicken is a home-based commercial cidery Imagine row houses with a first floor apartment and a second family above. Now imagine a "rented car" pulling up to the residential street and the husband and wife team of Duckchicken pulling out crates of apples to heft into ther home and stack in their hallway. During bottling season the hallway is filled with bottles. The kitchen which is no bigger than 10 feet by 12 feet becomes the packing room and measuring room during cidermaking season. Right outside the kitchen window, is a wooden shelving unit they built to hold 4- 300 liter IBC tanks and other cider vessels. This part of the back yard is called the "Light Well" and is found on many row homes in London. It is the space between another house and helps to provide light into the homes. As such, it also is a very temperate place to keep cider, getting neither too hot or too cold while the bulk cider is conditioning. Making Duckchicken in the Kitchen Duckchicken Cider Style is "East Country" East Country (as opposed to West Country, which is west of London and in the area of Herefordshire and Somerset, and the surrounding regions. The apples in East Country are more culinary than the classic bitter sharp and bitter sweet varieties sought by makers, but there are a number of very good varieties that Duckchicken uses. James in the Light Well of Duckchicken, right outside the kitchen window Duckchicken Apple Sources You could call it "The Boss Connection" that helped them find orchards. James was referred to "Linda's Orchard by his boss. And a second large orchard by another boss. Husband and Wife Team cider roles Colleen is the lead washer James is the lead scratter ] DERIC is an anagram for Cider Cidermaking Practices at Duckchicken They were inspired to make something they enjoy to drink, so No sugar added A hydro press is used for pressing Delivery is via a bicycle. If they have too, they will rent a car to deliver. During harvest season they rent a truck to bring the apples back to their home. Yeast? 1st year they experimented - with pitching or not - made 240 liters years the first year 2nd year - Pitched yeast into all cider 4-300 liter tanks 3rd year - the motto is "Let's just hope for the best" as they are doing both wild and pitched yeast. Ciders to look forward to in 2020 Gigglejuice 7% Blend of 50/50 blend of Edmond Russet and Bramley Easter Hill - single variety Cox's Orange Pippin - expect it to be acidic, fruity and some sparkle And a few blends still yet to be named so stay tuned. Find Duckchicken Cider - go to 43 minutes in to hear a description of each location. The Harp - near Traflago Square Spartan Brewery Caps and Taps Salt House Bottles - South London Joyce started by Salt House qwner with a great selection of ciders on tap - The Station House - north east England in Durham The Landlord and and Landlady of The Station House in Durham Mentions in this chat Jim Passed the Cider Entrance Exam Read his blog on passing the BJCP February 9, 2020 New York International Cider Competition New Designs at the Cider Chat Swag Store January 28-31th - CiderCon 2020 Oakland California Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Every Tuesday, when Steve was growing up, his Dad would be out that evening drinking cider with friends at the Cider Cellar, at the farm outside of Buffalo. That memory is his first on cider. Years later this professional musician and self taught cidermaker merged his love of the Finger Lakes and quality craftsmanship into South Hill Cider. In 2019, the brand new Tasting Room and Production facility for South Hill was opened. This new site provides a lovely setting to taste the large selection of South Hill Ciders and for Steve to manage his orchard that is just outside the door of the Tasting Room. In this Cider Chat with South Hill Cider Cider Books that informed Steve – Andrew Lea Randall Grahm's Been Doon So Long Starch test for checking an apple's stage of ripening Refractometer for checking sugar in an apple Repairing a leaky oak barrel Using oak barrels Visiting and hiking from the cidery to the Lick Brook Gorge What cider's are in Steve's fridge? Karen, Kendal, Steve and a box of beautiful Quince Contact Info for South Hill Cider Website: https://www.southhillcider.com/visit Address: 550 Sandbank Road, Ithaca, NY 14850 Mentions in this Cider Chat More Finger Lakes cider episodes Episode 196: Goat Zen to Cornell Episode 198: Becoming a Pomologist February 9, 2020 New York International Cider Competition New Designs at the Cider Chat Swag Store January 28-31th – CiderCon 2020 Oakland California

Good Life Farm was started in 2008. On this same spot of land overlooking Cayuga Lake after the barn was built, the Finger Lakes Cider House opened 6 years later in 2014. Both the farm and the Tasting Room and Cidery were founded by Melissa Madden and Garrett Miller. Much has changed over the years the past 11 years. Madden and Miller have parted way and what was once a corn field now stands an formidable barn. That barn houses the cidery in the lower level and a full service Tasting Room and Cider Store on the main floor . Brothers Jimmy and Garrett Miller There is now a pond in the center of the field, rotating crops, and a flock of geese that are both entertaining and semi watch dogs of the hawks overhead. This site is a destination stop that is worth taking your time to settle in drink cider, have a bit of food, and take in the beautiful surroundings. Kite and String Cider Flight with lunch Garrett Miller at the Cider Press In episode 96 of Cider Chat, Alex Kroh interviewed both Madden and Miller on the farming practice known as permaculture used at the farm on site called "Good Life". ] A well organized cidery! In this episode, I speak with Garrett on the journey of starting a business at 22, and looking back at lessons learn and the future of the Finger Lakes Cider House and Good Life Farm looking forward. This cylinder is used to freeze the neck of large bottles, so that they can be disgorged for Traditional Method Cider. Garrett's chat begins at 16:46 minutes in. Contact Fingers Lakes Cider House website: http://www.fingerlakesciderhouse.com/ telephone: 607-351-3313 email: [email protected] Good Life Farm website: http://www.thegoodlifefarm.org/ Mentions in this Chat February 9, 2020 New York International Cider Competition New Designs at the Cider Chat Swag Store January 28-31th - CiderCon 2020 Oakland California Thank you to the following producers for helping to sponsor Cider Chat's tour of the Finger Lakes CiderWeek! Bellwether Cider and Wine Black Diamond Cider South Hill Cider Finger Lakes Ciderhouse Redbyrd Cider Go to VisitIthaca.com/craft-cider/ to find the cidermakers by location. Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

"Everything about cider started for me in this old orchard, up the road." Says Eric. That abandoned orchard which first inspired Eric isn't there anymore, but he recalls the wild seedling trees that were growing in the hedgerow around the forgotten orchard. It was there that he found "the mother tree" which he took scion from and began grafting and eventually naming the future trees and their apples: Gnarled Chapman. Gnarled Chapman - a special variety found by Eric Shatt Eric Shatt and wife Deva Maas began planting apples tree in 2003. In 2013, they began selling their Redbyrd Orchard Cider brand commercially. Deva Maas Eric has a solid fermenting background having worked in the wine industry. He is also the Research Farm Manager at Cornell University, which is right down the road from where their Biodynamic Certified Farm is located. We begin this chat in the Pressing Room at their Burnett location. He uses a rack and cloth press, with an apple elevator that carries up to two boxes of apples to the scratcher that is situated above the press. It is a classic press that can be found in many New England mill houses. The Press at Redbyrd From the Pressing Room, we head up the hill to his original 1 acre orchard. Graft line at Redbyrd Says Eric, "The cider revival is going to hopefully bring back the orchards." Topics discussed in the Orchard M7 root stock for his particular orchard is a winning combination. Ashmeal Kernel's is a great apple for the Finger Lakes site. Apple tree tips for root stock and variety - Pick the right root stock for this site. What he has learned working at Cornell that helps him now? "…delving into the reality of growing apples. What does it mean to be a commercial apple grower. The day to day and what to watch out for." Two different kinds of mindset and two orchards - high density and free form-free standing Gnarled Chapman - Eric found this apple and named it "Gnarled Chapman" He then grafted the scion onto a tree in 2008 and grafted onto Bud9 This apple is a late October ripening variety Slight russet and pink blush Sweet and tannins, not sharp and a nice size Disease resistant Both Fedco in Maine and Indian Creek Farm in New York, sell scion of the Gnarled Chapman as does Eric. Cider Dinner at Hazelnut Kitchen Contact Redbyrd Orchard Cider Website: https://redbyrdorchardcider.com/ Find Redbyrd Cider: https://redbyrdorchardcider.com/cider-shop/ Mentions in this Chat New Designs at the Cider Chat Swag Store Diemand Egg Farm Cider Chat Patron Matts recommends the following cider yeasts for a fast ferment "Voss" and "Opshaug Kveik" strains from Norway. Matt writes that "these yeast go high and fast, yet no off flavors and the aromatics don't get stripped away. The fermentation temperature ranges between 85F and 100F! Says Matt, "It ages really nicely and quite quick, changing day to day." Thank you to the following producers for helping to sponsor Cider Chat's tour of the Finger Lakes CiderWeek! Bellwether Cider and Wine Black Diamond Cider South Hill Cider Finger Lakes Ciderhouse Redbyrd Cider Go to VisitIthaca.com/craft-cider/ to find the cidermakers by location. Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Where does a Cornell University Pomologist do upon retirement? They start a cidery, of course! Ian Merwin says, founding Black Diamond Cider, in Trumansburg, New York is his 4th career. He has lived in California, Chile, France and now on the west side of Cayuga Lake in the Finger Lakes Region of New York state. He and his wife Jackie settled 30 years ago on on the spot of land that is now Black Diamond Cider and Orchards. He moved here from California, and going to school for Pomology. After receiving his PhD in Pomology in 1997, he the was hired to do both research and teaching at Cornell University. After 27 year at that position, he retired from Cornell and the Merwins opened Black Diamond Cider that same year. From this sloping landscape they sell fruit and make cider. Do make a plan to visit Black Diamond and try their cider on tap and buy bottles to go.A Cider Blends at Black Diamond Topics discussed with Ian Nitrogen in the orchard. Do you need to add nutrients to an orchard? Says Ian, "Apple trees in general need very little nitrogen. Big Fruit (think large weighted apples) are created through the use of nitrogen and water. It might sell, but they aren't necessarily choice for cider." At Black Diamond they want apples that are medium size and have a concentration of flavor. The mythology about nutrients impact on apples. The amount of nitrogen we put on the fertilizer had absolutely no impact on the yeast available nitrogen on the fruit No yeast nutrients in Black Diamond "The more I tried to feed the yeast the more problems I have." Ripening Room - is a pole barn, with soy based foam 50 degrees for the ripening room Ripening Room at Black Diamond Starch hydrolysis in Apples What causes an apple to fall Push offs Abscisic acid (ABA) is a plant hormone I'm hunting down more info about this apple - Sunburst I thought was a UK apple. Ian says this is a cross between Gold Rush and Pristine. Contact for Black Diamond Cider Website: https://www.blackdiamondcider.com/ Address: 4675 Seneca Rd Trumansburg, NY 14886 eMail: [email protected] Thank you to the following producers for helping to sponsor Cider Chat's tour of the Finger Lakes CiderWeek! Bellwether Cider and Wine Black Diamond Cider South Hill Cider Finger Lakes Ciderhouse Redbyrd Cider Go to VisitIthaca.com/craft-cider/ to find the cidermakers by location. Mentions in this Chat February 9, 2020 New York International Cider Competition Cider Chat Swag Store at TeePublic Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

#ciderGoingUP is a favored hashtag that I have been using since the first year of this podcast, so it was a natural title for this milestone episode number 200. Some podcasters pod fade (end their shows quietly and never return), I on the other hand have plenty of episode cued up and ready to share - so this episode 200 is really just the beginning of more good cider cheer. As usual the Talking Pommes add their two cents here and there and Cider Chat fans share their rendition of the cider song "We Like Cider". The featured chat is a conversation with The Nose begins at 18 minutes in and helped direct this conversation as we looked back over Season 4 and to the future in 2020. Topics discussed with "The Nose" How our palate changes. One day we may want sweet and then the next day we embrace a "barnyard" style. What is the newest cider trend as seen at Franklin County CiderDays More wild yeast ferments or what is more technically called 'ambient yeast". The Dry Cider Trend is growing. Never underestimate the cider consumer. Is Cider Chat growing? How the apple breakdowns country politics and show us that we are all dealing with the same concerns and revelations about making cider. Terroir and how it is now being embraced by consumers and makers. How does a consumer know they are getting a quality product if the cider is packaged in a can. FAM tours are on the rise for Cider Chat - such as the recent tour to the Finger Lakes. Thank you to the following producers for helping to sponsor Cider Chat's tour of the Finger Lakes CiderWeek! Bellwether Cider and Wine Black Diamond Cider South Hill Cider Finger Lakes Ciderhouse Redbyrd Cider Go to VisitIthaca.com/craft-cider/ to find the cidermakers by location. Cider Delilah? 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour highlights More cider tours coming up in 2020. CiderCon2020 Parajo Valley Tour, England and France Contact [email protected] to get your name on the list for the upcoming 2020 tours Cider Chat Swag Store is open at Teepublic. Find t-shirt, hoodies, kids clothing and even smart phone cover cases with catchy cider sayings like: Marie Tanaka at Wine Styles Inc will share a summary of Cider Chat episodes in her blog, in Japanese on her blog. I will post the link once Marie's posts go live! Mentions in this Chat Spoke and Spy Ciderworks - Strawberry/Rhubarb cider An email from Marcel - the maker at www.degerdeneer.nl in the Nederlands Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Look for the new Ice Cider "Meadow Orchard" made with a blend of Erbachhofer, Trierer Weinapfel, and Rambo apples inCiderJapan, Japan's only bilingual magazine for all things cider. Get a subscription! Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : Check out their new tasting room in Watsonville. listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

In 1996 Bellwether Hard Cider and Wine Cellars opened for business in a repurposed chicken hatchery in upper New York state in the Finger Lakes regions surrounding Lake Cayuga. Now in its 23rd year of business, this family operation makes both cider, wine and is now planning to get into distilling. Bill Barton of Bellwether Cider This chat began outdoors under the covered porch outside the Tasting Room as a soft rain fell. Bill began as a home fermenter making 5 gallon batches of wine and cider and then scaled up to a 1500 gallons when he first started the cidery. Bellwether brings in juice from surrounding orchards and is even making cider for City Orchard based in Houston, Texas, slated to open in November 2019. "Yeast is not a particularly important component" Bill looks for the following in a balanced cider Acid Tannin Sugar He does not pitch any cultured yeast, but instead uses what is called an "Ambient" yeast - which I and other might call "wild yeast" in that it is what is found in both on the skin of the fruit and in the building. Serial #0000 from this one of a kind bottling line for 750ML 750ML Millennium line #0001 Twist Rinser: 12 ounce bottling line Bellwether Ciders ambient yeast back sweetened with sweet reserve "juice" only "if necessary" at bottling Juice from Finger Lakes orchards 6% alcohol by volume is what most ciders ring in at Bellwether ferments dry offers both carbonated and still Flagship ciders Original Liberty Spy - one of the top best sellers. A blend of Northern Spy and Liberty Lord Scudamore - is a Sparkling Cider that has been bottled conditioned for 5 years! Bit of a reverse scene for packaging product at Bellwether Bill started out with 12 ounce beer bottle - and now only does 750ML. What's in the future for Bellwether? Bill recently purchased a copper Alembic still from Normandy, France. He plans to move into distilling product once he gets to licensing. Normandy Still to be used at Bellwether Cider, once licensing is complete Contact for Bellwether Hard Cider and Wine Cellars Website: https://cidery.com Address: 9070 NY-89, Trumansburg, NY 14886 Telephone: 607-387-9464 Thank you to the following producers for helping to sponsor Cider Chat's tour of the Finger Lakes CiderWeek! Bellwether Cider and Wine Black Diamond Cider South Hill Cider Finger Lakes Ciderhouse Redbyrd Cider Go to VisitIthaca.com/craft-cider/ to find the cidermakers by location. Mentions in this Chat October 31st 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour November 1-3 - Franklin County Cider Days Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Gregory M. Peck of the School of Integrative Plant Science, College of Agriculture and Life Sciences at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York is the featured guest on episode 198. Greg in Peck lab Greg's chat begins at 21:00 minutes into episode 198. Before Greg's feature I am reminded by @e_of_blandings That now is the time to pick Medlars. If you have a photo of a medlar please send them my way to [email protected] and I will in turn post the photos on Cider Chat's social media, so we can all begin to increase our Medlar know how. At 8:23 minutes in, I read a letter from Cider Chat Patreon Supporter and Russian cidermaker Maxim Brekht. Maxim shares: a range of obstacles that commercial makers in his country have to maneuver around in order to produce cider. how the Peter Mitchel class informed him and what he is doing beyond the Mitchell class to improve his technical cider making skills. the Russian palate for cider is not so different from other burgeoning cider communities around the world. The Feature chat wth Greg Peck (at 21:00) Greg has been in his role as Professor of Pomology at Cornell, since 2015. Greg pointing to his door plaque that says, "Mad Scientist" under his name. Greg discusses his initial research project at Cornell Assessing the Economic Feasibility of Growing Specialized Apple Cultivars for Sale to Commercial Hard Cider Producers A bit on how the money works for grant writing a research project How the United Kingdom has about the same amount of acreage of apples as New York state. Says Greg Peck, "The cider industry is going to grow very rapidly" What are the best college studies to choose when working towards becoming a pomologist Find out more at the Cornell Hard Cider website: http://hardcider.cals.cornell.edu Follow Gregory Peck on Social Media Twitter: @DoctorApples Instagram: @applephd Thank you to the following producers for helping to sponsor Cider Chat's tour of the Finger Lakes CiderWeek! Bellweather Cider and Wine Black Diamond Cider South Hill Cider Finger Lakes Ciderhouse Redbyrd Cider Go to VisitIthaca.com/craft-cider/ to find the cidermakers by location. Mentions in this Chat October 31st 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour November 1-3 - Franklin County Cider Days Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Top 5 Picks for Franklin County CiderDays Franklin County CiderDays takes place on the first weekend of November every year as it has been for the past 25 years. Yes, this November 1-3, 2019 is the 25th Annual and the number of events taking place across the county are outstanding. Download CiderDays schedule Here are my Top 5 Picks if your time is limited and/or you are wondering what to do during this epic fest. In this chat we go with #5 to #1 5. 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour October 31st 8am - 6:30pm Start and End point Greenfield, MA 4. Cider Pub Sing 7:30 - 9pm November 1st 9pm The Crowning of Pomona with Judith Maloney of West County Cider Location: Episcopal Church Parish Hall, the back hall of Saint James Church 8 Church St, Greenfield, MA 3. Cider Salon, November 2nd 3:30 - 5:00 Cider Salon I: Tasting of Ciders from across N. America $35/ticket Unity Park, Turners Falls 5:45 - 7:15 Cider Salon II: Tasting of Ciders from across N. America $35/ticket Unity Park, Turners Falls 2. Peckville Road, Greenfield Take a drive up Peckville Road and stop at West County Cider and Apex Orchard Take a walk in the orchard Views looking out to New Hampshire and Mount Manadnock #1 Pick if you can only do one thing? Find the Apple Pretzels in each tree in the orchard at New Salem Preserves & Heritage Cider and see one of the oldest Perry Pear trees in the US! Location: 67 S Main St New Salem, Massachusetts Extra Bonus offerings at CiderDays to check out! Author Book Signings November 2 Ben Watson: Cider Hard and Sweet 2-3pm John Bunker Apples and the Art of Detection 4:30-5:30pm Michael Phillips The Hollistic Orchard, The Apple Grower, Mycorrhizal Planet 4:30-5:30 Location: Two Birds 106 Avenue A Turners Falls, Massachusetts 01376 413) 863-5782 Exhibit: 25 Years of CiderDays October 25 - November 6, 2019 Over twenty-five years, CiderDays has evolved to a three day, county-wide festival celebrating the apple in all of its forms and providing sessions on every aspect of apple usage. The Great Falls Discovery Center hosts an exhibition of historic cider presses and images that honor the orchards, producers and enthusiasts who have advanced the art of cidermaking. Sponsored by the Franklin County Chamber of Commerce. November 1-3, 2019. For a full schedule visit: ciderdays.org. Great Falls Discovery Center Hours: 10 am - 4pm Free Location: 2 Avenue A Turners Falls MA 01376 413-863-3221 Mentions in this Chat The Cider Journal 2015 - questions for Cider Chat Ria's CiderDays Feature in Brewing News Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Audio snap shots of the cider region of Cayuga Lake, a 38 mile long lake located in the Finger Lakes region of New York state. CiderweekFLX took place September 27- October 6, 2019. This region has: 10 cider producer surrounding the 43 mile lake Go to https://ciderweekflx.com/flx/locations/ to find the cidermakers by location. Two colleges - Ithaca and Cornell Over 150 waterfalls within 10 miles of Ithaca. Look for Cascadilla Falls (20') within walking distance of downtown Ithaca In this chat we begin with the origins of the Finger Lakes from Kendall Blizzard the Agriculinary Tourism Marketing Coordinator at Ithaca/Tompkins County Convention & Visitor's Bureaus . Kendall and I rode about all week long taking in this magnificent cider region and I thank her for her steady driving and good cheer. Then we meet Beth Duff, Visitor Experience Specialist at Taughannock Falls (215' tall - taller than Niagara Falls). Taghannock Falls Beth Duff - Ithaca got Cider After our overview with Betty, we next chat with Susanne Messmer of Lively Run Goat Dairy. Her son Pete is making award winning cheeses. Susanne Messmer - Lively Run Goat Dairy Our final chat is with Deborah Cooper a Digital and Special Collections Librarian Coordinator of Library Services to Cornell AgriTech, Geneva NY at the Albert R. Mann Library, Cornell University Here are some essential URLS for cider at Mann Library: Biodiversity Heritage Library collection: Pomology: Apples and Cider https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/collection/apples Link to the Vavilov Paintings https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/249788#page/1/mode/1up Link to the Herefordshire Pomona, 1876 https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/248646#page/7/mode/1up CHLA Core Historical Literature of Agriculture https://digital.library.cornell.edu/collections/chla Hive and the Honeybee https://digital.library.cornell.edu/collections/bees Mann Library digital exhibit: Apples to Cider https://exhibits.library.cornell.edu/cider Mann Library Tumblr https://mannlibrary.tumblr.com/ The Pomona Herefordiensis https://mannlibrary.tumblr.com/search/pomona Thank you to the following producers for helping to sponsor Cider Chat's tour of the Finger Lakes CiderWeek! Bellweather Cider and Wine Black Diamond Cider South Hill Cider Finger Lakes Ciderhouse Redbyrd Cider Mentions in this Chat October 31st 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour November 1-3 - Franklin County Cider Days Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube [app_audio src="https://ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/196-Goat-Zen-to-Cornell-_-FLX-NY.output.mp3"]

Look close into the label and you will see, words of wisdom, fun and glee! ...There are no surprises, just a straight up fact - this cider contains - 0% Shit Episode 195 features a chat with John Michael Leslie Edwards, the maker/owner at Fly Be Night Cider, in the United Kingdom. John is also the cidermaker at Ross Cider and Perry Company also in the UK and has been working at their Broome Farm orchard based in Ross on Wye in Herefordshire for the past 20 years. John the cider maker In this chat we discuss John's early introduction to fermentation via a Mrs. Wheeler. Having a brand within a brand - which is kind of a secret branding thing and I like it. What's next for for Fly Be Night How to find Fly Be Night John makes 5 barrels of his cider and it sell out every year. All of John's cider is bottle conditioned Say's John, "The most important thing is to eliminate hurry. With cider making you have to be patient." John gifted me this tea cloth - Thank You John! Mentions in this chat Finger Lakes Cider Week 2019 - September 27-October 6 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour October 31, 2019 Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Episode 194: The Reason for Being | Ross on Wye Cider & Perry, UK Mike Johnson grew up on Broome Farm picking up apples with his grandmother, in the rural country known as Herefordshire in the United Kingdom. Thirty Five years ago cider began being made and sold commercially at the farm. More recently Mike and son Albert, who came back to the farm after finishing university to help with their brand Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company, began working together to continue to build the family's cider profile up with a huge volume of dry ciders and perrys. Mike seeing a smiling Talking Pomme looking back up at him. And it should be mentioned that, Albert's younger brother, Martin is in hospitality and it looks like there is a very good possibility that he also will become a full on member of the Ross Cider Team. Herefordshire (a county) is one of the most sparsely populated regions in England. It is about 3 hours to the west of London. It also has the largest concentration of cider apples. A good many orchards were planted to supply cider giant Bulmers at one time, something that Mike feels benefited the whole region. The Johnson's are no longer selling their apples to Bulmers which is now owned by Heineken. Instead, they are full on making cider for their own brand. I first had a bottle of their cider in 2015 and fell madly in love with the quality of that single bottle. It has since been my mission to drink more Ross Cider :) and meet the team, which brings us to this recording which took place in August of 2019. Thanks to the help and encouragement of Duckchicken Cider in London and Ross Cider, I was able to spontaneously make plans to attend the 2019 Ross Cider Fest held on August 30th to September 1st. I camped in the orchard for 3 nights at this cider and music fest. The Ross Cider Fest was originally a one day event, starting over 20 years ago. At the time Albert was a young boy. Now 24 years of age, he is full on in the management of this widely popular fest. Cider Chat Meeting the Makers at Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company A couple years back, Mike bought the Yew Tree Pub which is located on the main road, next to Broome Farm. This venue is now selling more cider that beer! Which is unbelievably still a unique fact in the United Kingdom for most pubs. In this chat we discuss: The Ross Cider Fest - Mike likens the good feelings at the festival due to the serving of natural drinks, without all the chemicals. The Bulmers Impact The first orchards at Broome Farm were planted for Bulmers in 1978 Between now and 2001 there are 45 acres of bush orchards 10 acres of standard trees and perry pears. Says Mike, "The great thing about Bulmers - they are responsible for so many trees [in the region] and research." Cider Styles being made by Ross Cider Bottle condition Still Carbonated Kegged I particularly liked how Mike described the cider styles at Ross. Typically, makers separate their styles as sweet, semi sweet and dry. At Ross Cider they don't like sweet or sugary cider. They make their cider and perry dry. At any given time they might have 87 different kinds of cider to try. Some are blends, but most are single or two varieties of apples. While I was there Albert said they had 18 single variety ciders. He says, "It might be less complex [a single variety cider] but, it takes you on a journey to discover what a cider apple can do. Mike adds, "Grab a bunch of single varieties and open them all at once, with friends, and then start blending." Says Albert, "We'd be bored if we had to drink the same cider all year." This is the unique quality of these makers that makes this cidery so special. Each single variety cider allows you to truly discover the essence of that apple. It does take you on a journey and it is one that many cider drinkers have yet to discover. If you can, do attend the Ross Cider Fest held every year at the end of the summer. And by the way, these makers won were awarded the BBC Food and Farming for 2019! Contact Info for Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company Website: https://rosscider.com/ For general and cider enquiries: [email protected] For Yew Tree related enquiries: [email protected] For Yew Tree adult only caravan & motorhome enquiries: [email protected] For Broome Farm family friendly & group camping enquiries:[email protected] Telephone: 01989 562 815 Address: The Yew Tree Inn, Peterstow, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, HR9 6JZ Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

A Museum for Cider, Cider Mythology of May Hill and Cider Loving Fans are all featured in this episode. This is the third episode of Cider Chat featuring my trip to the United Kingdom. Go to episode 192: London Got Cider and 193: Barrel Smoker, Cheese & Cider for a wide angle view on a one week whirl wind tour to England. Like all episodes I like to begin with "News Out and About in Ciderville" reminding you to sign up now for the 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour rolling out of Greenfield Massachusetts on October 31, 2019. This cider tour helps kick off the 25th Annual Franklin County CiderDays on November 1-3, 2019. Then two emails from Patrons of Cider Chat. Travis from Wisconsin and Jamie from Washington. Featured in 193 Elizabeth Pimblett is the Cider Director at the Cider Museum in Herefordshire The museum was started in 1972 by Burchon Bulmer and Henry Weston of Weston, and Professor Hudson from the Long Ashton Research Station. The goal to capture the story of ciders at the time. Elizabeth Pimblett of the Herefordshire Cider Museum The museum opened in 1982. Elizabeth is from Herefordshire so taking on this job was a perfect fit for her. But what really inspired her was the art history already at the museum. What is a cider flute? A glass used to drink cider. Think a fluted glass classically used to drink champagne. The early flutes were very large. Next up is a chat with Dick Witcombe of Manchester, England. He and wife Cath Potter are cider enthusiasts who twitter accounts I have been following for a while, for both inspiration and good cheer! It was a pleasure to finally meet them both. If only Alfie the dog didn't howl so much during the chat, we could have heard more from Cath who just became a Pommelier! :) "] Dick and Cath and Alfie the dog Listen next to Gabe Cook, who authored a book in 2018 titled The Ciderologist as he tells the story and mythology behind May Hill. The final feature is with two cider enthusiasts from Wales, Ed and Beck. They discovered Broome Farm where Ross Cider is located 10 years ago. Listen as they share a fun story of the Brockhampton Perry blend.

Kate and Toby Lovell are raising Shropshire Sheep and Friesian Sheep at Handcocks Meadow Farm The Shropshire Sheep don't debark trees which make them excellent for use in orchards. They also have a flock of Friesian Sheep for cheese making. This chat was recorded at the Ross Cider Fest, based in Ross on Wye, in Herefordshire in the United Kingdom. The fest took place August 30- September 1, 2019 and has been an annual fest for the past 20 years. I was quite taken by all the volunteers who helped set up the festival and the vendors such as Handcocks Meadow Farms. The first conversation in this episode was at the covered sheep trailer that was set up for serving Hancocks Meadow Farm smoked lamb. Meet Harriet, David, and Sullivan who were serving up smoked lamb. Then we talk with Toby Lovell, who was manning the oak barrel smoker. Toby Lovell with barrel While the barrel is closed, it is perfect for holding glasses and bottles of cider...of course Ross Cider ;) The set up is basic and yet the outcome is exotic - leaving me hungry for the next time I come across the Lovell's and their perfectly smoked lamb. Pauline, Kate's mum, makes cheese from the milk of the herd of Friesains on the farm. Pauline and Kate using a Dutch cheese knife Cheese scale The final mini chat is with Albert Johnson of Ross Cider with a little help from his border collie, Norman. And, I read a mini letter from John the cider maker at Ross Cider, who also happens to have a very long name, but for now we will call him John Edwards. Mentions in this Chat 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour Oct 31, 2019

Here is the first dispatch from the United Kingdom, specifically London where my journey began. "The Talking Pommes" (The Medlars, Mr. Quince, Perry Pear) and I arrived at Heathrow and went our separate ways. The Pommes headed off to Buckingham Castle to meet the Queen and I headed east to London to meet with Felix Nash. Felix is the owner of Fine Cider based in London. This business is called "cider merchant" in the UK or what would be called a distributor in the US. He has just finished a book called "Fine Cider" and it will be released in October of this year. Later that same day I met up with Colleen O'Sullivan and James Mann of Duckchicken Cider. They were the catalyst for this trip to the UK and offered to host me at their home in South London. Stay tuned for a full episode with this dynamic couple who are making cider commercially in their home! James Mann & Colleen O'Sullivan - Duckchicken Cider One of the highlights with Colleen and James was enjoying a "Train Beer" is a popular term used in the UK when one imbibes on the train. For me I was more interested in a "Train Cider" which we did have while making our way to the Royal Oak Pub in London. My final day in London I met up with Roberto Basilico the Head Cidermaker at The Hawkes Cidery and Taproom. He presents two styles of cider being made at this both modern and traditional cidery. Roberto Basilico - Hawkes Cidery and Taproom Mentioned on this chat 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour October 31, 2019

In 1968, Carol B. Hillman bought a colonial era estate that overlooked the Quabbin Reservoir, Boston's water source, in New Salem, Massachusetts. Originally attracted to the home onsite which is a classic colonial style home with a fire place in every room and a large hearth for cooking, she and her husband set to task to renovating the home to its full glory. At the same time, she also began bringing the 2 orchards back. Carol B. Hillman serving cider The two orchards named "Lawerence and Clara" after Carol's first grandchildren are all standard trees. Many of the trees are over 150 years old. Many of the same people that Carol originally worked with are still with her today, like Steve Wiseman who helps with the orchard and New Hampshire pruner Brad Maloney. Brad considers the orchard his museum piece. Over the past 30 years he has added his own special touch by using the water sprouts and bending them into what he calls Apple Pretzels, as seen in photo below. Apple Pretzels During Franklin County CiderDays this orchard is open on both Sunday and Saturday to family and friends with workshops on all things apple and cider. This is always an outdoor fire, food and crafts. Carol has always called her fresh pressed apple juice "Cider" or "Sweet Cider" She destains the term apple juice, which to Carol means canned juice that is over pasteurizes and stripped of all the rich flavors that can only be found in orchard pressed juice. In 2019, the orchard became licensed to ferment cider into "hard cider". William Grote, an award winning cidermaker from Boston, travels out to New Salem each week to make cider. William Grote outside the CiderMill at New Salem Preserves and Heritage Cider In short order, an outdoor space was made for visitors to sit in called the Cider Garden. Today, you can order a glass and take a seat or walk about with glass in hand into the orchard. Current Ciders on Tap or take in a crowler (32 ounce) to go. Redfield, Reine de Pomme, and Macintosh (6.0%) Macintosh, Northern Spy, Empire Blend (6.0%) More Apple Products at New Salem Preserves Gift box of 18 apples and a jar of strawberry jam - dried in the solar cooker attached to the bar, Apple Cider Vinegar Cider Donuts Apple Butter Sweet Cider - unfermented apple juice Hard Cider Contact for New Salem Preserves and Heritage Cider Website: http://www.newsalempreserves.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newsalemcider/?ref=br_rs Address: 67 S Main St New Salem, Massachusetts 01355 Telephone: (978) 544-3437 Mentions in this Chat 003 Robert Colnes : Building a Ciderhouse Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Put Cider in the Penny was recorded at SILO Distillery in Windsor, Vermont in August of 2019. I had been wanting to catch up with Nicole LeGrande Leibon, every since she moved on from making cider at Farnum Hill Cider in Lebanon, New Hampshire. She arrived at SILO to make cider in late 2018. She quickly got SILO set up with a Semi dry cider (sold in cans) and a Bourbon Barrel Aged cider (sold in 750ml bottles). In additon to her role as cidermaker, she has also stepped into the role of assistant distiller under Erin Bell. Erin Bell began working at SILO working the marketing end of things, but found herself distilling in 2015. Erin Bell and Nicole LeGrande Leibon | SILO Distillery SILO was founded in 2012 and is situated in the Artisan Park, that is also home to a number of craft producers, like Harpoon Brewery (which also has City Roots Cider) and Blake Hill Preserves and Vermont Cheese Company. The location is right off of Interstate 91 and there is a Tasting Room that is open year round. In this chat we learn a bit about Erin's background and approach to distilling along with how Nicole has integrate the copper still into helping her with reductive cider. Reductive cider will often smell eggy and though there is nothing wrong with the cider, the eggy off smells must be removed. One solution to removing the off odor is to add a copper penny to one's cup. For a cider maker like Nicole who is managing a whole lot of cider, the SILO copper still came in very handy for removing the off odor. But she tell it best so go to 40 minutes in this recording and find out how she put the "Cider in the Penny". SILO's still Carl Still from Germany 350 gallon hybrid pot and column still 4 plate finishing plate 21 plate vodka column Extended helmet gin run for flavorings Says Erin, "The harder you make the spirit work, the cleaner it gets. We collect the heart of the run - throwing away the rest." Barrel Program at SILO using 10 - 15 gallon barrels 30 gallons for the bourbon All the barrels are from Green Mountain Grain and Barrel based in Richmond vermont SILO bourbon is aged for 20 months #ciderGoingUp at SILO SILO is planning on increasing cider production 50% this Fall 2019! Contact For SILO Distillery Website: https://www.carl.info/en/distillation-facilities/ Address: 3 Artisans Way Windsor, Vermont 05089 SILO SUMMER HOURS Sunday – Thursday 11am – 6pm Friday – Saturday 11am – 7pm +1 (802) 674 4220 [email protected] UP COMING Cider Tours 2nd Annual New England Cider Tour - October 31, 2019 Sign up by sending an email to [email protected] SILO is our finally stop of the day on this one-day tour Tour and Tasting at Farnum Hill Lunch, Tour and Tasting at Fable Farm Fermentory Tin Hat Cider will be at Fable Farm Mentions in the Chat Get Ready for Cidermaking - don't forget your yeast - order it now! Bear Swamp Cider - is making Apple Brandy New Salem Preserves, in New Salem Massachusetts is making cider! Artifact Cider is now open in Florence, Massachusetts Eden Specialty Ciders now has a 4pack of Harvest Cider - yum yum definitely get these cans! Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Haven't downloaded this episode yet? Here it is again for your listening pleasure. [app_audio src="https://ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/188-Put-the-Cider-in-the-Penny.mp3"]

Before our Popelouchum Safari, hear about... Two New Cider Zines We begin with an overview of Graftwood and Full Juice, two new cider zines out of the United Kingdom. Graftwood is a subscription based quarterly whereas Full Juice is a free grab and go available only in the UK. Both are worthy reads and a great sign of #ciderGoingUP. New England Cider Tour October 31, 2019 One day cider tour launches from Greenfield, Massachusetts and heads north to Vermont and New Hampshire before returning back to Greenfield, New Cider Chat Patron A big tip of the glass to Ambrosia who just became the newest patron of Cider Chat at the Cider Chat Patreon page. Ambrosia is the General Manager of The Northman, a Chicago based cider bar. Featured Chat - Cider & Wine Safari w/Randall Grahm at Popelouchum Randall Grahm What is Popelouchum? Popelouchum, is located just outside of downtown San Juan Bautista, California. There are 280 acres or is it 400 acres? I'm not sure, nor do I think that it matters, at least not to this story. And there have been lots of stories about Popelouchum since Randall Grahm purchased this swath of land that rises from a low lying plain, bordered on one end by the San Andreas Fault, to a high mountain top back in 2011. This chat isn't so much about Popelouchum, though it provides a magnificent backdrop. This chat is an intimate conversation that covers at least 4 bottles drunk during this recording and the highs and lows of being in the business of both wine and cider. Perry Pears at Popelouchum I had asked to tour Popelouchum, because who wouldn't want to see Randall's vision for terroir based wine, and to share with him a bottle of 2017 Cormé made by French cidermaker, Eric Bordelet. This chat opens with us discussing Cormé which is also known as Sorbus Domestic a.k.a. Service Tree. Then we move onto discussing Bordelet's cidermaking technique. Perhaps it was the Cormé that inspired Randall to announce that he thinks he may have cracked the secret to Bordelet's technique for making such fine ciders. You won't know if it is truly an unveiling of Bordelet's technique unless you try your hand at what Randall offers as a possibility of uncovering Bordelet's secrets. And that will take a whole lot of practice or as Eric says, "It took me 15 years to discover how to make cider and I am still learning." After we musing over the Cormé, Randall opened three very special bottles of small batch wines. 2017 bottle of 1/2 Grenache Blanche and 1/2 Grenche Gris (only 30 gallons were made) 2014 Bien Nacido Sangria Reserve, made in 5 gallon glass carboys, on the lees and bottled without filtration. The conversation then moved onto branding and sustaining one's brand. This is an intimate and often humorous discussion with one of America's premier winemakers and wine personalities, who also happens to like pommes and I hope will continue to work with both. Popelouchum high point Contact info for Popelouchum Website: https://www.popelouchum.com/ Listen to Season One interview with Randall Grahm Episode 12 Randall Grahm | Bonnydoon Vineyard, California

"We Want More Cider" was clearly the take away heard from cider enthusiasts attending the annual Hard Core Cider Tour held in Santa Cruz, California June 27, 2019. Sipping Syndicate's Albert Martinez spearheaded the Hard Core Cider Tour five years ago in 2014, offering a tasting event with local makers regionally in California. Fest goers get a cup and as open taps throughout the 3 hour event. On the way out The Core Store offers an opportunity for exiting patrons to buy bottles to go from the producers attending....thus completing their dream of getting More Cider! Albert Martinez, Founder of Hard Core Cider Tour The Santa Cruz Hard Core Cider Tour will be followed by one in Santa Barbara in September, San Diego in early October and San Luis Obispo in late October. Want More Cider? These yearly fest provide the perfect opportunity to try More Cider! Albert Martinez is featured in this chat along with the following cider producers: Indigeny Reserve Angela of Indigeny Reserve Tin City Cider Co. Blindwood Cider Drew | Blindwood Cider Ten Five One Cider Company South City Ciderworks Hemly Cider ] Sara Hemley | Hemley Cider Check out the annual Pear Fair held the last Sunday of July in Courtland, California. This year the Pear Fair is held on July 28, 2019. Cider Enthusiasts who Want MORE CIDER at the Hard Core Cider Tour Anna Hummer Becky Kayla Jay Samantha Fall - CIDER TOUR Signup Now New England Cider Tour October 31st - rolls out of Greenfield, Massachusetts for a one day tour of regional makers. This is the 2nd annual cider tour. If you would like to go, send an email to [email protected] - put New England Cider Tour in the subject heading. Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

"Just Fucking Fermented Juice" is splayed out in big white letter across the back of Krista Scruggs' black hoodie. The slogan both amuses and taunts gawkers. Krista wore the hoodie with slogan while attending the annual United States Association of Cider Makers conference in Chicago in January of 2018, called CiderCon. I don't know if she wore it in the airport on her way to the conference - I am hoping that she did. Don't get me wrong, there is no win in upsetting the delicate minds of society who know nothing about cider. There is however, big gains in making people think or as my cider friends in the UK would say #rethinkcider. She presented on two panels while at the conference, one for Still Cider and another on Cultural Diversity. In this episode 186, she was welcomed as a special guest at the Pomme Boots Society meeting. Krista Scruggs of Zaffa Wine Krista Scruggs is turning heads, but it's not about the hoodie. It is her wines that is catapulting her out into the media spotlight. She has been featured as one of the Top 40 Under 40 Taste Makers 2018 in Wine Enthusiast and Krista Scruggs is Making the Most Exciting, Most Delicious Natural Wines Right Now | Bon Appêtit (Jan 2019). Now living in Vermont, having worked with Dierdre Heekin of La Garista she is making wine and cider fermented with grape skin/pomace under her own label ZAFA Wine. Listen to episode 185: Who are the Pomme Boots? Episode 185 provides an overview of the Pomme Boots and is the first half of the same meeting that hosted Krista Scruggs. Caitlin Brahm, Brand Specialist for Angry Orchard, interviews Krista during this recording. Krista's interview snap shots: Tidbits of her family's history and her path to becoming a winemaker Hiring women The meeting then moves onto a Q&A with Pomme Boots Founders Jana Daisy-Ensign and Jennie Dorsey Mentions in this Chat Deirdre Heekin - La Garagista, Vermont Shacksbury, Vermont Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat

Who are the Pomme Boots? The Pomme Boots Society was founded in 2015 an organization for women working in the cider industry. The first meet up of Pommes Boots was at CiderCon2016 held in Portland, Oregon. This episode was recorded at the Pomme Boots meeting held at CiderCon2019, an annual cider conference hosted by the United States Association of Cider Makers Pomme Boots meeting at CiderCon2016 Pomme Boots Founders Gemma Schmit - Taphouse Manager at Alter Ego Cider Jennie Dorsey - Chief Cider Curator at Schilling Cider in Portland Jana Daisy-Ensign - formally brand ambassador at Finn River Pomme Boots Team Members (ltor) Jennie, Gemma, Caitlin, Jana In this Chat, Caitlin Brahm, begins introductions, while Gemma in watching virtually. Then Jennie and Jana speak. What is Pomme Boots working on and asking you for help with? A call for volunteers Creating a crowd source pages for sharing resources linkable via the Facebook page Job opportunities Video conferencing Become a nonprofit Building a new website Education Member directory/Travel Directory Mentorship Building local chapters Posting boards for more in-depth conversations Contact for Pomme Boots Pomme Boots Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pommeboots/ Mentions in this Chat Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company wins BBC Best Drinks Producer for 2019 at the BBC Food and Farming Awards held in June 2019. Subscribe to InCiderJapan - the Summer edition is now out from this bilingual cider magazine (Japanese and English). Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22-28, 2019 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

The feature on cider judging in this week's episode begins at 9:43 minutes. The 7th annual BigE Cider and Perry competition took place on June 8, 2019. There were 6 cider judges and this episode features the judging of the Best in Show. Cider Panel A Ria Windcaller Mike Shay Tim Post Cider Panel B Ben Watson Mark Gryska Michelle Pagano Write up on Judges https://www.thebige.com/p/competitions/food--beverage/cider/cider-and-perry-competition-judges Ria's Cider Judging Summary Decide beforehand "The protocol?" is everyone in agreement to that protocol? Judging is not about what you like as a judge, but "Is the cider made well?" Leave your ego at the door. What can be Best in Show? If the competition is open to all styles, then every style is a viable competitor to be a Best in Show for that competition. Judges at BigE2019 Mentions in this Chat July 19-20, 2019 Streatham Cider Shack more info at @cidershacksw16 or email [email protected] Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22-28, 2019 Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Normandy Cider Trail Tips Annie Sargent is the Producer and Host of a fantastic and informative podcast for anyone thinking about traveling to France called "Join Us in France Travel Podcast". In this episode, Annie and I do duel recordings to share with both of our podcast audiences. I get to share my passion for French Cider [cidre] and Perry [poiré] and provide both Ciderville, Annie, and the Join Us in France audience a taste of the Normandy Cider Trail with tons of tips! Topics covered in this chat What is cidre? What is Poiré? Why make this a destination in France? Tips for preparing for a cider tour to Normandy Key towns and Routes in Normandy Route du Cidre - Pays d'Auge - renown cider apples 9non eating apples0. This region requires 100% cider apples in the cidre to be distilled into Calvados for the Pays d'Auge Appellation Route du Poiré - Domfrontais - renown Perry Pears, specific pear varieties used for fermenting into Poiré and Calvados. This region must have at the minimum 35% Poiré distilled into Calvodos for the Domfront Appellation Key sights to see White cliffs of Etretat WWII cemeteries Mont Saint Michel Museé du Poiré Join Ria and cider fans September 22-28, 209 for a Totally Cider Tour to Normandy. This special curated cider tour is fill with sight seeing trips, time to go solo and wander about and a bounty of cider. Winner Winner of The Cider Insider: 100 Craft Ciders to Drink Now is Ironbark Cider in Claremont California! I happened to also record an episode with Cat Fleming at Ironbark! Check it out 142: SoCal Irreverence at Ironbark | Claremont, CA Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Discover traditional straw pressing of cider at Sandford Orchards with Barny Butterfield based in Devon. Traditional Straw Pressing Notes: The press is made up with a combination of thatching reeds. If you are familiar with a classic rack and cloth press used today in cider making, the straw press is set up using: The Reed as the rack and Barely straw is the cloth At Sandford Orchards they can press up to 2 tons of crushed apples on one press As Barny says, "We do it in the Devon way." with a press that has only one center screw on the press. In the other region of the UK known as Somerset, they use a press with 2 screws. It takes 3 parts of a day to build up the crushed apple with the straw on this press. Find the full show notes for Episode 182 at CiderChat.com Direct Link at: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/182-straw-pressed-cider/ Listen to wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 Enjoy cider? Help keep #ciderGoingUP - by supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.

The Cider Insider | 100 Craft Ciders to Drink Now This chat with Susanna and James Forbes was recorded at CiderCon2019, the annual trade conference hosted by the American Cider Association known at that time as the United States Association of Cider Makers. Susanna & James Forbes It was at CiderCon2018 when I first had the opportunity to sit down for a chat with Susanna and James. Listen to that chat on episode 126 Little Pomona's Big Ciders | Hereford, UK They started selling cider under their brand name Little Pomona in 2015. James has been involved in the wine trade for quite a while and is now the Chairperson of the Three Counties Cider and Perry Association. Susanna has been writing about craft libations since 2000. She writes for Imbibe magazine and sill uses the Twitter handle @drinkbritain. Her recent book The Cider Insider is what prompted this sit down chat and the fact that I adore the Forbes and always love hearing about and tasting their newest cider. Little Pomona Cider Tasted during this chat Hazy Ways Part 1 7.4% alcohol by volume Apples used: 91% Dabinet and some Elias Bitter 750 ML cider – bottle conditioned Like all the ciders that I have had with the Forbes, James did a "Shake to Wake" of this bottle, which allows the sediment on the bottom of the bottle to come into solution before pouring, much like one would do with a Hefeweizen beer. You can also pour the cider without Shaking to Wake. But why, when tipping the bottle carefully back and forth is so much fun?!? What's up at Little Pomona? They are expanding the cidery and building a Tasting Room next to the orchard! Contact info for Little Pomona Website: http://www.littlepomona.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat International Cider and Perry Competition – Herefordshire, UK Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22-28, 2019 Follow @ahston1848 on Twitter a UK cider enthusiast – and his website https://www.ciderbuzz.co.uk/

180: Cider Is Wine | Simon Day of Once Upon a Tree, UK This chat was recorded at CiderCon2019 in Chicago. Simon Day and I did not speak directly on the topic of the "Cider is Wine" debate, but I do suspect that his early upbringing which was intrenched in the wine culture certainly informs him today. When Simon was 2 his father got a job working at a vineyard, and that vineyard also had apple and pears growing there too. On May 20th - 22nd of 2019 he is attending the London Wine Fair with the "Cider is Wine Alliance", a newly formed non profit group based in the UK whose mission is to create a new quality drinks category for ciders & perries produced from 100% apples and pears. Simon Day, opening a bottle of "Chapel Pleck" a champagne method Perry Simon's own background before starting Once Upon a Tree led him to work globally in the business of wine both in the UK to the Pacific Northwest, Australia and on the Channel island of Jersey, which is right off the coast of Normandy. Jersey by the way has a rich cider making history too. When Simon eventually returned to England, he settle close by the original vineyard. The house was surrounded by orchards. Like most major life changes there is a pivotal moment in time that can change your life's trajectory and for Simon it was attending The Big Apple Association tasting in the same town where he lived. In 2007 he started pressing and using the same press, a Voran mill and press, that he had been using in Guernsey. That year he made 3 different ciders and entered them into the International Perry and Cider Competition in 2008. They won first place for all 3 categories Today, Once Upon a Tree is both making Cider, Perry, Ice Pear Wine and providing other cider makers both juice and cider. Shacksbury based in Vermont was the first to use cider from Once Upon a Tree. Shacksbury uses 25% of their UK juice to blend into Shacksbury's Dry Cider. In this chat Simon served a 2014 Marcle Ridge cider and a champagne method perry called Chapel Pleck, both outstanding ciders. Contact info for Once Upon a Tree Website: https://shop.haygrove-evolution.com/ eMail: mailto:[email protected] Address: Haygrove Evolution Little Marcle Road, Ledbury, Herefordshire, HR82JL Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22-28, 2019 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

Tasty Southern Ciders at James Creek A cider dinner recording from CiderCon2019 in Chicago with Ann Marie and David Thornton of James Creek Cider House in Cameron, North Carolina. The main featured chat begins at 17 minutes into this chat. Before this main feature hear an email from a Russian cidermaker, helping us learn a bit more about the cider culture in this region of the world. Maxim contacted me when he became a patron of Cider Chat via the Cider Chat Patreon page. The Journey to James Creek Cider House Ann Marie and David Thornton moved to North Carolina in 2002. What got the Thorntons into cider? Ann Marie says, "It was the apples. And reading about Lee Calhoun" Then it turned out the Lee lived about 30 minutes from the Thorntons! They began planting apples trees in 2009, putting in 60 classic southern apple varieties. At CiderCon2019 David was elected onto the board for the United States Association of Cider Makers (USACM), now known as the American Cider Association. Anne Marie & David Thornton The Thorntons have an experimental orchard is based at their home site, and as of this recording they were in the midst of building a Tasting Room at an off site orchard in the area – which is now completed! In the meanwhile, if you are in or headed to North Carolina go to this link to find out where you purchase some James Creek Ciders. Two Cider labels at James Creek James Creek Heritage Ciders, bottled in 750ML glass presentations! Stargazer series Provides a compliment of modern style ciders. Read: fruit ciders and not just any fruit ciders but peaches and berries from their farm! We sipped on the Prowling Peach, a barrel aged cider with peach juice. I was over the moon for this cider. Plus, peach is not an easy fruit to work with! All of James Creek Ciders were super tasty and you definitely can tell made with a ton of affection for the process. All the apples come from within an area of 100-150 miles and are North Carolina grown. Newly elected Board members at CiderCon2019. (ltor) Michelle McGrath, ACA, Eleanor Leger - Eden Cider, Ben Calvi - Vt Cider Co, David Thornton-James Creek Cider House Contact for James Creek Cider House Website: http://www.jamescreekciderhouse.com eMail: [email protected] Address: 172 US-1 Highway Cameron, NC 28326 Telephone: (910) 245-9901 FaceBook page: https://www.facebook.com/jamescreekciderhouse/ Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tours Andrew Lea's cider making book

178: WWII and Cider | Paying Tribute on Tour Midweek on the Totally Cider Tour to Normandy our first stop of the day was to tour the Brittany American Cemetery also referred to as the Saint James Cemetery. It is located approximately an hour from Mont-Saint-Michel, 3.5 hours from Paris. It lies not in Brittany, but just north of the region in Normandy. Photo: Sergeant C. Orton of The Highland Light Infantry of Canada drinking cider, France, 20 June 1944. The cemetery is managed by: American Battle Monuments Commission - honors the services of overseas U.S. Armed Forces by maintaining and promoting America's overseas commemorative cemeteries and memorials. This commission was created in 1923 to commemorate US war dead. The Cemetery overview 4,408 gravesite at this cemetery all men are bored at this cemetery only family members were buried together only cemetery constructed in a predetermined shape taken from the shoulder patch. The tour at this cemetery was conducted by the superintendent of the cemetery Dave Bedford who said "Cemeteries are more than grass, hedges and tress. They are about guys buried here." The majority of people who visit the cemetery are French. The cemetery land is owned by France, who has granted the US use of the land. On the front of each headstone the following is listed for each solider. Name Rank Unit State where the solider entered military On the back of the headstone is the solider's serial number Also discussed in this chat Segregation of both Jewish and African American soldiers Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tour | Normandy September 22nd - 28th, 2019 We like Cider video on YouTube Episode 98: Jérôme Dupont

177: Giard | 13 Generations of Cider, FR Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil with Patrice Giard In this episode: Patrice Giard recorded during the Totally Cider Tour to Normandy France in September 2018. Patrice is a 13th generation cidermaker at this family farm. Patrice, his wife and his daughter are running the farm. His daughter's focus is on milk production with Patrice focusing on the cider production. The trees in the orchard that we were walking in were planted in 1996. Variety of Apples tasted during this recording Domaine du Calvados also known as De Clou Bisque Frequin Rouge Orchard at Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil 30 hectares of orchards Standard size trees The orchard management is to prunes the apples trees every three years. The orchards itself has 50 different varieties As required by the appellation of Pays d'Auge Patrice needs to have a map of the apple varieties in the orchard Patrice does not use any pesticides on his orchards. Orchard management tip: When Patrice notices insects on the trees, he lets the cows in the orchard to graze and they will scratch their bodies on the trees and in turn knock off the insects. While standing in the oak barrel room I asked 'What is the minimum time that the barrels stay empty" The reply is that "There is no reason to keep the barrels empty" :) Contact for Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil Address:D101 -D85A, 14340 MONTREUIL-EN-AUGE Telephone: 06 88 50 95 27 Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tour | Normandy, France - September 22nd-28th, 219 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

176: We Like Cider In this episode we begin with: News out and about in Ciderville - Thank you Nathan for becoming a patron of Cider Chat. Nathan is part of Harcourt Apples based in Australia approximately 11/2 hours outside of Melbourne. Audio Snap Shots from the Totally Cider Tour Monterey Bay | California, that took place April 12th and 13th. We begin with John Martinelli of S. Martinelli Co. Totally Cider Tour group portrait outside S. Martinelli's Co. John Martinelli's inside the Watsonville plant Then : Robby Honda of Tanuki Cider Nicole Todd of Santa Cruz Cider Co Jake Mann of Five Mile Orchard Eric Rider and Katie Rider of Rider Ranch Cider Pete Serventi of Serventi Cider Laura Everett of Soquel Cider Extended versions of a few of these audio snap shots will be posted on the Cider Chat Patreon page. Become a patron and help keep ciderGoingUP and get these exclusive audios conversations from the Totally Cider Tour to Monterey Bay, California. Cider Flight w: Tanuki & Santa Cruz Cider Co. Jake Mann of Five Mile Orchard Eric and Katie Rider of Rider Ranch Cider ] Serventi Cider Tour and Tasting Laura Everett - Soquel Cider Debuting "We Like Cider" a new cider anthem to sing a long with on this episode. We Like Cider Lyrics: There is a reason why we do it like this There is a reason why we do it like this There is a reason why we drink it like this There is a reason why we drink it like this We like Cider We like Pommes We like Orchards And having fun We like walking in the orchard Dancing through the streets Smelling all the blossoms Kicking up our feet Next Totally Cider Tour: Normandy France September 22-28, 2019

Part 2 of a two part series with a Question and Answer (Q & A) on Beginner Cider Making with 5 panelists in the cider industry Marcus Robert - Tieton Cider Works, Washington Tim Godfrey - Golden State Cider, California Eleanor Leger - Eden Specialty Cider, Vermont Brent Myles - Slye Clyde Cider, Virginai Ben Calvi - Vermont Cider Co, Vermont Listen to Part 1 of this Q & A recorded at CiderCon2019 in episode 174 (ltor), Marcus Robert, Tim Godfrey, Eleanor Leger, Brent Myles, Ben Calvi. Topics covered in Part 2: Plastic vs Stainless for fermenting or storing cider Can you make money being a commercial maker? What is the best cider style to offer - 3 to 4 core ciders or 8? Where to locate a cidery Take out a loan or go full into cidermaking? - use Kickstarter What is the most crucial piece of lab equipment to have starting out. Hydrometer and Thermometer Sending samples to a lab PH meter Titration kit Filtration Fermentation temperatures Find the full show notes for Episode 175 at CiderChat.com Direct Link at: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/175-beginner-cider-making-pt-2/ Listen to wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.

A Question and Answer (Q & A) on Beginner Cider Making with 5 panelists in the cider industry Marcus Robert - Tieton Cider Works, Washington Tim Godfrey - Golden State Cider, California Eleanor Leger - Eden Specialty Cider, Vermont Brent Myles - Slye Clyde Cider, New York Ben Calvi - Vermont Cider Co, Vermont (ltor), Marcus Robert, Trey Godfrey, Eleanor Leger, Brent Myles, Ben Calvi.[/caption] Pre-recorded at CiderCon2019 in Chicago This is Part 1 or a 2 Part series on Beginner Cider Making questions answered by cider industry pros. Q & A topics: What is cider? "Fermented fruit juice of apples" says Eleanor Leger Wish I knew then what I know now... Marketing "You are going to learn to make cider, but to be able to sell it…" Marcus Robert Breweries getting into cider Managing residual sugar in the bottle for packaging. - a huge range of answers on this topic Can you use sulfites? The challenge for small cidermakers The down fall of Potassium Sorbate in the natural market Contract Fermenting to test product Ice Cider - "if I use a freezer am I cheating?" Stabilizing an ice cider Yeast strain for ice ciders Cryo concentration Is using a freezer considered cheating In the US you can not label it as Ice Cider - it can be called "Iced Cider". Find the full show notes for Episode 174 at CiderChat.com Direct Link at: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/174-beginner-cider-making-part-one/ Listen to wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.

173: Aomori to Nagano | inCiderJapan Lee Reeve is the Publisher and Editor of the quarterly magazine inCiderJapan, the country's first and only bilingual magazine dedicated to all things cider. Lee and I recorded a chat while attending CiderCon2019 in Chicago. Lee Reeve w:Tekikaka Cidre He came ready to pour a selection of Japanese ciders from makers in two primary regions in the country or what are caller Prefectures - Aomori and Nagano. We discuss: Lee's goals for inCiderJapan Develop the Japanese Market Connect with the Japanese makers Communicate to the outside world what is happening in Japan How to recover the loss of revenue in apple production Getting people to come back to the rural apple growing regions of Aomori and Nagano The growing Japanese cider market Japan's Bullet Trains and how it gets from one region to another No public drinking laws in Japan - you can walk about with open containers. The drinking age in Japan is 20 years old The aging maker community in Japan Encouraging makers to offer smaller bottles for consumers - moving from a 750ml bottle to a 375 format Average price for a 750 ml of cider $20. Offering a smaller bottle size entices consumers to reach for a bottle on the shelf due to the price point and the cider or cider brand, being for now an unknown product And taste a cider from Tekikaka What is new for Lee beside all of the above? He is in partnership with Jeremy Stunt of Authentic Cider and they are looking to bring cider to Japan from Tom Oliver, Pilton, Little Pomona, Hallets, and more…Stay Tuned! Contact info for Lee Reeve Go to inCiderJapan Here you can find out the latest news on cider in Japan Sign up for the quarterly paper inCiderJapan Buy a t-shirt and showcase your international know how - the t-shirts rock!!! Upcoming Cider Events in Japan May 25th - The Nagano Cider Collection with a surprise super secret cider maker from Australia July 21st - The Tokyo Cider Collection Mentions in this Chat April 3rd Ethic Cider Event in Petaluma California May 5th-6th - Big Apple Blossom Festival - UK Totally Cider Tours rolling out in 2019: Monterey Bay, California April 12th & 13th, 2019 Normandy, France September 22nd - 28th, 2019, Early Bird end March 31, 2019 New England Cider Tour - October 31, 2019 - stay tuned for tour info in May 172: Tour and Tasting with Eric Bordelet 20+ minute Bonus audio clip with Eric Bordelet on cider making from press to bottle. Become a Patron today via Cider Chat's Patreon page 168: Barrel Aging Cider Inspiration | Ryan Monkman 40+ minute Q&A with Ryan Bonus audio clip - this is a Patron only listen. Become a Patron today via Cider Chat's Patreon page

172: Cider Tasting with Eric Bordelet Audio snapshots of a tasting and tour w/Eric Bordelet and the tour group visiting Normandy France in September 2018. The first Totally Cider Tour to roll out took a group of super awesome people to makers both on the Route du Cidre in Pays d'Auge and to the south region of Normandy called Domfrontais. This chat features an afternoon visit to Eric's cidery. Group photo on the roof of the Castle at Eric Bordelet's Domaine We begin with: A meet and greet. Eric asked to hear each person on the tour's job or what they do at home. Very kind and personable. We walked over to the Castle that Eric is having rebuilt - it burned down many years ago and is an huge rebuilding of epic proportions. We spoke a bit about terroir and Eric encouraged us look to the trees that are already growing in our area. Listen to Jérôme Dupont's chat as he like Eric also encourages makers to look to their local varieties too - words well spoken. We move onto the cidery - not inside the cidery. He strategically does not bring large groups in - one because he doesn't like to reveal all his trade secrets - and too to keep the area clean. However, he was quite transparent in discussing the first stages of working with the juice and filtration. I cut this audio section out and will be posting it to the Cider Chat Patreon page. Become a patron of Cider Chat and get this clip and other bonus audio and more, by supporting Cider Chat today We finish this chat in the Tasting Room We go through a number of cidres and poirés - Plus a new product called Cormé (Sorbus Domesticus). 1 of only 1000 bottles made in 2017 Want to visit Eric and other fantastic makers in Normandy? We are going on this trip again and will have a visit to Eric's domaine and later that same day a cider dinner with Eric too. Cider Tour dates: September 22-28, 2019 Go to http://ciderchat.com/totallycidernormandy/ Mentions in this Chat Cider Competition - BigE - entry deadline May 5th August 30th - September 1st, 2019 3 day cider fest with camping in the orchard https://rosscider.com/ciderfest/ 171: Americans in Paris | Cider Tourist Speak 012: Randall Grahm | Bonny Doon Vineyard, CA April 12th and 13th - Monterey Bay Cider Tour Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

171: Americans in Paris | Cider Tourists Speak In late September 2018, a group of cider travelers met with the producers of Pays d'Auge and Domfrontais, two regions of cider and perry making in Normandy, France. They were out to taste Normandy and see the landmark sights of this western region of France that abuts the English Channel. They were on the inaugural Totally Cider Tour to France with me, Ria, their host and curator of this epic journey. 1 of our cider fueled lunches - and this was the main course after a hefty app of Quiche and salad.- Normandy 2018 We spent a cider fueled week having what can only be called a gastronomic journey into the heart of Normandy. On the way back to Paris on the final leg of our journey I recorded each traveler's highlights for this episode 171. Listen to Greg, Marcus, Akina, David, Storie, Matt, Al S., Al St., Bobby, Taryn, Eryn and Michael. ] Akina our mother in waiting enjoying Perry juice. Totally Cider Tours rolling out in 2019: Monterey Bay, California April 12th & 13th, 2019 Normandy, France September 22nd - 28th, 2019, Early Bird end March 31, 2019 New England Cider Tour - October 31, 2019 - stay tuned for tour info in May Mentions in this Chat @southciders - bracket challenge 168: Barrel Aging Cider Inspiration | Ryan Monkman 40+ minute Q&A with Ryan Bonus audio clip - this is a Patron only listen. Become a Patron today via Cider Chat's Patreon page Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube [app_audio src="http://ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/171-Amerians-in-Paris-Cider-Tourist-Speak.mp3"]

A "Dryness scale" as presented by the New York Cider Association The session was pre-recorded at CiderCon2019 Goals of this session: Slide 1 A Sensory Workshop on Perceptions of Dryness/Sweetness in Ciders This session was a structured sensory analysis of ten commercial New York apple ciders. Participants tasted anonymous ciders of predetermined sugar/acid/tannin contents. They were assigned to rate each on a 0-to-4 graphic scale from Dry to Sweet, based on its perceived dryness/sweetness. The workshop data will be discussed, compiled and analyzed to test the usefulness of quantitative systems like the one proposed by the New York Cider Association, intending to inform retail cider consumers about their likely perceptions and preferences in choosing ciders. Participation was limited to 75 people. The presentation/tasting was led by Jen Smith the Executive Director of the New York Cider Association Here are the slides presented during this seminar providing an overview of this session's track. ] Slide 2] Slide 3 Slide 4 Slide 5 Slide 6 Slide 7 Slide 8 Slide 9 Contact for New York Cider Association Executive Director: Jennifer Smith Website: https://www.newyorkciderassociation.com/ Contact form: https://www.newyorkciderassociation.com/contact Mentions in this Chat CraftCon - April 5, 2019 at Pereshore College, UK http://www.thethreecountiesciderandperryassociation.co.uk/craftcon-2019-to-shine-spotlight-on-craft-cidermaking/ Ross Cider Festival 2019 - August 30-September 1, 2019. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

A History of Alcohol Law as presented by Marc Sorini at CiderCon2019, Chicago Attorney Marc Sorini is a Partner at McDermott Will & Emery LLP based in Washington. DC. Marc is considered the go-to attorney on the alcohol beverage industry. He works with the United States Association of Cider Makers and presented this Historical Overview at the CiderCon luncheon on February 7, 2019 in Chicago. Beside the History of Alcohol, Marc speaks at Trade Conferences on The Intersection of Spirits and Marijuana The Ban on Consignment Sales and an ongoing speakers schedule on topics relatable to the wine, beer, spirits and cider industry. Marc Sorini is on the list of: The Best Lawyers in America, 2011 to 2019 "Lawyer of the Year" for Food and Beverage Law in Washington DC in 2015 and 2018 In this presentation Marc Sorini discussed the historic development of the current legal structure regulating alcohol beverage businesses. The origins of "tied house" laws and the evolution of the three-tier system The "often-confusing" status of cider under federal law Cider's treatment under alcohol excise tax laws Contact Attorney Marc Sorini Law Firm website: McDermott Will & Emery LLP Address: The McDermott Building 500 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC 20001-1531 Telephone: +1 202 756 8284 email: [email protected] Mentions in this Chat 032: Steve Wood | Farnum Hill, NH Inn at Lake Champlain - mention Cider Chat to the hosts and get that cider flowing! 128 Route S, Putnam Station - New York 518-547-8406 Cider Judges needed March 30th | Massachusetts - judging first round for the National Homebrew Competition If you don't have entries in this year's NHC please sign up here :https://brewingcompetition.com/index.php?section=register&go=judge and select "Yes" for Boston Sessions under "Judging Teams Location Availability" Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! Haven't downloaded this chat yet? Here is is again. [app_audio src="http://ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/169-Marc-Sorini-Alcohol-Law.mp3"]

Using Oak Barrels in Cidermaking - What do you want to know? Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider based in Prince Edward County, Ontario Canada presented an extended seminar on Oak Barrels at CiderCon 2019 in Chicago. [caption id="attachment_4008" align="aligncenter" width="225"] Ryan Monkman - FieldBird Cider in cellar[/caption] The workshop description: It's like a Choose-Your-Own Adventure book...but with booze. A dozen mini-talks on oak. The crowd decides what to cover and what to scrap. We'll open with an introduction on barrels then throw it to the horde. A vote at the end of each mini-talk will determine what we explore next. We'll finish when the clock stops - leaving time for Q&A. During the presentation Ryan had 4 ciders to taste that he with different degrees of oak applied ~ Some in barrels, some with oak chips with different levels of toasting. Ryan has already been on 2 episodes of Cider Chat Barrels and Bâtonnage A Cider Barrels with a Cooper, A Maker and Thierry Lemaire Topics Covered: Do you lose the oak overtures in carbonated cider? How is the barrel made and why it matters? And how does the barrel's design and wood used affect the cider Topping up your barrel with lees and cider What to do with the lees. Ryan keeps the yeast lees around. He uses less as part of the top up of the barrel You can also top it off with gas. "Stirring is my favorite part" Use whatever you can to keep the lees back into suspension To stir or not to stir? Not everyone does stir. Lees are reductive and can reduce fruit aroma in a cider Does Ryan exclusively use French oak barrels. - No He has one American Barrel (named "Ria" and filled with Perry!! and plans on getting more American barrels and also a Canadian barrels too. How often to stir barrels Ryan stirs 2x/day during initial fermentation Then twice a week Long term twice a month or every two weeks to top off the barrel Ryan leaves the cider on lees until it is ready to bottle The toasting of a barrel impacts the toasting of the barrel. The lighter it is toasted the lighter the oak overtures. more toasted more flavor "With oak you can build complexity!" [caption id="attachment_4007" align="aligncenter" width="225"] FieldBird Cider "Buzzing Chatter" 2017[/caption] Using oak chips Question is - when do I want to use them? Which oak to use - not all oak is alike. What % of a French oak tree can be used to make barrels? 20% The remaining 80% of the tree is used to make railroad ties in France The oak planks are dried outside for 2-4 years Coopers can use a reed between pieces of wooden staves They use to use wheat flour - but no one use wheat flour anymore Because only 20% of the tree can be used is one of the reasons why French oak barrels are so expensive. Reconditioned barrels? Worth it? Different oak barrels Whiskey barrels are more loose grained Chardonnay barrels in CA are tighter The main wood of choice is white oak Main variety of French oak used is "Quercus robur" (Limousin oak) which has a high levels of tannin and low levels of flavor What do you want to say with your cider What to do? Do a whole bunch of different things. Any barrel is better than no barrel Bourbon barrels - coarse grain - heavy grain into the fire zone - aromatic but not a the structure side - to get vanillin note it requires time. Wine barrel - tight grain - light to medium toast - french or European oak Contact for FieldBird Cider Website: https://fieldbirdcider.com/ Buy FieldBird Cider Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fieldbird.cider/ Follow on Instagram @fieldbird.cider @ryanmonkman Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

167: Cider Vortex Tales | Chicago2019 This episodes highlights recordings made during Chicago Cider Week February 1-9, 2019. SHERYL YOUNGBLOOD w/ Terrell Carter CiderCon, the annual Trade Conference for members of the United States Association of Cider Makers, took place on February 4-8. On Saturday the 10th Chicago Cider Summit capped off this cider soaked week, with two cider sessions at the Navy Pier. This event had record attendance topping off at 3500 people. Featured in this episode 167 we begin at the Cider Share held on Wednesday the 7th and meet Meredith and Peter of Century Cider in Memphis Tennessee. Then we get a dose of cider geeking with Charles McGonegal as chat Tetrahydropyridine (THP) and mousey overtures in cider. Go to episode 83 and 84. Then it is off to mini chats with cider drinkers attending Cider Summit. In order of guest recordings: Andrew Lindsey Michelle Clorissa Jill & Jordy Kelly Whitney Kate & Franny Jill Malinka Daryl William (@CiderGeek), Erica, and Globe Trotting Gluten Free with Erin Smith. Following up on tips given to Eric during the Cider Summit Totally Cider Tours to sign up for now. April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay, California - Reservations and info September 22-28, 2019 - Normandy, France - Reservations Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

166 Cider Chat Live | Life off CiderCon2019 I was able to squeak in a mini episode before setting off to Chicago for the annual cider trade conference "CiderCon" hosted by the United States Association of Cider Makers. I've been talking a lot about CiderCon leading up to this week of February 4-9, 2019. With 1000 people attending from all parts of the world, it is the Talk of the Town - for those of us who are hooked on all things cider. Below is my schedule of recordings - I have a pretty simple set up to track who I will be speaking to and when. I am stoked that I will have more time at workshops recording, versus hidden away in a back room doing interviews. It's not that I don't like interviews, but when I heard last year that no one saw me for most of CiderCon in Baltimore - I realized that just ain't right. So this CiderCon - I have set up an number on seminar and panel recordings. Even as I am flying to Chicago right now - I am getting direct messages in Twitter from makers who are going to CiderCon and looking to chat. Luckily I have also learned to leave a few open slots for just these kind of meet ups. Here is the recording schedule thus far - Feb 5th Tuesday Arrive…get landed find half and half for morning coffee that me and my hotel mate Erica can use for the bad ass French press she is bringing (dang sure glad I agreed to room with Erica who also is one of the biggest, joyful cider enthusiasts around …my kind of cider person!) Lee Reeve - InCider Japan 6-7pm - note to self, bring the bottle of Calvados - must do a swig with Lee, whom I am stoked to meet. Little Pomona - 7pm - I must catch up with Susanna and James Forbes - Already have my copy of The Cider Insider, that Susanna just wrote - and would love to talk to her about this awesome book! A must have - links to buy on the Cider Chat resource page The Northman Cider Bar tonight…maybe or lay low and pace myself…we will see Feb 6th amWednesday 9-10 Simon Day - Once Upon a Tree | UK - I am so excited to meet Simon and hear his tales and drink his cider!!! 1-3pm Pomme Boots Meeting - Krista Scruggs of ZAFA wines is speaking!!! 3-4pm Media - I think as media I get to go to the Cider Share early - weeeeeee 4-6:30pm Cider Share - Heaven on earth - walking about a room full of cider and the makers 7pm - James Creek Ciderhouse, North Carolina - a cider dinner and recording with Ann Marie and David Thornton???? "Yes - please" Feb 7th Thursday 10:15am - Beginning Cidermaker panel - continental A - I get to moderate and introduce this powerhouse panel. 10:15am Dryness - Williford C - I will be recording this key presentation with folks from the New York Cider Association - Jen Smith is the Ex Director and I Heart Jen! 12 - 1pm Attorney Marc Sorini is speaking during lunch on the History of Alcohol! I had to coax Marc to allow me to record! Can't wait to hear this presentation!!! 3-4:30pm oak - Ryan Monkman - Wiliford A-B - Ryan of Ontario - …based on Prince Edward County and maker of Field Bird Cider - If you haven't listen to Barrels and Bàtonnage with Ryan - DO - he is amazing. and I adore him, Feb 7th Thursday evening open - who knows where I will be once the sun goes down. One thing for sure, I will have a glass of cider in my hand. Feb 8th Friday 10:15am Embracing & Encouraging Diversity - Continental C - yowza - this is a powerhouse panel 12:30am Michelle McGrath - lunch speaker - I want to record Michelle - she is the perfect fit for the USACM and the fact that she is doing all that she does and is pregnant to boot! Super Star!!! Leaving Open - 1:30 - 4:30 Friday evening - Erica scored a ticket to the SpeakEasy Cider meet up - YeeHaw! Feb 9th Saturday - A full day at Chicago Cider Summit Feb 10th Sunday Fly home - Ya!

Monterey Bay, California cider tour April 12th & 13th, 2019 Reservations are open! Must be 21 years or older to attend. Tour Begins: 1pm Friday | April 12, 2019 in Capitola, California Meet the makers and orchardists of Monterey Bay: Cider and Orchard Tours and Tastings with: Santa Cruz Cider Company 2019 Good Food Awards finalist for cider Two sisters, Nicole and Natalie founded this company back in 2013. Nicole's husband Felix creates the amazing ink labels that adorn this enterprising cidery's labels. Listen to Nicole's Cider Chat episode 60 and a recent conversation with Natalie and Nicole on a walkabout the orchard on episode 159. Soquel Cider - 2019 Good Food Awards winner for cider Laura Everett is making cider at the orchard based organic farm, but I have a feeling that her husband Rich who tends the Honey Crisp orchard while Laura is nuturing the heirloom orchard is always at the ready with a smile and helping hand. Listen to episode 164: Soquel Cider's Organic Orchards | California with Laura. [caption id="attachment_3933" align="aligncenter" width="200"] Laura Everett - Soquel Cider[/caption] Rider Ranch Ciderworks Eric Rider is a self describe cider geek. He can't wait to talk to anyone interested in the subtle nuances of cidermaking. On the tour Eric will lead us through both a vertical and horizontal tasting of Newtown Pippins. Listen to the Riders Cider Chat on episode 110 [caption id="attachment_2731" align="aligncenter" width="225"] Katie & Eric[/caption] Tanuki Cider Company Robby Honda is the maker/owner of Tanuki. Listen to Robby on Cider Chat episode 103 [caption id="attachment_2575" align="aligncenter" width="225"] Robby Honda of Tanuki Cider[/caption] Serventi Ranch Cider Peter and Erin Serventi have an orchard based cidery outside of Watsonville. We will be having our lunch in their orchard and take part in a tour and tasting. [caption id="attachment_3947" align="aligncenter" width="300"] Peter and Erin of Serventi Ranch Cider[/caption] Jake Mann of Five Mile Orchard Jake part of a multi generational orcharding family and he also like to make cider for his own enjoyment. Listen to Jake's Cider Chat episode 113 And the oldest maker in the USA - S. Martinelli & Company founded in 1868 John Martinelli will lead the tour at the company's main juice plant. Listen to John's Cider Chat episode 162 [caption id="attachment_3821" align="aligncenter" width="225"] John Martinelli and Ria recording episode 162[/caption] Costs of Tour: $385/person - February 12, 2019 $400/person - February 13th - March 12th, 2019 $420/person - March 12th - April 12th, 2019 What's included? Cider Tours and Orchard Tastings Lunch on Saturday Cider Dinner Saturday Night at Soquel Cider Transportation to the tours, and cider dinner: Meet up and drop off location in Capitola What is not included? Flights or other transportation to and from Capitola, California Airport transfers Lodging Travel Insurance (optional) Dinner Friday night on own Food and drinks outside of this cider tour offering Cider bought from makers Personal expenses Please note that itineraries are subject to change. Reservations are open! Need Lodging: If you are coming from out of town - I have secured rooms at the Best Western Plus Capitola By-the-Sea Inn & Suites in Capitola at a reduced rate of 169.99 + Tax. This is a brand new hotel with gluten free options for breakfast, a heated pool, workout room and located a short walk to the Capitola Wharf. The BW room coupon code will be sent once your reservation is confirmed. Locals lodging rates during this time of year in the area really swell up - like an apple filled with water - This is a very good rate - so lets fill up BW with cider fans!

Soquel Cider's Organic Orchards | California Soquel Cider is located at the Everett Family Farm in Soquel, California. Laura and Rich Everett were looking for away to get back to the land and enjoying a bit of farming, when they bought the farm in 2000. There is a Farm Stand with vegetables and fresh pressed apple juice, that is open to the public - the cidery is not. In this chat, Laura and I walkabout the orchards and explore the diversity of fruit trees that makes this place so special. We see the beautiful Comice Pear Orchard. These trees are unique as the trunk is so short, about 24 inches tall before the limbs start spreading out. We roundabout the Pear Trees and take a look at Laura's Orchard which was planted in 2007m when she set the root for a bunch of cider apples. Every two rows is a different apple of Fox Whelp Dabinet Porters Perfection Yarlington Mill Roxbury Russett Staymen Belle de Boskoop Other Fruit Trees: Comice Pear Persimmons - Hychiya & Fuyu Santa Rosa Plums Apricot Trees Soquel Ciders Laura's Orchard - winner of the Good Food Award 2019 Soquel Cider - is a Good Food Award Finalist 2019 Apple Persimmon (8.7%) cider with Hachiya Persimmons - Fall release Barrel Aged Cider - aged in a rye whiskey barrel Santa Rosa Plum Cider Contact Soquel Cider Website Soquel Cider eMail [email protected] Telephone: 831-566-0472 Visit the farm stand: 2111 Old San Jose Road, Soquel, CA 95073 Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tours April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations and info September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in late January Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. Canadian Makers attending CiderCon2019 Kristen Needham - Sea Cider - British Columbia - Natural Cider Workshop Feb 7th Ryan Monkman - FieldBird Cider - Ontario - Using Oak- What do you want to know? Feb 7th Michel Jodoin - Cidrerie Michel Jodoin - Quebec: Ice Cider Feb 8th Alan Demoy - Cidrerie du Minot - Quebec: Ice Cider Feb 8th February 10th - New York International Cider Competition Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com Here below are the links for more info https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Pro Tips for Navigating CiderCon 2019 Ambrosia Borowski is the General Manager of The Northman a cider bar in Chicago. She also spearheaded Chicago Cider Week. In this chat, Ambrosia chats: Tips for making a Calvados Cocktail Tips on getting around Chicago -Take the L, which is part of the CTA public transportation system Chicago Cider Week kicks off on February 1st at The Northman, where you will be able to find the official event guide. Note that The Northman has two locations, but only one is open during CiderCon - so go to 4337 N Lincoln Ave, Chicago, IL 60618 Chicago Cider Summit is held on February 9, 2019 at the Navy Pier in Chicago. Expect two cider tasting session, each being a ticketed event At CiderCon Ambrosia will be teaching the Elements of Cider with Charles McGonegal at CiderCon of February 5, 2019. They will touch upon sweetness, tannin and acid in cider and the style guide. Ambrosia is also on a Tasting Panel with Lauren Shepard of Shelton Brothers. CiderCon attendees - make sure to download the Attendify App, which shows all the workshops sessions and will post the Chicago Cider Week events that are sponsored. More Chicago info: O'Hare Airport apple history What does the airport code ORD stand for at this mighty Chicago hub? Answer: Orchard Field Transportation around Chicago? Taking the L train from downtown to The Northman will take you 30 minutes Via Lyft: Use Promo Code: LYFTCIDERCHAT get a ride credit for new users of this ride share program. Mentions in this Chat Totally Cider Tours April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations are no online and open September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in February. Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. February 10th - New York International Cider Competition The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price This competition uses the USACM categories Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com Here below are the links for more info https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. inCider Japan Japan's only bilingual magazine for all things cider Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

S. Martinelli & Company was founded by Stephen Martinelli in 1868. The company is located, as it has always been, for the last 150 years in Watsonville, California. The first cider made by Stephen was a 7.5% alcohol by volume sparkling cider. This chat is with Stephen John Martinelli, the great grandson of the Founder and the current CEO and General Manager of this family owned business. John's first job as a teen was to clean the 125 gallon redwood fermenting tanks that were used at Martinelli's to ferment apples juice to cider. You can still see the slats from the old tank today at the Company Store, where they flank the tasting bar. In this chat, we discuss Martinelli's new product "1868" which came out in August of 2018 to commemorate the 150th year. 1868 is a 5.7% cider that Martinelli is currently contracting with the Gordon Biersch brewing company to ferment. The bulk of the apples are sourced from the Pacific Northwest. 1868 has the signature Martinelli juice profile, with a Newtown Pippin apple presence. It is sold in 12 ounce bottles in 12-packs. Costcos in California and the two Safeway stores in Santa Cruz are the only location currently selling this product. The 1868 is selling fast, as Martinelli loyalist buy sometimes up to 2-4 12-packs at a time. Listen to and see the wordplayed by Hip Hop Artist Andy Mineo called: Martinelli's Contact info for S. Martinelli & Company Website: https://www.martinellis.com Tours? Martinelli's does not provide public tours. Mentions in this chat Totally Cider Tours April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California Reservations open January 11, 2019 September 22-28, 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in late January Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. Volunteer for CiderCon and have your registration fee waivered! Contact : Woodley email - [email protected] February 10th - New York International Cider Competition The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price This competition uses the USACM categories Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com Here below are the links for more info https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ Listen to 108: The Alcohol Professor chats Cider Competitions and Judging Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Best of Show | Cider Judging at Franklin County CiderDays 2018 is featured in this episode 161. Franklin County CiderDays takes place on the first weekend of November in "Franklin County" Massachusetts. This year 2019 will be the 25th annual CiderDays. Events take place on both sides of the Connecticut River and many are free to attend. Go to https://ciderdays.org/ and start planning to attend the 25th Annual. And make sure you take enough time off before the events begin on Friday, as I ,Ria, will be leading another Totally Cider Tour : New England the day before. About the CiderDays Judging For the past six years the CiderDays Amateur Cider Competition solicts entries during CiderDays and at locations through out New England. The actual judging takes place one month after CiderDays. Thus the 2018 judging took place on December 1st, 2018 at the White Church in Deerfield Massachusetts. Many of the judges have been involved with CiderDays since if first started back in 1993. Judges can also be commercial makers, cider writers and fermenters from as far as Virginia and Pennsylvania. This episode records the Best of Show judging of the final 11 ciders that all placed first in their category. Scroll to minute 13:48 to listen straight away to the Best of Show Recording. Otherwise enjoy the news beforehand and after from out and about Ciderville. Mentions in this Chat Cousin Jay brings us into this week's chat Mentions in this chat February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. Volunteer for CiderCon and have your registration fee waivered! Contact : Woodley email - [email protected] February 10th - New York International Cider Competition The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price This competition uses the USACM categories Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com Here below are the links for more info https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ Totally Cider Tours April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations can be made in January September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in January Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

The Way of the Amateur How do you pronounce Amateur? Did you know there is more than one way to approach this word? Do you use "amateur" as a compliment or an insult? If you are swinging back and forth on your answers to these questions, you are not alone. In this episode we explore the use of the word "amateur"...and I share my two cents on the matter. Mentions in this chat February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. February 10th - New York International Cider Competition The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price This competition uses the USACM categories Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com Here below are the links for more info https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/ Totally Cider Tours April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations can be made in January September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in January Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

The farmers of Monterey Bay California have been growing apples since the state constitution was first ratified in1849. The primary apple of the region is Newtown Pippin due partly to the demand for this apple by Martinelli's, a 4th generation family run cider and apple juice producer. If you speak to any orchardist in the area, there is a undeniable agreement that if not for Martinelli's there would likely be no orchards in the area today. This episode takes the listener along on my travels to the region to meet makers and plan for an up coming Totally Cider Tour" Monterey Bay. If you would like to get on the list for this tour now - do send an email to [email protected]. We begin with a song by Robbie Robertson of The Band "Christmas Must Be Tonight", sung by my cousin Jay. Then we head out on the road to meet with makers for an evening of cider and chat surrounding the upcoming cider tour. Makers at the Cider Dinner hosted by Santa Cruz Cider Company Robby Honda, Tanuki Cider Company - Santa Cruz Erin Serventi, Serventi Ranch Cider - Watsonville Laura Everett, Soquel Cider - Sequel Katie Rider, Rider Ranch Ciderworks, Los Gatos Jake Mann, Five Mile Orchard, Corralitos After the meet up on the next day, I met with John Martinelli of S. Martinelli's Cider Co. in Watsonville Mentions in this chat CiderCon2019 - February 4-8, 2019 - register to go today Cider Competition February 10th - 2019 New York International Cider Competition The 1st Annual New York International Cider Competition is Cider focused competition that is held in conjunction with the 6th Annual New York International Beer Competition. Top Trade Buyers from the New York Metro Area including Cider Bars, Retail Stores, Distributors and Importers will be judging the cider by its category and actual price. It is open to all commercially made cider from around the world. Your cider does not have to be sold and or imported into New York to be in the competition. Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. ---------------------- The United States Association of Cider Makers (USACM) works on cider legislation, education, and cider promotion. In this chat: CiderCon2019 with the Michelle McGrath, Executive Director of USACM Why you should attend CiderCon2019 Why arrive early to CiderCon2019 Key programing presentation and lectures to attend at CiderCon2019 Which international company is the invited guest at CiderCon2019. hint: They are North Americans! Find out about Michelle McGrath featured in Wine Enthusiasts' Top 40 Under 40 Haven't registered for CiderCon2019 - go to this link: https://ciderassociation.org/cidercon2019/ Pre CiderCon fun and key speakers & educational workshops of CiderCon2019 Feb 4th Monday Classic arrival day for attendees to be able to attend the next day morning sessions Feb 5th Tuesday Elements of Cider with Charles McGonegal and Ambrosia Borowski, General Manager of The Northman, Chicago's premier cider bar Listen to 084: Elements of Cider | Sensory Analysis w/Charles McGonegal Cider Tour in Chicago focusing learning about cider and food pairings. Right Bee Cider The Northman Cider Pub & Bistro ERIS Brewery and Cider House The Farmhouse Feb 6th Wednesday - Morning seminars TTB presentation - The Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB) oversea the regulations and labeling of cider. This presentation will include taxation issues for cider. A key session for commercial makers or start ups. Certified Cider Professional (CCP) Level 2 Training. Servers, distributors and even super cider geeks will up their cider knowledge and be both informed consumers but specifically for those in the trade best educate and serve consumers. **Level 1 must be taken first before attending Level 2. Cider Institute of North America Teaches the craft of cidermaking. The Institue will be leading a workshop at CiderCon2019 Wednesday Afternoon: Pomme Boots Meeting with Krista Scruggs from Vermont by way of California Welcome reception and Cider Share- Imagine a huge room filled with makers pouring cider. A great opportunity for makers to showcase their ciders and network with the folks in the cider trade. This is not open to the public. As of December 12th there is still time to sign up to bring you ciders to the Cider Share. Contact [email protected] Lunch Speakers on Feb 7th Thursday and Feb 8th Friday Thursday Lunch Speaker: Mark Sirini Attorney - Speaking on the History of Alcohol and the Law Friday Lunch Speaker: Michelle McGrath, Executive Director : United States Association of Cider Makers Updates Tradeshow - Don't miss the opportunity to visit the Trade Show! Look for the Lounge at the Trade Show and Thursday's Happy Hour session. Plus a bookstore with author signings Who is going to become the next USACM Board Member? Nominations begin the third week of December. Voting takes place on Friday morning at CiderCon2019. Be there at the 9am session to cast your vote. Are you a Member of the Association? Why not throw you hat into the race and help create cider history and excellence in the market Key Canadian Guests Sea Cider Farm & Ciderhouse - British Columbia, Canada County Cider - Listen to episode 137 Ontario's County Cider Story | Jennifer Dean Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider will be presenting Using Oak: What do you want to know? Listen to episode 132 Barrels and Bâtonnage with Ryan CiderCon2019 still needs volunteers contact mailto:[email protected] Mentions in this Chat 060: Nicole Todd | Santa Cruz Cider Company, CA 103: Robby Honda | Tanuki Cider, CA 110: Eric & Katie | Rider Ranch Ciderworks, CA 113: Jake Mann | Five Mile Orchard, CA

Killahora Orchards of County Cork is located on the southern tip of the Emerald Isle a.k.a. Ireland and was once the center of the world butter market. Historically it is also known as the "rebel city". Today it is a thriving city with Michelin star restaurants and makers like Barry Walsh and Dave Watson of Killahora Orchards in Glounthaune. Killahora Orchards began to be replanted in 2011. Replanted because Killahora Orchards today, it was found, was also an orchard dating back as far as 1838. This was discovered on Ireland's OS (Ordinance Survey) Maps. As such there are wilding apple trees on the fence line linked to the Malus sylvestris (this apple tree usually has thorns). Barn on the hill at Killahora Orchards In 2016 Killahora entered the commercial market as Johnny Fall Down cider, but as the brand evolves they are now making Johnny Fall Down a brand of cider under the Killahora Orchards label. There are 130 varieties of apples and 30 different pears. Dave Watson planted the orchard. His father Tim Watson tends it. Barry Walsh is Dave's cousin. Barry is crowned the Booze Geek, while Dave is considered the Tree Geek. Killahora Orchards Products The Wild Apple Bouché won the Supreme International Championship for International Ciders at the Royal Bath and West cider competition in June 2018. The Rare Apple Ice Wine which was made with Bitter Sweet and Bitter Sharp apples really set this Irish version of an ice cider apart. Rare Apple Ice Wine made with bitter sweet and bitter sharp apples[/caption] Pom'O is and Apple Port or what the French would call Pommeau. At the end of this chat hear Barry Walsh sing a wee bit from the Irish Folk Drinking Song "Johnny Jump Up". Learn more about its history here. Contact Killahora Orchards Website: http://www.killahoraorchards.ie/ Address: Killahora, Glounthaune Cork Telephone: 021 486 8177 eMail: [email protected] Mentions in this Chat Patreon supporter Jonathan $1 Eleanor Leger - Eden Cider Listen to Eleanor's chat 111: Cidernomics: Breaking Bad or Breaking Even Adam Levey aka The Alcohol Professor has now launched the www.nyicidercompetition.com which is the natural spinoff off the www.nyibeercompetition.com so cider winners will receive cider medals. Wanna enter two competitions? Commercial makers can send in their samples to the New Jersery receiving station, then the competition will ship their ciders for no extra cost to the Berlin Germany competition too. Go the link above to find more info. Listen to Adams Chat: episode 108 CiderCon2019 February 5-9, 2019 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at ApplePodcasts, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103 Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Lees: When should we love them and when should we leave them? And what the heck is "lees" anyways? The main chat in this episode begins around 10 minutes in and features Curt Sherrer presenting his workshop titled "All Lees Are Not Gross" It was recorded at the 24th Annual Franklin County CiderDays. Why rack off the lees? Curt proposes that there are more advantages for aging the cider on the lees then removing the lees. Sur Lie is leaving the lees in the vessel that you are conditioning the cider in is called: What to expect from barrel aging and leaving the cider on the lees is the smell of H2S which smells like rotten eggs. Find the full show notes for Episode 156 at CiderChat.com Direct Link at: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/156-not-all-lees/ Listen to wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 Enjoy cider? Help keep #ciderGoingUP - by supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.