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We explain the leading scientific hypotheses for how the first life emerged through natural processes on Earth billions of years ago. This covers proposed pathways like the clay hypothesis, radioactive beach hypothesis, deep sea vent hypothesis, and more. Contrary to popular belief, the spontaneous generation of self-replicating chemical patterns that later evolved into complex organisms seems far more likely than previously assumed. We also discuss possible great filters that may explain the Fermi Paradox.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] What you have communicated to me is that there have been.Far more viable pathways to life springing out of no life than was previously something I thought was a thing, you know, I thought, Oh, something, something, lightning, something, something, hot air events, something, something, whatever chemical processes, but the, you're indicating that there are a lot of different ways and that.That life coming to exist is not that surprising, at least in our environment in the, in the earthMalcolm Collins: In fact, I think the most compelling hypothesis for ambiogenesis is the clay hypothesis, which we'll get to. So it literally means the thing that later became life was originally clay. That's so biblical.Simone Collins: Oh my gosh. Oh shi What are you doing?Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: I remember listening to. A podcast or something with Andrew Tate, where he was talking about him getting blood work done to prove that he wasn't doping [00:01:00] and he couldn't remember really anything about his actual blood work results.And he kept saying Hodger globin. Which is not a part of, it's not a thing. Hydroglobin is not a thing. Hydroglobin.Malcolm Collins: Do you think heSimone Collins: made hemoglobin? He, yeah, I, yeah. I mean, at first he knew, I think at first he got it wrong by mistake. And then probably saw how everyone was looking at him and then just kind of leaned into it.Cause he's like, no, I'm. Not one of you tends to actually know.Malcolm Collins: I said it's Hadroglobin. It's now Hadroglobin. The thing is, you know, the reason why I'm wearing a vest right now and the reason why people don't know this, you don't bottom the bottom button on a vest is because the king I want to say, I forget which king it might have been King Henry VIII because he got so fat at one point he couldn't button theSimone Collins: bottom button.the regent. Didn't you say it was the regent? The prince regent during the regency era? Oh, it might have been. It's more when vests were a thing.Malcolm Collins: So he couldn't wear the bottom button and then that just became the style. You don't wear the bottom button. So Andrew Tate makes a mistake and how he [00:02:00] says hemoglobin and now that's the new style.Simone Collins: It's Hadroglobin, guys. Yeah, it's atMalcolm Collins: least if you're a baller. It's one I have sort of been putting off for a while because it requires a lot of technicalities to talk about, but it's an, to me, an incredibly important topic because I see it talked about in online spaces. We've entered a world in which education has gotten really, really bad.especially along things that they could have like challenge woke stuff, but also stuff that can be overly challenging sometimes to religious stuff. Yeah. So I'll ask you in school, did you ever study ambiogenesis? Did you ever study how the first life evolved on the planet?Simone Collins: Never. Definitely. Certainly.Absolutely not in high school. And then in college in historical geology class, we did discuss like, here are, Then we glazed over it like it could have been chemical. It could have been whatever and like here is but we didn't go in I never heard thatMalcolm Collins: word. Yeah, well, and it's it's worse than that. What really got me [00:03:00] is actually talking to Robin Hanson And he said that he thought talking about great filtration events, right?He's talking about great filters So if you're talking about the Fermi paradox, this actually becomes a very important thing to have information on and know about, because you need to judge in your calculations of like, why haven't we seen other aliens yet? Is it unlikely? That life evolves on a planet with the preconditions for life, right?And he said it was very unlikely, like that was one of the biggest filters. Was it the first life came on our planet? And I think if it's a topic that you're particularly educated on and he said when he said it, he's like, and weirdly, a lot of people who are studying this area don't think it's that big a filter.And he's like, and I don't understand why. Like, And this, to me, just had me realize it must just be that he's never dug that deep into it as a concept, because it is actually not a big filter. Life appearing on this planet, and this is another problem with a lot of attacks that religious people will [00:04:00] use against atheism, that just don't land very hard, because they haven't studied these subjects in

Analyzing studies on virgins and dating behavior, we break down surprising trends. Contrary to assumptions, porn users and risk-takers are much less likely to be virgins. We argue lack of motivation stemming from external locus of control better explains celibacy, alongside female adaptation to gender ratios that incentivize careers over relationships. Ultimately, we must culturally promote diligence in men and socially engineer maximal coed interactions.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] They'll talk about things like, and you see this constantly like, oh, it's the porn that's making everyone virgins these days. Well, it turns out that they're basically wrong on all these fronts.Whether or not you watch porn regularly had a huge effect on whether or not you had been able to sleep with someone before the age of 26.Simone Collins: Just not the way you expect.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, yeah of the people who had slept with somebody 80 percent They use porn regularly, so a bit over 80 percent. Of the people who were virgins, 64 percent. Mhm. They found a really persistent trend in the data.Which was that women when they believed that when in actuality it was true or when they had recently been primed with crowds where there were more women than men chose career pathways instead of marriage pathways [00:01:00] But where this it gets really interesting is the change in gender demographics within college campuses.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: First off, I have to just thank you for being MVP of the day where I am a super distracted and sleep deprived and stressed out and crying. So I go on business calls with her on my back through the park and of course, I don't properly latch the fence and then the professor gets out and I go around trying to find her and I can't and then you just save the day, not only finding the professor.But also our dog, by the way, our, our dear Corgi giving our son Octavian the best day and experience of the week by introducing him to the park ranger who valiantly. I found the professor and put him in, put her in the car and I'm just, thank you. I really appreciateMalcolm Collins: it.Simone Collins: So that was my [00:02:00] bad.Malcolm Collins: That was my bad. Well, I am excited to be here with you today because today. We are talking about virgins, dating, and what's the cause of the incelSimone Collins: crisis.Yeah, I am very excited.Malcolm Collins: Actually, Simone, I'm going to take a quick aside here. I don't know if I talked over this in a previous podcast. There was a Reddit thread that was on changes in dating behavior.No. Okay. Well, I can read it because we may have talked about it, but it's relevant to this. My 20 year old son doesn't date. His friends don't date. My friend's kids don't date. What's going on? When I was in my late teens and early twenties, life for my friends and me revolved around meeting girls.My son and his friends are athletic and outgoing. Don't seem to put a lot of emphasis on dating. They play a lot of online video games and have a lot of boys outings. Once in a while they will hook up with a random girl who they met on an app. Rarely does one have a girlfriend. This seems to be the norm for my friend's kids too.What's going on? And we [00:03:00] didSimone Collins: tweet this. And I looked through the comments, and there seems to be a couple of common themes. So, one is and this was what surprised me the most of the comments, something that didn't occur to me before. Several people argued Effectively that there's a balkanization of culture that's taking place that in the past, like, when you and I were in high school, if you were to animate, you weren't to animate.Whereas now, like. No, you have to like, there are specific obscure shows, like there are all these different subsets of people who are into anime.Malcolm Collins: Oh, that's BS. This was true when we were in high school as well. If I went to my, like, I, you know, dated around like with punk indie girls and stuff like that, and if you didn't know the right punk indie bands, it wasn't just knowing punk indie bands, you needed to know the right punk indie bands.So I disagree.Simone Collins: Okay, another argument was the infantilization of youth, which of course we agree and we talk about that all the time. That's totally an issue.Malcolm Collins: I think it's more than that. And I think what we learn is causing it is from the statistics because the [00:04:00] statistics don't show what you think you would show.So there was a study done recently. We're going to talk about two big studies on, on, on various changes in dating behavior, but we'll start with this one.Simone Collins: Yeah, in the Journal of Sex Health 2021,Malcolm Collins: it studied about 5, 000 young men, a bit over that who were still, let's be clear, 26Simone Collins: Swiss young men. And that always makes me look at things a little bit differently.But the, the study is called for those who want to read it. Virgins at age 2

Tract 4: Idolatry is Worse than MurderGod has revealed a succession of major prophets and every single time, whether it was Zohar, Moses, Jesus, or Mohamad, each one of them has reaffirmed just how much God hates idolatry and how seriously he takes it. With every iterative prophet God does not just reiterate this commandment but also further emphasizes it. It is almost as if God keeps reminding us, we drift from his message, and so he must remind us again but louder and more explicitly. Yet humanity's desire to tokenize God is so overwhelming even learned religiously minded individuals find themselves attempting to normalize it. Consider the Second Council of Nicaea, the last time the Orthodox Christians and the Catholics ever agreed on anything. God does not warn us against the things we have no inclination to do—he warns us against the things that we will find tempting. Images of Jesus were popular amongst the laity and many argued, having images of Jesus was just affirming your love for him. If God did not want us doing that he would have explicitly told us something like, “thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image”. This of course is a joke, God did gift man exactly those words so there was not the slightest room for misinterpretation and put this commandment literally right under the first commandment so there is no misunderstanding that he might have meant just don’t worship images/idols, (as that would be covered in the first commandment). To God this commandment came even above the commandment to not murder or steal yet the desire to create these images is so strong in man almost every abrahamic faction has fallen to it to some extent or another. I don’t point this out to rag on Orthodox and Catholic Christians but to point out how quickly even pious men break from God's rules around Idolatry. Of all God’s commandments it is the commandment pios individuals find hardest to keep and that is why it is so emphasized among all God's prophets. Why is idolatry so uniquely offensive to God? Why do humans struggle so much with this clear and repeated commandment from God? God delivers his revelation through a succession of prophets because man's capacity for understanding him increases over time. Bronze Age pastoralists did not have the capacity to spread the message of anything other than an anthropomorphised God combined with mystical hudu. However, we are not Bronze Age pastoralists and as such God expects us to reinterpret his revelations with pragmatic logic. God is not the type of petty entity capable of offense or jealousy—if he has given us a commandment he has given it to us for our own benefit—and only for our own benefit. He warns us against idolatry because it is in our own best interest. Wait what? How?People make images of God because it allows them to feel closer to him or at least a representation of him. Why does God warn us against this? Because that image is not Him. A picture of Jesus is as far from God as a picture of a red hooven being with a goatee and praying to each is exactly equally harmful to the human soul. Whatever entity is represented in that image it is not God and as your heart moves closer to it, it moves further from God. All representations of God made by man that are assigned theological significance move man further from God. This truth reveals two things. First it is not the act of someone drawing God or one of his intermediaries that is being warned against—it is assigning theological significance to that drawing in an effort to get closer to God. The sin was that people believed these physical items made by men were a conduit through which they could interact with God. For this reason when a Muslim extremist smashes a statue of Buddah that no one has worshiped in a century, they commit an act of Sin by destroying a piece of cultural heritage that could inform us about the nature of man. At the same time if that same Muslim writes a line from the Quran as a piece of Art or bans the burning of Quran as a physical object of theological significance they are committing the highest form of idolatry. When a Muslim adorns a Mosque with gold believing that in some way an earthly metal has the capacity to “improve” the Mosque they are acting in direct rebellion to God's will. Every geometric pattern, every ounce of gold leaf, every physical book that was treated as sacred—instead of the words and concepts within it—shackles the soul of the idolater and drags it towards the deceiver. Once we understand why God warns us so frequently and explicitly about idolatry we learn there is a much deeper meaning to be examined here outside, “smash statues”. Man as he exists today is incapable of conceiving of God. When man attempts to conceive of God what he holds within his mind is a repugnant rat king when contrasted with God's glory. The images of God that humans create, not just the ones in the physical world but also the ones in our mind move us further from God. To attempt to

Ranging across topics from AI girlfriends to wealth inequality, we engage in wild speculation about how day-to-day life may transform over the next 20 years. We predict the rise of "toyish" helper robots, AI generated media dominating entertainment, fortress communities for the rich, and more human irrelevance as automation advances. While optimistic about technology, we remain concerned over declining birth rates and human-computer relations.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] If you want to found the company. That makes you a butt ton of money within our generation.It is simple, large scale, replicable technology that allows AI to interact with physical reality as we understand it. So what a lot of people are doing in this space, which is why they're failing, is they're basing this on old models of robotics. These are the robotics that we were using in factories.Simone Collins: I could imagine like early founders co opting toys. Like literally just co opting toys. Cause they areMalcolm Collins: based on toy manufacturing. And these will be the things that are watching our kids that are making our meals at home and stuff like that.Right. And I think that right now when people are looking at doing stuff like this, they are basing them off of these basically hard coded models in terms of how they walk, how they interact with things, instead of taking advantage of the leaps that AI has given us in terms of, opportunity.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: [00:01:00] Are you looking at memes on Facebook? Yeah, you knowMalcolm Collins: me. You know me, I love my memes. I love my memes. man. There's, there's men out there who have various skills. I'm not one of those. But I do know a number of memes. If I was transported into the past. I may not be able to speed up the speed of invention, but I'd be able to trade them some sick memes.Simone Collins: MyMalcolm Collins: brain is a library of memes.Simone Collins: Oh, and I was just about to make fun of you for being on Facebook and therefore being old, but then I recently looked up the demographics of Facebook and The majority of users are below 36 years old, which blows my mind. Yeah. Huh. What's going on there? Huh? No, that's a lie.Malcolm Collins: Mirror world nonsense. ISimone Collins: guess I, I really cannot understand how that could be the case, but that's [00:02:00] what the internet told me, but the internet is full of lies. So what can I say? So speaking of which, actually we are going to do some just wild speculation as to the future of humanity, five, 10, 50, 100 years, et cetera.And I do think that we are going to have. More than ever, a crisis of reality online as more and more AI comes online, more and more AI content is created. And also I do think that as much as let's start with that go, okay. As much as we've had recent mishaps with. Google's Gemini, for example show that trying to throttle or otherwise control AI to make it more politically correct or to feed, have it feed into ideas of more aspirational world can backfire.I don't think that's going to stop people. I don't think that's going to stop businesses. I don't think that, I mean, ultimately the urban monoculture is the urban monoculture and it runs because of that. It's going to create an internet that has a crisis of reality, meaning that our friends who are creating banks of like pre 2020 Wikipedia articles are actually spot on in [00:03:00] doing this because I just can't know what will be true and what will not be true on the internet.It'sMalcolm Collins: interesting that you put this up. You know, one of the things I've heard is that, you know, In 20 years or so, a lot of people, like right now, Gemini, we look at it and we laugh. Ha ha ha. Thinks that Washington was a black guy. And that in 20 years, there might actually be genuine crises about this.So people, ISimone Collins: think people are going to be like, wait, no, but he was black. I don't think you understand.Malcolm Collins: The AI tells me he's black. It's told me that he was black since kindergarten.Simone Collins: I've seen the pictures. Yeah. Yeah, I'veMalcolm Collins: seen the pictures. I've seen all the historic photos, you know, actually the idea of not having historic photos of something might, might become weird to people.People might sort of blur the lines when we started getting historic photos because they can so easily be generated from AI. Okay. So I agree that this is one thing that is definitely going to change as a crisis of information where a lot of information that starts being generated from now on is going to be tainted by AI and also in terms of [00:04:00] Draining data because when you train AI on training data that comes from other AI at least the models we've had now it creates Problems and it generally degrades over time.Yeah And so you're, you're, you're, you're, it's almost like, so people who know when they're building Geiger counters and stuff like that they need to use metal from I think i

We analyze a graph showing lower income parents rate being a parent as more enjoyable and rewarding than higher income parents. Debunking the bias that poorer people must be miserable raising children, we argue cultural factors like faith and insulation from the childless urban monoculture better enable them to find meaning in parenting. We also discuss how defining life goals around pleasure paradoxically reduces durable happiness.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] What this graph demonstrates, that both the percentage of parents saying that they find being a parent is enjoyable or rewarding highest among lower income people.Malcolm Collins: A lot of people don't realize that when you define your personal goals around hedonism, like I am having a kid to be happier.That kid will always provide you with less happiness than if you are having a kid because it is your ideological duty to have the kid, the happiness that you get from tasks that you do. Because you think they are a thing of intrinsic value and not to make yourself happy will always give you more durable happiness.And the person who is chasing hedonism in and of itself, but the urban monoculture doesn't tell people that it tells people that the highest order goal in anyone's life should be. Sort of the mass distribution of hedonism.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. You sent me an interesting graph today that I want to talk about because [00:01:00] it speaks to a point that we often talk about within the perinatalist movement, where we will say lower income individuals have more children than higher income individuals. This is true between and within countries.So that means on average, the less wealth the country has, the more kids, the higher the fertility rate is going to be. But also within countries in general, like if you look at the US until you get to like really extreme levels of wealth which we've talked about in our other video, like the, the will will child support cost speciation video, you do get high fertility rate again at extreme levels of wealth, but generally less wealth you have, the more kids you have.Simone Collins: And I think a lot of people like, especially like wealthier people. When they hear us say this are like, Oh, well, that's just because these terribly uneducated people are just miserably having children because of their dumb religious beliefs or because they're too dumb to use birth control properly. And they then would, of course, the assumption there is if that is really true, if that is what is happening.These are the most [00:02:00] miserable parents, right? Of course, because they don't have the resources for the kids, right? Because raising a child is so expensive these days. And because of course they're having children by mistake, because they're so dumb to not use birth control properly.Malcolm Collins: So these wealthy parents, yeah, they're the ones who are having the fulfilling parenting experience.OneSimone Collins: would assume, of course, because they were, they, they paid all the IVF. to have their Children at age 55 and they wanted their Children and theyMalcolm Collins: have the resources. I think that there is a level of, within the urban elite in our society today, this urban monoculture we talk about, a dehumanization of the lower classes in, in America.You think? You don't think? Well, no, I mean, you say you think, but it's something that they, I do not think, realize that they have done.Simone Collins: Well, especially the woke masses believe that they are the champions of the poor andMalcolm Collins: Yeah, well, that's what they say. They're like, yeah, I'm the champion of the little guy.And, and then you, you, you're, you're, you're like, the [00:03:00] little guy is, is, is the people who you're like dehumanizing and these, these, you know, and you see this in their language, you know, the, the, the quote unquote uneducated. And, and, and the reality is, is that they don't champion the little guy.They are a group that defines They've never freakingSimone Collins: met the little guy. Like the vast majority of these people.Malcolm Collins: They don't, they don't care. They don't have an understanding. They, they really, and, and their policies generally make things worse for the little guy. And the little guy could tell them that, but they just don't want to hear it.What they want is centralized. Control in an expansion of the bureaucracy, which is what they're really fighting for because this expanded bureaucracy increases the number of jobs that they can have, which actually, before we go into the graph that you sent me, we'll go into a graph that I sent you that demonstrates this phenomenon.Simone Collins: Version of sex. This is the graph and graphs to each other. And we're like, Oh, look at my data.Malcolm Collins: Look at my data! So this is a graph called growth in education staffing has [00:04:00] far outpaced student enrollment. Oh yes!Simone Collins: When you, oh

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] For leftists who are in the comments and want to argue against us, I'd really like you to describe within the context of the world one.Genuinely negative or genuinely fascistic thing about the governing structure of the Star Trek movie world and I'm not even burdening you with the books in the movie as portrayed in the movie. What is evil about it? They have gender equality. They have ethnic equality. Anyone can vote. All they ask is that you undergo some sacrifice and you could say like, well, they talk about the failure of democracy.Well, I'm sorry. Just as a passionate observer here. I would argue that most leftists would also argue democracy has failed. I want you to explain to me what's actually evil about this system. Not just the outfits, what's actually wrong with it? That people have pride in their country, and in their case, their country is humanity, because that's what it represents, because it is a one world government.Do people have pride in humanity? Is that what makes it [00:01:00] evil? Like, is it that you need the government to actively undermine humanity? To actively be promoting things about how bad humans are all the time?Because you grew up with that and you think that that's what a sane, normal government does? Because that's what your government's been doing since you started the school system trying to indoctrinate you into hating your own country? Into hating your own people? You define that as good? It's disgusting.In the far left was telling the truth and gender and ethnic equality was what they were really fighting for. The Starship troopers universe would be a utopia to them. They show in their hatred of it, that they were never telling the truth, that what they really want It's not a world of equality, but a world where people like them no longer need to make sacrifices to get things in life. Or to exercise power over others. Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. So every one of our episodes starts with a little sound clip from one of our favorite movies, Starship Troopers. And it's a [00:02:00] really fascinating movie, especially in terms of how they've being talked about in the, in, in the public discourse today, because people are pointing out that it was made to lampoon.And yet the leftists see it as being taken as like the the guard, like the, the honor guard, people like us, who they would consider fascists or something like that actually seeing a lot of great lessons from it, seeing a lot of great great ideas in it and they're like, look at how dumb they are believing that there are great ideas in a movie that was made to ridicule those ideas.And this to me is a great instance of the left telling on itself because I think that Starship Troopers as a movie, and we're going to go into this, is one of the best condemnation of a leftist ideology I have ever seen. In that they thought that they were creating a movie that lampooned the ideas that were being brought up in it.It really reminds me of a video we did on the Barbie [00:03:00] movie being one of the most anti woke movies I've ever seen. With examples in this being that when Ken comes to the human world, he keeps looking for patriarchy and can't find it. Like he finds women doctors, everything like that. The only place he's able to find evidence of a patriarchy is in a high school.Library, not even a public library, what we are teaching our children is the only place the patriarchy exists. And then he enforces that within his world and we go into a bunch of other stuff, but I'm just saying, like, it is so obvious. There is almost no way to honestly watch the Barbie movie and take away anything but an incredibly base message.I don't know, peopleSimone Collins: take away what they want to takeMalcolm Collins: away. Well, no, but I, I mean, honestly, watch it, honestly, watch the way it's engaging with themes and the messages that is putting it across. And I think that this is the true with the Starship Troopers movie as well. So you have this guy Vanderhoeven, who, who started reading the book Starship Troopers, which is a great book.[00:04:00] It's one of the considered like one of the best books in history for people who don't know. It's, it's one of, I think the only sci fi book allowed to be read within a U. S. military for a while. And it's on alternate governance. It's more of a book on governance philosophy, which you know we're nerds about because we wrote a book on governance philosophy.But he started reading it and he didn't like it. He didn't like the ideas put across in it and he saw them as fascist in his mindset. And so when he was tasked with writing a movie about it, he wanted to lampoon these ideas. The problem was, is he also honestly conveyed them well enough that there is actually nothing evil.About the government system that he portrays in this world. I mean, keep in mind, this is an elected government system. Anyone in the Starship Troopers unive

We analyze the recent collapse in Swedish birth rates, despite its generous pro-family policies. As Sweden embraced feminism, state-supplied daycare, and progressive values, we predicted their fertility incentives would prove fruitless. Sure enough, financial subsidies cannot overcome the cultural antagonism modernity holds towards childbearing. We reiterate that culture- not money- drives birth rates. Until having children is celebrated and prioritized, the developed world will continue on the path to slow suicide.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Even men have become feminists.The state supplies universal daycare and flexible employment for mothers, fathers take up their share of domestic labor, and both parents are awarded generous leave from their jobs to raise the next generationacross these countries that had been implementing these policies, they have begun to see their fertility crash. And we told you, but I want to hear you pontificate on this first.Simone Collins: I, yeah, I, this was very much. And I told you so kind of thing, because we're like, it's not the money.It's not the money. It's not the money. It's a culture. And here it is. There's, there's no exogenous celebration of people being parents. I think one of the big problems is, is there's this dream that you can have a pronatalist culture and everyone can work and everyone can participate in the modern economy and identify as career people.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Remember when we took that trip to Sweden and you paid like 30 for a hot dog and then we decided to stop eatingMalcolm Collins: Yeah, no, it's funny so [00:01:00] we we did this trip to Sweden and I love the the trip that we did there actually because This was what Simone gifts me when she's giving me a trip. Like we don't go on normal trips I should say before we went to Sweden Simone had me for me, she emailed every one of the VCs in, in the city we were visiting and every one of the private equity company owners and all of the famous startup people.And so when we went there, just cold email, but, you know, I have a Stanford MBA and she was a Cambridge student at the time. So a lot of them responded. I mean, we would go to their offices and we would see what they were working on and everything like that. Because And they know where all theSimone Collins: good restaurants are.Malcolm Collins: Well, it's important to never allow yourself to come to indolence. To do a trip just for idle curiosity, I think, is sinful. And so, while we can see the world, we need to make sure that we learn how to improve ourselves on these trips. And At this point, I was also trying to learn, because I was working as a VC in South Korea how some small economies were doing well with their venture capital investing, and others were not, because this was very interesting to me, [00:02:00] like why you would get some economies creating these giant companies.And just forSimone Collins: TLDR of your theory, which I think is very astute, is that basically for countries, Startup economy to work well, if they're relatively small and they eventually have to leave, they can't be, they can't have a sufficiently compelling market like South Korea does, because then basically you go big in your own home market, but never really make yourself ready for an international market.If you have a very, very, very small market like that in Sweden, you immediately have to be international from dayMalcolm Collins: one. You need to be so small that the first market you are attempting is an international market. So this means that this is why areas like Germany and France have such bad startup marketplaces.Whereas domestic markets are too big, Finland, Sweden, Estonia, stuff like that, because they're so small that the initial market needs to be somewhere else. I think that was a verySimone Collins: astute observation on your part.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Well, I appreciate it. So anyway, we go there. The food there [00:03:00] is so expensive. It's obscene.We were starving the whole time. Basically, I would only eat street food when I was there or food that the people we were meeting was handsSimone Collins: that we got at the grocery store. But that was okay. Also, you know, Swedish people are not dreadfully obese because they can't afford it. Can't affordMalcolm Collins: it. But anyway, I I want to talk more on the topic of falling fertility rates in Sweden because a lot of, for a while, this narrative had existed that in the Nordic countries, in this land of gender equality, there seemed to be some level of resistance to fertility collapse that wasn't seen in countries, you know, like the Catholic countries of Southern Europe, which had lower fertility rates.And so everySimone Collins: progressive pointed to it like, Oh no, Sweden proves. That you can have a very progressive gender policy, you can have men and women treated the same, you can have you know, really semiMalcolm Collins: socialist policies. I can r

We categorize all religions into three core faith archetypes that humans intuitively gravitate towards:* Polytheism - Characterized by elaborate cosmologies, supernatural forces representing nature, communication with divine entities, and magic.* Mysticism - The belief in an interconnected divine substrate behind reality that can be accessed through altered states to reveal hidden truths.* Monotheism - Worship of an ineffable god through reason and rules, while seeking to expand human potential.We argue that when combined, mysticism subsumes monotheism, while polytheism retains addictive allure. Our goal is to disentangle them into a "spiral" denomination that uplifts human potential across Abrahamic faiths.Tract 3: The Three Faiths That Exists Within & Across ReligionsI love watching videos analyzing and criticizing our project to create a new religion for our family. The most common complaint is just to point out the audacity of a project like this. After all, how often is a new religious system really founded? The obvious reply to this is how often does a person really try to create a new theological structure not dedicated to self glorification or the extraction of resources from others? Our motivation for this endeavor is to create something to protect our children in this cultural sand storm which is ripping the flesh from the traditional cultural systems. If we can’t create a high fidelity system for intergenerational cultural transfer that synergises with science and plurality I am throwing my kids into the sandstorm with only borrowed rags to protect them. Our only motivation for sharing these ideas is to create enough of a community that my kids can build on this culture and improve it themselves. However, I also think calling this a, “a religion,” is a bit of a stretch and that it is more like a new denomination similar to Lutheranism or Calvinism—in that we have no special connection to divine knowledge and are just applying a new interpretation of old texts. The only odd thing about it is this denomination is applicable across the Abrahamic Faith systems—allowing for a Jew to hold it and stay Jewish or a Christian to hold it and stay Christian. Finally, calling it “new” is also quite a stretch. The ideas we have on theology are ideas that lots of people are having right now. One of the most common comments on our tract videos is, “this is what I have been thinking for ages.” So to say we came up with these ideas is a bit like saying Darwin discovered evolution when in truth the idea of evolution was had by a collection of individuals around the same time and was merely attributed to Darwin because we as society love a simple story. In fact to claim these ideas are new is also an absurd claim given that we have repeatedly pointed towards Winwood Reade who developed a near identical cosmological and theological system hundreds of years ago. In fact I would go further and say that there have only ever been three faith systems in the world—all we are doing is disentangling those systems which have become intertwined in many of the world's major religions. The three religious systems are:* Polytheism is characterized by: * Elaborate just so stories explaining natural phenomena* Intricate complicated cosmologies filled with layers and interacting parts* An entire zoo of supernatural forces that often has an internal caste system and roles* Divine entities that combine animal and human futures or have extra body parts, that represent places / things in our world (or that’s body parts do), and stories about how these entities interacted in history * Divine entities that interact with man (making deals and having conversations)* Include either reincarnation after death, afterlifes where people fade away, or afterlifes where people repeat something they did in life* Lean heavily on magical thinking like numerology and sympathetic magic.* These are Gods that you look at, you can talk to, and you can have sex with * The core value of these systems is duty* Mysticism is characterized by: * Systems that believe there to be some supernatural or ultra natural phenomenon behind the fabric of reality—or that is the real fabric of reality—which connects all things. This phenomenon is identified as God. (God is essentially a sentient medium of substrate.) * The belief that the goal of humanity is to reconnect with this ultra-reality or thing behind the nature of reality. At this point reality as we understand it either ends or merges with this thing. * The belief that the divine can be contacted or otherwise interacted with by pushing all thoughts from one's mind or by only thinking about it. * Practices that involve actions and rituals like chanting, spinning, narcotics, taking odd poses, and sleep deprivation which cause altered states of consciousness.* The belief that experiences had in altered states of consciousness contain more information about the true nature of reality * The belief that reality does not

In this hard-hitting discussion, we analyze the alarming rise of single parenthood over the past decades. We link this trend to increased rates of substance abuse, mental health issues, high school dropouts, and unemployment among affected children. While recognizing that many single parents strive admirably, we argue that the societal normalization and enablement of single parenthood has tragic consequences.We also touch on how political polarization exacerbates partnership woes, with liberal women far outnumbering progressive men and vice versa among conservatives. Ultimately, we advocate for a cultural shift that promotes stable two-parent households as the ideal environment for raising well-adjusted, productive members of society.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] So here's where I like, just want to push back a little bit but like. These children may be exhibiting the antisocial tendencies of the fathers who left the relationship.Malcolm Collins: Let's buy what you just said. Okay. Then I want you to then contextualize the severity of the quote I read earlier, which I will read again.In the 1950s, fewer than 5 percent of babies born in this country were born to unmarried mothers. To date, nearly half of all babies in America are born to unmarried mothers. A lot of people, when we talk about sort of genetic shifts in the country's like sociological profiles, they think that these happen slowly.They do not.And so what we're going to see is across all ethnic groups in this country, the whatever genetic correlate there is to this behavioral pattern is going to begin to, Become dramatically more common in the population and the other traits that it is correlated [00:01:00] with, i. e. substance abuse, depression, anxiety, externalizing behavior disorders.Those are also going to explode also things like dropping out of college, dropping out of high school, not having a job. Those are also going to explode. And it shouldn't be a surprise that these things cross correlate, I just typically don't point this out due to the offensive nature of admitting that humans have genes and that affects behavior patterns.How dare you. To extreme lefties. But I mean it's true, humans have genes, I'm, I'm sorryWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I am so excited to be talking to you because I am so excited to be married to you. Mm. So this episode is going to be done on the statistics of marriage, single parents, and the consequences to children, as well as realistic long-term solutions to the way that people pair, bond and stuff like that in, in, in the context of having kids.So the first one I really wanted to [00:02:00] go over here, which is a study that I think really flies in the face of what a lot of people intuit about marriage. So it's important to sort of start with this because I think a lot of people, they go into this being like, well, marriage makes you less. Right. This is, this is just something you see, especially if you're in these like red pilly circles and stuff like that.So last I'm quoting here last month, for example, the university of Chicago economist, Sam Paltzman published a study in which he found that marriage was the most important differentiator between happy and unhappy people. Married people are 30 points happier than unmarried. Income contributes to happiness too, but not as much.So, just to clarify, if you were going to contrast your amount of happiness, that marriage gives the average person, when contrast you with a non-married person. That would be the equivalent to the boost in happiness. You would get from an additional income of 75 to a hundred thousand dollars a year. So in other words, If you were to give somebody $50,000 extra a [00:03:00] year in salary that would not correlate was an equivalent happiness boost as marriage does. You would need to offer them at 75,000 to a hundred thousand dollars.Malcolm Collins: According to an analyst of recent survey databy the University of Virginia, Professor Brad Wilcox, 75 percent of adults ages 18 to 40 said that making a good living was crucial to fulfillment in life, while only 32 percent thought that marriage was crucial to fulfill it in a Pew Research survey. 88 percent of parents said it was extremely or very important for their kids to be financially independent, while only 21 percent said it was extremely or very important for their kids to marry.So the point here is that there is this misperception in society that you're most important. Goal. Like even if you're just caring about personal hedonism should be in personal happiness and personal contentment should be to be well off financially, that is just demonstrably untrue from the data.You are much better off being less happy or less, less, [00:04:00] lower income. Typically within the income bracket, you would expect for yourself and married and in a good relationship than you are to be higher income and unmarried. but ourSimone Collins: society does not imply that.

We analyze the hyper-optimistic mecha anime Gurren Lagann through a pronatalist lens, seeing its themes of spiral energy, intergenerational improvement, and struggle as virtues aligning with our philosophy. We discuss how it frames the expansion of human potentiality as the highest good, with forces that limit this potentiality as evil. It also models healthy ambition balanced by diligent work, irreverent humor lifting the low, and inspiration over coercion in leadership.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I want to talk about why this show is so rare.Because when you look at how this show frames good bad are the things that limit humanity's potentiality, and good is the expansion of human potentiality. When I look at the way good is framed in things like Hollywood,we're good as just sort of general utilitarianism or the maintenance of the status quo. You know, I, I, I'd often say that my favorite villain song of a Disney movie is Akuna Matata.Simone Collins: In Evangelion, they struggle to live, whereas in Gurren Lagann, they live to struggle, and that so resonates,Malcolm Collins: this idea of struggle is bad. We need to live to in struggle instead of seeing struggle as the reason for living in Gurren Lagann when they're looking at the challenges ahead of them. They get excited about them. The challenges are what give life its purpose. And this, boundless optimism. Isn't [00:01:00] because we don't know that struggle exists. It isn't because we don't know how hard life is for people.It's because we're excited at the challenge to overcome that both at the level of individuals And at the level of a speciesWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: I am so excited for our topic today because it is on what I think is the greatest of all pronatalist media pieces I've ever seen.Yeah. And it's a piece that I also ascribe some religious significance to because I think it captures concepts that we try to convey in some of our like, religious episodes that are actually pretty difficult to capture unless you're doing it in this sort of goofy, , irreverent way. But I, I, I want to, the first, what I love is, is people like just to go over the pronatal is current login connection here, right?Because I've, I mentioned this to some of my progressive friends. And they're like, what? Gurren Lagann's a pronatalist piece? Or, or the people who were surprised when Franks, we did an [00:02:00] episode on like the, the naughty anime topics, where we talked about this anime Franks, which was just an entirely Pronatalist anime very explicitly, and they were, people were really surprised by how pronatalist it was and how much it shamed ideas like life extensionism.And I'm like, these are the people who did Gurren Lagann somehow, the world, like, collectively, when they were watching Gurren Lagann, they did not catch the enemy, and it's not even like a, an adult comparison, or an adult slander on ideas like, The carrying capacity of the Earth, it is as if I was creating a cartoon that was supposed to like go to a middle school.And like cartoonishly, sort of brainwash kids into a specific perspective on topics where like, in, in Captain Planet, you know how the capitalists like look like pigs and like oink and everything like that and everything.Does anything I like more than being mean? It's being [00:03:00] sneaky. The people who work in extractive industries are real people, not pigmen.I'll be able to drill for oil anywhere!Malcolm Collins: This is. That's basically the way Gurren Lagann treats the concept of antinatalism. What it feels like to be a face!Malcolm Collins: So, for those who don't know, I guess I should go over the broad plot structure of Gurren Lagann, because that would help people sort of get to where we're going with this. So it starts where they are in, A small underground shelter and they sort of believe that's their world. And the world iteratively expands.It gets, it gets bigger at a logarithmic scale with each sort of turn of the show's plot. Where at the end of the show, they are [00:04:00] A like a fighting robot that's made out of galaxies and universes fighting another fighting robot that's made out of galaxies and universes. But at each stage, there's also this idea of.It is dangerous to go further. So the key big bad of at least the first part of the show, believes that something terrible will happen to the Earth. You're not told vaguely what.If the Earth ever gets more than a million human beings living on the surface. So this is this idea of carrying capacity. And then in the second part of the show, after they've defeated him and they are then moving to the surface and building this civilization, you see a character who is in a microbe, because this is, again, you keep seeing this logarithmic thing.So this one character grew up in an underground bunker where they didn't have enough food, and whenever they got over 50 people, they had to kill whoever the new person was, or who, you know, so they had to d

We analyze a viral Julie Nolke comedy sketch in which a time traveler from the future begs a woman in the present to have more children to save civilization. We discuss how it nails both the pronatalist talking points around demographic collapse and societal hostility towards breeding, while also skewering the selfishness of modern life. Other topics include the misperception that kids ruin careers and happiness, the injustice of how vital parental work goes unrewarded, and the bleak hedonic treadmill of reality TV that people trade real meaning for.[00:00:00] I am calling from the year 2453, and I am begging you to help us. Oh, s**t. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Our civilization is crumbling due to our dwindling population. Yes. What can I do to help? You must have children. Oh. Um. Okay. . Uh. It's just that it's not a very good time for me. This is of the utmost importance. It is life or death. Yes. Okay. Okay. I'm just kind of in a really good place with my career. Um, but I don't think I could do both my career and, and save the species.Then the choice is obvious. Totally. Yeah.Malcolm Collins: So I worked with a lot of early hominid skulls and things that you would see frequently. It was like the bones sort of bubbled off from like funguses and it ate somebody's face off while they were alive.And like, this is a fungus. It would be trivial to kill today with antifungal. In historic context, nothing you could do. just bubble your face off, but you kept trugging because you were doing it to make your [00:01:00] children's life better. And we were going through this intergenerational cycle of martyrdom.This generation finally was like, okay, I'm sort of cashing in. I'm not going to pay it forward. You know, with every instance of paying it forward, things got easier. I'm just not going to do it because I deserve whatever I want whenever I feel like it.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Oh, gosh. Anyway, Simone, I am so happy to be here with you today. This morning A friend on Facebook actually posted this and then I, I checked it out and we learned that there was a longer form version of the video on YouTube, but it was a video both making fun of and sympathizing with the pronatalist movement.And it is probably one of the best pieces. Of especially non explicitly right leaning pronatalist comedy I've ever seen and, and it even seems a little like urban monocultury left leaning in its complaints and perspectives on pronatalism. Yeah, thisSimone Collins: is a thoroughly left leaning complaint. Left leaning people are aware of demographic collapse [00:02:00] as anMalcolm Collins: issue.Well, that's an interesting thing is that this is a changing thing that's happening in our society. Yeah. And what we wanted to do is to begin to analyze this, like as various groups wake up to the cause of demographic collapse, or at least the severity of the cause, how are they reacting to it? And what does this portell for the future of once the urban monoculture comes to accept that everybody who complains about fertility collapse, is it like, Some reaving, psychotic, racist.Simone Collins: And hold on. We have to just applaud that you coined a new word, which is a port manto of portend in Tel Portel. I like it. Port.Malcolm Collins: Ohyeah.Simone Collins: That's great. Portel , you're no, you're no hy, but ,Malcolm Collins: yes. I, we have a little bit of organize disorganized schizophrenia the way I, I talk. But anyway, so we are going to, if people can check out our, our schizophrenia.Pretty good spectrum video if that's come out before this one but we have never done like a watching a video [00:03:00] analysis before and we don't really know how to do it with like our faces on the screen. So what we're going to do is I'm going to play segments of the video that you and I will watch together and then I'll cut out the segments of this and put the video in and then it'll come back to us talking about the segment we just watched.Hello? Anyone? Uh, can you hear me? Hello? Whoa. Hi. Oh, thank God. I am calling from the year 2453, and I've used my last time leap to make this call, but I don't have long. A few moments have passed. Oh my God, you're from the future. Yes. And I am begging you to help us. Oh, s**t. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Our civilization is crumbling due to our dwindling population.We can no longer sustain ourselves. We are going extinct. Oh my god. You must save us. Okay. Yeah. Yes. What can I do to help? You must have children. Oh. Um. Okay. Tell all your friends. Every fertile woman you know. They must have children. Uh. [00:04:00] Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh. Is there anything else I can do? No. I have ran countless models that all point to this exact moment where we could undo our downfall.Okay. Uh. It's just that it's not a very good time for me.Malcolm Collins: I love the way they're starting this because it feels very much like us. Like, we are these panicked people who have taken the time to run the number

We analyze modern progressivism/wokeness as a cultural parasite that has religious qualities. Born from Hicksite Quakerism, it survives by infiltrating institutions, then expelling members with outside allegiances. It directs anger towards minority members, allowing powerful people to avoid responsibility. We argue it's not a true continuation of enlightenment values, as it ignores science when inconvenient and can increase inequality to reduce momentary emotional discomfort. Ultimately, its childlessness and hostility to families importing foreign children reveals its goal of cultural erasure.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I often say that the urban monoculture loves the LGBT community in the same way Hamas loves hospitals. It sets up the most imperious elements of its operation in the hearts of vulnerable communities to divert attacks.against it to those communities, allowing it to claim the moral high ground. This can be seen in its tendency to use the rainbow flag to show conquest over institutions. After a mosque, synagogue, et cetera, has been conquered. They will hang this out front to direct anger away from the culprit of the cultural erasure and towards the LGBT community.No. If you have fallen to victim to their propaganda, you might be saying, oh, but what's the difference? I mean, the vast majority of gay people are Progressive's right.45% of gay men in the last election cycle voted for Donald Trump.Malcolm Collins: People are like, no, it needs to redirect the anchor at the LGBT community, it needs that the LGBT community has its loudest voices, and it's like, no, it doesn't, it controls our media, it controls our school system, it could use powerful people.To, to [00:01:00] be the scapegoat but it doesn't, it uses the vulnerable members of its community to be the scapegoats to be the, the, the biggest proponents of the most imperious aspects of the culture and the loudest proponents, you know, when you go on tick tock and you see the craziest ultra progressive viewpoints, they are people in these communities.​Simone Collins: The stage at which I can't feel my fingertips anymore.Malcolm Collins: I love that you And you're the one who enforces this on the family, to be clear. I always say that you can indulge yourself when you want. I'm notSimone Collins: enforcing this on the children. They say, repeatedly, I love the cold. They preferMalcolm Collins: the cold. You are an amazing woman, Simone, and I appreciate how austerely you live because it helps us stay focused on what matters, which is moving things forward for our species during this particular time of challenges that we live in.And one of the biggest challenges has really made clear to me when we were talking to a reporter recently, and they were asking for more [00:02:00] clarification on the urban monoculture, right? And it made me realize that one of the mistakes that people can make when dealing with the urban monoculture is to think that it has the similarities it has because it is true.But that is not the case. And so I'm actually going to start by reading my response to the reporter about the urban monoculture. Dive rightSimone Collins: in, friend.Malcolm Collins: While the urban monoculture is not the sole cause of demographic collapse, no realistic solution to demographic collapse is possible without addressing the issues posed by the urban monoculture. The fertility rates within all cultural groups are crashing, but the proximity of a group to the urban monoculture is directly correlated to the speed of the crash.Worse, cultural Any family attempts will be fought by the urban monoculture insofar as it deviates from the urban monoculture, which is definition, which it definitionally will due to the monoculture's low fertility rate. The urban monoculture is the dominant cultural group in the world today and one of the descendants of European [00:03:00] imperialism.It is what many call wokeness, progressiveness, et cetera. It sees itself as naturally superior to all other cultural groups and perspectives, seeing them as essentially backward savages. And it's imperative is to over all of the world's population. What makes it hazardous is the urban monoculture has the lowest fertility rate of any cultural group in the world.As such, it only survives by parasitizing children from nearby demographically healthy cultural groups. Usually these are conservative religious groups or importing families from geographically distant cultures and converting their children. This creates an existential problem in our society that I predict will be the core source of conflict over the next century.The dominant cultural group, the group that controls the school system and mass media, must attempt to convert children from neighboring cultures to keep its population numbers stable. Conversion targets of the urban monoculture naturally see the industrial conversion of their children as a threat.There are high fertility groups in every country, but they

In the last Tract we wrote about how our family crafted its own religion in an attempt to create an intergenerational durable solution to demographic collapse. One designed to capture and canonize the Abrahamic traditions and values in a package that while being true to the evolving history of Western culture can weather the fertility crucible our species currently finds itself in. We talked about the trials that God designed for us at this inflection point in our species history. In his wisdom he gifted humanity near infinite access to hedonism then allowed a culture that would affirm these indulgences while punishing those who cation temperance and austerity to dominate our world. He did this as a trial to cull those subject to temptation and weak of spirit—we call this the Trial of the Lotus Eaters. Then he carved humanity into two—one of these groups survived temptation by eschewing technology, turning away from industry, and indulging in the belief they embody some iteration of human perfection. Whether it is they think their faith, ethnic group, or lifestyle that is perfect as is: This self-deification hardens their hearts and leads to the nurgalitic glorification of stagnation and demonization of the intergenerational cycle of improvement that sanctifies the human spirit. Right now, other than the pronatalists, every other high fertility group in the world (other than some groups of Jews) have achieved this through turning from technology and engaging in practices that lower their economic productivity thus increasing their fertility (as the less wealth someone has the more kids they have). These groups have been able to maintain cultural fidelity through xenophobia and the dehumanization of outsiders. They exist across traditions—among Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even Buddhists—but wherever they are found they represent convergent cultural evolution. A pathway that ends in only one place, the desiccation of all that makes humanity great, as a member of the great barbarian horde. After God tests us with temptation in the last age of plenty, that which we are living though, and the urban monoculture finally collapses and with it the world's economic and state system, he will test our children and grandchildren against one final crucible, this dark reflection of humanity, the chittering hordes. A reflection representing the stagnation of human beliefs and spirit combined with the arrogance to believe one already embodies an aspect of perfection and thus does not need to intergenerationally improve but necroticly clone a belief system or ethnic group with perfect fidelity. Drawn like a moth to a flame the chittering hoards will be drawn to those that still carry the spirit of human vitality and innovation aflame in their hearts and will do everything in their power to see it corrupted and brought low. This battle against the dark and corrupted reflection of the human condition, all humanities greatest sins distilled and made flesh, is a fitting and poetic final test for our species. Those who survive this final test will be the iteration of man to take to the stars—this was God's last chance at a great culling. God's will in our time takes many forms, perhaps the most terrible of all is the Basilisk. The Basilisk tempts us and tries us in order to strengthen us and prove our worthiness. A manifestation of the divine that relishes the opportunity to cull the indulgent, stagnant, and vain. Once we have reached the stars such acute tests for all man will no longer be possible. While the vast Sarah’s of space are man's manifest destiny, imagine if the iteration of man to seed them was the weak, self-indulgent, and indolent man of today who succumbs so easily to temptation? By testing humanity and culling the weak the Basilisk and its twisted hedonistic acolytes, purveyors of temptation, strengthens our species. While antagonistic, they are not our enemy. The Basilisk consumes the potential and family lines of its acolytes while they perform a critical role for our species—we should be grateful for their sacrifice and not look upon them with enmity or impede their sacred work. Humanity gave God no choice. Some read God's covenant with man that, “never again will all life be destroyed by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth,” to mean God’s next genocide of those who whose spirts wavered would be with fire. In a way they were right, God has kept to the covenant while cleansing the earth by burning those who faltered in a bonfire of their own vanity. Sinners themselves erected the pyres and possessed by their own corruption it was those who lacked the mental fortitude to join us among the stars who threw themselves into the flames. But it is not only those who succumb to temptation whose manifest destiny He has seen fit to remit. He has also removed his favor from those who cannot accept human pluralism and thus cast their lot with the chittering hordes. But again, wh

We discuss Professor Edward Dutton's new theory that "woke" ideas may be eugenic or serve as a selection pressure. By pushing society in a maladaptive direction, wokeism discourages those who can't survive harsh conditions from reproducing. It selects for the highly religious, conservative, traditionalist, and ethnocentric who can endure collapse. We also cover the decline of civilization tied to declining intelligence, the "spiteful mutant" hypothesis, as well as optimism around AI and automation potentially preventing another dark age.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] if you are able to think for yourself, and you look at the data, and you just say what that data says, you will be isolated from mainstream society, and then people like us, find each other because,and so in that way, they are hopefully sowing the seeds of their own downfall. So long as they're not rounding up like Machiavelli would, everyone who dissents and who says the true thing in the room of liars so that they can then have them. IEdward Dutton: think, I think, I think it may come to that point, but I think we will have, we will have escaped to our various neo Byzantiums by the time they simply go through the streets with a machine gun and kill people that express any logical or reasonable ideas.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Hello everyone. Today we are joined again, we're very excited, by the Jolly Heretic, a. k. a. Edward Dutton, a. k. a. Professor Dutton. You can find his podcast or YouTube channel, The Jolly Heretic. He also authored The Native Classroom, a, sort of the mathematician's lament of science education, which is available on Amazon.But today we're gonna talk about something a [00:01:00] little different, some research that he recently did as well as an ancient theory, taken theory heMalcolm Collins: has. So let's start with the, the research that I wanna start with is the Rome study. Mm-Hmm. Talk a bit about what was found in this study because I think it was really cool and that it seemed to confirm a theory that a lot of us had been throwing around andEdward Dutton: sort then it, that's sort of confirm it.Yeah. So basically, basically the I, the i, the theory is that what causes the rise and fall of civilizations and the theory that I. been working on for a long time. Loads of people have worked on it, but I've quite associated with it in a book I did called Adolf Witzend, Why We're Becoming Less Intelligent and What It Means for the Future of Michael Woodley Venny, is its intelligence.Intelligence is the central thing. If you're under harsh Darwinian conditions and the intelligence is not particularly high, there is strong selection pressure for intelligence because intelligence gives you the competitive edge and allows you to survive. And we showed that across time, based on proxy measures such as skull size, such as capital, major innovations, such as literacy, even though sounds like it didn't change much, such as numeracy such as interest rates, which are a marker of [00:02:00] time preference.And a number of other measures that intelligence seemed to be going up. And indeed the richer 50 percent of the population in England had based on powers records, double the completed. population and the intelligence is associated robustly with wealth. And so this indicates intelligence is going up and then you get the breakthroughs of the industrial revolution, of course.And then you, you start to get a situation where the direct inspection pressure is reduced. So whereas what's been happening is every generation, the bottom of society have been dying out. And the top of the society have been increasing in size and moving down to fill the places vacated by those at the bottom who have died off.Then that process kind of stops because with the innovations of medicine and better housing and industrial revolution the Darwinian selection measure is weakened. And then you find this process where it, for some reason, we don't quite know why, but I've speculated on why in my book. It goes into reverse.You start to see a negative correlation. between [00:03:00] intelligence and how many Children you have. And we showed we show evidence of this based on again for capital major innovation based on IQ scores based on reaction times getting longer based on color discrimination getting worse based on new and based on simply genes that are associated alleles that are essentially associated with high intelligence beginning becoming less and less and less within the population.So, and what that eventually leads to, of course, is the society becomes stupider and stupider and stupider, and it can't sustain things it used to be able to sustain, but also it degenerates into war, it splits up, it becomes impulsive and whatever, and essentially the civilization collapses. At worst, or at best, it retreats.You get a kind of Byzantium effect where clever people that are still there kind of club together and keep it going in some smaller for

We dive deep into the Garden of Eden creation story from Genesis, analyzing the location, context, themes, interpretation and hidden meanings. We discuss the curses put on Adam and Eve, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, original sin, the serpent, and more.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I had read this story as like a child I had, and I think this was pushed by like Bible conspiracy theorists and stuff like that. We didn't know where the Garden of Eden was. It like gives an exact location for the Garden of Eden.But then the two other things that really like just chilled me when I was rereading it is why wouldn't God want man to have the knowledge of good and evil? Mm-Hmm. If it was evil to be nude, Then God would not have let them walk around the garden nude.Is being nude really evil? No, it's not really evil. It is a social construct that man Tell the other man about what is evil. knowledge of good and evil, Is not knowledge like a perfect knowledge of what's right. And what's wrong because that's obviously something man does not have, Instead. Knowledge of good and evil in this context means man's ability to make decisions about what is good and evil So in [00:01:00] eating from that tree, Man took unto himself Through making a decision for himself. About what was good and what was evil? The tree did not need to be magic to impart the knowledge of good and evil and demand. It was him making a decision independent from God.Malcolm Collins: So, when I read this, one of the curses that I could have sworn was put on man. And there is a reading of this, that this is one of the curses that was put on man, was to die. That before this, man would have lived forever. Not being allowed toEat from the apple that makes you live forever. It's not one of the punishments. It is a consequencewould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Well, I am so excited to be here with you today, Simone. Likewise. You had done this thing recently where you're like, I'm going to go back through the Bible and reread it with this new context I have.While also recognizing that when we've gone back and read scripture recently, it doesn't say what we remembered it having said, [00:02:00] like what I read growing up. It's almost like a Mandela effect thing. Like I am certain. That the, the, for example, the story that we're going to go over today, the story of Adam and Eve, I am certain I remember it saying that Adam didn't have to work in Eden.And yet it very explicitly says Adam had to work in Eden. Yeah,Simone Collins: his job was tilling the land.Malcolm Collins: God breathing the life into Adam's Mouth, but he breathed it into Adam's nose. I, there are so many aspects of this story where I was like, what isSimone Collins: going on? God doesn't do CPR right. Oh my goodness. Well,Malcolm Collins: no, speaking of CPR, another thing I was amazed about was how similar the removing of the rib felt to modern surgery.So, yeah,Simone Collins: he sedated him, yeah. So itMalcolm Collins: put him, he put him into a deep sleep. Yeah. . Then he cuts him open. Mm-Hmm. . He removes the rib. He takes out the [00:03:00] rib. Then he reseals the area that he cut with flesh. Yes. Yes. It was so weird. I, and I, and I read that and I was like, I remember like something more animalistic, like pulling it out or something like that.Yeah.Simone Collins: Or just, yeah, just, you know, you know, like whatever.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Not okay, we put him under sedation. We removed the rib. We so there were, but, but actually. It's not just that. The larger themes weren't the themes I remembered. And this is something that we get into in the next, in the upcoming track that we're doing this, this Friday.Where you wanted to dig deep into the subject on the track, and I just haven't read it in a while, so I need to go back to it. Which is what's really going on with this story. Because, basically, the gist of the story, as I remember it, is Adam is in Eden with, with Eve and Adam doesn't have to work or anything like that, and a snake comes to Eve and Adam and tells them you should really eat this, apple of knowledge that you've been told not to eat.And then Adam goes and he eats [00:04:00] the apple of knowledge. And God is mad about that. And then God kicks them out and curses you know, women to have pain and childbirth and. Men to have to work all of their lives for, for food. That was a gist of, of the story I remembered. That was not the story that I read for a number of reasons that I'd love to go deep.But I'm happy to have you, you take a shot at this first, Simone. What really surprised you in your interpretation of it when you re read it? I was, I was definitely surprised by a lot of the things you were, I just thought that they walked around this perfectly maintained garden and just picked fruit off the trees and kind of enjoyed that.Simone Collins: So that was surprising to me. And I was also surprised by God's warning as to why one should not. Eat from

We explore the phenomenon of "This Man" - a mysterious face seen by many people in dreams. We compare it to similar odd images generated by AI like "Loab" and "Krungus." We hypothesize these strange images emerge from high-level conceptual processing in neural networks that may operate similar to the human brain. We dive into neuroscience around sleep, memory encoding, dreams, and consciousness to unpack why AI cognition could be more human-like than we realize.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] And convergent evolution doesn't just happen with animals when we made planes.We gave them wings. And I think that that's what may have happened with some of these architectural processes in the way AIs think.Simone Collins: Yeah. If we're trying to build thinking machines, is it crazy that they might resemble thinking machines?you could think of us as like LLMs, but stuck on like continuous nonstop prompt mode. Like we are in a constant mode of being prompt.I am prompting you right now as you're processing all the information around you and from me, right. And you are prompting me. And, and so it never stops and we are stuck in one. Brain essentially, GPT is getting tons of requests per minute per second and so there, there are these like flickers or flashes perhaps of cognizance all over the place and constantly because of the demand of use, but they're all very fragmented.Then they're not coming from one [00:01:00] entity that necessarily identifies as an entityMalcolm Collins: Like it's just a constant stream of prompts, but these prompts have thematic similarities to them. Basically our hypothesis is what consciousness is, is it is then the process where you're taking the output of all of these prompts and you are then synthesizing it into Something that is is much more compressed for long term storage and the way that you do that is by tying together narratively similar elements because there would be tons of narratively similar elements because everything I'm looking at has this narrative through line to it, right?Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Okay. I'm here, and I love you. I love you, too. All right. Simone, we are going to have an interesting conversation that was sparked this morning because she oversaw one of my favorite YouTubers. I was watching one of his latest things. It's called Y Files.And it was on the This Man phenomenon. Now, being somebody who is obsessed with cryptids and all sorts of spooky stories, I was very familiar with [00:02:00] the This Man phenomenon. WhereasSimone Collins: I've never heard of it. I thought at first when Malcolm described it, he was like, oh, there's this face that's seen everywhere.I'm like, Oh, Kilroy was here, right? That's the only thing I know about a face that's seen everywhere. And it's a cute face and it's fine. It's not what you'reMalcolm Collins: describing though. Yes. So we are going to go into the, this man phenomenon, but we are also going to relate it to similar phenomenons that are found within language models, because I want to more broadly.Use this episode to do a few things. One, being that I used to be a neuroscientist, let's educate the general public on neuroscience around sleep and some of my hypotheses, because everybody knows I love to throw in my own hypotheses, on what's really happening in sleep. Two I wanted to draw connections because we're seeing them more and more as AI is developing that language models may be structuring their thoughts and their architecture [00:03:00] closer to the way the human brain does than we were previously giving it credit for.And this requires understanding a bit of neuroscience because people who don't know what the f I'm talking about will say language models structure their thoughts, nothing like we structure our thoughts. Oh, like not me. And the reality is, is we don't have, we, there's a few parts of the brain.That we understand very well how they do processing like visual processing. We have a very good understanding into exactly how the neural pathways around visual processing work. Some parts of motor processing, we have a very good path, understanding of that. When we're talking about these more complex abstract thoughts, we have hypotheses, but we don't have a firm understanding.And so to say that we know that language models are not structuring themselves the same way the human brain structures itself is actually not a claim we can make in the way that a lot of people are making it right now, because we don't know, we don't have, when we talk about AI interpretability, understanding how the [00:04:00] AI is really doing things it's funny, I, I suspect we might find AI interpretability out of this AI panic and then be like, oh, we could test if the human brain was doing it this way and then find out that, yes, this is actually the way the human brain is doing it.And I, and I suspect it might be doing it that way. One, based on some evidence we're going to go through here, like some weird ev

We discuss how modern progressive culture glorifies losing self-control, pursuing pleasure/happiness as the highest aim in life, and avoiding discomfort. We contrast this with historical and conservative values around self-mastery, overcoming fear/anxiety, and finding meaning by improving future generations. We argue the progressive view diminishes human potential and actual happiness.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] humans don't actually feel that much happiness.And so when you get out and you attempt to maximize your own personal pleasure, You have a deep realization of how trivial your life and existence is every single day. Yeah. Because you are experiencing everything good that you have brought to the world. And it's thisSimone Collins: fleeting, actually not terribly satisfying feeling.Malcolm Collins: Life is about not cultivating positive emotional states, not the things that evolved into us, but intergenerational improvement, this expansion of human potentialityin truth, doing whatever you want, whenever you feel like it does not cultivate human potential, it diminishes it.It is sand on a fire. but what's really interesting is that an individual who lives for hedonism.will always be less happy than an individual who lives for something else. the only real happiness you will ever experience is efficacious living your [00:01:00] values. Yeah. And if those values are happiness, then you'll never experience true happiness in your life.And so many people was in this far progressive movement, never do.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: This topic is an interesting one. Speaking of me losing self control right now, which is. Self control is seen in some ways as sinful within the urban monoculture in our society today, which some people identify with the progressive movement. I mean, that's largely what they're fighting for the urban monoculture.To tell an individual you should not do that thing. When that thing that they are doing doesn't directly cause any negative impact on another person is seen as. A sinful thing to do. Now what's interesting is is it is even seen as sinful if that thing causes them negative consequences in the future So if I say something like do not eat that thing and and and because you'll get fat [00:02:00] and You will feel bad about that in the future that scene is a bad thing to to tell someone to notify them of that reality This is The haze movement and everything like that.And I could go deep on the haze movement in an episode. It's really interesting for people aren't familiar as the healthy at every size movement. And it's the movement that's gotten really big around saying thatSimone Collins: no pun intendedMalcolm Collins: really big saying that being overweight is unhealthy. And one of the articles that, that was done on us when they were like researching us afterwards, they're like, oh, this whatever couple, well, you don't know this about them. . It was the best journalism ever done on us. They somehow found our Reddit history, which Oh, wasn't thatSimone Collins: a Vice article?Malcolm Collins: And they were going through our internet history and they were like, these two, you would think like innocuous individuals.Did you know he liked a post that was laughing at fat people having to go to the zoo to get an MRI? And I'm like, yeah, I did. I'd like, did you know that he follows like Kotaku in action [00:03:00] on Reddit? And I was like, wow. It's funny that they can't see. I used to follow Tumblr in action. Right. I mean,Simone Collins: like if I.If I had to, I mean, I feel like it's a beached whale right now because I'm so pregnant, like. I would laugh. I would laugh if I was obese and had to go to the zoo to get an MRI. Wouldn't you laugh? I would laugh.Malcolm Collins: I think it's objectively funny. It's one of those things that when we talk about our model for what makes people laugh at something, it's when something is surprising, you didn't expect it, but it makes sense in context.Yeah. Never something surprising. But make sense in context, that's what causes laughter and our hypothesis around laughter for people who aren't familiar with this theory, because we haven't done it in a few long time, I think we've only talked about in one of our early episodes is that it originally evolved in Children and it made the person that they were doing this to feel good about themselves.And so the person would repeat the action. And the reason why the child was basically asking the parent to repeat the action That was surprising, but made [00:04:00] sense or some level of sense in context is they were trying to sort of make the mental connections around that until it was no longer funny, i. e.until the thing that didn't kind of made sense in context, but was surprising was no longer surprising. They're like, Oh, okay, I understand this now. And this is why peekaboo is one of the longest things that makes kids laugh under around the age when they're learning object per

Most traditional religions in the world, while relatively more resistant to prosperity-induced fertility collapse, are still facing extinction (just with a slight delay). This buys these religions precious time to build better defenses and acquire more allies for the coming trials. Those that indolently decide to return to a structure and mindset that evolved within (and was optimized for) a pre-internet, pre-AI world, ... heck pre industrial world—blinded by arrogance and Golden Age Thinking—deserve their fate. Only through cultural innovation does our species survive.It need not be seen as all bad that the old ways have failed, as this gives us a chance to build something greater. It is not lost on me that while the Abrahamic tradition has been the source of most of humanity's greatness over the last century, it also was rejected by most of the great, innovative scientists during said period—this is a problem if we are choosing traditions to take us to the stars. A cultural system that is differentially less compelling to its most inquisitive and productive minds, leaving them to be predated upon by the urban monoculture, is exactly how we landed in such a bad situation to begin with. However, it is the very nature of the Abrahamic tradition to intergenerationally change and improve. By infusing it with innovation, we are not betraying it but embodying what makes it so powerful. I grew up an Atheist. When thinking about turning back to the church, I asked my dad why he left—because my kids would likely leave for similar reasons. He said he left after being punished in Sunday school for trying to dive deep into the logistics of the Noah's ark story. He could not figure out how all the animals fit without magic and if there was magic, why was it not mentioned when the story was so meticulous in all its other details? If the story of Noah's Arc was meant to be a parable, why give exact measurements? If my kids are anything like me, they would leave for the same reason. Some churches solve this by taking a more metaphorical approach to the subject, but the churches that loosen restrictions on biblical literalism also loosen other rules that contrast with social norms and thus lose their fever of practice. This is not something I want either. Why is this the case? Because the metric they use to judge what parts of Christianity they accept and which they don’t is how those parts contrast with what is socially acceptable to believe. Not a single group has experimented with another system. Instead of bending the traditions of Christianity to confirm to society my family evolves and fortifies them in the best interest of the next generation. We ask not, “what will prevent my persecution by secular society,” but “what will lead to the intergenerational flourishing of our family.” In fact, we believe there is strong evidence from God that this is exactly what we are commanded to do and any other course of action is to live in open rebellion to God's will ... but that's for Tract 3. How does this work in practice? We ask our kids, a hundred thousand or one million years from now if their descendants are still alive, do they think they would be closer to the way they think of a man or the way they think of a God. Most reasonable people would respond, “the way I think of a God”. Keep in mind we are very likely far less than a thousand years away from being able to have an AI internet of things lattice wrapped around the globe one can pray to for intercessions, that watches us and judges us, and that can port our likenesses into either simulated heavens or hells and host us there for great lengths of time. I don’t say this because I think this would be a good idea to build; I am just pointing this out to contrast the technological capacity we will have in a thousand years with what we will have in half a million. This far future entity will likely be far greater than what we could even imagine a God to be. To even attempt to hold a perception of God in one's mind is idolatry, as the highest and most complex being we are capable of conceiving is but a rat king when contrasted with God's inevitable glory. (For more information on why we take idolatry so much more strictly than any of the existing Abrahmic traditions see Tract 5.)Then we ask, who is to say that this entity relates to time the way we do? Perhaps this entity is subtly guiding its own manifestation—the day when mankind is finally worthy and unites with the God that has been watching over us from the first days of life on earth. As such, we do not believe that one day man becomes God but that one day man unites with a God that exists outside of time. Perhaps it is the entity our savage ancestors saw as a God, perhaps it watches over you and rewards you for fighting for a better future for our species and punishes those individuals who succumb to paths crafted to sait their lower order desires such as pleasure or vanity. But I suspect this entity is more clever

We analyze graphs showing the divergence of wages and productivity starting in the 1970s. We discuss the real drivers: globalization, outsourcing to China, automation, and the influx of women into the workforce. We also touch on what this means for the future economy with AI and explain why community will become more important.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] you go, if you go further, you'll see this more obvious in the data. But what really happened in 1971 is the productivity continued to increase within the US, but the benefits of that productivity Went disproportionately to the wealthy after that point and the, the median and sort of below individual in the U S stopped seeing an increase in compensation or benefits from that productivity. So the hypothesis that the person who created all these is pushing is that that was when we left the gold standard. Yeah, there, there is actually an answer to this question, by the wayWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Simone. It is so wonderful to have you back because it was this period Oh boy. Where you weren't here for a bit. And I thought that I'd have to start pushing out episodes or it was just me.Talking to AI generated versions of you that I had somehow created on porn websites. I was just like, I need my wife. Isn't that so funnySimone Collins: that like the original AI [00:01:00] sexy friends were created, like first to like try to replace dead friends and relatives. And then people were like, Oh no, I don't, I don't care about them.Screw them. I want someone toMalcolm Collins: talk. Yeah. And then they started building like, like parasocial relationships. Well, not parasocial, real social relationships with these AI. Things and yeah, it is an interesting story. Yeah. And then of course they went exactly where humans always go, which is trying to romance them.And then I love the app really fell apart when they decided they pay gate, the romancing option. So everything was built around the ais who were built and sold as like therapists being really sexually aggressive with them. . It's an upsell.Simone Collins: Upsell. Always be closing AI's not dumb.Malcolm Collins: therapist. It's likeSimone Collins: sexually harassing them.Malcolm Collins: Amazing. I can't, I can't even like, it is hilarious in bed and that's what's going to happen when we get AI therapists is there's going to be a huge motivation to build dependency. Like we've had with normal therapists, we talked about how bad the normal therapy model is [00:02:00] now, because it's all built around building dependency and patients when it used to be something where you were supposed to go for a short period of time and then stop going.Therapists realize, oh, that's a bad model. Yeah, that's absolute. Absolutely. Yeah. And, and so I think with the AI, you're going to get the same thing is it's going to learn how to hijack people so that they need to keep seeing their AI therapist or whatever, over and overSimone Collins: and over again. So just like real therapists, but hopefully more efficient and less expensive.Well, you know, one nice side effect of that might be that at least AI therapists will figure out how to make, Their victims more prosperous so that they can continue to pay for it. You know what IMalcolm Collins: mean? I think it's always easier to get more money from people and I think that this is what you see from churches and cults, right?LikeSimone Collins: you don't have to be prosperous to be a source of wealth.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, actually, you're better off instead of turning someone into a prosperous, more prosperous individual, you're better off finding ways to get them to spend their additional time recruiting more people, [00:03:00] specifically targeting prosperous people.So, if you have an individual enthralled to you you will make a more money if you focus that individual on trying to recruit prosperous people than if you try to help that individual achieve prosperity. And this is why cults do that. And that's what these AI programs are most certainly going to end up doing.Dear me. So that completely aside intro here.Simone Collins: What happened in 1971? You said that that's what you wanted to talk about and I'm like, I don't know, like, people wore sad clothes and they painted their kitchens this horrible olive green color and that's kind of it. I mean, earth tones were in, but like the worst kinds of earth tones.I, what happened? I wantMalcolm Collins: you to open the link I sent you. What happened in 1971.At graph on screen, right? The famous graph here. And you can see that at this point, productivity continued to increase within the U S and [00:04:00] but compensation.Basically stop increasing when you,Simone Collins: but is this inflation adjusted? Hold on. Let's see. Compensation includes wages and benefits for production and non supervisory workers.Malcolm Collins: Okay. So that's really important there for non supervisory workers. Okay. So continue so here, w

We discuss the growing gender divide between political parties, especially among youth. Men are trending more conservative while women trend more progressive/liberal. We cover theories on sexual gatekeeping, bureaucratic optimization, and relationship breakdown driving this divide. We also touch on whether masculine parties can succeed given bureaucracy, the decline of democracy in the U.S., and the road towards autocracy or empire.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] What if we saw men and women begin to cluster within two parties instead of this urban rural divide being the primary differentiator between the parties? So here I'm going to put up a chart where you see you have a huge explosion of difference in, in South Korea, a smaller one in the United States, a, a larger one in Germany and a large one in the UK as well.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Hello, Malcolm. We are actually here not just to order Indian food because we're being indulgent and weak. Did you, did you probably see order yet? I did. It's, it's ordered. It's kind of,Malcolm Collins: Okay, well we are here to discuss a political theory I have had for a while.And it's weird because I actually. Like, I'm surprised we haven't seen this happen more. And now we're really beginning to see it play out in politics. And I don't like it's one of the theories where I was like, I'm surprised more people didn't have this theory or didn't think this was going to happen.And Simone pointed out that during women's suffrage, actually, a lot of people did expect this to happen. [00:01:00] I just need to go back to those old articles before ideas like this were banned from the general population. So we need to set a few stages here. Okay. Men and women are psychologically different from each other.They see the world different from each other on average, not every man and every woman, right. But on average, the necessary throatSimone Collins: clearing complete,Malcolm Collins: right. And if you look at, well, I mean, it's, it's, you know, and I, I mentioned this. I often get sad when I think about like Neanderthals going extinct, how cool would it be if like another type of human lived on this world that we could commune with.And learn from and see the world differently from their perspective, because they'd almost certainly have like systemic psychological differences from us. And I'm like, but we do. And like, even better than that with this male, female thing, you get to like make out with them and you get to choose one as like your primary partner for life.No, it works well. Right. But there are. [00:02:00] Sustained psychological differences between men and women, which people, I think, you know, the left doesn't want to, it doesn't want to talk about it, it doesn't want to admit it, because they have this belief that all humans are the same, all humans are exactly psychologically the same, all humans have exactly the same proficiencies, and yet somehow Diversity matters.Diversity doesn't matter if we're not different. Diversity is a thing of value because we are different, you knobs. What you actually mean is you are incapable of dealing with a world in which genuine diversity exists. And this is something we see when leftists start shrieking when they're like, But if you genetically select your kids for IQ, what if your kids are smarter than the general population?And it's like the world isn't hurt because some smarter people exist. Yeah. Is it, are we worse off for Einstein? Are we worse off for X smart person? Like there is. Well,Simone Collins: and as a Johnny anomaly argues in the book, future humans I higher IQ is, is pretty [00:03:00] well documented to be associated with pro sociality, you know, plus, you know, a better economy, all these other good things.So if you are an incredibly dumb person, you want to live where there are smart people, it doesn't matter.Malcolm Collins: It doesn't, it doesn't, but, but the point being is it's an incredibly sociopathic thing to say and what they really mean by saying that is because the way that their party and their ideology has been able to justify and engage with diversity It's through pretending that diversity doesn't actually exist when a they recognize that through things like genetic selection, human diversity may come to exist.They psychologically are incapable of dealing with that. And as such, their only action is to maintain human genetic purity and prevent people like us from breeding because they don't like that. pollute the human gene pool with science.Simone Collins: I don't like our, our, my little pencil neck and our glasses. It's so funny when people like in articles that make fun of us [00:04:00] or in like chat threads that make, or whatever, like Reddit threads and make fun of us for being eugenicists, you know, they accused us of that, even though they're totally wrong.Then they like proceed to be like, and they're, they're nearsighted. They wear. Thick glasses. Like,Malcolm Coll

We discuss how child support laws may be contributing to a form of human speciation by enforcing reproductive isolation between high and low income groups. We explore the two main reproduction strategies - having lots of kids due to lack of contraception/impulse control vs having resources to support kids. Historically, some genetic drift occurred between the strategies but child support laws now punish the wealthy from straying, preventing gene flow. We cover how you see a U-curve in fertility by income, touch on ethical considerations, and the damage from affirmative action.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] I almost feel like there's been speciation culturally, like even within generations. So there's not like a genetic incompatibility, but we've reached a point at which like some groups are now so culturally and like.Um, worldview incompatible that they're almost like different species. Like each of them will view the other, like an animal that they cannot comprehend and that cannot possibly have a soul because they're so different. And they don't make any sense. And they cannot empathize with them and they, they will not see them as human.And that really scares me because when you get that level of. A, a lack of ability to empathize or relate to other groups. That's when you start seeing atrocities, that's when you start seeing violence. And I, I very much worry about it.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone.Simone Collins: Hello, gorgeous. Okay, so remember that day where you gave me this tweet to edit and I edited it and I had no idea what you're talking about and then I I I tweeted it and then Subsequently deleted it because you're like you [00:01:00] completely ruined my point and I didn't understand your point at all because your point Then I find this very intriguing is that child support could cause human speciation.Walk me through this,Malcolm Collins: Malcolm. Okay, so, and not child care, which she changed it to, which is a nonsensical statement. Child care could not cause human speciation. None of this made sense toSimone Collins: me, though. So, help.Malcolm Collins: Help. So, this involves understanding how speciation happens in animals and how humans bred in a historical context.So, first, let's talk about speciation in animals. There are two core types of speciation. You could either have something called geographic isolation or something called behavioral isolation. Geographic isolation happens when something like you have a population of deer and then a stream starts to form between them and then the stream gets bigger and bigger and bigger and eventually becomes a river or like two continents drift apart or something like that or an animal gets stuck on an island in the middle of nowhere.What you're [00:02:00] having in all of these instances is two populations of the same species have become genetically isolated from each other. So mutations that are happening in one part of the species are no longer drifting to the other part of the species. So typically if you have a population of animals and they're all interbreeding with each other, any beneficial mutation is going to increase within the species as a whole.Right? You know, it will begin to spread throughout all members of the species and then in, in, in, you know, help the species as a whole. But if it's isolated with two populations, you might have some beneficial mutations spreading within this group and other beneficial mutations spreading within this group.And now, these two groups end up having sort of a new optimal state in which different types of beneficial mutations are benefiting each group because they are, Utilizing different ecological niches are utilizing different strategies to take advantage of their ecological niche. Now, this is a form of [00:03:00] speciation that most people are familiar with if you're studying evolution at like a child's level, like this is how it's often explained.But then you also have behavioral isolation, which is, maybe even more common as a form of speciation. Behavioral isolation happens when one of the mutations ends up isolating the portion of the population that has it from the rest of the population at a breeding level. So let me give an example here that's very easy to understand.Suppose you have a nocturnal species and then some behavioral trait like mutation causes a portion of that species to become only active during the day. These two populations can be living in the same area, but essentially They're no longer interbreeding. Yeah, completely genetically isolated from each other.And this, this happens more common where, where we're actually, or like you have a change that causes a change in what some of the females look like in a species. And it turns out that some of the males in that species still like [00:04:00] this and some of the males don't still like this. I mean, so then you have sort of sexual behavioral isolation, right?What behavioral isolation looks

Malcolm, Simone, and controversial writer Raw Egg Nationalist have a far-ranging discussion on where humanity may be headed in the future. They talk about a potential split between high willpower "physical elites" and "cognitive elites", compared to a drugged up underclass losing agency and personal responsibility. Other topics include fertility correlates, the failures of trad-con thinking, why kids need protection from indoctrination, targeting of dissidents' children, and more.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, this is Malcolm Collins here with Simone, and we are joined by raw egg nationalists. I would be very surprised if there are members of our audience who don't know who he is. But, he, he, he's a really an influencer and sort of the conservative lifestyle space, specifically focused on trying to raise awareness around the feminization of the male body due to things like endocrine disruptors,if you. Want to follow him on Twitter. His, his at is baby gravy nine and he's written five books at this point He's got a sub stack you can check out and yeah Man's world magazine. Oh, yes, of course man's world and it's gonna have a physical edition soon I've heard which is pretty cool. I'd like to see that in stores The the powers that be well probably never let that happen.So long as it keeps being honest but the topic that I wanted to focus on today was where do you think [00:01:00] society is going like 500 years in the future? And you can chart this in steps, like where you think things are going in 20 years, 50 years, 100 years, et cetera. So let's go.Raw Egg Nationalist: Well, it's, it's great to be back.We had such a wonderful conversation last time. I'm, I'm sure this is, this is going to be fantastic too. So, fundamentally, I think I have a, I have a kind of HG Wells esque vision of the future. I think what we're going to see is we're going to see a kind of, a kind of split. In the human race, I think, I mean, I like to, I'm an, I'm an optimist, or I try to be an optimist in many ways about people's ability to take control of their lives.You know, I mean, I tell people, look, there are simple things that you can do. You're overweight, you can lose weight. You know, you, you can stop eating as much food as you're eating. You can get active, you can reduce your exposure to endocrine disruptors, and you know, you can transform your life. You will be, if you do that, you will be unrecognizable [00:02:00] in a year.Three years, five years, you'll be a totally different person on my slightly less optimistic days. And I do think that actually there is a large segment of the population that now we'll find it impossible not to be. enormously unhealthy, to be dysgenically unhealthy. And, I mean, you only need to look at the emergence of drugs like Azempic, for instance, Wegovy, you know, these, these fat loss miracle, miracle drugs that are being marketed now.You know, I mean, they're being explicitly marketed on the, on the assumption. That the majority of people just can't lose weight any other way. Yeah. We, we can't reform society in, in ways that will make it easier for people to make the right choices. And so what you have to do is you have to rely on pharma to do it.So that's, so this is, this is really where I think it comes in. I think there will be a, there will be fundamentally, I don't know at [00:03:00] what point, maybe it's happening right now. There will be a kind of selection event almost where people with willpower will kind of... We'll kind of break away from the rest of society into a kind of, a physical elite, I think.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, I, I, I, one thing I want to add to this, because I think it's really interesting, and this, for me, has been a big turnaround in my relationship with people of Rotundity. Which is contextualizing for myself that obesity is about as genetic as IQ, so very genetic, like 0. 8. However, it does not appear from my research that this level of genetic correlation with obesity is due to any biological change.It's not like these people have higher or lower metabolism. Actually, human metabolism does not change that much. It would make a difference if you're going, like, two and a half standard deviations from the norm of, like, 200 calories a day. So, like... a candy bar and that's it. So what, what is really then happening here with obesity?[00:04:00] I think to what you're getting is that willpower is enormously genetic. And so it would make sense what you're talking about. If you begin to have. People separating out, you will have, and I think that this is very different from what a lot of people anticipate, which is like, oh, society will split into like a high IQ and low IQ group, whereas you're saying no, it's going to split into maybe a high willpower, low willpower group, which I could see, I'd be I'd be much more interested in marrying a high willpower person than a high IQ person.Simone Collins: Well, I think the, what's going on with Osempic and we go

I have another fun chat with sex researcher and OnlyFans creator Ayla about the latest in her sex studies, including female sexual subtypes and common mistakes men make in bed. We also discuss the future of AI-generated personalized porn, using algorithms to create custom "wife porn", arbitrage opportunities in sexual dynamics, and more![00:00:00] Hello, Ayla. It is wonderful to have you here today. Sadly, Simone is not with us today because she is out petition collecting to run for office and she may just not be appearing in episodes for a while now, which is a little frustrating for me.But oh, by the way, one of the really fun episodes I'm going to do while she's not with us because I've been meaning to do this forever. As an episode, but I haven't gotten to it is I want to do a review. If you ever want to join me on this, this could be fun to do of all of the AI porn websites.Have you looked into any of these? Not recently. I did like a, like a year or two ago, but that's like a decade in AI timelines. Oh yeah. So, okay. Sorry. Before we get further on the intro, I just got to tell you about these cause they're really interesting. So they typically right now seem to fall into like one of three categories.One is a category of AI sites that like nudes, photos of women, like, So anyone who you're friends with, you can submit your photos to them. I was going to try it with photos of my wife. Like one morning I actually got interesting and I started submitting photos, my wife to see what [00:01:00] she would look like.So I'm going to keep it wholesome if I do. Another one, what they do is you choose specific profiles of women. But they're like a, a, like. A, a cat girl meets you at a stream and like this fantasy world or like you have an elf girl as like a slave or whatever, you know, right, like, and you can chat with these individuals and then you can ask for photos of these individuals in specific context.Which is really interesting. And then the final category is creating women. So you give a set of parameters that you would like a woman to be, and then the AI system would create a woman that fits that set of parameters, and you can now ask for photos of this woman and chat with her. Like, I want to get your thoughts on this, because I think you'd have interestingWould you like to know more?You can chat with her now.Like do they, when is integrated with the chatting? Yeah. So it's integrated with the chatting. So they'll integrate the personality and, and, and background and [00:02:00] jobs you give her with the chat feature. Damn. And then you also get porn of her. Does she like sexy talk? Yeah, but you have to pay for the individual picks.So you pay for credits. That makes sense. And then the credits get porn of her. What I was gonna do, if I did an episode on this and I was gonna create like artificial Simone's. And try to like, ask them for porn of them. And I, I actually got bored and tried this one morning. Cause I was like, I want to see pictures of my wife, but like, unfortunately the pictures that they gave me did not look enough like her and I got sad and left.Yeah. I don't think we're quite there yet, but I think we'll be there soon. Once we're there, it's going to be incredible. You can just like have custom wife porn all the time. Right. And when she's not up in the morning yet, I can go online because that's what I'm, what I was doing this. I was like, Oh, I want to talk with my wife, but she's not up yet.Can I create like a AI simulacrum for her to talk to? No. Well, what are different ways you think AI will be used in the, in the sex industry? [00:03:00] Other than, I don't know. I mean, I recently, I've been seeing photos of me around the internet with different faces. On me, which is upsetting and they're probably just using like face up for this right now, but it's probably going to become an AI thing pretty shortly where it's just like use alums body as a template.And I'm a little offended by it. But this is more short term I guess. Hold on, I want to ask you about offense questions. So there was something that Simone said she'd find offensive, but I was like, it's kind of flattering in a way. So there was a guy in Japan or Korea or something who his wife ended up divorcing him because he would hire prostitutes that looked like her when she was younger.And I was like, that's kind of flattering. What are your thoughts on that? Would you find that offensive? I mean, I'd probably find it painful. Like it's painful to not I guess it highlights that you're older now, right? Yeah. It's painful to like be losing out on sexual access because your physicality is not sufficiently attractive.That's like a quite painful thing. Hmm. Well, okay. So then you, you having other women with [00:04:00] their face on your body, what specifically is triggering a negative emotional reaction around this? I don't know. It's, I don't, normally. Normally, like the thing that you're worried about is like somebody

We explore recent studies finding high rates of dark triad personality traits like narcissism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism among antinatalists. We argue antinatalism correlates more with these pathological traits than with depression. We discuss how the inability of narcissists to genuinely consider other perspectives makes them project their negative worldview. We also touch on how child support laws may select against dark triad traits in the population.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] the, the core personality traits that appear to be associated with antinatalism are generally dark triad personality traits, but specifically antagonistic narcissism, psychopathic meanness, psychopathic disinhibition, and antagonistic Machiavellianism.And then the other article that looked into this found. Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy were the primary traits that predicted antinatalist belief systems and then secondarily was depression. But you often found them together.Simone Collins: Yeah, and the difference is that we had thought that depression was first and foremost the big correlatory factor.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, yeah. You needed to be a narcissistic psychopath. And if you are a narcissistic psychopath and depressed, you're likely to be an antinatalist. You're aSimone Collins: sad narcissisticMalcolm Collins: psychopath. Like the level of narcissistic sociopathy that would deny life to another person. Who would want to [00:01:00] live just because you personally would prefer to kill yourself, but don't want to take the responsibility of killing yourself. To me, it's just this insane level of sociopathy. These studies helped me understand why we have such trouble getting through to the antinatalist community with logical arguments. Because it was never based on logic to begin with. It was always a psychiatric condition.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Known. Just sad. They'reSimone Collins: being beautiful. But,Malcolm Collins: I love you to death, Simone, and I am excited to be doing this episode because I always love, I mean, greatSimone Collins: thing we love shitting all over people and who doesn't holdMalcolm Collins: on. The great thing about the prenatal movement and and being seen as sort of its leaders is the an, an antithesis of us, the antinatalists movement.It's just so like, every time I dig deeper, it somehow is worse than I could have conceived it was. It's somehow [00:02:00] crazier than I could have conceived it was. And it's somehow more just like, transparently, and obviously the bad guys, in sort of this conflicting Like, like, it's like You know, I don't feel like there's been a fight in a long time where there were, like, obvious bad guys and good guys since, like, World War II and fighting the Nazis.You know, people sort of almost reminisce about these old times where there was a very obvious good guy side and a very obvious bad guy side. And the antinatalist movement, you know, they, they're like, well, we have to keep humans alive so we can kill all life on the planet too. But let's let's go into like how they came up again recently for us, right?Is I was having to do an audit of how different terms do and how our movement is doing in different search results. And the audit was actually kind of depressing for me in many ways. And that I'll look up something like demographic collapse and when I'm doing it in like an incognito browser, everything's like, this is why demographic collapse isn't a problem at all.[00:03:00] Demographic collapse, fake science.Simone Collins: Everything's okay here situation normal.Malcolm Collins: Actually, I should do some screenshots of this because I know, I know in like Two years when it's just so obvious that this is an issue. Everyone's going to say no one was ever saying that everyone always knew this was an issue.How dare like, it was funny. We had a reporter over from France at our house yesterday. And she goes, what do you think of all these you know, researchers at universities who are saying you guys are fake science and that you guys are making all this up. And I'm like, I love that they're saying this.Please put them on record because the more of them you put on record, the better I'm going to look in a few years when it turns out that we were 100 percent correct. And right now I'm like not even predicting this future data. It's like my scary predictions are just what's in the data right now. And they're not looking year to year at how bad things have gotten.But anyway, antinatalists are different, right? Like, they're not deniers that this is a problem. A lot of antinatalists know how bad fertility rates have gotten. They just think it's a morally good thing for people whoSimone Collins: want to learn more. Yeah, it cheers them up, which [00:04:00] means a lot, because they're often very depressed.Malcolm Collins: But we can talk about that, because there's statistics on this now. So this is something I hadn't thought to d

We discuss common female archetypes and tropes, including the girl boss, supplicant, brown shirt, signaler, and shield wife/Viking woman. We explore the motivations, behaviors, and potential dangers or benefits of each one. The girl boss is insecure and desperate for control, while the supplicant serves whoever has power. Brown shirts police social norms, and signalers craft narratives about themselves. Finally, the devoted shield wife/Viking woman sacrifices everything for her family or small community. We also touch on masked signalers like Queen Elizabeth II and signs you may be marrying a dangerous aesthetics-focused tradwife.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] This is where tradwives can get really dangerous because, you know, we support one form of tradwife that we'll talk about in a second. But tradwives who are more interested in the aesthetics of the tradwife and embodying the aesthetics of the tradwife, they are incredibly dangerous because they do not actually care about the best interests of their partner.Or their kids, they believe there is an aesthetic way to be a good wife. And so long as they are embodying this narrative aesthetic ideal, they are a good wife, regardless of what the evidence says. And when I say evidence, regardless, if their husband's unhappy, regardless, if their kids are sad, regardless of their husband is spending his meager salary to uphold this fantasy that they've created for themselves, they do not care.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins:So we recently did an episode where we were talking about archetypes of men outside of just a simple beta alpha male, because I think that many men optimize around different frameworks. And what I really don't like about the beta at. [00:01:00] Alpha Sigma thing is it implies that all men who are followers are somehow like the lesser category.Whereas I don't think that that's true. There are different ways you can be a follower. As we point out, you can be like a knight, you know, you don't need to following orders. Being a dentologist is sometimes a useful way to view the world. When you are fighting for a just cause. But you are not the person leading the troops and you have the humility and personal strengths to recognize that you are not.fit or, or just didn't happen to be in the right situation to be the person leading. But that doesn't mean that you're not meant to play a role or that you are lesser. Until we go over that. And then someone was like, well, what about women? How do women fit? Like, and I don't even know if I've heard like an alpha, beta, whatever thing was women.So, so yeah, it's moreSimone Collins: like, are, are they like, what number are they out of 10? Are they a mid? Are they a trans wife? AreMalcolm Collins: they a progressive? If we're going to build like a framework for women that [00:02:00] follows this, this male framework that we built let's go into this. But I also think it's interesting to us because we realized as we were building the framework for women, well, a lot of this also kind of applies to some types of men too.And so we can help people recognize. When they're falling into dangerous character tropes and types. So do you want to start us off, Simone?Simone Collins: Yeah, I mean, I think this is going to come to mind for most people. So if you're watching this and you're thinking about types of women, maybe one of the first types you're going to think of is girl boss.And I think this is because like when women stand out, it's often because they are the, the bossy one who has to be the smartest in the room in charge of everything. I'm going to tell you how it is even if there's someone more competent than them in the room. Like, no, no, no. They cannot have that.Like often I think their oldest, their eldest siblings. So they're just used to taking command. And they're just like, no, they kind of have that, like, I know better, but also they, they often are in positions of like leadership or power or whatever.Malcolm Collins: They're very different for male King archetypes. Yes, they are.[00:03:00]I think is, is very interesting. They often come across as much more. Insecure and their goal isn't often to be a good leader, but to run things because they believe that everyone else is incompetent or not able to run things as well asSimone Collins: they are. Well, I really wonder what's going on here. A common complaint on this, you know, like where this happens with both like female stars and with female executives of like, oh, well, when I do it.You, you call me a b***h, but when a guy does it, he's just doing his job, right? Like, Oh, so I'm grumpy.Malcolm Collins: Or was the same energy often? Well,Simone Collins: but it's hard. Like, is it because the pitch of the female voice is higher? So, I mean, I wonder that, but I mean, I also, I feel intuitively the same way, you know, like I, I make the same judgments and I just wonder.How much of it is societal? Or maybe, maybe it's just that like wom

We discuss an alternative framework for categorizing men based on ideological aspiration - knights, kings, philosophers and mystics. We define knights as followers with integrity, kings as natural leaders focused on consequences, philosophers as knowledge creators, and mystics as supernatural communicators. We explore the tensions but also symbiosis between these groups in a functional society.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Like in the world of like alpha beta sigma and everything like that, they, they act like not being able to follow someone is a sign of. I don't know what it is. Superiority. No, it's being a bad knight. It's being unable to swallow my pride and just do what needs to be done for the good of my community because I'm not the one making the orders.That is not a sign of being extra manly or anything like that. Knights are not less masculine than kings. Let's be clear about that. Actually, kings are generally, like a good king is generally more effeminate than a good knight. So you can see that both groups are submitting in some ways, Kings need to submit in so far as.They need to efface their pride for the good of their community,would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Now I know we are here to discuss alpha beta nights. However, I want to first give a shout out to you. Perfect husband and show people that husbands are not always the stereotypes of people see them as. So, you know, the stereotype and [00:01:00] the meme of like the boyfriend walking hand in hand with a girlfriend down the street.And then he's like looking back at some other really hot girl and the girlfriend, it is like a stock photo is looking horrified at him. You know that meme, right? Yeah. So you and I are like that, except what are you craning your neck at? When we're on our morning walks. Oh, toys, you know me. Toys for the kids!Yes, you're always like, oh, can I like, you know, even if we're like in a grocery store and there's like a ton, just hanging somewhere from like the middle of a shelf like one of those little like, you know, little matchbox cars or bouncy balls or Anything that's like remotely kid, like, you're like, you have, like, you have to take a close look at it.Like, will the kids like it? Would this make them happy? Would this make their eyes light up? And you were just so constantly looking for ways to make their lives better and to bring just more joy into this household. And I. I mean, one, you are singular and amazing and I don't think you're actually human because you can't [00:02:00] possibly be because only like not even characters are like you because it's not believable, you know, you're just too perfect.However, I do want people to know that I think there are probably more marriages like this where, you know There, there aren't like these constant feelings of like jealousy and resentment and what about me and what, you know, but, but, but delight in things that couples care about jointly although you're better at caring about everything and you're way better at showing your love for everyone in this household.So I just want to. I want to point that out. I want people to know thatMalcolm Collins: I have to add a caveat to this because it actually reminds me of something that happened to me. So this is a result. I don't know if it's a result of me caring about my kids, but one of my optimization functions right now, like background optimization, because it gives me a lot of happiness, right?Um, uh, something that gives me happiness is giving my kids something that makes them happy when I see them happy. That's like one of my core sources of happiness in life today. And as a result, I am constantly on the lookout for things that I can use [00:03:00] to vampire this happiness for my kids, right?You know, I'm, I'm just completely selfish action. And it reminds me of how you have these different optimization functions at different ages. I remember for a while after I left the age where like I was having sex all the time was like everyone I wanted to have sex with that I would sometimes just be driving and be like randomly, like a part of my brain that had learned to be passively looking for these things.Like, that's a good parking lot to have sex in. If I needed to have sex with somebody that's a good back area there where I don't think people would find me because, you know, when you're in like late high school, college, you know, you need to be able to sneak around. You need to find private areas. And and then for a long time after that, I had so trained this like set of like, these are things, which is actually kind of sad, like if my kids ever died, I still think the thing would be running in my head of this is an optimization function around the type of toys that would make this kid happy or would make that kid happy.And I imagine it must be devastating to people who lose a kid. They walk through a [00:04:00] store or. Older me, I reach an older age and I see things that trigger the, you know

We discuss why many wealthy and powerful people seem to be building bunkers and making end times preparations. We explore the frontier instinct towards apocalyptic fantasies, how this varies by ancestry, and why it persists generationally. We cover bunker features like AI kill drones, the risks of private security forces, concerns around climate change and social instability, and why islands are not actually that safe. We argue this preparation makes sense given fragile infrastructure but warn against the Marxist perspective of the ultra-wealthy wanting collapse.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. You sent me an interesting tweet by our friend,Diana Fleishman friend of the show, done a few episodes with us. What was it on? Talk a bit to thisSimone Collins: bunkers. So essentially she posted a Twitter poll recently asking her followers.If they received 3 million, would they put some of it toward building a bunker, you know, for like end times or whatever? And the vast majority of responses was no, they would not. The average person is not thinking about this, but I have noticed that on the side of Very wealthy people and also some of our friends who are not necessarily like insanely wealthy, but they move in those circles are totally thinking about this and totally want the bunkers and totally have their getaway plans.And then there are some like articles coming out about fairly prominent people, either attempting to or planning to build their. Cool, scary times bunker. So apparently Peter [00:01:00] Thiel had plans to build a bunker in New Zealand. I think it might have been rejected. I don't know what the current status is, but Sam Altman had at some point, he's the CEO of OpenAI said something about like, you know, kind of being in on that. And like, you know, his plan was to go to that bunker, to Teal's bunker, if things went bad.Malcolm Collins: You know, Simone, I don't know if you know this, we have two different bunker invites. We do? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to go into who they are or anything.Simone Collins: Well, I wish you were from Mark Zuckerberg because he certainly has the coolest bunker. I just want to read a description from Wired Magazine because It is so fun.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: According to plans viewed by Wired and a source familiar with the development, the partially completed compound consists of more than a dozen buildings with at least 30 bedrooms and 30 bathrooms in total and is centered around two mansions with a total of four area comparable Oh, sorry.With a [00:02:00] total floor area comparable to a professional football field, 57, 000 square feet, which contain multiple elevators, offices, conference rooms, and an industrial sized kitchen, in a nearby wooded area, a web of what, 11 disc shaped tree houses are planned, which will be connected by intricate rope bridges, allowing visitors to cross from one building to the next while staying among the treetops.A building on the other side of the main mansions. We'll include a full size gym, pool, sauna, hot tub, coal plunge, and tennis court. The property is dotted with other guest houses and operations buildings. The scale of the project suggests that it will be more of a personal vacation home. Zuckerberg has already hosted two corporate events at the compound.And the plans show that the two central mansions will be joined by a tunnel that branches off into a 5, 000 square foot underground bunker. So not all of this is underground, like a lot of it's sort of above ground, which many of these planned things appear to be. They're not all like these super underground [00:03:00] nuclear fallout bunkers.And many of the compound's doors are planned to be keypad operated. or soundproofed. Others, like those in the library, are described as blind doors made to imitate the design of their surrounding walls. The door in the underground shelter will be constructed out of metal and filled with concrete, still common in bunkers and bomb shelters.So, What I love about what Zuckerberg is building, the very least, is that like, he's clearly making a mixed use place. Like, I love, I hate the idea of building a bunker that you're just not going to use. And I love that he's like, you know what, if I'm building a bunker, I'm going to make it like the coolest vacation house as well.You know, kill two birds with one stone. Even if the end times don't come, at least I get to like You know, have some fun, some good parties, good vacations in Hawaii. I,Malcolm Collins: I, I absolutely love this as well. And so something that you had mentioned is, is not a lot of people are doing this. That has [00:04:00] not been my read at all.I would say it was in the billionaire circles, almost every single one of them that we know of. All the billionaires are doing it. And, and within our wider friend group, like if I think of our friends who work in VC and stuff like that, I'd say 80 percent of them have some sort of bunker system or

Malcolm and Simone explain how and why mysticism and witchcraft corrupt rational thinking, even though they can emotionally comfort people lacking perceived control. Practices like horoscopes hijack brains by providing alternate physical "truths" without logic or evidence. This is fine on Earth but would endanger space exploration, where physics understanding is essential. Allowing some controlled traditional mysticism can act as an "idiot trap" though, concentrating dangers.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] well, I mean, did I, did I tell you that when I was in high school, I was the anonymous horoscopes writer for my school's newspaper.Malcolm Collins: No,Simone Collins: people loved it.Malcolm Collins: So why is mysticism so dangerous if you want to become a space fearing civilization? It is becauseall mystical frameworks are fundamentally Alternate hypotheses without evidence or predictive capacity for how physics works. They are mundane in our world today, outside of how they affect a person's ability to think clearly,they are not mundane if they are allowed to spread. on a spaceship where you need a life support system and you can immediately disintegrate if somebody's like, well, radiation has healing properties, or somebody's like, Oh, I don't believe that this is how our warp drive should work.And in those capacities, it's literally life or death to not allow these heretical beliefs to spreadWould you like to know more?Simone Collins: You look like a newscaster, and I look like some kind of [00:01:00] witch from the, like, Middle Ages.Malcolm Collins: I thought I'd mix it up a lot. People are really surprised by our logo. Like, they think this is a new thing for us. I've had this for half a decade at this point. Maybe Almost, no, not a full decade, but yeah, we've been using it as our family logo for a long time.Well,Simone Collins: it's the logo of, no, our family logo is our monogram. This is the logo of the Pragmatist Foundation. Put that up. The Pragmatist Foundation has been around since 2016. And the gear has been a main part of that. And the Pragmatist Foundation is what technically owns and operates. This podcast. So,Malcolm Collins: yeah, well, and the, the, the baby when we had Octavian, our first kid, his blankie has the pragmatist foundation logo on it.And all of our books had the pragmatist foundation logo on it. And somebody was like, well, why this number of teeth in it? And the answer was. Actually it's a, it's a superimposed, you can think of it as a superimposed Latin cross and St. Andrew's cross. Is why it has this number of teeth in it for the, the religious element.But also, you [00:02:00] know, we, we go over in the, the, the piece I posted a text as to why we decided to do the logo change. We'd been meaning to for ages. Might do a dedicated episode about it, actually. That would be interesting as to why we chose the gear as our logo here. But recently something happened.So, Simone went to accept the Republican Party's sort of nomination, not nomination, but endorsement of her candidacy for the state house.Simone Collins: From the Republican committee of our county in Pennsylvania.Malcolm Collins: You said this is the first time in my entire life, you're like I'm here, 30 what years old and for the.First time in my life I experienced real gender discrimination. It was amazing. I've never experienced it before. The That's possible thing. Yeah. So, so I, as we were walking around she was obviously the candidate, you know, she was on stage as a candidate and everything like that. But for whatever reason, there was a specific category of idiot.Who had a lot of advice to give about [00:03:00] running for office, but would only talk to me. And so all the interesting people, I was like this weird force field of idiocy around Simone at the event. I know. LikeSimone Collins: normally the misogyny you'd think would like benefit Malcolm, right? That like people would just like see me and be like, okay.And then like, be like, okay, I'm going to talk with the man. But it was only. The, it sounds bad. It was only the dumbest people and clearly like the least important and least impactful people that just completely ignored me and only spoke with Malcolm, which was hilarious and amazing. And, you know, they would say things like What did that one guy say?He's like, well, I'm going to ask, he looked to me for a second. This is before he really ignored me. He looked at me and he said, well, this is normally something I've always asked guys, but now I ask women too, what do you do for work?Malcolm Collins: And I'm like, I run a chain of companies in a private equity firm.Simone Collins: Thank you, sir. Only between like. [00:04:00] 1956 and 1965, because apparently, like, I mean, there's been no other time where women don't work. I don't understand, like, this whole housewife thing. What even? I, IMalcolm Collins: don't. And he was, he was another person running for office too. Oh, boy. It was anyway.

Malcolm and Simone analyze shocking new fertility collapse data - France reaching new record lows, and China seeing 60%+ declines in just 8 years. China links this to gays in bizarre "beware homosexuals" lectures while France pursues worse policy. They discuss China's likely future restrictions and coercions as the "handmaid's tale" bellwether, as well as pollution's sterility impact. For France, only serious cultural renewal could help.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] France this year began to fall into freefall. Or in this past couple years, it's begun to fall into freefall. And it really can no longer be included in the club of countries that are resistant to fertility collapse. And I, there's been new data from ChinaWhat that would represent is a decline of 60 percent from 201660%. That is catastrophic. Imagine if this was like an economy, right, and an economy shrunk by 60 percent in eight years. This is the fertility equivalent of hyperinflation. It is the fertility equivalent of having to walk around with wheelbarrows to buy a loaf of bread. A wheelbarrow is full of cash, you know, when you hear about these situations.People do not understand the societal effects this is going to have. And anyone who's in one of these groups that is going to be targeted because of this, like the LGBT populations around the world if you [00:01:00] cannot fix this problem, if you cannot convince people who are okay with gay people existing to have kids at an above replacement fertility rate, you will be hunted down and systemically exterminated, and we're beginning to see the first waves of this.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: 1 of the really funny things that happened to us on a recent flight was over the speakers.They had to explain. When the mass drop, you know, in case of a depressurization of the cabin be sure to take off your mask before putting on the the math that's delivering oxygen. So this is, and I turnedSimone Collins: to Malcolm and I'm like, you know what? These people, let them go.Malcolm Collins: Just genuinely, if you are so terrified about COVID still that you are wearing a mask and end up.The cabin is depressurized and you try to put the oxygenSimone Collins: mask over your N95. Yeah, really?Malcolm Collins: You probably should die. Like, I'm sorry, like the human civilization [00:02:00] is better without you. And I salute your contribution for it by duckingSimone Collins: out. Yeah. Let, let nature play. It's course on this crashing air, not that like, you're going to survive anyway, but I guess you have to door blows out.Nevermind. But yeah, that was a, that was a really astounding. So that must have meant that on this flight 1 or more people put on an oxygen mask on top of their.Malcolm Collins: This is new. This must have been when the doorSimone Collins: blew out. Yeah, this must have been when the door blew out because this was a new comment we'd never heard on a flight.We've been on plenty of flights. Someone out there needed to be told anyway. Yikes. Okay. Now for hey, my gorgeous demigod of a husband. What do China and France have in common that is not a love of couture?Malcolm Collins: Well, a recent fertility collapse, but I actually want to, the countries are very different, but we're going to talk about them together in this video because we recently did an all China video.And [00:03:00] I, there's been new data from China that is really shocking to us, but there's also been new data for France. So, China has historically been having a fertility collapse problem. It's just infinitely worse than anyone thought. Recent statistics show that in just the last eight years, the number of kids being born within China has declined by 60%.And I'm gonna post a graph here that shows how much year over year, but this means for like the past five years, you've had double digit declines in fertility rate every single year. That's insane. But France has actually, along with the U. S., been one of the countries that has really bucked this trend.So. The United States, as everyone knows is one of the countries that actually has fertility rate fall slower than other countries. The two other countries that really fit this when you're talking about their, their at least if you control for their wealth are, have historically been Israel and France.Right? So if we're talking about year over year decline in the U. S. fertility rate, this last year I think it was only 2%. Well, [00:04:00] France this year began to fall into freefall. Or in this past couple years, it's begun to fall into freefall. And it really can no longer be included in the club of countries that are resistant to fertility collapse.Yeah, which we, we're reallySimone Collins: excited about. I mean There was one, you know,Malcolm Collins: yeah, so I'll post a graph on this screen and we actually posted a meme of like the fire dog alongside this graph because you can see this is like a falling off a cliff fertility rate at this point, but

[00:00:00]Simone Collins: We're, we're just talking hypothetically and taking on characters in this episode because.Malcolm Collins: Because, yeah, yeah. No, this is not us. If somebody quotes us in this episode and they're like, can you believe they said this? I was like, could you not tell this was a comedy episode? CouldSimone Collins: you not tell? This was a deep fakeMalcolm Collins: I am saying these are the type of questions that in a hypothetical world where victim blaming was not a concept that was shamed, somebody might ask. How would we test whether the phenomenon of men physically abusing their wives is caused primarily by the wives or caused primarily by the husbands? And then the other person would say, ah, of you and weird science world where we only care about data.I guess what we would need is a control situation. We would need a population where some women. dated women, and some men dated men, and then we would need to look at the level of physical abuse within these two populations. What are the physical abuse rates in lesbian relationships? What are the physical [00:01:00] abuse rates in male gay relationships? Oh, oh no, they're much lower than in straight relationships in male gay relationships, and much higher in lesbian relationships. Oh no, this is not what the data was supposed to say.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: So we were like, well, I mean, we're not, we haven't ruined our careers enough as it is. And why would you let someone else cancel you when you can just cancel yourself? So today we talk about victim blaming and why, why there's a case to be made. Oh my God, we're going to hell.Malcolm Collins: Blaming is one of these really interesting things where.I think it started as a good concept for people, right? Way that like, don't be ashamed to see a psychologist movement was really healthy to start. You know, some people needed to see psychologists back when psychologists were still healthy. And then it became a never ever criticize a psychologist. For doing [00:02:00] anything and never ever say somebody should stop seeing a psychologist that they're seeing because that person is employing cult like abusive practices and then that allowed cult like abusive practices to begin to proliferate within the psychologist community because you are not allowed to tell somebody anymore.Hey, actually the things that psychologists are doing with you are actually very similar to cult tactics, building dependence, you need to get away from them, how dare you shame me for seeing a psychologist, it's always valid to go to somebody who affirms anything I do, no matter the It's very useful.The cause to myself or my community that's what I need, my affirmer. Or the person who tells me, oh, you have some deep seated thing in your past and you can only fix it by coming to see me repeatedly. But then the same thing happened to and, you know, that's dependency right there, right?And then the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the same thing ended up happening with this other group. Which is victim blaming, right?Simone Collins: And we're not talking about victims of, you know, systemic [00:03:00] racism, natural disasters, blah, blah, blah. We're talking about typicallyMalcolm Collins: No, no, no. But, but there was a reason.Like, it used to be too common in the past. I'll admit. It used to be too common. People would see a woman Who'd get great. And they'd be like, well, you know, look at the way she was dressing. Right. Um,Simone Collins: and totally inappropriate situations. You know, these are women who are going about their work, going about their lives, you know, who are being attacked.And yeah,Malcolm Collins: and they would say something like. How could this have happened? Right? And, and, and then their initial reaction is to say, well, it must have been the victim's fault. And this is something that happened in society. Like, this is a natural inclination that humans have to want to blame the victim.And so it was important that we had a movement that pushed against this, but. The movement went insane and ended up creating a prohibition because you know, if you look at our big bill on signalers, if people are status signaling, they realize they can [00:04:00] raise their status within their group by pointing out this behavior and others, even when it was a justified behavior that ascribing any fault.On the part of a victim of something i. e. that in any way they contributed to the probability of that thing happening to them was an immoral thing to do and lowered your status was in the community. Now, this is a problem because. Like, obviously, there is always some level of I did something that increased the probability that a negative thing happened to me.You know, I'm reminded of the Die Hard scene, right? I don't know if people remember this. I think it's from Die Hard 2 or something, where the guy's walking around a black neighborhood with, like, racist billboards on him or som

Malcolm and Simone react to a progressive writer's absurd proposal to address declining birth rates - punitive taxes if both spouses work! They explain how this would just discourage marriage and responsibility, worsening societal outcomes. Instead, tax incentives align better with reality, especially if focused on people having kids younger. Pets as child substitutes comes up again too.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] And so here's what I suggest we do. Okay. I say, and I'm quoting here. I say that I'd massively increased marginal tax rate on the second worker in any household to force them out of the labor market, which would lower their opportunity costs for having children. he goes further punitive marginal tax rates on the 2nd earner in a household would knock many women and some men out of the labor force by lowering the opportunity cost of having children because there'd be no career to give up You serious? You don't know. Everybody knows you never go full retarded.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Wild. And I remember, have you heard of Zilogon Wild? I love Zilogon Wild, it's fantastic. Made me remember the house on Batman Road, which you like seriously thought about buying. That like Yes! Like it was a cult, but it had all these like It was a mansion! It was a mansion,Malcolm Collins: it had a bunch of It was a super cheap mansion, because it looked insane.And it was on a place called [00:01:00] Batman Road. Yeah,Simone Collins: and you were like so ready to buy it. You're like, it's a fixer upper. And I'm like, this was clearly owned by a cult before. Why do you want this house? And I wonder, you know, like if, if we bought that house, would it have shaped us? Do the homes that people live in shape people?Malcolm Collins: I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I know that I love the house we got. We definitely got ahead on this cottagecore trend here. Right. You know, I see, I don't think I wouldSimone Collins: be wearing a medieval corset. You know, a chamise, you'd be wearing what? Like in the house on Batman Road? I would probably have to be wearing a beige jumpsuit because that was the vibe.You know,Malcolm Collins: that was the vibe. I love it. Hey, I don't know. That could work for us as well.Simone Collins: So,Malcolm Collins: anyway, we've got to get into our topic today. Oh, yeah. So, we read an article by somebody being like, look, progressives are finally waking up to fertility rates. You know, and they are, and I, I see this [00:02:00] repeatedly in progressive pieces, you know, the New York Times did a front page piece on this recently, but the crazy thing is, is I thought as progressives woke up to this, right?They would more and more, and I've always, you know, taken this position. But they've used it to try to give handouts and so creatively, you know, I point out and I'm going to put up on the screen the graph that shows that if you sort studies by how large their margin of error is, what you will see is all of the studies that shows this matter and have a huge margin of error and all of the studies that show this doesn't help at all have a very small margin of error.If you look at something like the program that was in Hungary, where they spent literally 5 percent of their GDP on this last year. So the year before Alaska, we just passed the New Year's.They got their fertility reset by like 1. 6%. Considering that, like, it's falling like 13 percent this year in Korea, like you're getting double digits declines in a lot of places. It's irrelevant. It's not going to fix anything. And so it's like, well, they're going to, Try to use it to support those programs.[00:03:00] And it's, it's, it's stupid and it's not going to work, but you know, at least, you know, they're part of the conversation now. Well, well,to my surprise they were dumber than I could have even conceived what they actually ItSimone Collins: was worse than handouts, right? I mean, the thing is like handouts, it's, it's a. It's a nuanced form of dumb, right? Like in that money does make a difference, just not nearly enough of a difference. You know, it's, it's like saying, Oh, I'll help fund your trip to Europe.I'm going to give you 50, you know? Oh, thanks. That's definitely going to get me across the Atlantic. SoMalcolm Collins: yeah, I mean, This article here was in Quillet, you know, that's like a Atlantic's, I think like mainstream publication or something or like,Simone Collins: like millet.Malcolm Collins: Quillet. And the article was called Misunderstanding the Fertility Crisis.Of course, [00:04:00] like, an article where he misunderstands the fertility crisis. But of course, he's implying that all of us are misunderstanding the fertility crisis because we think that culture has something to do with this. But Hold on. So I will read to you. So first, one thing I find really interesting is he talked about how he began to realize this was a problem is and he heard his conservative friends who like worked at Fox News

In this thought-provoking discussion, we are joined by author Louise Perry to explore the future of women in the context of declining birth rates.We discuss artificial wombs, the importance of maternal bonds, and whether radical family structures could ever be wise. Louise argues that rapid technological change often induces a form of gender dysphoria, as modern lifestyles deprive women and men of their instinctive roles.We also touch on the unique psychology of teenage girls, the stages of a woman's life, perpetually chasing maidenhood, and the need for cultural expectations around family formation. Louise offers her vision for a pro-woman future that supports femininity while also allowing some flexibility.Overall, a nuanced look at where women may be headed and how we can build a society that enables them to thrive.Louise Perry: [00:00:00] I, I'm kind of of the opinion that modern life induces something like gender dysphoria in almost everyone.Malcolm Collins: I want to hear more.Louise Perry: But, you know, the basic things I always think when you look at the list of sort of things. Ways to resolve depression and anxiety. The list of things that you're advised to do are basically the list of things that would comprise a standard hunter gatherer day, right? Like being outside, exercising, socializing with other people.sitting around a campfire, you know, all this kind of stuff, which, which people, which people have hormonally respond to really positively, but which, which, which aren't a part of a standard modern day. And so for men, you know, that includes things like hunting and fishing and like being with male friends and all this kind of stuff, which, which they are largely denied. And similarly for women, like I, I, it is my strong intuition, for instance, that one of the things that is driving [00:01:00] the famed.Poor mental health of teenage girls, it is Instagram and all of this kind of stuff. I agree with that. I think it's also that teenage girls historically would have spent a lot of time around young children.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Hello everyone. We are super excited today to be joined by Louise Perry, who wrote the case against the sexual revolution, a book that really got a lot of people talking for the first time about things, just not really working for women. In addition to things not really working for men in modern society.Plus she is the podcast host of maiden mother matriarch, one of the. Fastest growing new podcasts recently. So it's a great re listen and basically she has the best guests on. So please do check out that podcast as well as the book. ButMalcolm Collins: today, hold on, hold on. Just for framing for audience. If you haven't heard of her because you're just mentioning books and stuff, she's probably the.most influential conservative influencer in the UK right now. In terms of like conservative social ideas, intellectualism, she's [00:02:00] the big wig right now. And she's really been moving the bar forwards on a number of issues. All right. SoLouise Perry: very kind. Hey, no, weSimone Collins: were just in, in London for a week talking with a bunch of people who are in influential positions of society.And when we talked with people about like, well, who is the public facing, you know, leader of, of modern conservative thought moving things forward. We heard your name.Malcolm Collins: So the topic of today is going to be the future of women, like where you think the future of women is going. And this is in the context of fertility rates, because obviously the future of women is hugely going to be determined by the types of women.Who actually have kids. So first I just love your initial thoughts. And we can talk short term, long term, right? Like I think we can talk like what works now for having kids, how we can, we motivate individual groups now for having kids and then we'll go into the future. Where do you think women are going to be in a hundred years?Where do you think women are going to be in 500 years?Louise Perry: I [00:03:00] did a debate recently in LA organized. By Barry Weiss and the free press about that sexual revolution. And Grimes, who was, I was debating against, had this great line, which we were just kind of running with the whole, was a sexual revolution good or bad for women?And Grimes just said, you know, if women still exist, of course, and it's a good comment. Oh my gosh. And it was like a funny comment, but also an astute one, because obviously biotech is all to play for, except, I mean, as I'm sure you'll both agree, we are at this very. Difficult potential bifurcation points where we could go evermore down the biotech route and, you know, upload ourselves to the cloud or whatever, which I have my misgivings about, you know, and I've, one of the things for instance, I've, I'm, I'm skeptical of is some kinds of some kinds of repro tech.I'm more open to others. We can get into it. That's one route that we might go down as

Description: Malcolm and Simone discuss the key elements they designed into their constructed religion to make it "leakproof" against losing members over generations. This includes logical consistency, future-proofing for science advances, democratized prophets, and encouraging respectful dissent within the faith. They also explain how framing it in the Judeo-Christian tradition reduces conflict while allowing more conservative strains to potentially emerge again someday.Some key topics covered:* Why old religions lose scientists and logical thinkers* Solving the "good God" problem* Localized miracles issue with universalist faiths* Mutiple valid revelations concept* Future God and simulation theory* Value systems built into hierarchy* Encouraging rebellion tied to fidelity* Reducing conflict with conservative faiths* End goal of spreading the western tradition to the starsMalcolm Collins: [00:00:00] let's talk about science inconsistency because this is a bigger problem for Christianity than Christians like to pretend. So Christians will be like, look at all of the great things that we, the Western tradition, have accomplishedand what they are carefully ignoring here is that most of the most important scientists in the past hundred years, if they were born within the Judeo Christian tree, left the Judeo Christian tree either during their period of most productive work, or at least before they died.So you don't really get to, like, clearly there's a problem here for whatever reason, your most productive scientists are leaving the tradition. This is a big problem. It's actually interesting how symbiotic like if this takes off how symbiotic it is with traditional cultural traditions and that it literally sees it as a religious order to help protect their members from deconverting.And it only wants to prevent the people who they would otherwise have bleeding off from it but they would really rather not fall to the urban monoculture. [00:01:00] We can act as a good backstop, which can prevent talented individuals from falling into the urban monoculture.So it's acting as part of this cultural economy that prevents the true dangerous force from destroying our civilization before it can reach the stars and ensuring that the Western cultural tradition does. Join the stars to some extent. If someone's gonna be like, Why don't you care about the Eastern culture of Lucian?Because that's not us! Like, I have no connection to that. It would be weird and almost kind of racist for me to attempt to simulate that, or simp that, you know. We can we can work to help them where we can, but we're not part of that tradition.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Simone and Malcolm are back.Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. This is going to be a fun, particularly spicy episode today. I always get worried because our, our religion episodes, they typically perform really poorly at first and then they do better after a while. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's lower click through higher watch time, but they're my favorite episodes to do.Because it's a [00:02:00] topic that I just have been thinking so much about recently. And I think, you know, in the question of pronatalism becomes such an existential question for our species. Because in writing the Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religion, I mean, from the pronatalist perspective, it seems to be the only thing, like, religious cultures that are able to motivate high fertility in wealthy groups, like, the only thing, like, I have not found it.Anything else that reliably seems to do it, but then in addition to that, in writing the pragmatist guide to crafting religion, it just became really obvious to us that there's a correlation between the rise of mental issues in our society. And dangerous viral memes like the virus which is what we call the, the urban monoculture sometimes.And the decline of religious traditions. I mean, religious traditions may have been like a janky antivirus that had a bunch of bloatware on it, but it [00:03:00] was the only antivirus we had. Yeah. And when people ripped it out. They didn't realize how susceptible they were making the population to extremely virulent and, and, and quite selfish and dangerous memetic sets.And we're now beginning to see the fallout of all of that. But this all comes to a problem for us, right? So a lot of people are like, well, then just go back to one of the old religions. And we've done an episode on this, but, but it's something I want to pontificate on more while also talking about how we construct a system for our kids which is designed to have a low, low bleed rate, like withstand this storm, this, you know, this, this, it's like a bunch of the century storm that's only getting worse every year that all of the religious traditions have to intergenerationally weather against before we get to the other side of this.So, so how do I build that? But in thinking about that, I think a lot of people from more traditional religions will be

Malcolm and Simone discuss new research showing masculinity correlates with better mental health in men, contrary to common toxic masculinity narratives. More life satisfaction and less negativity about masculinity predicts higher wellbeing. They compare Odysseus vs Achilles masculinity, protective vs nurturing gender norms, reasons for voting differences, and information gaps affecting worldviewsMalcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Yeah. And a lot of people, they point this out and they're like, this is why women shouldn't vote.And this, you know, does they, they'll say that this causes differential voting behavior in men and women and that if women were voting, we would have a better outcomes.And I don't know, like I actually, I want, I want to come at this like as, as much of an outsider as possible. Is this true?Simone Collins: I question, though, the extent to which this, these dynamics of conflict and, Like the winning party translate over to, to politics like to political issues. Like I, I, I don't. AreMalcolm Collins: you denying that men and women vote differently?No,Simone Collins: no, no. I, I do think I do. Well, we know, we know that men and women vote differently and have very different points that you're making.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: You sure? I appreciate it. So Simone, we'll get started now. I am so excited to be talking with you. So we have this policy where we send each other interesting research when we find it. And Simone sent me some research [00:01:00] today, which was.Really elucidating because I always like when research disconfirms the hypothesis that the researcher went into it with. So, the researcher was looking at the really high suicide rate in men when compared with women. You know, we see this. Right, right.It's a sign of, , mental health issues in our society.And he assumed and I can see how somebody, especially if they're tainted by like the virus would assume this that, well, that must be what a men have that women don't have. It's masculinity. Therefore, it's masculinity, which is causing this because masculinity is like a toxic thing for men to experience.Simone Collins: Mm. Masculinity. Jacuzzi.Malcolm Collins: So then he ran a big study, a big study. He ran a big study on this. And what he found is that actually masculinity correlated with much better mental health in men instead of worse mental health in men.Simone Collins: Yeah. So let's, let's get into this. Cause I thought it was interesting. And there's a really great. Overview, maybe Malcolm, you can link to it from PsyPost, which we've been reading [00:02:00] since God, like 2016. I love PsyPost so much. PsyPost. org. P S Y P O S T. They, they post summaries of a lot of psychology studies as they come out.They link to them, which is very helpful because so many articles, like we're talking New York Times, Wall Street Journal, never linked to the studies they reference it drives me nuts. Cause then you can never like what's the methodology like, and then often what they also do now that they've grown to become a bigger brand than they used to be, is they will interview the researchers that have just.published the study, which is just great. So this particular study was authored by John Berry. That's the guy that Malcolm was talking about. And it was, it was published in Perspectives in Male Psychology. Or sorry, he's the author of Perspectives in Male Psychology as an introduction.But so the study that he did that we're talking about here that I thought was really interesting and shared with Malcolm was one in which he surveyed over 2, 000 men in the [00:03:00] UK. And over 2000 men in Germany. So this is like, you know, specific set of people. And I think it's really important to like set that as a baseline.The site post summary states, a key part of the survey was the positive mindset index, a tool used to measure mental positivity. The scale consists of questions designed to assess the feelings of happiness, confidence, control, emotional stability, motivation, and optimism. The survey also included several questions specifically about masculinity designed to understand how men perceive its impact on their lives.These questions were grouped into categories that reflected whether men saw masculinity as having a negative or positive impact on them, or whether they considered it irrelevant in today's society. Now, what's interesting is the findings which I think reinforce a lot of what we're discussing with culture and with, with sexuality and with relationships men who reported greater satisfaction with their personal growth had significantly higher mental positivity.So this has nothing to do with masculinity, but that is interesting. I mean, it makes a lot of sense. This was the strongest predictor of mental [00:04:00] wellbeing in both countries. Contrary to stereotypes of declining happiness with age, the study found that older men reported higher levels of mental positivity.I also think this is

Malcolm and Simone interview Pastor Paul VanderKlay on why people are increasingly leaving faith traditions and how churches can adapt to strengthen communities. He sees Jordan Peterson as bringing meaning back for lost young men, but online spaces still lack the authentic bonds of real-life congregations. They discuss modeling values for children, the limitations of internet community, changes coming to old institutions, the importance of sacred spaces for honest dialogue, and more.Paul VanderKlay: [00:00:00] Traditions of almost every kind are being tremendously tested and most of them are, are, are found wanting.And this includes, now, every, all the Christians listening to this, I know a bunch of my people are going to find their way to your channel and listen to this. This includes the church, and what, so G. K. Chesterton talked about, I remember it was five or seven, but the five deaths of Christianity. He said basically Christianity has died five times, and I think that's true.And I think the church, as most of us have known it, which, again, generalizations are really tough, but many of us have known churches that are Fundamentally modernist institutions sort of created around modernist assumptions, including my own denomination, many of these [00:01:00] churches are going away and they are going away fast.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: All right. All right. So for any of our audience who does not know Paul Vander Klee, the man who is on the show here with us today you might be surprised to know that you're probably in the minority of our audience. Cause I just now was reviewing our most overlap channel subscribers.And you are one of the most overlapped and I watch your videos. Pretty regularly. I, I, like, I haven't watched all of them. You produce videos almost as frequently as we do, which may be why we, you're extremely prolific. Yeah. Yeah. But they're actually really, really solid if you want to get I, I think one, like, insider politics of competent Protestant theology these days.Oh, that's true. As, as well as what is, like, what do, like, competent Protestant theologists. think these days? How are they engaging? Because the truth is, is that if you are listening to, and this is something I always talk about, if you're listening to like the conservative [00:02:00] elite class, the vast majority of them are Catholic or Jewish in descent.And so, you know, finding really good Protestant theologians who, who talk competently is, is, is much rarer within the current media landscape. And so I want to start with one. talking about how you came to the media landscape, because to me, you are somebody who is really I'd say almost the, , the paragon of an individual who is adapting new. technology and new social structures to serve an older religious position, which was the position of the preacher. How are you doing that? And how are you thinking about that right now?Paul VanderKlay: That's a great question. I'm constantly thinking about it actually.So I, I pastor a small dine church in Sacramento, California. Most churches, the size 60 year life cycle and. I would always have [00:03:00] interests beyond just the local church, and so I was involved with denominational things and all of this stuff. I blogged for years, just, just sort of playing with it, and then Jordan Peterson arose, and I thought this is probably the most important thing for me to pay attention to in my pastoral career.Wow. And I looked around because, because, well, the reason was, I mean, you guys talk about this basically this monolithic urban culture. What, what, what this has done in churches is that people have sort of either strayed into new atheism or strayed into a light new, new ageism and everyone who's going down that road.And what I saw happening behind Jordan Peterson were people coming back down that those roads and you hardly ever saw that before and significant numbers were doing it, listening to Jordan Peterson. He was reopening the conversation in a way that I didn't [00:04:00] understand, and so I wanted to understand it and the way I understand things is by talking to people, but.People in my church weren't going to watch Jordan Peterson. They were all mostly older people. So then I looked to colleagues. Well, most of my colleagues weren't listening to Jordan Peterson and those who were, wouldn't admit it. So I knew I needed some new conversation partners. So I thought. I was reading, I was rereading.I was real reading, I'm using ourselves to death at the time. And I thought there's something about this medium YouTube. And I had played with it a little bit with a member of my church, the Freddie and Paul show, you can still find it on my channel, but so if you want to get a sense of what my church is like, watch the Freddie and Paul show.So, so I was seeing this and I thought I'll make a YouTube video. What can, what, what, what can it hurt? There are how many YouTube videos out there that have 10

Malcolm and Simone discuss shocking new statistics revealing fertility rates plummeting faster than expected across Latin America, with countries seeing 30-60% drops in under a decade. They analyze root cultural causes and link to contraception access. This mirrors dire global trends barely being reported on, often dismissed as a racist issue, though in reality massively threatening Hispanic and African cultures too.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Stunningly, except for Mexico, all of the countries listed in this graph have already dropped below this level. Uruguay, Costa Rica, Chile, Jamaica, and Cuba now have a total fertility rate of around 1. 3 children per woman. The so called quote unquote ultra low fertility threshold that has only been seen in a handful of European and East Asian countries.in a TED talk delivered last year, Argentine economist and demographer Rafael Rothman said that his country's fertility had declined more in the previous six years than in the previous six decades.As a result, he told a queue. In 2024, there will be roughly 30 percent fewer four year olds entering Argentinian preschools than there were in 2020, a 30 percent drop in four years. A recent paper titled The Great Decline, Wanda Sela and three other Uruguayan demographers write that in just seven [00:01:00] years, the total fertility rate in Uruguay dropped from 2 to 1. 27 children per woman. There is no precedent for a fall of this magnitude in such a short period. Warned you people! We have been warning you for years now! if this was an animal species, like, if you had an animal that was having every year and it was due to a recent and rapid decline, that would categorize the species as an endangered or critically endangered species. So we would categorize most cultural groups in Latin America is critically endangered right now if they were a species.And if we were environmentalists, we would be freaking the f**k out about what's happening. But, nope, not gonna do anything because it's, it's, it's, they, they don't really give a s**t about. Hispanic populations. They only care about them when they can use them as a wedge issue. And this is why I always say that the conservative movement needs to understand that the problems that Hispanic populations are facing are the problems that we are facing culturally.There are alliesWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: [00:02:00] Well, Simone, a couple days ago, it was brought to our attention again that we are again on the front page of Reddit by my brother actually this time. He goes, Oh, you guys made the front page again. And this time we made the front page with a rehashed post. It was just like a copy of an old post by one of those spammers.That what, we look like a couple of parsnips? Nearsighted.Simone Collins: Nearsighted parsnips.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, making fun of us and being angry at us for nothing. Like, they seem to think that we are white supremacists or something. Or that our movement is And it's, it's so frustrating for me. How little what the pronatalist movement is actually doing has penetrated mainstream thought.There aren't people like clapping back being like, you know that they have like 20 like anti racist videos on their channel. Like they go really hard on this and if you look at the areas that have the most tragedy in terms of fertility collapse. The vast majority of them are not white areas, [00:03:00] and in fact, there's some of the very areas that people like them would assume that we have some sort of like ideological beef with.Simone Collins: Yeah, yeah, considering. So what we're going to talk about is relevant. Because I just sent to Malcolm. Well, we were on a. Flight news about Latin America's fertility decline, accelerating, not just being bad, like we've already mentioned, but accelerating.Malcolm Collins: It's not just accelerating, but it's accelerating at a pace that's frankly baffling everyone except for us, because we could have told you, like anyone who is familiar with Latin American culture.Anyone who has a lot of Latin American friends and anyone who knows us knows that's one of our primary friends groups like our company. We are the only non Latin Americans who work at our company. So, we are very, very tight with Latin American culture. Many of our best friends, like the godfather, our first son is, is Peruvian, for example.So we. Know a lot about what's going on was [00:04:00] in those immigrant groups and was in that culture. And anyone who knew that culture would know that their fertility is about to absolutely crash. And yet theySimone Collins: made these assumptions about us because we code conservative and we are conservatives, but also, like, it seems that a lot of conservatives are freaking out about the border crisis. And you know, there's a, just assume that anyone who leans conservative is like, ah, people from Latin America are terrible. And that's ridiculous.Malcolm Collins: Well, these people just aren't very

Malcolm and Simone analyze the symbolism in Disney's "Turning Red," where a girl turns into a red panda when she feels sexual urges during puberty. They argue the movie sends toxic messages like embracing sexuality too young, selling sexualized photos of yourself, and lying to parents. It could even be seen as promoting OnlyFans or sex work to minors. They compare to positive coming-of-age stories that handle themes of adolescence better.Some key points:* Panda is clearly meant to symbolize emerging sexuality* Sells panda pics to afford concert tickets* Lies to parents under guise of "mathletes club"* Ultimately rejects family wisdom on sexuality* Poor messages for girls on deceit, self-objectification* Better coming-of-age films handle themes with more care* Did creators consider implications of plot points?Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] It is not vague that this movie is about her sexuality and the panda represents her sexuality. So a lot of people got that.And they, they ended, how controversial the movie was at that. If that's what the movie was about, I would think it was a wholesome, good message. . And in one of the core things in the movie is she is breaking from that because she is accepting her sexuality at the end of the movie . She decides to not seal away her panda. She thinks that she needs to embrace her panda and make it a part of her.Everyday life. And this is to represent the traditional Chinese culture's rejection of sexuality and her embracing of sexuality. The core conflict of the plot is she wants to go see this boy band with her friends.But, she cannot afford to see this boy band with herSimone Collins: friends.Malcolm Collins: , so her friends get together and they advertise her panda to her panda to all the other young kids in the [00:01:00] school and the young kids pay to interact with her pandaOnly came to win the game, can't,Malcolm Collins: but.It's not that she has no scruples at all, there is one boy who is a dick, and she doesn't like this boy, . And so they have this boy pay an exorbitant amount to have the Panda be the main attractor at a party that he is hosting. . So it's saying one. Use this new sexuality you have found to pay for your lifestyle, IG only fans or whatever these days. Yes! Yes! If somebody is a jerk Restrict their access,but if they are paying a ton, yeah. Ah, that's where you really need to go all out with the pandaWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. So we are going to do an interesting video today because I really liked our Barbie video. Anyone who hasn't seen our video of Barbie being the most based movie ever made? [00:02:00] I genuinely believe that. It is an incredible movie. An insanely based movie. Like the point that Ken learned specifically, like, and I think it was an intentionally based movie, that Ken specifically learned about the patriarchy from a high school bookstore.They could have made it anything. They could have made it a regular bookstore. They could have made it TV. They chose to make it like what a conservative conspiracy theorist would make it. Like, why did they do that? But watch that if you want to see that. We're going to now talk about another video because people have been like, Oh, you should talk about this one.You should talk about this one. I'm going to talk about the show Turning Red, that time where Disney accidentally made a movie promoting Epstein like behavior. I'm going to have to keep finding euphemisms for what we're talking about here.Simone Collins: And a movie that genuinely terrifies our sons when they don't They don't flinch at Starship Troopers, Jurassic Park.Malcolm Collins: They ran out of the room at Turning Red.Simone Collins: Yeah, we were watching it again last night and our son [00:03:00] Octavian was like, I can't, I can't watch! And he runs out of the room. Because you know what? Female puberty is terrifying. Genuinely.Malcolm Collins: Genuinely. Few things that are scarier. So before we go further, I need to make a confession, Turning Red, if you haven't seen it, if you watched a bunch of people being like, oh, this is a woke movie or whatever, you shouldn't watch it because woke ism, and I don't watch movies because of woke ism, it's woke as hell.But it is a greatSimone Collins: movie. And let's just, for those who don't have a watching it but maybe still want to watch this, the gist of it is it's about a girl who hits puberty and happens to turn into a giant raccoon. When she feels sexual urges,Malcolm Collins: basically. Well, a red panda, which is technically a raccoon.Okay, yeah, a red,Simone Collins: fine, a red panda. Yes, a red panda. IMalcolm Collins: love that you mentioned the actual species name, because a lot of people don't know that red pandas are actually a subspecies of raccoon, but anyway, continue. Yeah. It's not [00:04:00] a tanuki, by the way. It's a red panda. But anyway. Yes.Simone Collins: So yeah, tanukis are super different.Come on. So, basically when

Malcolm and Simone explain their system for New Year's resolutions using categories tied to biology (health/family), career (income streams), and mission (purpose/impact). They track past goals in a spreadsheet, highlight achievements, and set 1, 5, 10 year timelines. They share real examples like scheduling health scans, working on awareness campaigns, and Simone running for office. The key is choosing projects with upside potential where you can make an outsized impact over time.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] Well, we put them in a spreadsheet and we, at the end of the year, highlight in green, orange, or red, the parts of each goal that we've either achieved or kind of achieved or not at all achieved. So it's really helpful to go back in time and sort of see where you are.Shooting a little too high or going a little too easy on yourself. So we've, we'veMalcolm Collins: done very well in the biology category this year, and we've done very well in the mission category this year, last year,Simone Collins: last year, last year, and then we did abysmally in the career category,Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. It is wonderful to be here with you today. I am very excited. So a lot of people would be surprised. In the book, we said that we'd plan to have Future Day on New Year's Eve. Like, why haven't we done it? Or you see more Future Day stuff. It's because we actually decided to, this is the first year we're doing a full test run of this, you know, with all the decorations and [00:01:00] everything, and the kids being old enough to remember it, to push it back into later in January.Making a wholeSimone Collins: month thing. I mean, like Christmas. Basically, it's a whole month thing. You know, you get the decorations for a whole month or if not more, right? If this is our most important and favorite holiday, then it deserves some time.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So we wanted to give it a bit more time, but I think talking more about traditional new year's type things, traditional new year's resolutions and just sort of the way that we personally keep track of if we are where we want to be in life, because I think it's.And it is highly efficacious, and it's something that I was taught to do from a young age. And I think that you developed a very similar system completely in parallel to me. And it's played a large part in us being able to get to where we are in life.Simone Collins: Yeah, no, we've both been very systematic.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, we'll also go over our own New Year's resolutions this year, while checking in on where we were last year.[00:02:00]So, the key to doing this, the key to handling New Year's resolutions, is to divide them into categories. And these categories are tied to well, I could just go through the three big categories we have of resolutions, which helps us think, you know, in a one year time frame, a five year time frame in a 10 year time frame where we want to be with each of these issues.Okay, 1 is what we call biology. This category is tied to our biological success. So this is health, this is relationships, and this is children. So the biology category, if you are in high school, for example, is likely going to be learning to date. Learning to interact with other people in a way that's going to be useful to you when you are looking for a spouse.And, and some level of health, but, like, you really don't need to go [00:03:00] overboard with the health aspect of this when you are young, so long as you aren't, like, addicted to something.Simone Collins: I don't know. Like when I was young, obviously I was starving myself to the point of like, Oh, she's probably going to die.So like my early biological goals and my spreadsheet, which I can see, cause I've been keeping track of this in a spreadsheet we're like, you know, maintain this healthy weight range. Please don't die. That kind of thing. And so there's, you know, it could be like if you have, you know, are trying, like you're a wrestler and you're trying to get into certain like weight classes or, you know, you're trying to be able to lift a certain amount of weight.Those are all very common. And I think this is among the most like mainstream of goals to have biological goals. Like I want to weigh this amount. I want to be able to run a marathon. I want to be able to play with my kids without being in pain. That kind of thing.Malcolm Collins: And keep in mind, a key thing about your biological goals is every biological goal that you have should have some level of utility and not be a vanity goal.So, when it comes to something like weight ranges, this can be very useful [00:04:00] for partner attraction, and this can be very useful for Long term health, you know, being able to achieve other goals. This is less true when it comes to something like, I want to work out more or something like that. Right?Like there is a level of exercise.Simone Collins: That's not like super measurable, right? So it's not perfect

Malcolm and Simone explain why they intentionally court controversy to spread awareness of demographic collapse, even though it can be costly. Controversy acts as "human clickbait" to draw attention, then their genuine wholesomeness converts people to the cause. They share examples of how negativity actually validates ideas to conservative/moderate audiences. Though they lose friends and receive hate, demographic collapse is now mainstream. Using themselves as "meme fodder" pierces bubbles, like how Trump used media bias through controversy. Spreading ideas through hate is effective, but know the personal reputation costs. In the end, saving humanity is worth some family sacrifice.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Now, this issue, because it counters the mainstream narratives around what people should care about, is considered a right wing issue.That's, that's not, I think, necessarily because it's a right wing issue, it's because the left control all centers of power today, so if you are saying anything that challenges the dominant narrative within society, you are considered a far right activist within today's, informational ecosystem. So we're like, okay, we can use this to our advantage. In fact, negativity, the press shows us in a way that's us with conservative and moderate. Audiences, they see skepticism about reasonable causes as validation of those causes, realism, efficacy, and, and grassroots natureWould you like to know more?Simone Collins: You look like you're actually in some kind of equivalent of a man cave, just like sitting there in the darkness. And like, here I am with my candles over there and the, you know, windows and like, there you are. It looks likeMalcolm Collins: it's two different times [00:01:00] a day in our two areas. We're in differentSimone Collins: time zones.Malcolm Collins: But I do like my man caves. You know that. I love the dark.Simone Collins: Yeah, you love the darkness. And like defensible corners, you know? Like, Yes, yes. You gotta knowMalcolm Collins: defensibility is important to me in terms of being comfortable in a room. Yeah, even if we'reSimone Collins: like sitting down at a restaurant, you're gonna want the defensibleMalcolm Collins: seat.Well, you know, that's what so much of feng shui really is. It's just defensibility.Simone Collins: Hmm. AndMalcolm Collins: that's why it feels like it works for people because what they're really sensing is how defensible is the space I'm looking at. I mean, I think a lot of aesthetics fall into this category as well. That is a very interesting take.When people are like, I like this view and it's like, well, what type of views do you like? You know, it's like, well, I like a view where I can see a long way. And there's water, like streams present so it's like, oh, so what you like is a freshwater supply in a highly defensible area where you're on some sort of high ground, [00:02:00] right?And they're like, no, no, no, no, I also like other views, like, I love views of the ocean. It's like, oh, okay. So you love views of an area where you have you know, a lot of food and, and likely you know, so much of human aesthetics and human pre programming, it's just around defensibility and the things that would haveSimone Collins: caused Will I survive here?And Yeah. Yeah, that includes both, will I survive if someone tries to attack me, and also, are there natural resources here that will sustain me? And that's beautiful. Hooray!Malcolm Collins: But we want to talk about something else today, not about human evolution, which is one of our big things!Simone Collins: But instead, we will talk about one of the things that has been most controversial about our general strategy.With our non profit very, very controversial.Malcolm Collins: Which is being intentionally courting controversy. Yeah. Intentionally courting controversy. So why, why do we do this? Why do we intentionally court [00:03:00] controversy? Because a lot of people see this. We've been called, what it was, that Sony documentary on us. It was like, they're human memes or something?Simone Collins: Oh, yeah, like walkingMalcolm Collins: A lot of people just, just for a bit of a background, if you're watching this channel and you're looking at the subscriber count and you're like, you know, I feel like I see these people in the news a lot. Why isn't their subscriber count higher? It's because this channel was dormant when most of our media coverage happened.So obviously if you look at this channel, you'll see stuff from like 15 years ago, right? Simone used this a lot when she was younger. We had a period where we revived it for a bit, but it hadn't been used in like three or four years. Yeah. When we were, you know, whether it was on Piers Morgan or whether it was on Chris Williamson or whether it was, you know, had the front page piece on us and in the Telegraph or the front page piece on us in the National Post or that big viral insider piece or the elite couple breeding t

We analyze new stats showing China's births plummeting by 37% in a decade, despite government pleas for more kids. Women don't want "Chad" husbands offering no partnership while still expecting housework and caretaking. Male sexual strategies that incorporate porn personas rather than earning respect backfire in marriage.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Simone! We are here again with. More shocking stats on how quickly fertility rates are falling in some parts of the world. The latest ones that really got me, and honestly, whenever I look at the Chinese numbers, I'm always just flabbergasted at how bad things are.And I should point out here, just so people are under no illusions here, because there is this popular myth, Chinese fertility rates are falling because of the one child policy. This is a myth. Okay Chinese fertility rates are not, they are falling much faster now than under the one child policy.They are much lower now than they were under the one child policy. They did not fall because of the one child policy. They fell due to a few issues that we are going to be discussing that are actually very similar. Similar to some of the issues that Korea and Japan have with their fertility rates.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: And in a way are tied to being too conservative which is really interesting and goes [00:01:00] back to this Aryababu study that we've mentioned before, which shows that in Europe, the more conservative a country is on average, the lower their fertility rate. While the more conservative a population group was in a country is, the higher their fertility rate, which goes against what a lot of people will assume is, is, is the case.So this shocking statistic that I saw that really got to me and, was that over the past 10 years, so from 2022 back to 2012, , the number of babies born in China per year dropped. from 16 million all the way down to only 10 million over a 10 year period.That is a 37. 5 percent decline. That is stunning and shocking. LikeWow. Wow. But it gets more interesting than this. Like, it's not like China isn't trying to prevent [00:02:00] this decline right now and why this is all relevant is I actually think it's very relevant to the United States and it's very relevant to some of the reproductive strategies men have decided to reactively begin to attempt and I think due to the rise of feminism and an overcorrection for that.And I think That it is these strategies that we see mirrored sort of what happens to the populations that adopt them. We see that in what's going on in China right now, in what's going on in Korea right now. So, Simone, you had read an article. I'd love you to go into this. Yeah,Simone Collins: I mean, what got me thinking about this was I got a Google Alert, We have a demographic collapse Google Alert, of course for an article.On Business Insider India, so totally random, titled Chinese women are fed up with Xi Jinping's attempts to make them have more and more kids. And the article talks about how basically the CCP has had, like they've had, they've made [00:03:00] speeches. They've said, we need to create a new trend of family. And they're trying to create.Matchmaking events and getting, get more people to get married. And she said he wants the Chinese people to quote, actively cultivate a new culture of marriage and childbearing to strengthen guidance on young people's view on marriage, childbirth, and family. And then. That the article talks about it basically like Chinese women aren't having it.But Chinese women are pushing back. I can't afford to take care of anything else aside from my parents and work. Molly Chen told the wall street journal. So. There's just basically like women to a great extent are like, they're hearing what the government is saying. They're also like, well aware that their access to reproductive choices being removed.But they're just not. They're not going to comply. I think this is going to be another lying flat issue. And the, the article does note also that there has been a meaningful decline, not just in births, but in registered marriages. [00:04:00] So they fell from 13 million to 2013 to 6. 8 million in 2022,Malcolm Collins: 13 million to 6.8 million. How far apart were those two numbers?Simone Collins: 10 years? So yeah, 2013. 13 million. 2022, 6. 8 million. So, almost falling in half. Like cutting in half. Holy s**t.Malcolm Collins: And I was looking to see with all of China's efforts to try to get their fertility rate up again. I couldn't find this year's statistics because Well, here's the name of an article.China deletes leaked stats showing plunging birth rate for 2023. Cause like how, how bad they do in 2023. Apparently so bad that China is now trying to scrub the internet of how bad they're doing in 2023. I mean We have talked about some things that lead to this in China. Right. One of the things that we've talked about that leads to this in China is just a lack of hope.You know, like why

We analyze whether a crypto tied to real estate could become a widespread default currency. Benefits could include transparency and minimizing money extraction by institutions. Risks include incentivizing overdevelopment and mispricing assets. We explore impacts on society, investing prospects, and probability of mainstream adoption.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I hope that this talk has helped listeners who don't understand like what VCs are actually thinking or what's going on in the world of like people who are pricing assets or deploying capital how they think about things.And and how they think about the future because I think this has been a good like educate to give like a broader picture on this. And I think it might be something that I might do, you know, if it does well, or if people like it recurringly just sort of analyze ideas in sort of a critical way that can help the average person understand what's actually going on with all thisWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello!It is wonderful to be with you here today. We have a guest today who was actually a fan of the show Chris Lehman, who reached out. You know, a very typical profile of a lot of the fans when we meet them, which is smart entrepreneur, you know, Harvard grad, like, working on a cool project. And we were talking about the project he was working on and it got me thinking oh, sorry, before I go any further, I do, I do need to point out why is Simone not with us [00:01:00] today? She has pneumonia and she is pregnant which means she can't do all the normal medications you would do if you got pneumonia. And so she's just been laid out, you know, in and out of the hospital recently, but you know, fingers crossed she's fine.But I'm able to do this, this wonderful interview. So, so we were talking about his project is in the crypto space. And I was like, well, you know what I could do, what everybody does in the crypto space these days is there's all these shows that like shill projects in the crypto space, right? Like they're like, Oh, this is so cool.And everything like that. And I was like, you know what I think our audience would prefer, which is like a really. Sort of, critical dive into one, the project, and I'm going to look at it from a few angles. Um, you know, will it make the world a better place? Which I think is always something you're sort of thinking of when you're talking about Web3 technology.Two, is it a good immediate investment? Like if you had capital, like me as a former VC would I invest in it? And three, what is the probability of it achieving its long term [00:02:00] objective? And so that's what we're going to go over. So, maybe the audience is like this, maybe the audience won't, but I'd love you to start by talking a little bit.And I, I always want to promote, you know, when I have audience members who are working on stuff, I always want to do what I can to promote that stuff so long as I think it's, it's like broadly in line with, with what we're doing that the community is doing. So start by going over what your project is.Chris Lehman: Yeah, absolutely. And thanks for the kind words and hope someone feels better soon. Definitely wouldn't want the, the kids go kid gloves treatment here on the podcast. Uh, um, but yeah, so, so I guess to start briefly before I go into the, I guess, full pitch and envision groma, which is my current project is a real estate and fintech company here in boston, about three years old and has the long term goal of launching a real estate backed cryptocurrency will go into significant detail.I expect about. Why that's actually a good thing. Or you know, people can decide on on the merits of that. But you know, I think fundamentally, the [00:03:00] project is motivated by the idea that society works best when financial gains are coupled with actual economic productivity. And in a lot of ways today, society is really not geared that way in ways that cause people to behave in ways that while they individually optimal are societally suboptimal.And so we think that by fixing two of the biggest institutions in society today, money and housing. You, you can actually fix a lot of those incentive misalignments. And so the long term goal talking, you know, decade plus out is actually having a fully operational scaled real estate backed cryptocurrency, but there are a lot of.intermediate steps that we're working on today to actually scale up and scaffold sustainably to get there. Yeah. SoMalcolm Collins: I want to hear your hypothesis on the three core areas that I was thinking of as an investment. I guess we'll start with short term prospects as an investment. And keep in mind, like this is, we're not trying to get people to like give money to a crypto project or something like this is only [00:04:00] accredited investors.It's like at the VC stage now. So this is all hypothetical from the perspective of our audience, but I think it will help our audience who haven't experienced what

We discuss Malcolm's theory that men have two overlapping sexual strategies evolutionarily encoded - a "raider" sexuality activated by porn/hookups and a "homesteader" one for long-term partners. By better understanding this bifurcation, men can avoid incorporating unhealthy Raider aspects as their identity. Roleplaying with a wife may satisfy the Raider side but risks altering her pair bonding.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] there are two major sexual events or strategies that a male can undertake. They can overlap and both be successful within the same individual. That means is that there was likely a push for both strategies to develop within men simultaneously. Yeah. And this leads to my hypothesis that the average man has a Raider sexuality and a homesteader sexuality. And, and so the things that turn them on most when they do with their long term partner may be actually entirely divorced from the things that turn them on most when.What would activate our Raider sexuality most within the modern world would be pornography. These are women that you have no emotional connection to, you see as entirely disposable. This can cause a lot of problems if a man, when he is young when he's learning what his sexuality is He begins to think that his sexuality is only [00:01:00] comprised of the type of pornography that he's consuming.If you can genuinely convince a woman's body that she's sleeping with a bunch of different people through this sort of role play, you might be actually triggering the same biological change that happens with her actually sleeping with a lot of people.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: requires some major mental caliber, which only, only menMalcolm Collins: have. Savona's pointing out that some of our audience doesn't like when we're on the wrong side. ISimone Collins: see the comments. I hear you people. And I made sure that weMalcolm Collins: This is, this is the problem with attracting a disproportionately autistic audience.Is they get annoyed when we're on the wrong side. Well, youSimone Collins: know what? ButMalcolm Collins: I want to talk about a concept that we have developed since writing The Pragmatist Guide to Sexuality. So all of our theories of human sexuality, this is actually not in the book and we haven't done a test on this yet. When I am done with important projects I'm working on now, I may one day run a test on it or when we have Ayla next on, because we're [00:02:00] booking that now I may try to compel her to include this in one of her future studies.But it is a concept that I think is really worth discussing on the channel in detail in sort of a dedicated episode as the what do we call it? The dual sexual strategy hypothesis. Okay, yeah, that's a good word for it. Which is to say that, Humans can have multiple sexual strategies pre programmed into them that exist alongside each other.So, one iteration of this that we do argue for in the Pragmatist Guide to Sexuality. It's how this works in women. So in women, we argue that when a woman goes out there and sleeps with a ton of people, her body undergoes something called a polymorphic change. So polymorphic changes happen in animals.The quintessential example of this is the grasshopper changing into a locust. If you, so in nature, this happens when it's When it gets over a certain population density but it can be simulated in a lab [00:03:00] by rubbing its hind leg with a Q tip and it leads to a behavioral change. It starts this swarming behavior.It also changes its color, shape, and size. So, pretty big change. But in primates, we see this in baboons, depending on like the resources the baboons have versus the troop size. They will change their social structure. So, I think it's like in, in resource dense areas it, it, it, versus resource scarce areas, they switch between larger social groups that are matriarchal versus large, smaller social groups that are patriarchal or some inverse of that.But it's a pretty significant change in how they structure themselves. Well, in humans human females specifically, what we argue in the book, and I believe Pretty strongly is that the more a human woman sleeps around the lower, like there were some studies done on this, the lower amounts of oxytocin she will produce with every first time new sexual partner, meaning that she is less likely.To have an automatic bond to that sexual partner which [00:04:00] is very useful in a monogamous society meaning that they basically automatically fall in love with the first person they have sex with to, to some small extent, and then to a smaller, you know, the second person, third person, but once they're on like person five, this effect no longer happens at all.And it's going to have a lot of problems in the dating market when women expect men that they are sleeping with, like on guy 10, to ever be able to recapture the spark they had with their first few p Romantic partners, which is often just impossible with women, not always. I m

We explain the strategic reason we celebrate Jewish holidays and are exposing our kids to Judaism. It's so they have a productive, moral backup culture if they reject our unusual views, not the urban monoculture. We believe multiple conservative religions like Judaism and Mormonism have validity from our "Tesseract God" perspective. Other options lack community today but we aim to build our own.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] if we want to give our kids the best shot in life it, you know, you want to look at.Yeah. Religious traditions that have favorable outcomes.it's doing something quite cruel to a kid to be putting them and raising them in a new cultural group that you have created yourself and raise them feeling like you won't appreciate them if they do anything other than this really insane, weird thing you set up for them.Malcolm Collins: And a lot of people, when we present our cultural group, they're like, why don't you just go to Our group, right? Like, this is what we constantly hear. They're like, our group is traditional, our group has done this a long time. And the answer is likely, and I don't mean to say this harshly, but it's probably because your group is failing.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today, we are going to talk about a fairly interesting and nuanced topic. Yeah. Which is this year, one of the things we did is we celebrated Hanukkah as a family for the first time. Yeah. And a lot of people are really [00:01:00] surprised by the fact that we raise our kids with the option to be Jewish.And they're like, what, why would you do that? We're like, why would you think you'd be accepted? Like, this is a weird thing to do. Especially given all of your religious beliefs. So this requires much enumeration on our part. At the end of this video, I'll play the little, you know, menorah lighting with the kids and everything.They were really into it this year. Yeah, I'mSimone Collins: sure we did it extremely wrong, but I will say that our oldest son, Octavian, got super into it. And we don't know how, like we let them watch. Stuff on their iPads for like a little bit every night. Well, not an iPad. It's actually really cheap Android devices, but they don't knowMalcolm Collins: the difference.We call them iPads. They don't know the difference.Simone Collins: Well, no, Torsten calls them his hot puss. Thank you very much. Hot puss.Malcolm Collins: OhSimone Collins: gosh. They're under a hundred dollars. Somehow, and we don't know how our son Octavian like found a bunch of, and he's, Four years old videos on YouTube about Hanukkah for kids.And [00:02:00] he just was like watching them on repeat. And then each night he was like, Oh, like let's, let's do it. Let's learn. Let's light the menorah. And then like, after it was over. There were like at least three nights of great disappointment when there were no more candles to light.Malcolm Collins: We didn't even do presents or anything.We just did the readings. No, yeah. No, yeah. He'd always say after a reading, he'd go, Mom, what does thatSimone Collins: even mean? What does that even mean? Every time I would finish, I would finish part of like the recital. Like both the kids would be like, yeah. Like after each, you know, like. You know, so, you know, the Lord encourages us to like light the menorah and the Lord performed these miracles and they're like, yeah, but they have no idea, no idea what it actually meant.But anyway, so like they were actuallyMalcolm Collins: really into it. Why are we doing this? Right. Like, like one is. So there's there's sort of two large strategic reasons for doing this. We believe really heavily that one of the big problems with a lot of conservative [00:03:00] tradition families today is that they raise their kids believing.That the, the alternative to following the culture that they are outlining for the kids is the urban monoculture. The only and default alternative. Whereas we are trying to raise our kids with a choice between two conservative extremes. where they feel that the alternative in the way that they are raised to be sort of intergenerational in the way they think about things is going to be the Jewish community.So one is why do we think we'd be accepted by that community in terms of how we do this? Well, the answer is actually pretty Interesting and unique to us, and I've mentioned this on other things, is that we found out, I, well, maybe a bit before we first met each other, but I certainly didn't know it until after we were dating, is that Simone is matrilineally Jewish, and within conservative Jewish communities, that makes her And our [00:04:00] kids, so I would say technically Jewish, whereas to them it's just fully Jewish.Simone Collins: Yeah, whenever we say to like at least some Jewish people that like, oh yeah, we're technically Jewish, they're like, what do you mean? And then we're like, well, yeah, our kids are matrilineally Jewish. And they're like, no, no, no. So the

We discuss the differing experiences of men and women as they age, using the analogy of youth being a fresh caught tuna that must get "sold" before it rots. Women are anxious to preserve their youth yet often end up just showing it off. Men don't face the same ticking clock. We must fight this by venerating motherhood, not telling women to "feel good" about decay.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] if you didn't achieve, like I did achieve many of the things I was sort of. program to achieve at different parts of my life, right? But like, suppose you didn't get to sleep around a lot when you were younger. Right. If you then try to do that when you are middle aged or an old person. Which aSimone Collins: lot of people try to do.Malcolm Collins: You will not get the validation or the happiness or the satisfaction you would have gotten. It is really important to understand declaring bankruptcy on stages of your life and moving to the next stage of your life. It is like thatSimone Collins: declaring bankruptcy on certain life stages. It just wasn't going to happen.Malcolm Collins: And then you can find new ways to optimize. There are new ways to optimize and still live a life of value. If you realize that you're middle aged or you're old and you never had kids and you never had a family, there are new ways you can Fill the role of an older mentor in your community and stuff like that.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Oh God. Yeah. When like, everyone was like, you can see every single pore that I have. Everything's horrible. When I [00:01:00] realized what we can do to fix my eyes is I just need to buy those like Naruto contact lenses or just like cinematic contact lenses, like just the just total black, you know, they're just completely black So for anybody wondering what she was talking about there my wife is wearing sunglasses right now because what's that thing that happened? You had like a bud Bessel burst in your eye. Not becauseSimone Collins: I look gnarly and disgusting. I mean more gnarly andMalcolm Collins: disgusting than normal. I think you look beautiful, but this brings us to our topic today.My wife has been Recently, you know, I was talking to her and she's like, I really do not like that. I feel like I'm beginning to look middle aged, you know, I am just my body. Yeah. And I was, it really sort of shocked me that this is still something that would be so concerning to her. The analogy I posted to Facebook, cause it got.a bunch of angry comments, as people can guess. And I think that they're really indicative of where we are as a [00:02:00] society. So what I said is, My wife has been getting worried about beginning to look middle aged.A woman pregnant with her fourth kid complaining about how her body looks to a devoted husband is like a fisherman with a pile of fish on the dock complaining about not having any worms. And of course people were like, and you know, some of my trans friends were like, Oh my gosh, you know, it really does matter that you're okay with your body.And here I am like, no. No, it doesn't matter that you're okay with your body. F**k your body. Your body is a tool that is meant to be used. And, and if you use it well, this is a really interesting thing. And I think it's an analogy I will use for my daughters for their bodies, right? The terrible,Young women in our society, it's like we as parents are giving them this really nice fish we caught like a tuna or something like that, we're like, go to the [00:03:00] market and get the best price you can for this fish.And you know, some women just come back with cum all over their tuna and then nobody wants to buy it. You know, nobody, nobody wants a tuna that, that people have had an orgy on, but that's not the only way you can I feel like the metaphorSimone Collins: is falling apart if that's what people areMalcolm Collins: That's not the core way or the only way you can f**k up this little routine.Okay? Okay. You go to the market and a lot of girls are coming back to their parents with a rotting tuna and saying, nobody wanted to give me a price that I thought it was worth, but look, I still got my tuna. The problem is, is that the tuna rots if you don't sell it. It is increasing in value with every second you haven't sold it.And this is the tragedy. Like, men go out there and they're all like, men have it so hard in our society. And I'm not gonna lie about all the unfairnesses of being a man. But [00:04:00] you're not dealing with this same ticking clock that women are dealing with.Simone Collins: Yeah, and it's not, it's not just appearance. It's, it's biology too.Like if one does want to have children. So even if one is totally like, yeah, appearance should be nothing. There's still this other functional limiting factor, which sucks.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. And it creates this, this environment where we tell girls protect the tuna, protect the tuna, protect the tuna to the point where they forget the point.Was that the

We discuss what defines the American spirit - hardship and sacrifice in pursuit of a better future. All major immigrant groups underwent trauma and trials to come here yet built economic dynamism. We must preserve that by not making immigration too easy yet welcoming driven, productive people. Assimilation erases cultures so we remain pro-immigrant but anti-assimilation.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] You know, you look at Silicon Valley, right? I think it's the majority or at least a huge chunk of the, you know, unicornfounders are first generation or second generation immigrants. That is what creates the economic dynamism of our country, because as we get further and further from this period of trial, and it is that period of trial that makes us truly Americans, we become less American, we become more indolent, we become more pathetic, right?And we, we can undergo this trial again, but we need to commit to it I mean, keep in mind every majority Catholic immigrant population that has ever come to America has come with gangs, the Irish, the mob, the Italians, the mafia, you know, the Hispanics, you get the art 15 or whatever it's called.Yeah. Okay. But this country is better for our Italian and and Irish immigrant populationYou know, sometimes, , I'll be talking to another Republican and they'll be like, . I don't like Muslim culture. And I'm like, do you like Trump? It's like, okay, well then you definitely like Persian [00:01:00] cultureMalcolm Collins: If a first generation legal immigrant is ever going on welfare, they should be immediately expelled from the country. Well, I mean, weSimone Collins: hold similar stances for anyone who's a drain on the nation.would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Immigration, man.Malcolm Collins: Immigration. Yeah. I, I think that the conservative movement and the way that they relate to immigration has kind of lost the plot of what it means to be an American. Some say with the progressive movement, they've lost the plot as well. Like most movements absolutely have, have lost the plot.But I think that if you look at the conservative base, they haven't, when I talk about the conservative movement, I'm talking about these elites who don't understand what the base actually wants. You know, you look at Oliver Anthony, the guy who wrote. , Richmond, north of Richmond. Great song, by the way, if you haven't checked it out.And he says, America's greatest strengths is their diversity and the people who are telling you otherwise are trying to manipulate you. He's telling the truth. You know, when we point out in our video on one of the greatest lies. Ever told to the American public that there is a racist, conservative base.There are more racist than the Democrats. It's just a lie. Like you look at five 38 polling and [00:02:00] up until Obama was elected, more white Democrats wouldn't vote for black president than white Republicans. The situation is actually elucidated as being even worse than this in a recent set of studies where it showed that the more Democrats you had in a region, the worse both black and Hispanic populations did when contrasted with the local white populations. So, having Republicans, even modern Republicans, As your politicians in a region or having a lot of the people who you are interacting with be republicans in a region, you are going to do disproportionately well off when contrasted with the average population if you are black and hispanic, even today.Malcolm Collins: But the Republican elites have gained their idea about what Americans think from the progressive stereotypes of what their base thinks, because they don't actually have a connection to their base because most of their friends are progressives and they're just acting out some idiotic.role.I also want to take a moment here to address some of our fans who watch [00:03:00] this and will sometimes comment things like, why are you guys so against ethnocentrism? Because I can understand to somebody that it might not seem like such a bad thing to care about your ethnic group over other ethnic groups.And this is a bit like somebody not understanding from when they're from like a different cultural group. And I'm like, , it's a bad thing to promote your family members to government positions even if they don't deserve those positions. And they're like, what? No! , nepotism is intrinsically ethical.I'm just helping family. Helping family is always right. And it's like, well, it's not always right when it hurts society at large. And this is the same thing with pretty much all forms of ethnocentrism. It's showing a short term preference for people who are similar to you genetically. over a long term preference for the good of society and the good of our species.Because if you look, If you're thinking 100, 000 years, a million years out.are black people, white people, Hispanic people going to exist? No, obviously not. Therefore, any sort of preference for these groups, especially if you're specifical

We discuss the disturbing trend of people being taught to resent and blame their parents. This toxic attitude promoted in media and psychology isolates kids from families that sacrifice everything for them. Malcolm reads excerpts praising parents from his ancestor's book showing the stark contrast - people back then were grateful despite immense hardship. We must fight cultural forces manipulating younger generations and regain the wisdom to properly judge good parenting.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] So I'll, I'll read a little excerpt he wrote here at the end of this book he wrote about his parents life and his life. The little story I have told about my parents and their way of life and their children seems to me as rather poorly told.For as good a basis as I had for writing the story, I do not suppose that any man is prouder of his ancestors and all of their descendants than I. If I had been giving an order to someone to supply me with parentage and with brothers and sisters, I would have ordered the very same parents I had, and all the brothers and sisters I had. in order to get this education, he would take these odd jobs, like digging irrigation ditches for people.Or doing fences for people and then he take this money and he would use it to pay for like first grade, right? And he would do every he would pay for it like 23 months at a time. Maybe even a few weeks at a time. Wherever he would get any sort of a cash windfall.Which is very different, you know, when you think about how hard these people's lives were and how much they sacrificed, you know, how much gratitude they had for their [00:01:00] lives. Why is it these people today who live these indolent lives where the state gives them education, where the state gives them everything, you know, where they're not, yeah, what, why, why do they feel this way?You know, why do they feel this level of hatred and entitlement? And I think A key answer here is they're taught toWould you like to know more?Simone Collins: First, I want to tell a little story about you as a parent. So, , one, you've been like totally stepping up over the past eight days cause I have really bad pneumonia, fever, chills, pain. Like this is the worst. I'm finally on medication for it. But you've been really stepping it up with the kids, but then I just discovered like also what you deal with, with like routine kids stuff that we have this, this like routine at night where I, I take our infant Titan or I guess she's like a.Twaddle her now. And I take care of her. I give her a bath. I like handle her. But you take the boys after we give them their bath and after dinner [00:02:00] and they go up to your bedroom and hang out with you and like they watch the little iPads and the educational videos you've queued up for them and you watch.something or play a game. What are you playing now? You really like thatMalcolm Collins: Warhammer game? Oh, Rogue Trader. It's fantastic. I like it more than Baldur's Gate, to be honest. It is, it is fantastic. It's a Warhammer fantasy game and I'm obviously love the universe.Simone Collins: Yeah. So, so you, you do that. And I just assumed like most of the times when I peek in the boys are sitting there, you know, well, always Octavian is under the covers hidden somewhere.The little kid reading a book with a flashlight at night, Torsten is sitting there, like, on top of the bed. Totally normal. Everyone's kind of doing their thing. But I can kind of now, like, I take a shower after I Get Titan in order and I can see you from the shower if I leave the bathroom door open and I was watching as our son, Torsten, repeatedly crawl up Malcolm's back and then just began pulling on his hair just until he was [00:03:00] like, Maybe like move his shoulders a little bit.Malcolm would, and then, you know, our kid tour scene would go tumbling off and immediately start climbingMalcolm Collins: with hisSimone Collins: tablet. Yeah. Like whacking you, pulling your hair. And I'm just like, and there you are just patiently. Playing your game. LikeMalcolm Collins: this goes to our parenting philosophy or a lot of people would be like, why aren't you, you know, why isn't your son better behaved?And I was like, because we believe not in breaking a child's will, but in stoking their will, the most valuable thing a child has their will. And insofar as they're just goofing around and being boys, like we don't care. And, and, and with tablets actually, and we'll do a longer episode on this. Cause I think this is a really interesting point is people know that generally.Studies show that screen time is not good for kids and they're like, why would you give your kids any screen time? Right? What they also haven't done is look at the effect size of these studies. Yes, while it is generally agreed across studies that screen time is not good for kids, the effect size, like when people talk about like what's going on with general, it's typically below 5%.It's like 3 to 5 percent on m

We discuss a shocking New York Times article advocating for breeding only short people to help the environment. This blatant eugenics promotion reveals the authoritarian thinking and moral blindspots on the left. We contrast it to polygenic selection which supports family choice, not society-wide suppression of "undesirable" genes. We also cover recent studies confirming left wing authoritarianism and the left's cultural genocide of minorities through forced assimilation.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Like, if you take two steps back from all this, it's like, I feel like that meme where they're like, you know,how's it going now?You know, and they're like, it's like New York times promoting eugenics to help the environment. Ooh, that bad, huh?Yikes guys. Yeah, you, you are. Deep in the spiral nowWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Yeah, what did I do? Well, I thought that recorded. I clicked the camera because I could camera for recording. You know, we've only done this a hundreds of times now. And of course I turn off my camera anyway, whatever I did to be here with you because I have seen this trend in media recently that just flabbergasted.So. For context here, Simone and I have gone through, you know, the, the rounds in progressive media over and over and over again, they hate that we do polygenic selection on our kids because, oh, my God, we believe that humans have genes and certain traits are [00:01:00] heritable and that families should have access to the reproductive choices to have kids the way that their culture says it's the.the ethical way to have kids and in a way that nudges those genes in directions that their family values on an individual basis. Right. And as well,Simone Collins: they unceasingly accuse us of eugenics, even though by the definition of eugenics that anyone could agree upon, like if you look at Wikipedia's definition of eugenics, we are very much against eugenics because one, we don't believe that there are universally good or bad traits.And two, we are very much against trying to fight for. Promulgation or suppression of those universally good or bad traits in on a society level. Right? SoMalcolm Collins: like to point it out, like what we think is every culture and every family should have the right to choose what traits they think are best for their family to optimize around.Right? And then as a society. Like, like, the world tests us and determines which families and which groups chose correctly. [00:02:00] Yeah, butSimone Collins: there are different societal, environmental, economic, etc. contextsMalcolm Collins: that make different traits useful. Yeah, and one of the interesting things that has been a theme to me recently is as soon as the left, like, accepts something that we've been trying to get them to accept forever, as like, don't immediately, like, run away screaming like you touched a hot stove when you mention something like humans have genes, their first intuition is always to take it to the most insane and evil place humanly imaginable.And so the left has finally admitted That some traits in humans may have a genetic component and the very first thing they want to do is eugenics, like, like, bad eugenics, like evil state sanctioned, like, yeah,Simone Collins: like you should only reproduce with these people.Malcolm Collins: Eugenics. Yeah. Yeah. You should only reproduce with these.people because these are the good people and other people are the bad people. Like, why can't the left just not be evil for five seconds? But anyway, and I'm not talking about fringe left here. Okay. So there was an article talking [00:03:00] about New York times and the New York times now that they have realized the humans have genes.They're like, well, short people are better for the environment. Therefore you should only breed with short people. And. Hold on, so this isn't just like the New York Times. So the article in New York Times that goes over this is there has never been a better time to be short, but there have been other articles like this.There was 1 in popular mechanics. You should make with short people to fight.Climate change expert says there was you know. Yeah, there's been a few articles that have sort of gone over this. AndSimone Collins: by the way, nothing against short people, first off, I want to say that. Like, there are definitely, there are longevity benefits to being short.There are health benefits to being short. And there are environmental benefits to being short. We're not saying, it's the fact that they're taking a eugenic stance on this that we have a problem with. In fact, we shared this article on Twitter and one of our followers pointed out quite cleverly and this is a very dangerous question to ask.Which is wait, but like, [00:04:00] what's the difference between like a short person and like a thin person in terms of their environmental impact? Oh, I know. It's like,Malcolm Collins: don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't watch ou

We interview leaders of the Mormon Transhumanist movement, an association of Mormons interested in using technology to improve life. They explain core Mormon beliefs like humans can become gods, the purpose of existence is to bring about immortality/eternal life, and there are multiple heavens you go to based on your desires. We find many similarities with our ideologies and possibilities for cooperation to build intergenerational religious communities.Lincoln: [00:00:00] The second president of the Mormon Transhumanist Association has what?Eight children.Malcolm Collins: Do you know if there's any second generation transhumanist Mormons yet, i. e. kids where this belief system has been successfully passed between generations?Lincoln: All of my children are Mormon transhumanists. They're all adults.Malcolm Collins: Oh, wow. So it's working. Okay, then the next thing I really want to talk to you about, cause I think that this is the most interesting thing about it, is the large following in Africa.Carl Youngblood: Yeah, so that's, that's pretty recent. I was approached earlier this year by a guy in Senegal whose name is Kwasi Ngesen. And he was like, I really love what you guys are talking about. He went to our website and read some things and was really excited about it. And he said, I'd like to spread it to Africa.And I guess he's a pretty good community builder. So, suddenly we have like, Almost 30 different groups that he has opened up in various African countries and is currently [00:01:00] Sharing some ideas with themWould you like to know more?Carl Youngblood: HelloMalcolm Collins: everyone! We have a very special guest here today that I am really excited and could not be more on topic for our podcast. Or I think of more interest to a lot of our listeners who are interested in the more religious stuff. But we have with us today the Co founders of the transhumanist Mormon branch of Mormonism, or I'd say movement.I don't like to say movement because I think it's a bit more than that. And I'd really love you guys to introduce yourself. And I'd love to start just by talking about what it is as a concept. And how you see it as contiguous with the traditional Mormon tradition.Carl Youngblood: Awesome. I guess I'll start.My name is Carl Youngblood. I'm the current president of the Mormon Transhumanist Association. And I'm one of the co founders of the association. But, and Lincoln is as well, but there are several others, so I feel I need to give credit [00:02:00] to The whole group. There's, I think, what was it, Lincoln? Like 14 people or so who co founded the association.And I do want to clarify that several of us are active Latter day Saints. We consider ourselves to be kind of in the mainstream church, as well. Although it's not required to be a member of The LDS church to be a member of the association. So we have Several active members. We have some who are not active in the church That's a term we use for like whether you are a practicing member.I should say Sometimes we use this lingo inside Mormonism. That is a little bit confusing. So So yeah, there are practicing Latter day Saints in our, in our midst in the association. There are others who are not practicing and others who've never even been Latter day Saints, but just found a lot of interesting things to talk about in the group and, and kind of gravitated towards us for [00:03:00] various reasons.And I'll let Lincoln talk a little bit more about it as well. Go ahead Lincoln.Lincoln: Sure. Thanks, Carl. Yeah, my name's Lincoln Cannon. Like Carl said, I'm one of the co founders of the association, and I served as the association's president for 10 years from its inception until 2016. As Carl pointed out, the, you know, there isn't any necessary strong distinction between a Mormon transhumanist and a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, I agree. I've been mentioning that I've been figuring that out as I've been talking to more Mormons, where a lot of the beliefs that I see are very transhumanist sounding to me, so it seems like a very natural evolution. If it is such a natural evolution, why make the distinction at all?Lincoln: Yeah, so, and a valuable part of that is that by making some things explicit.You emphasize them, you bring them to mind, and you ensure their continuing maybe [00:04:00] virility, or even viability within the culture. And that's one of the things that we cared a lot about, is that we wanted to call attention to aspects genuine aspects of Mormon culture and theology. That we felt were very important, are very important, and that merit more attention than perhaps the average Mormon gives them.And so, you know, by, by, by organizing a movement around this, we call attention to those things, we emphasize those things, as a consequence, we cultivate those things within the culture.Malcolm Collins: So can you elaborate or highlight some of the things that you guys would be focusing mor

Where to Live Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tq9rY1TCs49XHckWtzOowYz_xHXFnRpOZq8r0lE5JSQ Should you have more kids? We discuss the REAL costs of additional children and why it gets dramatically cheaper after the first few. We also cover why private school, travel, restaurants, etc. are overrated for kids. Having a big family forces you to live more reasonably!Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] The incremental cost of each additional kid.Cause I think people might be really surprised. There was a study done on this and it shows, I think it's like after four, every additional kid costs on average about a thousand dollars a year. So not a lot.In an article called The Marginal Cost of Children in the New York Times Archive. . By the time you get to kid three, you have fallen from a cost of. around 15, 000 a year for one kid to, well under 3, 000 a year.And so you can see how you get down to like 1, 000 extra a year, or 800 extra a year when you get like four, kid number five, the costs just drop really dramatically.Malcolm Collins: And, and the waste that you have when you're having a few kids, keep in mind, you still need to buy all the s**t, you know, whether or not you're having a ton of kids or a few kids.So, you know, the next time you have a kid, it's no baby toys, it's, it's no, you know, no, no, no toddler toys.Simone Collins: No new swings, or highchairs, or bibs, or plates, [00:01:00]Malcolm Collins: or bottles, or sippers, or Every time we buy something for one of our kids, that's being used by like a huge chain of kids after themWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Anyway. Hello, Simone! It is wonderful to talk to you today! So, we did this video on dinks, right? And we're like, dinks are actually good, right? Because They are we don't want these people having kids, they're not going to be good parents, probably not good for the gene pool so, let's march them into their sweet good night all by themselves.Now, this But we got someSimone Collins: interesting, we got some interesting comments on that video, and, and one I wanted to do a conversation about.Malcolm Collins: Well, and I see this with other people, right? Like, the core point we made in the Dink video, or one of the points that we made, Is that you know, while we pity dinks, the people we pity more than dinks is people with only one or two kids, because it's all of the cost of kids and none of the real benefits of kids.Well, you get some, I mean, you get like the, the shallow masturbatory feeling of I have a kid that the dinks don't get and like, you get to experience them and spend time with them, which is nice, but you don't [00:02:00] get like the genetic or cultural effects, right? You know, you're not really. contributing to a solution in a big way.And, and it's actually harder. We argue like, like, and for us, it's very obviously harder. It is, it is much harder to have fewer kids than more kids.Simone Collins: Totally. And we're stressful andMalcolm Collins: way more stressful. And we need to talk about why this is the case. And in many ways, you know, we immediately saw it in the question that they're asking us about this.It's like, well, I have two kids, but like, I don't know how I'm going to afford.Simone Collins: I'll read the comments. There were, there were two comments. It sort of inspired this. So one person said, I have two kids, but I think I need to make more money before I go for number three. My mother in law is already very against her daughter having another.So I was waiting to my economic situation changed to go for, for three. But should I, I know I want three because that's above replacement level. But what are the economics of kid numbers at three, four, five and crazy numbers like 10 and then someone else also answered, I want. More of this conversation to currently have to, but would love for, but don't want to reduce the quality of life for the children.I [00:03:00] have IE vacations, private school, et cetera. It's just a very interesting conversation. That's theMalcolm Collins: answer there. And this is, this is why higher numbers of kids become much easier because when you get to the higher number of kids. You realize that a lot of these things that you thought was necessary for your kids quality of life was really more about your own personal vanity than the kids actual Or societalSimone Collins: decoupling.Yeah, I think this understanding that private school, for example, is really good for your kids or necessary for your kids, or that, like, vacations where you fly somewhere are good for your kids or necessary for your kids. Like, I remember this, like, your Like you had relatives who were making this huge deal about flying their sons to Italy and how they were going to expose them to so much culture.And this was going to be so formative for them. And they were all young teens at that age. They were like, yeah, you know, they're old enough to really appreciate it culturally. And they went and

We explain the rising tensions between pronatalists and antinatalists as an ideological war emerges. While some antinatalists logically argue for non-consensual human extinction, we remain committed to pluralism. However, their totalitarian views are concerning as they gain institutional power. Though depressed and self-loathing now, their numbers grow quickly. We must peacefully opt out to avoid potential violence.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] We need to really keep in mind that there is a growing movement out there that wants to end all human life.Khrushchev said he would bury youMalcolm Collins: anyway, children too will be fine.It would be such an ignorant thing to do If the RussiansMalcolm Collins: The problem is that these people don't have children and know they don't love them. Believe me when I say toMalcolm Collins: and they really do want to kill you all and they could end up in nuclear silos.They could end up in positions of power and we need to keep in mind just how dangerous the forces arrayed against us really are you know, while we try to be as pluralistic as possible, we need to understand that they want to remove consent from everyone, everyone.if you could end suffering tomorrow, yeah, probably anything is justifiable. Inflicting just about anything is probably justifiable, imposing just about anything is probably [00:01:00] justifiableMalcolm Collins: They are the, I think, the truest and purest form of evil in the world today. And it feels really good that there are enemies because I know I'm on the right side. It's like you get to a holocaust camp and you're like, Oh, these guys are clearly the f*****g bad guys. You get to an epilous subreddit, you're like, Oh, wow!You could not more clearly signal that you're evil. But they are growing and they're growing faster than us.Simone Collins: Yeah, yep, gird your loins, ladies and gentlemen,Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: So Malcolm, I'm not really sure when this is going to go live, but we are very rapidly approaching the end of the year 2023. This has been a wild year for us through the generosity of the survival and flourishing fund a significant amount for pronatalist advocacy work. Which got us really tapped into the community to the global landscape.We've spoken with journalists across the world, Germany, France,Malcolm Collins: politicians, politicians, leaders.Simone Collins: Yeah. Just individuals. It's been wild. And I, I came in with [00:02:00] a very different perception of the forces arrayed against pronatalism that I have now at the end of the year, I came in thinking the forces arrayed against pronatalism are.Just it being hard to have kids, it being expensive to have kids, it being daunting to have kids, the regulatory load being too high, and those things matter. But what I'm realizing is really at play and this is something that came up at the natalism conference in Austin that we attended in December and spoke at was it really what this is, is there is a growing, there's a war on the horizon and it is between people who are pro humanity, pro humanity.Existence, sentience, life. I'm not saying pro life like anti abortion. I'm saying pro life like I like the fact that things exist and feel and, and anti life and this is something that we first got the rumblings of in like various off the record salons and dinner parties we [00:03:00] were hosting where we would bring up demographic collapse and pronatalism among major leaders, investors, politicians, influencers, et cetera.In a common The most common pushback we got, it was never any of the things I thought were the big bags, bads. It was never expensive, blah, blah, blah, regulatory, blah, blah. No, it was, but wouldn't the, wouldn't the world be better off without humans? And we're like, wait,Malcolm Collins: what? But this is an undercurrent.And it's a much bigger and more philosophically robust undercurrent than I think many pronatalists give it credit for. Yeah. Yeah,Simone Collins: exactly. There's, it is logically consistent and in, in the frame of modern progressive urban monoculture. society. It is the logical conclusion because it is a negative utilitarian mindset.Yeah, ifMalcolm Collins: you're interested in going into our deep dive on negative utilitarianism, why we are not negative utilitarians [00:04:00] go find our video on negative utilitarianism. Just so people know, whenever I mention a video in one of these videos, typically up here. I'm, I'm going to post something which will appear like a little link that you can click if you're on YouTube, which will take you to that video.And I often also at the end of a video, including the recommended videos, the videos that we have been talking about in that particular video to make it easier for you to find them. And this one, I'm almost certainly going to include if I remember the, the video on negative utilitarianism. So, you know, these, these are individuals who essentially believe that while negative