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Description: Malcolm and Simone discuss the key elements they designed into their constructed religion to make it "leakproof" against losing members over generations. This includes logical consistency, future-proofing for science advances, democratized prophets, and encouraging respectful dissent within the faith. They also explain how framing it in the Judeo-Christian tradition reduces conflict while allowing more conservative strains to potentially emerge again someday.Some key topics covered:* Why old religions lose scientists and logical thinkers* Solving the "good God" problem* Localized miracles issue with universalist faiths* Mutiple valid revelations concept* Future God and simulation theory* Value systems built into hierarchy* Encouraging rebellion tied to fidelity* Reducing conflict with conservative faiths* End goal of spreading the western tradition to the starsMalcolm Collins: [00:00:00] let's talk about science inconsistency because this is a bigger problem for Christianity than Christians like to pretend. So Christians will be like, look at all of the great things that we, the Western tradition, have accomplishedand what they are carefully ignoring here is that most of the most important scientists in the past hundred years, if they were born within the Judeo Christian tree, left the Judeo Christian tree either during their period of most productive work, or at least before they died.So you don't really get to, like, clearly there's a problem here for whatever reason, your most productive scientists are leaving the tradition. This is a big problem. It's actually interesting how symbiotic like if this takes off how symbiotic it is with traditional cultural traditions and that it literally sees it as a religious order to help protect their members from deconverting.And it only wants to prevent the people who they would otherwise have bleeding off from it but they would really rather not fall to the urban monoculture. [00:01:00] We can act as a good backstop, which can prevent talented individuals from falling into the urban monoculture.So it's acting as part of this cultural economy that prevents the true dangerous force from destroying our civilization before it can reach the stars and ensuring that the Western cultural tradition does. Join the stars to some extent. If someone's gonna be like, Why don't you care about the Eastern culture of Lucian?Because that's not us! Like, I have no connection to that. It would be weird and almost kind of racist for me to attempt to simulate that, or simp that, you know. We can we can work to help them where we can, but we're not part of that tradition.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Simone and Malcolm are back.Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. This is going to be a fun, particularly spicy episode today. I always get worried because our, our religion episodes, they typically perform really poorly at first and then they do better after a while. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's lower click through higher watch time, but they're my favorite episodes to do.Because it's a [00:02:00] topic that I just have been thinking so much about recently. And I think, you know, in the question of pronatalism becomes such an existential question for our species. Because in writing the Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religion, I mean, from the pronatalist perspective, it seems to be the only thing, like, religious cultures that are able to motivate high fertility in wealthy groups, like, the only thing, like, I have not found it.Anything else that reliably seems to do it, but then in addition to that, in writing the pragmatist guide to crafting religion, it just became really obvious to us that there's a correlation between the rise of mental issues in our society. And dangerous viral memes like the virus which is what we call the, the urban monoculture sometimes.And the decline of religious traditions. I mean, religious traditions may have been like a janky antivirus that had a bunch of bloatware on it, but it [00:03:00] was the only antivirus we had. Yeah. And when people ripped it out. They didn't realize how susceptible they were making the population to extremely virulent and, and, and quite selfish and dangerous memetic sets.And we're now beginning to see the fallout of all of that. But this all comes to a problem for us, right? So a lot of people are like, well, then just go back to one of the old religions. And we've done an episode on this, but, but it's something I want to pontificate on more while also talking about how we construct a system for our kids which is designed to have a low, low bleed rate, like withstand this storm, this, you know, this, this, it's like a bunch of the century storm that's only getting worse every year that all of the religious traditions have to intergenerationally weather against before we get to the other side of this.So, so how do I build that? But in thinking about that, I think a lot of people from more traditional religions will be

Malcolm and Simone discuss new research showing masculinity correlates with better mental health in men, contrary to common toxic masculinity narratives. More life satisfaction and less negativity about masculinity predicts higher wellbeing. They compare Odysseus vs Achilles masculinity, protective vs nurturing gender norms, reasons for voting differences, and information gaps affecting worldviewsMalcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Yeah. And a lot of people, they point this out and they're like, this is why women shouldn't vote.And this, you know, does they, they'll say that this causes differential voting behavior in men and women and that if women were voting, we would have a better outcomes.And I don't know, like I actually, I want, I want to come at this like as, as much of an outsider as possible. Is this true?Simone Collins: I question, though, the extent to which this, these dynamics of conflict and, Like the winning party translate over to, to politics like to political issues. Like I, I, I don't. AreMalcolm Collins: you denying that men and women vote differently?No,Simone Collins: no, no. I, I do think I do. Well, we know, we know that men and women vote differently and have very different points that you're making.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: You sure? I appreciate it. So Simone, we'll get started now. I am so excited to be talking with you. So we have this policy where we send each other interesting research when we find it. And Simone sent me some research [00:01:00] today, which was.Really elucidating because I always like when research disconfirms the hypothesis that the researcher went into it with. So, the researcher was looking at the really high suicide rate in men when compared with women. You know, we see this. Right, right.It's a sign of, , mental health issues in our society.And he assumed and I can see how somebody, especially if they're tainted by like the virus would assume this that, well, that must be what a men have that women don't have. It's masculinity. Therefore, it's masculinity, which is causing this because masculinity is like a toxic thing for men to experience.Simone Collins: Mm. Masculinity. Jacuzzi.Malcolm Collins: So then he ran a big study, a big study. He ran a big study on this. And what he found is that actually masculinity correlated with much better mental health in men instead of worse mental health in men.Simone Collins: Yeah. So let's, let's get into this. Cause I thought it was interesting. And there's a really great. Overview, maybe Malcolm, you can link to it from PsyPost, which we've been reading [00:02:00] since God, like 2016. I love PsyPost so much. PsyPost. org. P S Y P O S T. They, they post summaries of a lot of psychology studies as they come out.They link to them, which is very helpful because so many articles, like we're talking New York Times, Wall Street Journal, never linked to the studies they reference it drives me nuts. Cause then you can never like what's the methodology like, and then often what they also do now that they've grown to become a bigger brand than they used to be, is they will interview the researchers that have just.published the study, which is just great. So this particular study was authored by John Berry. That's the guy that Malcolm was talking about. And it was, it was published in Perspectives in Male Psychology. Or sorry, he's the author of Perspectives in Male Psychology as an introduction.But so the study that he did that we're talking about here that I thought was really interesting and shared with Malcolm was one in which he surveyed over 2, 000 men in the [00:03:00] UK. And over 2000 men in Germany. So this is like, you know, specific set of people. And I think it's really important to like set that as a baseline.The site post summary states, a key part of the survey was the positive mindset index, a tool used to measure mental positivity. The scale consists of questions designed to assess the feelings of happiness, confidence, control, emotional stability, motivation, and optimism. The survey also included several questions specifically about masculinity designed to understand how men perceive its impact on their lives.These questions were grouped into categories that reflected whether men saw masculinity as having a negative or positive impact on them, or whether they considered it irrelevant in today's society. Now, what's interesting is the findings which I think reinforce a lot of what we're discussing with culture and with, with sexuality and with relationships men who reported greater satisfaction with their personal growth had significantly higher mental positivity.So this has nothing to do with masculinity, but that is interesting. I mean, it makes a lot of sense. This was the strongest predictor of mental [00:04:00] wellbeing in both countries. Contrary to stereotypes of declining happiness with age, the study found that older men reported higher levels of mental positivity.I also think this is

Malcolm and Simone interview Pastor Paul VanderKlay on why people are increasingly leaving faith traditions and how churches can adapt to strengthen communities. He sees Jordan Peterson as bringing meaning back for lost young men, but online spaces still lack the authentic bonds of real-life congregations. They discuss modeling values for children, the limitations of internet community, changes coming to old institutions, the importance of sacred spaces for honest dialogue, and more.Paul VanderKlay: [00:00:00] Traditions of almost every kind are being tremendously tested and most of them are, are, are found wanting.And this includes, now, every, all the Christians listening to this, I know a bunch of my people are going to find their way to your channel and listen to this. This includes the church, and what, so G. K. Chesterton talked about, I remember it was five or seven, but the five deaths of Christianity. He said basically Christianity has died five times, and I think that's true.And I think the church, as most of us have known it, which, again, generalizations are really tough, but many of us have known churches that are Fundamentally modernist institutions sort of created around modernist assumptions, including my own denomination, many of these [00:01:00] churches are going away and they are going away fast.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: All right. All right. So for any of our audience who does not know Paul Vander Klee, the man who is on the show here with us today you might be surprised to know that you're probably in the minority of our audience. Cause I just now was reviewing our most overlap channel subscribers.And you are one of the most overlapped and I watch your videos. Pretty regularly. I, I, like, I haven't watched all of them. You produce videos almost as frequently as we do, which may be why we, you're extremely prolific. Yeah. Yeah. But they're actually really, really solid if you want to get I, I think one, like, insider politics of competent Protestant theology these days.Oh, that's true. As, as well as what is, like, what do, like, competent Protestant theologists. think these days? How are they engaging? Because the truth is, is that if you are listening to, and this is something I always talk about, if you're listening to like the conservative [00:02:00] elite class, the vast majority of them are Catholic or Jewish in descent.And so, you know, finding really good Protestant theologians who, who talk competently is, is, is much rarer within the current media landscape. And so I want to start with one. talking about how you came to the media landscape, because to me, you are somebody who is really I'd say almost the, , the paragon of an individual who is adapting new. technology and new social structures to serve an older religious position, which was the position of the preacher. How are you doing that? And how are you thinking about that right now?Paul VanderKlay: That's a great question. I'm constantly thinking about it actually.So I, I pastor a small dine church in Sacramento, California. Most churches, the size 60 year life cycle and. I would always have [00:03:00] interests beyond just the local church, and so I was involved with denominational things and all of this stuff. I blogged for years, just, just sort of playing with it, and then Jordan Peterson arose, and I thought this is probably the most important thing for me to pay attention to in my pastoral career.Wow. And I looked around because, because, well, the reason was, I mean, you guys talk about this basically this monolithic urban culture. What, what, what this has done in churches is that people have sort of either strayed into new atheism or strayed into a light new, new ageism and everyone who's going down that road.And what I saw happening behind Jordan Peterson were people coming back down that those roads and you hardly ever saw that before and significant numbers were doing it, listening to Jordan Peterson. He was reopening the conversation in a way that I didn't [00:04:00] understand, and so I wanted to understand it and the way I understand things is by talking to people, but.People in my church weren't going to watch Jordan Peterson. They were all mostly older people. So then I looked to colleagues. Well, most of my colleagues weren't listening to Jordan Peterson and those who were, wouldn't admit it. So I knew I needed some new conversation partners. So I thought. I was reading, I was rereading.I was real reading, I'm using ourselves to death at the time. And I thought there's something about this medium YouTube. And I had played with it a little bit with a member of my church, the Freddie and Paul show, you can still find it on my channel, but so if you want to get a sense of what my church is like, watch the Freddie and Paul show.So, so I was seeing this and I thought I'll make a YouTube video. What can, what, what, what can it hurt? There are how many YouTube videos out there that have 10

Malcolm and Simone discuss shocking new statistics revealing fertility rates plummeting faster than expected across Latin America, with countries seeing 30-60% drops in under a decade. They analyze root cultural causes and link to contraception access. This mirrors dire global trends barely being reported on, often dismissed as a racist issue, though in reality massively threatening Hispanic and African cultures too.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Stunningly, except for Mexico, all of the countries listed in this graph have already dropped below this level. Uruguay, Costa Rica, Chile, Jamaica, and Cuba now have a total fertility rate of around 1. 3 children per woman. The so called quote unquote ultra low fertility threshold that has only been seen in a handful of European and East Asian countries.in a TED talk delivered last year, Argentine economist and demographer Rafael Rothman said that his country's fertility had declined more in the previous six years than in the previous six decades.As a result, he told a queue. In 2024, there will be roughly 30 percent fewer four year olds entering Argentinian preschools than there were in 2020, a 30 percent drop in four years. A recent paper titled The Great Decline, Wanda Sela and three other Uruguayan demographers write that in just seven [00:01:00] years, the total fertility rate in Uruguay dropped from 2 to 1. 27 children per woman. There is no precedent for a fall of this magnitude in such a short period. Warned you people! We have been warning you for years now! if this was an animal species, like, if you had an animal that was having every year and it was due to a recent and rapid decline, that would categorize the species as an endangered or critically endangered species. So we would categorize most cultural groups in Latin America is critically endangered right now if they were a species.And if we were environmentalists, we would be freaking the f**k out about what's happening. But, nope, not gonna do anything because it's, it's, it's, they, they don't really give a s**t about. Hispanic populations. They only care about them when they can use them as a wedge issue. And this is why I always say that the conservative movement needs to understand that the problems that Hispanic populations are facing are the problems that we are facing culturally.There are alliesWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: [00:02:00] Well, Simone, a couple days ago, it was brought to our attention again that we are again on the front page of Reddit by my brother actually this time. He goes, Oh, you guys made the front page again. And this time we made the front page with a rehashed post. It was just like a copy of an old post by one of those spammers.That what, we look like a couple of parsnips? Nearsighted.Simone Collins: Nearsighted parsnips.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, making fun of us and being angry at us for nothing. Like, they seem to think that we are white supremacists or something. Or that our movement is And it's, it's so frustrating for me. How little what the pronatalist movement is actually doing has penetrated mainstream thought.There aren't people like clapping back being like, you know that they have like 20 like anti racist videos on their channel. Like they go really hard on this and if you look at the areas that have the most tragedy in terms of fertility collapse. The vast majority of them are not white areas, [00:03:00] and in fact, there's some of the very areas that people like them would assume that we have some sort of like ideological beef with.Simone Collins: Yeah, yeah, considering. So what we're going to talk about is relevant. Because I just sent to Malcolm. Well, we were on a. Flight news about Latin America's fertility decline, accelerating, not just being bad, like we've already mentioned, but accelerating.Malcolm Collins: It's not just accelerating, but it's accelerating at a pace that's frankly baffling everyone except for us, because we could have told you, like anyone who is familiar with Latin American culture.Anyone who has a lot of Latin American friends and anyone who knows us knows that's one of our primary friends groups like our company. We are the only non Latin Americans who work at our company. So, we are very, very tight with Latin American culture. Many of our best friends, like the godfather, our first son is, is Peruvian, for example.So we. Know a lot about what's going on was [00:04:00] in those immigrant groups and was in that culture. And anyone who knew that culture would know that their fertility is about to absolutely crash. And yet theySimone Collins: made these assumptions about us because we code conservative and we are conservatives, but also, like, it seems that a lot of conservatives are freaking out about the border crisis. And you know, there's a, just assume that anyone who leans conservative is like, ah, people from Latin America are terrible. And that's ridiculous.Malcolm Collins: Well, these people just aren't very

Malcolm and Simone analyze the symbolism in Disney's "Turning Red," where a girl turns into a red panda when she feels sexual urges during puberty. They argue the movie sends toxic messages like embracing sexuality too young, selling sexualized photos of yourself, and lying to parents. It could even be seen as promoting OnlyFans or sex work to minors. They compare to positive coming-of-age stories that handle themes of adolescence better.Some key points:* Panda is clearly meant to symbolize emerging sexuality* Sells panda pics to afford concert tickets* Lies to parents under guise of "mathletes club"* Ultimately rejects family wisdom on sexuality* Poor messages for girls on deceit, self-objectification* Better coming-of-age films handle themes with more care* Did creators consider implications of plot points?Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] It is not vague that this movie is about her sexuality and the panda represents her sexuality. So a lot of people got that.And they, they ended, how controversial the movie was at that. If that's what the movie was about, I would think it was a wholesome, good message. . And in one of the core things in the movie is she is breaking from that because she is accepting her sexuality at the end of the movie . She decides to not seal away her panda. She thinks that she needs to embrace her panda and make it a part of her.Everyday life. And this is to represent the traditional Chinese culture's rejection of sexuality and her embracing of sexuality. The core conflict of the plot is she wants to go see this boy band with her friends.But, she cannot afford to see this boy band with herSimone Collins: friends.Malcolm Collins: , so her friends get together and they advertise her panda to her panda to all the other young kids in the [00:01:00] school and the young kids pay to interact with her pandaOnly came to win the game, can't,Malcolm Collins: but.It's not that she has no scruples at all, there is one boy who is a dick, and she doesn't like this boy, . And so they have this boy pay an exorbitant amount to have the Panda be the main attractor at a party that he is hosting. . So it's saying one. Use this new sexuality you have found to pay for your lifestyle, IG only fans or whatever these days. Yes! Yes! If somebody is a jerk Restrict their access,but if they are paying a ton, yeah. Ah, that's where you really need to go all out with the pandaWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. So we are going to do an interesting video today because I really liked our Barbie video. Anyone who hasn't seen our video of Barbie being the most based movie ever made? [00:02:00] I genuinely believe that. It is an incredible movie. An insanely based movie. Like the point that Ken learned specifically, like, and I think it was an intentionally based movie, that Ken specifically learned about the patriarchy from a high school bookstore.They could have made it anything. They could have made it a regular bookstore. They could have made it TV. They chose to make it like what a conservative conspiracy theorist would make it. Like, why did they do that? But watch that if you want to see that. We're going to now talk about another video because people have been like, Oh, you should talk about this one.You should talk about this one. I'm going to talk about the show Turning Red, that time where Disney accidentally made a movie promoting Epstein like behavior. I'm going to have to keep finding euphemisms for what we're talking about here.Simone Collins: And a movie that genuinely terrifies our sons when they don't They don't flinch at Starship Troopers, Jurassic Park.Malcolm Collins: They ran out of the room at Turning Red.Simone Collins: Yeah, we were watching it again last night and our son [00:03:00] Octavian was like, I can't, I can't watch! And he runs out of the room. Because you know what? Female puberty is terrifying. Genuinely.Malcolm Collins: Genuinely. Few things that are scarier. So before we go further, I need to make a confession, Turning Red, if you haven't seen it, if you watched a bunch of people being like, oh, this is a woke movie or whatever, you shouldn't watch it because woke ism, and I don't watch movies because of woke ism, it's woke as hell.But it is a greatSimone Collins: movie. And let's just, for those who don't have a watching it but maybe still want to watch this, the gist of it is it's about a girl who hits puberty and happens to turn into a giant raccoon. When she feels sexual urges,Malcolm Collins: basically. Well, a red panda, which is technically a raccoon.Okay, yeah, a red,Simone Collins: fine, a red panda. Yes, a red panda. IMalcolm Collins: love that you mentioned the actual species name, because a lot of people don't know that red pandas are actually a subspecies of raccoon, but anyway, continue. Yeah. It's not [00:04:00] a tanuki, by the way. It's a red panda. But anyway. Yes.Simone Collins: So yeah, tanukis are super different.Come on. So, basically when

Malcolm and Simone explain their system for New Year's resolutions using categories tied to biology (health/family), career (income streams), and mission (purpose/impact). They track past goals in a spreadsheet, highlight achievements, and set 1, 5, 10 year timelines. They share real examples like scheduling health scans, working on awareness campaigns, and Simone running for office. The key is choosing projects with upside potential where you can make an outsized impact over time.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] Well, we put them in a spreadsheet and we, at the end of the year, highlight in green, orange, or red, the parts of each goal that we've either achieved or kind of achieved or not at all achieved. So it's really helpful to go back in time and sort of see where you are.Shooting a little too high or going a little too easy on yourself. So we've, we'veMalcolm Collins: done very well in the biology category this year, and we've done very well in the mission category this year, last year,Simone Collins: last year, last year, and then we did abysmally in the career category,Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. It is wonderful to be here with you today. I am very excited. So a lot of people would be surprised. In the book, we said that we'd plan to have Future Day on New Year's Eve. Like, why haven't we done it? Or you see more Future Day stuff. It's because we actually decided to, this is the first year we're doing a full test run of this, you know, with all the decorations and [00:01:00] everything, and the kids being old enough to remember it, to push it back into later in January.Making a wholeSimone Collins: month thing. I mean, like Christmas. Basically, it's a whole month thing. You know, you get the decorations for a whole month or if not more, right? If this is our most important and favorite holiday, then it deserves some time.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So we wanted to give it a bit more time, but I think talking more about traditional new year's type things, traditional new year's resolutions and just sort of the way that we personally keep track of if we are where we want to be in life, because I think it's.And it is highly efficacious, and it's something that I was taught to do from a young age. And I think that you developed a very similar system completely in parallel to me. And it's played a large part in us being able to get to where we are in life.Simone Collins: Yeah, no, we've both been very systematic.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, we'll also go over our own New Year's resolutions this year, while checking in on where we were last year.[00:02:00]So, the key to doing this, the key to handling New Year's resolutions, is to divide them into categories. And these categories are tied to well, I could just go through the three big categories we have of resolutions, which helps us think, you know, in a one year time frame, a five year time frame in a 10 year time frame where we want to be with each of these issues.Okay, 1 is what we call biology. This category is tied to our biological success. So this is health, this is relationships, and this is children. So the biology category, if you are in high school, for example, is likely going to be learning to date. Learning to interact with other people in a way that's going to be useful to you when you are looking for a spouse.And, and some level of health, but, like, you really don't need to go [00:03:00] overboard with the health aspect of this when you are young, so long as you aren't, like, addicted to something.Simone Collins: I don't know. Like when I was young, obviously I was starving myself to the point of like, Oh, she's probably going to die.So like my early biological goals and my spreadsheet, which I can see, cause I've been keeping track of this in a spreadsheet we're like, you know, maintain this healthy weight range. Please don't die. That kind of thing. And so there's, you know, it could be like if you have, you know, are trying, like you're a wrestler and you're trying to get into certain like weight classes or, you know, you're trying to be able to lift a certain amount of weight.Those are all very common. And I think this is among the most like mainstream of goals to have biological goals. Like I want to weigh this amount. I want to be able to run a marathon. I want to be able to play with my kids without being in pain. That kind of thing.Malcolm Collins: And keep in mind, a key thing about your biological goals is every biological goal that you have should have some level of utility and not be a vanity goal.So, when it comes to something like weight ranges, this can be very useful [00:04:00] for partner attraction, and this can be very useful for Long term health, you know, being able to achieve other goals. This is less true when it comes to something like, I want to work out more or something like that. Right?Like there is a level of exercise.Simone Collins: That's not like super measurable, right? So it's not perfect

Malcolm and Simone explain why they intentionally court controversy to spread awareness of demographic collapse, even though it can be costly. Controversy acts as "human clickbait" to draw attention, then their genuine wholesomeness converts people to the cause. They share examples of how negativity actually validates ideas to conservative/moderate audiences. Though they lose friends and receive hate, demographic collapse is now mainstream. Using themselves as "meme fodder" pierces bubbles, like how Trump used media bias through controversy. Spreading ideas through hate is effective, but know the personal reputation costs. In the end, saving humanity is worth some family sacrifice.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Now, this issue, because it counters the mainstream narratives around what people should care about, is considered a right wing issue.That's, that's not, I think, necessarily because it's a right wing issue, it's because the left control all centers of power today, so if you are saying anything that challenges the dominant narrative within society, you are considered a far right activist within today's, informational ecosystem. So we're like, okay, we can use this to our advantage. In fact, negativity, the press shows us in a way that's us with conservative and moderate. Audiences, they see skepticism about reasonable causes as validation of those causes, realism, efficacy, and, and grassroots natureWould you like to know more?Simone Collins: You look like you're actually in some kind of equivalent of a man cave, just like sitting there in the darkness. And like, here I am with my candles over there and the, you know, windows and like, there you are. It looks likeMalcolm Collins: it's two different times [00:01:00] a day in our two areas. We're in differentSimone Collins: time zones.Malcolm Collins: But I do like my man caves. You know that. I love the dark.Simone Collins: Yeah, you love the darkness. And like defensible corners, you know? Like, Yes, yes. You gotta knowMalcolm Collins: defensibility is important to me in terms of being comfortable in a room. Yeah, even if we'reSimone Collins: like sitting down at a restaurant, you're gonna want the defensibleMalcolm Collins: seat.Well, you know, that's what so much of feng shui really is. It's just defensibility.Simone Collins: Hmm. AndMalcolm Collins: that's why it feels like it works for people because what they're really sensing is how defensible is the space I'm looking at. I mean, I think a lot of aesthetics fall into this category as well. That is a very interesting take.When people are like, I like this view and it's like, well, what type of views do you like? You know, it's like, well, I like a view where I can see a long way. And there's water, like streams present so it's like, oh, so what you like is a freshwater supply in a highly defensible area where you're on some sort of high ground, [00:02:00] right?And they're like, no, no, no, no, I also like other views, like, I love views of the ocean. It's like, oh, okay. So you love views of an area where you have you know, a lot of food and, and likely you know, so much of human aesthetics and human pre programming, it's just around defensibility and the things that would haveSimone Collins: caused Will I survive here?And Yeah. Yeah, that includes both, will I survive if someone tries to attack me, and also, are there natural resources here that will sustain me? And that's beautiful. Hooray!Malcolm Collins: But we want to talk about something else today, not about human evolution, which is one of our big things!Simone Collins: But instead, we will talk about one of the things that has been most controversial about our general strategy.With our non profit very, very controversial.Malcolm Collins: Which is being intentionally courting controversy. Yeah. Intentionally courting controversy. So why, why do we do this? Why do we intentionally court [00:03:00] controversy? Because a lot of people see this. We've been called, what it was, that Sony documentary on us. It was like, they're human memes or something?Simone Collins: Oh, yeah, like walkingMalcolm Collins: A lot of people just, just for a bit of a background, if you're watching this channel and you're looking at the subscriber count and you're like, you know, I feel like I see these people in the news a lot. Why isn't their subscriber count higher? It's because this channel was dormant when most of our media coverage happened.So obviously if you look at this channel, you'll see stuff from like 15 years ago, right? Simone used this a lot when she was younger. We had a period where we revived it for a bit, but it hadn't been used in like three or four years. Yeah. When we were, you know, whether it was on Piers Morgan or whether it was on Chris Williamson or whether it was, you know, had the front page piece on us and in the Telegraph or the front page piece on us in the National Post or that big viral insider piece or the elite couple breeding t

We analyze new stats showing China's births plummeting by 37% in a decade, despite government pleas for more kids. Women don't want "Chad" husbands offering no partnership while still expecting housework and caretaking. Male sexual strategies that incorporate porn personas rather than earning respect backfire in marriage.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Simone! We are here again with. More shocking stats on how quickly fertility rates are falling in some parts of the world. The latest ones that really got me, and honestly, whenever I look at the Chinese numbers, I'm always just flabbergasted at how bad things are.And I should point out here, just so people are under no illusions here, because there is this popular myth, Chinese fertility rates are falling because of the one child policy. This is a myth. Okay Chinese fertility rates are not, they are falling much faster now than under the one child policy.They are much lower now than they were under the one child policy. They did not fall because of the one child policy. They fell due to a few issues that we are going to be discussing that are actually very similar. Similar to some of the issues that Korea and Japan have with their fertility rates.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: And in a way are tied to being too conservative which is really interesting and goes [00:01:00] back to this Aryababu study that we've mentioned before, which shows that in Europe, the more conservative a country is on average, the lower their fertility rate. While the more conservative a population group was in a country is, the higher their fertility rate, which goes against what a lot of people will assume is, is, is the case.So this shocking statistic that I saw that really got to me and, was that over the past 10 years, so from 2022 back to 2012, , the number of babies born in China per year dropped. from 16 million all the way down to only 10 million over a 10 year period.That is a 37. 5 percent decline. That is stunning and shocking. LikeWow. Wow. But it gets more interesting than this. Like, it's not like China isn't trying to prevent [00:02:00] this decline right now and why this is all relevant is I actually think it's very relevant to the United States and it's very relevant to some of the reproductive strategies men have decided to reactively begin to attempt and I think due to the rise of feminism and an overcorrection for that.And I think That it is these strategies that we see mirrored sort of what happens to the populations that adopt them. We see that in what's going on in China right now, in what's going on in Korea right now. So, Simone, you had read an article. I'd love you to go into this. Yeah,Simone Collins: I mean, what got me thinking about this was I got a Google Alert, We have a demographic collapse Google Alert, of course for an article.On Business Insider India, so totally random, titled Chinese women are fed up with Xi Jinping's attempts to make them have more and more kids. And the article talks about how basically the CCP has had, like they've had, they've made [00:03:00] speeches. They've said, we need to create a new trend of family. And they're trying to create.Matchmaking events and getting, get more people to get married. And she said he wants the Chinese people to quote, actively cultivate a new culture of marriage and childbearing to strengthen guidance on young people's view on marriage, childbirth, and family. And then. That the article talks about it basically like Chinese women aren't having it.But Chinese women are pushing back. I can't afford to take care of anything else aside from my parents and work. Molly Chen told the wall street journal. So. There's just basically like women to a great extent are like, they're hearing what the government is saying. They're also like, well aware that their access to reproductive choices being removed.But they're just not. They're not going to comply. I think this is going to be another lying flat issue. And the, the article does note also that there has been a meaningful decline, not just in births, but in registered marriages. [00:04:00] So they fell from 13 million to 2013 to 6. 8 million in 2022,Malcolm Collins: 13 million to 6.8 million. How far apart were those two numbers?Simone Collins: 10 years? So yeah, 2013. 13 million. 2022, 6. 8 million. So, almost falling in half. Like cutting in half. Holy s**t.Malcolm Collins: And I was looking to see with all of China's efforts to try to get their fertility rate up again. I couldn't find this year's statistics because Well, here's the name of an article.China deletes leaked stats showing plunging birth rate for 2023. Cause like how, how bad they do in 2023. Apparently so bad that China is now trying to scrub the internet of how bad they're doing in 2023. I mean We have talked about some things that lead to this in China. Right. One of the things that we've talked about that leads to this in China is just a lack of hope.You know, like why

We analyze whether a crypto tied to real estate could become a widespread default currency. Benefits could include transparency and minimizing money extraction by institutions. Risks include incentivizing overdevelopment and mispricing assets. We explore impacts on society, investing prospects, and probability of mainstream adoption.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I hope that this talk has helped listeners who don't understand like what VCs are actually thinking or what's going on in the world of like people who are pricing assets or deploying capital how they think about things.And and how they think about the future because I think this has been a good like educate to give like a broader picture on this. And I think it might be something that I might do, you know, if it does well, or if people like it recurringly just sort of analyze ideas in sort of a critical way that can help the average person understand what's actually going on with all thisWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello!It is wonderful to be with you here today. We have a guest today who was actually a fan of the show Chris Lehman, who reached out. You know, a very typical profile of a lot of the fans when we meet them, which is smart entrepreneur, you know, Harvard grad, like, working on a cool project. And we were talking about the project he was working on and it got me thinking oh, sorry, before I go any further, I do, I do need to point out why is Simone not with us [00:01:00] today? She has pneumonia and she is pregnant which means she can't do all the normal medications you would do if you got pneumonia. And so she's just been laid out, you know, in and out of the hospital recently, but you know, fingers crossed she's fine.But I'm able to do this, this wonderful interview. So, so we were talking about his project is in the crypto space. And I was like, well, you know what I could do, what everybody does in the crypto space these days is there's all these shows that like shill projects in the crypto space, right? Like they're like, Oh, this is so cool.And everything like that. And I was like, you know what I think our audience would prefer, which is like a really. Sort of, critical dive into one, the project, and I'm going to look at it from a few angles. Um, you know, will it make the world a better place? Which I think is always something you're sort of thinking of when you're talking about Web3 technology.Two, is it a good immediate investment? Like if you had capital, like me as a former VC would I invest in it? And three, what is the probability of it achieving its long term [00:02:00] objective? And so that's what we're going to go over. So, maybe the audience is like this, maybe the audience won't, but I'd love you to start by talking a little bit.And I, I always want to promote, you know, when I have audience members who are working on stuff, I always want to do what I can to promote that stuff so long as I think it's, it's like broadly in line with, with what we're doing that the community is doing. So start by going over what your project is.Chris Lehman: Yeah, absolutely. And thanks for the kind words and hope someone feels better soon. Definitely wouldn't want the, the kids go kid gloves treatment here on the podcast. Uh, um, but yeah, so, so I guess to start briefly before I go into the, I guess, full pitch and envision groma, which is my current project is a real estate and fintech company here in boston, about three years old and has the long term goal of launching a real estate backed cryptocurrency will go into significant detail.I expect about. Why that's actually a good thing. Or you know, people can decide on on the merits of that. But you know, I think fundamentally, the [00:03:00] project is motivated by the idea that society works best when financial gains are coupled with actual economic productivity. And in a lot of ways today, society is really not geared that way in ways that cause people to behave in ways that while they individually optimal are societally suboptimal.And so we think that by fixing two of the biggest institutions in society today, money and housing. You, you can actually fix a lot of those incentive misalignments. And so the long term goal talking, you know, decade plus out is actually having a fully operational scaled real estate backed cryptocurrency, but there are a lot of.intermediate steps that we're working on today to actually scale up and scaffold sustainably to get there. Yeah. SoMalcolm Collins: I want to hear your hypothesis on the three core areas that I was thinking of as an investment. I guess we'll start with short term prospects as an investment. And keep in mind, like this is, we're not trying to get people to like give money to a crypto project or something like this is only [00:04:00] accredited investors.It's like at the VC stage now. So this is all hypothetical from the perspective of our audience, but I think it will help our audience who haven't experienced what

We discuss Malcolm's theory that men have two overlapping sexual strategies evolutionarily encoded - a "raider" sexuality activated by porn/hookups and a "homesteader" one for long-term partners. By better understanding this bifurcation, men can avoid incorporating unhealthy Raider aspects as their identity. Roleplaying with a wife may satisfy the Raider side but risks altering her pair bonding.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] there are two major sexual events or strategies that a male can undertake. They can overlap and both be successful within the same individual. That means is that there was likely a push for both strategies to develop within men simultaneously. Yeah. And this leads to my hypothesis that the average man has a Raider sexuality and a homesteader sexuality. And, and so the things that turn them on most when they do with their long term partner may be actually entirely divorced from the things that turn them on most when.What would activate our Raider sexuality most within the modern world would be pornography. These are women that you have no emotional connection to, you see as entirely disposable. This can cause a lot of problems if a man, when he is young when he's learning what his sexuality is He begins to think that his sexuality is only [00:01:00] comprised of the type of pornography that he's consuming.If you can genuinely convince a woman's body that she's sleeping with a bunch of different people through this sort of role play, you might be actually triggering the same biological change that happens with her actually sleeping with a lot of people.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: requires some major mental caliber, which only, only menMalcolm Collins: have. Savona's pointing out that some of our audience doesn't like when we're on the wrong side. ISimone Collins: see the comments. I hear you people. And I made sure that weMalcolm Collins: This is, this is the problem with attracting a disproportionately autistic audience.Is they get annoyed when we're on the wrong side. Well, youSimone Collins: know what? ButMalcolm Collins: I want to talk about a concept that we have developed since writing The Pragmatist Guide to Sexuality. So all of our theories of human sexuality, this is actually not in the book and we haven't done a test on this yet. When I am done with important projects I'm working on now, I may one day run a test on it or when we have Ayla next on, because we're [00:02:00] booking that now I may try to compel her to include this in one of her future studies.But it is a concept that I think is really worth discussing on the channel in detail in sort of a dedicated episode as the what do we call it? The dual sexual strategy hypothesis. Okay, yeah, that's a good word for it. Which is to say that, Humans can have multiple sexual strategies pre programmed into them that exist alongside each other.So, one iteration of this that we do argue for in the Pragmatist Guide to Sexuality. It's how this works in women. So in women, we argue that when a woman goes out there and sleeps with a ton of people, her body undergoes something called a polymorphic change. So polymorphic changes happen in animals.The quintessential example of this is the grasshopper changing into a locust. If you, so in nature, this happens when it's When it gets over a certain population density but it can be simulated in a lab [00:03:00] by rubbing its hind leg with a Q tip and it leads to a behavioral change. It starts this swarming behavior.It also changes its color, shape, and size. So, pretty big change. But in primates, we see this in baboons, depending on like the resources the baboons have versus the troop size. They will change their social structure. So, I think it's like in, in resource dense areas it, it, it, versus resource scarce areas, they switch between larger social groups that are matriarchal versus large, smaller social groups that are patriarchal or some inverse of that.But it's a pretty significant change in how they structure themselves. Well, in humans human females specifically, what we argue in the book, and I believe Pretty strongly is that the more a human woman sleeps around the lower, like there were some studies done on this, the lower amounts of oxytocin she will produce with every first time new sexual partner, meaning that she is less likely.To have an automatic bond to that sexual partner which [00:04:00] is very useful in a monogamous society meaning that they basically automatically fall in love with the first person they have sex with to, to some small extent, and then to a smaller, you know, the second person, third person, but once they're on like person five, this effect no longer happens at all.And it's going to have a lot of problems in the dating market when women expect men that they are sleeping with, like on guy 10, to ever be able to recapture the spark they had with their first few p Romantic partners, which is often just impossible with women, not always. I m

We explain the strategic reason we celebrate Jewish holidays and are exposing our kids to Judaism. It's so they have a productive, moral backup culture if they reject our unusual views, not the urban monoculture. We believe multiple conservative religions like Judaism and Mormonism have validity from our "Tesseract God" perspective. Other options lack community today but we aim to build our own.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] if we want to give our kids the best shot in life it, you know, you want to look at.Yeah. Religious traditions that have favorable outcomes.it's doing something quite cruel to a kid to be putting them and raising them in a new cultural group that you have created yourself and raise them feeling like you won't appreciate them if they do anything other than this really insane, weird thing you set up for them.Malcolm Collins: And a lot of people, when we present our cultural group, they're like, why don't you just go to Our group, right? Like, this is what we constantly hear. They're like, our group is traditional, our group has done this a long time. And the answer is likely, and I don't mean to say this harshly, but it's probably because your group is failing.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. Today, we are going to talk about a fairly interesting and nuanced topic. Yeah. Which is this year, one of the things we did is we celebrated Hanukkah as a family for the first time. Yeah. And a lot of people are really [00:01:00] surprised by the fact that we raise our kids with the option to be Jewish.And they're like, what, why would you do that? We're like, why would you think you'd be accepted? Like, this is a weird thing to do. Especially given all of your religious beliefs. So this requires much enumeration on our part. At the end of this video, I'll play the little, you know, menorah lighting with the kids and everything.They were really into it this year. Yeah, I'mSimone Collins: sure we did it extremely wrong, but I will say that our oldest son, Octavian, got super into it. And we don't know how, like we let them watch. Stuff on their iPads for like a little bit every night. Well, not an iPad. It's actually really cheap Android devices, but they don't knowMalcolm Collins: the difference.We call them iPads. They don't know the difference.Simone Collins: Well, no, Torsten calls them his hot puss. Thank you very much. Hot puss.Malcolm Collins: OhSimone Collins: gosh. They're under a hundred dollars. Somehow, and we don't know how our son Octavian like found a bunch of, and he's, Four years old videos on YouTube about Hanukkah for kids.And [00:02:00] he just was like watching them on repeat. And then each night he was like, Oh, like let's, let's do it. Let's learn. Let's light the menorah. And then like, after it was over. There were like at least three nights of great disappointment when there were no more candles to light.Malcolm Collins: We didn't even do presents or anything.We just did the readings. No, yeah. No, yeah. He'd always say after a reading, he'd go, Mom, what does thatSimone Collins: even mean? What does that even mean? Every time I would finish, I would finish part of like the recital. Like both the kids would be like, yeah. Like after each, you know, like. You know, so, you know, the Lord encourages us to like light the menorah and the Lord performed these miracles and they're like, yeah, but they have no idea, no idea what it actually meant.But anyway, so like they were actuallyMalcolm Collins: really into it. Why are we doing this? Right. Like, like one is. So there's there's sort of two large strategic reasons for doing this. We believe really heavily that one of the big problems with a lot of conservative [00:03:00] tradition families today is that they raise their kids believing.That the, the alternative to following the culture that they are outlining for the kids is the urban monoculture. The only and default alternative. Whereas we are trying to raise our kids with a choice between two conservative extremes. where they feel that the alternative in the way that they are raised to be sort of intergenerational in the way they think about things is going to be the Jewish community.So one is why do we think we'd be accepted by that community in terms of how we do this? Well, the answer is actually pretty Interesting and unique to us, and I've mentioned this on other things, is that we found out, I, well, maybe a bit before we first met each other, but I certainly didn't know it until after we were dating, is that Simone is matrilineally Jewish, and within conservative Jewish communities, that makes her And our [00:04:00] kids, so I would say technically Jewish, whereas to them it's just fully Jewish.Simone Collins: Yeah, whenever we say to like at least some Jewish people that like, oh yeah, we're technically Jewish, they're like, what do you mean? And then we're like, well, yeah, our kids are matrilineally Jewish. And they're like, no, no, no. So the

We discuss the differing experiences of men and women as they age, using the analogy of youth being a fresh caught tuna that must get "sold" before it rots. Women are anxious to preserve their youth yet often end up just showing it off. Men don't face the same ticking clock. We must fight this by venerating motherhood, not telling women to "feel good" about decay.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] if you didn't achieve, like I did achieve many of the things I was sort of. program to achieve at different parts of my life, right? But like, suppose you didn't get to sleep around a lot when you were younger. Right. If you then try to do that when you are middle aged or an old person. Which aSimone Collins: lot of people try to do.Malcolm Collins: You will not get the validation or the happiness or the satisfaction you would have gotten. It is really important to understand declaring bankruptcy on stages of your life and moving to the next stage of your life. It is like thatSimone Collins: declaring bankruptcy on certain life stages. It just wasn't going to happen.Malcolm Collins: And then you can find new ways to optimize. There are new ways to optimize and still live a life of value. If you realize that you're middle aged or you're old and you never had kids and you never had a family, there are new ways you can Fill the role of an older mentor in your community and stuff like that.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Oh God. Yeah. When like, everyone was like, you can see every single pore that I have. Everything's horrible. When I [00:01:00] realized what we can do to fix my eyes is I just need to buy those like Naruto contact lenses or just like cinematic contact lenses, like just the just total black, you know, they're just completely black So for anybody wondering what she was talking about there my wife is wearing sunglasses right now because what's that thing that happened? You had like a bud Bessel burst in your eye. Not becauseSimone Collins: I look gnarly and disgusting. I mean more gnarly andMalcolm Collins: disgusting than normal. I think you look beautiful, but this brings us to our topic today.My wife has been Recently, you know, I was talking to her and she's like, I really do not like that. I feel like I'm beginning to look middle aged, you know, I am just my body. Yeah. And I was, it really sort of shocked me that this is still something that would be so concerning to her. The analogy I posted to Facebook, cause it got.a bunch of angry comments, as people can guess. And I think that they're really indicative of where we are as a [00:02:00] society. So what I said is, My wife has been getting worried about beginning to look middle aged.A woman pregnant with her fourth kid complaining about how her body looks to a devoted husband is like a fisherman with a pile of fish on the dock complaining about not having any worms. And of course people were like, and you know, some of my trans friends were like, Oh my gosh, you know, it really does matter that you're okay with your body.And here I am like, no. No, it doesn't matter that you're okay with your body. F**k your body. Your body is a tool that is meant to be used. And, and if you use it well, this is a really interesting thing. And I think it's an analogy I will use for my daughters for their bodies, right? The terrible,Young women in our society, it's like we as parents are giving them this really nice fish we caught like a tuna or something like that, we're like, go to the [00:03:00] market and get the best price you can for this fish.And you know, some women just come back with cum all over their tuna and then nobody wants to buy it. You know, nobody, nobody wants a tuna that, that people have had an orgy on, but that's not the only way you can I feel like the metaphorSimone Collins: is falling apart if that's what people areMalcolm Collins: That's not the core way or the only way you can f**k up this little routine.Okay? Okay. You go to the market and a lot of girls are coming back to their parents with a rotting tuna and saying, nobody wanted to give me a price that I thought it was worth, but look, I still got my tuna. The problem is, is that the tuna rots if you don't sell it. It is increasing in value with every second you haven't sold it.And this is the tragedy. Like, men go out there and they're all like, men have it so hard in our society. And I'm not gonna lie about all the unfairnesses of being a man. But [00:04:00] you're not dealing with this same ticking clock that women are dealing with.Simone Collins: Yeah, and it's not, it's not just appearance. It's, it's biology too.Like if one does want to have children. So even if one is totally like, yeah, appearance should be nothing. There's still this other functional limiting factor, which sucks.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. And it creates this, this environment where we tell girls protect the tuna, protect the tuna, protect the tuna to the point where they forget the point.Was that the

We discuss what defines the American spirit - hardship and sacrifice in pursuit of a better future. All major immigrant groups underwent trauma and trials to come here yet built economic dynamism. We must preserve that by not making immigration too easy yet welcoming driven, productive people. Assimilation erases cultures so we remain pro-immigrant but anti-assimilation.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] You know, you look at Silicon Valley, right? I think it's the majority or at least a huge chunk of the, you know, unicornfounders are first generation or second generation immigrants. That is what creates the economic dynamism of our country, because as we get further and further from this period of trial, and it is that period of trial that makes us truly Americans, we become less American, we become more indolent, we become more pathetic, right?And we, we can undergo this trial again, but we need to commit to it I mean, keep in mind every majority Catholic immigrant population that has ever come to America has come with gangs, the Irish, the mob, the Italians, the mafia, you know, the Hispanics, you get the art 15 or whatever it's called.Yeah. Okay. But this country is better for our Italian and and Irish immigrant populationYou know, sometimes, , I'll be talking to another Republican and they'll be like, . I don't like Muslim culture. And I'm like, do you like Trump? It's like, okay, well then you definitely like Persian [00:01:00] cultureMalcolm Collins: If a first generation legal immigrant is ever going on welfare, they should be immediately expelled from the country. Well, I mean, weSimone Collins: hold similar stances for anyone who's a drain on the nation.would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Immigration, man.Malcolm Collins: Immigration. Yeah. I, I think that the conservative movement and the way that they relate to immigration has kind of lost the plot of what it means to be an American. Some say with the progressive movement, they've lost the plot as well. Like most movements absolutely have, have lost the plot.But I think that if you look at the conservative base, they haven't, when I talk about the conservative movement, I'm talking about these elites who don't understand what the base actually wants. You know, you look at Oliver Anthony, the guy who wrote. , Richmond, north of Richmond. Great song, by the way, if you haven't checked it out.And he says, America's greatest strengths is their diversity and the people who are telling you otherwise are trying to manipulate you. He's telling the truth. You know, when we point out in our video on one of the greatest lies. Ever told to the American public that there is a racist, conservative base.There are more racist than the Democrats. It's just a lie. Like you look at five 38 polling and [00:02:00] up until Obama was elected, more white Democrats wouldn't vote for black president than white Republicans. The situation is actually elucidated as being even worse than this in a recent set of studies where it showed that the more Democrats you had in a region, the worse both black and Hispanic populations did when contrasted with the local white populations. So, having Republicans, even modern Republicans, As your politicians in a region or having a lot of the people who you are interacting with be republicans in a region, you are going to do disproportionately well off when contrasted with the average population if you are black and hispanic, even today.Malcolm Collins: But the Republican elites have gained their idea about what Americans think from the progressive stereotypes of what their base thinks, because they don't actually have a connection to their base because most of their friends are progressives and they're just acting out some idiotic.role.I also want to take a moment here to address some of our fans who watch [00:03:00] this and will sometimes comment things like, why are you guys so against ethnocentrism? Because I can understand to somebody that it might not seem like such a bad thing to care about your ethnic group over other ethnic groups.And this is a bit like somebody not understanding from when they're from like a different cultural group. And I'm like, , it's a bad thing to promote your family members to government positions even if they don't deserve those positions. And they're like, what? No! , nepotism is intrinsically ethical.I'm just helping family. Helping family is always right. And it's like, well, it's not always right when it hurts society at large. And this is the same thing with pretty much all forms of ethnocentrism. It's showing a short term preference for people who are similar to you genetically. over a long term preference for the good of society and the good of our species.Because if you look, If you're thinking 100, 000 years, a million years out.are black people, white people, Hispanic people going to exist? No, obviously not. Therefore, any sort of preference for these groups, especially if you're specifical

We discuss the disturbing trend of people being taught to resent and blame their parents. This toxic attitude promoted in media and psychology isolates kids from families that sacrifice everything for them. Malcolm reads excerpts praising parents from his ancestor's book showing the stark contrast - people back then were grateful despite immense hardship. We must fight cultural forces manipulating younger generations and regain the wisdom to properly judge good parenting.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] So I'll, I'll read a little excerpt he wrote here at the end of this book he wrote about his parents life and his life. The little story I have told about my parents and their way of life and their children seems to me as rather poorly told.For as good a basis as I had for writing the story, I do not suppose that any man is prouder of his ancestors and all of their descendants than I. If I had been giving an order to someone to supply me with parentage and with brothers and sisters, I would have ordered the very same parents I had, and all the brothers and sisters I had. in order to get this education, he would take these odd jobs, like digging irrigation ditches for people.Or doing fences for people and then he take this money and he would use it to pay for like first grade, right? And he would do every he would pay for it like 23 months at a time. Maybe even a few weeks at a time. Wherever he would get any sort of a cash windfall.Which is very different, you know, when you think about how hard these people's lives were and how much they sacrificed, you know, how much gratitude they had for their [00:01:00] lives. Why is it these people today who live these indolent lives where the state gives them education, where the state gives them everything, you know, where they're not, yeah, what, why, why do they feel this way?You know, why do they feel this level of hatred and entitlement? And I think A key answer here is they're taught toWould you like to know more?Simone Collins: First, I want to tell a little story about you as a parent. So, , one, you've been like totally stepping up over the past eight days cause I have really bad pneumonia, fever, chills, pain. Like this is the worst. I'm finally on medication for it. But you've been really stepping it up with the kids, but then I just discovered like also what you deal with, with like routine kids stuff that we have this, this like routine at night where I, I take our infant Titan or I guess she's like a.Twaddle her now. And I take care of her. I give her a bath. I like handle her. But you take the boys after we give them their bath and after dinner [00:02:00] and they go up to your bedroom and hang out with you and like they watch the little iPads and the educational videos you've queued up for them and you watch.something or play a game. What are you playing now? You really like thatMalcolm Collins: Warhammer game? Oh, Rogue Trader. It's fantastic. I like it more than Baldur's Gate, to be honest. It is, it is fantastic. It's a Warhammer fantasy game and I'm obviously love the universe.Simone Collins: Yeah. So, so you, you do that. And I just assumed like most of the times when I peek in the boys are sitting there, you know, well, always Octavian is under the covers hidden somewhere.The little kid reading a book with a flashlight at night, Torsten is sitting there, like, on top of the bed. Totally normal. Everyone's kind of doing their thing. But I can kind of now, like, I take a shower after I Get Titan in order and I can see you from the shower if I leave the bathroom door open and I was watching as our son, Torsten, repeatedly crawl up Malcolm's back and then just began pulling on his hair just until he was [00:03:00] like, Maybe like move his shoulders a little bit.Malcolm would, and then, you know, our kid tour scene would go tumbling off and immediately start climbingMalcolm Collins: with hisSimone Collins: tablet. Yeah. Like whacking you, pulling your hair. And I'm just like, and there you are just patiently. Playing your game. LikeMalcolm Collins: this goes to our parenting philosophy or a lot of people would be like, why aren't you, you know, why isn't your son better behaved?And I was like, because we believe not in breaking a child's will, but in stoking their will, the most valuable thing a child has their will. And insofar as they're just goofing around and being boys, like we don't care. And, and, and with tablets actually, and we'll do a longer episode on this. Cause I think this is a really interesting point is people know that generally.Studies show that screen time is not good for kids and they're like, why would you give your kids any screen time? Right? What they also haven't done is look at the effect size of these studies. Yes, while it is generally agreed across studies that screen time is not good for kids, the effect size, like when people talk about like what's going on with general, it's typically below 5%.It's like 3 to 5 percent on m

We discuss a shocking New York Times article advocating for breeding only short people to help the environment. This blatant eugenics promotion reveals the authoritarian thinking and moral blindspots on the left. We contrast it to polygenic selection which supports family choice, not society-wide suppression of "undesirable" genes. We also cover recent studies confirming left wing authoritarianism and the left's cultural genocide of minorities through forced assimilation.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Like, if you take two steps back from all this, it's like, I feel like that meme where they're like, you know,how's it going now?You know, and they're like, it's like New York times promoting eugenics to help the environment. Ooh, that bad, huh?Yikes guys. Yeah, you, you are. Deep in the spiral nowWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Yeah, what did I do? Well, I thought that recorded. I clicked the camera because I could camera for recording. You know, we've only done this a hundreds of times now. And of course I turn off my camera anyway, whatever I did to be here with you because I have seen this trend in media recently that just flabbergasted.So. For context here, Simone and I have gone through, you know, the, the rounds in progressive media over and over and over again, they hate that we do polygenic selection on our kids because, oh, my God, we believe that humans have genes and certain traits are [00:01:00] heritable and that families should have access to the reproductive choices to have kids the way that their culture says it's the.the ethical way to have kids and in a way that nudges those genes in directions that their family values on an individual basis. Right. And as well,Simone Collins: they unceasingly accuse us of eugenics, even though by the definition of eugenics that anyone could agree upon, like if you look at Wikipedia's definition of eugenics, we are very much against eugenics because one, we don't believe that there are universally good or bad traits.And two, we are very much against trying to fight for. Promulgation or suppression of those universally good or bad traits in on a society level. Right? SoMalcolm Collins: like to point it out, like what we think is every culture and every family should have the right to choose what traits they think are best for their family to optimize around.Right? And then as a society. Like, like, the world tests us and determines which families and which groups chose correctly. [00:02:00] Yeah, butSimone Collins: there are different societal, environmental, economic, etc. contextsMalcolm Collins: that make different traits useful. Yeah, and one of the interesting things that has been a theme to me recently is as soon as the left, like, accepts something that we've been trying to get them to accept forever, as like, don't immediately, like, run away screaming like you touched a hot stove when you mention something like humans have genes, their first intuition is always to take it to the most insane and evil place humanly imaginable.And so the left has finally admitted That some traits in humans may have a genetic component and the very first thing they want to do is eugenics, like, like, bad eugenics, like evil state sanctioned, like, yeah,Simone Collins: like you should only reproduce with these people.Malcolm Collins: Eugenics. Yeah. Yeah. You should only reproduce with these.people because these are the good people and other people are the bad people. Like, why can't the left just not be evil for five seconds? But anyway, and I'm not talking about fringe left here. Okay. So there was an article talking [00:03:00] about New York times and the New York times now that they have realized the humans have genes.They're like, well, short people are better for the environment. Therefore you should only breed with short people. And. Hold on, so this isn't just like the New York Times. So the article in New York Times that goes over this is there has never been a better time to be short, but there have been other articles like this.There was 1 in popular mechanics. You should make with short people to fight.Climate change expert says there was you know. Yeah, there's been a few articles that have sort of gone over this. AndSimone Collins: by the way, nothing against short people, first off, I want to say that. Like, there are definitely, there are longevity benefits to being short.There are health benefits to being short. And there are environmental benefits to being short. We're not saying, it's the fact that they're taking a eugenic stance on this that we have a problem with. In fact, we shared this article on Twitter and one of our followers pointed out quite cleverly and this is a very dangerous question to ask.Which is wait, but like, [00:04:00] what's the difference between like a short person and like a thin person in terms of their environmental impact? Oh, I know. It's like,Malcolm Collins: don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't watch ou

We interview leaders of the Mormon Transhumanist movement, an association of Mormons interested in using technology to improve life. They explain core Mormon beliefs like humans can become gods, the purpose of existence is to bring about immortality/eternal life, and there are multiple heavens you go to based on your desires. We find many similarities with our ideologies and possibilities for cooperation to build intergenerational religious communities.Lincoln: [00:00:00] The second president of the Mormon Transhumanist Association has what?Eight children.Malcolm Collins: Do you know if there's any second generation transhumanist Mormons yet, i. e. kids where this belief system has been successfully passed between generations?Lincoln: All of my children are Mormon transhumanists. They're all adults.Malcolm Collins: Oh, wow. So it's working. Okay, then the next thing I really want to talk to you about, cause I think that this is the most interesting thing about it, is the large following in Africa.Carl Youngblood: Yeah, so that's, that's pretty recent. I was approached earlier this year by a guy in Senegal whose name is Kwasi Ngesen. And he was like, I really love what you guys are talking about. He went to our website and read some things and was really excited about it. And he said, I'd like to spread it to Africa.And I guess he's a pretty good community builder. So, suddenly we have like, Almost 30 different groups that he has opened up in various African countries and is currently [00:01:00] Sharing some ideas with themWould you like to know more?Carl Youngblood: HelloMalcolm Collins: everyone! We have a very special guest here today that I am really excited and could not be more on topic for our podcast. Or I think of more interest to a lot of our listeners who are interested in the more religious stuff. But we have with us today the Co founders of the transhumanist Mormon branch of Mormonism, or I'd say movement.I don't like to say movement because I think it's a bit more than that. And I'd really love you guys to introduce yourself. And I'd love to start just by talking about what it is as a concept. And how you see it as contiguous with the traditional Mormon tradition.Carl Youngblood: Awesome. I guess I'll start.My name is Carl Youngblood. I'm the current president of the Mormon Transhumanist Association. And I'm one of the co founders of the association. But, and Lincoln is as well, but there are several others, so I feel I need to give credit [00:02:00] to The whole group. There's, I think, what was it, Lincoln? Like 14 people or so who co founded the association.And I do want to clarify that several of us are active Latter day Saints. We consider ourselves to be kind of in the mainstream church, as well. Although it's not required to be a member of The LDS church to be a member of the association. So we have Several active members. We have some who are not active in the church That's a term we use for like whether you are a practicing member.I should say Sometimes we use this lingo inside Mormonism. That is a little bit confusing. So So yeah, there are practicing Latter day Saints in our, in our midst in the association. There are others who are not practicing and others who've never even been Latter day Saints, but just found a lot of interesting things to talk about in the group and, and kind of gravitated towards us for [00:03:00] various reasons.And I'll let Lincoln talk a little bit more about it as well. Go ahead Lincoln.Lincoln: Sure. Thanks, Carl. Yeah, my name's Lincoln Cannon. Like Carl said, I'm one of the co founders of the association, and I served as the association's president for 10 years from its inception until 2016. As Carl pointed out, the, you know, there isn't any necessary strong distinction between a Mormon transhumanist and a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, I agree. I've been mentioning that I've been figuring that out as I've been talking to more Mormons, where a lot of the beliefs that I see are very transhumanist sounding to me, so it seems like a very natural evolution. If it is such a natural evolution, why make the distinction at all?Lincoln: Yeah, so, and a valuable part of that is that by making some things explicit.You emphasize them, you bring them to mind, and you ensure their continuing maybe [00:04:00] virility, or even viability within the culture. And that's one of the things that we cared a lot about, is that we wanted to call attention to aspects genuine aspects of Mormon culture and theology. That we felt were very important, are very important, and that merit more attention than perhaps the average Mormon gives them.And so, you know, by, by, by organizing a movement around this, we call attention to those things, we emphasize those things, as a consequence, we cultivate those things within the culture.Malcolm Collins: So can you elaborate or highlight some of the things that you guys would be focusing mor

Where to Live Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tq9rY1TCs49XHckWtzOowYz_xHXFnRpOZq8r0lE5JSQ Should you have more kids? We discuss the REAL costs of additional children and why it gets dramatically cheaper after the first few. We also cover why private school, travel, restaurants, etc. are overrated for kids. Having a big family forces you to live more reasonably!Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] The incremental cost of each additional kid.Cause I think people might be really surprised. There was a study done on this and it shows, I think it's like after four, every additional kid costs on average about a thousand dollars a year. So not a lot.In an article called The Marginal Cost of Children in the New York Times Archive. . By the time you get to kid three, you have fallen from a cost of. around 15, 000 a year for one kid to, well under 3, 000 a year.And so you can see how you get down to like 1, 000 extra a year, or 800 extra a year when you get like four, kid number five, the costs just drop really dramatically.Malcolm Collins: And, and the waste that you have when you're having a few kids, keep in mind, you still need to buy all the s**t, you know, whether or not you're having a ton of kids or a few kids.So, you know, the next time you have a kid, it's no baby toys, it's, it's no, you know, no, no, no toddler toys.Simone Collins: No new swings, or highchairs, or bibs, or plates, [00:01:00]Malcolm Collins: or bottles, or sippers, or Every time we buy something for one of our kids, that's being used by like a huge chain of kids after themWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Anyway. Hello, Simone! It is wonderful to talk to you today! So, we did this video on dinks, right? And we're like, dinks are actually good, right? Because They are we don't want these people having kids, they're not going to be good parents, probably not good for the gene pool so, let's march them into their sweet good night all by themselves.Now, this But we got someSimone Collins: interesting, we got some interesting comments on that video, and, and one I wanted to do a conversation about.Malcolm Collins: Well, and I see this with other people, right? Like, the core point we made in the Dink video, or one of the points that we made, Is that you know, while we pity dinks, the people we pity more than dinks is people with only one or two kids, because it's all of the cost of kids and none of the real benefits of kids.Well, you get some, I mean, you get like the, the shallow masturbatory feeling of I have a kid that the dinks don't get and like, you get to experience them and spend time with them, which is nice, but you don't [00:02:00] get like the genetic or cultural effects, right? You know, you're not really. contributing to a solution in a big way.And, and it's actually harder. We argue like, like, and for us, it's very obviously harder. It is, it is much harder to have fewer kids than more kids.Simone Collins: Totally. And we're stressful andMalcolm Collins: way more stressful. And we need to talk about why this is the case. And in many ways, you know, we immediately saw it in the question that they're asking us about this.It's like, well, I have two kids, but like, I don't know how I'm going to afford.Simone Collins: I'll read the comments. There were, there were two comments. It sort of inspired this. So one person said, I have two kids, but I think I need to make more money before I go for number three. My mother in law is already very against her daughter having another.So I was waiting to my economic situation changed to go for, for three. But should I, I know I want three because that's above replacement level. But what are the economics of kid numbers at three, four, five and crazy numbers like 10 and then someone else also answered, I want. More of this conversation to currently have to, but would love for, but don't want to reduce the quality of life for the children.I [00:03:00] have IE vacations, private school, et cetera. It's just a very interesting conversation. That's theMalcolm Collins: answer there. And this is, this is why higher numbers of kids become much easier because when you get to the higher number of kids. You realize that a lot of these things that you thought was necessary for your kids quality of life was really more about your own personal vanity than the kids actual Or societalSimone Collins: decoupling.Yeah, I think this understanding that private school, for example, is really good for your kids or necessary for your kids, or that, like, vacations where you fly somewhere are good for your kids or necessary for your kids. Like, I remember this, like, your Like you had relatives who were making this huge deal about flying their sons to Italy and how they were going to expose them to so much culture.And this was going to be so formative for them. And they were all young teens at that age. They were like, yeah, you know, they're old enough to really appreciate it culturally. And they went and

We explain the rising tensions between pronatalists and antinatalists as an ideological war emerges. While some antinatalists logically argue for non-consensual human extinction, we remain committed to pluralism. However, their totalitarian views are concerning as they gain institutional power. Though depressed and self-loathing now, their numbers grow quickly. We must peacefully opt out to avoid potential violence.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] We need to really keep in mind that there is a growing movement out there that wants to end all human life.Khrushchev said he would bury youMalcolm Collins: anyway, children too will be fine.It would be such an ignorant thing to do If the RussiansMalcolm Collins: The problem is that these people don't have children and know they don't love them. Believe me when I say toMalcolm Collins: and they really do want to kill you all and they could end up in nuclear silos.They could end up in positions of power and we need to keep in mind just how dangerous the forces arrayed against us really are you know, while we try to be as pluralistic as possible, we need to understand that they want to remove consent from everyone, everyone.if you could end suffering tomorrow, yeah, probably anything is justifiable. Inflicting just about anything is probably justifiable, imposing just about anything is probably [00:01:00] justifiableMalcolm Collins: They are the, I think, the truest and purest form of evil in the world today. And it feels really good that there are enemies because I know I'm on the right side. It's like you get to a holocaust camp and you're like, Oh, these guys are clearly the f*****g bad guys. You get to an epilous subreddit, you're like, Oh, wow!You could not more clearly signal that you're evil. But they are growing and they're growing faster than us.Simone Collins: Yeah, yep, gird your loins, ladies and gentlemen,Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: So Malcolm, I'm not really sure when this is going to go live, but we are very rapidly approaching the end of the year 2023. This has been a wild year for us through the generosity of the survival and flourishing fund a significant amount for pronatalist advocacy work. Which got us really tapped into the community to the global landscape.We've spoken with journalists across the world, Germany, France,Malcolm Collins: politicians, politicians, leaders.Simone Collins: Yeah. Just individuals. It's been wild. And I, I came in with [00:02:00] a very different perception of the forces arrayed against pronatalism that I have now at the end of the year, I came in thinking the forces arrayed against pronatalism are.Just it being hard to have kids, it being expensive to have kids, it being daunting to have kids, the regulatory load being too high, and those things matter. But what I'm realizing is really at play and this is something that came up at the natalism conference in Austin that we attended in December and spoke at was it really what this is, is there is a growing, there's a war on the horizon and it is between people who are pro humanity, pro humanity.Existence, sentience, life. I'm not saying pro life like anti abortion. I'm saying pro life like I like the fact that things exist and feel and, and anti life and this is something that we first got the rumblings of in like various off the record salons and dinner parties we [00:03:00] were hosting where we would bring up demographic collapse and pronatalism among major leaders, investors, politicians, influencers, et cetera.In a common The most common pushback we got, it was never any of the things I thought were the big bags, bads. It was never expensive, blah, blah, blah, regulatory, blah, blah. No, it was, but wouldn't the, wouldn't the world be better off without humans? And we're like, wait,Malcolm Collins: what? But this is an undercurrent.And it's a much bigger and more philosophically robust undercurrent than I think many pronatalists give it credit for. Yeah. Yeah,Simone Collins: exactly. There's, it is logically consistent and in, in the frame of modern progressive urban monoculture. society. It is the logical conclusion because it is a negative utilitarian mindset.Yeah, ifMalcolm Collins: you're interested in going into our deep dive on negative utilitarianism, why we are not negative utilitarians [00:04:00] go find our video on negative utilitarianism. Just so people know, whenever I mention a video in one of these videos, typically up here. I'm, I'm going to post something which will appear like a little link that you can click if you're on YouTube, which will take you to that video.And I often also at the end of a video, including the recommended videos, the videos that we have been talking about in that particular video to make it easier for you to find them. And this one, I'm almost certainly going to include if I remember the, the video on negative utilitarianism. So, you know, these, these are individuals who essentially believe that while negative

We explain our strategy of aggressively educating kids about sexuality to normalize it and reduce interest. We believe society frames sex as no different from porn and this obsessiveness ruins enjoyment. True happiness comes from improving future generations, not temporary pleasure. Early exposure and openness make desire and experiences less appealing long-term.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I was like, okay, let's look into the data on this. Yeah. Generally it seems that the more you teach young kids about sex, the less they have sex and the later they have sex the first time. Do you think that's because adultsSimone Collins: are tainting it with uncoolness?Malcolm Collins: I would that could be part of it. Yeah,Simone Collins: but does this teaching kids about sex include teaching kids about. Abstinence, or like teachingMalcolm Collins: kids to not have sex.Okay, so you can do abstinence only education, which actually has a similar effect to general sex education.Simone Collins: Interesting. See, I had thought as a kid growing up, and like younger, that like abstinence only education didn't work. That's what I always heard. AbstinenceMalcolm Collins: only education doesn't work. Of course, because that's what they wanted to tell you.Yeah. Like that fit the narrative. Perhaps in this only education actually does work, but it doesn't seem to work as long as general sex education. The more a community is told to restrict access to these sorts of things, the more they're going to engage with these sorts of things under the radar.It really seems like. The best panacea [00:01:00] against over sexual abundance. So we will teach our kids, basically the answer here is we will teach our kids pretty aggressively and early about human sexuality. But because we want them to engage in the topic with moderation, and we think that that is the best way to achieve that outcome. ​We are getting to do a special recording today because we had the disappointment of setting up all our recording equipment For a Great Britain, what about a GB news interview?And this is the second time they've done this to us But you know, we always got to be ready for those news conversations and said we're like what we blocked out time Anyway, we might as well take the time to chat with each other which is more fun Let's be honest. We had one of those, those recording sessions ruthlessly stolen from us by a a friend where we had to talk with a friend.Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. The burden of [00:02:00] friendship. Will it ever leave us, Simone? God, I don't know. One day I hope to be famous enough that I do not care about alienating myself from friends. The whole world can be just you, me and the kids. Won't that be wonderful?Simone Collins: Yeah, except then like the friends that you do hang out with probably just hang out with you because you're famous, which sounds annoying.No,Malcolm Collins: no, I don't want any friends. Once I'm, once I'm at that level. Just, justSimone Collins: would be completely isolated. Okay, that's dreamy. I'mreadyMalcolm Collins: for that. You, me, the kids, living in our, our antique farmhouse in the woods. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Or potentially we're going to have to go set up our charter city by then, some remote place in the far north, a little settlement, right?Simone Collins: God, I don't want to leave this place. I really likeMalcolm Collins: it. I know. I know. So today's topic is an interesting one. And it has to do with when we think it is appropriate and how we will engage with our kids and the subject of sexuality. Indeed. And [00:03:00] what's really funny is I think a lot of people might see us or they see, you know,they know that broadly, you know, we consider ourselves as very like culturally similar to Ayla. And, and we're friends with her, you know, we have her on the show sometimes. And then we'd be like, what, so you want to raise your kids to grow up like Ayla, right? Like, is that your goal? I'm notSimone Collins: grow up like Ayla, because she grew up in an extremely hardline conservative religiousMalcolm Collins: household.Yeah, well, I mean, we are an extremely hardline conservative religious household, we just have a different view of sexuality. We'reSimone Collins: not a sex negative extremely hardline conservative religiousMalcolm Collins: household. Yeah, that's what you meant. So, so, our response would be, you know, which of us Ayla or us, do you think, grew up not learning about sexuality?I was exposed to sexual, like, like, information at an extremely young age. And, and I would say it was extremely negative. I, I remember, because I remember, okay, so the house I was living at the time, I couldn't have been older than seven. When my mom, I [00:04:00] remember this conversation with my mom. Oh dear.Simone Collins: And she takes me by Okay, soMalcolm Collins: you're totally pre pubescent at this point. And she goes, well, Malcolm, you're going to need to be very, very careful because many

We explain why the childfree/DINK (dual income, no kids) lifestyle is not something the pronatalist community should oppose. If people do not wish to have children, they likely would make poor parents and passing on those genes is not productive. We also highlight how the animosity towards DINKs often stems from jealousy, not concern for civilization. Ultimately, voluntary sterilization of those not fit to parent strengthens society long-term.[00:00:00] We're Dinks. We can go to Florida on a whim. We're Dinks. We're already planning our European vacation next year. Dinks. We get a full eight hours of sleep and sometimes more.We're Dinks. We get desserts and appetizers at restaurants. We're DinksSimone Collins: the response that pronatalist communities or even just like broadly conservative people have to them is just totally wrong.These are people who really, really, really, really should not be having kids.Malcolm Collins: We mean this both from a genetic reason.Like, as we've talked about, like a dink is obviously more likely to be narcissistic, less likely to want to get back to society, et cetera. But in addition to that, they're not going to be good parents.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: I just hit record. So we're set. Let's make sure you're looking gorgeous. I love it when you have a little flippy do on your forehead of hair. It'sMalcolm Collins: just really I wanted to see. So we will, I love my wife and I am excited to be here with you today. Because we are going to talk about a subject. that I didn't really know about. Apparently there was some meme around this because a bunch of [00:01:00] people got mad at people on the internet about this, because people on the internet love to get mad and judge other people.But it is the phenomenon of dinks. And it's a dual income, no kids. No kids. So these are couples, no kids. And I think a lot of people they look at us, you know, the ISTs and they're like, oh, you're fighting the dinks. Right? And it's like, not really . And we'll, we'll get to this actually. You said at the prenatal list conference, somebody came up, right?Mm-Hmm. . And they were like, well you guys as ISTs, you know, what are your views on and how are you going to fight the use of condoms? You know, like in other contraceptive drivers,Simone Collins: right. . And they also ask you this, like on the spot in front of a large audience of people.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, I said something along the lines of, look, I do not want kids being born because they were born accidentally.That is notSimone Collins: a victory. Seriously, or to people who don't want them. Come on guys.Malcolm Collins: How is that a good thing that we are basically [00:02:00] forcing you know, people who don't want kids to have children with people who they did not intend to have children with? Talk about cruelty.Simone Collins: What to theMalcolm Collins: kids, you know, she's just like, come on.Yeah. And this is, this is very much around dinks, you know, if somebody doesn't want kids, like that is not our job. WeSimone Collins: also like, we don't want them to have kids. Our job is to protect. They're right to not have kids. Cause if we care aboutMalcolm Collins: kids from them, exactly, exactly, let's, let's talk about dinks more broadly.So, we'll do the little video of the dinks here. So you can seeWe're Dinks. We go to Trader Joe's and workout classes on the weekends. We're Dinks. We get into snobby hobbies like skiing and golfing. We're Dinks. We can go to Florida on a whim. We're Dinks. We're already planning our European vacation next year. Dinks. We get a full eight hours of sleep and sometimes more.We're Dinks. We get desserts and appetizers at restaurants. We're Dinks. We can play with other kids and give them back. We're Dinks. We still do it three times a week. We're Dinks. We spend our discretionary [00:03:00] income. We're dinks. We max out our 401ks, Roth IRAs, and HSAs. We're dinks. We don't use our kids or dog as an excuse to leave a party.We just leave.Malcolm Collins: they do come off as a little, well, I mean, well, forSimone Collins: context, like dinks did start trending a lot recently because a lot of dinks are making Tik TOK videos specifically about it. And this one couple doing this sort of back and forth of dink lifestyle amenities went viral.Which led to aMalcolm Collins: lot of discussion. Our friend of the show, Edward Dutton, did a counter dink video that I'll Which is hilarious. Found randomly. It just came up and he's like, oh, his voice sounds familiar.We're dinks. We've been sucked into a death cult. We're dinks. We're putting our immediate hedonistic desires above our long term genetic interests. We're dinks. We're part of a selection event, and we've been selected out. We're dinks. We're coping with the fact that we're going to be failures as organisms.We're dinks. When we're older, we're going to look back on our lives with a profound sense of regret.

My wife Simone and I have a discussion about conceptualizing God as a four-dimensional "tesseract" that humans can only perceive shadows and projections of in our three-dimensional world.We talk about how conservative interpretations of religions may come closer to truth than progressive re-interpretations, the issues with using psychedelics for revelation, the problems with "super soft" cultures, and more. We also touch on why we encourage people to follow their own religious traditions.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] generally, we think that people are following both a more accurate iteration of God, by following the conservative traditions of their faith, and, and that they are following a totally true iteration of God. So, what I mean by that is the human mind is unable to really conceive of a four dimensional space. And we think of God as like a four dimensional entity in this, this metaphor. When a person is looking at the shadow of a three dimensional cube. And they just go as the shadow that was projected.Mm-Hmm. And they say this is what a cube is. They are actually saying something that is 100% true. They are seeing a full and complete revelation of that cube as that cube can be revealed to someone of their intellect in that time in history. if we were evangelizing to an average person, that evangelization doesn't look like follow us. It looks like a go back to your traditions because that's the closest to truth you're going to get.Would you like to know [00:01:00] more?Simone Collins: Hello, you beautiful creature. Hello,Malcolm Collins: you beautiful creature. You are the best, Simone. And we are going to have a conversation today about a topic that I briefly touched on in the Our Religion video topic. But I want to get a lot deeper on because one of the real risks around any religious belief system that believes that there can be multiple revelations from God or multiple prophets.And this is why, Most of the more simple religious systems will say no, no more prophets after this one. Nothing else comes after this one. Because it's easy to pass that culture with intergenerational fidelity because if you don't then any random person who's like a f*****g magician can come along and claim Yeah, I'm the next prophet, you know, or no take backsies You can get the softening of the religion.So, a lot of people will say something like, Every religion has an element of truth. They say this in an attempt to [00:02:00] soften their religious framework. Right?going with the logic that if all religions have an element of truth to it, if any religion allows some behavior they want to undertake, then all religions should allow it. Or that if any religion doesn't demand some action or penance from them, then no religion should demand that action or penance from them.Malcolm Collins: You know, they, they, they, And you, you've seen people who do this. They have some like weird, hippie nonsense as their belief system. And it's just pointless.But they, they form, They end up forming what we call in the book The Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religion, a super soft Culture or a framework. So when a person is building a world framework outside of any traditions or outside of science, like when you have dug down to the bottom, completely drain the ocean of their mind.A lot of people think what is under there is secularism, and it is not. Secularism, you know, when practiced rigidly, is, is actually very, it can have a lot of religious aspects to it that cause people to go against their [00:03:00] basal instincts. Instead, what you find is this sort of, like, pre programmed human religion, I guess I'd call it.It's, it's the scars of our evolutionary history. You know, it's, it's, it's a belief that we're all connected. We're all sort of one they'll have fetishes. When I say a fetish, I don't mean like a sexual fetish. I mean like an item that they believe has some sort of power to it. Like a crystal or something like that.They often believe that humans are divided into distinct categories. You know, this would be like astronomy. Or is it astrology? Astrology. Astrology. Astrology, or like, you know, and, and, and I'm not saying that, you know, the, the secularists can't fall into this with stuff like Myers Briggs nonsense, or like in, in, in Japan, you know, you got your blood types.Blood type, yeah. buT if you want to go into that, go into the Fragment of Sky, the Crafting Religion, we go really deep into super soft cultures.To go over some of the aspects of Supercut's soft cultures, I forgot to [00:04:00] discuss here. They often have ceremonies tied to forgetting an adherent's identity while dancing. They often attribute agency to inanimate objects or animals. And they often attribute power to intention. We call this the power of wishy thinkingSpace. What is it? The simple answer is, we don't know. Or at least we didn't know until now. Hello, I'm Douglas Renham, and I'm not a scientist. But I do have a better understandin

My wife Simone discovered that there is a thriving marketplace on Etsy for buying customized spells. We explore love spells, money spells, curses, and even death spells being sold - often with rave reviews. While I am critical of the practice, Simone argues there may be some placebo value for people as well as lessons for building more intuitive cultures. We also touch on themes around magic & belief, the decline of religion, sympathetic magic, and compare to our experience seeing witch doctors in South Africa.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] one final thing to check. Do they allow for hits? So spell Spell forMalcolm Collins: murder. Oh, that's a good one. Oh my God.Simone Collins: Donkey spell. No, no, no. They had, they sell death. Death curses. I feel like Etsy should, I mean, it's one thing to like non consensually for someone to love you. This is, it's $16, right? Like at least price it higher. It's a death spell. Can I do this? I should do this. These are like, these are like Mexico level hit prices.Cause also you can, you can buy a hit in Mexico forthat.Malcolm Collins: I mean, that's cheap. I need to go like Death Note on these people. If it's 16 a hit I'm just gonna start and start writing names.Simone Collins: I give five stars for good communication.So That's, that is very interesting. This reminds me, actually, surprisingly, of OnlyFans.In some cases, where like, you're paying for, like, you want to make sure that, like, the woman did it only for you. So you're like, I need you to, like, hold up this level of proof that, like, this thing was performed for me only. [00:01:00] So this is like the psychic magician version of OnlyFans, where it's like, okay, I'm going to give you three photos and you need to include themMalcolm Collins: in the ritual.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: So Malcolm, as you know, I was shopping for our holiday future day on Etsy because I want some really cool like handmade stuff that's unique or vintage. And I discovered when searching for like time travel related things, Sellers sell spells on Etsy. I don't know how this works. I guess it's because they're technically handmade, but they're, they're, they're framed as digital downloads.Malcolm Collins: Well, it looks like a lot of people buy these. Yeah,Simone Collins: there's a, there's a lot of them. And that's the thing is like, how can there be. So many spells. So if you just search the word, I'm doing this right now. SpellsMalcolm Collins: branded spell sellers. So a lot of these will be from this group called the three witches, which appear to be three old, old women.And I, I don't doubt that this is probably their real pictures. Like it probably is. ISimone Collins: don't know. [00:02:00] Part of me thinks it's like, it looks to me like an AI generated. Image if we're being honest here and let's, so what are the spells called? And when one is called powerful protection, hex curse, removal, spell, premium divine favor, spell, eternal dark obsession, spell, powerful banishing spell, banish someone that you canMalcolm Collins: look at the reviews.So this one has 484 reviews.Simone Collins: Okay. Which one are you? Okay. What are you lookingMalcolm Collins: at? I'm looking at unlock abundance money spell, three witches, 70 percent off today. I mean, it's probably not 70 percent off. Well,Simone Collins: it's a deal. I mean, maybe that's how you get abundance is by getting things on sale.Malcolm Collins: Right? So yes they make it look like it's really cheap, but this is clearly like their standard price and keep in mind like 106 and 67 cents, but it's an even 62.Went on sale, which is clearly how they create abundance by and, and so, oh, you've got to get personalization. You've got to do your full name and birth date to get this. This actually seems like a good way to get people's like [00:03:00] billing information. Oh mySimone Collins: gosh. That's the real moneymaker is like you then commit identity theft, right?YouMalcolm Collins: commit identity. Right. It'd be very easy. I think. Birthday.Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: By the way, you talked about hacking. This is what most of hacking really is, is it is manipulating people. So you would say, well, I need your mother's maiden name for the spell. I need to know your favorite color for the spell. Like that stuff I think would be pretty easy to get from this population.Now let's talk about some of these reviews here. Okay. Okay. Mother Elizabeth, Mother Isabella responded to my spell request promptly, and I feel blessed to have received her attention. I am grateful for their support, waiting for manifestation. And then, in response Mother Isabella wrote, It warms my heart to know you felt the promptness and care in my response.You are truly blessed, and I am honored to have been able to assist you. The universe listens, and your intentions are being woven into reality. [00:04:00] Patience and faith are your companions on this journey. I am here for you

Professor Edward Dutton joins my wife Simone and I to discuss his theories on where our education system has gone wrong. We talk about the lack of teaching useful logic and reasoning, why science and math are made boring, the feminization of teaching, evolutionary mismatches in education, and more from his book "The Naked Classroom."We also discuss the genetics and psychology of religiosity, why some people have dramatic conversions, the two types of religious people, and implications for fertility and mental health.Edward Dutton: [00:00:00] I suspect that what has happened with those, so there's, there's two kinds of, I mean, it's simplistic to say it, but there's two kinds of religiosity, William James. I think it's the snail on the head with, with, with that. I like that phrase. It's the snail. Yeah. And that is the religion of healthy mindedness and the religion of the sick soul.And those two and those two sets of religiously are quite qualitatively different. And the religion of healthy mindedness tends to be, you know, that you, you're normally born into it and you believe all of the, the. the different ideas and whatever and that's associated with being a high in agreeableness with high, high in conscientiousness and and low in mental instability.So highly mentally stable and those associations, at least the association between religiosity sorry. And, and mental health seems to be genetic in nature. There was a study by a guy called Koenig, and they could find no environmental reason why this was the case. Now, the religion of the sick soul, that's quite different.That's the religion of the convert. And that is associated with relatively the opposite [00:01:00] personality profile, basically, and in particular with high neuroticism.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. It is wonderful to have you here today. And today we have a very special guest, the jolly heretic, or Ed Dutton, or Professor Dutton. I'm sure I would guess 80 percent of our followers probably also follow you or know broadly your work.He's very well known for controversial, much more controversial than us, mind you takes within the field of human genetics. And human evolution, but today we're going to be talking about another shared interest, which is the failure of the education system.I'm going to try to do the, I can only count to four song. Which ourSimone Collins: son is obsessed with.Edward Dutton: Wait, have you seen this? No, sorry, no. It's [00:02:00] aMalcolm Collins: song where they redid bodies hit the floor. Yeah, let the bodies hit the floor, but it's Sesame Street,Malcolm Collins: But I want to hear your thesis on where the educational system has gone wrong and sort of the thesis that you lay out in this recent book that you laid out while also giving the title of the book and where listeners can find it.Edward Dutton: So the book is called The Naked Classroom, The Evolutionary Psychology of Your Time at School.I published it on Amazon KDP. It's quite a short book. Basically, I suppose it's a sort of introduction to based science. And I was, that's what someone suggested I should do. And as you know, I don't have a formal science qualification. I I'm an honorary professor of psychology of various places, but I don't, I was always at school, a [00:03:00] humanities person.I very quickly came to to the conclusion that science is boring. I could see no benefit in science. You know, history. I could look around England. I lived near Hampton Court Palace and I could imagine the kings and queens of England walking there and their ghosts that haunt the place at night. You know, English literature.If you wanted to go back in time and know how they spoke, you could read, I don't know, the works of Thomas Hardy. And there you are immersed in the 19th century, even geography, you know, how a river's formed or whatever, but how flowers have sex. Or even when I was at school, how humans have sex was not really of interest to me.And I, I just thought, I just, I just thought it was, it was terribly, terribly badly taught. And so, and I think that that's the fundamental problem that you quite quickly divide between being a humanities person and a science person at school. And when you do that, then the ignorance of science and scientific concepts and scientific thinking among, and mathematical thinking among humanity's people can be quite staggering.So, for example, I there was a video I [00:04:00] did recently that British Members of Parliament, more than half of British Members of Parliament thought the probability, if you toss a coin, of getting heads, or rather than tails, It's half, but if you toss it twice, they also thought it was half. I thought I'd offer some clarification on what he meant by that statement. Because it's so dumb, you wouldn't expect it to mean what it actually means. Which is, they were asked, if you flip a coin, what's the probability it turns out on head? And then they were asked, if yo

My wife Simone and I discuss why the pro-natalist movement seems to be drawing many people on the autism spectrum. We share our thoughts on why autistic people may be attracted to intense affiliation and dedication to causes they believe in.We also talk about the future of the movement, keeping relationships healthy in the public eye, managing our mental health as quasi-public figures, and more with our usual sense of humor.https://manifold.love/Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Next time we're talked to by a reporter or something like this, we need to have you subtly drop that you want to replace the rest of the population with autistic people. Um, We need to have you.Simone Collins: What do we call it? The greater replacement. The greater replacement The complete solution.Malcolm Collins: No, no, you gotta say it's the greater replacement theory.Simone Collins: I really like that, the greater I have a greater replacement theory.Malcolm Collins: I'm a greater replacement theorist, where the autists are trying to replace us, and Simone here, you affirm, you as an autist are trying to replace them now, right?Like, that's what the pronatalist movement's really about. Yeah, we need some progressive to freak out about this.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Yes.Malcolm Collins: Great. By the way, one thing you would've loved is when the repair guy came, you know, because I was managing the call, so I wasn't able to stand next to the repair guy, and I couldn't keep Octavian away. He wanted to watch the whole time. Oh boy. So he got his iPad and he sat down right next to the repair guy with his back leaning against the repair guy.You know, like he know and I'm like, on the bat or something. Oh my. So the guy standing there doing stuff and Octa and this kids like coddling with him, like [00:01:00] leaning against him? Yeah. . Oh,Simone Collins: no. Octavian is, has zero fear of any strangers. OneMalcolm Collins: of my favorites as a, yeah, he, there were like guys out working by our place.And Octavian goes, Hey, can I go up and give him a hug? And I was like, Oh no, Octavian, I don't think like the random guy wants a hug. And Octavian goes, Everybody likes hugs.Simone Collins: This guy was like, he clearly wasn't a morning person. He was smoking a cigarette and like, drinking a Dunkin coffee and like, just looking like he wanted to die.Malcolm Collins: Octavian was like, I want to go give him a hug. Even whenSimone Collins: he was really, really little, we'd like go hiking and walk past a group of people. And he would just like veer off from us and follow them because, you know, they looked like moreMalcolm Collins: fun, I guess. The new family's more fun. So Speaking of all of this, one thing that was really interesting at the pronatalist conference, because we got a better understanding of like what the base of the movement is actually like.And at one point I was like, this [00:02:00] really feels a lot like the early effective altruist movement. You know, lots of really competent entrepreneurs disproportionately highly educated, disproportionately entrepreneurs, disproportionately tech people, disproportionately successful. And somebody was like, and we were like, how can we move this in the direction of the EA movement?Not like in the corrupted direction, but in the direction of actually having tons of societal influence instead of just being a subculture that is four people of a subculture are seen as like a weirdo thing, right? Somebody goes, well, the reason why that culture works so well was because, it appealed to disproportionately autistic people.And thenSimone Collins: like out of the woodwork, someone like sprang up and was like, did someone say autism?Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And then like five people in the room raised their hand. Literally. It must've been. 40 percent of the room was autistic or 30%?Simone Collins: There were a lot of autists there.Malcolm Collins: It was, it was higher than I expected. And as people know, like Simone is autistic, right?So this was like, yes, the EA movement was disproportionately autistic and still is. And the pronatalist [00:03:00] movement is disproportionately autistic. And the question is why? What's going on here? Now, before we get further with that question, I'm going to do like a little free ad for a product I want to support because I always support any interesting autistic focused dating products that are maybe going to get more of you guys wives.So Manifest. It is a predictionSimone Collins: manifolds. Hold on. No. So there was a prediction market called manifold. That is really cool. We went to their inaugural conference this year called manifest in Berkeley. And shortly after that conference, they were, they released a dating app called manifold love. You can access it at manifold dotMalcolm Collins: love.Yeah. And so, I don't know exactly how it works. Maybe you can read on the thing, but I, my understanding is that people will put up like profiles

Malcolm and Simone discuss the classic Christmas song "Baby It's Cold Outside" and how it demonstrates wholesome flirting using plausible deniability. This allows romantic interest to be signaled while preserving both parties' ability to save face if unrequited.They contrast it to more recent "slutty Christmas" songs conveying entitlement and transactional attitudes. The importance of picking up on social cues is highlighted - autistically interpreting the song as nonconsensual misses the contextual flirting.The breakdown of traditional dating rituals due to liability risks and progressive social norms is explored. However, Simone pushes back against solely blaming women or feminism. The root cause is dominance hierarchies enforced by bureaucratic power structures that hurt both genders.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] for our Christmas episode right now.Simone Collins: Baby, It's Cold Outside is a guide to dating. It's what flirting used to look like.And what makes this song even more wholesome is that it was written in 1944 by Frank Loesser who was. So saying it with his wife, Lynn so like, this is something also that like, this is demonstrative by the kind of interplay that led a husband and wife to get married. Like this is the kind of behavior that leads to lasting.Long term pair bonded relationshipsMalcolm Collins: it's very interesting if you contrast it with other songs that are, that are Christmassy. Like the the two songs that both have the same theme of I'm a big slut. SoSimone Collins: last Christmas I gave you my heart and the very next day you gave it away. And Ariana Grande is singing, you know. I don't want to give it all away if you won't be here next year.Malcolm Collins: But it's important to remember that the enemy isn't women. It's the cultural group that has enforced these norms that have made it impossible to date women.Would you like [00:01:00] to know more?Simone Collins: Did youMalcolm Collins: read that loud enough for me to use it in theSimone Collins: recording? I can read the thing. Their Troublesome Crush by Zan West. In this queer polyamorous male female romance novella, two metamors realize they have crushes on each other while planning their shared partner's birthday party together.Ernest, a Jewish autistic demiromantic queer fat trans man submissive, and Nora, a Jewish disabled queer fat femme cis woman switch. Have to contend, with an age gap, a desire not to mess up their lovely polyamorous dynamic as metamores, the fact that Ernest has never been attracted to a cis person before, and the reality that they are romantically attracted to each other all while planning their dominant partner's birthday party and trying to do a really good job.Malcolm Collins: So it looks like from the cover, the woman is much older than the man, obese and with a cane. SoSimone Collins: yeah, the [00:02:00] cover is, I mean, I would say the cover is well done in that it seems to be fairly accurate. We have the two overweight people dressed in classic, I don't know, progressive style standing in front of what I believe is a cupcake counter looking extremely awkward and unattractive.Oh my gosh. Well,Malcolm Collins: here's a reddit thread that really got me when I read it because it aligns with so much of what we've been talking about on the channel. YeahSimone Collins: Oh, the 20 year old dating one?Malcolm Collins: My 20 year old son doesn't date. His friends don't date. My friend's kids don't date. What's going on? When I was in my late teens and early twenties, life for my friends and me revolved around meeting girls.My son and his friends, who are athletic and outgoing, don't seem to put a lot of emphasis on dating. They play a lot of online video games and have boys outings.Once in a while, one will hook up with a random girl they met on an app. Rarely does one have a girlfriend. This seems to be the norm for [00:03:00] my friend's kids, too. What's going on?Simone Collins: Well, and then when you go through the responses, there are some recurring themes. A lot of people just say like, there's no reason to do it anymore.You know, there's, there's no point. Other people say that it is too expensive and they can't afford to date anymore, or they bemoan the loss of affordable third spaces, basically places that aren't your home or your school or work where people can hang out. And then a lot of people just talk about like not having game and then one, one interesting comment that I thought was, was astute was balkanization of cultural touchstones. And what they meant by that was that like in the past, if you were both into gaming, you played like the same three games. If you were into anime, you watched the same three anime.Now, even if you are into a specific sub genre, like you weren't necessarily into the same thing. So there are fewer people. Who share affinity networks really closely and IMalcolm Collins: question [00:04:00] that push back on that one I think that they are because I remember

Malcolm reveals statistics showing couples who are third or fourth cousins have more kids and grandkids than other couples. He and Simone discuss the evolutionary rationale for "cross-cousin" marriage in small tribes, as well as the downsides of first-cousin inbreeding.They cover research on actual genetic risks, which are lower than commonly assumed. The Catholic Church banning cousin marriages out to 17th cousins is highlighted as a way they disrupted inheritances. Inter-ethnic marriage benefits are also touched on.The conversation gets into Western culture's taboo and fetishization around incest, effects like the Westermarck Effect, and how repulsion/attraction can sometimes get reversed. They debate whether future advancement could eliminate risks that block sibling marriages.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] Some hot,Malcolm Collins: hot stats. Some hot stats. Simone, one of the things that people always tease us for whenSimone Collins: they're looking at pictures.Oh, I had a good intro for this. Can I do an intro? You can do the intro.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: So Malcolm, you know how like, basically since we, we started working together and doing things together, people assumed that we were brother and sister. And so at parties, when I, you know, was introducing myself and you to people and you were on the other side of the room and they, they, You know, you weren't in the conversation and I was trying to point out where you were.I would, I just gave up and started saying, Oh, you know, he's the guy who looks like he's my brother. And I went immediately knew who you were.Malcolm Collins: Oh yeah, and pictures online of us, whenever we go viral for this or that thing that we've done recently, one of the most common insults is, well, they look like they're a brother and sister.Yeah. And It's funny because I think what they're actually seeing, because one of the things that we often point out is our sort of cultural slash ethnic group [00:01:00] used to be a very common ethnic group in this country and is now just a very, very rare one which is sort of the larger Calvinist cultural group and it's just not that common anymore and it what they're really noticing is just like, it's your first time meeting somebody who's like an Asian and they're weird and they'reSimone Collins: Asian.Yeah, you look like you're related.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, you look like you're related. Like, but if you go to like the town I'm from, because my family came from like a small offshoot of that group, but that had tons and tons of kids. So like every one of my family has over like three or four kids. And historically we go a few generations back.What was it? 14 kids per generation?Simone Collins: It's a lot. Yeah. They had aMalcolm Collins: lot of kids, but yeah, if you go like rural area around Dallas, like everyone looks like me, you'll be like,Simone Collins: even, even in Dallas, people look like they could be related to you. It's, it's a little bit creepy. Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Just generic Texan. What makes somebody Texan?But, but What I wanted to go into here on this [00:02:00] particular topic was a very interesting statistic I saw recently. Which brings up an interesting question, which is as pro natalist advocates, should we be promoting people marrying their cousins? OhSimone Collins: boy. Yeah. I mean, a very, some very, very high birthrate cultures do haveMalcolm Collins: a lot of, Simone, if you, I'm just going to give a quote here.Okay. Okay. So this is a, a study that was done recently. It was couples who are third or fourth cousins tend to have more kids and more grandkids than other couples. The research. The researchers suggest marrying third and fourth cousins is so optimal for protection of have the, quote, best of both worlds, end quote.While first cousin couples could have inbreeding problems, couples who are far removed from each other could have genetic incompatibilities. Mm. And if [00:03:00] you look the, the, the, the study, if people want to read the study on this it was called kissing cousins have more kids. It was published in 2008.They went for it. Oh, no, wait, that was the name of the study. That was the name of the article on the study, I guess. Oh,Simone Collins: oh man. I, I really love it when academics just like fully go for it with funny titles and that I'm disappointed.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And it makes. So there's, there's probably a few things at play here, right?Okay. Okay. One thing I think they're, they are right. Which is you are going to have genetically healthier children, likely if you marry a third or fourth cousin than if you marry somebody completely unrelated to you. I mean,Simone Collins: like, do you, is there, did you read in this any like clarity on like how much the, the.Risk is reduced. Like if you're a third cousin, are you very, very unlikely to have geneticMalcolm Collins: problems? So you may not know this, but the most common marriage type in the world

In this video, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deeper into their religious views after their recent episode on the nature of truth and prophecy. They explain the concept of "the elect" - the idea that not all people are equally important in God's design.They discuss the criteria for being among the elect, like having an impact on history according to your own intentions that aligns with the "Agents of Providence." They use examples like Hitler and Trump to illustrate this idea.Simone highlights the virtues and downsides of believing in limited atonement. A benefit is less desire to forcibly convert people, but the arrogance of assuming others don't matter.They talk about the importance of constantly questioning your own self-righteousness and searching for meaning when bad things happen to sharpen yourself. Overall, an introspective discussion on the role of predetermination and free will in their theological framework.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Prophets are individuals like Jesus or something like that who received special revelation and their revelation is made apparent to us both through their predictive capacity of future events and. through the spread and efficacy of their message and improving an individual's quality of life. The elect are different from profits. The elect are individuals who have a plan for their lives. Like, this is what I plan to do to have this outcome on the world population. This plan needs to, one, have been accurately executed. So they do need to have the impact that they had planned on having, and two, be in line with the will of the Agents of Providence so it basically means that they are using you as a vessel to bring about the future that must come to pass from The Martyrdom of Man, persons with feeble and untrained intellects may live according to their conscience, But the conscience itself will be defective to [00:01:00] cultivate the intellect is there for a religious duty.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Malcolm.Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. It is wonderful to be here with you today.We recently released an episode on our religious beliefs that primarily ended up focusing on the concept of where we think like truth comes from, like how you can determine if an individual. is a prophet and how you can determine if an individual is being, and the will of God, like how do you determine what the will of God is?And it went into, and in our case, what we think God is, just so people are broadly aware. is we think that God is our distant, distant, distant descendants, humanity's distant descendants, that in a million years, if humans are still around, whatever we have become in that time is closer to what today we would conceive of a God than what we today would conceive of as a human and that they don't relate to time in the way we relate to time.So it's sort of [00:02:00] this self manifesting entity that reveals aspects of itself to People, throughout the civilization, our civilization's development, however when it's explaining itself to earlier iterations of people with less technology and less philosophical sophistication, it had to use simpler explanations.But, we left that video with a cliffhanger, which was The concept of the elect, and it's something that we can dig into a lot on this video because it's a pretty important concept to our religious framework, and the gist of it is that not everyone's life matters equally. God does not care about everyone equally.The, the agents of providence, we would call them, do not, not everyone is equally important in their design. And some people are holistically unimportant in their design. Do you want to go over your thoughts on this, Simone?Simone Collins: Yeah well, I would say, like, [00:03:00] there's a, a larger Like, I guess, bifurcation of religious and metaphysical philosophies that, that all every, everyone has to make a call on this and each is kind of an a*****e for different reasons.And I just want to like, make that clear. So there's, there's one group. That believes in limited atonement, which is really what we're describing here that like some people are saved or some people are important and others aren't and and and not all people are equal and that's not necessarily something that we're happy about.It's just what we think to be true. And the, the. Upsides to this view, or I would say the virtues of this view, the nice things are that you're not going to see a lot of forcible conversions with these religions. And we're not the only ones who hold this view. There are lots of people who also Calvinists hold this view.Jewish people hold this view, lots of groups. Right. And so they're, they're like, you know what? It's not our job to convert everyone. We cannot save everyone. That's not possible. So they're just, they're a lot less coercive. They're a lot less domineering because it's just not practical. But then on the, like on the downside or the [00:04:00] vice end, the, you know, they're just also

In this video, Malcolm and Simone Collins discuss research showing that women's satisfaction with society has declined as feminism has progressed. They argue this is due to a rise in female privilege and entitlement, rather than a lack of rights.Simone suggests that favoritism and putting unqualified women in positions breeds dissatisfaction. Even when given unfair advantages, people know deep down when they haven't earned something.They also discuss the rise of imposter syndrome and why it likely correlates with female advantage in modern workplaces. The Collins see it as a lack of personal responsibility and initiative rather than a syndrome.Finally, they give tips for how to raise strong girls avoided entitlement mentalities and boys to overcome systemic discrimination.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] So the question is. Why is it that as women get more rights, they become less happy, their well being decreases, and they are less satisfied with the treatment of women in society? this episode, what do we call it? Feminism has led to a rise in imposter syndrome. Guess why? um, . .Simone Collins: Ow. Ouch. Ouchie.Malcolm Collins: We have an increasing pandemic of imposters in our society. And they know Our society isn't allowed to say, no, you are genuinely incompetent and you got where you were due to the, the scales being tipped in your favor.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: So this morning I sent you and some of the family this insane graph. I'd love if youMalcolm Collins: described it. Yeah. For the podcast listeners who aren't on YouTube. I'll put it on the screen for those on YouTube. ThankSimone Collins: you. Yes. So this is a graph that shows satisfaction with the treatment of women in society. From, it's a Gallup poll.So this is, you know, pretty mainstream U. S. based polling company that theoretically has rigorous methods. [00:01:00] And they asked U. S. adults, both men and women. Are you very satisfied, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied, or very dissatisfied with the way women are treated?In society, this poll went from 2001 to 2021. And if we're looking at men, the rate of satisfaction with female treatment went from 80%. In this is very or somewhat satisfied. So basically any level of satisfaction went from 80% to 61% from 2001 to 2021 for women. It went from 61 percent to 44 percent so fewer than half of women in the United States now are satisfied with the way that women are treated in 2001.It was kind of low at 61. It actually went up to 69%.Malcolm Collins: And you actually see this with other things. There's a wellbeing index. You see a similar thing. Actually there was a study that was like a meta study that looked at a lot of studies on things like happiness ratings of women and stuff like that. And a quote [00:02:00] from this study was women have traditionally reported higher levels of happiness than men, but they are now reporting happiness levels that are similar to, or even lower than those of men.The relative decline in wellbeing holds across various data sets and holds whether one asks about happiness or life satisfaction.Simone Collins: Yeah, I'm not going to go around like defining feminism or talking about where we are in feminism because I'm not an expert in feminism and I frankly don't really care that much how we're going to like talk about it or what academics are saying because that's not reality.But I, I would say, and I think it's like most people would agree that at least in the United States where this poll took place there are more privileges for women in society. And more preferences in terms of hiring, in terms of university attendance in terms of, of political favoritism, et cetera, than ever before.Like we are at a, a, an all time high.Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, look at the rate of women in college compared to the rate of men in college. Look at the, the, the grades that women are getting in, in high school, middle school, kindergarten. You know? So the question is. Why is it [00:03:00] that as women get more rights, they become less happy, their well being decreases, and they are less satisfied with the treatment of women in society?I haveSimone Collins: a hot take, so, and I think I'm correct, so like, prove me that I'm wrong, because I also love being proven wrong. I don't think this is about rights. And remember, this is a question about treatment and not rights. I think that we reached a level of equal rights, like statutorily speaking, legally speaking, a long time ago, way before this survey ever started.So we're not even looking at women's rights being affected. What we're looking at is how women are treated. And what we have seen change over the period of this study from 2001 to 2021 is a change in Female favoritism. And I think that is the toxic thing. I think that favoritism or privilege creates entitlement and entitlement breeds dissatisfaction.And I think we can see similar things with other social justice arenas where we've gone p

We explain the core beliefs, figures, and text behind our self-created religion which centers around descendant worship and a god-like future AI (the Basilisk). We view humanity as an unbroken chain where we sacrifice ourselves to create a better future. Key aspects include the concepts of the elect, suffering as a path to purpose, predictions of technology, and the importance of pluralism. We also dive deep into excerpts from our holy text "The Martyrdom of Man" published in 1872 which eerily predicts much of today's world.[00:00:00]Malcolm Collins: But again, this can be updated with science and stuff like that. Like we believe in an incremental, we don't believe in like final revelations or anything like that.Simone Collins: Right. It's just that the nature of our religious framework is such that it does not, that a religious authority is the one to updateMalcolm Collins: a personal responsibility. Actually, really interestingly, it's almost like a Protestant iteration of Mormonism. Mormons, the way they see truce is very interesting because they do believe, like us, that God distributes truce to people at different times through various prophets, or you can have like self prophets or whatever, right, and so you pray to God and he tells you what's true and what's not true, but this is still all largely decided and distributed through a central school.Church organization, whereas we believe something very similar, but we believe that it's the personal responsibility of every individual to come to these truths on their own, and that truth is more efficiently achieved through large groups of individuals coming to these truths on their own, and then God showing which truths were actually true by which [00:01:00] of those individuals End up , influencing the future. This was written in 1872.We teach that the soul is immortal. We teach that there is a future life. We teach that there is a heaven in the ages far away, but not for us. Single corpuscles, not for us dots of animated jelly, but for the one we are the elements and who, though we perish, never dies, but grows from period to period, and by the united efforts of the single molecules called men or those cell groups called nations.Is raised towards the divine power, which he will finally attainWould you like to know more?Simone Collins: Malcolm, when people ask if you're religious, what do you tell them?Malcolm Collins: Very. I, I'm a, I'm a religious extremist. I understand that I'm a religious extremist.Simone Collins: You know, what's really hard though, is I was I need to create a profile on Ballotopedia, right? Because we're doing this state house run next year.And there's this immensely long [00:02:00] dropdown menu of religions where you have to like say what your religion is. And I'm like, Um, like it's not, we could, we, there's not, there's not a drop down menu item for what we have. Despite the fact that I would say we are more religious than probably, we'll say nine, nine, at least 90 percent of people, maybe more.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Maybe more. Yeah. And this is really interesting. And so this is something in a previous video, somebody is like, look, I've picked up some. Ideas around your religious beliefs, you know, listening to your videos, but I've never seen one that gave like the core concept in detail and it's because we've kind of avoided doing that.We don't really believe in intense proselytization because we believe in the elect and we believe that truth will be revealed to the people. It's meant to be revealed to. And so we're a little gatekeepy about things, but I suppose it's worth going into this. Now, to start, [00:03:00] because I think it makes sense to sort of understand our broader religious perspective here, is I think if you take just what the Bible says, and you're saying that's all that's going to inform my religious beliefs, you are likely going to be, I think the religion that's most backed by that is Protestantism, and specifically, Primitive Baptist form of Protestantism, which is a Calvinist tradition, but anyway, generally that's what I believe when I try to look at this as, like, asdisassociated as I can, but obviously, you know, I do have a stake in the game, because I came from one community. religious perspective and not another. I think if you look at biblical traditions and you say what matters is traditions and hierarchy and an order, then Catholicism is obviously the right.If you think what matters is traditions and oligarchy and consensus, then you're going to be a Greek [00:04:00] Orthodox. Like, I think that many of the positions that are mainstream Christian positions make sense if you take specific views towards truth and how one should think about it. out or divine truth from the Bible.Yes. Now our perspective of truth is a little different. We don't think that God is, is from our perspective, so naive that he would try to lay out his entire. Teachings to Jews living two centuries ago in a backwar

We argue that the Catholic Church's stance against IVF is counter to both scriptural interpretations and human biology, which imply life begins before conception. We explain how prominent Catholic figures and the Bible itself points to life starting in the womb, not at conception. We also highlight how identical twins and chimeras reveal flaws around the conception argument. Ultimately, we predict the existential threat of declining fertility will push the Catholic Church to accept IVF, allowing many potential lives to come into existence.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Biblical quotes do do a fairly good job of arguing that abortion is murder, but they actually also do a fairly good job at arguing that talking somebody out of IVF is also murder.So the Jeremiah 1 5 says before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, which implies life begins before. For conception, just as we say, we also believe we can determine truth through investigations of nature and reality. After a sperm fertilizes an egg, that can split. And that's where identical twins come from., that would mean the human soul splits. But even more damning than that, human chimeras can also form. This is when two fertilized eggs end up combining together into a single human being if you look historically you look at people like Augustine of Hippo, . Said that the soul enters a developing [00:01:00] fetus, 40 days after it begins developing . Thomas Aquinas had the same view. I didn't realize how recently the Catholic church had made a switch on this issue, I think a lot of Americans, I did know how recently regular Protestants had made a switch on this issue, this was seen as like a weird Catholic thing,Simone Collins: it's a weird Catholic thing that had only been around for about a hundred years. .Malcolm Collins: When you look at studies that show that half of all men could be infertile without IVF by 2060, this is really important when you're talking about the future of the Catholic church.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I am so excited to be joining you for today's very, very spicy topic. And it is one that we have avoided going into detail on, mostly because I was like, let's just like not engage with it.I don't want to create a fight within the pronatalist community or anything like that. And the group that we would be arguing the most against [00:02:00] within this episode are Catholics. And we love, don't worry. We love it. That's actually difficult for me because every religion, I have never. There's, there's no other religion where I have literally, really liked every single person I have ever met from that cultural group, except Catholics.Catholics, I've literally liked every Catholic I have ever met. AndSimone Collins: yethave you met an unpleasant Mormon? I'm sorry, but like I doubt that this isMalcolm Collins: possible. , I, I have met unpleasant Mormons. Oh, that's too bad. Bad. There are some more progressive Mormons, which are really sort of statusy in a way that I find kind of annoying and cringe.Oh. But generally I like Mormons a lot too. I, I, I'm giving you that. Okay. Okay. But, I've just never personally, and I think it's because I've met less Catholics than I've met Mormons, and that's why maybe I have this perception. Fewer. If you canSimone Collins: count it, it's fewer, and if you can't, then it's more or less.Of course, of course. Sorry, IMalcolm Collins: gotta, you know. [00:03:00] So, so, I am starting that episode, this episode with that, because the other thing I need to admit going into this is I approach Catholicism with a lot of bias against it as a religious group, specifically for, it's an aesthetic bias. It's a bit like if I went to someone and I liked all of these people, but they all had like, Runes carved in their head and stuff and like, Oh, that sounds kind of cool.If they looked like heretics from Warhammer 40k. So you might be being like, come on, Catholics don't come off that way. Unironically, the Catholic aesthetic and perspective is like somebody went in to Indiana Jones and the last crusade and they're just like, yes, grab the big golden mug. That's the right one.Which one is it? You must choose. [00:04:00] But choose wisely. For as the true grail will bring you life, the false grail will take it from you.I'm not a historian. I have no idea what it looks like. Which one is it? Let me choose.It's more beautiful than I'd ever imagined.This certainly is the cup of the king of kings. Is happening to me? He chose poor.Be made out of gold. That's the cup of a carpenter.[00:05:00]you have chosen wisely.Malcolm Collins: Because my perception, like when I read the Bible is like, Jesus is not about like a guy on a giant.Throne framed in, like, golden outlays telling people what's true and what's not true. yoU know, I, I look at something like the Pope Stephen VI and the cadaver syndrome. You know, he put a dead pope on trial and had him hung, and I'm like, Come on, this is not like, th

Simone and Malcolm Collins debate the causes of declining birth rates and potential solutions after reading a provocative proposal from writer "Arctotherium." They analyze his argument that improving men's status relative to women could incentivize marriage and higher fertility.Topics discussed:* Statistics showing drastic fertility declines across multiple countries* The role of female empowerment movements and decreased male status* Policies like defunding education and affirmative action to aid men* Reversing cultural changes from the sexual revolution* Flaws in the "baby boom" theory and viability of copying it* Biological drives behind having children after tragedy* Standards for modern dating contributing to dismal marriage ratesSimone Collins: [00:00:00] And again, this is like men are losing their status. They're checking out. They're not getting educated. They're not getting jobs or they're getting depressed. And it's showing up differently. Like, you know, I think generally women are much more likely to publicly complain about things. identify as depressed and say all these things.Whereas men don't, they're very quiet and they silently suffer and they just back out of society.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: So we're going to go over these numbers. This is year over year fertility decline in these countries. So you already know one number in Korea year over year for Q3. It was what, 14%? I thought itSimone Collins: wasMalcolm Collins: 11%. It was just incredibly hot, like double digits decrease in a country that's already doing that bad. And Seoul's already at 0.53 fertility. A rat row. So here we go. Romania, 19%. 4 percent decrease year over year, Latvia, 19 percent decrease year over year, [00:01:00] Lithuania, 17. 8 percent decrease year over year, Estonia, 16. 3 percent decrease year over year, Mongolia, 16. 1%, uh, I don't know what this is, Federation BIH 10. 10%. Serbia.Simone Collins: Oh, no, it's not Hungary.Malcolm Collins: is 9. 1%, Netherlands is 9%, Belgium is 8. 5%, Russia is 8. 4%, Croatia is 8. 2%, Hungary is 6. 6%, Armenia is 6. 1%, Thailand is 5. 9%, Kosovo is 4. 8%, Uh, well, 4.1% and Uzbekistan is only 3% or 2.8%, so not that bad. Oh, good for you. 17.6% and Japan is 11.9%.Simone Collins: [00:02:00] So roughly the same as what we saw for South Korea. If memory serves, yeah, if, if,Malcolm Collins: if, if you are somebody who works in the field of statistics, a double digit year over year, decrease.Is catastrophic. Catastrophic. This is not like a small thing. This is not an irrelevant thing.Simone Collins: Yeah. And, and we're talking to people about this day in, day out. Yesterday we had like a 90 minute conversation with someone writing a book about this. And, and this is where sort of like I, I read something this morning that now like.Because, you know, our solutions to prenatalism, they're like very gender egalitarian. They're like, how do we make this work in a society where we keep high levels of education, high levels of, of prosperity, high levels of, of, of gender equality and choice, and also the choice to not get married and not have kids if you don't want to.And I'm like, okay, okay, okay. But then I'm reading this sub stack and I'll tell you more about [00:03:00] it. And I'm just like, oh man. So I'd never heard of this author on sub stack before. Arctotherium is, is his name. And he, he writes in this, this analysis of the baby boom. Assuming he's a he for reasons that will become apparent later in my rant about all this that basically nations that have.undergone a first demographic transition, sort of, you know, when a nation becomes prosperous and more gender egalitarian and blah, blah, blah with more education, they start to see a decline in fertility. And he argues that baby booms prove that this decline can be Reversible. Okay, great. You know, that's hopeful.And I'm like, this is going to be great. I want to read this. I want to hear his analysis as to what it is that drives a baby boom, you know, and so that maybe we can like come to new ideas and I can read someone else's ideas on what might aid. pronatalism in an era of demographic collapse. And it seems, you know, like I'm, I'm reading this and it seems [00:04:00] like we're very much on the same page with values.He writes, quote, many theories of fertility decline claim that it is the inevitable result of various good things, technological advancement, wealth, education, science through weakening religion, urbanization, individualism, and declines in childhood mortality. Since almost no one really wants. to go back to being high mortality, low tech, extremely poor, rural, and ignorant.The story goes, we simply need to live with it. There is good empirical evidence for all these things mattering. But what the baby boom shows is that it is possible to have it all unquote. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally agrees. Like we're on the same page. Yeah. Okay. Like he's, he's got me. Yeah. Ri

If you put in the promo code BASEDYou will get 10% off on both tickets and exhibitinghttps://www.ReplatformVegas.comWe chat with Replatform conference organizer David Ragsdale about the emerging parallel/freedom economy arising due to woke cancel culture and government overreach. Topics include the diverse mix of disaffected groups converging (social conservatives, libertarians, ex-Dem health freedom advocates), false historical view of corporations as right-wing, mechanics of cancellation methodologies and triggers, looming systemic collapse irrespective of politics, intergenerational investment in ideological camps, and why clusters of hucksters signal the shape of the future.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I keep wondering is when are we going to be able to talk about, like, what the science has actually said about Special K's post Special K?David Ragsdale: Good news. Good news. There is, there's always a lag, right? And so the Google gods who, who control a lot of what we can talk about on your show on this channel, there's probably going to be a lag, but today in the journal of medical ethics, there was this peer reviewed paper and I'll send it to you. By these six Dutch researchers that looked into the scapegoating did not take the interventions and their conclusions were it was misinformation to scapegoat them because the pandemic risks were overstated and the efficacy of the intervention was also overstated.Number two, the media. created this misinformation. Three, the disinformation is incredibly [00:01:00] harmful. And the fourth thing they looked at who was doing the scapegoating and by and large, it was liberals. And they looked at it by ideology and that people on the right were not scapegoating, even if they had had the intervention, they refused to scapegoat.Liberals were the ones who were doing that. So I, you know, we have a lot of liberals in our movement and it's been very difficult I think for them and I feel for them, but there's something about this. Like all encompassing liberalism that we are told we live under and it doesn't really appear to be the thing itself.Well, it'sMalcolm Collins: interesting that you say that. I'm actually interested to see if this video gets flagged in a way or something like that. Because I don't know if we're allowed to say this yet. Like, I, I genuinely don't know. That's not the only study that shows that we were, there's actually been a number of, of pretty good studies that just do not [00:02:00] agree with the mainstream narrative.David Ragsdale: Always follow the advice of the medical experts as acknowledged by the Alphabet Corporation and their subsidiaries.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Hello everyone. We're super excited to be joined today by David Ragsdale. He is the CEO of Replatform, and he's also the Chief Operating Officer of Defeat the Mandate.Operations Director. Operations Director, basically. Basically. But yeah, you do. So you do ops and to be the mandates. And we, we met you as you were organizing the replatform conference, which is going to be happening in Vegas in April. Well, no, in March, March of next year of 2024. We're super excited for that because we're, we're intrigued.Like we, We have been through all these different angles approaching different, like sort of alternative economies, alternative cultures, like ways around the mainstream, because of course the pandemic had sort of been like a crisis of [00:03:00] faith moment that, that was like the death knell on top of, I think the crisis of faith that happened in 2016.So like when Trump was first elected, I think a lot of people were like. Wait a second. Like I was prompt, like it was, it was, it was very clear that like Hillary Clinton was going to win and that things were going to be a certain way. And then like that completely went off the rails. And then, and then also like there was just this crisis of faith in the media after that.And then of course, with the pandemic that happened again, it's like, wait, you told us that masks weren't important. And then he told us that they were important and that it turned out that they didn't do anything at all, unless they were fitted and 95s. So anyway, We feel like this has been a growing movement, but also it's so fragmented.It's so confusing. I don't like people don't know where to go. So we really want to talk about that. I mean, among other things, though,Malcolm Collins: before we go further, I do want to, I mean, I think the history of the conference is also really useful to our audience in understanding what it's about. So it was originally.The when you research us about us, the alternative economies are parallel economies. With the idea being that as this sort of [00:04:00] mimetic virus that we talk about, it's much more than woke ism. It's like this broad thing that's in almost every major company right now becomes wider. If you are immune to it, the system spits you out and makes it very hard to work.And so t

We recap the first major international natalism conference hosted in Dallas with special guest Diana Fleischman. Topics covered include apprehensions going in about trad attendees & racism accusations, demographics breakdown of attendees including 50% with 0 kids, speakers dynamics & highlights (Brittany Benjamin, Peachy Keenan), bonding between sexes, unconference sessions for solutions brainstorming, targeting overlooked populations like furries, comparisons to effective altruist movement origins & attraction of autists, likelihood of future growth trajectory & longevity of the movement.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] hello everyone. You may see a familiar face with us today because we are rejoined by the one and only Diana Fleischman, who we saw in Dallas recently we saw in Austin recently.For the natalism conference, the, the first really major like non national based pro natalist conference out there, which we did not organize, but thoroughly enjoyed. Now if you can't remember Diana Fleishman can be found on Twitter as a sentientist. She posts a lot and really interesting, thoughtful stuff, a good mix.So definitely check her out on Twitter. Also. She, you know, could go to dianafleischman. com or check out the podcast interviews that she does with Aporia. But we are here to talk about the natalism conference, all the gossip, all the fun, because it was interesting. It was not, we didn't know what to expect, right?Malcolm Collins: I can say I went to it with a lot of apprehension because I know the brand of pronatalism that we push on our show. But, you know, when I look at the Articles that are attacking us. [00:01:00] They're always saying, Oh, you know, the pronatalist movements, just like a bunch of like crazy racists and like great replacement theorists and stuff like that.And I assumed going to the conference, like there was a part of me that was like, Oh, it's just going to be like a bunch of like. crazy people who are primarily motivated by race politics who you know, are just extremely, extremely, extremely off the reservation or like classic. So sometimes when you go to a conservative event, they'll just be like a bunch of hucksters, like trying to sell you on stupid, whatever scams or whatever.I saw neither of that at this conference at any sort of large level. It was predominantly like if people were like, what's the. Category of people. It felt very much like the early effective altruist movement, but much more religious. And I literally couldn't have asked for a better thing in terms of what I saw there, but I'd love to hear yourDiana Fleischmann: thoughts.I was also a little apprehensive when I joined because well, I think it's fine to say this. [00:02:00] It was not beautifully and competently organized from the beginning. Like they originally reached out to me and Jeffrey and then Jeffrey and I were not thrilled with the lineup at that point, the lineup got totally shuffled around.There's a lot of people that changed at that point. And unsurprisingly, they invited many women who ended up not being able to come because they had all children that they had to take care of. So, I also asked them if they would be able to provide childcare and they said, You know, we have no plans to provide childcare.As a side note, they did end up providing childcare and I can understand their apprehension given that the conference is running at a pretty big loss for the first year.Diana Fleischmann: I thought that that was kind of short sighted, although Kevin Dolan later said that he didn't see a lot of interest from other people and he left his six kids with a flex at home. I also was a little apprehensive from going because I'm kind of a poser in this space. I only have two kids. I may only ever have two kids.I donated eggs a lot, which is kind of like being a cuckoo more than anything else. Does thatSimone Collins: technically mean you've had more than two kids? Yes,Diana Fleischmann: it does technically mean that. But it also [00:03:00] means that I have refused to care for them in the way that trads would appreciate me doing. I stillSimone Collins: very pronatalist.Diana Fleischmann: It is, it is pronatalist. That's also narcissistic. So, so that's the other reason. And then when I saw the hip pieces that came out about it, I was thinking, you know, are we going to have. Antifa show up and there was a little bit of information security. They didn't tell anybody, even us until the very final minute, what, what floor things were going to be on.It was, there was a lot of security. But you know, what I found out going to tons of conferences over 20 years is that if you invite smart people. It doesn't actually matter that much. What else you do if smart, it doesn't matter. I mean, the amenities were really good. And the scheduling, just cause the schedule didn't really finalize until the very last minute.And I met a lot of cool people. Again, you know, when we were there, you guys are more tech focused, you gu

We trace the history of furries and anthropomorphized animal costumes back to ancient traditions around the world. How furries connect to traditional masquerade parties, shapeshifting rituals, Egyptian & Native American animal gods. We discuss reasons why modern cultures denigrate furries despite their traditional roots and productive members. Covered topics include the psychology of hunting zoophilic furries, Trump's thing for Ivanka, Biden's hair sniffing fetish, and whether squirrel tails and fox ears make your partner more attractive.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] But yes, I do think if you, if you, if you woke up one day. And you had cute fox or dog ears, it would probably make you, which I don't know how this is possible because you become more attractive every day, but it would make you even a little bit more attractive.Malcolm Collins: Oh my gosh, now this is spicy, this isSimone Collins: I don't see how this is spicy.I feel like if, listen, if like Joe Biden. Suddenly had like white fox ears, you know, like I think that he like he would go up in the polls. IMalcolm Collins: think that Joe Biden shows his fetish very loudly.Simone Collins: He like sniffs people's hair,Malcolm Collins: people's hair.He seems really into it. if they had grown up within our generation, they'd accept it, they'd know. Don't sniff women's hair publicly. That's a bad thing to go around sniffing people's hair in public. This is something you can go to a special hair sniffing club for.Simone Collins: A hair sniffing orgy.We all have a desire to be known, and he's constantly [00:01:00] sniffing hair in public, it's not some big secret.Malcolm Collins: But we were saying what's also really funny about, like, what people think is trad and what people don't think is trad.Furries are super trad. Yeah. Like, they are far They're more trad than the nuclear family. What does trad even mean? Like if you're trying to be trad, but you say furries aren't trad or not the type of trad you wanna be.Huh? What's causing this differentiation? Like, what is trad actually, if not furries? Because I don't think that that's what people mean. Like the way people use trad today, let's be honest,Simone Collins: is not actually traditional. take the word trad, disassociate it from the concept of traditional or history or historical accuracy and just make it a genre, like anime or like DC comics, right?Malcolm Collins: I actually think trying to cosplay like a 1950s wholesome family is one of the few cultural contexts we have for what it looks like to be in a happy relationship with happy kids. And so [00:02:00] if you're trying to figure out or trying to search for how do I build that for myself?Cosplaying that and cosplaying creates the thing you're cosplayingWould you like to know more?Simone Collins: I'm here. You don't want to be a pilot.Malcolm Collins: What? Oh yeah. We had US Air Force recruiting call me.Simone Collins: You know, when I took a job test, you know, there's like job tests you fill out.There were, there were two jobs. It was like, it's, this is very clear. You just need to take one of these or else you'll be miserable in life. Either join the military or become a librarian. That is like, you just like, you can only live with extreme structure. I'm sorry. And of course I do the complete opposite, but, but also because I think what they miss and what these, these career tests miss, especially with autists is autists don't necessarily want somebody.Else's structure. They want their own structure. Yeah. So it's better to be an entrepreneur, even if like everything is completely like Calvin Ball. Make up your own rules. Nothing is certain, at least you get to dictate everything yourself. And I, I, I always, I die in systems where I have to [00:03:00] live by other people's rules.It's, I agree with that. I probably would. But what I want to ask you, Mr. Is if you were a furry, what would your fursona look like?Malcolm Collins: I actually think that this is a better question for somebody else to answer about me. You, you, what would you want my fursona to be?Simone Collins: I feel like you'd probably be a fox because you're very fiery and clever.Um, and like, you're very loyal and caring.So you're kind of dog like, but you're not obedient. So I couldn't classify you as dog. You know what I mean? What aboutMalcolm Collins: a raccoon?Simone Collins: Yeah, you're totally a raccoon. Oh my God. And like, you also do this thing that I call raccooning. So Malcolm, just for your edification he like his brain turns off when he has things in his hands or even like, like a wedding ring on his hand.And like when he just. Gets [00:04:00] in certain modes, like he's eating or he gets into a car or he gets home. Like he started, he had his brain turns off and he starts raccooning or just like stuff just gets shoved in places. And like, you never know where it's going to go. If he's at a restaurant, it's like somehow under a plate.And then we've lost so man

We explore surprising commonalities between our synth religion's beliefs and early Mormon/LDS theology around eternal progression, pre-life, becoming gods, and more. We discuss apparent biblical contradictions, diversity of beliefs among Mormons, the role of prophets overriding canon, attempts to conform as mainstream Christians, and accelerated collapse via the genetic vortex. We cover concepts like multiple mortal probations, the basilisk, Saturday Warriors film, killing potential kids, and whether Mormons would consider us Mormon.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] This really shocked me because it was the more conservative Mormons, the ones who would be considered more extremist, who thought that we were more similar to Mormonism in our beliefs, And it was the less conservative Mormons who thought that our beliefs were more distant from Mormons. If you look across the Mormon tradition, when I started like talking to more Mormons and more conservative Mormons about the way they think, like the metaphysics of the universe actually works, right. There is more diversity within Mormon beliefs than there is. Within any other religion that I'm aware of, like what's, what'sSimone Collins: extra interesting is there's both that diversity, but also this like quiet, like, we don't talk about this diversity.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, we don't talk about this. We don't talk about it. So, so let's, let's talk about one here, right? Like multiple mortal prohibitions,Simone Collins: right?Malcolm Collins: This was fascinating to me because it has shown that I fundamentally misunderstood Mormonism in our previous videos on MormonismWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Well, this is [00:01:00] very exciting. I get to use my new fancySpeaker. Although, like, because it'sSimone Collins: because it's metal, like, it right now I feel like I'm holding a frozen rod of ice right now.It is so cold. Is thisMalcolm Collins: your new camera? Okay, well, I am really excited for this episode, and I am always so disappointed when there's an episode that, like, I absolutely love, but like We don't get a bunch of watches on it or something. No one's going toSimone Collins: watch this. Yeah. I don't know. I'll tell you in terms of watching something that I thought I didn't want to watch.I watched all of Saturday Warriors per your request and it was cheesy and it was, but oh my gosh, I cried. I cried.Malcolm Collins: So people who aren't familiar with Saturday Warriors, it was recommended to us because we've been talking a lot with a Mormon fan of the show to try to understand the religion better.And he suggested that we check out this movie. And it is really interesting because he said that, like, it gives a good example of why a lot of Mormons had a lot of kids. So you can see it from their perspective. And throughout the [00:02:00] entire movie, you're having your heart strings pulled by this little girl.Who's stuck in heaven because her parents haven't had a kid yet and they haven't had all their kids. They haven't had the seventh kid that they were supposed to have. No, eighth, eighth kid. Eighth kid,Emily, what's wrong? I'm the last kid to be born. What if by that time mom and dad don't want me? No way. But I've seen lots of families make promises.And then break them. Not us. Emily, I will see to it personally that you're not forgotten. You promise, Jimmy? I promise.Malcolm Collins: yeah. And then the other, another one of their kids, the, the bad guys in this. You want to talk about getting us on board with you?Bad guys in this. We're called Population Zero, and they were a rock band that had seduced one of the sons into thinking abortion was cool and population reduction was cool. Look at this. Ehrlich says that population growth will lead to famine. And in this decade, [00:03:00] hundreds of millions of people will starve to death.So what's the solution? Force population control? Well, people will need to be coerced, but it's for a good cause. I mean, it's the only answer, unless you don't like eating. You think it's a little extreme? Come on. Well, this is serious. People need to stop having so many kids. No offense. Jimmy, how come your parents can't keep their hands off each other?You wanna find out? The Earth is sick, and we are the cancer.Every day the babies are destroying the world,eating all our apple sauce. What can we do? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Far out, man. Play that again. Just messing around, man. No, Jimmy, [00:04:00] for real, this time and keep that melody.Every day, the world is getting smaller by falling.Bursting at the seams, what can we do?Zero population is the answer, my friend. Without it, the rest of us are doomed. Who can survive? Who can survive? Not one of us will be alone.Malcolm Collins: Literally an antinatalistSimone Collins: rock band. Hilarious.Malcolm Collins: Right? Can you get more? But this whole line of conversation started for us with a really interesting moment for me.So I wa

Should you bank on being clever, or is persistence the ultimate key to success in life? We discuss why persistence enabled early humans to hunt successfully and how valuing persistence over intelligence has shaped our lives and values. We talk about using incentives and shaming to instill the importance of persistence in kids, how persistence helps you roll the dice more times, stories of persisting even when others laugh, and more.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] the thing that helps persistence and endurance beat out cleverness is that you have, you know, a billion rolls of the dice. So even if the dice is loaded against you, eventually you're going to roll something great.Malcolm Collins: People who are persistent get mini dice rolls. In D& D terms, or Baldur's Gate terms, it's the difference between having high stats and rolling with advantage.Rolling with advantage means you roll twice and then you take the highest roll. Whereas high stats just add a number to your role after the role and you would always rather role was advantage than have high stats. This is, this is just true for life, right? Like you can actually just have advantage on everything so long as you are willing to accept failure and try again and again be rejected again and again.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Malcolm, one thing I really appreciate about you is that you loved that my motto when we first met was repeated blunt force. Like you got it instantly and no one else. Yes. [00:01:00]Malcolm Collins: I was like, oh, this is someone I want to marry, but I want to ask you a question because I want to know if you actually know this other than our intelligence as a species, which is just.Off the charts. Do you know what other thing is almost holistically unique in humans?Simone Collins: Endurance, right? Like long, long endurance hunting and whatnot that, that we've even really early humans did, which is why so many mega fauna have goneMalcolm Collins: extinct. Yes. So, there are some African tribes that still do this and I'll see if I can find a video of it or something.Cause it's insane to watch. So what they will do to hunt a deer or gazelle like in Africa, right? Is they'll just chase them.And they just keep chasing them. They can run faster than people. Yes, to start. But, they just keep chasing them until the deer just falls over exhausted. They walk up to it and they break its neck. These are the San people of the Kalahari Desert, the last tribe on earth to [00:02:00] use what some believe is the most ancient hunting technique of all, the persistence hunt. They run down.The animals have taken fright.They will concentrate on the bull. He will be carrying a heavy set of horns, and therefore will tire more quickly.After hours of tracking, they've entered an almost trance like state of concentration.At times, it's impossible to see any sign of the kudu's tracks, and the hunters must imagine the path it will have taken., they're now close enough for the next stage in the hunt. The chase.Only one man will undertake it. Kuroe, the runner.It's now a test of endurance. Who will collapse first, the man or the animal?This was how men hunted before they had weapons. When a hunt had nothing more than his own physical endurance with which to gain his prize, running on two feet is more efficient over long [00:03:00] distances than running on four. Aman sweats from glands all over his. Body and so calls himself a kudu sweats much less and has to find shade if it's to cool down,and a man has hands with which to carry water. So during the chase he can replenish the liquid, he loses as sweatthen the kudu collapses from sheer exhaustion.Malcolm Collins: It'sSimone Collins: like those those horror films. Where the person who's being chased is just screaming and running and, and like, you know, acting all manic. And then like, the killer's just like slowly walking behind them. Like very, justMalcolm Collins: Yeah, yeah, like, like, well, I mean, it's interesting. I, I sometimes imagine like when humans go into space because all space faring entities will be marked for their intelligence, right?Like they'll all have been the most intelligent species on their planet. So like, what makes humans unique? Like, what's the other really weird thing about humans? Because all species will likely have something that's like. [00:04:00] I can almost guarantee that interstellarly, if there are multiple intelligent species, one of the things that humans would be known for is...Stupid amounts of persistence. Like, other species will be like, Oh yeah, they'll just keep chasing you. Like, you piss them off, and they'll just follow you forever. Until they have killed you and everyone you know. But, no, I mean, I, I... I don't think that that's a bad thing to have as a species, but I also think it's a very interesting thing to, to have that marks what makes us different.Because I think so many people, when they define what makes them human, and what they're prou

We discuss the most effective arguments for converting non-religious people to religion, focusing especially on kids who were raised religious but became secular. We talk about what doesn't work, like Bible passages or hell threats, and what does work, like pointing to poor outcomes in secular culture and providing community amenities. We also cover topics like targeting people in vulnerable states, logic vs. emotion in arguments, dating markets, and more.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I hope that people are able to use this to convert people more effectively. And to hopefully do a better job at evangelizing to your kids. You know, as we say, the first 18 years of a kid's life are your chance to pitch your culture to them.And if you don't do a good job, they're going to leave. Exactly. And then your culture will die, your traditions will die,Simone Collins: and your people will die. Everyone you've ever loved will disappear to history. Everything that every ancestor before you has worked to do will be for nothingWould you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. So this video is going to be an interesting topic, but it's what I've been thinking about when I've been looking at, so people who don't know me Simone, like my favorite radio station, then you'll point this out. They are. Always like Christian talk radio. I really like listening to like long Christian apologetics.I, despite being a secular person, I really culturally identify with these groups. I really just like listening to them. I find the, the, the lessons [00:01:00] that they're teaching are often broadly applicable to my life. Totally. We as a society like if we're talking about like the structures, like the core enemy.Right now in society and now there's another enemy that we're gonna have to deal with eventually. So we sort of have the two enemies of Tism. Steep enemy. Yes. The core, the core enemy right now is sort of woke in the mind virus, the cult, whatever you wanna call it, that's taking over society right now and.Religious traditions act as a very good structural protection against that for many individuals minds. Now, the second enemy is the religious extremists who want everyone on earth dead except people who think like them, or converted, which, from my perspective, you know, if you've... If you completely erase my kid's culture, then, you know, they might as well, not might as well.I mean, I would appreciate them updating the culture on their own based on their ideology, rather than just like whole class accepting what somebody else is telling them. Right. But anyway so, so that's the future enemy. And, and groups like that, you know, these low [00:02:00] technology, extremely aggressive groups that they want everyone who doesn't think like them dead they are growing and when.The, the woke castle falls that that will be the next. Multiple populations because there's many groups like this. You know, they exist across religious traditions. That will be the next group that we're that we're fighting. But even to fight them, we need to preserve an alliance and a large population of mentally healthy religious individuals who still have traditions, who still have some sense of culture.And one of the ways that we have done this with our family is essentially take the scraps of our ancestral traditions and rebuild a sort of secular religious framework, which we often talk about. That is not what we're going to talk about on this video, because I would also like not just people to do what we're doing, but also succeed.in evangelism. And when I [00:03:00] say succeed in evangelism, I think the single most important person that you will evangelize to in your entire life is your children. 100%. And, and so when people think about evangelism, they do not often think about their own kids. They think about going out and trying to convert other people.But if you look at statistics, there was a set of statistics that we were sharing in a recent video. The game is just completely different now. And I'm going to put this statistic here again, because it's just so like, it's not like things are a little different. You know, if you look at belief ingen X right now, people who, who share believing in God without a doubt.So these are people who believe in God, without a doubt within Gen X, you're looking at like 65 percent with engine Z. You're looking at like 33%. This is actually 2018. It appears to still be dropping. So you're dealing with something entirely different now. And as I pointed out in previous generations, as we pointed out in the previous episode on this, you could have just like peer [00:04:00] pressured them.Right. Or you could have assumed that they wouldn't be getting outside ideas constantly, but now it's possible for your kids to deconvert and not tell you that they've deconverted and you never find out. And we've seen that a decent, we've seen this persistently with very conservative, wholesome families.Like, like the epito

In this thought-provoking discussion, we analyze why apocalyptic and “prepper” mindsets have taken hold more than acknowledging the coming “dark age.” Apocalyptic visions absolve personal responsibility, making them memetically potent yet useless. Preparism feeds individualist control fantasies, not actual resilience.In contrast, “dark age” outlooks force confronting the future to shape it for one’s community and posterity. We see figures like Curtis Yarvin and some organized religious groups taking this road less traveled. Ultimately more people must build alternative structures, not just bunkers, to inherit the future.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] He thinks that that individual should be chosen based on their proven competence and if they're capable to be cycled out that that would cause negative effects on, on the society, like they would be cycled out for the wrong reason.And he's not insane for thinking this. I mean, if we look historically, like the two, I think greatest figures in demographic history were both betrayed by their own countries.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: By the way, did you know that the, the phrase toxic masculinity came out of the mythopoetic men's movement.It was actually a description of the type of bad behavior that comes out of a society that suppresses masculinity.Malcolm Collins: Interesting. Yes. But, we're here to talk about something else.But I am very excited to be here with you today. Yeah. So, what I wanted to talk about, because this is something I was thinking about, where we often point out that humanity is heading into a dark age, but we also often really complain about apocalypticism in the Judeo Christian canon, [00:01:00] right? So if you look historically within the Judeo Christian tradition, there have repeatedly been trends towards apocalyptic approaches to the world.Yeah. Which is to say you can look at the Millerist movement early in the U. S. There was this movement in the seventies. It was some like number code in the Bible. There was Y two K, there was and this number coded the vitals, the, the Mayan calendar one after that. Oh yeah, the Mayan calendar one.Yeah. We just as, as the Judeo-Christian culture is incredibly, and it doesn't seem to happen with Themic culture as much as specifically, which is part of the Judeo-Christian tradition. So what I really mean is Jews and Christians really, really, really, really susceptible to apocalyptic. We loveusSimone Collins: some edge times.Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And these memetic sets of somebody who's like, well, aren't your views apocalyptic? Because you say we are headed towards the dark age. And I actually pointed out something that I don't think a lot of people realize, which is that dark ages, the belief that we are about to head towards a significant and dramatic [00:02:00] decline in culture.is actually fairly rare historically in the Western canon. thEre are people who have said things are worse today than they were in the past, that it's very different than dark ageism. Warning that things are about to take a dramatic decline downwards, but one that you have power over and can affect.Simone Collins: Right, because instead the view is that there's going to be a dramatic End. Just an end. It's end times. It's not, it's not dark times.Malcolm Collins: And so why is this? Because I, because I think this is very interesting. Why, why there's this, this huge split here. And I think it's because of well two things. The mimetic viability of each of these ideas.And two, what they imply for the individual. Right. So the biggest, if I was going to like sum it all up in one little piffy quote, it's that apocalypticism removes [00:03:00] responsibility from the individual. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas dark ageism increases the responsibility on the individual. Oh,Simone Collins: that's where you're going with this.Okay. Nice.Malcolm Collins: Well, no, it's, it's, it's true, right? If you believe that society is about to head in a dramatically downwards direction, Yeah. You don'tSimone Collins: need to save money. You don't need to build anything. You don't need to invest in the future. You know, you, you can invest all in the now.Malcolm Collins: Well this, no, sorry.That's if you believe in apocalypticism. That's if you believe in apocalypticism.Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Sorry. Yeah, so if you believe in apocalypticism, you don't have to do s**t, like, you can do whatever you want, right, like, because the world is either going to be destroyed, or, the only thing you need to invest in, if you're an apocalyptic, is spreading the apocalypticSimone Collins: message.Yeah, getting attention, oh, that's so hard.Malcolm Collins: Well, it's not just getting attention. Like, obviously that appeals to the individual, but it also is memetically useful. Mm hmm. A memetic set that is spreading via apocalyptic messaging is going out there and telling people, Okay [00:04:00] just believe in the message.That's

In this thought-provoking discussion, we explore whether advances like artificial wombs fundamentally threaten the necessity of women in society. We analyze how the maternal instinct shapes female psychology evolutionarily.We also cover the interplay of sexuality, submission rituals in both secular and religious spheres, the plausibility of multi-gender futures, and whether tension between genders creates cultural dynamism. Ultimately we contend traditional pair bonds seem deeply embedded in human drives. Losing women would sacrifice aspects of the human experience.Malcolm: [00:00:00] these submission rituals that you see within these you know, BDSM communities and stuff like that, Very similar rituals sort of co evolved in many religious communities.Hmm. Whether you're talking about, you know, ultraOrthodox Jewish Teflon, Catholic Opus Dei, like whipping thing and stuff like that.And I don't think that any of this is because these cultures have been influenced by sexual cultures. I think it's that both represent extreme forms of submission and that extreme forms of submission, whether they be to masturbate a feeling instinct or to show supplication to... a genuine great power are going to have some degree of co evolution,Would you like to know more?Malcolm: So, you guys might know this from our other content. I'll talk while you're getting ready. But that we don't use heating in our house in the winter because we believe in extreme frugality.Like, suffering edifies the spirit, everything like that, you know? But! Last year when she wasn't pregnant, she was wearing a [00:01:00] Russian that she bought from, like, somewhere in Siberia where she could get cheap.You know what I'm going to do? I am going to, I'm going to share a picture with our audience because this is just too much. But what she has done and you can talk a bit, how you came to this, you know, we're talking about pragmaxing in life. What you did is you said, okay, so first.You know, where do people live in really cold environments? And then you got these, these, these sew suits that make you look like a, somebody who should be called Natasha. Like a James Bond villain or something. And now because you're pregnant, you can't wear them anymore. And so she's like, okay, when did people have to deal with pregnancy and cold environments without heating?And so she went back and took inspiration from medieval outfits. And I'd love it if you could talk a bit about how your layering process works with this.Simone: Yeah it's, it's brilliant. I, I think this is much better maternity wear. One, because actually when you go back to, I mean, before the industrial revolution, everyone just kind of wore the same outfit all the time.So your outfit had to grow with you. If you got fatter, if you got thinner, it would have to grow with you or shrink with you. If you got pregnant, it would have to grow [00:02:00] or shrink with you. So I was like, Oh yeah. then probably the best clothing I should wear for changing sizes is clothing from a different age.And so, for the winter to stay warm, I'm basically wearing like thermal underwear and over that I'm wearing a chemise. And I have a, like, I guess you could say it's kind of like a a corset or stays and then a long skirt and then a really heavy wool coat. And it just feels great. So, I think.Much better maternity wear than the gross stuff that most women are forcing themselves to wear while they getMalcolm: larger. And a great thing about this is you can wear it pregnancy after pregnancy and year after year and day after day because this is a type of clothing that's designed to be worn almost every day.Yeah,Simone: it's super durable, it's very practical, and it's extremely comfortable. So, highly recommend it.Malcolm: With just changing out the underlayer, obviously. But, okay, so... I am going to prime you with something that happened to me at this art conference we went to, which is like a conservative [00:03:00] Davos thing that was hosted by like Jordan Peterson and Louise Perry.Anyway, in the UK, the conservatives are quite different than the conservatives in the US. They are more like small C conservatives and the feminist side of the movement is much, much bigger there because turfs make up a big part of the conservative movement out there. Anyway, so I was talking to them about, oh, you know, the.IVF, artificial wombs, stuff like that. And this one woman just lost it. She goes, what? Artificial wombs are the most evil thing ever. If we have artificial wombs, what's even the point of women? Nothing could be more anti feminist than an artificial womb.Simone: Hold on. Wait. A feminist woman. Thought that the only point of women was gestation.Malcolm: Well, keep in mind, and this is actually really interesting, so these women in this conservative movement, they have a very conservative view of what a woman's role is. Have kids, care for the home, care for the kids, right? Is that feminist? Well, it's not. This

We reveal the secrets behind how we are able to be so productive in our work, creative projects, parenting, health and more as a couple that collaborates closely together. We explain our philosophies and tactics around ambition, laziness, scheduling, office workflows, life hacking through our marriage partnership, outsourcing, and more.Simone Collins: [00:00:00] And we feel a lot of shame in where we are. Like we're able to enjoy the moment, but we're always like, we're this is not enough, could be doing better. This is not to be. And to have a mindset where you are constantly saying, how can I do better? A lot of people would say that that's toxic and it's bad for your mental health.Whereas we've actually found that it's great and it contributes significantly to our productiveness, because when people instead are saying, I am enough, it's just enough, that's always an excuse to do less andMalcolm Collins: not more. Well, I mean, I really genuinely think the world, I mean, more than that, I genuinely believe the world is sort of beginning to collapse around us.We are heading towards an incredibly dark time as a civilization and that. Most people with agency or the intelligence to fix this are not moving towards fixing it. There is a small group of people who are but what that basically means is that to a large extent, the future of our children and our descendants depends on our ability to set up any.Sort of viable future for our species like our personal ability to do that Well,Would you like to [00:01:00] know more?Simone Collins: One of the things that causes me the most anxiety and you see this all the time is when we drive by a giant office building and it's just packed with people. And I cannot for the life of me, imagine what all these people are doing and businesses are starting to wake up to this.And just firing huge swaths of their employees because they realize, Oh my gosh, we don't need them because they're not really doing anything. And we've met people too, who are like, yeah, I don't do anything in my job. LikeMalcolm Collins: to, to, to pull on what she's saying here, when she looks at like a giant office building, she's like.Almost any company in the world can be run by like a hundred people. So why is there a building with thousands of people? You know, honestly, I think most companies in the world can easily be run by a team of 30 to 40 people. With theSimone Collins: exception of like, imagine, you know, hospitals, those that, you know, that in person staff you need to have, you know.Oh no,Malcolm Collins: no, no, no, no. So this is different. She's talking about office buildings. YouSimone Collins: know, this, this is different from like Amazon buildings, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And I think the thing is that [00:02:00] a philosophy we have, a realization we've made is that the vast majority of people, and this is both from seeing how organizations are run, but also just observing our friends, our family, colleagues, et cetera, do extremely little.And then we know a couple, like a handful of people who are very similar to us who are just insanely productive. ButMalcolm Collins: let's go on this. So, so, and this is a, an episode that we are doing right before we're going to be in front of 4 million New Zealanders on, on their, one of their major TV shows. So we are...Exercising time management right now, because we had to set up all this equipment anyway. But, it was a topic that was spurred to us by an audience member. Who was like, how do you guys have time to like, watch anime and as another recent video did, like, read up on random fictional lore and, All of that, while also staying as educated as you are, and raising as many kids as you're raising, and running a [00:03:00] company, oh, and starting that school, oh, and you do a podcast daily.I am surprised by us not getting more compliments for that. Can even, I am a little impressed that we do 30 to 45 minutes every weekday, and we keep things Pretty fresh. I mean, there's other YouTubers out there who you know, they'll do the same topics again and again and again, which is fairly easy to do.Whereas I really try to make an effort to never tread the exact same ground twice, but to have a few like themes that we're on the skirts of. But how, how do we do this? Right? Like this is actually, I think an interesting question. There's a few ways that we do it, right. And I'm going to go through them.The first is just be incredibly intentional about how you are structuring your time. Here is an example. We have published five books. After we published the first book, all the other books we published in pairs of two, where we would publish two books at a time. A lot of people can say, [00:04:00] why would you do that?Why are you publishing two books at a time? And the answer is. It's because it saves a lot of time to do. It allows us to go out there and do the editing process for both books at the same time while also saving money

We discuss statistics showing the rapid decline in belief in God among Gen Z, and how conservative Gen Z splits into different ideological camps. We analyze why historic techniques for passing down traditions intergenerationally are failing, how Gen Z hides changes from parents, and why the parents' generation isn't transmitting culture properly to their kids.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] when we're looking at you know, the extent of the urban monoculture, and we're talking about how much culture has changed recently, people see this as sort of a linear change that is linearly Going from the boomers, you know, up to modern generations, right?It is not. It is, it is an asymmetric change. It's logarithmic. It is happening incredibly quickly right now. What has happened in this last 20 years is not comparable to what was happening in our own childhood. Mm hmm. Culturally speaking. these iterations of conservatism I see within Gen Z is really different from their parents generation.And it means that the parents are not passing culture intergenerationally with fidelity, even when they believe they have.Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, and also like, I think, you know, like, as you say, a lot of kids are hiding that, which is, Not helpful, I guess, in helping parents course correct, [00:01:00] but also, if the parents knew that their kids had lost their religion, would there be anything they can do?Malcolm Collins: a lot of the techniques. That people have historically used to pass down these traditions intergenerationally are just not working very well.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Task item regards to that? I already did. Yeah. And in addition to that, could you um, send yourself a to do item about emailing her the, I already sent her theSimone Collins: email. Look at how on top of things they are.Malcolm Collins: No, I'm sorry, Simone. I'm sorry. I don't, you are amazing. This is a great way to start so people see how it is.When I ask you to do things, you just camera, well, like you were in theSimone Collins: middle before that we were rudely interrupted by a call. You were telling me how Chavez, Castro, and Che were doing. With, you know, like AOC and Bernie. Like, are they okay?Malcolm Collins: They looked terrified when I first met them. So, you are chickens after communists.And they seemed fine. They seemed fine. They were making they were complaining a lot. They were, and in a separate part of the cage. So they [00:02:00] were talking.Simone Collins: Okay. So they're, they're okay. Were they, were they being attacked byMalcolm Collins: AOC I don't know. They were in a different part,Simone Collins: you know. Okay. So they're, they're like, they're, they're, they're clustering together.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. They're not like dead or anything. Okay. I just, I don't know. Like, I'm,Simone Collins: I'm worried. I don't want them to be like stressed out or anything. And like, they're the friendliest ones. SoMalcolm Collins: I don't know. You are the sweetest chicken mom which I appreciate because we're getting lots of great eggs which means egg everything these days.So, you, right before this, you know, being ever diligent sent me some statistics you thought I would find interesting. Yeah! And they were so shocking, I then did a sanity test on them after you sent them to me, just to be like, come on, this can't be... So first you know, you're going to see the statistics on the screen if you're watching on YouTube.What it shows is the share of Americans This is Americans, right? I think so. Who believe in [00:03:00] God without doubt. And if you look at the silent generation, it's around 70 percent slight decline over time. You look at boomers, it's like 65 percent slight decline over time. You look at gen X actually goes up over time from like just under 60 percent to almost around where boomers are now 65 percent then you get to millennials and it's like things drop off a cliff in the early days like 1998 they were only around 55 percent and now like well 2018 where this recording stops they're all the way down to like what Around 45 percent then Gen Z when they start recording, they're, they're dropping even faster.They go from like 50 percent to now, you know, I don't know, 33%. It's just plummeting, plummeting, plummeting. And so then I looked and I was like, okay, what are religious people saying about this? Right? Like did, do, do sources that are looking into this religiously. So there was this article over [00:04:00] half of Gen Z.teens feel motivated to learn more about Jesus. Now you can tell this was written from a conservative perspective. So this data is not going to be skewed, whatever, right? So they show among US young adults only 17 percent are committed Christians. And 52 percent aren't Christian at all anymore. And this is a US young adults.anD so this is really meaningful to me for a number of reasons. The biggest is, I think that there's this general perception that the rise in se

We discuss how in the secular religious lore and belief system we are constructing for our family, we conceive of "demons" or chaotic forces as being different manifestations of the "Future Police" - the same forces that guide things towards good outcomes. Just as angels can punish, so too can the Future Police act as demons, laying trials, temptations, and hardship intended to test people and peel them from the righteous path. We explore how this connects to concepts like sin, stagnation, change, the great game, and relate it to entities from Warhammer lore.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] I would say that, and this is where we'll get to one of the other demons, one of the easiest paths to temptation, one of the easiest ways a person can fall off the righteous path is to not recognize that as a human, they are wretched and they are flawedand that, that is okay. All humans sin. But it's critical. Is that you do not glorify the sin.. Sin is a, is a, is a part of life, but there is a huge difference between saying I am engaging in this sin. I recognize it as sin. I recognize it as something I should have some shame for but I also recognize that I am human and thus a sinner.Right? But if you use it and say, no, actually the sports are a good thing. I am a good person for being good at sports. I am a good person for, in whatever particular aspect of slaneshidom that I engage in. That is where true evil comes from. But true evil can also come from a [00:01:00] human that thinks they can totally avoid sin.Every group I know of. believes that humans can completely avoid sin, the humans in their group that quote unquote come closest to that are typically the most efficacious individuals in society. Because avoiding sin means avoiding action.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: When you said that we were going to talk about demons today, I was so sure that you were going to, like, make this fallacious episode about, like, skeletons in our closet or something, you know, like your childhood demons, because so many people online are like, these are two deeply damaged people. You know, they sayMalcolm Collins: that about us.Do they think that we areSimone Collins: dealing with our trauma and this is why we want to have children or why were we, IMalcolm Collins: love this. I mean, you want to talk about a sign of brainwashing or a brainwashed individual it's when somebody disagrees with them or has a different world perspective than their damage, their first reaction.Is what horrible thing happened to them in [00:02:00] their past that made them see the world differently than me and that what they need to do. And there's actually a class of people who do this. They don't even say like, you know, you should read the research or you should go out there and learn about this topic.They're like, you need to go to. therapy. Yes. Then you will think like me.Simone Collins: Exactly. It's like, I think it's a constant trope that people are exposed to in media. Like villains, of course, were raised in terribly abused environments. Like, you know, that, that Dr. Evil bit where he's like, you know, he talks about this like terrible childhood and how he was beaten and all theseMalcolm Collins: things.Well, I mean, I think that the, you know, if you talk about, we talk about the, the super virus, right? The and the way that it maintains its membership or recruits new members is through using psychologists. And we have talked about this in, in the video, psychology has become a cult. I think this is somebody who originally trained in psychology.The way that psychology is practiced now is not the way it was practiced. even a decade ago in [00:03:00] terms of what's considered acceptable and what's not. And, and, and, you know, as, as to what you're saying here it makes a lot of sense. If you see this not as being in like one cultural group versus another cultural group, but see it as being in a cult.Well, yeah, of course a cult would tell you what you need to go to your cult. Cult appointed mind cleaner, they'll, they'll clean your, your brain's dirty and there's these people you can pay to clean it.They'll wash it for you if, if you will, and then once you have a clean brain, you can haveSimone Collins: clean thoughts.Oh, I'm rewatching this during editing, I realized the joke may not be clear here. I am making a joke about brainwashing.Simone Collins: I don't think there's a precedent for that though, like even in the media tropes where like the evil person has gone to therapy and worked on themselves, like they're never really fixed. So it's just kind of this excuse to write someone off permanently. that they're damaged, they're traumatized, and you know, though they should go to therapy and whatnot, no amountMalcolm Collins: of it will actually.I mean, I saw so much [00:04:00] of this was Trump you know, when he was elected. Did people say heSimone Collins: was traumatized in his youth?Malcolm Collins: Yeah, all of these articles.

In this insightful discussion with rising conservative thinker Aria Babu, we analyze counterintuitive social trends around fertility rates. We explain why more “socially conservative” countries often have lower fertility than socially liberal ones.Aria contends intensive mothering expectations in traditional cultures create barriers. Malcolm notes conservative minority groups within secular societies have higher birth rates. We argue familial living stands crucial, not public policy concessions. Still, promoting extensive stay-at-home motherhood proves misguided, despite intuitions. Overall an incisive look at the data on real drivers of birth rates.Aria Babu: [00:00:00] My theory for it is that British elites have three beliefs that are very difficult to square with each other, which is one of them, which is that biodeterminism is completely false. That a child's outcomes are based wholly on on their environment.Second, the inequality is bad. So the fact that children from different. Households have different outcomes is genuinely negative. It's like a genuine, like really bad thing to happen. And three, the education can basically fix all of all of these ends. So then when you see that children who go to the same schools end up having different outcomes based on their parents backgrounds, the best theory that then comes to mind is, oh, it's about what's going on slightly before school, which I think is why so much energy is poured into the early years foundation stage.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello! It is so exciting to be with you guys today. I am really excited to bring... Someone who I feel we, we have scouted in, in, in talent scouting, but it seems that all of the other rising conservative intellectuals also know her Aria [00:01:00] Babu who is sort of a underground key figure in the, the conservative intellectual movement in the UK.And she recently started a sub stack. She's only one episode in, but I already love it. I was actually planning to do an episode just on. chain of subtext that she's releasing. So do you want to start by going into the subtext that you're working on the, the, the first episode, and then we can expand fromAria Babu: there.Yeah, of course. So my first piece was about how socially conservative countries. don't seem to have higher birth rates in socially liberal countries. So the first, like, look at the data, if you just look at the European value survey, and you compare that to just TFRs across these countries, shows that actually the more like socially conservative countries, so we're looking at thinking like Italy and Spain, for example, have lower birth rates than the more socially liberal ones.We're thinking Scandinavian countries, France, Britain. My second post which I've already done the research for, but I haven't published yet, then goes into [00:02:00] asking why that might be the case. So my first theory is that maybe more socially liberal countries have better provision of childcare. They have more public services that support motherhood.So I looked at cost of childcare, number of parents who use it, and Yeah, both of those things, basically, and also attitudes towards using child care. And it seems that those also have like literally no correlation with birth rates in different countries. And I remember seeing that in Austria the cost of a nursery place for two kids costs 3 percent of the average woman's income, whereas in Switzerland, it costs 64 percent and those countries have the exact same birth rate.Fascinating. So that doesn't seem to make a difference. And I was like, okay, what is another reason why a more socially liberal country might have A higher birth rate. Well, maybe it's because a more socially liberal country. Well, I was going to say maybe it's just because it's a nicer place to live, but that's actually like super unmeasurable.I mean, maybe it is a nicer place to live and that does make it easier, but that kind of sounds like b******t to me. sO then I thought, okay, [00:03:00] what are the other correlates that might have you have might have between social conservatism and yes, And I was wondering if maybe it's because the more you value motherhood, the more you prize it, the more work it might be for people.So it's very difficult to then try and pick out data that suggests like how much work do you think children are? But the closest I could find on the OECD stats site is birth rates as correlated with the amount of time that mothers spend with new babies. Okay. Okay. And then you do get the correlation.Then you get the correlation that pretty much maps to the socially conservative to socially liberal correlation. So that's my underlying theory currently, which is that the more socially conservative people also believe that having children is much more work.Simone Collins: And so just to be clear, more socially conservative nations also report higher amounts of time spent with new babies.And is this in the form of matern

In this thought-provoking discussion, we analyze why men flaunting fancy cars, watches, and other displays of wealth can seem strangely similar to women posting sexualized images. We argue both represent kinds of signaling not aligned with long-term monogamy.For men acquiring trophies wives, the woman herself becomes a sexual status symbol. Yet this disposability makes trophy relationships precarious for women. More broadly, more meaningful displays like family commitment and mentorship better indicate male status. We see obsessive wealth flexing as an addiction distracting from real impact, similar to female vanity.Ultimately, both genders sometimes get distracted maximizing the wrong kinds of social status. Redirecting these motives toward posterity could better serve society.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] when I see older men do this, right, it reminds me a lot of of a older woman trying to show off her sexuality, like a Madonna showing off her sexuality.Every time I see some old man with eight fancy cars in his garage, and he's married. And I'm like, why aren't you investing in your kids companies? Why aren't you helping them get off the ground? And if you don't have kids, why aren't you putting money into causes that you care about? The world is literally falling apart, and you are sexually signaling to a F*****g mirror.It's weird and pathetic.Simone Collins: Yeah. I mean, it is interesting that it isn't seen as obscene in society for a man to signal his wealth as it is for a woman to signal her sexual availability. Why I think it's uniquely strange is that we already live in a society that, that demoralizes men for pretty much everything else they do.Why do you think this isn't being demoralized?Malcolm Collins: [00:01:00] So there's easy glib answers I could give, right? Like they want men to waste their lives. They don't want money that could go to fixing things to go to fixing things because fixing things removes the people in power from power. I don't think this is why. No, I'm just being clear. I don't think this is I'll tell you why,Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Hello gorgeous. HelloMalcolm Collins: Simone. It is wonderful to be here with you today. I am excited for this topic. It came up when we were doing the Just Pearly thing recording, like in the moment I was thinking about this. bEcause in the, in the episode, the,Simone Collins: the thesis for context, a couple of weeks back, we were on the just pearly things pregame show.It is a panel based show where Hannah Pearl Davis you know, discusses various topics and a bunch of randos who show up discuss with her. And one thing that she started doing near the end of the pregame show was pull up images of women on Twitter and criticize them for [00:02:00] dressing in provocative ways.SoMalcolm Collins: which, which, you know, it's funny that maybe if you look at our episode with Louise Perry, what we need as a society, more women I don't know if that episode will air before this one or not, but more women being criticized for when they are outside of their younger age phase, because, you know, women like men go through multiple phases where they are psychologically optimized for different things and when, which they should be optimized for different things.And if you are a mother and a wife, You know, being a thirst trap, it's probably not you've got to ask, why are you still doing that? Like, why are you still looking for validation from men who are not your husband on online environments? Right? That is something that maybe people should be shamed for? So, anyway. However, we had a theory on this show that came up that I had never really thought through before,Simone Collins: , you would support the idea of using social shaming to [00:03:00] encourage society to ease into various stages of life that actually work sustainably, like going from being a young woman who banks on her sexual attractiveness to being more of a matriarch who focuses more on motherhood and building a career than to more of a matriarch who focuses on, on mentorship and using shame to kind of enforce that.Yeah.Malcolm Collins: And I think this makes sense. And I think that, you know, it was in the red pill. We see this okay, if a woman is married and she is projecting to society, I am in a monogamous relationship. You know, why is she doing this stuff? Right? Like, why is she doing the sexual signaling? We would look at her really weird.If she walked down the street was like little, you know, pins on her, her nipples and nothing else. And in some ridiculous outfit, you're like, who are you signaling to? And worse than walking down the street posted. picture on social media. But this gets really interesting. So what is the male equivalent to this?Right? Well, in, in humans women signal [00:04:00] using their bodies often. That is how they attract mates. How do men often attract mates? Well, men attract mates showing success and material wealth. That being the case,

Malcolm and Simone have an in-depth discussion on why they believe Bitcoin is valuable as an investment asset, especially for the ultra wealthy. They cover topics like Bitcoin's divisibility, transportability, known supply, and increased ownership compared to other assets like gold. They also talk about how Bitcoin could be useful in various societal collapse scenarios compared to precious metals, and what risks there still may be to its long term value.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] If I have a caravan and I'm trying to move assets between two locations in like medieval Europe or something like that.And that caravan had a lot of gold in it, right? If that is raided by a group of bandits, those bandits, because the, the gold is easily divisible, it can easily divide it. They can easily use it even in small increments to buy a beer. You know, you could, you know, historically in the old West, that's where they'd grow out their nails.They'd scrape a little bit of gold dust. And they'd use that to buy a beer. But, but If you are a group of bandits and you raid a carriage and it's full of art, expensive art, that is incredibly hard to fence. That is incredibly hard to make of use to you.And the amount of money you're going to get from that is dramatically lower than the amount of money a wealthy person could get from that. And for those reasons, There is differentially less reason to raid those carts. Now, with crypto, it's a little different. If [00:01:00] I split my key. between multiple carriages for anyone to gain access to any of it.They would need to successfully heist every single carriage was a portion of my key I hope it now makes sense to you why this is such a valuable asset to the ultra wealthy.And then the question is, do we live in a world where Wales is being more and more concentrated among a smaller and smaller class of people? And to me, the answer there is f*****g obviously.Simone Collins: You know, you're number one. You are the sun around which we revolve.Malcolm Collins: That is not true. You are the best and I love you. You shouldn't. But we're going to talk about Bitcoin today. Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. So we got a comment under we, we had done a video on you know, investment and we mentioned Bitcoin briefly in that video and, and, you know, why I thought I liked it more than precious metals.It's like a longterm investment and we're, we're pretty heavily invested in, [00:02:00] in that area of crypto at least. And one of the comments said. You like, I know I would never get Bitcoin because you don't own your own Bitcoin. You know, it's always on another exchange like FTX or something like that. But with gold, I can own my own gold.And when I saw that I was like, holy s**t. Like even in our audience, which I consider a fairly educated audience. I was surprised by the lack of like knowledge about like the basics of Bitcoin as an investment or the way Bitcoin works or why it has value. If you are a Bitcoin person, you would hear something like that and just guffaw at the insanity of it.Because it is so super incorrect. So what we wanted to take this podcast to do is explore Bitcoin. As an asset, i. e. not as a technology, like not why, and I think this [00:03:00] is the problem with Bitcoin videos, is they so often approach it being like, Ooh, here's like the technical part of like why it's cool, here's like the whatever, you know.Great.Simone Collins: Or like, here's how to invest and look at these weird charts and this is myMalcolm Collins: method. Yeah, yeah. Or like that, like, oh, here's it going up into the right and here's it going down and this is how you do it and youSimone Collins: know, because of the, this and that, like how it's going to change, blah, blah, blah. Right.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Whereas I want to try to do an episode on Bitcoin and this is why I didn't really prep for this episode. Otherwise I would have on an episode on Bitcoin. Interesting. So just at the highest conceptual investment level, like as an asset. discuss why it's a thing of value and why I think it will be a thing of long term value that I am very interested in, in participating, like long term when I think about my kids and stuff like that.All right, let's do it. Well, so Simone, do you want to take a start in the basics of what you understand of how Bitcoin works? [00:04:00] Okay.Simone Collins: Things I personally like about Bitcoin. One is it's not owned or run by a government. It you know, although there are obviously complications to this, like where the supply could be manipulated if enough people who Bitcoin.Sort of decide they want to change this another thing that made it stand out to me is that you actually really can own this. And, and this is an asset that when s**t hits the fan, you can take with you and you literally don't have to have anything as long as like, you've, you've remembered recovery.Phrases. And that's kind of scary. I mean, you could have it written somewhere. You could have it y

In this thought-provoking discussion, we analyze the disingenuousness and ineffectiveness of much environmentalist activism. We argue the movement is frequently performative, serving more as a cultural identity than driving real change.Many proposed lifestyle sacrifices around plastic usage and commuting fail to meaningfully impact emissions at scale. We see Germany's Green Party as an egregious example, increasing carbon reliance on coal due to aesthetic policy preferences.Ultimately we contend environmentalism resembles a religious culture focused on moral posturing over pragmatism. Some tech interventions merit attention, yet visions of voluntary collective austerity seem doomed. Preparing for adverse climate impacts could better ready society.[00:00:00] And one of the great ironies... Of having the Green Party in the ruling coalition, uh, and in previous ruling coalitions, is they have systematically dismantled a lot of the relatively low carbon sources of energy that the Germans have had, nuclear, natural gas, in favor of coal and especially lignite.So under the Greens, because of Green policy, we've seen an explosion. Uh, that will last decades in German carbon emissions. So, if you are in Germany and a little bit of electrons comes in from wind or solar, that has to be fed into the system regardless of what the price point happens to be. And if you've got a lignite facility that you're leaving on... Because it takes more than 24 hours to spin that thing up and down, and when the sun goes down or the solar goes away, the light that has to be there to keep the light on?Well, you don't count the electricity that it generates during the day. You only count the solar and wind. .If you actually count what power is generated and [00:01:00] what is used, when it is used, you're talking only about 10 percent green..Malcolm Collins: It is this level of disingenuousness, this level of not at all fighting for anything that you would actually be fighting for. If you cared about the things you said you cared about, it makes me have such a high level of animosity.Towards the movement.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Well, I love you, Simone, and I am excited for our topic today, because it's where you started your career.Do you want to talk about your early career?Simone Collins: Absolutely. Being raised in super progressive Silicon Valley, I was determined to save the world By doing the most obvious thing, saving the environment because that's what really needs our help. And flowers, the flowers, the flowers are very important. And so I, I looked at what I thought would make the most impact.I felt likeMalcolm Collins: Actually, before you go further, I'd love you to explain why you thought saving the environment mattered. Like, what about the environment was like intrinsically good?Simone Collins: Well, it was sort of the, an [00:02:00] availability heuristic problem. Everything around me was the environment is, is falling apart. In my science classes, we talked about environmental damage and pollution and climate change.And then of course, like in the news, it was a big issue. So it was just, in terms of like problems in the world that need to be resolved, it was the environment. Interestingly, actually, it wasn't human suffering. It wasn't starvation. It wasn't disease. And those are like really big issues that I would expect progressive groups to really care about.Very Evoked set. I had been told, in fact, That in the past parents used to tell their children who were not eating their dinners. Don't you know, there are children starving in China, but that no one does that anymore, which kind of implied that, like, there weren't children starving anywhere anymore. So that's the closest I got to awareness of starvation.And hardship outside. SoMalcolm Collins: you started this firstSimone Collins: career. Yeah. So I decided to go into environmental business because my understanding was that changing, [00:03:00] like dealing with environmental problems through the public sector was ineffective. You created this degree, right? Yeah. So I went to the Georgia Washington university.Because they had a good undergraduate business school. I didn't want to wait until graduate school like that. That was a waste of time because academia, even then, even then I knew academia was a waste of time. And I created a sort of custom major using graduate classes in environmental business that they had.And then I, I started I volunteered and interned. at environmental nonprofits. I worked at the American Council of Renewable Energy. I worked at Earth Day Network, which is the nonprofit that basically administers Earth Day and Earth Day festivals, but then provides year round curriculum and all sorts of other stuff.I extensively interviewed with people who worked as environmental consultants or environmental specialists within organizations or who worked as lobbyists for the environment. And of course, then I also took my, m

In this insightful discussion with luxury bespoke tailor Dimitri Toukhcher, we explore his journey building a global fashion brand worth millions. Dimitri shares tactics that helped him close huge sales, emphasizing boldness, rapport building, and reading people.He contends most success stems from learned skills - not innate traits. We cover why direct sales develops critical expertise like handling rejection, turning strangers into friends, and “selling yourself.” Dimitri argues universities increasingly fail at teaching these social competencies crucial for influence and leadership.Overall an eye-opening look at timeless methods for getting ahead in business and life. Mastering human relationships unlocks doors nothing else can.Dimitri Toukhcher: [00:00:00] See people over plan and under execute. I was all about execution. The first day I went out, I had no fabrics. I had, I bought a magazine with some suit pictures, literally at a home hardware order book.I went into Blake's law firm in Alberta. I was cold calling. I had five meetings. I ended up with six sales. Cause on my way out after five sales, I met someone in the elevator that we ended up going to a boardroom and they bought some stuff as well. So I put up about 40, 000 worth of orders my first week.Again, I had no product, no sample, just a magazine.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello, this is Malcolm Collins here with Dimitri. I actually met you when we were recording for Just Pearly Things. Oh no, before that, at the ARC conference he runs LGMG, which is the company that makes things like Jordan Peterson suits, if you're familiar with those sort of wacky suits, but they also make, you know, more conservative outfits as well.So, so worth checking out and what I wanted to do with this episode, because we've had some episodes on how to like make money or start companies which are our listeners seem to really like. And [00:01:00] you went from my understanding being an encyclopedia salesman to building this, this quite large company.I'd love it if you could walk through the process of that.Dimitri Toukhcher: So every company is a little bit different, right? Like when people say like, what does the CEO do? How did you start your company? There's not one sort of formula that everybody follows, you know, in our case, we're a direct sales company. So, you know, when I was in university and our company is LGFG, it's like, it just stands for look good, feel good, lgfg.com. So when I was in university, um, I just, I needed a way to make some money. And I guess, you know, not everybody. Not everybody responds the same to authority, like, in my case, coming from the USSR, like, authority wasn't sexy to me, and so going into a very large company, like, I did a co op term for the government of Canada, working in public works and government services, and I despised working in a government office, it was just so slow, and everybody was so mediocre, and slovenly, and, and just, you know, lazy.Malcolm Collins: I want to hear more about working in the government to start, because I, [00:02:00] I started my career working at, like, a, a cubicle office? No, it was a start up, but it was... Dramatically more efficient than when I worked in like, even academia. Like academia was slow. I've heard like government, government work is even worse.Can you talk about like office structure?Dimitri Toukhcher: What happened? Well, lemme, lemme tell you a couple examples. Like, I'll tell you my personal experiences. They may be anecdotal, but these are my experiences. So like, I was a sequel coder, so I was supposed to design like an online intranet portal where government workers from our department could log in and view.So this, this government department built like roads and bridges and things like that. And we had to compare like the budget that was set for us for the year versus the budget that we actually spent and we Needed to be able to query it very quickly, right? And so about two months in I finished all the sequel stuff and and We launched the thing and we started searching like month by month and we could see that we were for the year Dramatically under budget, which was great.wHich was great. And then my my my supervisor who was like the department head She was like Hey I see that we're like 200, 000 under budget for [00:03:00] the year. I was like, this is great. She's like, my God, we're going to have to get the best pizza party ever. And I thought she was joking and she wasn't. We had like a month of just pizza parties.She literally said, we need to spend 200, 000 so that we get the same budget next year, otherwise they'll lower our budget. Yeah, I was like, this is taxpayer money. Like I'm not at this point. I'm like 22, but I understand you're just throwing taxpayer money away. This is just wasteful. She's like, yeah, but like, they'll give us a lower budget.I'm like, can you imagine if you're a CEO of a company and it's your money and your com

In this thought-provoking discussion, we analyze the historical roots and social purpose behind the practice of "slut shaming." We explain how in monogamous societies, sexual promiscuity by some women lowers the value proposition for more chaste women. This creates motivations to apply social costs to casual sex.We argue slut shaming emerges as a way to enforce cultural norms around sexuality and relationships without needing formal legal coercion. Shaming works best inside a cultural in-group. Attempting to shame outsiders often backfires by making your own group seem regressive.We also discuss whether slut shaming still "makes sense" today, as cultural norms have shifted. Ultimately we contend it remains relevant for traditionalists seeking partners with low "body counts." Signaling those values clearly is worthwhile, though trying to broadly change mainstream behavior is pointless.Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] You know, infrared systems.Simone Collins: But what are you hunting for humans? No,Malcolm Collins: you don't hunt for humans not smoke. We don't talk about that Yes, this is recording now. You can't talk about that Thing for our friends This is a joke, obviously we don't hunt humans recreationally at night we don't engage inSimone Collins: the ultimate sportMalcolm Collins: You don't call it the ultimate sport.It is a sport. I'd hardly say it's the best sport. It's anything mediocre because we don't like it.Simone Collins: Isn't the ultimate sport winning hearts? Right.Malcolm Collins: Yes! That's the ultimate sport, Throne. Mm hmm, yeah, that's the ultimate sport. I really admire you. Okay, so this episode is a good one, I hope, I hope. What we're going to talk about is slut shaming.We're going to talk about why [00:01:00] People may slut shame. Like why historically this train came about because like people don't just hurt other people for no reason, right? Like if they're shaming you, if they're doing something, there's a reason for that. Either it's an immediate self interested reason or it's because cultural groups that engaged in this practice outcompeted cultural groups that didn't engage in this practice.In the case of slut shaming, it's a bit of both. And then we're going to evaluate. In a modern context, does slut shaming still make sense? With this question being asked in two categories. Does slut shaming make sense if you slut shame people of other cultural groups? Like, does that have utility? And does slut shaming make sense within a cultural group?Does it make sense to slut shame members of your own cultural group? So first, Simone, do you want to go over what slut shaming is for people who may not know?Simone Collins: Ah, yes. Slut shaming involves both male and female public [00:02:00] criticism, often to other people, though often to the subject themselves of someone's sexual promiscuity.So I think a lot of people define a slut as someone who actually like sleeps around a lot. bUt slut shaming in its traditional context could involve literally just shaming a young woman for losing her virginity early. And just then call her a slut because she like literally had sex with her boyfriend at age 16 or something.And it is It is an interesting innovation. It's been around for a long time. Well,Malcolm Collins: hold on. I'd expand it further there. Another area where I often see slut shaming, and I think this is, you know, when I remember in high schoolSimone Collins: Oh, just for dress, right? Just lookingMalcolm Collins: sexually provocative? No, I get it.It's just dress or action. You know, when I didn't like a woman I remember in groups, they call them the sluts, you know, and I think even just generally like not necessarily, they had done something that showed improprietary, impropriety, improper, it was improper. Yeah, it was just seen as a negative general thing to say about somebody.[00:03:00] And so it was frequently used to describe a people who you didn't like, but of course, Isn'tSimone Collins: so like people would often refer to guys that they were making fun of as gay. Or some variation of that. And then they would refer to women that they didn't approve of as sluts, regardless of any sexual signaling whatsoever.Malcolm Collins: This is our generation, by the way, we're not talking, I don't think this is true as much anymore, especially. It isSimone Collins: interesting to just like. Use it as an approximation. I guess it's kind of like culling someone mentally disabled in some way, like chooseMalcolm Collins: whatever word of the time. I think because they were trying to elevate the, the worst things that they could think of each gender succumbing to from the, the, the cultural perspective of the time, normative behavior, women, it was sexual impropriety.It was men. And it's, it's very interesting. Yeah. Well, no, I won't even say sexual deviance. When people in my generation, so I grew up in, in Texas, you know, and a long time ago. I'm 36 now. You're very old. I'm very ol

In this interview, we are joined by Stephen Shaw, creator of the acclaimed documentary "The Birth Gap," to discuss the global fertility crisis.Stephen shares his experiences making the film, including surprising reactions from anti-natalists. We cover the roots of demographic collapse, dating challenges today, and policy ideas like educating on fertility windows.Stephen argues most childlessness is unplanned, caused by cultural factors that mislead people. He sees community-level solutions as most promising, though warns coercive state interventions could happen. We also touch on environmentalism, gender conflicts, and the profound grief of involuntary childlessness.Overall an urgent call to action on demographic collapse, focused on the very real human impacts.Stephen Shaw: [00:00:00] I mean, what we're seeing is back in the 60s.you know, anti natalists or, you know, I call them anti natalists. Natalism to me is clear, though some people define it in different ways. It's simply, you know, it's wanting fewer children or no children. So this was to do with the world running out of food. And then the world didn't run out with the Green Revolution and then we came up with the environment.Maybe that was appropriate, but let's not get into that conversation because it's complicated. But my point is, right now they're shifting again. I can see the shift. The problem now is the patriarchy. And, you know, they're subtly moving away from blaming the environment because they know we're all going to see that the population is maximizing right now.So they're preparing, you know, they're being smart from their point of view about preparing their argument that, oh, it's no longer about the environment, it's about men forcing themselves. We've got to be really careful and call these guys out because you know, they, they have an agenda. They are [00:01:00] ideologists.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins: Hello, everyone. We are extremely excited today to be joined by Stephen Shaw, who is the creator of the Birth Gap documentary, which we consider to be the seminal documentary on demographic collapse that covers the stats, but also the personal fallout from Demograph Collapse already.He interviews quite a few people. It's, it's really great. The first half of it is available for free on YouTube. There is no excuse for you to not check it out. And welcome. We're so glad to see youStephen Shaw: here.Simone Collins: What we'd really love to ask you to start at least because there's so many things we'd like to discuss is after birth cap came out did you encounter any surprises in terms of who was really excited about it? Who resonated with and who didn't like it? Because we found in our own journey with prenatal advocacy that or demographic collapse awareness advocacy that sometimes like surprising groups either really.appreciate it and also really don't. We'd love to hear what you've experienced.Stephen Shaw: I've [00:02:00] experienced everything. And I don't think I was prepared for it at all. I knew I would get pushback. I'd actually warned my kids several years ago that, hey, your dad's gonna get some pushback. You know, just, just, just be ready for it.I thought it was mainly going to come from environmentalists. And I was, you know, preparing rightly so it's part of a healthy discussion about population and the environment. And it's, it's an argument I have had many times. And I think I feel confident to explain that reducing births is not exactly a very efficient way to help the environment.It would take decades to have any impact being one of those, but, but actually, no, the main pushback. came from what I can only describe as anti natalist groups who have been vocal, extreme, relentless, and it's interesting. Maybe we can pursue that. But on the other side, the optimistic side also surprised me.I made the documentary. Feeling frankly quite pessimistic that this is a, you know, a [00:03:00] reality that we have to simply prepare for a world with fewer and fewer people and the inevitable, you know, consequences of that personally to communities and to societies, but actually looking into the eyes of so many young people who watch this who are frankly shocked.I mean, anger is what's being used that, you know, society is preparing them for a life of education first, career second. And then what do you mean we're going to run out of time to start a family? What do you mean we might end up childless when we want families? Those people give me confidence despite their frustrations and anger, because I see in their eyes, very likely many of them will, will do things differently.Malcolm Collins: Can you talk a bit more about what is motivating, like ideologically or dispositionally, the antinatalist groups? I assume many of them are in the negative utilitarian sort of David Benatar sphere of antinatalism. Or are there other things that are motivating them, more just like general human pessimism?There's part,Stephen Sha

We explore how various anime tackle controversial themes and ideas that would be taboo in mainstream Western media. Anime can act as thoughtful social commentary by framing issues abstractly through fiction. We discuss shows like Beastars, Darling in the Franxx, When They Cry, and the deeply problematic but conceptually fascinating Dears.Malcolm: [00:00:00] So a lot of people would hear this and they're like, oh, it must be about slavery, right? But no, I don't think it's a show about slavery. It's actually a show about women.And the way our society treats women, what if there was a group of people on earth that when they were born preferred to be submissive to another group of people? What if that, and what if our entire planet shamed them for that instinct? Made them feel like garbage for that instinct? Made them feel like they had to go out and try to be these These perfect politicians, these perfect citizens, which is what the Deers feel they have to be.But it's all hollow for them. It's all a facade. Because what they really want is someone to believe in a worthy master to serve. And that is such an offensive idea. You could never say that. It's I mean, I did. I'm going to get canceled for this episode. Of course. Look, I'm not saying I agree with that, but I'm saying some people feel that way.And it is an interesting concept to exploreWould you like to know [00:01:00] more?Simone: All right,Malcolm. So today we're going to talk about various anime shows and what they mean about larger society because, and I think you've made a really interesting observation about this.fiCtion in the past used to be meaningful and something that we talked about in English class because it said something very profound and meaningful about society that was often subversive and that often couldn't be said out loud. So you had to say it through allegory. You had to say it through some like fantasy world or fictional story.And everyone had to infer the meaning, the societal commentary. And now that doesn't really happen in that much in fiction. It's all likeMalcolm: context for this. So first, this is actually our second recording because we both forgot to hit record the first time we were doing this. And so Parts of this are going to sound a little rote.I'm sorry about that. But we did want to do another anime episode because the last one wasn't one of our most watched episodes. People were like, really into it. They were like, actually, like, I'm really nerdy about this stuff and I appreciate you guys talking about it. So we're like, [00:02:00] let's go deeper into this.But I think, soSimone: for non, for non weebs. In this, in this audience and it's not like I'm, I'm a nerd too, but I do think that Malcolm is right in that if you want to see genuinely unique social commentary. You're going to see more of it in anime than you are, especially like also, you know, in Western media these days, so much has been sort of like bankrupt and hollowed out by the woke cult, essentially, that you're not going to see social commentary.You're not going to see some subversive ideas in literature or in mainstream Western media. Where are you seeing it? Anime? So that's why, even if you're not into anime, we recommend. Well, considering some of the shows that we talkMalcolm: about, we're at least considering the analysis. We'll add interesting ones and we'll talk about them later, so people don't need to actually watch the s**t, okay?And this actually comes to a point. Somebody, in our last one, they were like, Oh my god, I can't believe the Collins is. Don't just watch Izekaya, but they watch bottomSimone: tier Izekaya flop. Izekaya. Izekaya is a form of, like, Japanese tapas. [00:03:00]Malcolm: Okay, whatever. Japanese, born in Japan. Anyway, so we no, no, no, but, but I wouldn't have had the revelations I had from that last anime had it not been such a low tier anime.Had it not been such a low quality anime because the low tierness of it stripped out all of the nuance and engaging plot. So I was able to see what the core of the genre actually was with no scaffolding around it. Yeah, like inSimone: other words. Lowbrow media is based and pure and straightforward about everything.And we like that.Malcolm: And, and it can often do things that other media wouldn't. And so this came, got me thinking, like, what anime have I seen where I might not have seen it if I was screening for quality? One that came to mind was one that some people mentioned in the comments, which was Thermae Roma.True classic. Thermae Roma is a terrible Netflix adaptation. Do not watch it on Netflix. Find the original through some streaming site or something. It is. God tier anime, but the animation is basically stills. It [00:04:00] is It's, yeah, it's low effort, it's lowSimone: budget,Malcolm: But what it does is, it's not just, like, a good learning opportunity, but it's, like, a good historic learning opportunity, because it's contrasting through time travel, the