
Season 8 · Episode 37
Affordability Is Now Structural, Not Cyclical
AI for Real Estate · Dr. Adam Gower; Mark Zandi, Chief Economist at Moody's Analytics
December 18, 202547m 13s
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Show Notes
Mark Zandi is one of the few economists who can do two things at once: explain what is happening in the data, and explain why households experience it so differently. He is the chief economist at Moody's Analytics, and in our conversation, the last of my podcast series this year and the second of two Holiday Specials, he connected inflation, affordability, market structure, and geopolitics in a way CRE professionals will recognize immediately. The theme was simple, but not comforting: affordability is no longer a "cycle" story - it is becoming structural. And the US economy is increasingly dependent on a relatively narrow slice of consumers continuing to spend. Zandi's framing matters for sponsors and investors because it changes what "risk" looks like. If the top of the income distribution is carrying demand while the middle and bottom are constrained, the economy can keep moving - but it can also become unusually fragile if equity markets stumble or confidence shifts. He also made a point many people avoid saying plainly: even if AI is transformative, markets may be pricing in an adoption curve that is too fast. That is how you get corrections - not because the technology is useless, but because expectations got ahead of diffusion. Five questions we get into:
- Why has affordability re-emerged so forcefully in 2025 - and why does it feel like it is not going away?
- What does a "K-shaped economy" mean in practical terms for spending, jobs, and social stability?
- If the top 10% accounts for nearly half of spending, what breaks the expansion?
- Is today's AI boom more like 1997 or 2000 - and what would cause a valuation reset?
- Why does deglobalization threaten America's "exorbitant privilege," and what does that mean for markets?
- Straight talk on what happens when confidence meets correction - no hype, no spin, no fluff.
- Real implications of macro trends for investors and sponsors with actionable guidance.
- Insights from real estate professionals who've been through it all before.
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