Acquiring Minds

It CAN be done: Matthew Saskin recently acquired a big towing business, hiring an operator to run it from day 1. Topics in Matthew Saskin’s interview:Why he chose a towing companyPutting in an operator from day oneImprovements he made right awayWhy he kept his day job (and how he manages it)His COO’s compensation packageWhat is phantom equity (and how it’s different from true equity)How real estate investment is different from SMB ownershipThe landscape of the towing industryRevenue streams for towing companiesHow they recruit driversLinks and how to contact Matthew:Matt's business plan. We decided not to link to it directly. Email Matt to request a copy, and he'll share it with you directly 👇👇[email protected] Coast TowingLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Caroline Chapdelaine seized opportunity when a biomed company needed to sell a $2m unit that made special defense tech. Topics in Caroline’s interview:About the defense contracting industryBuying a business in the defense industry (and why it’s hard)Buying a carve-out businessThe unusual terms of a carve-out dealUnforeseen costs after purchasing a carve-outThe benefits of having partnersAssessing the strategic value of your business to its customersRunning out of money months after purchaseGetting an SBA loan against her business assetsRemotely running a California business from UtahLinks and how to contact Caroline:[email protected] PhotonicsConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More Staffing Get complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Despite dire warnings against it, Reg Zeller bought a foundry. He's since bought 6 more & sees a clear path to $100m/yr. Topics in Reg Zeller’s interview:Why he bought a foundry (against everyone’s advice)The famous fetal position storyThe importance of a peer groupHis journey from one acquisition to a holdcoWhy searchers should spend 2 years operating the business they buyReg’s plan to get to $100 millionHow to eliminate key man riskHow Reg found his rockstar COOOpportunities in non-manufacturing spacesThe opportunities in onshoringLinks and how to contact Reg:Twitter CaneKastThe Twitter thread Reg mentionedShoe Dog by Phil KnightHoldCo ConferenceLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition Lab Get a complementary pre-acquisition HR & PEO review for your target business:Contact [email protected] or visit Aspen HRConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Adrian Pinto returns to reflect on his 1.5 years as owner of a landscaping business that he's grown from $3m to $6m/yr. Topics in Adrian’s interview:Buying and growing Georgia ScapesGrowth through acquisition in landscaping Doubling revenue in 18 monthsHis B2B sales processCompetition in landscapingCommercial vs residential landscapingMaintenance work vs project workDue diligence for a landscaping companyBeyond EBITDA: evaluating size of business to buyRisks in acquiring a landscaping businessLinks and how to contact Adrian:[email protected] Georgia ScapesAdrian’s first appearance on Acquiring MindsMike Bodkin on Acquiring MindsLogan and Bradley on Acquiring MindsLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition Lab Get complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Michael Horowitz was looking to buy an independent business when a different path opened up. Today he owns 20 Wingstops. Topics in Michael’s interview:Pros and cons of searching within franchisesWhy Michael was attracted to QSR’s (quick service restaurants)Buying 7 Wingstop locations in OhioWriting an operating agreement for 3 co-ownersDevelopment agreements with franchisesOperating QSR’s during CovidOpening and closing a ghost kitchenDaily operations of owning 20 Wingstop locationsMotivating hourly restaurant employees Michael’s advice for searchers considering QSR’sLinks and how to contact Michael:LinkedInTwitterMichael Horowitz on Franchise EmpiresConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingGet a complementary pre-acquisition HR & PEO review for your target business:Contact [email protected] or visit Aspen HRConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Kaustubh Deo reflects on his first year as the owner of a tree business versus his former life in NYC private equity. Topics in Kaustubh’s interview:Buying a tree service businessBuyer’s vs seller’s discretionary earningsReflecting on 13 months as a business ownerPossibility for roll-upsBeing an outsider in the tree industryChange managementHis thoughts on holdcosMeasuring success for his businessLife as a business owner vs. life in private equityHis advice for searchersLinks and how to contact Kaustubh:[email protected] Kaustubh on Think Like an OwnerBlooma Tree ExpertsGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Adam Duggins had 650 meetings to find his first business in 2013, not expecting he'd buy 3 more over the next 10 years. Topics in Adam Duggins’s interview:Meeting with 650 people (in person!) during his searchHow Adam found his partner & structured their ownershipHow Adam became a holdco without meaning toHow motivating blue collar workers versus white collar careerists is differentWhy Adam prefers working with blue collar versus white collarBuying businesses in overlooked geographiesA bit about each of Adam's 4 businesses: steel fabrication, commercial HVAC, Jet-Hot, boiler servicesWhat to love about businesses in the construction industryStability vs. growthEarly mistakes as an ownerLinks and how to contact Adam:New Page Capital W.C. Rouse Engineered Steel American Industrial ContractorsJet-HotAdam’s email: [email protected] a complementary pre-acquisition HR & PEO review for your target business:Contact [email protected] or visit Aspen HRConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Bruce Vann returns to update us on his manufacturing business, and a thesis around the roll-up of window blinds stores. Topics in Bruce Vann’s interview:Buying a stage curtain/shades businessProfitability of the businessTheir curtain and shades productsAcquiring a blinds companyIntegrating his businessesBruce’s vision for expansionThe possibilities for search in window treatmentsThe feast or famine nature of the businessThe long sales cycleInvesting in a ribbon weight machineBruce’s advice to searchersLinks and how to contact Bruce:[email protected] LuXout Stage CurtainsConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingGet a complementary pre-acquisition HR & PEO review for your target business:Contact [email protected] or visit AspenHRConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

John Ikalowych shares his traumatic journey of going all-in to buy a hail-repair business, then having to shut it down. Topics in John Ikalowych’s interview:John’s background in commercial bankingBuying a car hail repair businessLosing half his staff just months after acquisitionThe disaster that tanked their financesPivoting from B2C to B2BShutting down the businessHow the business failure changed himClosing a business with a personal guaranteeJohn’s advice to searchersThe importance of peer supportLinks and how to contact John:LinkedIn303-704-2461Entrepreneurs’ OrganizationLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Morli Desai left corporate to scratch her entrepreneurial itch, using an SBA loan to buy an ecommerce biz with $1m SDE. Topics in Morli Desai’s interview:Leaving her corporate job at 40Joining the Acquisition LabPurchasing an ecommerce businessHow to approach brokersTransitioning an ecommerce businessPurchasing an Australian entityMarketing with PPCAssessing risk in ecommerceProprietary vs brokered searchInventory management in ecommerceLinks and how to contact Morli:LinkedIn4,000 weeks by Oliver BurkemanSam Harris’s appQuiet LightMarket Watch by CenturicaJoe Mcaleer of Multifunding, LLCJoel AnkneyAmaira Natural SkincareOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Pawel Kosicki learned about buying small businesses in July. By January, he'd bought one himself with 7 figures of SDE. Topics in Pawel Kosicki’s interview:Pawel’s background in engineeringValuation of a home theater/automation companyClosing on his very first LOIFinancing a deal in CanadaHis philosophy on risk in businessThe seller staying on as an employeeMitigating risk in a project-based businessHis plans to grow the businessProjected growth in the home automation industryAdvice for Canadian searchersReferences and how to contact Pawel:[email protected] Kozinski Twitter threadOakville Sight and SoundGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Damon Chlarson takes a job in tech sales, despite having improved the business he bought & surviving a tough year. Topics in Damon’s interview:Damon bought Pacific Insulation Supply, an online wholesalerDifficulties in scaling the insulation business. Overview of sales in the first year Getting a regular W-2 job again New systems he put in place at the business Training his sales teamThe challenges of working from homeHow he runs a business with bipolar disorderFluctuation in demand for home renovations Managing a sales team in the PhilippinesDamon's original appears on Acquiring Minds:Nailing the Trifecta: B2B + Remote + Scalable - Acquiring MindsLinks and how to contact Damon:Pacific Insulation SupplyTwitterLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition Lab Get complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Brenden Van Buren is growing his fencing business, despite the industry's notorious cyclicality & project-based revenue. Topics in Brenden’s interview:Brenden’s family history in the construction businessCo-founding Generational Transfer Entrepreneurs The pros and cons of having a pipeline when starting searchWhy the perfect relationship is better than the perfect businessThe risks associated with construction companiesAcquiring Pro Max Fence SystemsHow he doubled sales in 4.5 yearsThe top mistakes searchers make regarding time management and communicationsThe advantages of proprietary searchSelf-funded vs. traditional searchReferences and how to contact Brenden:Pacific LakeBringing Down the HouseGenerational Transfer EntrepreneursPro Max Fence SystemsLinkedInOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Justin Turner returns with details on 2 new acquisitions by his holdco Traction, plus updates on the existing 4 portcos. Topics in Justin’s interview:Justin helps run investment firm Traction Capital PartnersHow Traction is different from Private EquityThe risks of buying into a franchise networkHow he bought one of his vendorsLessons learned from buying 6 businessesDriving sales in a disaster restoration business Doubling revenue in 5 years for a Fire Department supply business Facing the post-Covid economic downturnRising competition for acquiring a businessTrends in the blue and white collar labor marketJustin's original appears on Acquiring Minds:How to Build a Holdco (4 Acquisitions So Far)Links and How to Contact Justin:LinkedIn TwitterTraction CPGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Michael Arrieta's holdco has made 3 acquisitions since 2020. Sales & culture, not tech, have proven to be the key levers. Topics in Michael’s interview: How he built the holding company Garden CityWhy he is drawn to service businessesHis experience with fast-growth startups in Silicon ValleyHow he almost doubled EBITDA in less than a yearThe mistakes he made with his first acquisitionThe 3 ways he finds companies to buyHow he improves workplace culture in the service industryHow Garden City adds value to their companiesHow to carefully add new technology after acquisitionWhy he is recruiting searchers to run businessesReferences and how to contact Michael:Michael Arrieta's TwitterMichael Arrieta's LinkedInExcellence Wins by Horst SchulzeBrent Beshore's TwitterGarden CityConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

After a rollercoaster year in his appliance repair business, John Schooler returns with scars, wisdom, and optimism. Topics in John’s interview:John bought an appliance repair business 14 months agoHow he runs a repair business without having repair skillsThe disaster that took away 20% of revenue overnightWhy running a business is harder than a marathonThe pros and cons of working with home warranty companiesWhat he would do differently from day oneWhat he learned about retaining employeesHis role in day-to-day operationsHis system for training techniciansJohn's original appearance on Acquiring Minds:Buying a Business & Having a BlastLinks and how to contact John:TwitterLinkedInAppliance ProfessionalTwitter thread mentionedReg ZellerOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Andrew Hitchings bought a $250k SDE cooling biz. It has grown 3x and will now fund a 2nd acquisition, with more to come. Topics in Andrew’s Interview:Andrew and his wife bought a home ventilation business in April 2020How 7 months on a motorcycle prepared them for running a business togetherHis history in the Army, business school, and McKinsey & CompanyHow his business partner Max improved employee trainingWhy he looks at the P&L every dayExpanding their seasonal business to a year-round businessHow they mitigated the risk of buying a business with a single employeeThree things a business owner should focus onWhy they hire for character, not experienceHis strategy for building a holdcoReferences and how to contact Andrew:LinkedInHis partner: Marcela FernandezHis other partner: Max WilliamsColorado Home ServicesHBR Guide to Buying a Small BusinessGreg AmbrosiaChenmarkConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Andrew Sieve saw his life implode after COVID. Buying a highly profitable 40-year-old restaurant turned things around. Topics in Andrew’s interview: Andrew’s family history of owning and operating restaurantsWhy he prefers smaller restaurantsThe tragedies of 2020 that led to him exiting his family’s businessMoving from Minneapolis to Colorado to start overHow a chance meeting led to him buying a restaurantHow they achieved a smooth transition What factors make restaurants difficult businessesThe risks in acquiring an institutional legacy restaurantHow he funded his acquisition through a community bankHis vision for the next 5 yearsLinks and how to contact Andrew:LinkedInBigger Pockets Real EstateBigger Pockets MoneyConnect with A-players who can run your business remotely:More StaffingGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter

Paul Quirk acquired a $800k EBITDA window & door business in the UK, continuing to live with his family in Switzerland. Topics in Paul's interview:Paul’s experience with JP Morgan in Geneva3 biggest differences between acquisition in the UK vs the USThe variety of ways Paul reached out to businesses during searchHis decision to start the Buy and Build podcastHow he decided to buy a window/door installation businessThe changes he made to the company’s processesWhy he redesigned the company’s finance teamPros and cons of a “first day speech”His weekly commute between Geneva and Norwich, UKThe future of his own podcastReferences and how to reach Paul:Paul Quirk's LinkedInAmber Home ImprovementsBuy and Build podcast - Brad Nathan episode - Gerald Ratner episode - Simon Webster episodeOwned and Operated podcastThink Like an Owner podcastThe SMB OPS Show podcastRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Shortly after his first interview in June, Jason Andrews sold his business to a strategic buyer for a life-changing sum. Topics in Jason's interview:Jason's recent exit of the group purchasing organization (GPO) he acquired in 2016How he had grown the business 50-60% without increasing staffThe downside of buying a super-niche businessThe advantages of acquiring a bigger businessHow his sales background influenced the way he restructured the companyWhy he says “don’t pay down your debt too fast”How he finds support in a local business leader groupThe fun part of running his businessWhy you may need to reconsider your growth modelWhat’s on his post-exit bucket listJason's original appearance on Acquiring Minds:Buying a High 7 Figure Business with a Buy-Side AdvisorReferences and how to reach Jason:Jason's TwitterJason's LinkedInBuilt to Sell by John WarrillowOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Chirag Shah applied systems from his days as a product manager to find & acquire a dog-training business with $600k SDE. Topics from Chirag's interview:Chirag’s background as a small business underwriterHis experience in the Acquisition LabHow a virtual assistanct and a Notion database helped narrow his searchHis decision to buy a Sit Means Sit franchiseWhy 2021 was a banner year for dog trainingHow franchises compare in terms of flexibilityHow much he pays in monthly franchise feesThe dog training method Sit Means Sit usesWhy Austin, Texas, is a prime location for dog trainingHow Profit First influences his practicesReferences and how to contact Chirag:Sit Means SitProfit FirstTwitterLinkedInRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Brian Beers, owner of 30 Midas locations, teaches how to acquire an empire with seller financing for retiring owners. Topics from Brian's interview:How Brian’s family got him into owning Midas franchisesWhat makes the auto repair industry uniqueWhat kind of person would enjoy running a franchiseQuestions to ask before buying a franchiseHow seller financing is different with franchiseesService franchises vs retail franchisesHow to approach buying a franchiseHow a franchise broker can help youWhat makes a good operatorWhy buying small isn’t always badReferences & how to contact Brian:Brian Beers TwitterBrian Beers LinkedInBusiness with Beers PodcastGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Tyler O'Connor bought a 20-year-old golf school he found on BizBuySell doing mid-7 figures with 35% margins. Topics in Tyler's interview:Why Tyler decided to buy a businessHow he got his wife on board with buying a businessThe two books he recommends to every searcherWhy he decided against buying a “boring” businessThe one worry that kept him up at nightWhy he had to decline an investor at the last minuteWhy he bought his first LOI: Bird Golf AcademyHis advice about who to invest withWhy he prefers older employees in his businessThe perks of owning a golf businessLinks & how to contact Tyler:Bird Golf AcademyBruce MarksHBR Guide to Buying a Small BusinessPursuant Capital [email protected] more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Patrick Dichter returns to update us on a productive first year as CEO of a bookkeeping business he bought in late 2021. Topics in Patrick's interview:How Patrick acquired a bookkeeping business without an accounting backgroundThree factors that led to 60% revenue increase in year oneWhy there’s a shortage of accountants and how that affects his businessWhat makes tax prep difficult to offshore Which kind of firms to “stay the f*** away” from Why rollups don’t work in accountingHow he turns tax prep clients into year-round clientsAcquisition vs organic growthThe one thing he wishes he’d done differentlyWhy he advocates buying smallLinks & how to reach Patrick:First episode with Patrick: ‍Shut Out by Industry Brokers, an Entrepreneur Finds a WayFirst episode with Chris Williams: ‍Stay Open to the Many Flavors of SearchSecond episode with Chris Williams: ‍1 Year Later as Buyer of a $1m EBITDA BusinessAppletree Business ServicesPatrick's TwitterPatrick's LinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Multiple perspectives today as Chelsea Wood of the Acquisition Lab moderates a panel with 3 women who bought businesses. Topics from the panel:Cassie Niekamp bought the first company she looked at: a 40-year old fencing companyHow she dealt with a $200k valuation gapWhat went well with the transition and what didn’t go wellAnne Ristic left a 30-year career in law to buy a businessHow her collaborative leadership style has served herWhy it’s okay if you don’t have all the skills you needMorli Desai purchased an e-commerce skincare businessHer difficulty getting sellers to talk to herHow joining Acquisition Lab made all the difference in her searchAdvice from all the guests about successful acquisitionReferences and how to contact the panelists:Cassi Niekamp - LinkedInCassi's business, Bowden Fence CompanyMorli Desai - LinkedInMorli's business, Amaira Natural SkincareAnne Ristic - LinkedInAnne's business, AESChelsea Wood - LinkedInAcquisition Lab4000 Weeks by Oliver BurkemanBuy Then Build by Walker DeibelRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Jacob Lee signed up for 10 locations in the Scenthound franchise after deciding it was a better opportunity than search. Topics in Jacob's interview:Why starting franchise locations makes more sense than buying a businessReturn on equity in franchising vs. searchGetting over pride when choosing to franchiseHow Jacob selected Scenthound from 4,000 franchise optionsOther franchises Jacob consideredHow to analyze a franchise opportunity (especially a young one)All about Scenthound - concept, numbers, feesFranchising compoundsHow to build 10 units over 4 years (plus the 2 key hires that make it possible)Using SBA loans in franchisingReferences & how to reach Jacob:Jacob's Twitter thread cited in the interviewScenthoundBrent BeshoreTommy's Express Car WashThe Joint ChiropracticLinkedIn@jacoblee295j lee AT scenthound dot comGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Jules Brenner searched for 2.5 years before buying a manufacturer with great tailwinds and a path to $100m in revenue. Topics in Jules' interview:Jules's background in mechanical engineering & California startupsStarting out with Searchfunder.comThe difficulty of searching during COVIDThe 4 tiers of manufacturing companiesWhat type of manufacturing business to buyHis deal with an architectural lighting manufacturer that fell throughSam Rosati's role as an advisorWhat Jules was doing wrong in his searchThe real purpose of a brokerHow sellers always gets what they wantAcquiring and growing American Sheet MetalResources and how to reach Jules:LinkedInEmail: [email protected] SuccessionAmerican Sheet MetalLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Sarah Romer bought a large but tired hair salon in Austin for $80k. Her first year as owner was the hardest of her life. (This is a rebroadcast from November 2021.)Themes from Sarah's interview:The formula for estimating the value of a salon or beauty businessWhat to do when sellers overestimate the worth of their companyWhere to cut costs after you’ve made an acquisition Underestimating the importance of company cultureThe stress of owning and managing a retail businessThe process of exiting a business you’ve acquiredReach Sarah at:Sarah dot Romer at gmail dot comRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteOriginal episode page & show notes at AcquiringMinds.co:How to Buy a Salon as an Industry Outsider (and Survive)Connect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Twitter-famous Wolf of Franchises on why & how you should buy existing franchise businesses, including lots of examples. Themes from the conversation with Wolf:Pros/cons of acquiring an existing franchise businessWhy buy 1 franchise business (even if SDE is just $100k)Opportunity & perils of rolling up franchisesIf you can grow from 1 to 2 locations, magicHow to assess health of a franchise brandBreaking into mature franchises as an acquisition entrepreneur4 mature franchise brands Wolf likes (plus 1 he hates)Why to avoid food franchisesHow to gauge risk of new franchise brandsAvoid these 2 common mistakes made by franchiseesLinks & how to reach the Wolf:How a $40k Acquisition Led to a Franchise Empire - interview with James Temple, multi-unit Mathnasium ownerMichael Horowitz (Wingstop multi-unit owner)Brian Beers (Midas multi-unit owner)Lucas Mitchell (Five Guys multi-unit owner)Wisconsin's franchise disclosure document (FDD) [email protected] complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Online course businesses have dazzling margins but a key weakness. Dom Wells explains how to acquire one & make it work. Topics from the interview with Dom:Opportunity for acquisition entrepreneurs to buy a course businessWhat to look for when acquiring a courseThe role a course founder's personal story playsHow to ease the founder's face out of the brandWhy faces of successful students of the course are actually more valuableHow courses can charge so much ($500 and more)Buying underperforming Udemy coursesImportance of marketing funnels to a course businessOngoing development costs of a course (vs. SaaS)Links & how to contact Dom:Proofread AnywhereMore backstory on Proofread Anywhere: How I Built A $200K/Month Business Selling Proofreading CoursesUdemy@DomWellsOnfolioLinkedInOnfolioRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

David Page bought a Bay Area wine business in 2010, against the advice of colleagues. 12 years later, it's 5x larger. Topics in David's interview:Don't avoid "buying a job"... because you ARE buying a jobBuying a business before "search" was well knownBuying a circus business (almost)Humble, scrappy beginnings after acquiringBuying in cash, no loanInevitable surprises you find post-acquisitionBrutal first 6 monthsThe niche of private wine grape growingGrowing 5x since acquisitionHow to keep employees happyReferences & how to reach David:FarmersOnly.comPost & TrellisLinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Chris Williams was a guest in 2021, just after his acquisition. He returns to share how it's going now, 14 months later. Topics from Chris's interview:System Six's growth in the first 14 monthsWhat Chris wishes he had done differently during transitionHiring challenges and how to hire from withinHow he has learned salesWhy he likes to serve searcher-acquired businessesThe first step in being a great workplaceTraditional vs. self-funded searchWhy revenue growth does not always equal EBITDA growthPricing challenges in the bookkeeping industryDoes more investors mean more help & guidance?References & how to reach Chris:His first episode on Acquiring Minds: ‍Stay Open to the Many Flavors of SearchSystem SixLinkedIn, Twitter, [email protected] more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Key findings from SIG's new study on self-funded search: financial outcomes, deal costs & terms, search lengths & more. Topics from the interview with SIG:What is the self-funded search study & why it mattersEffect of self-funded search on entrepreneurs' net worthsSearch performance: how many acquisitions saw EBITDA shrink, maintain, or grow How much is too much to pay for legal fees & due diligenceThe pros and cons of a seller noteWhy you don’t need an MBA to acquire a businessValue of a good relationship with a sellerHow long search takes, on averageWhy acquisition will only get more competitive in the futureDrawback of a private equity backgroundWhat critics get wrong about self-funded searchMethodology & shortcomings of the studyDownload the study:2023 Self-Funded Search StudyLinks, References, and Contacts:Self-Funded vs. Traditional Search Fund debate between Robert Graham & Greg GeronemusRobert Graham - LinkedIn and TwitterJordan Carter - LinkedIn and TwitterSearch Investment Group (SIG)Stanford Search Fund Study 2022Overhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

How Bradley Roofner & Logan Brown transformed a tough, project-based landscaping biz into a recurring revenue machine. (This is the second part of a 2-part interview.) Themes from the interview with Bradley & Logan:Buying, growing, and selling a local service business for $20m+Why landscaping still has lots of opportunityHow to transform a project-based business into a recurring-revenue businessHow to build a sales function in a local service businessWhy building a sales function is better for growth than acquiring tuck-insHow to convert 25% of sales opportunitiesWorking capital as oxygenWhite-glove service in a blue-collar industryWhy you should build a credit departmentWhat it's like to sell to a publicly-traded corporationLinks & how to reach Bradley & LoganLinkedIn: Bradley Roofner, Logan BrownBrightViewBuilt To Sell, the book that informed their productization strategyBrent BeshoreArticle 1 referenced in valuation estimate: BrightView and the need for growthArticle 2 referenced in valuation estimate: LM150: 2020 rankingsOverhaul your website with ongoing support & unlimited edits, all for a flat monthly fee:EversiteRegister for a live gathering of SMB, Micro-PE, and ETA owners, operators and investors:SMBashConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

How Bradley Roofner & Logan Brown transformed a tough, project-based landscaping biz into a recurring revenue machine. Themes from the interview with Bradley & Logan:Buying, growing, and selling a local service business for $20m+Why landscaping still has lots of opportunityHow to transform a project-based business into a recurring-revenue businessHow to build a sales function in a local service businessWhy building a sales function is better for growth than acquiring tuck-insHow to convert 25% of sales opportunitiesWorking capital as oxygenWhite-glove service in a blue-collar industryWhy you should build a credit departmentWhat it's like to sell to a publicly-traded corporationLinks & how to reach Bradley & LoganLinkedIn: Bradley Roofner, Logan BrownBrightViewBuilt To Sell, the book that informed their productization strategyBrent BeshoreArticle 1 referenced in valuation estimate: BrightView and the need for growthArticle 2 referenced in valuation estimate: LM150: 2020 rankingsGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

A husband & wife bought a therapy practice for $120k, almost dumped it, then grew it for 8 years when PE came knocking. (This is a rebroadcast from November 2021.) Themes from Neil's interview:Growing a mental health practice from $615k/year to $2M. How working in your acquired business (not on it) can save youOwning a business with your spouseEquipment leasing as a solution to keeping overhead costs low To sue or not to sue (the seller, post-acquisition)Preferring businesses for sale rather than cold outreach to ownersWhen to sell a fast-growing businessReach Neil at:@neilsaidwhatLinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

JD Klein bought a print shop for $100k, thinking such a small acquisition carried little risk. The opposite was true. (This is a rebroadcast from December 2021.) Themes from JD's interview:Running a strong-growth, low-margin businessSelling your house to make ends meetWhy very small businesses come with higher riskAcquirers should hire a financial plannerPivoting your strategy when uncontrollable roadblocks emergePros & cons of the printing industry for acquirersPersonal victories vs. financial victoriesReach JD at:@jdklein33LinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Acquiring Minds will start publishing twice per week. Host Will Smith explains the rationale for this decision. Get complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

When Fraser Voll first learned about buying businesses, he couldn't stop reading about it. That passion paid dividends. Topics in Fraser's interview:What working for a boutique M&A advisory taught him about buying businessesAnatomy of a self-funded search deal WITHOUT an SBA loanHow to get a good multiple (3x) on a $600-800k EBITDA businessWhat Fraser bought: revenue, margins, price, terms, etc.Getting comfortable with high customer concentrationHow to de-risk buying a business whose revenue doubled in prior 2 yearsHow to structure an earnoutJanitorial industry: how to achieve high margins, retain labor, and moreSearch in CanadaWhy small business became more attractive than softwareLinks & how to reach Fraser:Fraser's LinkedInPortage M&A AdvisoryConstellation SoftwareMario Nigro, searcher connector in CanadaGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Chris Koerner acquired a bitcoin mining facility he found on BizBuySell for $750k and now employees 11 people. Topics in Chris's interview:Bitcoin mining 101Challenge of finding real estate to host bitcoin minersEconomics & ROI of bitcoin miningUsing BizBuySell to find bitcoin mining facilitiesPrice & deal terms to acquire a bitcoin mining facility in TexasThe business of hosting bitcoin minersWhy it's difficult to buy minersThe business of reselling bitcoin minersHow the crypto winter has affected profitabilityCrazy story of partnering with the late John McAfeeLinks & how to reach Chris:Mining Syndicate (Chris's bitcoin mining facility)Video tour of Mining SyndicateBizyJohn McAfee's tweet of Chris's project No BSJohn McAfee interview by the Australian film crew (filmed the day Chris visited)LinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Trevor Boehm shares how Saturn Five started as a venture studio but found buying small businesses a better model. Topics in Trevor's interview:First rule of holdcos: Do No HarmBenefits of buying businesses in a single geographyWhat makes for a good owner-operator?How Saturn Five finds operatorsLoneliness as owner-operator of a small businessGreat hack for new owner-operatorsWhy "boring" businesses aren't boringAdvice to someone considering buying a small businessAdvice to entrepreneurs wanting to build a holdcoWho is Saturn Five (and why you haven't heard of them)Links & how to contact Trevor:Saturn FiveAcquiring Minds episode with Andrew Harbin discussing loneliness as a new SMB owner [at 1:02:10]Acquiring Minds episode with Cassi Neikamp discussing building an industry mastermind to combat loneliness & speed learning [at 58:19]LinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Shane Ehrsam went full-time in his search & used systematic broker outreach to buy a great business in his local market. Topics in Shane's interview:Why he didn't acquire a franchise resaleShane's experience in the Acquisition Lab, Walker Deibel's program to buy a businessWhy talking to other searchers is so important before beginning your own searchMechanics of his broker outreachImportance of cold calling brokersBuying a business in stock (vs. the more traditional asset purchase)All about the dealership businessFull standby note — what is it?Day 1 experienceHow being an SMB owner feels different than life in corporateLinks & how to reach Shane:Acquisition LabEpisode with Jordan Carter about full-time vs. part-time searching: A Brutal Search Rewarded with Success After 3 YearsEpisode with Jesse Sunquist on: Reflections After 1 Year of Searching Full TimeEpisode with Doug Johns about building rapport with sellers & brokers: Opening Up to Franchises to Buy a Great BusinessSurface area of luckNorth Texas TrailersLinkedInshane AT ntxtrailers DOT comGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Jordan Novgrod sold his house, tapped his 401k, and went all-in to buy an $800k SDE business he found on BizBuySell. Topics in Jordan's interview:Finding a great business on BizBuySellBlogging the search processKey rule of thumb on SDEImportance of buyer-seller chemistryMachine shop businesses - pros & consTransferring key relationships post-saleDay 1 speechHow Jordan built rapport with his new employeesLinks & how to reach Jordan:Rich Dad Poor DadSweaty StartupSearch Investment Group (SIG)Jordan's substack: Small Business Acquisition@JordanNovgrodLinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Burk Adams tapped his 401k to buy a business that reinvented his career, gave him back time, and catapulted his wealth. Topics in Burk's interview:Using your 401k to buy a business with ROBSBuying a business being the most impactful thing he's done in his lifeRealities of a C corp vs. LLCTeaching his kids acquisition entrepreneurshipHow it seems easier to have bought a business in 2015 than nowThe feeling of giant SBA loan repayments every monthHis business acquisition being a full sendHow he thought about the failure riskWhy he liked PC EnclosuresAcquisition price & numbersBuying a $2.6m business while only having $100k in cashRevenue numbersHandling the brutal first 6 months (and how it was healthy for the future)What's worse: depression or panic?Strong growth in the last few yearsHow to think about one-off purchase vs. recurring revenue businessesHow to think about buying a manufacturing businessSmall business ownership vs. being a consultant2 new businesses that have come out of his acquisitionLinks & how to reach Burk:PC EnclosuresStorm Shell, Burk's outdoor TV enclosure business targeting consumersBackyard Snowstorm, the snowmaking business Burk started with his sonGuidant FinancialLinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

It looked like a dream: $2m EBITDA, recurring, large market. Only after Judd Lorson bought it did he learn the truth. Topics in Judd's interview:Searchfund accelerator pros & consUnderstanding investors' role in your acquisitionImportance of 100% transparency with employees (even pre-acquisition)Debt collection business pros & consDiscovery that he's acquired a bad businessManaging hostility with sellersWhat is the proper attitude for buying a business?How to resign as CEO the right wayLinks & how to reach Judd:Original case note from Yale about Judd's storyThe Acquiring Minds debate about Self-Funded Search vs. Traditional Search Fundsjudd DOT lorson AT gmailLinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Taylor Wallace was over tech. He acquired a small business and with it a renewed sense of impact (and opportunity). Topics in Taylor's interview:Tech burnoutWorking in tech vs. running a small businessBuying indy vs. franchiseInjecting tech-industry best practices & ambition into small businessHow do friends in tech respond to his foray into doggy daycares?Going from digital nomad to brick-and-mortar business owner in TampaIncreasing doggy daycare capacity 2xWill more than 2x revenue by next yearWhat he paid (roughly) for 1st and 2nd acquisitionsGrowth strategyBuying small vs. buying bigDoggy daycare business - should you do it?Links & how to reach Taylor:Paws 'n' RecBaton@taywallLinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Episode 100! To celebrate, 5 early guests come back to share how things are going at their acquisitions, 1 year later. 2:48 - Chris Edwards acquired a flooring business18:15 - Philippe Vanderhoydonck, a B2B media business in the pets industry35:49 - Cassi Niekamp, a fencing business1:02:12 - Andrew Pierno is buying multiple small SaaS businesses1:25:54 - Mike Botkin bought a small landscaping business and has quickly parlayed that into becoming a player in the landscaping industryLinks to guests' previous episodes:Chris Edwards - How to Survive Acquiring a $3.5m Flooring Business.Philippe Vanderhoydonck - How to Acquire Your First Business in 3 MonthsCassi Niekamp - Buying a $1.2m Fencing Business & Earning Trust QuicklyAndrew Pierno - How to Build a Portfolio of Micro SaaS BusinessesMike Botkin, first ep - How to Buy a Landscaping Biz & Boost Profits QuickMike Botkin, second ep - How to Buy Landscaping BusinessesGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:YouTube channel (easy access to all interviews)Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Andrew Harbin first bought an awning business, then bought a fencing franchise to keep his crew working through summer. Topics in Andrew's interview:Should you buy a seasonal business?Buying a second business to offset seasonality of first businessTwitter thread that opened his eyes to building wealth by buying a businessBuying a business that is for sale by ownerRevenue + SDE of the awning business he acquiredGrowth he's achieved in first years of ownershipHow the awning business works (revenue sources, staffing, org chart)Buying a $300-400k SDE businessWhy hiring temps for seasonal businesses is unappealingFencing business: buying vs. starting from scratch vs. starting a franchisePros/cons of franchisesBig Jerry's fencing franchiseTips for entrepreneurs considering buying a fencing businessNature of stress in SMB vs. corporateLoneliness of being a small business ownerLinks & how to reach Andrew:Twitter thread that turned Andrew on to buying a businessVenango AwningBig Jerry's Fencing@ADHarbinGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:YouTube channel (easy access to all past + future interviews)Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

James Temple & his mother acquired a struggling Mathnasium franchise in 2009. Today, they do $7m across 19 locations. Topics in James' interview:Buying vs. starting a franchise locationIs rolling up easier in a franchise system?Turning around underperforming franchise locationsHow to assess the risk of a franchise system3 criticisms of franchises that MBA student always haveNumbers behind his first acquisitionGrowing to 19 franchise locations in 13 yearsHow a 19-unit franchise business is structured & operatedEvaluating franchise opportunities from a risk-adjusted perspectiveRevenue range of Mathnasium franchisesMathnasium feesWhat exactly do you get from a franchisor for the franchise fee?Passion and purpose — is it necessary?Franchise consultants (and how they are incentivized)How to start investigating opportunities if you're interested in a particular franchiseLinks & how to reach James:MathnasiumFDD ExchangeLinkedInGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:YouTube channel (easy access to all past + future interviews)Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter

Sumana Sanjeeva got into ecommerce by chance. 3 years later, she's acquired 4 ecom businesses & sold one for over $5m. Topics from Sumana's interview:Brick & mortar vs ecommerce businessesBest type of ecommerce to buy for a first-timerBuying an ecommerce business knowing very little about itLearning quickly how to sell on AmazonFinding an ecommerce business on BizBuySellTerms of her dealOne decision that made the business thrive during COVIDSelling to aggregatorsTalking to 14 of themTerms of her saleCash flow issues with a growing ecommerce businessHer 3 new ecommerce acquisitionsFocusing exclusively on FBARunning in-person learning center franchisesHow to reach Sumana:LinkedInsanjeevasumana AT gmailGet complimentary due diligence on your acquisition's insurance & benefits program:Oberle Risk Strategies - Search Fund TeamLearn more about Walker Deibel's done-with-you buy-side advisory:The Acquisition LabConnect with Acquiring Minds:YouTube channel (easy access to all past + future interviews)Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on Twitter