WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

In a follow-up to their broader discussion on the impact of 1943 on the Second World War, Al Murray and James Holland focus on the Italian campaign and the events that led to the Italian surrender. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After their barnstorming Stalingrad series, Al Murray and James Holland turn their sights to the importance of 1943, a year of incredible events at sea, in the air and on land. Was this the pivotal year in which Nazi Germany should have thrown in the towel? A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From flying in state fairs to planning strategic bombing missions over Europe, what was the experience of the young men that dedicated their war to serving with the 8th Airforce Bomber Command? Al Murray, James Holland and John McManus discuss in another thrilling WHW USA special. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While researching his latest book in Italy, James Holland sets his sights on the picturesque harbour city of Messina. Walking the ground, admiring its rolling hills, and crossing the exact same evacuation routes as troops did nearly 80 years ago, he details the 8th Army's Invasion of Italy. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re taking to the air today, with Battle of Britain expert Andy Saunders. Together, the trio explore the infamous german ‘Stuka’ dive bomber: its engineering, the mythology that surrounded it, and the role it played in the epic battle. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For the final installment of our Stalingrad series, John McManus explains the baffling scale of lend lease between the US and the Soviet Union and how it helped make victory in Stalingrad possible. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today, Al and James are joined by legendary historian Sir Anthony Beevor. They discuss his seminal book on the topic and his extraordinary experience in the Russian archives during the mid-1990s. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As winter grips the ruins of Stalingrad, General Zhukov’s ambitious plan to end the stalemate is put into action Al and James discuss why Hitler refused to surrender, and why the Nazi war machine was doomed from the start. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the third instalment of our Stalingrad series, Al Murray and James Holland reach the devastating fighting that takes place within Stalingrad's factories, tunnel systems and family homes. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What prevented the Nazis from capturing Stalingrad and the rest of the Soviet Union with ease as they did in Western Europe? As the battle for Stalingrad begins, Al Murray and James Holland look at the importance of the city for the Soviet Union and the health of the Nazi war machine. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week is 80 years since the end of the Battle of Stalingrad and we're running a special series to mark the occasion. In the first episode of the series James and Al set the scene from the beginning of 1942, explaining the scale of the Eastern Front and the mindsets of Hitler and Stalin at that point in the war We're also introduced to Freidrich Paulus, who found himself in command of the German 6th Army despite his lack of field experience. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The 27th of January is Holocaust Memorial Day, to commemorate this day we are re-sharing our interview with the Holocaust survivor, Selma Van De Perre. Selma van de Perre was a Dutch resistance fighter who was just 17 years old when the Second World War began. Using an alias and fake ID she risked her life travelling across the Netherlands, delivering Allied newspapers and helping Jews evade the Nazis. In July 1944 Selma's luck ran out. She was captured and transported to Ravensbrück as a political prisoner, where she remained until her liberation in 1945. James Holland interviews Selma about her extraordinary wartime story. A Goalhanger Films production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: www.wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al and James often talk about 'walking the ground', but what about 'playing the ground'? Wargamer Nick Skinner takes the boys on a crash course on the hobby, and what wargaming can teach us about the Second World War. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How much do you know about the relationship between the Royal Navy and pirates during the Second World War? Vichy France, Hawker Typhoons, and a Jamaican epic are the topics on today's podcast - plus there's also a sneak preview of James' latest book on Italy during the War... A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

James Holland, Al Murray, and John McManus continue their conversation on the mobilisation of the US army. What pushed the nation over the edge into full mobilisation and what were the repercussions of this monumental decision? A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“He didn’t go to serve his majesty, he went to fight Hitler, the general consensus in the Caribbean was that if the Nazis defeated Britain, the Caribbean would return to slavery” Mark Johnson joins Al and Jim to discuss the stories and motivations of Caribbean volunteers, including his great uncle John J. Blair. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al and James discuss the Sherman Tank, and why the German’s lack of tanks cost them the war. They also chat about Douglas Porch’s book: Defeat and Division A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Harry Lineker Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al, James, and John McManus set their sights on Lieutenant General Holland Smith and Major General Ralph Smith, charting their relationship over the Second World War as their personalities and approaches clash. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Who was Peter White - writer of the incredibly influential war memoir 'With The Jocks'? Al Murray and James Holland speak to Andy Aitcheson about the man behind the book. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland delve deep into the re-discovered war diaries of Italy veteran Lawrence Vale. They also discuss tank warfare after reading a casualties report on the Sherman tank. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Harry Lineker Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Al Murray, James Holland and John C. McManus discuss Salerno. What was the importance of Operation Avalanche - and is history's assessment of Mark Clark fair? A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In case you missed it - a re-uploaded version of our January 1st interview with Sebastian Faulks Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In our final Christmas special, Al and James take turns reading the diary entries of servicemen in Sicily during the harsh winter of 1943. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As our Christmas series continues, today we let our very own Al Murray take control. In this episode Al speaks about his recent trip to South Africa to walk the ground of Rorke's Drift - the setting of one of his favourite films to watch over Christmas - 'Zulu'. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This year, Al and James are inviting famous fans onto the podcast to chew the cud about the Second World War as part of our special Christmas series. In this episode, we are very lucky to be joined by Ian Lavender, the comedy legend that played Private Pike in Dad's Army. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today on We Have Ways Christmas Specials, Al and James are joined by historian and friend of the show Dan Snow to discuss logistics during the war. Dan also explains why the Second World War is the greatest story in human history. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Our run of Christmas special episodes continues today with author Sebastian Faulks talking to Al and James about his passion for the subject and his father's role in the war. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This year, Al and James are inviting famous fans onto the podcast to chew the cud about the Second World War for our Christmas series. Today Susan Eisenhower, the granddaughter of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, tells us about his wartime leadership and growing up in such a prestigious American family. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For this year's Christmas series, Al and James are inviting famous fans onto the podcast to chew the cud about the Second World War. Rory Stewart and James Holland explore the topic of loss in today's episode. Rory’s father and uncle, inseparable and having spent every waking moment together, are torn apart and sent off to fight in different theatres (Normandy and Sicily respectively) where Rory’s uncle dies tragically. In the second half, the pair discuss the legacy of the Second World War. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Next up in our Christmas specials series is chef and author Jack Stein, who talks about life on the home front and the complexities of rationing during the war. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the next of our Christmas series specials, Ghosts and Horrible Histories star Ben Willbond talks about growing up in the cadets and how his passion for history has influenced his acting and writing career. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For this year's Christmas series, Al and James are inviting famous fans onto the podcast to chew the cud about the Second World War. Top Gear and The Grand Tour presenter James May expresses his hatred of the Volkswagen Beetle, his interest in German war planes and his 45-year-long Airfix obsession. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's Christmas special, BBC Newscaster Sophie Raworth tells Al and James about her grandfather's role as a home-front doctor in the Second World War and how he revolutionised the rehabilitation system for injured miners. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This year, Al and James are inviting famous fans onto the podcast to chew the cud about the Second World War. Today, TV presenter and broadcaster Dermot O'Leary discusses writing about the war for children, SAS Rogue Heroes and the best Second World War film to watch on Christmas day. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How did the US Military become the powerhouse it is today? John C. McCManus talks about the political decisions that caused the US Army to expand massively in the early 1940s. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former race car driver and broadcaster Tiff Needell speaks to Al and James about his great uncle Sir Richard Fairey - the experimental aircraft engineer. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As an early Christmas gift, we're releasing Al Murray and James Holland's conversation about Command from the National Army Museum. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Special guest John McManus joins Al and Jim to talk about Robert L. Eichelberger, the US General who commanded the Eighth United States Army in the Southwest Pacific (with a few obligatory digressions along the way). A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al and James are joined by economist and journalist Duncan Weldon for a deep dive into the money that funded the Second World War. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al and James go through the Alexander Collection from The National Archives to discuss morale, welfare and discipline of the Allies in Italy and the Mediterranean throughout the war. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Harry Lineker Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Tickets for #WHWF3 are now on sale EXCLUSIVELY to members of the Independent Company! http://patreon.com/wehaveways Ticket prices are frozen for a limited window, don't miss out. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al and James continue their USA series with historian John C. McManus. They discuss two of the United States’ most iconic commanders - George S. Patton and Omar Bradley. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al and James speak to American lawyer Peter Kentz about Operation Retribution, the air and naval blockade designed to prevent the seaborne evacuation of Axis forces from Tunisia to Sicily in May 1943. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

James talks about his recent trip to Northern Ireland and the pair discuss the shipping production during the Second World War. Al chats about the upcoming documentary 'Spike Milligan:The Unseen Archive' which will air on Sky Arts this Wednesday 7th December. Al also reviews 'The Pacific' after watching it for the first time. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Harry Lineker Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Tickets for #WHWF3 are now on sale EXCLUSIVELY to members of the Independent Company! http://patreon.com/wehaveways Ticket prices are frozen for a limited window, don't miss out. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the second part of our General MacArthur podcast, John C. McManus goes into detail on the American’s reputation with the Allies and Axis Powers. WHW USA runs every Friday, focusing solely on the American side of the Second World War. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Nicole Maslen Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In New Orleans, James Holland speaks to Saul David and Henry Sledge - the son of legendary writer Eugene Sledge, the author of the memoir ‘With The Old Breed’. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland delve into the world of Second World War books and memoirs, plus they further explore the story of Italy’s war. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Harry Lineker Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Who was General MacArthur? Al Murray, James Holland and special guest John C. McManus debate one of the most influential, but controversial, generals in the US Army. WHW USA will run every Friday, focusing solely on the American side of the Second World War. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland are joined by Emmy nominated screenwriter Robert Child to speak about the incredible lives of the seven African-American soldiers who, despite serving their country and showing extraordinary bravery, were denied the Medal of Honour for more than 50 years. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland tuck into some diaries, plus look into some of the greatest Second World War Blunders A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Harry Lineker Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland talk about the chaotic final days of the Second World War, including the horrific reality of soldiers having to fight when they knew it was already over. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Harry Lineker Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices