WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

It’s the 31st of March 1943 and Convoy HX231 sets off from New York. Sir Charles Ramsey is the commodore of the convoy but he is low on ships for protection - will they get across the Atlantic without being pounced upon by the Nazi Wolfpack? A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Social: @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The existence of African-American soldiers has all but been erased from the popular narrative of the Second World War. James Holland and John McManus speak to the esteemed writer and academic Matthew Delmont to help explain how the experience of nearly a million black men on the front line impact the outcome of the war, but also laid the groundwork for the Civil Rights movement in the latter half of the 20th century. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Social: @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the first of a three part series, Al Murray and James Holland discuss the journey of Convoy HX231. Today, they chat about the build up to its launch from New York in March 1943 - including how Atlantic convoys were set up during the Second World War and the ever present threat of the Nazi Wolfpack. We Have Ways Fest is back! Tickets for 2024 available at wehavewaysfest.co.uk A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray, James Holland and John McManus discuss the deadly battle on Tarawa. A close quarters and bloody fight for a small atoll in the central Pacific Why was it so brutal, and how did their leaders convince the counterparts to fight to the last man? A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland catch up on their latest research and after some revelatory peering down rabbit holes look back to this week in 1943 to explore the war in Italy, the role of Charles De Gaulle in Lebanon, the birth of the United Nations and the complexity of the Cairo Conference. Tickets for We Have Ways Fest 2024 are on sale now! Find out more now... wehavewaysfest.co.uk A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland speak to actress, comedian and political campaigner Suzy Eddie Izzard about their lifelong love for the Second World War. In another jam-packed episode of war waffle, Suzy discusses the difference between performing stand up in Germany and France, playing a Nazi alongside Tom Cruise in the film Valkyrie, and her incredible 1940s themed model railway. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tribal Class Destroyers, what was life like serving on them - and what is a Destroyer? Al Murray and James Holland go into detail into the staffing, roles and weapons that could be found on an Allied Navy Destroyer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland speak to decorated Marine Corps officer and former United States senator Jim Webb. They discuss the evolution of the US Marine Corps between the two world wars, including the lessons learned from the disaster of Galipoli. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland read Second World War manuals produced by the British and American Army. They detail the unbelievable difficulty that XXX Corps faced in Arnhem, and the problems posed in urban warfare. Plus- how many horses did the Waffen SS have? A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Recorded at We Have Ways Fest 2023, Al Murray sits down with music journalist David Hepworth for a chat about 1940s pop music, the spirit of the nation, and the BBC. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray chats to Dr Waitman Wade Beorn about one of the most fascinating ruminations on fighting during the Second World War - Warriors by J. Glenn Gray. J. Glenn Gray entered the army as a private in May 1941, having been drafted on the same day he was informed of his doctorate in philosophy from Columbia University, years after the end of war - the philosopher reread his war diaries and began to write eloquently on warfare does to soldiers, especially our understanding of cruelty in war. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Italy proved a nightmare place to fight, no matter what side you were on: the endless mountains, the innumerable rivers, the narrowness of roads, the blazing heat, and then torrential rain and freezing cold. Jonathan Fennell, John McManus and James Holland ask, just how big was the crisis in morale for both sides and how did commanders deal with the weight of expectation, mounting casualties and truly appalling conditions? Recorded at We Have Ways Fest Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In another wide ranging discussion, Al Murray tells James Holland about his evening at the Royal Engineers Museum alongside Jools Holland and Sir Tom Jones, the tactical importance of landing craft, and how often they think about invading Wiltshire.A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland speak to the writer and director of 'The Great Escaper', a new film starring Michael Caine and Glenda Jackson about the heartwarming true story of Bernard Jordan, the 89-year-old veteran who snuck off to attend the 70th anniversary of D-day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray, James Holland and John McManus discuss the life of Joseph Stilwell - the United States Army general best known for his service in the China-Burma-India Theatre during the Second World War. What was his relationship like with Chiang Kai-shek, and what about his personality led to him being remembered as "Vinegar Joe"? A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In December 1942, Herbert 'Blondie' Hasler's men were aiming for the occupied port of Bordeaux - with just canoes, mines and grenades. Operation FRANKTON was certainly daring and it did achieve its aims but only two out of ten ever made it back. James Holland and Al Murray discuss one of the most famous - but possibly hare-brained - missions of the entire Second World War. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John 'Lucky' Luckadoo was born in 1922, in Chattanooga, Tennessee. He is the last surviving pilot of the US Eighth Air Force 100th Bomb Group - nicknamed 'The Bloody 100th'. In this brilliant interview with James Holland, he describes his experience flying for the USAAF and the devastating experience of Black Thursday. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What did the US Army and West Point learn from the Civil War, and how did this impact leadership throughout the Second World War? James Holland and John McManus discuss the similarities of leadership by two iconic American generals: Ulysses S. Grant and Dwight D. Eisenhower. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland turn back the clocks to investigate two seismic events of the Second World War that happened 80 years ago this week. They first discuss the Fifth Army’s crossing of the River Volturno in Italy, drawing on eye-witness accounts, and then the disastrous second bombing of Schweinfurt on 14 October 1943 by the US Eighth Air Force that became known as Black Thursday. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former US Paratrooper and now historian, James Fenelon joins Jim and John McManus to discuss the extraordinary and little-known exploits of the 11th Airborne Division - a unit led by the brilliant Joe Swing and who excelled during the Battle for the Philippines. The term ‘forgotten heroes’ might have been invented for this bunch! A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Did German doctors unfairly euthanise their own troops if they got shot in the stomach? Were any lessons learnt by the Nazis after Salerno? And is it pronounced "Waco" or "Waco"? All these questions, and more answered by Al Murray and James Holland. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In a bonus USA episode, James Holland recounts an incredible trip to James recounts an incredible trip to D-Day Ohio - one of the world's biggest re-enactor festivals. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al Murray and James Holland are joined by the lawyer and writer Philippe Sands to discuss revelatory documents that strongly suggest Pope Pius XII had knowledge of the mass murder of Poles and Jews at Belzec in 1942. They also speak about the battle for truth within the walls of the Vatican, and how Adolf Hitler used the courts to increase his popularity before 1933 - just as Donald Trump is doing today. A Goalhanger Production Produced by James Hodgson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

James Holland and John McManus discuss the history of the only American fighting division that can be traced back to the war of 1812 - The 7th Infantry Regiment. What was the involvement of this legendary group of men during the Second World War, especially their impact on the Italian campaign? A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In a bonus USA episode, James recounts an incredible trip to D-Day Ohio - one of the world's biggest re-enactor festivals. A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From the bestselling author of Brothers in Arms comes the story of the most pivotal Allies campaign of World War II. With the invasion of France the following year taking shape, and hot on the heels of victory in Sicily, the Allies crossed into Southern Italy in September 1943. They expected to drive the Axis forces north and be in Rome by Christmas. And although Italy surrendered, the German forces resisted fiercely and the swift hoped-for victory descended into one of the most brutal battles of the war. Even though shipping and materiel were already being safeguarded for the D-Day landings, there were still huge expectations on the progress of the invading armies, but those shortages were to slow the advance with tragic consequences. As the weather closed in, the critical months leading up to Monte Cassino would inflict a heavy price for every bloody, hard fought mile the Allied troops covered. Chronicling those dark, dramatic months in unflinching and insightful detail, The Savage Storm is unlike any campaign history yet written. James Holland has always recounted the Second World War at ground level, but this version telling brings the story vividly to life like never before. Weaving together a wealth of letters, diaries, and other incredible documents, Holland traces the battles as they were fought - across plains, over mountains, through shattered villages and cities, in intense heat and, towards the end, frigid cold and relentless rain - putting readers at the heart of the action to create an entirely fresh and revealing telling of this most pivotal phase of the war. Buy The Savage Storm Now: https://linktr.ee/thesavagestormhb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Who killed Jean Moulin, and did they get him to talk? Al Murray and James Holland discuss the final days of the resistance hero's life, and how his death has contributed to national myths about occupied France during the Second World War. The boys also discuss the mind boggling figures that surround Operation Market Garden, including some stomach churning facts about injuries in Arnhem A Goalhanger Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why are we obsessed with the Second World War? Dermot O’Leary and James May join Al and James on stage at We Have Ways Fest to look into why we’re so gripped by the subject and it’s importance. They also reminisce about the films and objects that first got them hooked and discuss how their obsession has carried on into adult life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the next installment of our Heritage Heroes series James joins former naval corpsman Rabbi Rob Thomas in Ohio to discuss his remarkably diverse collection of tanks and heavy armour - one of the most extensive in the US! They delve into the impact of the Second World War upon Rob's own family history, the importance of educating the public about military weaponry, and debunk myths about the war. Rob’s connection to the war is a personal one; his wife’s grandfather, as a native Yiddish speaker, acted as translator at some of the first liberated concentration camps in Germany, which is why Rob believes in the continuing value of education about the conflict. Hear how his collection started with a couple of machine guns and a jeep on which to mount them, before escalating to Shermans and a warehouse. See his collection for yourself at ww2armor.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In another classic USA episode, the boys are joined by American historian Kevin Hymel. Kevin has spent his career writing the quintessential biography of General Patton, in this wide ranging discussion they chat about his legacy, his achievements and his unreadable handrwriting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With just a few days to go until the biggest event of the podcast's calendar, Al Murray and James Holland speak about their excitement for We Have Ways Fest Drei. They also chat about airborne operations, their undying love for Second World War history and James unearths a 1940s training manual. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We know that the British are still obsessed with the Second World War, but what about the other side of the pond? James Holland and John McManus look at the way that the memory of war has impacted US society - from High School students to D-Day re-enactors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Al and Jim end up on the subject of the Savage Storm, James' new book about the Allied campaign in southern Italy in late 1943, but not before they've caught up with the Westland Whirlwind, the RAF's cannon fighter hot-rod. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How did the battles in the Philippines impact the struggle between the US and Japanese forces? Al Murray and James Holland are joined by our regular US expert John McManus to take a deep dive into the Philippines campaign. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Was the sole purpose behind Arthur Harris' Bomber Command to kill German citizens? Was German violence within the army due to radicalisation or desensitisation? And how did the one feed into the other? Al Murray and James Holland explore methods and morale in 1943 A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Note: This is the final episode of Between The Lines Between The Lines captures the reaction across the world through the letters, diaries and logbooks of our characters on Between The Lines. Between The Lines is a We Have Ways production Julia ‘Ma’ Blyth is read by Ruth Sillers David Blyth is read by Matthew Malthouse Oscar Griswold is read by Michael Lyons Chester Hansen is read by Lance Fuller Vere Hodgson is read by Rachel Holland Heinz Knoke is read by Lukas Wechsler Bertie Packer is read by Paul Waggott Willhelm Mauss is read by Alex Figuierdo Jack Ward is read by Adam Jarrell Harry Wilson is read by Joel Emery Narration is by James Holland and Al Murray Editing by Jon Gill and Joey McCarthy Written and produced by Merryn Walters The Executive Producer is Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It was one of the United States Army Air Forces' most ambitious bombing campaigns in 1943. Why were the Nazis so reliant on the Ploiesti oil fields in Romania and how successful was the daytime raid? James Holland and John McManus discuss Operation Tidal Wave. They explain why the Nazis were so reliant on the Ploiesti oil fields in Romania and analyse the success of the daytime raid. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In a continuation from their chat last week, Al Murray and James Holland talk about an individual Jedburgh team called OPERATION CEDRIC. Who were the people dropped behind enemy lines, what did they get up to - and most importantly, was any of it worth it? A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Between The Lines captures the reaction across the world through the letters, diaries and logbooks of our characters on Between The Lines. Between The Lines is a We Have Ways production Julia ‘Ma’ Blyth is read by Ruth Sillers David Blyth is read by Matthew Malthouse Oscar Griswold is read by Michael Lyons Chester Hansen is read by Lance Fuller Vere Hodgson is read by Rachel Holland Heinz Knoke is read by Lukas Wechsler Bertie Packer is read by Paul Waggott Willhelm Mauss is read by Alex Figuierdo Jack Ward is read by Adam Jarrell Harry Wilson is read by Joel Emery Narration is by James Holland and Al Murray Editing by Jon Gill and Joey McCarthy Written and produced by Merryn Walters The Executive Producer is Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Who were the Subhas Chandra Bose's soldiers, and what motivated them to fight alongside the Japanese, and where does their story sit in the history of the War? Jim and Al talk to Oyeshi Ganguly, Shriya Dasgupta and Sudarshan Pujari from the Agnijug Archive project who have been researching this end of Empire story. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A vital part of the post D-Day plan was to organise the French Resistance to rise up against the Nazi occupiers. But very much on Allied terms and where the Maquis could help best. Parachuted in behind the lines to train, aid and support the Resistance were a number of three-man teams, known as Jedburghs. Who were these men, where were they dropped and did they succeed? Al and James investigate. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer and Micah Richards for a new podcast bringing strong opinions on all the latest stories from the world of football. Hosted by three men who’ve been there and done it at the highest level of the game, The Rest is Football combines topical debate with outrageous tales from their careers. The essential new podcast for football fans. Listen to THE REST IS FOOTBALL, wherever you get your podcasts. Twitter: @restisfootball Instagram: @therestisfootball Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Between The Lines captures the reaction across the world through the letters, diaries and logbooks of our characters on Between The Lines. Between The Lines is a We Have Ways production Julia ‘Ma’ Blyth is read by Ruth Sillers David Blyth is read by Matthew Malthouse Oscar Griswold is read by Michael Lyons Chester Hansen is read by Lance Fuller Vere Hodgson is read by Rachel Holland Heinz Knoke is read by Lukas Wechsler Bertie Packer is read by Paul Waggott Willhelm Mauss is read by Alex Figuierdo Jack Ward is read by Adam Jarrell Harry Wilson is read by Joel Emery Narration is by James Holland and Al Murray Editing by Jon Gill and Joey McCarthy Written and produced by Merryn Walters The Executive Producer is Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the first of a series of interviews with 'Heritage Heroes', Al Murray and James Holland speak to war bird pilot and restoration expert Richard Grace. Richard tells the lads about his extraordinary life within the classic war bird world, his parents' obsession with flying Spitfires, and what the best plane to fly really is. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Vasco Andrade Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Members' Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the second episode of our special on the bombing of Hamburg, Al Murray and James Holland look behind the reasons behind the historic city as a target. They also discuss in sobering detail the horror on the ground, and if the raid was effective. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It was planned to be a war ending raid, with thousands of bombs dropped on Hamburg on the 2nd and 3rd August 1943. In the first of a two-part special on the firebombing, Al Murray and James Holland look at the history behind these indiscriminate bombing campaigns and the moral implications of Arthur Harris’ plan. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As Mussolini falls in Italy, Between The Lines captures the reaction across the world through the letters, diaries and logbooks of our characters on Between The Lines. Between The Lines is a We Have Ways production Julia ‘Ma’ Blyth is read by Ruth Sillers David Blyth is read by Matthew Malthouse Oscar Griswold is read by Michael Lyons Chester Hansen is read by Lance Fuller Vere Hodgson is read by Rachel Holland Heinz Knoke is read by Lukas Wechsler Bertie Packer is read by Paul Waggott Willhelm Mauss is read by Alex Figuierdo Jack Ward is read by Adam Jarrell Harry Wilson is read by Joel Emery Narration is by James Holland and Al Murray Editing by Jon Gill and Joey McCarthy Written and produced by Merryn Walters The Executive Producer is Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the second part of our harrowing conversation with filmmaker and historian, Martin Davidson, we discuss the real-world rhetoric and operations that make Nazi high command pursue the building of the camps and the Final Solution. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Members' Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Website: wehavewayspod.com Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After kicking up a storm in last week’s podcast by daring to suggest German Army tactics weren’t always amazing, Al Murray and James Holland shamelessly double down. Also in today's episode, they trawl through the archives to find out exactly what was happening, 80 years ago across the world. A Goalhanger Films Production Produced by Joey McCarthy Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Twitter: #WeHaveWays @WeHaveWaysPod Website: wehavewayspod.com Members’ Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome along to another of our We Have Ways series - Between the Lines. Between The Lines is a We Have Ways production Julia ‘Ma’ Blyth is read by Ruth Sillers David Blyth is read by Matthew Malthouse Oscar Griswold is read by Michael Lyons Chester Hansen is read by Lance Fuller Vere Hodgson is read by Rachel Holland Heinz Knoke is read by Lukas Wechsler Bertie Packer is read by Paul Waggott Willhelm Mauss is read by Alex Figuierdo Jack Ward is read by Adam Jarrell Harry Wilson is read by Joel Emery Narration is by James Holland and Al Murray Editing by Jon Gill and Joey McCarthy Written and produced by Merryn Walters The Executive Producer is Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices