Wise Men Say

A defeat to Liverpool - not really that surprising. What would have been surprising a few weeks back is that spirits are quite high on Wearside. What a difference it can make when your side looks like they have a plan... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We love winning now. Sunderland's Champion's League surge continued with a convincing 3-0 home victory over Hull City. We discuss the game with WMS regular Rory Fallow and ALS stalwart Paul 'Sobs' Dobson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The WMS team travelled to Manchester for a special live show during the international break. Gary Bennett and Nick Barnes joined Stephen and Gareth on stage. Just like in London earlier in the year, drink had been taken. Content probably gets progressively more alcohol affected as the night goes on, so sorry about that! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Winner winner, chicken dinner! We can bask in victory for the next fortnight and it feels canny. It's an all WMS affair tonight with Stephen, Gareth, Craig and Rory in the studio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Take us around the back of the barn and shoot us in the head. No Stephen tonight, but Gareth is joined by WMS regular, Rory Fallow. We also have George Caulkin of The Times and Chris Thompson from A Love Supreme. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Why? What's the point? Just two of the questions we'll answer on tonight's show. We're joined by WMS contributor Gary Foster and The Sunderland Echo's Richard Mennear. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Football is rubbish. We moan about it loads. Rory joins us once more as well as ALS editor, Chris Thompson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A draw, in a must win game at home to West Brom? NEVER?We should be gutted, we're in trouble. Well, we are a little bit, but it's not often we have anything positive to talk about and a late equalizer produces that for us. Ha'way let's keep going until we lose at Stoke and West Ham at least? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Rubbish, innit? We have a right good moan about that garbage on Saturday against Palace. Stephen and Gareth are joined by WMS regular Rory Fallow and The Chronicle's James Hunter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Gareth is off holidaying in Portugal so Stephen Goldsmith and Rory Fallow were joined by former fanzine editor Tom Lynn and Roker Report maestro Gavin Henderson to discuss the awfulness we're all going through at present.Am I selling this to you? These ones are normally the best to be honest. Listen in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sunderland did that thing where they were rubbish again. Another capitulation raises plenty of questions and they'll be discussed by freelancer Graeme Anderson and The Roker Report's Michael Bowers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Frustratingly, Sunderland continued their run of not winning in August since 2010. Still though, it was a canny performance by the lads at Southampton and it should have yielded three points. This week we've got WMS regulars Gary Spalding and Rory fallow joining Gareth Barker and Roker Report's Gavin Henderson making his podcast debut. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I’m sure we’ve been here before. Any hope or optimism amongst the Sunderland support seems to have evaporated within record time this year, so we have a big old whinge about the home defeat to Middlesbrough. In the studio we have ALS editor Chris Thompson and WMS regulars Rory Fallow and Craig Clark. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A defeat at City was disappointing, but the performance was canny. We discuss the game with The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter and Athletico Mince's Andy Dawson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're back with a very special live show. Recorded live at Southwark Brewery, London on July 30th, we preview Sunderland's upcoming campaign with the help of Guardian journalist and podcaster, Barry Glendenning.It was a fantastic evening and it couldn't have happened if it wasn't for the guys at the brewery, the people that bought the tickets and listeners at home. This recording is courtesy of Richard Shaw and his crew. Richard is a London based fan and got in touch with us asking if he could record it. You've got him to thank for this, as do we!In the first half we discussed...erm. Can't remember. Soz. What do they put in the booze down there?The second half gets a touch rowdy, but this was essentially a piss up in a brewery. What could possibly have gone wrong? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're staying up, they're going down, we're staying up, they're going down... Join us for the final WMS of the season. Regulars Craig Clark and Rory Fallow get amongst it. Happy times. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was a frustrating encounter at The Brittania, but we managed to get out with a point. Unfortunately we're back in the bottom three and we're going to need to see an improved performance in the coming weeks if we're to survive. It's still in our hands. In the studio this week we've got WMS regular Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Another pretty good performance saw The Lads get a point against Arsenal. The KKK excelled once more. Would it be greedy of us to be disappointed we didn't pick up all three points? We're out the relegation zone though, so that's canny. In the studio this week we've got ALS stalwart Paul 'Sobs' Dobson and WMS regulars Craig Clark and Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, well, well. The lads only went and won at Carrow Road, knowing a defeat would have almost certainly consigned them to relegation. Stephen Goldsmith is joined by the Sunderland Echo's Chris Young and Rory Fallow to talk about it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Defeat to Leicester. A frustrating game. A miss of the season contender from Rodwell. If we don't win next week then we're probably cooked. Joining us to discuss our latest disappointment is the Evening Chronicle's James Hunter and WMS regular Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There's a pattern emerging. It involves Sunderland playing well enough to win and then not winning. It's annoying, isn't it? The pressure is on now but do we believe we can still stay up? Joining us is former Sunderland Echo writer and freelance journalist Graeme Anderson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nine derbies undefeated and another good performance, unfortunately we couldn't hang on. Should we have been hanging on? A draw not the worst result in the world, but we're back in the bottom three. We'll talk about all that kind of stuff and more. This week we're joined by WMS regular Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Gutted. We might have just got over Saturday and now we all get to relive it. Great stuff. We're joined by The Sunderland Echo's Chris Young and WMS regular, Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We pick over the West Ham defeat with BBC Radio Newcastle's Nick Barnes and preview the Palace game with Five Year Plan's Jim Daly. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Winning is good. We talk about beating Manchester United and get a bit excited. Rory Fallow makes yet another appearance and we're also joined by local commentary legend and broadcaster, Roger Tames. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After a decent performance against Manchester City, we managed to get ourselves a draw at Anfield. Somehow. We'll discuss the result, Billy Jones, hear from Sam, probably talk about Billy Jones some more. Listen in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A draw against Bournemouth wasn't want we wanted, let's be honest. Yet half an hour into the game, even that looked way beyond us. There's been a lot made of Sam's comments on respecting the point has thrown up quite a debate. We'll hear him make that comment and debate ourselves on it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Goldy, Gaz Foster and Richard Mennear from the Sunderland Echo discuss the loss at Spurs - and an unforgettable debut by a lad called Jan! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Goldy, Craig Clark and the Chronicle's SAFC reporter, James Hunter talk about Sunderland's loss to Arsenal and the upcoming game against Swansea. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In what is a bit of a bonus episode, we discuss the much needed win against Aston Villa. We've had many false dawns with the lads over recent years, so beating a side somehow worse than us isn't enough to fool us. Or is it? Maybe the team should be cut some slack. Or should they?Listen, eh, and find out. Goldy is with WMS lads Craig Clark and Rory Fallow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In what is the last WMS of 2015 (ITL is still going, so don't worry) we discuss the predictable turn around by a Mourinho-less Chelsea. What makes the whole thing even less bearable (if that's possible) is the sudden form of sides around us. Bastards. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Alright, well if last week we were positive after defeat, this week gives a different feel. While the first 20 minutes were shocking - we were certainly *alright* after that. It's not enough though, is it? Or is it? Have Newcastle and Bournemouth suddenly turned into Bayern Munich or will they revert back to being rubbish so that we can continue to be rubbish and get away with it?Tom Lynne makes a WMS return and is joined by our own Gary Spalding. James Hunter off the Chronicle makes his hundred millionth appearance on the pod. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

SAFC lost and Newcastle and Bournemouth duly won - sending them second bottom. We should be down, right? It doesn't seem so. Stephen Goldsmith, Craig Clark, Rory Fallow and the Sunderland Echo's Chris Young discussed the game. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Two wins on the bounce, what a delight. We pick the bones out of a comprehensive victory over Stoke with our own Craig Clark and PLTV's Rob Scanlon. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We won a game of football. Let's not get excited all at once, but it's nice to talk about positive things from time to time. No Stephen this week, so hairy philosopher Craig Clark gets involved. We've also got WMS new boy Rory Fallow lending a voice, as well as Roker Report contributor Graeme Atkinson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Was that the worst game of football seen at the Stadium of Light in recent times? Difficult to say, there's some stiff competition...Joining us in the studio is man from the internet, among other things, Andy Dawson plus WMS regular and Fisherman's Friend, Craig Clark. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's never boring, but it's often depressing. WMS regulars Rory Fallow and Gary Foster and the Sunderland Echo's Chris Young try to pick the bones out of a bizarre game at Goodison Park. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the summer of 2014 we needed to fill for a show we were doing for a local radio station. Craig and Gareth came up with this. Alan Pardew and Steve Bruce living in a flat together, searching for a roomy. It's average. But Craig and 13 other people wanted us to put it up online. So here they are. All 6 episodes, back to back. Cringe. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The joy of six. WMS beard merchant Craig Clark joins us, as well as Michael McKnight of Frankie and the Heartstrings and ALS fanzine editor Martyn McFadden. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The pattern continues. Sam Allardyce's Sunderland fall to yet another defeat on his managerial debut, with the Mags up next. It's a canny big week ahead, but we'll look back over the West Brom game with WMS regular Craig Clark, as well as WMS new boy Gary Spalding. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dick has gone and we still haven't won a game. As we move on from our 6th manager in four years, we'll discuss where we go from here. Joining us tonight are The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter and freelancer, Gary Foster. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well that was a bit rubbish, wasn't it? There's nothing like a good inquest and this is the latest in a long line for Sunderland. Joining us tonight are The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter and WMS regular and hobo Craig Clark. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A much improved Sunderland were defeated by Spurs, but there are plenty of positives to take. Could there be a team in there somewhere? Joining us in the studio are Sunderland writer Tom Lynn and ALS Fanzine's Paul 'Sobs' Dobson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A point at Villa gives Sunderland a bit of hope after a dreadful start. We go into the international break with a new addition, some lad from Liverpool. We'll talk about all of that stuff with bearded monstrosity Craig Clark and freelance journalist Gary Foster. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Better, Clive. Sunderland showed the graft against Swansea that they should be exhibiting every week and we got a well deserved point. We're joined by BBC Radio Newcastle's Nick Barnes, and Richard Mason of The Northern Echo, to mull it all over. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Was that more depressing than last week? Sunderland are currently outdoing themselves on weekly basis, and not in a good way. We rummage through the garbage with ALS editor in chief, Martyn McFadden and our won Craig Clark. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I guess we've started as we finished. All of the hope evaporated after a dismal 25 minutes at Leicester City. We discuss the defeat with The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're back to take a look over Sunderland's pre season so far. We talk new signings and hope and expectations for the coming year. Michael Proctor joins us. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I think we're all glad that's over. Our defeat at Chelsea didn't seem to matter, but there are still big question marks over the future of the manager. Will Dick stay or go? We'll take a look back over the season, and look forwards too, with BBC Radio Newcastle commentator Nick Barnes and ALS Fanzine editor-in-chief Martyn McFadden. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After last week's brief effort, on this week's Wise Men Say we'll fight technology until something good happens. We've got a duet of local journos in the studio. The Sunderland Echo's Chris Young and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter offer up some insight after our 0-0 draw with Leicester City. Will it be enough?We also preview the trip to Arsenal on Wednesday night, where a point will be enough to see Sunderland safe. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.