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Should women “lean in”? with  Sheela Subramanian
Episode 110

Should women “lean in”? with Sheela Subramanian

We Not Me · Sheela Subramanian, Dan Hammond, Pia Lee

November 29, 202435m 27s

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Show Notes

Nearly 60% of women are worried about job losses due to AI, but only 22% are actively adopting it. This reflects a broader pattern of workplace inequality, where tech revolutions risk leaving women behind.


The solution lies in leadership, embracing vulnerability and authenticity, focusing on short-term clarity, and not pretending to have all the answers. But does it also lie in Sheryl Sandberg’s “lean in” philosophy, or does this encourage women to behave more like men in order to fit in?


This episode’s guest is Sheela Subramanian, who has had an extensive career in tech leadership, including roles at Google, Slack, and Salesforce. She's the co-author of How the Future Works, a bestselling book about flexible work and teams, focusing on how leaders can navigate change. She's a mother of two young daughters and balances multiple roles including being a wife, mother, daughter, and speaker.


Three reasons to listen

  • Learn about the gap in AI adoption between men and women
  • Understand how leaders can navigate workplace uncertainty by embracing vulnerability and acknowledging when they don't have all the answers
  • Discover perspectives on burnout in the modern workplace, particularly how it affects women trying to fit into systems that weren't built for them

Episode highlights

  • [00:07:32] How the Future Works
  • [00:12:45] Life through, and after burnou
  • [00:18:14] The Personal User Manual
  • [00:20:20] Team level agreements
  • [00:21:22] Team rituals
  • [00:22:40] Self-awareness in leadership
  • [00:24:07] Non-negotiables for leaders today
  • [00:26:04] Where to start
  • [00:28:18] Sheela's media recommendations
  • [00:29:44] Takeaways from Dan and Pia

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