Can you have a leaderless team? With Jon Barnes
We Not Me · Jon Barnes, Dan Hammond, Pia Lee
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Show Notes
Autonomy in teams requires clarity, not chaos. Successful autonomous teams need defined authority over coordination, transparent processes, and intentional facilitation to empower people whilst maintaining alignment and effectiveness.
Jon Barnes is a facilitator, coach, and co-founder of Pala, and he focuses on helping teams and organisations become more autonomous. His approach spans a spectrum from making hierarchies feel less hierarchical, to helping teams operate fundamentally without line management.
Three reasons to listen
- Create clarity in team structures by defining authority and decision-making processes upfront
- Build psychological safety and engagement through effective facilitation techniques
- Balance empowerment with appropriate holding by learning when to let go and when to provide direction
Episode highlights
- [00:12:22] the two types of waste in teams
- [00:18:10] What does leadership look like away from hierarchy?
- [00:21:44] Self-management in highly-pressurised teams
- [00:25:37] The myth of self-governance
- [00:27:12] Unhelpful self-management patterns
- [00:32:47] Jon's biggest two levers
- [00:35:32] Jon's media recommendation
- [00:36:59] Dan's media recommendation
- [00:41:12] Takeaways from Pia and Dan
Links
- Connect with Jon via LinkedIn
- Humankind, by Rutger Bregman
- Lonesome Dove, by Larry McMurtry – Jon’s media recommendation
- The Ministry of Time, by Kaliane Bradley – Dan’s media recommendation
- From the Core, by John Wineland – Pia’s media recommendation
- Track and improve your team performance with Squadify
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