Watermark's Church Leadership Podcast

Blake Holmes (Dallas Campus Pastor and Director of The Watermark Institute) joins Adam and John to talk about having candid conversations. People need to know the whole truth, and it is your job as a leader to communicate that to them. Listen in for best practices on what candor should look like in the life of a church leader. Show notes --> watermarkresources.com/clp/6698 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner joins Adam and John in the studio to discuss the importance of leading well in your 20s and 30s. These are some of the most formative years in a leader's life and getting them right will be a blessing to both yourself and others. Listen in as Todd shares how to practically make the most of your 20s and 30s. Show Notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6655-the-importance-of-your20s-and30s Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Braun Brown (Director of Single Adults & Institute Discipleship) joins John and Adam in an episode of CLP Unscripted. Instead of planning the topic in advance, everyone brings a leadership principle to share. Listen in for insights into how church leaders should think about vulnerability, organizational culture, and anger. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6602 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Adam and John discuss some of the most common mistakes communicators make. This podcast will give you practical advice on improving your communication. Also, be sure to check out Adam's Seven Days to Better Communication at www.watermarkresources.com/7days. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6560 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner joins Adam and John in the studio to talk about motivation. Together, they discuss how to stay motivated when doing the work of ministry. We pray this conversation provides practical wisdom, leadership advice, and encouragement for staying in the race. Show notes --> watermarkresources.com/clp/6509 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Braun Brown (Director of Single Adults & Institute Discipleship) joins Adam and John in the studio to talk about longevity in ministry. Together, they discuss what it looks like to stay faithfully deployed for years to come. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6460 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Nathan Wagnon (Director of Equipping & Apologetics) joins Adam and John in the studio to talk about how we grow as disciples. Together, they discuss the journey of faith and point out where people tend to get stuck. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6425 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Adam and John are joined by Caitlin Van Wagoner (Senior Director of Communications) to discuss what we are learning about communication. Together, they share practical tips for church communication in a wide variety of contexts. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6407 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

In this episode, Adam and John are joined by Kyle Kaigler (Plano Campus Pastor) and Derek Mathews (Men's Equipping Director) to discuss what leadership development looks like in the local church. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6367 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Greg Crooks, Executive Pastor, joins John and Adam in a new, special podcast. The trio doesn’t have any planned agenda for today. Instead, they each bring a leadership principle to discuss. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6249 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Blake Holmes, Director of Dallas Campus Ministries & The Watermark Institute, joins the podcast to discuss how to help others determine their next step. Show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6220 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Adam and John interview John Elmore, Director of Community & re:generation at Watermark Community Church, about how to lead in the midst of change. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Adam and John interview Blake Holmes, Director of Dallas Campus Ministries, and Todd Wagner, Senior Pastor of Watermark Community Church, about how to effectively encourage others. Show Notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6096-encouraging-others Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Following the previous conversation with Todd Wagner, Adam and John now discuss questions that church leaders should be asking when making decisions. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Adam and John interview Todd Wagner, on the topic of decision making. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Scott Kedersha, Director of Marriage Ministry at Watermark, joins Adam and John to discuss five trends he’s seeing in marriages. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

John and Adam are joined by Greg Crooks (Executive Pastor of Watermark Community Church) to talk about the role strategic planning has in the church. They talk about five best practices for effective strategic planning and then walk through Greg’s strategic planning worksheet. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

John and Adam discuss five bad leadership habits and what leaders can do to overcome them. It is through addressing bad habits that leaders can begin to move from good leadership to great leadership. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

John and Adam talk with Becca Nail, an HR Coordinator at Watermark Community Church. She focuses on hiring new staff members and the on-boarding process. Together, the three of them discuss what the hiring process looks like at Watermark and what to keep in mind when thinking about new staff. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

John and Adam talk with Jonathan “JP” Pokluda about leading with authenticity. Show notes --> http://churchleadersconference.com/blog/leading-with-a-limp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner (Watermark Senior Pastor) and two of his children, Cooper and Kirby, join Adam and John to talk about leadership in the family. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Jonathan “JP” Pokluda (Dallas Campus Pastor) and David Marvin (Young Adults Director of Programs) join Adam and John to discuss the importance of feedback. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Jonathan “JP” Pokluda (Dallas Campus Pastor) and David Marvin (Young Adults Director of Programs) talk with John and Adam about the 5 C’s of Casting Vision. As leaders of the largest young adult gathering in the country, JP and David show leaders how to practically and authentically share a heroic vision to change the world, even with a small group of people.INTRODUCTION - WHY CASTING VISION IS IMPORTANT (00:38)“Leaders live in the future.” — John McGeeJP shared that people don’t follow a leader. They follow a vision. Leadership is people moving a common direction behind a person. One of the best ways to communicate this is to start with the words, “Imagine if…” Leaders must paint a vision of a future that their followers want.HEROIC VISION STARTS WITH THE WHY (1:31)“If God is not a part of it, it will fail.” - David Marvin“People don’t want to just show up; they want to change the world.” - John McGeeThe Porch, Watermark’s young adult ministry, emphasizes heroic vision for their people. This means calling them to something bigger than the ordinary that moves them to action.JP gave an example of picking up trash. If leaders live in the practical, they’ll just ask people to pick up five pieces of trash in the parking lot. But the heroic vision starts with the why. It would start in the beginning, explaining that God gave us this earth to steward it. More specifically, he gave us this property to take care of, but someone has littered it. Can you imagine what it would look like for us to move through this place and redeem it, make it what it should be? We’re going to restore Eden in this parking lot. This is a different, more inspiring call to action.The heroic vision for the Porch is, “Surrendered to God, we are changing the world through young adults.” Another vision that originated out of a message from the Porch is a bold prayer, asking God to save every single young adult in Dallas and Fort Worth. People responded to it because of how big of an ask it was.MISTAKES LEADERS MAKE (5:50)One of the biggest mistakes leaders make is by starting with the “what” or the “how.” Although that’s necessary, JP recommended not starting there. Instead, start with the “Imagine if” statements. “Imagine if our parking lot is an example to the rest of the world?”David also shared that this should trickle down even to every day tasks asked of volunteers. As an example, when David was early on in his ministry at the Porch, JP suggested that instead of simply asking a volunteer to change a graphic on Facebook, he should remind her of the “why.” The email could have read something like this, “Facebook is one of the most strategic opportunities that we have. With a click of a button, thousands of people can be impacted. As you steward this page, will you help us think through increasing ways that we could be more effective in our Facebook page? Here’s the new graphic for the upcoming series, but if you don’t think changing it is the most effective, then don’t do it.” This gives her ownership and reminds her of the vision. Although it takes time, it’s worth it.5 C’S OF CASTING VISION (8:30)Cast It Convincingly (8:43)Cast It Constantly (9:48)Celebrate It (12:51)Communicate It Personally (14:22)Call Them Heroically (20:04)Cast It Convincingly (8:43)Identify the problem that you are trying to address and help your followers connect the dots to what is at stake should the problem not be solved. An example of this is passing out flyers or bulletins at the front door. The Porch does not tell their volunteers that they are simply passing out flyers. They’re handing out hope that comes in a little piece of paper. They’re on mission by engaging with the people who walk into the doors. It’s important for volunteers to attach what’s at stake if they don’t play their role.CAST IT CONSTANTLY (9:48)People easily forget, so vision should be communicated at all times. Your goal should be that people make fun of you because you repeat it so often or they cut you off mid-sentence because they’ve heard it a thousand times.John McGee also encouraged leaders to remember that the vision is the most clear to them. Leaders have spent more time with it than their people, so remember to repeat it often.CELEBRATE IT (12:51)“What’s rewarded is repeated.” - David MarvinVision is emphasized when it’s celebrated. An example of this is when Porch volunteers initiate conversations with people who are sitting alone. When leadership sees a volunteer doing this, they take the time to write a note or celebrate it during a volunteer meeting. It’s through their small actions that the overall vision of the ministry is lived out.COMMUNICATE IT PERSONALLY (14:22)A mistake leaders sometimes make is trying to speak outside of their voice. If a leader isn’t funny or challenging, but tries to be either of those things, they will come off as inauthentic and ineffective. People want authenticity and transparency. They want a vision that is put in front of them poured through t

Greg Crooks (Executive Pastor of Watermark Community Church) joins Adam and John to discuss six principles to help church leaders be more productive. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Every church leader desires to see their members living a life on mission, both inside and outside the church. In this episode, Jeff Ward (Director of External Focus) joins John & Adam to discuss some of the ways he and his team work hard to mobilize the church. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Leadership is rarely more difficult than when facing a crisis. In this episode, John McGee reflects on a recent crisis that impacted his family and what he learned about leadership in the midst of navigating some very difficult circumstances. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Community Groups are a big deal here at Watermark and a ministry we take very seriously. In this episode, John Elmore (Director of Community and Director of re:generation) jumps into the podcast studio to share what we've been learning about how to lead a healthy Community Group ministry. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

If your church staff or volunteer team is made up of more than one person, then you've experienced conflict. In this episode, Todd Wagner discusses practical ways to deal with conflict and how to best embrace the opportunity conflict provides. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Is self-leadership even possible? Adam & John jump into the podcast studio to discuss this popular leadership topic and try to clear up some common misconceptions. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner once again jumps into the podcast studio with John & Adam. The topic of discussion this time is the idea of "celebrity pastors" and why many pastors fall, regardless of whether or not they are a "celebrity pastor." Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Kyle Kaigler, the campus pastor in Plano, joins Adam and John to discuss seven principles of building teams. This podcast will challenge you to build teams, give ministry away and be intentional about developing others.Why is this topic so important (4:00)1) It makes disciples. 2) Builds ownership for people.3) You get more work done.4) You have more fun.Seven Principles of Team Building1) Be courageous (5:10)One of the things Watermark is known for is the courage of our senior leaders. When you build teams with lay leaders, it build courage. We sometimes fire volunteers and that takes courage, but it sets the bar for what we expect.2) Bring energy (6:24) Regardless of whether or not you are in introvert or extrovert, you need to be excited about what you are leading. That comes from your walk with Christ. As you recruit teams, look for those who are excited.3) Have fun (8:32) "Life’s too short to not do ministry with people you love." – Kyle Kaigler 'Be creative with your team to have fun.4) Know yourself (9:56) Pay attention to your own heart. To build teams you need to know your strengths and weaknesses and build teams around those. Have your identity in Christ, know your gifts and give things away. Get to the point where you have more fun watching lay leaders lead.5) Play chess, not checkers (11:33) Know your people. In checkers all pieces do the same thing. In chess every piece does something different. People are different and you need to know them and deploy them well. Pray for it, wait for it. Wait for God to bring along the right people.6) You set the bar (13:35) As you are building lay leaders, you have to tell them your expectations. You need to delegate responsibility and authority. When Jesus sent out the 70, he delegated authority and responsibility. This gives people ownership. What people own usually grows.7) Provide candid feedback (14:35) You need a culture of handling conflict well. We want to build a culture where people freely, yet lovingly, share candid feedback. People will only get better if they get quality feedback. Expect what you inspect.8) Why don’t more church leaders do this? We feel like we need to be the man or the woman, because we are insecure. Study Exodus 18:17-26 – this passage is so full of team building principles. Questions or comments? Email [email protected]. Application Questions1) Do you struggle to give ministry away? If so, why do you think that is? 2) Which of the seven principles do you feel like you are doing well? Where could you grow? 3) What volunteer or staff member needs you to give them feedback? 4) What are some practical ways you can help your team have more fun? Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Benson Hines, Director of External Mobilization, joins Adam and John to discuss recruiting volunteers. This podcast will challenge you to not simply fill needs within or outside the church. Instead, view opportunities to serve as a path towards discipleship. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Blake Holmes shares five common mistakes young leaders make. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Jonathan Pokluda discusses how to lead through seasons of discouragement. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

BONUS EPISODE: John & Adam provide some quick tips for those of you joining us at the 2018 Church Leaders Conference (April 24-26, 2018 here in Dallas). Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Part 2 of 2 - Three of Watermark's elders join John & Adam to discuss the installment process for new elders and other questions they're asked on a regular basis. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Part 1 of 2 - Three of Watermark's elders join John & Adam to discuss our church's elder model, how they view their role, and how they function week-to-week. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Tyler Briggs, the Watermark Fort Worth campus pastor, discusses how to faithfully play whatever role God has for you. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Scott Kedersha jumps in with John McGee & Adam Tarnow to discuss trust and why it is so important to the health of your church staff. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

John McGee & Adam Tarnow discuss how to build, protect and change your staff culture. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Jeff Ward (Watermark's Director of External Focus), John, and Adam sit down to discuss how you can improve your meetings. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Kyle Kaigler and Rob Barry discuss practical ways to lead yourself spiritually. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

John Cox and Todd Wagner discuss three principles designed to help you and your church navigate staff transitions. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

In this episode, David Marvin and Jonathan "J.P." Pokluda discuss five ways you can proactively engage with your boss. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner and Jonathan ("JP") Pokluda wrap up their discussion of practical ideas to help you in leading your staff or your team. This is the final part in a series of podcasts on this topic. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner and Jonathan ("JP") Pokluda discuss practical ideas to help you in leading your staff or your team. This is part three in a series of podcasts on this topic. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner and Jonathan ("JP") Pokluda discuss practical ideas to help you in leading your staff or your team. This is part two in a series of podcasts on this topic. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Todd Wagner and Jonathan ("JP") Pokluda discuss practical ideas to help you in leading your staff or your team. This is part one in a series of podcasts on this topic. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

Jonathan ("JP") Pokluda shares ten best practices to keep in mind when ministering to millennials. JP is the Watermark Dallas campus pastor and also leads The Porch (Watermark's Young Adult Ministry). Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.

In this first episode of Watermark's Church Leadership Podcast, Sr. Pastor Todd Wagner discusses the important role friends play in a leader's life. Leadership is only as lonely as a leader wants it to be. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.