
Watermark's Church Leadership Podcast
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Ep 100Adaptive Leadership with Tod Bolsinger
On this special, 100th episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined in the studio by Tod Bolsinger (professor at Fuller Theological Seminary, author of several excellent books, and experienced church leader). Together, they discuss the importance of adaptive leadership and how it can help organizations lead effectively through change. For show notes, resources, Tod's books, and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8843-adaptive-leadership Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 99Things You Would Miss If You Didn’t Lead
On this mini-episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee shares an important reminder for everyone in leadership. We pray that you will be encouraged to continue faithfully serving wherever you are at. For show notes and more, visit: https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8827-privilege-of-leadership Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 98The Power of Empathy
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee sits down with Mandy Bagdanov (Director of re|engage) to discuss empathy. Listen in for reasons why empathy is crucial for leading well. For show notes and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8768-empathy Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 97How to Spot, Squash, and Prevent Silos
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John and Adam discuss silos: what they are, how to spot them, and what to do about them! If your teams seem to struggle to work together, then this episode is for you! For show notes and a downloadable PDF, please visit: https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8734-how-to-spot-squash-and-prevent-silos Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 96Finding Freedom from Anxiety
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined in the studio by David Marvin, Young Adults Director at Watermark and leader at The Porch. Together they discuss anxiety and what leaders need to know to step into conversations on the topic. For show notes and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8715-freedom-from-anxiety Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 95Training the Next Generation of Leaders
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined in the studio by Blake Holmes and John Cox to discuss the Watermark Institute and explain why training the next generation is so vital. Are you or someone you know feeling called to vocational ministry? The Watermark Institute may be your next step. Find out more at https://www.watermarkresources.com/ministries/institute Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 94Should You Take A Sabbatical?
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John sit down in the studio to discuss John's experience taking a sabbatical this summer and why intentional time off is crucial for church leadership. For snow notes and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8598-sabbaticals Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 93Obscurity is not an Obstacle
On this mini-episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee shares his reflections on why obscurity in ministry should not discourage us. For more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8549-obscurity-is-not-an-obstacle Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 92Team Leadership
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John and Adam take a break from talking about individual leadership to discuss the importance of teams working together to accomplish something. For show notes and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8479-leading-teams Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 91Rethinking the Multi-site Model
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined in the studio by Watermark Campus Pastor John Cox. Together, they discuss the multi-site church model, Watermark's history with it, and what they have learned along the way. For show notes and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8471-multisite Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 90Feedback: What To Do When It Goes Wrong?
This episode of the Church Leadership Podcast is part two on the topic of giving and receiving feedback. John McGee and Caitlin Van Wagoner discuss what to do when giving feedback goes poorly. Download the Principles For Feedback PDF Resource at https://watermarkresources.lpages.co/cpl-principles-for-feedback-resource Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 89Feedback: How to Give It, How to Receive It, and Why It Matters
This special episode of the Church Leadership Podcast is part one of two on the topic of giving and receiving feedback. Enjoy this recording of Caitlin Van Wagoner and John McGee’s mainstage panel from CLC 2021 and additional discussion on why feedback is so important. For show notes and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8443-feedback-part1. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 88The Importance of Optimism
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John discuss the importance and practicality of optimism in the life of the leader. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 87What Older Leaders Want You To Know
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John are in the studio to discuss the 8 things they wish they knew when they were younger and what they younger leaders to keep in mind. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 86What Young Leaders Want You To Know
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined in the studio by three young leaders: Emma Dotter, JD Rodgers, and Gabrielle Odom. Together, they discuss what younger leaders want older leaders in the church to know. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 85Letting People Go
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined in the studio by Luke Friesen (Director of Operations) and Todd Wagner to discuss the difficult topic of firing. Together they discuss how to go about firing graciously, and why doing it well is important for leadership. For show notes and more visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8233-how-we-think-about-firing Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 84A Leader's Online Presence
How should a leader engage with social media? What is a practical way to think about your online presence? On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John is joined in the studio by Jonathan Pokluda (Lead Pastor of Harris Creek Baptist Church in Waco, TX) and Todd Wagner (Campus Pastor at Watermark). Together they discuss best practices for leading well online. For show notes and more, visit www.watermarkresouces.com/clp/8202-leaders-and-social-media Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 83A Leader and Their Marriage (feat. Pam McGee)
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam interviews John and Pam McGee about their leadership, marriage, and ministry. Listen in for practical advice about what it takes to be faithful both at home and in the church. For show notes and more, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8114-a-leaders-marriage Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 82Gospel-Informed Leadership (ft. Paul David Tripp)
On this special episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John is joined for the first time by an outside guest: Dr. Paul David Tripp. Together, they discuss Paul's new book Lead: 12 Gospel Principles for Leadership in the Church and what it means to truly have a gospel community. We assure you that listening will leave you both encouraged and convicted. Show notes and more at https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8042-interview-with-paul-tripp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 81A Leader's Prayer Life
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John is joined in the studio by returning guests Nathan Wagnon and Blake Holmes to discuss prayer. Together, they talk about some misconceptions leaders have about prayer and provide some practical steps for improving your prayer life. For show notes and more, visit www.watermarkresources.com/clp/8027-a-leaders-prayer-life Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 80Five Temptations Leaders Are Facing
With a global pandemic bringing new challenges, many leaders are facing a whole new set of temptations. In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam Tarnow and John McGee discuss 5 new temptations characteristic of those in leadership and what leaders can do to remind themselves of truth. For show notes and more, visit www.watermarkresources.org/clp/8004-new-temptations. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 793 Approaches to Goal Setting
At the start of a new year, we are all reconsidering what it looks like to set goals. In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John and Adam are joined by John Cox (Director of Staff Development and Special Projects) and Caitlin Van Wagoner (Senior Director of Communications) to discuss 3 different approaches to practical and effective goal setting. For show notes and more, visit www.watermarkresources.com/clp/7984-3-approaches-to-goal-setting Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 78Saying Thanks
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee extends a special thank you and reminds you that even when others forget to say thanks, God does not. Even if people do not know who to thank, God does. For other episodes and more, visit www.watermarkresources.org/clp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 77Reinventing Yourself
One of the most important aspects of leadership is the ability to change and grow. On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, David Penuel joins Adam and John to discuss his process of reinventing himself. By taking an intentional look at his own flaws, committing to learn, and prioritizing the success of others, David had been able to achieve transformation in his life and ministry. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 76How We Think About Women in Leadership
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Caitlin Van Wagoner (Senior Director of Communications) joins Adam and John in the studio to discuss women in church leadership and why the church should be an incredible place for women to utilize their gifts. For show notes and more visit www.watermarkresources.com/clp. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 75Visionaries and Integrators
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John are joined in the studio by Eric Hassfurther to discuss the importance of pairing visionaries with integrators on your team. Listen in for an explanation of these two crucial roles. Show notes and more available at www.watermarkresources.com/clp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 74The Weight of a Leader's Words
As a leader, your words have more weight than you think. On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John and Adam discuss the impact of a leaders words and best practices for communicating wisely. For show notes and downloadable resources visit: www.watermarkresources.com/clp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 73Great Questions Leaders Ask
In moments of indecision or uncertainty, it is often a question that gets people unstuck. On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John and Adam discuss great questions that every leader should be asking and why doing so is an incredible value to your and your team. For show notes and downloadable resources visit www.watermarkresources.com/clp. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 72How to Care for People in Crisis
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Blake Holmes joins Adam Tarnow and John McGee to talk about how to care for people in crisis. Note, that while this episode was actually recorded pre-COVID-19, we believe it is more applicable than ever. For show notes please visit www.watermarkresources.com/clp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 71Getting Out of a Slump
Have you ever been in a slump? In this episode, Adam and John sit down to talk about what leaders can do to get out of a season of discouragement, apathy, or ineffectiveness. For show notes and other podcast resources, check out www.watermarkresources.com/clp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 70Leading Through Uncertainty
On this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John discuss how to lead during seasons of uncertainty. For show notes and other resources visit www.watermarkresources.com/clp Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 69Managing Stress During COVID-19
The Church Leadership Podcast is BACK! John and Adam return to the studio to discuss managing stress during COVID-19. In this unprecedented season, it is more important than ever for leaders to understand how stress is affecting them and combat it with truth. For show notes --> www.watermarkresources.com/clp/7484-managing-stress Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 68Community Groups in COVID-19
Wondering how to best facilitate small groups and keep people connected to community amid COVID-19? David Dzina (Senior Director of Community and Connecting) joins Adam and John to discuss all things community. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 67Q&A with Todd Wagner
On this episode of CLP Live, Adam, John, and Todd answer live questions about church leadership, finances, and devoting daily. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 66Leading Yourself Well
In times of crisis, leaders cannot forget to lead themselves well. On today's CLP Live, Adam and John discuss practical ways for remaining emotionally, spiritually, physically, and relationally healthy. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 65Responding to COVID-19
Wondering how to best lead the church amid COVID-19? Adam and John sit down to discuss! This episode was recorded LIVE on the new Church Leadership Podcast Liveshow, a part of Watermark TV. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 64When a Leader Fails
Todd Wagner joins Adam and John to discuss how the church should respond to the moral failure of staff or key leaders. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 63How We Think About Church Budgeting
Brett Billman (Director of Finance at Watermark Community Church) joins Adam and John in the studio to talk about church budgets and financial stewardship. And this isn't just a topic for accountants. Brett shares practical information relevant to every church leader! For show notes and a downloadable Application Guide, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/7261-church-budgets Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 62Communicating with Clarity
Adam and John discuss one of the most important skills a leader can develop: communicating with clarity. Clarity inspires change and motivates a team to take action. To download this episode's Application Guide and find more about the Church Leadership Podcast visit: https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/7233-communicating-with-clarity Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 61Contrarian Leadership
There is no playbook for leadership. Leaders face a continuously changing environment that sometimes requires decisions that might seem unusual. In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John listen back on an interview with Todd Wagner at CLC 2018. He shares stories of when unconventional thinking helped him solve complex leadership problems. For more information and other resources, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/7155-contrarian-leadership Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 60Responding to Criticism
Simply put, if you do not learn how to handle criticism, you will not remain a leader for long. Todd Wagner, Adam, and John discuss what it looks like to respond to criticism well. For access to the show notes and a special downloadable PDF worksheet, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/7121-responding-to-criticism. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 59The Leadership X-Factor
Why is it that some organizations completely transform after a change in leadership? What is it that truly makes leaders stand out and instill confidence and trust? In today's episode, Adam and John discuss the leadership "X-Factor" and put practical terminology to this somewhat intangible concept. Ultimately, while God looks at heart, people inevitably look at outward appearance. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 58Our Favorite Things in 2019
As 2019 comes to a close, Adam and John talk about their favorite books, tweets, documentaries, and stories of the past year. Listen in for some excellent recommendations and helpful leadership principles. This is much more than just a list of favorites. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 57Leading Teenagers
David Penuel and Rebe Long (Watermark's Student Ministries) join John and Adam in the studio today to talk about leading teenagers. They provide 3 practical principles for being successful with youth ministry. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 56A Leader's First 90 Days
Beginning a new role is often an overwhelming process. But it doesn't have to be. Blake Holmes (Dallas Campus Pastor & Director of The Watermark Institute) joins Adam and John once again to talk about a leader's first 90 days. Whether you are starting a new job, were just promoted to a new role, or have been faithfully serving in the same place for decades, listen in to these 5 practical principles. Find the show notes and more at www.watermarkresources.com/clp. Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 55Leadership Best Practices We Are Currently Trying
In this episode, Blake Holmes (Dallas Campus Pastor & Director of The Watermark Institute) joins Adam and John to talk about leadership best practices. Each of them comes to the table with something new they are currently implementing. What about you? What are you currently trying? For show notes and more information, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6963-leadership-best-practices-we-are-currently-trying Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 54The Key to Focusing on the Right Things
On today's Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John discuss how to stay focused on the right things. Understanding the difference between "goals" and "desires" is a crucial skill for every leader. Listen in as Adam provides us with a simple and practical framework that starts with folding a piece of paper in half. For show notes and more from the Church Leadership Podcast, visit: www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6886 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 53How to Be All In
John and Adam are in the studio today talking about engagement. Listen in for practical advice on communicating you are "all in" on the mission of your organization. Downloadable PDF --> https://watermarkresources.lpages.co/how-to-be-all-in Show notes --> https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/6854-how-to-be-all-in Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 52Church Discipline
Todd Wagner joins Adam and John in the studio to discuss church discipline. Care and correction is absolutely core to shepherding God's people. Church leaders must be willing to step into these situations with courage and compassion. Listen in for practical insights on what church discipline should look like. Also be sure to check out the recommended resources in the show notes: watermarkresources.com/clp/6753 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.
Ep 51Five More Bad Habits of Leaders
In this episode, Adam and John return to the topic of leadership habits. Listen in for practical ways to improve your leadership and refine your bad habits. Find the show notes at watermarkresources.com/clp/6726 Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.