Washed Up Emo

Ladd from Park comes on to talk about his work as an author, musician, and association to the word emo. We also speak about his experience with the Washed Up Emo Copycaster by Baldwin Guitars that he has been playing recently. Ladd has been on my list for a long time, happy to have it finally happen! Thanks for the support of this podcast and historical endeavor. https://www.patreon.com/cw/washedupemo https://www.baldwinguitars.com/product-page/washed-up-emo-copycaster Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Excited to announce a signature Washed Up Emo guitar called the Copycaster! I speak to Nate Baldwin from Baldwin Guitars on how this partnership came about, the tech behind the guitar, and the emo and non emo inspirations behind it. We also talk about how he grew up in the Goleta scene and his mom getting hit on by Tom Selleck. Baldwin Guitars: https://www.baldwinguitars.com/ Guitar Ideas YouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCllM0wf-4U&list=PL2DTNmcnpwBOUTdMc30uO-c4pvxaq9wuz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Keith Latinen from Count Your Lucky Stars, Empire! Empire! (I Was a Lonely Estate), Mt. Oriander, and Parting is finally on the show. We had a chance to reconnect at Best Friends Forever 2026 and reconnect again for the pod to talk about his bands, his career, and life up to this point in the world of emo. Keith has never shied away from the word and always was championing bands that slipped through the cracks for many as this genre continues to gain popularity. Learn more about Keith and his label and artists: https://countyourluckystars.limitedrun.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris and I spoke recently after seeing each other in Las Vegas for Best Friends Forever Festival. We chat about the festival, Elliott, and his new band Mirrorless. Support: https://www.patreon.com/c/washedupemo Photo of Chris Higdon by Melissa Mullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Connor Gilroy dressed up as the crow from Death Cab for Cutie's "Transatlanticism" album and posted it on Twitter. Hours later he went viral. I found it the next day thanks to my wife and posted it on Instagram. We connected after someone tagged him on the post and couldn't wait to hear the story behind this amazing costume and his own music. Listen to Connor: https://gilroy.bandcamp.com/album/singles-beach Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jake Snider is part five of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alex Rose is part four of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Knudson is part three of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cory Murchy is part two of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Bayles is part one of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome back David Bazan! Last time we spoke was in 2019 on episode 149. Today we speak about the Headphones 20th Anniversary that’s out now on Suicide Squeeze, his upcoming tour with Grandaddy and lots of talk about Best Friends Forever festival. Lastly we touch on how his last interview changed my life for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Galm from Snowing fame has a solo record called "River of Blood" that's out now on Count Your Lucky Stars! We talk about everything under the sun and hope you enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome John Congleton. John and I speak about emo, his old band, The Paper Chase, and the bands he's worked with. It's extensive and impressive! A truly remarkable and open talk about emo with someone who's worked with the best! https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan and Sam speak about the upcoming untitled Promise Ring documentary and how they need your help! https://www.thepromiseringdoc.com/ https://www.instagram.com/thepromisering_documentary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we have back for a 3rd time, Chris Simpson. He recently released a new Mountain Time album called “Dream Homes” on Spartan Records. We talk about the album and really go deep on the making of and the artwork. We also talk about death, planning, and doing things out of love. Lastly you can tell we’ve spoken a lot as it’s just a lot of jokes and sorta feels like we just recorded one of many conversations together over the years. I could not be more proud to speak with Chris and know he’s still making music. It’s a gift. https://spartanrecords.com/collections/mountain-time/products/mountain-time-dream-homes https://mountaintime.bandcamp.com/album/dream-homes Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Best Friends Forever 2025 was just announced, and I have instant feedback on who's playing and the changes for 2025. Listen to all the bands via this playlist on Soundcloud Support the show via Patreon patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Bishop and Bryan Hoffa from the band Bells on Trike. Fun fact: they were around for only a few years in the late '90s, and this is their first-ever interview! Numero Group has their music up on streaming services. Go search it out. https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Amanda MacKaye. Amanda and I chat about the new Bed Maker record that’s out on Dischord, a big discussion about genre, emo, and her take on it from the world she came from in DC. We talk about the industry as a whole and what’s exciting for Amanda in 2024. This was a really great conversation and I kept a lot of the back and forth in more than usual to keep that feeling for you the listener. https://linktr.ee/bedmakerdc https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Kristin Thomson and Jenny Toomey from Tsunami and Simple Machines. We talk about the 90s, running Simple Machines, their new box set out on Numero Group, what DIY means to them, and how it impacts their lives and current work. I learned a lot from this episode. It was so fun to sit back and be reminded how much more I need to know and listen. Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We talk about the Seattle scene he grew up in, Acceptance, Anberlin’s new stuff, and we go deep into his years on the road and how he’s balanced his career and family. Plus, your favorite topic, emo. Please listen to the latest Anberlin record, Vega, out on Equal Vision Records. Support: patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Will Sartain from S&S Presents and Best Friends Forever Festival. Will and I talk about Kilby Court, the longest-running all-ages venue in SLC, and his DIY past. We dive into first thoughts and planning for the festival. It's a really fun look behind the curtain on one of the most unique festivals hitting a specific time frame and Venn diagram we all know and love. If you’re on the way, you’re on your way back. If you've never heard of it, take a second and check it out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome sunny day real estate. Jeremy Enigk, William Goldsmith, and Dan Hoerner recently took time to chat with me ahead of this run around the anniversary of Diary. I didn’t edit it. I just talk to them as you would if you got to sit with them for an hour. I hope you feel you’re next to them, chiming in or nodding along. i can’t explain listening back to this the joy I feel hearing them all happy. This is a celebration. A band so cherished and revered is better than they were when you say you saw them first. Go see them now. I can’t explain how much getting 250 episodes feels, either. I can try, but through many ups and downs, as I’m sure you have going on now, in the past, or up ahead, it felt right to have this happen now. I struggle a lot with keeping up, and I struggle with thinking no one cares. This past year, I spent a lot of time looking for support in those ups and downs. Hearing SDRE laugh, talk over each other, remind each other of things, and support each other as they go down this road of not nostalgia but celebration and continuation of a band that goes beyond a word, a phase, or even a scene. From the bottom of my heart, thank you to Jeremy, William, and Dan for coming on and sharing a little about themselves. I hope you enjoy listening along with all the mistakes, my usual questions about emo. I think 250 in, I am not changing the format, there are plenty more stories to hear from our heroes, here’s to 250 more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tony and Jamie from Prawn come on the podcast to talk about getting back together, doomsday prepping, Erewhon, and we inform Tony about a Key and Peele sketch on texting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I last spoke to Orenda for episode 181 with her bandmate Maria Taylor for the band Azure Ray. Today, we’re discussing her new book, “The Witch’s Daughter.” I finished this book in about four days and couldn’t put it down. It’s an amazing book about trauma. There will be something that resonates with you, a family member, or a friend at some point while reading this book. If you aren't convinced, you will want to read this book after listening to the conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Vagrant Records was on fire in the 2000s. That fire was fueled by their music videos, which, at the time, was how you got to the kids. Maureen Barry was a true pioneer in making amazing videos in this scene, and with some timing, millions saw them. This is how she started; the stories are attached to some of your favorite band's music videos and careers. Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Newsletter: https://washedupemo.substack.com/ Podcast network: https://www.doubleelvis.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome John Anderson from Boys Life and Suburban Eyes. We talk about the recent unreleased songs from Boys Life streaming via Numero Group and his new group, Suburban Eyes, with Eric Richter from Christie Front Drive and Jeremy Gomez from Mineral. Suburban Eyes' record is out in August via Spartan Records. I hope you enjoy the episode! Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Boys Life / Suburban Eyes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David NeSmith has been part of some groundbreaking bands in emo. He's not afraid to say it throughout the episode, either! From Maximillian Colby's screamo days to the dissonance of Sleepytime Trio and his work with Bats & Mice. They all scream not just emo but a need to create and share new sounds still to this day. Dave made a playlist you can check out on WashedUpEmo.com or below on the discography of his career. Dive in. The new Bats & Mice record is called Ps: Seriously. Dave's playlist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome John O'Callaghan from The Maine. The Maine have had a long history in the scene and are about to jump on the Sad Summer Tour. John and I spoke about emo extensively and how the band and the music have stayed alive after all these years. I love how little it took to edit. I had a blast talking to John about all things music and emo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Vish Khanna from the Kreative Kontrol podcast. Vish has had almost 900 guests from across the creative spectrum. A truly amazing interviewer, and it was an honor to have him on the show. Thanks to Holmes from American Football for connecting us! http://vishkhanna.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome David Mitchell from the Montreal-based band Gulfer. I have loved them since I first heard them in the 2010s. I’ve had a soft spot for their sound and continued work ethic to make music through things that happen in life. Their most recent album, out as of late February, is called Third Wind, and boy, do we get on the chats about waves of emo and the in-between waves as well. Thanks to Topshelf Records, the excellent label that helped put this interview together. Go check out Gulfer. It's a gem worth taking repeated spins in the car with the windows rolled down. https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Gulfer's Definitive Guide to 4.5 Wave Emo (2015-2018) https://www.topshelfrecords.com/roster/gulfer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Dallas Green from City and Colour and Alexisonfire. I’ve had the pleasure of working with him over the years and he helped shape who I am. We got to catch up about emo, what Elliott means to him, Canadian bands you should check out, who has been lost, and what he’s looking forward to. Thank you for listening and thanks to all at Dine Alone team for helping make this happen. Photo credit: Vanessa Heins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally from Baltimore, Christine Osazuwa got her start in music at 15. She holds degrees in music, marketing and data science and combined those passions into roles in data & marketing at Universal Music Sweden and Warner Music Group in London. Currently, Christine is the Chief Strategy Officer for ticketing & event marketing startup Shoobs where she leads their marketing & brand partnerships strategy. In addition, she sits on the board of The LIVE Association, Indie Venue Week, and Keychange US. Christine is also the Founder of Measure of Music–part conference, part hackathon– which introduces music & data to others while highlighting majority minority attendees and speakers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Tim Semple, drummer from Boilermaker. Boilermaker was a band from the San Diego area and was on a few labels, including our friends Better Looking Records, who had a CD compilation called Leucadia that has been taking on a life of its own over the years. As the constant feeding frenzy for what’s not streaming, Boilermaker had a few things not up as they say, and Numero Group stepped in to help get them in the ears of those searching. One person in Boilermaker hasn’t been able to see this rebirth. Terrin Durfey, who played bass and sang in Boilermaker, passed away from cancer in 2008. Tim speaks about hearing Terrin live and the weird crew of people they connected with within their short time together as a band. A must listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Trabue. He’s an accomplished tour and production manager for many bands, including Jimmy Eat World and Garbage. His story of how he got there slides into hardcore and emo with his roots in Kansas City, deciding to try something and started learning the road from the other side. You may have seen him with Hopesfall or alongside other bands in that world. This episode is an excellent lesson for working hard and being calm in a place with constant chaos. Look out for some new Casket Lottery with Jason on the drums or see him on the largest tours in the world, holding it down for many years to come. It was an honor to have him talk about his life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Garrett Rothman started Art Monk Construction with a friend back in the 90s to release some amazing records. I was obsessed with some of their releases including Seven Storey Mountain and Kerosene 454. Garrett was also in some amazing bands like Junction and Don't Sleep. His most recent project Calling Hours has a new album out now on Revelation Records. Garrett has some amazing stories about his time in bands, running the label, and his connection to DC. Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Nicholas Pye from the mid-90s band Shotmaker. Recently, Solid Brass compiled all of their music into some beautiful vinyl and digital releases for your ears. They are a fantastic band that was only around for a short period of time, but their sound and influence still resonate today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome back Matt Pryor. Matt is on to talk about his recently announced memoir he wrote called Red Letter Days. It’s up for pre-order right now, or if you’re in the future, head over to Washed Up Books to get one! Matt and I discuss how he started writing, how he feels about it now, how his adversity and stories helped him deal with many things, and how he’s better for it. Quick note: We mentioned a guy named Frank early on. We were talking about Frank Turner, the musician who helped Matt start the process of writing. This has been a fantastic partnership where Matt trusted me as I dove deeper into book publishing, and he did the same by bearing his soul in this book. I hope you enjoy the book, or if you’re coming back after reading and listening to this, I hope it adds to the pages you’ve read. Either way, thanks for supporting Washed Up Emo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With the launch of Matt's first memoir, "Red Letter Days," I listened to the first time Matt and I spoke for the podcast. It was great that I thought it was worth having those who may have missed. Plus, this was a big launching point for the show as I was starting to get bigger and bigger guests. Crazy to think that was 10 years ago this month. Please pre-order Matt's book "Red Letter Days" at WashedUpBooks.com Newsletter sign up Notes from episode 20 I wrote in 2013... "It was an absolute honor to have Mr. Matt Pryor from The Get Up Kids be a part of the podcast. I just noticed after listening back to this episode that the only person left to interview from my opening musical montage is Jeremy Enigk. What a trip it's been. Matt was great to chat with and even had to scold his kids who you can hear at times during the interview. We dove into the first time Matt sang live in front of someone, Kansas City, Boy's Life, ripping off "Static Prevails" and why bands do 10 year anniversaries. Matt also mentioned his opinion on the word "emo" and throughout the podcast you can hear his voice ring with truth that also transcends to the bands he was in and his way of life. And you have to hear what song The Get Up Kids never have to practice that you love. Finally, download his recently launched podcast "Nothing To Write Home About" which is a great listen and unique insight into the scene." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, on the podcast, there is a massive announcement. This morning, I launched a book publishing company called Washed Up Books. After two volumes of Anthology of Emo, I really felt there was more to do in this space and because of your support, it’s time to make this a real thing. Today, I’m proud to announce Red Letter Days, the debut novel from Matt Pryor from the Get Up Kids, New Amsterdams, and Terrible Twos. Today, it’s available for preorder via WashedUpBooks.com or via our friends at PolyvinylRecords.com. And yes, it is available worldwide. Wherever you are in the world, you can get this! I thought it would be fun to recap the releases of Anthology of Emo and how we got to doing Red Letter Days with the designer Jesse Reed. Jesse’s day job is Order, a design firm, Standards Manual book series, and in a fantastic band called Sharkswimmer, where he’s the drummer. It’ll make sense as you hear the episode. Jesse was invaluable to making these a reality, and we go into the story of how we started doing books and dive into books and music. This is overwhelming to have happened. It’s amazing to think someone like Matt Pryor, whom I idolized, has put pen to paper and written a fantastic series of stories that I have been waiting to tell you for so long. Truly, thank you for the support on this podcast and the books. Shout out to everyone who helped make the Anthologies happen, Polyvinyl Records, Ian King, and many others… This is just the start of Washed Up Books. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Eric Richter and Glenn Maryansky from the band Antarctica. Eric was in Christie Front Drive and has been on the podcast before. Eric had this other band with an amazing group of musicians in the late 90s in NYC that went more toward the NYC electronic scene and more Underworld, New Order, The Cure, Ride, etc. At the time, it was largely forgotten. Solid Brass Records is getting this stuff online for everyone to enjoy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Denver Dalley from bands such as Desaparecidos, Statistics, and Weak Nights. If you haven’t dove into any of these bands, they’re a fantastic assortment of unforgettable riffs and sounds. Be on the lookout for more from Weak Nights. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Elise Okusami from Oceanator. She is signed to Polyvinyl Records and currently on a run of dates with Braid and going to rock with Into It Over It as well. Elise is an amazing musician and recently released Nothing’s Ever Fine back in 2022 and has a new single called "Part Time." You can find everything out about Oceanator at Oceanator.surf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Bull Gervasi from Policy of 3, Four Hundred Years, and R.A.M.B.O.! Bull has an amazing story to tell about his music and personal life. An absolute legend in the scene from Policy of 3 to Four Hundred Years, he pursued punk and DIY in a way that should be modeled and taught in schools. Even if you don't know the bands, you will after this interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Colin McCann from Don Martin Three, Vulture Feather and Wilderness. Don Martin Three were from St Augustine Florida from the years 1993 to 1996. If you’re a fan of Moss Icon, Indian Summer and Policy Of 3. Screaming, quiet loud parts, and amazing guitar work, this is a band to listen to. We talk about that time and the bands from the 90s when the word didn’t mean much. We then get into Vulture Feather, a new album called Liminal Fields is out now and one of the best albums of the year. So search it out. We talk about the meaning behind the band and struggles Colin had before making music again. This was a beautiful conversation with someone I never expected to reach out and happy they did. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's an honor to have J. Robbins on the podcast. As someone that I've enjoyed his music performances in bands like Jawbox and Burning Airlines, to being a part of some of the most influential albums in my life as a producer/engineer, it was hard to not geek out the entire time. He couldn't have been nicer to talk through his life, influences, and his impression on emo and music making today. Be sure and check out his website JRobbins.net to learn more about the projects he's been a part of and his own music that he's continuing to make. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome back Michael Malarkey. I had him on episode 197 and we’re back again to chat about his new music with the group Burial Clouds. Michael, especially on Instagram, is always first to comment on an an obscure screamo band from the 90s. We caught up about some of his fav bands from the 90s ear, what he has to do before every show or play he performs. We talk festivals for a bit and how he handed Jake Bannon from Converge his demo when he was 20 years old. Plus get stoked on Botch and how getting called for movie or tv gigs messes up his show plans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome again Jeff Caudill from Gameface and his new band called Low Coast. They have an album out right now called Existing the Dream out on Spartan Records. Think Death Cab for Cutie meets Wilco. What was great is that Jeff and I did this in person and was so nice after so many interviews have been done remote. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Ben Green from Fairweather and Ivakota Recording Studios. Ben and I speak about his time growing up, being exposed to music, forming Fairweather, struggles in the mid 00s, and was really candid about not just the successes but the mistakes the band made. Fairweather has new music that you should check out and enjoy the many stories about Equal Vision Records and someone named Dan, who is the GM over there and a dear friend of Ben and I. Also we get into Ben’s 2nd life at his studio as a producer/engineer running Ivakota Recording Studio. A really fun way to end speaking about how he learned things from his band and helping today’s bands try not make the same ones. Lastly, we nerd out a bit on metal throughout the episode including a story at the end you won’t want to miss. And to celebrate the metal chat, we both made metal playlists on Spotify and those will be linked on Washed Up Emo dot com or below depending on your podcast player. Learn more about Ben at BenGreenSound.com or Ivakota.com Metal Playlists!!! Tom - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/14Fe716gzA4oxGEqJhzLVo?si=1bb7531726a34735 Ben - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EnEhYn1sW4U4YCbK9N2Hm?si=c8fd59a899ab4c64 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Popeye Vogelsang from Farside, Your Favorite Trainwreck, and a new band he’s in called Calling Hours. Popeye is most well known for being a guitarist and vocalist of the band Farside, founded in Orange County, California in 1989 and released their records on Revelation Records. Farside played with a ton of hardcore, punk, and emo bands throughout their life. We talk about his musical family, hardcore, his interesting life after full time music by being a well known as a voice actor and much more. Popeye is a legend in the scene and someone I’ve wanted to have on for a long time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices