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Why Every Company Will Have a Stablecoin — and Why One L2 Isn’t Enough - Ep. 912
Episode 912

Why Every Company Will Have a Stablecoin — and Why One L2 Isn’t Enough - Ep. 912

A Stripe-owned startup takes on the stablecoin duopoly. Then, Manta co-founder explains why he thinks apps (not infra) will win.

Unchained

October 1, 20251h 32m

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Show Notes

This week on Unchained, we’ve got a double-header.

First, Zach Abrams, CEO of Bridge (acquired by Stripe), unveils Open Issuance, a platform designed to let any company launch its own stablecoin. He explains why the stablecoin duopoly is ending, why fragmentation won’t slow adoption, and how stablecoins could pair with AI to reshape global money movement.

Then, Kenny Li, co-founder of Manta Network, joins to reveal why Manta is pivoting away from being just another L2. He argues that the scaling wars are oversaturated, that mercenary users make infra battles a fight for crumbs, and that the real prize is at the application layer.

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Guests:

  • Zach Abrams, Co-Founder and CEO of Bridge

  • Kenny Li, Co-Founder and Core Contributor of Manta Network

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