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Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest crypto news. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why the Azuki new NFT collection 'Elementals' caused such a controversy among holders why Robert bought an Elemental and what was he expecting who the Michael Milken of NFTs is, according to Tarun how BitGo 'pulled a Binance' on Prime Trust how Prime Trust, a crypto custodian, collapsed and was put into receivership whether what Prime Trust did can be considered fraud and how the situation highlights DeFi's 'long term advantage' why the majority of blockspace is EVM-compatible what the problems are with current Layer 2 rollups such as Optimism and Arbitrum why rollups are so 'political' in the Ethereum ecosystem what makes Arbitrum better than Optimism, according to Tarun what shared sequencers are and whether they will be the future in crypto Why Haseeb is not so bullish on the app-chain thesis Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links Unchained: Polygon Cofounder Proposes Upgrading PoS Chain to zkEVM Validium The Block: Azuki NFT collections ends Elemental mint with $37.5 million Fidelity preparing to submit spot bitcoin ETF filing: Source CoinDesk: Azuki NFT Prices Slide 44% After Creator Releases 'Basically Identical' Elementals Nevada Files to Place Crypto Custodian Prime Trust Into Receivership Azuki’s thread on its situation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aaron Kaplan, co-CEO of Prometheum, the trading platform that recently acquired a special-purpose broker dealer license for digital asset securities, has become a major lightning rod in the crypto community. Does the firm represent, as Kaplan has argued, a compliant path forward for crypto in the United States? Or, as Paradigm Special Counsel Rodrigo Seira maintains, does it only demonstrate that the SEC’s crypto regime is simply unworkable? The two join the show to debate the specifics – and it certainly gets heated. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: whether it is even possible to compliantly register a crypto exchange in the U.S. following SEC Chair Gary Gensler’s recent public statements which tokens Prometheum can list, if any why Rodrigo and Aaron disagree over what constitutes a security whether the Howey Test applies in secondary market transactions for tokens sold pursuant to a SAFT why Aaron says that Paradigm should reassess its entire thesis and that the status quo benefits venture capital firms like Paradigm why Rodrigo says Prometheum has a license, but not a business who would be responsible for providing required disclosures for a decentralized network like Ethereum how many tokens Aaron expects to list on the Prometheum platform whether Aaron and Prometheum had specific discussions with the SEC about what tokens are securities Aaron’s response to allegations that the Chinese Communist Party is infiltrating the U.S. financial system through Prometheum whether Aaron had previewed the questions he was asked by representatives in his Congressional hearing what they believe should be included in disclosures about tokens if federal securities laws didn’t exist and guidelines for disclosures were written from scratch what Aaron has to say about the Blockchain Association’s recent FOIA request whether Prometheum is open to being acquired by other entity Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com TOKEN2049 OKX Guest: Aaron Kaplan, co-CEO and co-founder of Prometheum. Previous appearance on Unchained: These 2 Crypto Trading Platforms Agree With SEC Chair Gary Gensler Aaron’s written testimony Rodrigo Seira, special counsel at Paradigm. Rodrigo’s thread on Prometheum Links Unchained: Crypto Community Unearths Questionable History of SEC-Aligned Prometheum Former SEC Cyber Chief Calls the Agency’s Way of Labeling Tokens Securities ‘Not Fair’ Investopedia: Schwab and Fidelity-Backed Crypto Exchange EDX Goes Live, Adds More Backers CoinDesk: Gary Gensler’s Catch-22 Vision of ‘Regulated’ Crypto Brokers Key Takeaways From House Hearing on Future of Digital Assets The Crypto Basic: Prometheum Founder Says SEC Will Win Ripple Lawsuit, XRP Community Reacts Digital Asset Investor’s video on SEC setting up a Chinese back door into crypto Thread from Blockchain Association’s Marisa Coppel Adam Cochran points out a slew of details that call Prometheum into question. Matt Walsh questions how Kaplan can be called a securities expert since the law school he earned his degree from is now unaccredited by the American Bar Association. A clip from Aaron’s exchange with U.S. Rep Mike Flood Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest crypto news. With BTC topping $30,000, the gang tackles the apparent surge in institutional bitcoin interest, with BlackRock’s spot ETF application spawning a bumper crop of similar bids. Why did all these TradFi players act at the same time? That, plus a look at the drama surrounding SEC-friendly Prometheum’s Congressional testimony and what Haseeb and Robert see as the trading platform’s many “red flags.” Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: the not-so logical reasons why the markets are up whether GBTC’s ETF conversion will also get approved if BlackRock’s bitcoin ETF gets the SEC go-ahead how all the applications were ready and were “waiting for some sign,” according to Robert whether Grayscale will have to sell the underlying assets of its GBTC trust why a bitcoin spot ETF is more retail-friendly than a bitcoin futures one how plausible it is that London becomes a leading crypto hub the drama around Prometheum’s testimony before Congress the “shady” details of Prometheum’s track record, according to Haseeb why Tarun says that the venture-funded exchanges have “completely failed on many different levels” and what tokens he would list what happened with Curve founder Michael Egorov’s loan on Aave and why Gauntlet, Tarun’s company, advocated freezing the CRV market in the lending protocol why the Aave community rejected the proposal Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links Unchained: 3AC Founders Launch Venture Capital Firm Binance.US Briefly Displays Bitcoin Price at $138,000 Invesco and WisdomTree Follow BlackRock, Reapply for Bitcoin ETFs ​​BlackRock Files for Bitcoin Spot ETF - Coinbase WSJ: Crypto Exchange Backed by Citadel Securities, Fidelity, Schwab Starts Operations Cointelegraph: Blockchain Assoc. requests info on Prometheum over ‘suspicious’ approval Aave proposal to freeze alleged Curve founder’s loans draws controversy CoinDesk: Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) Chooses U.K. as Destination for First Office Outside U.S. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The SEC has swatted down so many spot bitcoin ETF applications that crypto diehards simply gave up caring. Then comes TradFi giant BlackRock – at the height of the SEC’s crypto crackdown, no less – with an ETF application that has seemingly changed the calculus. Bloomberg Intelligence ETF watcher James Seyffart joins the show to unpack the odds of BlackRock being the first to win approval, and what it would mean for other players in the space chasing down TradFi’s “holy grail.” Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why the SEC rejected all of the previous bitcoin spot ETF applications what makes the application from BlackRock, the world’s largest asset manager, different what a 19b-4 filing is and how it relates to the BlackRock application whether BlackRock “knows something,” considering the recent enforcement actions against major crypto exchanges why being a first mover is a considerable advantage in the ETF market whether BlackRock choosing Coinbase as a custodian is a risk, given that the SEC is in a legal battle with Coinbase what’s different about a spot bitcoin ETF, and why a bitcoin futures ETF is not enough what are the differences between the applications filed by BlackRock, Invesco, WisdomTree and Valkyrie which are the applications that are most likely to be approved, according to James what the impact will be of Grayscale’s lawsuit against the SEC over the denial of its proposal to convert GBTC to an ETF why James says that Gary Gensler could be thinking like a politician as it relates to spot bitcoin ETFs Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Copilot Money ProtonMail Guest James Seyffart, Research analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the topic: Grayscale v. SEC: Who Won This Week’s Hearing? Why Grayscale Is Suing the SEC Over Its Denial of a Bitcoin ETF $5 Billion in AUM: Why Growth at Grayscale Exploded in the Last Quarter Bitwise’s Latest Plans to Get a Bitcoin ETF Approved DCG’s Dilemma: Should It Sell Its GBTC Holdings to Repay Gemini? The Block: BlackRock ETF launch would put pressure on Grayscale's valuation: Bloomberg analyst CoinDesk: A Straightforward Explanation for Why Financial Giants Want to Issue a Spot Bitcoin ETF Unchained: Invesco and WisdomTree Follow BlackRock, Reapply for Bitcoin ETFs ​​BlackRock Files for Bitcoin Spot ETF Valkyrie Applies for Bitcoin Spot ETF ‘BRRR’ Reuters: Cboe files with U.S. SEC for third time to list ARK 21Shares Bitcoin ETF US court questions SEC's rejection of Grayscale's bitcoin fund proposal Barron’s: ETF: Invesco, WisdomTree Join Push. Why It Might Happen. Blockworks: BlackRock, then Bitwise — How the spot bitcoin ETF filings differ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The announcement of the upcoming launch of Uniswap v4 sparked fresh versions of old debates. Is it OK for DeFi’s leading DEX to not be fully open source at launch? What counts as composability and what counts as plagiarism? Is Uniswap’s dominance a threat to decentralization? Founder Hayden Adams joins the show to respond to the critics and explain the novel features of Uniswap v4. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Uniswap was born and how it has evolved since 2018 how the SushiSwap vampire attack was a win for Uniswap whether the new version of Uniswap brings it closer to the true ethos of Ethereum what the problems were with the previous fee model and how the new v4 approaches fee tiers an explanation of “hooks,” the most important feature of the new code what Hayden thinks the most common uses of hooks will be how v4’s time-weighted average market maker (TWAMM) feature works whether Hayden is worried that hooks will be engineered to do rug pulls what Hayden thinks about v4’s new “singleton” approach how EIP-1153 (if implemented) will make Uniswap v4 more efficient when Hayden estimates that the v4 code will be deployed why Uniswap decided to go with a four-year business license Hayden’s response to allegations that Uniswap plagiarized Crocswap for its v4 code whether there’s a risk that U.S. authorities blacklist certain transactions on v4 whether it is possible to add KYC and AML compliance into v4 pools why Hayden is sad about the U.S. approach to regulating crypto why he believes that Uniswap will not become a centralizing force Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com TOKEN2049 OKX Guest: Hayden Adams, founder of Uniswap Links Unchained: Uniswap Releases Draft Code for V4 Uniswap V3 Forks Are Now Legal After BSL Expiry Liquidity Pools: How DEXes Allow Trading Uniswap: Our Vision for Uniswap v4 EIP-1153: Transient storage opcodes v4-core/LICENSE at main · Uniswap/v4-core · GitHub Frax Finance’s Sam Kazemian tweet TWAMM - Paradigm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce has a reputation in the industry for being more supportive of crypto than her peers. After a rough year for the industry, Peirce weighs in on whether the agency was right in recently naming several crypto tokens as securities, the state of the current regulatory framework, and the slow pace of change. “All I can say is that I’ve been at the agency for over five years, and it’s very frustrating to me that in that time we haven’t done something more productive,” Peirce tells Unchained. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what would Peirce do to regulate crypto if she were chair of the SEC whether the SEC was right in alleging that SOL, ADA, MATIC, and more are securities why Peirce says the SEC’s current approach will take many years to find a resolution whether special purpose broker-dealer licenses are a solution why Peirce believes that the existing regulatory framework is not enough to oversee digital assets her views on the pressing need to find a way to make existing regulations comport with a technology that doesn’t require intermediaries whether the fact that many SEC employees worked on the Hinman speech reflects the opinion of the agency as a whole why Peirce is “very frustrated” after five years of working at the SEC why she’s been seen as the “Crypto Mom” and why she thinks it’s so important to provide a clear regulatory framework Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Copilot Money Proton Guest Hester M. Peirce, SEC Commissioner Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the topic: The Chopping Block: Jake Chervinsky on How the SEC Has Lost Credibility These 2 Crypto Trading Platforms Agree With SEC Chair Gary Gensler ‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer Gary Gensler vs. Crypto: What Will the SEC Attack Next? Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Unchained: SEC Sues Coinbase for Breaking Securities Laws SEC Files 13 Charges Against Binance Including the Mishandling of Funds, Sale of Unregistered Securities SEC Calls Solana, Polygon, Algorand and Other Tokens Securities but Misses Ether in Binance Lawsuit US House Republicans Propose Bill That May Give Crypto Assets a Path to Becoming Commodities Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition The Block: Ripple calls for investigation into former SEC official after document release Former SEC director Hinman's plan to call Vitalik Buterin revealed in suit SEC comments on Hinman speech released in Ripple Labs filing WSJ: Who Is Brian Armstrong? Coinbase CEO Is Taking On the SEC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner, chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, Robert stirs the debate over Hinman's 2018 speech and what it means for the debate at the SEC over whether BTC and ETH should be considered securities, the similarities between Ethereum and Solana, and how Binance.US is dealing with a move to freeze its assets. Moreover, the group kicks off with a brief history lesson on the infamous PEPE meme! Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: where the PEPE meme comes from whether Mark Zuckerberg and the project Libra played a role in the animosity toward crypto why Robert says that Hinman's speech in 2018 was crafted with broad inter-agency work, in contrast to what the SEC has been saying how the documents show that the SEC didn't believe there was enough clarity to classify ETH as a security whether these documents diminish Gary Gensler's claims that almost everything in crypto is a security the similarities between Ethereum in 2017 and Solana at the moment what the drama is in Solana around forking Alameda coins what the new features of the Uniswap V4 draft code are whether the 'hooks' in the new code facilitate rug pulls and introduce much more complexities how Binance.US has dealt with the SEC lawsuit and request to freeze its assets Robert's crazy idea to use Uniswap V4 and why Tarun killed it what extreme sports represent crypto more accurately Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links Unchained: SEC Anticipates Responding to Coinbase Petition in 120 Days Binance.US and SEC Work On Deal to Avoid Total Asset Freeze: Report Binance.US Says SEC’s Request to Freeze Assets Would End Crypto Exchange Binance, Coinbase and Binance.US Record $4 Billion in Weekly Outflows Uniswap Releases Draft Code for V4 The Block: Ripple calls for investigation into former SEC official after document release Former SEC director Hinman's plan to call Vitalik Buterin revealed in Ripple lawsuit SEC comments on Hinman speech released in Ripple Labs filing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On June 1, Hong Kong implemented new crypto regulations to license exchanges. Two experts – Angelina Kwan, CEO of Stratford Finance (and former COO of BitMEX), and Adrian Lai, founder and managing partner of Newman Capital – weigh in on the new rules in Hong Kong, which tokens can be listed, recent reports that China may be sanctioning this activity, and how the crypto community is responding so far. Plus, they dissect the latest developments of the digital yuan, whether China will ever embrace public blockchains, and the shifting global regulatory landscape for crypto, and more. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Angelina’s and Adrian’s backgrounds in crypto in Hong Kong how crypto in Hong Kong has evolved over the years what the new Hong Kong Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) rules consist of, including which tokens will be allowed in the newly licensed exchanges how the Hong Kong Monetary Authority (HKMA) has taken onboarding crypto companies in the banking system very seriously why Angelina says that crypto companies have already stopped leaving Hong Kong how some people are worried how a potential crackdown on crypto in China could affect Hong Kong why the SFC has committed to issuing a paper on tokenization and why it is particularly interested in real estate the importance of the development of the digital yuan whether the new regulations in Hong Kong mean that China is prepared to adopt crypto in the mainland how China is 'excelling' at adopting real-world use cases, according to Angelina why you can't say “NFTs” in China and why the metaverse represents a “huge problem,” according to Adrian whether China will let public blockchains succeed how the global regulatory landscape has been changing and what it means for the future of digital assets whether Africa is the next frontier of growth and what role the Middle East is playing Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com TOKEN2049 Guests: Angelina Kwan, CEO of Stratford Finance Adrian Lai, founder and managing partner of Newman Capital Links CoinDesk: Hong Kong Securities Regulator to Accept License Applications for Crypto Exchanges Starting June 1 How Hong Kong Is Gearing Up to Regulate Stablecoins Cointelegraph: Hong Kong’s regulatory lead sets it up to be major crypto hub China doles out millions in digital yuan in bid to boost adoption: Report Chinese city public servants to receive digital yuan salaries starting May TechCrunch: Hong Kong’s crypto rules help it fit in more than stand out, but experts say that’s good A peek into China’s stance on web3 CNBC: One country, two crypto systems: Hong Kong harbors crypto hub ambitions despite China’s crackdown Bloomberg: Hong Kong’s Crypto Hub Ambitions Win Quiet Backing From Beijing Hong Kong Securities and Futures Commission: SFC concludes consultation on regulation of virtual asset trading platforms South China Morning Post: Hong Kong’s crypto market will not have ‘light-touch regulation’, HKMA chief says as city prepares new rules Forkast: China: Zhengzhou City proposes metaverse plan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Monday, it was Binance. On Tuesday, Coinbase. Electric Capital General Counsel Emily Meyers joins the show to read between the lines of an action-packed week for Gary Gensler’s SEC. Meyers lends her lawyerly eye to the key differences between the two lawsuits, the SEC’s potential strategy, and whether federal legislation will beat the courts in providing clarity. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Emily thinks the SEC’s actions don’t represent the end of crypto in the U.S. what the similarities and differences are in the lawsuits against Coinbase and Binance why it’s fundamental to the SEC’s allegations that the court determines that at least one of the named tokens is in fact a security whether Coinbase and Binance will file motions to dismiss whether allegations against Binance are comparable to those against FTX whether Gary Gensler’s interactions with Binance in 2019 raise ethical questions about his involvement in the case why Emily thinks that Gensler’s approach to crypto is not aligned with the SEC’s mission to protect investors why the SEC allowed Coinbase to go public and is now suing them how the SEC sued Coinbase only after the exchange sued the agency first whether the Third Circuit will press the SEC to issue the rules that Coinbase has petitioned for why Emily believes that there’s not an effective path for crypto companies to properly register in the U.S. why the SEC has listed large-market-cap tokens such as SOL, ADA, and MATIC but has not gone after ETH Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Copilot Money Proton Guest Emily Meyers, general counsel at Electric Capital Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the topic: The Chopping Block: Jake Chervinsky on How the SEC Has Lost Credibility These 2 Crypto Trading Platforms Agree With SEC Chair Gary Gensler Coinbase's Legal Action Against the SEC: How It Will Likely Unfold ‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer Gary Gensler vs. Crypto: What Will the SEC Attack Next? Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ LINKS Unchained: SEC Sues Coinbase for Breaking Securities Laws SEC Files Motion to Freeze Binance’s Assets, Asks for ‘Sworn Accounting’ SEC Files 13 Charges Against Binance Including the Mishandling of Funds, Sale of Unregistered Securities SEC Calls Solana, Polygon, Algorand and Other Tokens Securities but Misses Ether in Binance Lawsuit US House Republicans Propose Bill That May Give Crypto Assets a Path to Becoming Commodities Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition CoinDesk: SEC Seeks Temporary Restraining Order to Freeze Binance.US Assets Crypto Exchange Binance Says Gensler Once Offered to Be an 'Informal Advisor' Binance Redirected $12B to Firms Controlled by CEO Changpeng Zhao, SEC Says Fortune: Former Coinbase employee and his brother settle with the SEC, which again dodges proving whether cryptocurrencies are securities Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner, chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, the Blockchain Association’s Jake Chervinsky breaks down the cases against Binance and Coinbase – and how they are different from FTX – what it means for the crypto industry, and who may be next. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Why Jake believes that the Binance lawsuit didn’t present major surprises Whether the SEC is trying to ban the crypto industry by enforcement How Binance has been allegedly doing a huge amount of wash trading Whether Gemini is next on the SEC’s enforcement action list How CZ and Coinbase CEOs have responded to the complaints How the market reacted to the lawsuits What the differences are between the Binance case and FTX Why the SEC is alleging that Coinbase is operating as an unregistered broker, exchange, and clearing agency Whether token issuers can bring action against the SEC for harming their business or reputation Whether the crypto industry doesn’t take the SEC seriously Whether the EOS settlement in 2019 shows how inconsistent the SEC has been in its crypto enforcement actions Whether these cases will have an impact in Congress and accelerate legislation What would happen if Gary Gensler stops being the chair of the SEC Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest Jake Chervinsky, chief policy officer at the Blockchain Association Previous Unchained Appearances: Can Crypto Be a Force in the Midterms? Yes, Say Kristin Smith and Jake Chervinsky Everything You Need to Know About the Looming Battle Over Privacy in Crypto All Things Crypto Regulation With Jake Chervinsky Disclosures Links Unchained: SEC Sues Coinbase for Breaking Securities Laws SEC Files Motion to Freeze Binance’s Assets, Asks for ‘Sworn Accounting’ SEC Files 13 Charges Against Binance Including the Mishandling of Funds, Sale of Unregistered Securities SEC Calls Solana, Polygon, Algorand and Other Tokens Securities but Misses Ether in Binance Lawsuit US House Republicans Propose Bill That May Give Crypto Assets a Path to Becoming Commodities Fortune: Former Coinbase employee and his brother settle with the SEC, which again dodges proving whether cryptocurrencies are securities Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wallet security was in the spotlight after the announcement of Ledger Recover, but the crypto community doesn’t need to “freak out,” according to Itai Turbahn, co-founder and CEO of Dynamic Labs, and Ouriel Ohayon, CEO of ZenGo. The two CEOs join the show to talk about the challenges of bringing self-custody to the masses. For many, “not your keys, not your coins” is actually “your keys, your problem.” Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: the problems that may arise when managing your own keys the misconceptions that people have about hardware wallets why Ouriel says that Ledger is going in the right direction but made a major mistake how multi-party computation can be a solution to the problem of securing your own keys what are other ways to solve it, such as Shamir’s secret sharing (SSS) and multisigs the tradeoffs between security and user experience how Dynamic Wallet works by linking multiple wallets to a single account whether “passwordless authentication” is the future of security how can users protect themselves from “bad transactions” and what are companies doing to help whether open source contributes to more security in the wallet landscape how account abstraction will change the user experience whether security is the key to the future of crypto Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guests: Itai Turbahn, cofounder and CEO of Dynamic Labs Ouriel Ohayon, CEO of ZenGo Previous appearance on Unchained: ZenGo: A Self-Custodial Wallet Minus the Risk of Losing Your Keys Previous coverage of Unchained on wallets: The Ugly Tradeoffs of Ledger’s New Recovery Service Links What is ZenGo Recovery Kit? Cointelegraph: Multiparty computation could offer increased protection for crypto wallets I run a Ledger competitor — But I support it in blow-up over keys Unchained: ‘Backdoor’ for Seed Phrases? Ledger’s New Recovery Feature Spooks Users Tweet from Ouriel that explains the differences between ZenGo and Ledger Solving the crypto adoption problem: making crypto *actually* usable Multi-Party Computation (MPC) Technology Can Ensure Effective Fraud Detection | Nasdaq Web3 Auth 101: What is wallet-based authentication? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner, chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, the gang answers audience questions, digs into the discourse around rollups, and debates whether modular blockchains will vanquish existing monoliths. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: How someone asked people to just give them money, and raised over $1 million Answering audience questions from Twitter, including ‘what’s Tarun’s favorite drug?’ Whether there’s tension between Haseeb and Tarun How the incoming generations of crypto people (e.g. “Class of 2017”) have changed over the cycles The five-level explainer on what a rollup is Why everyone’s debating the ontology of rollups and why Haseeb still thinks blockchains are like religions Tarun’s take on the modular blockchain thesis and why Haseeb is skeptical Whether app chains like the ones in Cosmos will become dominant Whether one of the top 4 chains will be modular in the next five to 10 years Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links Binance Feed: Bored Ape NFT Holder Ben.eth Launches Third Crusade of Memecoin Psychopathy Rollups, Rigor, and Reality by Kelvin Fichter Rollups Are L1s (& L2s) a.k.a. How Rollups *Actually Actually Actually* Work by Jon Charbonneau Haseeb’s question on Twitter Previous episode of The Chopping Block on the L1 debate: Why Are We Still Building Layer 1s? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If a year in crypto is like a decade in other industries, then Laura Shin has seen a lot. To commemorate the 500th episode of “Unchained” (actually, there’s about 150 more under a different brand name), Laura hops on the other side of the microphone to field questions from Unchained Contributing Editor Zack Seward about standout moments dating back to 2018. From the early rise of Binance to a charged interview with Terra founder Do Kwon, Shin takes you behind the scenes for rare insights into her process, her favorite moments, and how key episodes have aged. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Highlighted episodes: Sept. 25, 2018: How Binance Became the Most Popular Crypto Exchange in 5 Months March 26, 2019: Vitalik Buterin on Whether or Not Ethereum Is ‘Blowing It’ April 8, 2022: Here’s Why USDN De-Pegged From the Dollar – And Why UST Might Too Dec. 23, 2022: Martin Shkreli Explains Why Sam Bankman-Fried Got Lucky With His Judge Aug. 3, 2021: Can a DeFi Smart Contract Be Regulated? Two CFTC Commissioners Discuss May 23, 2023: Ex-CFTC Commissioner Berkovitz Says ‘DeFi Should Be Regulated’ – But How? March 18, 2022: Punk6529 on the Significance of Bored Ape Yacht Club and CryptoPunks Oct. 18, 2022: Do Kwon of Terra: ‘It Was Never Really About Money or Fame or Success’ July 31, 2018: Meltem Demirors and Jill Carlson on the Shitcoin Waterfall Aug. 10, 2021: Is ETH on Its Way to Becoming Ultra-Sound Money? Yes, Says Justin Drake Dec. 28, 2021: Why NFT OG Mitchell Chan Has Released Just One Project This Year Oct. 28, 2022: The Mango Markets Attacker on Whether His ‘Trade’ Was Ethical or Not Feb. 7, 2018: Xapo’s Wences Casares on How Bitcoin Makes a Fairer World Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Copilot Money Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Lack of regulatory clarity” is the catchall complaint levied against U.S. regulators by most major players in the crypto industry. But the founders of Bosonic and Prometheum disagree. Both firms have spent years chasing the necessary regulatory approvals to compliantly trade digital assets, including those seen as securities. Last week, Prometheum secured a potentially landmark approval to operate as a special purpose broker-dealer for digital asset securities. Prometheum co-founder Aaron Kaplan and Rosario Ingargiola, founder of Bosonic, which earlier secured a similar approval, discuss why big players like Coinbase need to quit carping in the court of public opinion and do the hard work of getting approved. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what Bosonic and Prometheum Capital do how Aaron and Rosario started working in crypto what it means to be a special purpose broker-dealer what the three-step letter from the SEC is and why it's relevant for scaling a digital asset business how exchanges work in traditional finance and how crypto differs why Aaron believes there’s a “pathway forward for crypto in the U.S.” whether the argument that there’s a lack of regulatory clarity is convenient for crypto incumbents why Aaron agrees with SEC Chair Gary Gensler on his stance that everything except BTC is a security how a token registration would work and what the nuances would be why Coinbase’s approval to be a publicly traded company does not mean that the SEC is in line with the business whether ETH is a security, with Aaron arguing it is and Rosario saying it’s a commodity what the different requirements are for national securities exchanges and alternative trading systems what Aaron and Rosario would tell existing crypto companies as it relates to compliance whether regulation kills innovation Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guests: Aaron Kaplan, co-CEO and co-founder of Prometheum Rosario Ingargiola, Founder and CEO of Bosonic Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto regulation: Ex-CFTC Commissioner Berkovitz Says ‘DeFi Should Be Regulated’ – But How? ‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer Coinbase's Legal Action Against the SEC: How It Will Likely Unfold Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Links CoinDesk: SEC Proposal Could Bar Investment Advisers From Keeping Assets at Crypto Firms U.S. SEC Moves Toward DeFi Oversight as It Reopens Proposed Regulations Prepared Remarks of Gary Gensler On Crypto Markets Penn Law Capital Markets Association Annual Conference SEC Issues Investigative Report Concluding DAO Tokens, a Digital Asset, Were Securities Unchained: SEC Chair Gary Gensler Avoids Question: ‘Is Ethereum a Security?’ Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition SEC Asks Court to Deny Coinbase Demand for Crypto Rules Financial Institutions Hub: SEC Proposal Targets Crypto Exchanges, Trading Platforms, and Brokers Emmer and Soto Introduce Bipartisan Bill to Provide Regulatory Clarity for Digital Assets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s in the name: mint.fun. Co-founder Luke Miles joins the show to talk about his platform’s efforts to make NFTs more discoverable, accessible and fun. He also shares his on-the-ground perspectives on emerging trends in the NFT space – everything from Bitcoin Ordinals to the rise of Ethereum L2s as NFT hot spots. With last cycle’s NFT mania in the rearview, what’s next? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what mint.fun is and what problems it solves for NFT users how it is different from popular NFT marketplaces such as OpenSea and Blur why mint.fun is also launching on Ethereum layer 2s Luke’s thoughts on the current state of the NFT market why the narrative has shifted from PFP projects delivering a roadmap to the ‘single creator narrative’ the difference between open-edition mints and limited editions why NFTs on layer 2s are “about to have a moment,” according to Luke whether mint.fun will launch on other blockchains what Luke thinks of Ordinals and the BRC-20 mania Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Stader Labs Guest Luke Miles, CEO of mint.fun Links Dune dashboard Fundrop Recent coverage on BRC-20s: Bitcoin’s BRC-20 Mania: Is It Sustainable? Unchained: What Is NFT Farming? A Beginner's Guide Music NFTs: What Are They & How Do They Work? A Guide to Yuga Labs: The Most Important NFT Company Exploring the NFT blue chips What Is an NFT Marketplace? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner, chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, EigenLayer founder Sreeram Kannan explains his vision for providing “decentralized trust” to new projects on Ethereum. Was Vitalik Buterin’s recent “re-staking” post a shot across EigenLayer’s bow? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Sreeram has transitioned from academia into the world of crypto why he believes that crypto is the “coordination highway” what EigenLayer is – explained to a five-year-old, a high schooler, a day trader, a developer, and a crypto professor how middleware enables technology innovation where the value accrues if there’s no token for securing a blockchain whether Vitalik is right in being concerned about the risk of corrupting validators what EigenLayer did to minimize risks and externalities to Ethereum whether protocols and applications will fork if they get hacked and whether Ethereum will “bail them out” Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest Sreeram Kannan, founder of EigenLayer Previous appearances on Unchained: Do You Need to Think Twice Before Restaking Your Assets? Disclosures Links Don't overload Ethereum's consensus by Vitalik Buterin Previous coverage of Unchained on Ethereum staking: Shapella in the Rearview: After Major Upgrade, What’s Next for Ethereum? How Will ETH React to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade? Post-Merge, If Lido Becomes Dominant, What Does That Mean for Ethereum? In the Recent Crypto Market Meltdown, What Role Did Lido’s stETH Play? Is ETH on Its Way to Becoming Ultra-Sound Money? Yes, Says Justin Drake Learn more: How Liquid Staking Works A Guide to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade How to Stake Ethereum With Liquid Staking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the SEC’s push to rein in the crypto sector, one question looms large: Is ETH a security? Dan Berkovitz, a former CFTC commissioner and SEC general counsel, and Colin Lloyd, a partner at law firm Sullivan & Cromwell, assess the current state of the regulatory turf war in the U.S., shedding light on some of Washington’s unanswered questions. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how an asset can be both a commodity and a security what it means that bitcoin and ether were listed as non-security futures whether The Merge may have changed regulators’ views on the classification of ETH who would be responsible for determining that ETH is a security what Colin and Dan say about ETH being a security or not what would happen if any regulator, be it the CFTC or SEC, determined that ETH is a security how and whether DeFi applications should be regulated why it is important to consider the “human initiative” behind DeFi platforms the implications of having a technology that allows for the sale of securities without an intermediary the implications of the SEC’s proposal to change the definition of an exchange how new technologies were integrated with the regulatory system in the past and how that differs from the current approach of the SEC the problems of trying to regulate a technology that’s changing so fast how other jurisdictions have been taking a more proactive approach to regulating digital assets Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guests: Dan Berkovitz, former General Counsel at the SEC and former Commissioner at the CFTC. Previous appearance on Unchained: Can a DeFi Smart Contract Be Regulated? Two CFTC Commissioners Discuss Colin Lloyd, partner at Sullivan & Cromwell Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto regulation: ‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer Coinbase's Legal Action Against the SEC: How It Will Likely Unfold Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Links CoinDesk: U.S. SEC Moves Toward DeFi Oversight as It Reopens Proposed Regulations SEC Chair Gensler Declines to Say if Ether Is a Security in Contentious Congressional Hearing Bloomberg: CFTC Chair Rostin Behnam on the Fight to Regulate Crypto Unchained: SEC Chair Gary Gensler Avoids Question: ‘Is Ethereum a Security?’ SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’ Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition SEC Asks Court to Deny Coinbase Demand for Crypto Rules Financial Institutions Hub: SEC Proposal Targets Crypto Exchanges, Trading Platforms, and Brokers Emmer and Soto Introduce Bipartisan Bill to Provide Regulatory Clarity for Digital Assets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Robert Leshner, chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, Taproot Wizards instigator Eric Wall joins the show to discuss the rise of Ordinals and what it means for the future of Bitcoin. Will inscriptions and BRC-20 tokens bring a slew of Ethereum-style problems to the original blockchain? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Eric has set up a “war” between the “laser-eye tribe” and the “magicians” how the Bitcoin maxi community is different from the normal Bitcoin user base whether Ordinals fixes the lack of demand for Bitcoin block space what Taproot is and what it enabled on the Bitcoin network the MEV problem that could arise in Bitcoin now that demand for block space is going up whether Bitcoin’s values resemble a religion whether the increased demand for Bitcoin block space is good for the network, even if it’s fueled by JPEGs and “shitcoins” why so many people got worried about Ledger Recover why Robert thinks that Ledger’s new service is “terrifying” and why Haseeb is not so concerned whether Bitcoin is becoming a unit of account once again Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Guest Eric Wall, cofounder of Taproot Wizards Previous appearances on Unchained: Eric Wall and Udi Wertheimer on Why Bitcoin Maximalism Is 'Like a Shitcoin Community' Is Bitcoin Doomed to Fail? Eric Wall and Justin Bons Face Off Why Terra Collapsed and Whether an Algo Stablecoin Can Ever Succeed Disclosures Links CoinDesk: Ledger Bats Back Criticism of New Wallet Recovery Service The Blocksize Wars Revisited: How Bitcoin's Civil War Still Resonates Today Nic Carter: There's No Such Thing as High Fees on Bitcoin Unchained: ‘Backdoor’ for Seed Phrases? Ledger’s New Recovery Feature Spooks Users ​​‘Technically’ Possible to Extract User Keys? Ledger Addresses Deleted Tweet Haseeb Qureshi’s thread on Ledger Recover Previous coverage of Unchained on Ordinals and BRC-20s: Bitcoin’s BRC-20 Mania: Is It Sustainable? Bitcoin Ordinal NFTs Are Hot and Getting Hotter. What's the Hype About? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ledger, the crypto industry’s leading hardware wallet manufacturer, rolled out a new recovery feature this month that caused an uproar. The recovery service has dangerous implications for crypto self-custody, says Foundation Devices Head of Content “Seth For Privacy.” He joins the show to discuss the downsides of closed-source code and the security risks that come with compromising for mainstream adoption. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Ledger Recover works and why it caused an outrage in the crypto community why the fact that Ledger’s code is not open-source could be considered a problem what the concerns are about handing over additional data to Ledger how darknet markets have always existed for fake ID verifications and how it relates to Ledger’s new feature some of Ledger’s previous security lapses why introducing a trusted third party undermines one of Bitcoin’s most central tenets whether Ledger’s move is a “net good for society,” and whether people actually want a service like this in a hardware wallet whether something will go wrong with Ledger in the future Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Stader Labs Guest Seth for Privacy, blogger and head of content at Foundation Devices Blog Foundation Devices Twitter thread on the logistics and risks of the Ledger recovery process Links Ledger CTO Twitter thread on Ledger Recover CoinDesk: Ledger Bats Back Criticism of New Wallet Recovery Service, CoinDesk Unchained: ‘Backdoor’ for Seed Phrases? Ledger’s New Recovery Feature Spooks Users Ledger Recover webpage Haseeb Qureshi’s thread on the Ledger controversy Past Ledger security issues CoinDesk: Crypto Wallet Maker Ledger Loses 1M Email Addresses in Data Theft Cointelegraph: Ledger data leak: A ‘simple mistake’ exposed 270K crypto wallet buyers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ordinal theory has unleashed a new wave of NFTs, memecoins and innovation on Bitcoin — but not without controversy. Bitcoin educator Dan Held and Bitcoin Frontier Fund Managing Partner Trevor Owens join the show to discuss the breakneck rise of BRC-20s and why they’re both bullish on what memecoins mean for the original blockchain. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what ordinal theory is and how it enabled Bitcoin “NFTs” how the Ordinals Protocol differs from the ERC-721 token standard used by many Ethereum NFTs how BRC-20s work by relying on some off-chain mechanisms why Bitcoin is not a “dinosaur chain,” according to Dan why Trevor says BRC-20 memecoins are superior to those on Ethereum what the practical utilities of BRC-20s are, if any why transaction fees in Bitcoin rose so much and why it’s healthy for the network whether innovation is coming back to Bitcoin whether Satoshi Nakamoto would have approved of Bitcoin NFTs the role of speculation in fueling bitcoin adoption the current and future state of layer 2s on Bitcoin why Dan says BRC-20s “absolutely” solve the problem with Bitcoin’s security budget why it’s hard to determine an “appropriate” amount for the security budget of Bitcoin how the NFT market could be shaped after the rise of Ordinals and BRC-20s what needs to be developed so that BRC-20s can flourish Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guests: Dan Held, Bitcoin educator and marketing advisor at Trust Machines Trevor Owens, managing partner at Bitcoin Frontier Fund Previous coverage of Unchained on Ordinals: Bitcoin Ordinal NFTs Are Hot and Getting Hotter. What's the Hype About? - NFT Crypto Links Unchained: How to Create a Bitcoin Ordinal Bitcoin Core Developers Mull Getting Rid of BRC-20 Transactions Binance Briefly Halted Bitcoin Withdrawals Amid Network Congestion Domo’s thread on BRC-20s Anita Posch’s comments.on the high fees Nic Carter: There's No Such Thing as High Fees on Bitcoin Nic Carter’s MIT presentation: MIT Bitcoin Expo 2019 - 10 years of Bitcoin: Evaluating its Performance as a Monetary System Decrypt: Michael Saylor: Bitcoin Ordinals Are a ‘Catalyst’ for Adoption [bitcoin-dev] [Mempool spam] Should we as developers reject non-standard Taproot transactions from full nodes? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they talk about the recent issues surrounding the Aragon Foundation, the likelihood of Montenegro becoming an ETH hub, the BRC-20s mania, and much more! Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Zuzalu is “Burning Man in the daytime” whether Montenegro could become the “ETH El Salvador doppelganger” why the Aragon Foundation alleged that they were under attack why Aragon has “missed the boat on a lot of everything that’s happened in DAOs” whether the Aragon Foundation is “suckling on the teat of the DAO for a fat salary” whether Arca was right about wanting the Aragon treasury to be part of the on-chain governance how on-chain governance can do even more than many of the investment banking functions that exist currently why some Bitcoin developers want to censor BRC-20 transactions why the way XEN works gives Haseeb a headache whether Binance CEO CZ invented the memecoin PEPE what the impact of Jump and Jane Street decreasing their market making activity is where the next market makers will come from Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Disclosures Links Unchained: Coinbase Apologizes After Calling PEPE a ‘Hate Symbol’ Market Makers Jump and Jane Street Withdraw From U.S. Crypto Trading: Report CoinDesk: Aragon Cancels Planned Community Control of $200M Treasury Amid Battle With Activist Investors The Block: Coinbase cuddles up to UAE policymakers as US outlook sours Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

News emerged this week that the U.S. Internal Revenue Service (IRS) placed $44 billion in claims on the FTX bankruptcy estate. Now creditors of the defunct crypto exchange are worried that the taxman is going to gobble up funds that would otherwise be used to make users partially whole. Wassielawyer, a lawyer specializing in restructuring and insolvency, joins the show to explain what’s going on, how that huge number is even possible, and why the so-called “trust argument” is not going to be the silver bullet that some FTX customers are dreaming of. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: whether the numbers of the IRS claim are even correct how these claims may affect all customers and unsecured creditors of FTX whether FTX CEO John Ray will fight the claims what the trust argument is and how it could potentially save (or not) FTX’s creditors in what currency the investments made by creditors would be returned why the Three Arrows Capital case differs from FTX and Mt. Gox why what FTX allegedly did is similar, but different, from what Celsius or Voyager did Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Stader Labs Guest Wassielawyer, a lawyer specializing in restructuring and insolvency Previous appearances on Unchained: Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack Why the Messy 3AC, Celsius, and Voyager Bankruptcies Will Drag on for Years Three Crypto Bankruptcies: 3AC, Celsius and Voyager. What Happens Now? Links CoinDesk: U.S. Internal Revenue Service Files Claims Worth $44 Billion Against FTX Bankruptcy MeatTC’s Twitter thread Wassie’s Twitter thread Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Longtime crypto reporter Brady Dale has beat Michael Lewis to market with the first book on the dramatic collapse of FTX. In stores today, “SBF: How the FTX Bankruptcy Unwound Crypto’s Very Bad Good Guy,” tells the tale of the outsized role that Sam Bankman-Fried played in the FTX-Alameda death spiral. Drawing on years of reporting and interviews with SBF himself, the book charts the rise and fall of the one-time crypto wunderkind. “It became clear to me that Sam got really addicted to fame,” said Dale. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Brady’s background and how he came to cover crypto how covering the space for a crypto outlet is different from a more mainstream publication how Brady was able to finalize his book so fast what Brady’s favorite parts of the book are who was really responsible for the collapse of the FTX empire whether Sam Bankman-Fried will plead guilty whether FTX will make a comeback how SBF thinks differently from other people, and how it led to his downfall why Brady thinks the “dot-com bust” for crypto has yet to arrive whether crypto has betrayed its cypherpunk ideals Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guests: Brady Dale, writer and reporter at Axios, and author of “SBF: How the FTX Bankruptcy Unwound Crypto’s Very Bad Good Guy” Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning? How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Genesis bankruptcy is about to take a high-stakes turn with a $630 million payment from Digital Currency Group (DCG) due by May 11. Barry Silbert’s DCG, the parent company of Genesis, is on the hook for the massive payment, but doubts are swirling as to whether the crypto conglomerate can cover it. Lumida Wealth CEO Ram Ahluwalia joins the show to unpack what could happen to Genesis creditors, Gemini Earn users, and the markets should DCG fail to cover its debt obligations. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: whether DCG will be able to pay its debt to the Genesis bankruptcy estate the ways DCG can “plug the hole” what the likelihood of DCG filing for bankruptcy is how FTX’s intent to claw back $3.9 billion from Genesis would affect DCG whether Gemini Earn customers will be made whole why Ram says that asymmetric information has plagued the bankruptcy process whether the creditors should accept the latest term sheet how the Grayscale lawsuit against the SEC could impact DCG’s cash flow Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Stader Labs Guest Ram Ahluwalia, CEO & Founder of Lumida Wealth Previous appearances on Unchained: ​​Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It? Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy? How Will the FTX Collapse Affect Silvergate? A Bear and a Bull Debate How Is the Fed Going to Respond to the Banking Crisis? Links Unchained: FTX Moves to Claw Back $3.9 Billion From Genesis Reuters: Crypto group DCG says bankrupt unit Genesis' creditors renege on deal CoinDesk: Genesis Files for Mediator Assistance Over Amount of DCG Contribution to Reorganization DCG's CFO Steps Down as Crypto Conglomerate Repays $350M Loan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Sreeram Kannan, founder of EigenLayer, and Konstantin Lomashuk, cofounder of Lido Finance, discuss the complex world of staking in Ethereum's post-Shanghai ecosystem. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how the staking ecosystem in Ethereum looks after the full completion of the Merge what EigenLayer is and why it's called that whether EigenLayer's model is more similar to Polkadot or, actually, to Ethereum Layer 2s what the risks of restaking are, for both projects and users how Lido is working to keep Ethereum decentralized and censorship-resistant what superfluid staking is and whether it could be done on Ethereum how EigenLayer incentivizes alignment between the delegator and the stakers whether there's a risk that Lido could become a governance layer for Ethereum what can be done to increase staking services adoption Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guests: Sreeram Kannan, founder of EigenLayer Konstantin Lomashuk, cofounder of Lido Finance Previous coverage of Unchained on Ethereum staking: Shapella in the Rearview: After Major Upgrade, What’s Next for Ethereum? How Will ETH React to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade? Post-Merge, If Lido Becomes Dominant, What Does That Mean for Ethereum? In the Recent Crypto Market Meltdown, What Role Did Lido’s stETH Play? Is ETH on Its Way to Becoming Ultra-Sound Money? Yes, Says Justin Drake Learn more: How Liquid Staking Works A Guide to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade How to Stake Ethereum With Liquid Staking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news in digital assets. In this live episode from Consensus 2023, they are joined by Avery Ching, chief architect of Aptos, to discuss the latest SEC enforcement actions, an embarrasing admission by audit firm Certik, and crypto’s impact on the coming election. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: everyone's impressions of the conference why Korea has become a hub for crypto adoption why there's no benchmarking infrastructure to compare data across blockchains how Sui decided not to airdrop a token and what the implications for future airdrops are whether CertiK bears responsibility in the Merlin DEX rugpull whether the US elections have an effect on how the SEC is playing the case with Coinbase what impact AI will have on the crypto industry Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Guest Avery Ching, cofounder and CTO of Aptos Disclosures Links Unchained: Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition ​​Exploit or Rug Pull? $1.8 Million Drained From zkSync DEX Merlin Despite Audit SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’ CoinDesk: Sui Network to Issue Token Following Exchange Sale; Airdrop Hunters Dismayed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Major crypto exchange Coinbase has decided to take action to get an answer from the Securities and Exchange Commission: this week, they filed a court action seeking to compel Gary Gensler’s agency to give specific rulemaking on crypto assets. J.W. Verret, associate professor of law at George Mason Law School, talks about how both parties are playing this game, how it could change the Howey test, and much more. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: whether there's a long-term chess strategy being played by Coinbase whether the case could actually change the Howey test why the 'West Virginia vs. EPA' is important for crypto what the SEC's strategy is and why the Kraken settlement was an “overreach,” according to J.W. whether the SEC could develop a new framework for crypto assets how the Ripple case will unfold and how long it will take if it is appealed Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Guest J.W. Verret, Associate Professor of Law at George Mason Law School J.W.’s thread My story of telling the SEC ‘I told you so’ on FTX Public Request for Rulemaking: Securities Regulation Genesis Block Proposal Previous coverage of Unchained on the SEC’s actions: Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Links Unchained: Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition - Unchained Crypto Coinbase takes another formal step to seek regulatory clarity from SEC for the crypto industry IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT COINBASE, INC.’S PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS TO THE Coinbase petition for SEC rulemaking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two lawyers, Josh Klayman, head of digital assets at Linklaters, and Marc Boiron, chief legal officer at Polygon Labs, offer their takes on the SEC’s recent crypto crackdown. They share what they heard from SEC Chair Gary Gensler’s Congressional testimony, whether this crackdown was inevitable or sparked by FTX, and why a proposed change to the definition of an exchange could be an existential threat for DeFi in the U.S. Show highlights: what Gary Gensler’s approach to crypto was when he took office whether the FTX collapse had any impact at all on the SEC’s recent actions whether the actions against Coinbase are “inappropriate” what the differences between Coinbase and Kraken staking services are why the concept of “exemptive relief” is important for exchanges whether the SEC is looking to go after AMM-based decentralized exchanges why SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce says that complying with a new proposal wouldn’t be possible for much of DeFi why, according to Marc, the industry should be “pushing very hard” against the newly proposed definition of an exchange whether the SEC’s ability to pursue enforcement actions against ETH is diminished by the statements of the previous SEC chair Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Josh Klayman, head of blockchain and digital assets at Linklaters, Marc Boiron, chief legal officer at Polygon Labs. Sufficient Decentralization Previous coverage of Unchained on the SEC’s actions: ‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ SEC Chair Gary Gensler Avoids Question: ‘Is Ethereum a Security?’ SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’ Links CoinDesk: U.S. SEC Moves Toward DeFi Oversight as It Reopens Proposed Regulations Proposed rule: Amendments Regarding the Definition of “Exchange” and Alternative Trading Systems (ATSs) Rendering Innovation Kaput: Statement on Amending the Definition of Exchange POLITICO: McHenry clashes with SEC’s Gensler over crypto crackdown Forbes: Crypto Exchange Beaxy Shuts Down Amid SEC Charges Treasury Releases 2023 DeFi Illicit Finance Risk Assessment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, the gang plays “guess the chart” and takes a deep dive into the booming world of Ethereum Layer 2s. Show highlights: how much Layer 2s are spending to post data to Ethereum whether L2s suck up all the value of ETH the challenge of providing a good user experience across multiple rollups how the underlying technology of security is not improving but attackers are getting more sophisticated whether centralized lending in the industry is dead why crypto users still hold stablecoins that yield much lower than Treasury bills the new approach to bringing real-world assets and tokenized yields to blockchains whether all L2s are running via proof of authority whether alternative Layer 1s are dead or are actually more important than ETH L2s Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Disclosures Links Hildebert’s charts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It got heated this week on Capitol Hill with SEC Chair Gary Gensler testifying before the House Financial Services Committee on his agency’s efforts to rein in the U.S. crypto industry. Jason Gottlieb, partner at Morrison Cohen, unpacks what was said and whether we’ll continue to see more crackdowns from the U.S. securities regulator. Show highlights: Whether ETH is a security and what would be the impact if it was declared as such by the SEC Whether the SEC is harming investors What the potential impacts of the SEC lawsuit against Bittrex are Why the case against crypto exchange Beaxy could serve as a precursor to a potential case against Coinbase How the SEC’s lack of clear regulation is pushing crypto out of America, according to Jason Why the SEC is trying to expand the definition of an exchange and its possible effects on DeFi Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Guest Jason Gottlieb, Partner at Morrison Cohen & Chair of the Digital Assets Department Previous appearances on Unchained: The Department of Justice Goes After Its First NFT Insider Trading Case Previous coverage of Unchained on the SEC’s actions: Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Links CoinDesk: U.S. SEC Moves Toward DeFi Oversight as It Reopens Proposed Regulations Unchained: SEC Chair Gary Gensler Avoids Question: ‘Is Ethereum a Security?’ SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’ Proposed rule: Amendments Regarding the Definition of “Exchange” and Alternative Trading Systems (ATSs) Rendering Innovation Kaput: Statement on Amending the Definition of Exchange POLITICO: McHenry clashes with SEC’s Gensler over crypto crackdown Forbes: Crypto Exchange Beaxy Shuts Down Amid SEC Charges Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maximal extractable value, or MEV, is a mainstay of the Ethereum landscape. But the process of validators reaping profits from handling new blocks is not without controversy. Ethereum Foundation researcher Justin Drake and bloXroute Labs CEO Uri Klarman assess the current state of MEV. Hear them disagree about the path forward for making Ethereum fairer for all its economic actors. Show highlights: what MEV is and how it has evolved over time the nuances of the newly proposed MEV Blocker and why it’s important for users whether it’s possible to enable “back-running” while preventing front-running how to give power back to blockchain users what the differences and similarities are among several projects trying to solve MEV how “MEV Burn” will be like the EIP-1559 to what Justin calls contention whether EigenLayer can help solve MEV problems whether wallets and DEXs could be doing something different to prevent MEV and generate more revenue how “exclusive order flow” could be detrimental to DeFi users what proposer-builder separation (PBS) is and whether it will change MEV distribution why Uri doesn’t think PBS is the right step forward for Ethereum Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Justin Drake, researcher at the Ethereum Foundation Uri Klarman, CEO of bloXroute Labs Links Previous coverage of Unchained on MEV: Why Is Ethereum Trying to Maximize Value From Users? Two Sides Debate The Chopping Block: Why the Once-Taboo MEV Is Now a Core Part of Ethereum MEV Blocker CoinDesk: MEV Blocker Wants to Help You Outrun the Front-Runners MEV Blocker Unchained: Ethereum Builders Join Forces to Launch MEV Blocker MEV Distribution CoinDesk: Flashbots Proposes New Class of 'Matchmakers' to Share MEV Gains With Ethereum Users MEV-Share: programmably private orderflow to share MEV with users - The Flashbots Ship BackRunMe Wallet-Boost Design Doc · blocknative discourse · Discussion #1 · GitHub OpenMEV Mechanics and Formulas - Manifold Finance MEV Smoothing Committee-driven MEV smoothing - Economics MEV Burn Burning MEV through block proposer auctions - Economics Proposer-Builder separation Proposer-builder separation | ethereum.org Vitalik Buterin’s tweet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they’re joined by Unchained’s Laura Shin to debate FTX revival rumors, what the U.S. Treasury got wrong about DeFi, and whether VCs are antithetical to crypto’s core principles. Show highlights: how much ETH is getting unstaked and deposited after Shapella the market reaction following the successful implementation of the upgrade whether FTX could reopen after its massive collapse why Robert thinks rebooting the exchange is a “terrible” idea whether FTX could do the same thing as Bitfinex and issue a debt token for creditors how the U.S. government misunderstands decentralized finance, in stark contrast with regulators from other parts of the world whether DeFi front-ends should be subject to the Bank Secrecy Act whether VCs go against the principles of crypto the difference between democratizing finance and democratizing fundraising Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Guest Laura Shin, author, and CEO of Unchained Disclosures Links Shapella: Previous coverage of Unchained on the upgrade: Shapella in the Rearview: After Major Upgrade, What’s Next for Ethereum? Ethereum's Shapella Upgrade - What to Expect? How Will ETH React to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade? Unchained: Staked Ethereum Withdrawals Enabled As Shanghai Upgrade Goes Live Ethereum Surges Past $2,000 Post-Shanghai, $2 Billion Staked Withdrawals Pending Nansen: The Shanghai Upgrade Dashboard CoinDesk: What’s Next After the Ethereum Shanghai Upgrade Known as Shapella FTX: Unchained: FTX Could Reopen Crypto Exchange, Recovers $7.3 Billion in Assets Treasury Report: Unchained: Poor DeFi Cybersecurity Presents Risks for National Security, Says U.S. Treasury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura’s 10-Year Anniversary of Self-Employment: A Personal Message Laura Shin, the host of Unchained, celebrated her 10-year anniversary of self-employment on Wednesday, April 12. She tells her story and has a message that she hopes will help others on their journeys. Links: Original Twitter thread Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week’s major Ethereum upgrade, Shapella (it was really two upgrades, Shanghai and Capella, in one), brings the network’s multi-year journey to proof-of-stake to a close. With validator withdrawals now live, the Ethereum Foundation’s Tim Beiko explains Shapella’s significance, why EIP-4844 is the next big thing, and what else is on Ethereum’s roadmap. Show highlights: how Ethereum transitioned from a proof-of-work consensus mechanism to proof-of-stake what the concerns about enabling withdrawals among developers were why the upgrade has “de-risked” staking on Ethereum whether there are going to be more solo stakers now that The Merge is fully completed what’s next in the roadmap of Ethereum and how EIP-4844 will decrease the cost of posting data for Layer 2s what “proposer-builder separation” is and what it intends to solve Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Guest Tim Beiko, head of the Ethereum protocol developer calls Previous appearances on Unchained: Why Ethereum's Merge Was Delayed and Why It Won't Reduce Gas Fees Much Previous coverage of Unchained on the upgrade: Ethereum's Shapella Upgrade - What to Expect? How Will ETH React to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade? Links Unchained: Staked Ethereum Withdrawals Enabled As Shanghai Upgrade Goes Live Nansen: The Shanghai Upgrade Dashboard CoinDesk: What’s Next After the Ethereum Shanghai Upgrade Known as Shapella Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How can decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs) be more resilient? Gabriel Shapiro, general counsel at Delphi Labs, and Fatemeh Fannizadeh, lawyer and researcher at Geneva-legal.ch, survey the landscape and offer their insights on what will fuel the next wave of DAO innovation. Are new rules from U.S. states like Wyoming and Utah a boon for DAO creation? Or will the proceedings against Ooki DAO by U.S. regulators cast a pall on this emerging segment of the Web3 world? Show highlights: how Gabriel and Fatemeh determine whether something is actually a DAO the pressing legal issues around DAO formation where the liabilities lie in these types of organizations Delphi Labs’ new “borg” concept and the problems it aims to solve what jurisdictions are more appropriate for different DAOs the nuances of Wyoming’s DAO LLC law Utah’s Introduction of LLDs – limited liability DAOs – and why it is innovative why the CFTC filed a lawsuit against Ooki DAO whether governance token holders are liable for the DAO’s actions how the Ooki lawsuit will impact how DAOs structure their activities in the future what happened in the MakerDAO case and its implications why Fatemeh and Gabriel disagree on whether the Mango DAO’s agreement to not pursue actions against Avi Eisenberg was legally binding Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Gabriel Shapiro, general counsel at Delphi Labs Previous appearances on Unchained: What Does Mango Markets Exploiter Avi Eisenberg’s Arrest in Puerto Rico Mean for DeFi? Fatemeh Fannizadeh, lawyer and researcher at Geneva-legal.ch Lawmakers In New Hampshire And Utah Recognize DAOs As Legal Persons Links MakerDAO: CoinDesk: Crypto Investors' $28M ‘Black Thursday’ Lawsuit Against DeFi Giant Maker Dismissed by US Judge Mango Markets: CoinDesk: Legal Expert Says Mango Markets Exploit Case Is Wake-Up Call for DAOs Avi Eisenberg Detained Unlike SBF As Mango Labs Is Denied Injunction But TRO to March 15 Unchained: The Mango Markets Attacker on Whether His 'Trade' Was Ethical or Not CFTC Charges Mango Markets Exploiter With Market Manipulation Mango Markets Exploiter Arrested on Market Manipulation Charges Tornado Cash Unchained: The Chopping Block: Did OFAC Overstep by Sanctioning Tornado Cash? Given the Sanctions on Tornado Cash, Is Ethereum Censorship Resistant? Tornado Cash Sanctioned. Did the Government Overstep Its Bounds? Ooki DAO: Unchained: Why the Ooki DAO Case Could Hurt Participation in DAOs CoinDesk: Interpreting the CFTC’s Lawsuit Against Ooki DAO Wyoming law Legal Nodes: Wyoming LLC as a DAO Legal Wrapper: What You Need to Know Utah The National Law Review: Utah Passes Innovative DAO Legislation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amidst a wide-ranging crackdown on all kinds of crypto players, Representative Tom Emmer talks about recent enforcement actions, the classification of cryptocurrencies as securities or commodities, the potential impact of US regulatory actions on the country’s global economic power, and the Federal Reserve's upcoming payment system. He touches on the importance of innovation and entrepreneurship in the crypto industry and the role of government in fostering these developments. Show highlights: why Rep. Emmer thinks there's an operation to cut crypto off from the banking system how, as he puts it, Sen. Elizabeth Warren has been 'dancing on the grave' of the recent banking failures how the interest in crypto in Congress has changed over time, especially after the Infrastructure bill in 2021 whether the CFTC lawsuit against Binance represents an "appropriate" use of enforcement actions why Rep. Emmer says that bureaucrats are trying to polarize blockchain technology how the US’s attitudes toward crypto could affect the country’s global power why he is against FedNow, the new Federal Reserve's payment system Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Guest Congressman and House Majority Whip Tom Emmer Previous appearances on Unchained: Rep. Tom Emmer, One of the Most Active Crypto Congress Members, on Taxes and DeFi Links Operation Choke Point 2.0: Coverage of Unchained Podcast on the topic: Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Operation Choke Point 2.0 Is Underway, And Crypto Is In Its Crosshairs Enforcement actions Unchained: CFTC Sues Binance and CZ Over US Regulatory Violations SEC Issues Coinbase a Wells Notice Coverage of Unchained Podcast on the recent regulatory crackdown: Why the CFTC Case Against Binance Will Have Very Important Consequences for Crypto Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they are joined by Laura Shin, author, journalist, and host of Unchained, to discuss the drama around the Arbitrum governance’s proposal, the MEV attack on Ethereum, the Shanghai upgrade… and much more! Show highlights: what the intentions behind Arbitrum Foundation's ratification poll were why Tarun says that it was suggested by a crypto lawyer what will happen to Ethereum staking after the Shanghai upgrade how ETH provides 'organic yield,' according to Tarun whether staking makes ETH a security how a validator on Ethereum got slashed after a $25 million MEV attack the drawbacks of how Proof of Stake requires a locked stake, while Proof of Work allows joining and leaving freely whether Tarun should cut his hair (yes, this was actually discussed) Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Guest Laura Shin, author, and host of Unchained Disclosures Links Arbitrum DAO Unchained: Arbitrum Backtracks on AIP-1 After Community Backlash MEV attack Unchained: Rogue Ethereum Validator Slashed After $25 Million MEV Bot Attack Euler hack Unchained: Euler Hacker Returns All $200 Million Stolen in Exploit Shanghai: Unchained: A Guide to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade Single Secret Leader Election Gauntlet’s View on the Shanghai Upgrade Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brian Quintenz, head of policy for a16z crypto, and Nic Carter, general partner at Castle Island Ventures, talk about Operation Choke Point 2.0, the relationship between the government and the crypto industry, the status of different tokens as securities or commodities, and potential future developments in the space Show highlights: what the original Operation Choke Point was like the "evidence" that shows that Operation Choke Point 2.0 against crypto is real, according to Nic how hard it is for crypto companies to get banked in the U.S. whether crypto had anything to do with the current banking crisis whether agencies such as the CFTC and the SEC are performing coordinated action against the industry how the collapse of FTX changed the approach of banking regulators toward crypto whether the U.S. needs to change its regulatory approach to maintain its status as a global leader whether crypto is a threat to the U.S. dollar and the financial system how Tether has benefited from the recent regulatory events why Brian says that the SEC has already demonstrated that BTC and – also ETH -- are not securities Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Brian Quintenz, head of policy for a16z crypto Nic Carter, general partner at Castle Island Ventures Did The Government Start A Global Financial Crisis In An Attempt To Destroy Crypto? Operation Choke Point 2.0 Is Underway, And Crypto Is In Its Crosshairs Previous coverage of Unchained on the banking situation: Jim Bianco on Why the Banking System Has Always Been Broken The Fed Is In Checkmate: What Will Powell Do? The Fall of SVB: What Happened and How It Affects Crypto Previous coverage of Unchained on the recent regulatory crackdown: Why the CFTC Case Against Binance Will Have Very Important Consequences for Crypto Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Links NYMAG: Barney Frank Talks More About the Surprise Shuttering of Signature Bank Unchained: Was Signature Bank Actually Insolvent? Regulators Close Signature Bank Following SVB Collapse CFTC Sues Binance and CZ Over US Regulatory Violations CoinDesk Editorial: It Sure Looks Like the U.S. Is Trying to Kill Crypto The Administration’s Roadmap to Mitigate Cryptocurrencies’ Risks | NEC | The White House Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Austin Campbell, a professor at Columbia Business School, discusses the recent allegations made by the CFTC against Binance, and whether or not criminal charges will be brought against company officers such as CEO Changpeng Zhao, or CZ, or former Chief Compliance Officer Samuel Lim. He also sheds light on how this case could shape which agency will have regulatory authority over crypto assets. Show highlights: what the CFTC's allegations against Binance are whether Binance and its employees will face criminal charges what the two most likely scenarios for Binance are, according to Austin how regulators got so many details and so much information from CZ's phone whether CZ is personally liable and whether the US could extradite him how the CFTC used the complaint to state that BTC, LTC, ETH, and some stablecoins are commodities Why Austin believes Coinbase would be the "single biggest winner" if Binance US is shut down how this case is going to help determine which agency has jurisdiction to regulate crypto assets Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Guest Austin Campbell, professor at Columbia Business School and Managing Partner at Zero Knowledge Consulting Previous coverage on Unchained: Just a Coincidence? Coinbase and Polygon Lawyers See Bad Omens in SEC Crackdown Links CFTC vs. Binance Unchained: CFTC Sues Binance and CZ Over US Regulatory Violations Bloomberg’s Matt Levine: The CFTC Comes for Binance Previous coverage on Unchained: The Chopping Block: Is This the Beginning of the End for Binance? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they discuss Binance's recent regulatory issues, the potential impact on the crypto markets, the CFTC's stance on tokens, and also touch on Do Kwon's arrest and Hong Kong's approach to crypto regulation. Show highlights: whether the chief compliance officer of Binance was aware of how the exchange was evading compliance how the CFTC contradicted the SEC about some tokens being securities whether Binance was trading against its customers what the future of Binance looks like after the CFTC lawsuit how the Do Kwon arrest coincided with Vitalik running an experiment in Montenegro how the SEC's Wells Notice against Coinbase will affect the exchange whether all the regulatory actions are coordinated what would happen to the crypto markets if Binance goes down how Hong Kong’s approach to crypto regulation contrasts with that of the US Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Disclosures Links CFTC vs. Binance Unchained: CFTC Sues Binance and CZ Over US Regulatory Violations Coinbase Wells Notice Previous coverage of Unchained: Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Coinbase: We asked the SEC for reasonable crypto rules for Americans. We got legal threats instead. The Crypto Securities Market is Waiting to be Unlocked. But First We Need Workable Rules. Unchained: SEC Issues Coinbase a Wells Notice U.S. Supreme Court Hears First Crypto Case: Coinbase Arbitration Dispute Bloomberg: Coinbase (COIN) Gets SEC Wells Notice Over Crypto Offerings Do Kwon Unchained: Do Kwon Arrested in Montenegro, Faces Criminal Charges From US Prosecutors Do Kwon Plans to Appeal 30-Day Detention Extension After Arrest DL News: US requests extradition of Do Kwon from Montenegro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Stanford cryptography professor Dan Boneh and a16z General Partner Ali Yahya elevate our knowledge of zero-knowledge proofs and their applications in the blockchain world. Listen as they dive into the intricacies of succinct proof systems, the difference between SNARKs and STARKs, the magic of recursive SNARKs, and why zero-knowledge systems are essential to the evolution of Ethereum. Show highlights: how Ali became a general partner at a16z Crypto and why Dan started working on “the science of blockchains” what a succinct proof system is analogies for understanding zero-knowledge proofs the difference between SNARKs and STARKs and whether centralization can be fully avoided how zero-knowledge technology became so crucial for blockchains the reasons to push computations off-chain and the applications of this technology why zkEVMs are essential to help Ethereum scale why privacy is important not only in financial transactions but also in other areas like social networks and gaming the challenges that arise from trusted setups and whether it would be possible to create false proofs how to mitigate the trusted setup problem with different proof systems what is being built to make zero-knowledge proofs cheaper to create whether a privacy-focused technology can be pursued while staying compliant with regulations how zero-knowledge proofs can improve the security of blockchain bridges Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Ali Yahya, general partner at a16z crypto Dan Boneh, professor of computer science and electrical engineering, Stanford University; and senior research advisor, a16z crypto Using ZK Proofs to Fight Disinformation Links Unchained: zkEVM: The Computing Overhaul to Help Scale Ethereum Previous coverage of Unchained on zero-knowledge: Can You Trace Monero? 'It's Hard - But Not Impossible,' Says Nick Bax a16z crypto: Privacy-Protecting Regulatory Solutions Using Zero-Knowledge Proofs: Full Paper zkDocs: Zero-knowledge Information Sharing How the Coming Privacy Layer Will Fix the Broken Web CoinDesk: Polygon Rolls Out Zero-Knowledge, Privacy-Enhanced Identification Product Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paul Grewal, Coinbase’s chief legal officer, shares his concerns about the SEC’s recent warning that it would pursue legal action against the crypto exchange. With the U.S. markets regulator failing to provide clear rules on digital assets, Grewal discusses the implications for Coinbase and for the future of crypto in the United States. Show highlights: why Grewal was not surprised by the Wells notice how Coinbase asked the SEC multiple times for clear rules and got no response, according to Grewal how the SEC is withholding information about which rules Coinbase allegedly broke, according to Grewal Coinbase’s efforts to disclose everything about its operations whether Grewal thinks there was a change in the regulators’ approach after the collapse of FTX why Grewal thinks this is not the right way to go to keep crypto in the United States the jurisdictional fight between the CFTC and the SEC whether Coinbase will proceed with litigation why Grewal thinks the Wells notice is a “shot at crypto as a whole” why Coinbase believes that its products are “fully compliant” what opportunities the U.S. Congress has to legislate blockchain technology Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Guest Paul Grewal, chief legal officer at Coinbase Previous appearances on Unchained: Just a Coincidence? Coinbase and Polygon Lawyers See Bad Omens in SEC Crackdown Links Coinbase: We asked the SEC for reasonable crypto rules for Americans. We got legal threats instead. The Crypto Securities Market is Waiting to be Unlocked. But First We Need Workable Rules. Unchained: SEC Issues Coinbase a Wells Notice U.S. Supreme Court Hears First Crypto Case: Coinbase Arbitration Dispute Bloomberg: Coinbase (COIN) Gets SEC Wells Notice Over Crypto Offerings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, NEAR co-founder and former Google AI researcher Illia Polosukhin joins the show to discuss the intersection of crypto and machine learning. Show highlights: whether Signature was shut down because of its crypto arm whether banking crypto is riskier than banking other industries how Balaji’s $1 million BTC bet is just highly effective marketing whether the Fed is doing quantitative easing again how the artificial intelligence industry has changed over the years why Illia says that “open source always wins” the intersection of blockchain technology and AI whether a broken Tesla could become the world’s greatest investor Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Guest Illia Polosukhin, co-founder of Near Disclosures Links Signature and Banking Unchained: $4 Billion in Crypto Deposits Not Included in Flagstar Signature Deal Was Signature Bank Actually Insolvent? Regulators Close Signature Bank Following SVB Collapse Jim Bianco on Why the Banking System Has Always Been Broken Nic Carter: Operation Choke Point 2.0 Is Underway, And Crypto Is In Its Crosshairs Arthur Hayes: Kaiseki Balaji’s bet Coin Edition: Balaji Bets $1M on Bitcoin Price, Says US Hyperinflation Is Underway Artificial Intelligence: Richard Sutton: The Bitter Lesson Facebook: Introducing LLaMA: A foundational, 65-billion-parameter large language model Stanford: Alpaca: A Strong, Replicable Instruction-Following Model Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Custodia Bank, and Meltem Demirors, chief strategy officer of CoinShares, share their concerns about crypto in the U.S. following a wild week in the banking sector. With Signature Bank’s takeover looking like a targeted takedown and crypto-friendly upstarts like Custodia being shadowbanned by the Fed, the two longtime experts look ahead at the fights to come. Is USDC next to land in regulators’ crosshairs? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how crypto is viewed as a “big, scary, and strange” industry how Signature and Silvergate became so important for the crypto industry with SEN and Signet why Caitlin says it’s “crystal clear” that we are now in Operation Choke Point 2.0, with U.S. regulators pushing to debank the crypto industry why Caitlin says the Fed’s vote against Custodia’s application was preordained whether Sen. Elizabeth Warren had an impact on the current crisis how everything comes down to game theory whether VCs are responsible for causing the bank run whether the rollback in 2018 of certain provisions of the Dodd-Frank Act played a role in the recent collapse Caitlin’s hot takes on what happened with Signature Bank the unique characteristics of Custodia’s business model as a bank how stablecoins challenge the current financial system why it’s so important for crypto to improve its public perception Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Meltem Demirors, Chief Strategy Officer at CoinShares Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Custodia Bank Links Previous coverage of Unchained: Jim Bianco on Why the Banking System Has Always Been Broken The Fed Is In Checkmate: What Will Powell Do? The Fall of SVB: What Happened and How It Affects Crypto NYT: Congress Approves First Big Dodd-Frank Rollback NYMAG: Barney Frank Talks More About the Surprise Shuttering of Signature Bank WSJ Editorial Board: Signature Bank’s Crypto Execution Unchained: FDIC Denies Asking Signature Buyers to Give Up Crypto: Report Was Signature Bank Actually Insolvent? Circle to Bring On New Banking Partner for USDC Minting, Redemption Circle Clears Backlog of USDC Minting and Redemption Requests Regulators Close Signature Bank Following SVB Collapse ​​Silvergate to Wind Down Operations in ‘Voluntary Liquidation’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jim Bianco, president and macro strategist at Bianco Research, explains what’s causing the recent cascade of bank failures. Yield seekers taking their money elsewhere are putting banks under strain. However, the Signature Bank takeover by New York regulators is “a little fishy,” Bianco says. He adds that DeFi has been holding up strong, providing an “alternative to this unstable system that we have right now.” Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Jim thinks this is a liquidity crisis, not a solvency crisis the role of crypto and tech startups in the recent bank run how people have been pulling out of crypto in the past 18 months why the traditional fractional reserve system for banks is broken why crypto projects like Aave and Compound are solutions why Jim says the Fed is a “legal counterfeiter” why money moving around so fast is a challenge to our antiquated financial system whether Signet, Signature Bank’s digital payments platform, is the real reason why regulators shut the bank down whether the Fed will succeed or fail with FedNow, its instant payment system Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Guest Jim Bianco, President and founder of Bianco Research Links Unchained: The Fall of SVB: What Happened and How It Affects Crypto Was Signature Bank Actually Insolvent? Circle to Bring On New Banking Partner for USDC Minting, Redemption Regulators Close Signature Bank Following SVB Collapse Silvergate to Wind Down Operations in ‘Voluntary Liquidation’ CNBC: Long-awaited Fed digital payment system to launch in July Ram Ahluwalia’s tweet on the Fed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week: Silicon Valley Bank went belly up and knocked USDC off its peg with it. For good measure, Signature Bank was taken over by regulators. After a hellish weekend, what did we learn? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what happened with Silicon Valley Bank why USDC depegged and reached a low of 88 cents how Maker responded to the depegging of USDC whether DeFi responded flawlessly to the chaotic events how Haseeb’s VC fund, Dragonfly, was ensnared in SVB’s collapse what Tarun thinks made Elizabeth Warren change her tune on SVB whether Signature Bank was shut down because of its crypto-related activities why bonds are not marked to market by banks which company is going to issue the euro-dollar stablecoin how BTC has been outperforming the NASDAQ since the FTX collapse how Euler Finance got hacked for almost $200 million whether flash loans should be banned the rules around crypto and finance in the Middle East why DeFi is a fundamental innovation that’s better than many financial systems across the world Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Disclosures Links Unchained: The Fall of SVB: What Happened and How It Affects Crypto Was Signature Bank Actually Insolvent? Euler Finance Loses $197 Million in Flash Loan Exploit MakerDAO to Reinforce DAI Peg With Parameter Changes Circle to Bring On New Banking Partner for USDC Minting, Redemption Coinbase Says It Holds $240 Million in Cash at Signature Bank Regulators Close Signature Bank Following SVB Collapse Silvergate to Wind Down Operations in ‘Voluntary Liquidation’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ETH staking began in December 2020. With Ethereum’s Shanghai upgrade, which could happen as early as mid-April, withdrawals of staked ETH will finally be enabled. Will validators rush to cash out? Or will Shanghai bring more institutional stakers into the fold? Christine Kim, VP of research at Galaxy Digital, joins the show to discuss how Etheruem’s latest upgrade will affect the network, and maybe even ETH’s price. Show highlights: how Christine became an Ethereum expert what you need to know about Ethereum’s Shanghai upgrade when Shanghai is expected to go live on mainnet what the difference is between Shanghai and Capella possible outcomes following the activation of staked ETH withdrawals whether Shanghai makes ETH staking more attractive to institutions why Christine thinks there won’t be much impact on ETH’s price how Shanghai will impact liquid staking providers upgrades that are coming to Lido and Rocket Pool what will happen in Ethereum’s subsequent upgrade: Cancun what “proto-danksharding” is and how it will help Ethereum scale what New York Attorney General Letitia James got wrong when she said ETH is a security how Ethereum development has become more and more decentralized over the years the next steps in Ethereum’s roadmap why Christine is still concerned about Lido and staking centralization what zkEVMs are and why they play a key role in the future of Ethereum scaling Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com FTSE Halborn Guest: Christine Kim, Vice president of research at Galaxy Digital Twitter Links Post-Merge, If Lido Becomes Dominant, What Does That Mean for Ethereum? In the Recent Crypto Market Meltdown, What Role Did Lido’s stETH Play? Is ETH on Its Way to Becoming Ultra-Sound Money? Yes, Says Justin Drake ETHDenver presentation: Staked ETH Withdrawals: A Step-By-Step Overview with Christine Kim Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

BitMEX founder Arthur Hayes, fresh out of home confinement after settling charges with the U.S. government, joins “The Chopping Block” with Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra. The early crypto pioneer pulls no punches in his assessment of SBF, TradFi’s failings, and how crypto traders lost the plot in trusting CeFi middlemen. Show highlights: why Arthur travels with stuffed animals, and what his favorite brands are what factors led Sam Bankman-Fried to success how Bill Clinton seems to be related to many multibillion-dollar downfalls whether everyone in crypto thinks that prices are eventually going up what’s the thesis behind Maelstrom, Arthur’s new investment arm why he’s bullish on decentralization but also game to trade “dog shit” what the impact of Silvergate’s failure will be on the crypto industry what would Arthur have done if he was the CEO of Silvergate the role of rising interest rates in understanding Silvergate’s downfall why holding Tether’s USDT is not so different from USDC why crypto needs alternatives to dollar-backed stablecoins the real reasons why the U.S. Treasury is worried about stablecoins Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Guest Arthur Hayes, cofounder of BitMEX Twitter Medium Disclosures Links Unchained: ​​Silvergate to Wind Down Operations in ‘Voluntary Liquidation’ Silvergate Confers With FDIC to Avoid Closing Down: Report Silvergate Shuts Down Crypto Payments Network Bloomberg: Silvergate Had a Crypto Bank Run NYMAG: Arthur Hayes, the Original King of Crypto, Is Back. Arthur’s posts: White Boy Dust on Crust Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Elliott Stein, senior litigation analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, shares his insights from a court hearing this week on the SEC’s rejection of Grayscale’s bid to convert GBTC into a spot bitcoin ETF. Stein says federal appellate court judges seemed skeptical of the SEC’s arguments for why bitcoin futures ETFs are OK while bitcoin spot ETFs aren’t. Who’s likely to win the case and what does it mean for the crypto industry as a whole? Show highlights: why Grayscale filed the lawsuit against the SEC why Grayscale believes that a bitcoin futures ETF is essentially the same as a spot ETF what the SEC disagrees why the judges pushed back against the SEC’s arguments why Elliott changed his mind about who will win the case after the hearing what would happen if Grayscale ends up winning the lawsuit and whether the SEC could go back on its previous approvals whether other companies applying for a bitcoin spot ETF would benefit from Grayscale winning the case whether this case could have an impact on the jurisdictional battle between the SEC and the CFTC why Elliott is keeping an eye on other cases such as Ripple, Terraform Labs, and insider trading at Coinbase Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Previous coverage of Unchained on Grayscale and GBTC: Why Grayscale Is Suing the SEC Over Its Denial of a Bitcoin ETF $5 Billion in AUM: Why Growth at Grayscale Exploded in the Last Quarter Bitwise's Latest Plans to Get a Bitcoin ETF Approved DCG's Dilemma: Should It Sell Its GBTC Holdings to Repay Gemini? Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy? ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis Guest Elliott Stein, Senior Litigation Analyst for the Financials Sector at Bloomberg Intelligence Twitter Links CoinDesk: Judges Express Skepticism of SEC Arguments in Grayscale Bitcoin ETF Hearing A Dozen Reasons Why the SEC Should Have Approved Grayscale's Spot Bitcoin ETF Axios: Judges question SEC rejection of Grayscale's spot bitcoin ETF Reuters: US court questions SEC's rejection of Grayscale's bitcoin fund proposal Don Verrilli Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

LayerZero launched a testnet bridge that allows users to swap mainnet ETH for Goerli ETH (GoETH), which led to a sudden emergence of a liquid market for GoETH tokens. This was a hugely controversial decision, as many in the Ethereum community believe that testnet tokens should remain free. At ETH Denver, Laura moderated a panel discussion about this hot topic with Bryan Pellegrino, cofounder and CEO of LayerZero Labs, Greg Markou, founder of Chainsafe and Matt Garnett, software engineer for the Ethereum Foundation. Show highlights: why LazerZero launched a testnet bridge for Goerli ETH (GoETH) the three reasons why Greg is opposed to Goerli ETH having a price why Bryan believes it is impossible for a permissionless testnet to have free tokens the three types of constituencies that use testnets whether the Sepolia testnet solves the issues with Goerli the upcoming Holli testnet and the problems it aims to solve how to create a permissionless testnet that takes into account the needs of developers from all over the world whether LayerZero’s move will create more problems in the future Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com FTSE Halborn Panel Bryan Pellegrino, cofounder and CEO of LayerZero Labs. Greg Markou, founder of Chainsafe Matt Garnett, software engineer for the Ethereum Foundation Links: Unchained: Goerli Testnet ETH Is Now Being Monetized CoinDesk: Start of the End? Testnet Goerli Ether Spikes to $1.60 as Traders Jump on Opportunity Meant for Developers LayerZero blog post: Public Goods by LayerZero. Alchemy: What is the Sepolia testnet? Ethereum (ETH) Developer Announces Plan To Launch New ‘Holli’ Testnet Later This Year Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices