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Day seven of Sam Bankman-Fried’s criminal trial saw the defense team unable to discredit Caroline Ellison, despite multiple attempts. The defense's questions often seemed aimless, failing to draw any substantial conclusions. Ellison remained steadfast, revealing that SBF had plans to buy Telegram around the time Alameda "borrowed" $14 billion of FTX customer money. Defense attorney Mark Cohen tried to portray Ellison as the one in charge of Alameda, but she clarified that SBF was the ultimate decision-maker. Ellison also disclosed that she had considered resigning from Alameda but was persuaded by SBF to stay, emphasizing his control over the firm. The day continued with testimony from Christian Drappi, a former Alameda employee, who corroborated Ellison's account. Zac Prince, founder of the bankrupt crypto lending firm BlockFi, briefly took the stand, setting the stage for his testimony to continue the next day. Catch up on Unchained’s previous coverage: Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here’s Everything That Happened So Far SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison? SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life' Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors? Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and chop it up about the latest news. This week, the crew is joined by Gabriel Shapiro, general counsel at Delphi Labs, to talk about the key points in the criminal trial of Sam Bankman-Fried and his lackluster defense strategy so far. They also delve into Michael Lewis’ book and his depictions of SBF’s “lore and backstory,” and discuss how SBF’s “quirks of character” may have actually enticed investors. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: How Haseeb's previous comments on Sam Bankman-Fried’s intentions "didn't age well" after developments in the trial Why Gabriel believes that SBF is a "sociopath" and should have taken a plea deal if offered Shortcomings in the defense’s strategy and why Gabriel believes they’re “grasping at straws” How the fake numbers of FTX insurance fund highlight the weaknesses of a centralized exchange Why Matt Huang, cofounder of VC firm Paradigm, agreed to testify in such a high-profile trial, and why Haseeb as a VC himself wouldn't have done it Whether SBF understood the technical components of crypto and why he sounded like ChatGPT in his responses, according to Tarun Whether VCs are to blame for investing in FTX or what lessons VCs need to take away from the SBF debacle. The differences and similarities between SBF and Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest: Gabriel Shapiro, General counsel of Delphi Labs Previous appearances on Unchained: Are DAOs Strong Enough to Survive the Regulators? What Does Mango Markets Exploiter Avi Eisenberg’s Arrest in Puerto Rico Mean for DeFi? Disclosures Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried: Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here's Everything That Happened So Far SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF’s Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison? SBF’s Lawyers Could Be Annoying the Judge. How Might That Impact the Trial? Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors? Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect FTX Used a Fake Number to Beef Up Its Insurance Fund: Gary Wang Previous coverage of the trial elsewhere: NYT: What FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried and J.P. Morgan Have in Common Forbes: Sam Bankman-Fried Knew Plenty About His Alameda Research Hedge Fund–And Sent Details To Forbes Just Months Ago Tarun's tweet on insurance funds being onchain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Day 6 of the SBF trial was marked by emotional testimony from Caroline Ellison, who shed tears as she detailed the financial chaos within Alameda and FTX. She also recounted dramatic incidents such as an alleged bribe by Alameda to a Chinese government official, creating accounts using the IDs of Thai prostitutes, and an attempt to raise money by selling FTX shares to a Saudi prince. Ellison discussed the financial turmoil that began with the crypto market crash and how it led to desperate actions, allegedly directed by SBF. She revealed the manipulation of balance sheets, the use of FTX customer funds for risky investments, and the ethical compromises made to keep Alameda afloat. The day also delved into the secretive culture within Alameda and FTX, highlighting the use of disappearing messages on Signal for sensitive discussions, and what was really happening behind the scenes as FTX began to implode. Catch up on Unchained’s previous coverage: Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here’s Everything That Happened So Far SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison? Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors? Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Caroline Ellison, former CEO of Alameda Research and SBF's ex-partner, took the stand to reveal the alleged financial mismanagement at Alameda and FTX, which she claimed was at Bankman-Fried’s direction. The cross examination of Gary Wang finally began to show how SBF’s lawyers plan to defend him, though Wang largely appeared to be a yes man who simply trusted and followed his friend and co-founder. Ellison's revelations included Alameda's hidden trading of FTT to prop up its price, her warnings to SBF about Alameda’s inability to pay back its lenders if he put billions more into venture investments, and his views on risk and “expected value.” For instance, she claimed he said if, with a coin toss came up tails and would mean Earth’s destruction, he would toss the coin if there it was twice as likely that it would more than double prosperity on Earth. However, her testimony seemed designed to preemptively rebut the defense’s potential argument that Alameda needed to borrow customer funds because she had not hedged. Catch up on Unchained’s previous coverage: Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here’s Everything That Happened So Far SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors? Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The first week of the criminal trial of former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried has come to a close, with his former friends and FTX colleagues Adam Yedidia and Gary Wang delivering powerful testimonies that are forming the foundations for the prosecution’s arguments — arguments that the defense may have a difficult time surmounting. Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel, and Brian Klein, partner at Waymaker, discuss Alameda’s special privileges coded into the FTX software, the reason why a scorched FTX customer may have been chosen as the first witness, and why upcoming key witnesses are going to be a “real problem” for the defense. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: What we learned about the prosecution and defenses strategies after the first week of the trial How the jury being mostly professionals may impact deliberations Why Brian believes someone “out of the mainstream” would make an ideal juror for the defense Why Sam believes the defense’s opening was stronger than the prosecution’s Which arguments may be the most difficult for Sam Bankman-Fried's lawyers to defend Why the defense’s “building a plane as you’re flying” analogy may come back to hurt them in closing Why Sam believes the order of the witness testimony so far is helping the prosecution build the foundation of its case Whether Adam Yedidia’s testimony was effective at establishing him as a credible witness Whether the fact that some witnesses are cooperating to avoid jail time will impact the jury’s decision What Gary Wang, former CTO of FTX, revealed about Alameda's special privileges coded into FTX software and how it wasn’t an “oversight” Whether Judge Kaplan is growing impatient with the defense Whether the prosecution's objections were sustained reasonably by Judge Kaplan Why upcoming insider witnesses pose a “real problem” to the defense Why it's "not even an open question" that the defense team will appeal if they lose the case Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com LayerZero Popcorn Network Guest: Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel. Previous appearance on Unchained: SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case Brian Klein, partner at Waymaker Previous appearance on Unchained: SBF Behind Bars: Why Revoked Bail Is a Big Deal for Crypto’s Biggest Trial Links Previous coverage by Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried: Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here's Everything That Happened So Far SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors? Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura reports on the testimony of Gary Wang on Thursday, who described Alameda’s special privileges that were programmed into FTX’s code as early as July 2019, a few months after the exchange launched. These privileges included Alameda’s ability to have a negative balance on its FTX account. This meant that Alameda was able to transfer and withdraw more funds than it had, essentially “borrowing from the exchange.” Those funds, Wang said, belonged to FTX customers, and at the time that FTX declared bankruptcy, Alameda had borrowed $8 billion from the exchange. Wang said Alameda had a $65 billion line of credit — far higher than any other customer on the exchange. He also revealed details about FTT, the cryptocurrency that FTX had created, and the concerns that were raised about how the tokens were allegedly used to boost Alameda’s balance on the site. If you need to catch up, don’t miss our recent coverage on the trial: SBF Trial, Day 3: Long-Time Friend Says, ‘FTX Defrauded All of Its Customers’ SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ: Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ His Way to ‘Wealth, Power, and Influence’ SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The blockbuster trial of Sam Bankman-Fried wrapped up its third day, with multiple witnesses, including former FTX software developer Adam Yedidia, Paradigm co-founder Matt Huang, and FTX cofounder Gary Wang, taking the witness stand. Joshua Ashley Klayman, Senior Counsel, U.S. Head of FinTech and Head of Blockchain & Digital Assets at Linklaters, discusses the main takeaways from the trial so far, the surprising testimonies given by former close associates of SBF, and how the prosecution and defense plan to paint a picture of who SBF is to the jury. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: What Josh's biggest takeaways from the trial are so far Why Josh felt that the jury had “a lot to take in” in order to understand the basics of the case Whether the different backgrounds of the jury will affect the outcome of the trial Why the prosecution is arguing that regardless of the technical aspects of the case, the key issue is fraud How the defense plans to argue that SBF did not intend to defraud investors Why the selection of the first witness, a former FTX customer, is an "interesting" choice, according to Josh What is the [email protected] account and how it contributed to FTX’s undoing How they discovered the $8 billion hole in the FTX balance sheet and SBF's reaction at the time What an email revealed about the lack of corporate governance in FTX and Alameda Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Hedera Popcorn Network Guest Joshua Ashley Klayman, Senior Counsel, U.S. Head of FinTech and Head of Blockchain & Digital Assets at Linklaters Previous appearances on Unchained: Gary Gensler vs. Crypto: What Will the SEC Attack Next? How Crypto And Blockchain Technology Should Be Regulated Links Previous coverage by Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried: SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura reports on the testimony of three witnesses on Thursday, including one who declared that “FTX defrauded all of its customers” and another stating that he had committed financial crimes at the direction of Sam Bankman-Fried. Former FTX software developer Adam Yedidia, Paradigm co-founder Matt Huang, and FTX and Alameda co-founder Gary Wang filled in the details of different aspects of FTX and Alameda’s business. Huang’s testimony detailed how Paradigm expressed concern about FTX’s lack of corporate controls and how the company was “owned and controlled by Sam.” Wang has only started his testimony but has already said he implemented advantages for Alameda into FTX’s code at Bankman-Fried’s direction. Yedidia’s account had the most emotional details, describing how he had a strong belief in the company, to the point where, when employees began leaving FTX, he had messaged Bankman-Fried that he loved him and wasn’t going anywhere, but that it flipped once he realized “FTX defrauded all of its customers.” Find out what new information caused him to have a change of heart in this episode. If you need to catch up, don’t miss our recent coverage on the trial: SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ: Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ His Way to ‘Wealth, Power, and Influence’ SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura reports on the opening statements of the prosecution and defense, which painted a portrait of Sam Bankman-Fried as power-hungry and discussed how he allegedly managed to fumble customer funds. Next witnesses are set to include Matt Huang, cofounder and managing partner at crypto VC firm Paradigm, and Gary Wang, former CTO of FTX. Tune in to get the latest updates and insights on a case that could have far-reaching implications for the crypto industry. If you need to catch up, don’t miss our recent coverage on the trial: SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, they discuss the wildest claims in Michael Lewis’ new book on Sam Bankman-Fried, debate whether SBF’s effective altruism was ever genuine, and whether Ethereum should enshrine more features onto its protocol. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Michael Lewis’ interview on “60 Minutes” and the wildest claims in his new book Whether SBF would have paid Donald Trump $5 billion not to run for president Why Lewis characterizing FTX’s downfall as a bank run is misleading Whether FTX executives, in the moment of the collapse, fled to their parents’ homes Was SBF genuine in his belief in effective altruism or was it clever branding Whether we will still be talking about the SBF trial years down the line The debate on whether Ethereum should enshrine more features onto its core protocol Whether Lido poses a centralization risk to the Ethereum ecosystem Predictions on how the SBF trial will play out and whether SBF has a trick up his sleeve Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links SBF’s trial: Unchained: Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect CBS: Rise, fall of Sam Bankman-Fried, FTX at center of Michael Lewis' new book | 60 Minutes Protocol enshrinement: Unchained: Ethereum’s Vitalik Buterin Warns of Risks in Lido and Rocket Pool Some Ethereum Staking Services Commit to 22% Self-Limit of Validators Others: Cryptoslate: Terra's Do Kwon and Daniel Shin conspired to falsify transactions, chat logs show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura reports on a noticeably composed Bankman-Fried and delves into the jury de-selection process, revealing potential jurors with surprising crypto ties. The government's stance on a plea deal is finally clarified, and a long list of potential witnesses from the crypto world is unveiled. Tune in to get the latest updates and insights on a case that could have far-reaching implications for the crypto industry. If you need to catch up, don’t miss our recent coverage on the trial: Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The high-stakes trial of Sam Bankman-Fried is set to begin on October 3, and the FTX founder and former CEO will have to answer for his role in the cryptocurrency exchange’s downfall, which led to billions in losses. Both the prosecution and defense are currently preparing for what is set to be a significant milestone for the crypto industry. Kayvan Sadeghi, partner at Jenner & Block and Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel, discuss the differences between a civil and criminal trial, what the jury selection process might look like, and what arguments the prosecution and defense might use to support their cases. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: The difference between a civil and criminal trial and why it's difficult for the defense to prepare while Sam Bankman-Fried is in jail Whether SBF was offered a plea deal and if so, why he didn't take it What the process of vetting jurors looks like and what both sides are looking for What a pre-opening jury charge is and why Judge Lewis A. Kaplan might choose to use it The importance of intent when it comes to SBF’s charges The pros and cons of the defense using the argument that the FTX founder was receiving poor legal advice What charges SBF is facing and whether the defense or prosecution has the upper hand How the opening statements of both the prosecution and the defense might play out Whether SBF will be put on the stand and why that could be a "dangerous" move, according to Sam How the defense could respond to testimony from key witnesses like Caroline Ellison or Gary Wang How Judge Kaplan being a "tough sentencer" could impact SBF’s jail sentence, according to Sam Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com LayerZero Popcorn Network Guests: Kayvan Sadeghi, partner and co-chair of Fintech & Crypto Assets at Jenner & Block Previous appearance on Unchained: Why the SEC vs. Ripple Order Is Now About 2 Things: Coinbase and Congress Samson Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel. Links Previous coverage from Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out Why FTX Might Try to Claw Back Funds From Retail Customers How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Details of the trial: Unchained: FTX: The Exchange That Brought Down the Industry CoinDesk: Here's the Sam Bankman-Fried Trial Schedule The SBF Trial: How Did We Get Here? Here’s How FTX Founder Sam Bankman-Fried’s Trial May Play Out Forbes: Sam Bankman-Fried Could Face 'Very Long Sentence,' Judge Says Before Denying Release SBF’s defense team: Unchained: Sam-Bankman-Fried Files New Request for Temporary Release Before Trial CoinDesk: U.S. Department of Justice Opposes Sam Bankman-Fried's Latest Move for 'Temporary Release' Key witnesses: Unchained: SBF’s Expert Witnesses Barred From Testifying at Trial Reuters: Who is Caroline Ellison, a key witness set to testify against Sam Bankman-Fried? NYT: Prosecutors Detail Evidence Against Sam Bankman-Fried - The New York Times CoinDesk: All of Sam Bankman-Fried's Proposed Expert Witnesses Should Be Barred From Testifying: DOJ Judge Blocks Sam Bankman-Fried's Proposed Witnesses From Testifying Business Insider: Sam Bankman-Fried is being sent to jail after a judge revoked his bail over alleged witness tampering Jury selection: CoinDesk: Sam Bankman-Fried Can Ask DOJ Witnesses About Drug Use Cointelegraph: Sam Bankman-Fried’s political donations can be surfaced in trial, rules judge Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, the group sits down to discuss why U.S. crypto conferences are quieter than they have been in the past, which DeFi metrics are still useful for measuring a changing market, and advice for NFT founders on how to continue to innovate. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Why Tarun says that the U.S. is “dead as a doorknob” for crypto for crypto conferences Main takeaways from recent crypto conferences such as Token2049 in Singapore and Permissionless in Austin How the metrics in DeFi keep changing, and which ones still have merit What are “chart crimes” and the gang's advice for entrepreneurs pitching to VCs Why Haseeb doesn't think that token economics are as useful as everyone thinks The Stoner Cat settlement with the SEC and how it impacts the broader conversation about whether NFTs are securities Legal drama between the co-founders of the Milady NFT project Advice for NFT founders on how to achieve success in a changing market Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links NFTs Unchained: Mila Kunis’ Stoner Cats NFT Project Pays $1 Million to Settle SEC Charges Milady NFT Founder Says Rogue Developer Embezzled $1 Million from Treasury PFP NFTs: What Are They & Why Are They So Popular? Generative Art NFTs: What Are They & Why Are They So Popular? SEC: Are NFTs Securities? Token2049: Haseeb’s panel on alt L1s DeFi and metrics: Unchained: What Is TVL in DeFi? A Guide to Total Value Locked Can DeFi Allow You To Be Your Own Bank? How to Invest in DeFi: 4 Ways You Can Explore Today Yield Farming: What Is It & How Does It Work? Regulation Unchained: U.S. House Lawmakers Urge SEC's Gensler to Approve Spot Bitcoin ETFs The Block: Gensler takes heat from lawmakers over his approach to regulating crypto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The trial of Sam Bankman-Fried, the founder and former CEO of bankrupt cryptocurrency exchange FTX, is set to begin on October 3. The 31-year-old is accused of committing wire fraud and conspiracy to commit other types of fraud, in relation to the dramatic collapse of his crypto empire last year, which led to billions in losses. Nik De, CoinDesk's managing editor for global policy and regulation, discusses the importance of jury selection, the potential testimony of key witnesses, and how many years Bankman-Fried may face if he is found guilty. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Why SBF's lawyers keep requesting the FTX founder be released Why the jury selection is so important and how long it could take Why the DOJ opposed the proposed questions for the jury Why the Judge agreed with the DOJ in blocking some of the witnesses proposed by the defense team How the defense team may try to discredit some of the proposed witnesses Whether the argument of SBF receiving “poor legal advice” holds any ground What role the political donations made by SBF may play in the trial How many years SBF could face if he were to be found guilty Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Hedera Toku Guest Nik De, CoinDesk's managing editor for global policy and regulation Previous appearances on Unchained: How SEC Chair Gary Gensler's Views on Crypto Have Changed Since His MIT Days Why the Ooki DAO Case Could Hurt Participation in DAOs Links Previous coverage from Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: Why FTX Might Try to Claw Back Funds From Retail Customers The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning? How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC SBF’s defense team motions: Judge Denies Sam Bankman-Fried’s Request for Temporary Release U.S. Department of Justice Opposes Sam Bankman-Fried's Latest Move for 'Temporary Release' Sam Bankman-Fried Can Use an 'Air-Gapped' Laptop in Court, Judge Rules Judge Blocks Sam Bankman-Fried's Proposed Witnesses From Testifying Key witnesses: SBF’s Expert Witnesses Barred From Testifying at Trial Who is Caroline Ellison, a key witness set to testify against Sam Bankman-Fried? All of Sam Bankman-Fried's Proposed Expert Witnesses Should Be Barred From Testifying: DOJ Sam Bankman-Fried is being sent to jail after a judge revoked his bail over alleged witness tampering Jury selection: Sam Bankman-Fried Can Ask DOJ Witnesses About Drug Use Sam Bankman-Fried’s political donations can be surfaced in trial, rules judge Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bitcoin Ordinals have exploded in popularity since their launch by developer Casey Rodarmor in January, changing the NFT game with millions of inscriptions to date. But what comes next for Bitcoin-based digital artifacts? Danny Yang and Bill Tai, cofounders of Metagood and creators of NFT collection OnChainMonkey, discuss why they will move OnChainMonkey from Ethereum to Bitcoin, Rodarmor’s proposal to change the Ordinals inscription numbering system, and why they believe more creators should consider moving to Bitcoin. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: How the idea for Metagood came up What is give-to-earn and how it is used to reward OnChainMonkey holders The differences between Ethereum versus Bitcoin when it comes to digital assets The creative potential of Bitcoin Ordinals Why OnChainMonkey will move from Ethereum to Bitcoin Thoughts on Casey Rodarmor’s Bitcoin Ordinals proposal to change the inscription numbering system What are recursive inscriptions How to convince NFT creators to leave other blockchains for Bitcoin Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation LayerZero Toku Guest: Bill Tai, cofounder of Metagood and creator of OnChainMonkey Previous appearances on Unchained: https://unchainedcrypto.com/maitai-globals-bill-tai-on-why-blockchain-is-the-6th-wave-of-technology/ Danny Yang, cofounder of Metagood and creator of OnChainMonkey Links Unchained: MaiTai Global’s Bill Tai On Why Blockchain Is The 6th Wave Of Technology Bitcoin Ordinals Creators Propose Changing Inscriptions Numbering What Are BRC-20 Tokens? A Brief Introduction Was Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Pro-NFTs? Bitcoin Ordinals Inscriptions Surge Past 2.7 Million How to Create a Bitcoin Ordinal Elsewhere: Bitcoin Ordinals Trading Is Down Bad—But Just How Bad? A New Frontier for Bitcoin? Recursive Inscriptions Explained ‘NFTs will win on Bitcoin’ — OnChainMonkey NFT collection ditches Ethereum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As lawsuits continue to pile up in the FTX saga, FTX chief John Ray III is focused on clawing back funds from former affiliates to pay back creditors. But how might that play out in court? Founder of 117 Partners Thomas Braziel, who specializes in the trading of bankruptcy claims, explains the different paths Ray may choose to go down and the potential outcomes of these cases. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: The chances of FTX winning in court against Sam Bankman-Fried’s parents The case against Barbara Fried and Joseph Bankman Whether civil cases could turn into criminal ones Whether bankruptcy proceedings and the criminal case against Sam Bankman-Fried are a coordinated effort What retail clawbacks are and the likelihood that FTX will pursue them Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Toku Guest Thomas Braziel, founder of 117 Partners Previous appearances on Unchained: Will FTX Reboot? Here’s John Ray’s Internal Deadline for Making a Decision Will FTX Customers Ever Recover Their Assets? Two Insolvency Experts Weigh In Will Celsius Survive the Bankruptcy Process? How Crypto Bankruptcy Claims Buyers Will Profit From the Collapse of FTX Links Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning? How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Unchained: New Suit Claims That FTX Kept Its Fraud All in the Family Stanford University Will Return $5.5 Million to FTX FTX Sues SBF’s Parents to Claw Back Misappropriated Funds: Report Full text of the FTX lawsuit against Bankman and Fried CoinDesk: Sam Bankman-Fried’s Dad Thought His Son Wasn’t Paying Him Enough, So He Got Mom Involved Bloomberg: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Elite Parents Enabled His Crypto Empire The Verge: The best stuff Sam Bankman-Fried’s parents bought using FTX money Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders chop it up about the latest news. This week, Haseeb Qureshi and Tom Schmidt speak to Will Warren, cofounder of 0x Labs, to discuss why the CFTC issued them a Wells Notice, how they responded to regulatory scrutiny, and how other countries may offer a blueprint for crypto regulation. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why the CFTC issued a Wells Notice to 0x how a decentralized application addresses the issue of geolocalization of users how the team at 0x worked together with the CFTC to avoid violating the Commodity Exchange Act (CEA) again what are the implications of the settlement and who's liable for offering services why it's so hard for crypto projects to follow the rules without clear regulatory guidance why Haseeb says that the SEC wants this industry to “not exist” how lack of regulatory clarity may be stunting US innovation whether there's a conflict of interest between the companies building protocols and the protocols themselves Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Guest Will Warren, cofounder of 0x Labs Disclosures Links Unchained: UniswapX Launches With MEV Protection and Gas Free Swaps CFTC Charges Three DeFi Protocols With Violating AML Rules, Operating Without Licenses Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Zeke Faux, author of 'Number Go Up,' shares his findings after making a deep dive into the world of crypto. From skepticism to a full-blown investigation, Faux recounts his journey that led him to the heart of crypto, meeting some of the most eccentric characters in the industry. As a Bloomberg investigative reporter, Faux brings a critical eye to the crypto sphere, unearthing the bizarre, the risky, and the downright astonishing facets of what the crypto community calls a financial revolution. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what the book 'Number Go Up' is about Zeke's background as an investigative reporter for Bloomberg whether Zeke is skeptical about crypto why Zeke thought it was a big deal to investigate Tether, the issuer of USDT whether he had a conclusion on the fact that he couldn't find anything big about Tether why Zeke says that Sam Bankman-Fried had a sloppy approach to risk management why Zeke believes that SBF did not give so much money to charity even though he's an effective altruist how projects like STEPN and Axie Infinity are 'clearly not the future of finance,' according to Zeke how SBF had such an open relationship with the media that helped him when the FTX collapse happened what Zeke found out investigating pig butchering scams in Cambodia how Zeke’s attempt to buy a Mutant Ape to get into an Ape Fest in New York City taught him about crypto’s bad user experience Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Toku LayerZero Guest: Zeke Faux, author of ‘Number Go Up’ Bloomberg: 11 Hours With Sam Bankman-Fried: Inside the Bahamian Penthouse After FTX’s Fall Links Tether Unchained: Is Tether a Fraud? Its Bank Says It's Not Tether, the Multibillion-Dollar Stablecoin at the Heart of the Crypto Ecosystem Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX Unchained: Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC SBF Behind Bars: Why Revoked Bail Is a Big Deal for Crypto’s Biggest Trial Pig butchering scams Unchained: How This Prosecutor Is Spearheading the Fight Against Crypto ‘Pig Butchering’ Scams Crypto in developing countries Bitcoin in El Salvador: Why Would Cypherpunks Support Government-Mandated Bitcoin Adoption? Anita Posch on Why ‘Bitcoin Is a Tool for Freedom’ – Especially in Africa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the wake of FTX’s collapse, Binance – already the biggest exchange in the world by a large margin – has continued to grow. But a series of challenges, including billions of dollars worth of customer outflows, the winding down of its stablecoin BUSD and the SEC and CFTC lawsuits related to its U.S. operations have challenged its market dominance. Steven Ehrlich, director of research at Forbes Crypto, joins the show to discuss how Binance has been dealing with a deluge of bad news and how it plans to forge a path forward. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how the collapse of FTX impacted Binance and its market dominance how Binance has been losing market share over the past few months why Steven believes that Binance.US is in a "very tenuous situation" whether Binance is feeling stronger now that the SEC experienced a partial loss in the Ripple case the consequences of consumers losing trust in Binance, according to Steven the speculation around the recently filed sealed motion filed by the SEC whether the theory that Binance is the next FTX has some merits how Binance.US needs to recuperate some market volume to increase its revenue Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Toku Guest Steven Ehrlich, director of research at Forbes Crypto Links WSJ: Binance, the Biggest Player in Crypto, Is Facing Legal Risks Over Russia More Binance Executives Leave, Including Some Overseeing Russia How the Binance CEO Operates: Weigh the Risk, Calculate the Reward What Is Happening With Binance? Binance Lays Off Over 1,000 Employees Some Binance.US Crypto Trading Was a Mirage, the SEC Alleges Binance.US Legal, Risk Executives Leave the Crypto Exchange Reuters: Crypto exchange Binance hit by executive exodus Paxos receives U.S. SEC notice over Binance's stablecoin 'BUSD' Binance CEO's trading firm received $11 billion via client deposit company, SEC says The Block: Binance.US can't grow until CZ sells stake, fixes regulatory issues: sources Binance to end support for BUSD, encourages conversion to FDUSD Mastercard, Binance end crypto card partnership in four countries Binance withdraws crypto license application in Germany CoinDesk: SEC's Secret Binance Court Filing Has Observers Bracing for Bad News John Reed Stark’s post on X CFTC: CFTC Charges Binance and Its Founder, Changpeng Zhao, with Willful Evasion of Federal Law and Operating an Illegal Digital Asset Derivatives Exchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s been a busy year for USDC issuer Circle, with several new product launches and partnerships, a crypto banking crisis to contend with, the entry of PayPal into the stablecoin business, and plenty of new global regulatory developments, including a bill in the U.S. now making its way through Congress. Circle co-founder and CEO Jeremy Allaire joins Unchained for an in-depth discussion on the reasons behind Coinbase’s investment in Circle, how Circle has emerged stronger from the banking crisis, what he thinks of PYUSD, what he likes and doesn’t like about the current U.S. stablecoin bill, and his thoughts on what the final bill will look like. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Circle and Coinbase created the Center Consortium and why Coinbase acquired a stake in Circle whether Circle is aiming to be acquired or become a public company, and why Jeremy is pursuing a "multi-decade" strategy why Circle partnered with MercadoLibre and the stablecoin usage in Latin America [may need to cut if embargo does not stick] how the company has been supporting developers to build applications why Circle is launching native USDC on so many new blockchains what the purpose of cross-chain transfer protocol (CCTP) is and what the big problems with bridges are how Circle responded to Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse and why the world began to feel that "it's not safe to be exposed to the US" Jeremy's thoughts on the launch of PayPal's stablecoin, PYUSD why having stablecoin legislation is a "national priority," according to Jeremy why Jeremy is a proponent of a fully reserved banking system why he thinks the US needs to "aggressively" take action to preserve the global reserve currency status of the US dollar how China’s national digital currency is likely to develop how crypto can provide a better way of providing identity without giving up privacy why blockchain technology is much more than just a financial regulatory matter Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Toku LayerZero Guest: Jeremy Allaire, cofounder, Chairman and CEO of Circle Previous appearances of Jeremy on Unchained: Crypto on Every Corner: Driving Adoption With Jeremy Allaire and Meltem Demirors Circle’s Jeremy Allaire and Sean Neville on Why Crypto Will Be Bigger Than the Web Jeremy Allaire on Why the US Government Needs a New Category for Digital Assets Links Unchained: Coinbase Acquires Equity Stake in Circle Amid USDC Updates and Market Challenges Will PayPal’s PYUSD Steal Market Share From Tether and Circle? The Fall of SVB: What Happened and How It Affects Crypto CoinDesk: U.S. Stablecoin Bill Takes Big Step Despite Fight From Democrats, White House Circle Seeks to Make Crypto Payments Easier With New 'Programmable Wallets' Written Statement of Jeremy Allaire Before the United States House Committee on Financial Services, “The Future of Digital Assets: Providing Clarity for the Digital Asset Ecosystem” South China Morning Post: Head of crypto firm Circle accepts ban in mainland China, but sees role for yuan-backed stablecoins TechCrunch: Solana Pay integrates plug-in with Shopify for USDC payments Decrypt: News Explorer — Circle Partners With Mercado Libre to Bring USDC to Chile Jeremy’s comments on the launch of PYUSD Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Earlier this week, Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin and four co-authors published a paper describing a smart contract protocol called privacy pools that would enable crypto users to associate their funds with those being used for legitimate purposes versus those being used in criminal activity such as hacks or money laundering. The protocol addresses one of the main shortcomings of coin mixer Tornado Cash, which has been sanctioned by the U.S. government. Chainalysis chief scientist Jacob Illum, one of those co-authors, discusses the impetus for the paper, the technology behind privacy pools and how they would work in practice, who would provide some of the necessary organization to operate the pools, and some of the early criticisms of the paper. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what the current state of crypto privacy is and what the motivation was to write this paper what privacy pools are and how they work how zero-knowledge proofs are the key technology behind privacy pools what the role of association set providers is in making this new technology work what would happen in different potential scenarios, such as a "bad address" being discovered after a transaction has been made how the protocol would protect the privacy and identity of the users how law enforcement, credit score agencies and other organizations could have "special viewing privileges" of transactions, according to Jacob how the community has been reacting to the recently published paper Jacob’s response to criticisms the paper has received from industry players why Chainalysis participated in the paper given that many people see them as 'anti-privacy' Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Toku Guest Jacob Illum, chief scientist at Chainalysis Links Unchained: Tornado Cash Cofounder Arrested, Another Sanctioned by U.S. Government CoinDesk: Crypto-Mixing Service Tornado Cash Blacklisted by US Treasury Blockchain Privacy and Regulatory Compliance: Towards a Practical Equilibrium Matt Corallo’s tweet Crypto lawyer Preston Byrne’s tweet Previous coverage of Unchained on Tornado Cash: The Chopping Block: 'Code Is Law' Is 'Obviously Not How Anything Works Ever' The Chopping Block: Why DeFi May Be Over-Complying With Tornado Cash Sanctions Preston Van Loon on Ethereum’s Merge and His Lawsuit Against TreasuryGiven the Sanctions on Tornado Cash, Is Ethereum Censorship Resistant? The Chopping Block: Did OFAC Overstep by Sanctioning Tornado Cash? Tornado Cash Sanctioned. Did the Government Overstep Its Bounds? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, the group sits down with Circle CEO Jeremy Allaire to discuss how the USDC stablecoin issuer responded to the banking crisis that started at the end of 2022, what PayPal’s new stablecoin offering means for Circle and the rest of the industry, and whether central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) represent real competition for stablecoins. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how the collapse of FTX and other companies led to a de-banking crisis for the industry what the Circle Reserve Fund is how the banking crisis in early 2023 caused a "flight from safety" how regulatory clarity has improved in the aftermath of the banking crisis why Jeremy actually hopes PayPal's recently launched PYUSD is successful why Tarun believes Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) are one of the most "boring concepts" within the industry whether CBDCs pose a threat to businesses that issue stablecoins such as Circle Whether the status quo on stablecoins in the U.S. of knowing-your-customer on redemption and minting, but not on holding, is likely to continue. Hosts: Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest: Jeremy Allaire, CEO of Circle Disclosures Links The Chopping Block: Was Crypto Just Debanked? Will PayPal's PYUSD Steal Market Share From Tether and Circle? The Fall of SVB: What Happened and How It Affects Crypto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Friend.tech, a decentralized social media platform in which you can buy and sell “keys” in your friends on X (formerly known as Twitter) whose value can go up and down, has become a viral sensation, racking up as many as 100,000 users since launching on August 10. Should keys be considered securities and thus regulated by the SEC? How should gains and losses be taxed? And how private should users assume their communications and transactions on the platform are? Securities and banking law professor at George Mason Law School JW Verret, and tax partner and co-head of the Digital Assets and Blockchain Practice at Fried Frank Jason Schwartz, share their thoughts. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Friend.tech works and how the price of keys is determined how Friend.tech is different from many other past attempts at creating a decentralized social media platform whether the keys offered by Friend.tech could be deemed securities by the SEC what wrapped Friend.tech tokens are and whether these could be considered securities why the traditional approach to crypto taxation is bad for most Friend.tech taxpayers what the tax implications of Friend.tech airdrops are what Friend.tech users should assume about their privacy on the app what the future holds for Friend.tech Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Toku Guests: J.W. Verret, Associate Professor of Law at George Mason Law School Previous appearance on Unchained: Coinbase's Legal Action Against the SEC: How It Will Likely Unfold Jason Schwartz, tax partner and co-head of the Digital Assets and Blockchain Practice at Fried, Frank Friend.Tech Shows How Complicated Taxing Crypto Transactions Can Be by Jason Schwartz Links Unchained: Friend.tech Threatens to Penalize Users That Move to Copies or Forks Friend.tech Clarifies That Database of 100,000 Users Was Not Leaked What Is SocialFi? A Beginner’s Guide The ‘Howey Test’ and the Debate Over Crypto's Legal Status - Crypto Security vs Commodity CoinDesk: Friend.tech Attracted NBA Influencers. So Why Does Everyone Think Crypto’s Latest Trend Will Die? Decrypt: Friend.tech Renames Its Token—But Is It Even Legal? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week’s emphatic ruling in favor of Grayscale in its suit against the SEC to convert its massive bitcoin trust into an ETF generated plenty of hopium among the bitcoin faithful that a spot bitcoin ETF will get approved soon and open a flood of investment in bitcoin. What are the odds of that truly happening now, though, and if it did, how much additional money could wind up being invested in bitcoin as a result? Also, which companies’ applications would get approved first and how would the various products compete with one other? Bloomberg’s senior ETF analyst Eric Balchunas separates the hype from the reality in answering these questions and more. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Bloomberg increased the likelihood of a Bitcoin ETF being approved this year from 50% to 75% how the ruling exceeded the expectations of the legal analysts at Bloomberg why it's important that the ruling was a bipartisan decision whether, from a legal perspective, it's "weird" to deny a spot ETF but approve a futures one how a spot Bitcoin ETF would act as a bridge for Baby boomers to invest in crypto what the two most likely SEC responses to the ruling are what the likely timelines for an SEC spot Bitcoin ETF approval or disapproval would be whether Gary Gensler's agency will approve Ethereum futures ETFs in the U.S. why BlackRock's and Fidelity's ETFs are more likely to be approved first, according to Eric how the different ETFs would compete in the market why spot Bitcoin ETFs pose a serious threat to crypto exchanges' businesses Eric's estimate of how much additional money would pour into Bitcoin if a spot Bitcoin ETF is approved Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Toku Guest Eric Balchunas, Senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Links Previous coverage of Unchained on Grayscale and ETFs: Why Grayscale Is Suing the SEC Over Its Denial of a Bitcoin ETF Bitwise’s Latest Plans to Get a Bitcoin ETF Approved DCG’s Dilemma: Should It Sell Its GBTC Holdings to Repay Gemini? Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy? ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis Unchained: Grayscale Wins Lawsuit Against SEC Over Denial of Bid to Convert GBTC Into a Bitcoin ETF Bitcoin ETFs Explained: What Are They & How Do They Work? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra, chop it up about the latest news. This week, the gang goes in depth with Coinbase chief legal officer Paul Grewal to discuss Grayscale’s win in its court case against the SEC, Coinbase’s ongoing dust-up with the SEC, the onerous new crypto reporting regulations proposed by the U.S. Treasury, and the unsettling legal arguments behind the government crackdown on Tornado Cash. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Paul considers the court ruling in favor of Grayscale in its case against the SEC “nothing short of monumental” how much it actually matters if a spot Bitcoin ETF gets approved what options the SEC has now to pursue its position why BlackRock may have applied for its spot Bitcoin ETF when it did how the SEC 'changed its tune' and went from approving Coinbase’s S1 to suing them in a federal court, according to Paul how the collapse of FTX may have affected the SEC’s view of Coinbase why Coinbase has decided to wage its battle against the SEC so publicly when Paul expects a final decision to be made on the SEC’s lawsuit against Coinbase what Paul would do to regulate the digital asset industry if he were Gary Gensler whether the Treasury Department’s extensive proposed reporting regulations mean the crypto industry is “screwed” why Paul believes that the government’s crackdown on Tornado Cash is "dead wrong on the law" Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest: Paul Grewal, chief legal officer of Coinbase Previous appearances on Unchained: Just a Coincidence? Coinbase and Polygon Lawyers See Bad Omens in SEC Crackdown Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Disclosures Links Unchained: Grayscale Wins Lawsuit Against SEC Over Denial of Bid to Convert GBTC Into a Bitcoin ETF SEC Issues Coinbase a Wells Notice Tornado Cash Cofounder Arrested, Another Sanctioned by U.S. Government Bitcoin ETFs Explained: What Are They & How Do They Work? Coinbase: We asked the SEC for reasonable crypto rules for Americans. We got legal threats instead. TechCrunch: SEC settles first NFT enforcement case, fines LA media company $6M The Block: Treasury, IRS release proposed crypto tax reporting rules Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oracles are all about bringing important data (mostly asset prices) onto the blockchain. As such, they’re a key part of decentralized finance. But oracle provider Pyth sees room for improvement as it relates to being more real-time than crypto incumbents like Chainlink. Mike Cahill, the CEO of a brand new Pyth-linked firm called Douro Labs, joins the show to explain the opportunity he sees in building better oracles. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Pyth Network works and what the upcoming Perseus upgrade consists of Mike’s background in traditional finance why oracles are necessary in crypto and what the challenges are for oracle providers whether it’s hard for traditional institutions to participate in crypto protocols what the four types of oracle solutions are and how they differ how Pyth determines which data providers are allowed in the network and how that will change if it becomes more decentralized why Mike compares the scalability of Pyth to how Facebook grew why Douro Labs is being launched and why it will be solely focused on Pyth for now the factors driving Pyth’s growth, according to Mike Mike’s opinion on the current state of the crypto market and what the endgame is for Pyth Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guest: Mike Cahill, CEO at Douro Labs. Links What’s the Difference Between Pyth and Legacy Oracles Unchained: What Are Blockchain Oracles? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Wednesday, the U.S. Government indicted Tornado Cash developers Roman Storm and Roman Semenov for three counts of conspiracy involving a staggeringly large number: $1 billion in criminal proceeds. The U.S. Department of Justice attached North Korean hackers to a large portion of this sum, alleging that Tornado’s privacy tech enabled nefarious deeds. Amanda Tuminelli, chief legal officer of the DeFi Education Fund, joins the show to assess whether the U.S. Government got it right or is merely misguided in its understanding of how blockchain technology works. Should Tornado Cash devs be held to account for the criminal use of their software? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why the U.S. Government says the cofounders of Tornado Cash facilitated money laundering what the difference is between the concealment of potential proceeds of a crime versus the facilitation of that crime why Amanda believes that if the government understood the technology they wouldn’t be making these allegations whether the charges and the indictment will have implications for all software developers whether these allegations could mark the “end of DeFi” in the U.S. whether front-end applications in DeFi will need to mandate KYC checks for all users how the charges appear to contradict earlier FinCEN guidance how the DOJ will use the involvement of North Korean hackers to “make it look bad” for the jury what the future of the case will look like and whether there will be a motion to dismiss the indictment Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Guest Amanda Tuminelli, Chief Legal Officer at DeFi Education Fund Links Previous coverage of Unchained on Tornado Cash: The Chopping Block: 'Code Is Law' Is 'Obviously Not How Anything Works Ever' The Chopping Block: Why DeFi May Be Over-Complying With Tornado Cash Sanctions Preston Van Loon on Ethereum’s Merge and His Lawsuit Against Treasury Given the Sanctions on Tornado Cash, Is Ethereum Censorship Resistant? The Chopping Block: Did OFAC Overstep by Sanctioning Tornado Cash? Tornado Cash Sanctioned. Did the Government Overstep Its Bounds? Unchained: Tornado Cash Cofounder Arrested, Another Sanctioned by U.S. Government OFAC Updates Tornado Cash Sanctions To Include DAO Coin Center Sues the US Treasury Over Tornado Cash Sanctions Coin Center: New Tornado Cash indictments seem to run counter to FinCEN guidance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, Coinbase’s Jesse Pollak talks about the ambitious goals of Base, the new Optimism–based blockchain from the publicly traded crypto giant. With the viral success of Base-based Friend.Tech, Jesse discusses the Base team’s ambitious goals to onboard “a million builders, a billion users.” Is this the long-heralded path to scaling Ethereum? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Jesse says it’s still “day one” for Base the reason behind Base’s “one million developers, one billion users” slogan what the advantages of Base are compared to other layer 2 blockchains how Base accounts for the fact that it doesn’t have a token to incentivize developer activity how MEV bots represent a big part of the transactions on Base, especially with the emergence of Friend.Tech why Friend.Tech found early success despite being similar to previous efforts Jesse’s response to the fact that fault proofs are not live on any of the OP Stack chains how much of the revenue generated by Coinbase’s sequencer will be distributed to Optimism whether Base and Optimism Mainnet compete with each other how layer 2 chains are choosing different design paths and how that differentiates them Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest Jesse Pollak, lead contributor at Base Disclosures Links Unchained: Coinbase Launches a New Layer 2 on Ethereum CoinDesk: Social Platform Friend.tech Gains 100K Users in Days Even in Depths of a Bear Market TechCrunch: Friend.tech hype is skyrocketing, but will it actually reach the stars? Decrypt: Base Daily Transactions Outpace Ethereum on Friend.tech Frenzy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The height of the last bull run was when MakerDAO cofounder Rune Christensen felt most disillusioned by DeFi and DAOs. “I didn’t even see how Maker was going to survive,” Christensen tells Laura Shin in the latest episode of Unchained. Now Christensen is leading an effort to help DAOs escape their trough of disillusionment. He says the ambitious “Endgame Plan” for MakerDAO seeks to overcome “the central issue of voter apathy.” Will it work or are DAOs doomed to fail? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: the disillusionment that comes with the growth of DAOs and the need for a new approach Rune’s insights into the challenges that most DAOs face how Maker plans to implement alignment engineering through tools, gamification, and incentives what each phase of Maker’s “Endgame Plan” seeks to accomplish the strategy behind Maker’s rebranding, including the launch of new tokens while maintaining MKR and DAI the importance of governance boundaries in ensuring that participants follow the rules and contribute constructively the goal to reach a state of ossification and certainty, similar to Bitcoin the challenges of renaming tokens and the decision to keep the original brands why Rune believes that Phase 2 of the Endgame Plan will change the industry how SubDAOs will work to align incentives, improve the organization, and avoid ponzi schemes what Maker’s “Atlas” is and how it intends to set boundaries how Maker plans to use artificial intelligence the role of delegates in the DAO and how users choose them the difference between “dovish” and “hawkish” governance what the motivation was for launching the Spark lending protocol why the DAI Savings Rate (DSR) is not offered to American investors and Rune’s take on DeFi regulation why South Korea and Japan are the best crypto environments in the world, according to Rune whether Maker should be doing more to mitigate the influence of “whales,” given that Rune owns about 10% of the MKR supply Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guest: Rune Christensen, Cofounder of MakerDAO Previous appearances on Unchained: Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 1: How to Keep a Crypto-Collateralized Stablecoin Afloat Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 2: How Dai Stayed at $1 While ETH Crashed From $1,400 to $85 The Chopping Block: How to Manage MakerDAO, With Hasu and Rune Rune Christensen of MakerDao on Its $15 Million From Andreessen Horowitz Why It's so Hard to Keep Stablecoins Stable Links Unchained: MakerDAO: The DeFi Protocol That Lets You Be Your Own Banker MakerDAO’s Spark Protocol Blocks VPN Users MakerDAO to Raise DAI Yield Amid Lower Demand for Stablecoin Maker Founder Proposes Changing DAI Savings Rate to 5% The Defiant: Christensen Drops Radical Plan to Remake MakerDAO and Address 'Fundamental Problems', Christensen’s Twitter thread explaining Endgame Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lawyer Brian Klein joins the show to explain why Sam Bankman-Fried being locked up makes it “much tougher” for his legal team. This week, the judge presiding over the case said SBF went too far in attempting to intimidate key witnesses – chief among them former Alameda Research co-CEO (and ex-flame) Caroline Ellison. Will a jail cell change SBF’s defiant tune ahead of a hotly anticipated October trial date? Klein weighs in. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why the detention of SBF changes the dynamics of the trial preparation why Brian believes that the appeal to the detention won’t prevail whether these new conditions will lead to a request for a delay of the trial whether the fact that SBF is now in jail will make him more interested in a plea deal why both the prosecution and the defense have filed motions to limit allowable evidence and what that means for the trial what the short-term future of the trial looks like how long a trial like this would take to play out Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Guest Brian Klein, partner at Waymaker Links Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: Will FTX Reboot? Here’s John Ray’s Internal Deadline for Making a Decision The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning? How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Unchained: Sam Bankman-Fried Remanded to Jail Ahead of Fraud Trial Prosecutors Move to Include Caroline Ellison’s List of ‘Things Sam is Freaking Out About’ Into Evidence Against FTX Founder Prosecutors Allege SBF Used $100 Million User Funds for Campaign Contributions The New York Times: Prosecutors Detail Evidence Against Sam Bankman-Fried The Block: Former FTX exec Salame to plead the fifth about campaign finance schemes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, Wintermute CEO Evgeny Gaevoy joins the show to discuss market making when the crypto markets are quiet. Plus, an analysis of Base’s prospects following a surge of early interest. Also: Do you think bank fraud is going to run rampant in the AI era? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how prop shops like Wintermute view the current state of the crypto market how an organization like WIntermute interacts with DeFi platforms Tarun and Evgeny attempt to squash some past beef why Evgeny believes that some exchanges are “zombies” whether this is a good time to build an exchange and how Evgeny would do it how Base accomplished a big surge in its TVL and daily volumes whether it’s possible for Coinbase to balance the decentralized nature of building a blockchain with a desire to minimize scams how L2 sequencers have the power to censor transactions and the analogy to proof-of-authority chains how friend.tech, the social app built on Base, works and why it got so much attention why the crypto cognoscenti seemed to like friend.tech but hated BitClout, which is basically the same thing what is the role of biometrics in securing crypto wallets and assets whether bank fraud will increase or decrease because of advances in AI Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest: Evgeny Gaevoy, CEO of Wintermute Trading Previous appearance on Unchained: How Traders Are Thinking About the Merge — and a Potential ETHPoW Chain Disclosures Links Unchained: Coinbase Layer 2 Base Sees 80% Rise in Total Value Locked CoinDesk: Is Friend.tech a Friend or Foe? A Dive Into the New Social App Driving Millions in Trading Volume Halborn: Explained: The Wintermute Hack (September 2022) Forbes: Layer 2 Wars Heat Up As Coinbase Launches Base Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Educator Anita Posch has spent months on the ground in Africa onboarding new users into the world of Bitcoin. In the West, bitcoin may seem extraneous; but in her telling, bitcoin in Zimbabwe, Zambia, and other African countries is essential. “Bitcoin can be one of the solutions for people who are disempowered, who are outlawed, the misfits,” says Posch. “Bitcoin is for them because no one can take it away from you.” Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what Anita does for Bitcoin education and why she was inspired to do this how people in developing countries are constantly getting scammed how the Central Bank of Zimbabwe acts as an intermediary in business operations whether people in these countries use BTC or stablecoins for their day to day expenses what the differences are between the several Bitcoin communities around the world how in Zimbabwe people could get arrested for transacting in Bitcoin why Bitcoin is essential to human rights, according to Anita whether Bitcoin can help to tackle the issue of discrimination against women, particularly in finance why Anita is “very sad” about the launch of Worldcoin why she was against Bitcoin Ordinals in the first place and whether she has changed her mind what Anita’s new Bitcoin learning program aims to accomplish Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guest: Anita Posch, founder of Bitcoin for Fairness, author of (L)earn Bitcoin, and host of the Anita Posch show. Online Learning and Scholarship Program Website 45min Documentary: How Bitcoin Enforces Human Rights 13 min Keynote: Bitcoin empowers Africa and Africans empower Bitcoin Links Previous coverage of Unchained mentioned in the episode: Orb Outrage: Worldcoin Cofounder Defends Project Amid Backlash Why CoinFund Believes Worldcoin Could Become More Popular Than Bitcoin Bitcoin’s BRC-20 Mania: Is It Sustainable? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A major player has entered the stablecoin wars. PayPal went deeper down the crypto rabbithole this week with the launch of its Ethereum-based PYUSD. The dollar-backed stablecoin now puts PayPal in competition with the likes of Tether and Circle for quickly sending value around the world on-chain. José Fernández da Ponte, PayPal’s crypto SVP, joins the show to unpack how the fintech giant is building a long-term strategy around blockchain-based payments. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why PayPal decided to launch a stablecoin how long it will take for stablecoins to reach mainstream adoption and what the advantages of stablecoins are how PYUSD will differentiate from other giants in the stablecoin space such as USDT and USDC whether the U.S. stablecoin bill influenced the launch of PYUSD why stablecoins should be regulated at the state level whether PayPal plans to launch stablecoins pegged to other fiat currencies how Paxos will provide attestation reports for PYUSD why Jose thinks gaming is a huge opportunity for stablecoin payments what the rationale was for launching an ERC-20 on Ethereum how PayPal plans to monetize the stablecoin why PayPal’s expectations for PYUSD in the short-term are “moderate” Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Guest José Fernández da Ponte, SVP of Blockchain, Crypto and Digital Currencies at PayPal Links Unchained: PayPal Launches PYUSD Stablecoin Built on Ethereum CoinDesk: PayPal’s Real Stablecoin Strategy: It Wants to Earn Interest on Your Deposits Congresswoman Maxine Waters Says She’s ‘Deeply Concerned’ About PayPal’s New Stablecoin U.S. Stablecoin Bill Takes Big Step Despite Fight From Democrats, White House Paxos Has Other 'White Label' Stablecoin Opportunities in the Works in Addition to PayPal USD Blockworks: PayPal’s new stablecoin stirs centralization criticism CNBC: PayPal is trying to drag its 435 million users into the $120 billion stablecoin market — here's why Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, a quiet conclusion to that Curve thing everyone was animated about. Plus, major developments from Web2 giant PayPal as it continues its journey down the crypto rabbithole. Also, is Maker’s juiced DAI Savings Rate the new Anchor? The gang discusses. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how The Chopping Block got that sweet, sweet Red Bull money what to make of the Curve hacker’s message after they returned the funds does Curve trying to dox the hacker proves that Arkham’s model is right? the lessons from the Curve situation and whether DeFi needs to change how DeFi protocols could prevent situations where a single entity holds a significant percentage of a token’s total supply how the enhanced DAI Savings Rate triggered PTSD from other stablecoins (ahem, Anchor) what the consequences are of increasing the DSR the gang’s prediction on how much PYUSD will be minted by the end of 2023 Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links Unchained: $52 Million Drained in Curve Finance Pools Exploit Curve Founder’s Liquidation Could Trigger Chaos for DeFi Curve Exploit Results in Largest MEV Block Rewards in Ethereum’s History PayPal Launches PYUSD Stablecoin Built on Ethereum MakerDAO’s Spark Protocol Blocks VPN Users Curve Opens $1.85 Million Bounty to Identify Hacker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Worldcoin is getting hit from all sides. Following a popular launch in late July, critics from the crypto community and public sector alike are coming out in droves with concerns about privacy, data protection, and tokenomics. Worldcoin co-founder Alex Blania joins the show to address the recent criticism and reiterate the project’s lofty goals. “It sounds crazy,” he said, “so you really need to understand the technology to understand why it’s not concerning. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Worldcoin believes in the idea of a universal basic income (UBI) how World ID actually works, from the initial “orb” scan to actually using the app Alex’s comments on the rise of a black market for World IDs whether Worldcoin is storing people’s biometric data how people don’t really understand the nuances of getting their irises scanned and why it’s fine that the “average person will not understand how crypto works,” according to Alex whether Worldcoin took into consideration the various regulations around the world what the purpose of the WLD token is why the project decided to launch the token with a low float how Alex got convinced to join Worldcoin and become one of its leaders why Alex believes that Worldcoin will become a “very powerful technology” that will be the main project for onboarding people to crypto Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guest: Alex Blania, cofounder of Worldcoin Previous appearances on Unchained: Is Sam Altman's Worldcoin the End of People's Privacy? Links Previous coverage of Unchained on Worldcoin: Why CoinFund Believes Worldcoin Could Become More Popular Than Bitcoin Unchained: Worldcoin Can Be More ‘Widely Distributed’ Than Bitcoin, CoinFund Executives Say Worldcoin Launches Token on Mainnet, Plans to Deploy 1,500 Eyeball Scanning Orbs Is Sam Altman's Worldcoin the End of People's Privacy? CoinDesk: Worldcoin Could Enable Wider Distribution of Crypto Than Even Bitcoin, Says CoinFund Worldcoin Releases Tokenomics, Report Geofenced for Some Countries The Block: German authorities probe Worldcoin project over privacy: Reuters Reuters: Kenyan government suspends activities of Worldcoin in country Rest of World: Why are people lining up for Worldcoin eyeball scans? “Easy $50,” What do I think about biometric proof of personhood? By Vitalik Buterin MIT Technology Review: Deception, exploited workers, and cash handouts: How Worldcoin recruited its first half a million test users Ouriel Ohayon’s video Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While it’s now mostly contained, the Curve crisis has exposed some of the systemic risks in the world of DeFi. Sam Kazemian, founder of Frax Finance, joins the show to discuss what DeFi needs to do to get better – and what builders should learn from a novel attack that was ultimately about much more than $50 million in drained funds. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how the Curve exploit occurred and why this hack is different how the attack triggered a crisis in major lending platforms like Aave, Fraxlend, and Abracadabra what Curve founder Michael Egorov’s solution was to the potential liquidation of his several loans whether this situation proves that DeFi is not as good as promised what can be done to prevent these kinds of issues in the future, particularly with large loans in DeFi that could potentially bring down the ecosystem Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Arbitrum Foundation Thales DAO Guest Sam Kazemian, founder of Frax Finance Links Previous coverage on the Curve hack: The Chopping Block: Who’s to Blame for the Curve Hack? Unchained: $52 Million Drained in Curve Finance Pools Exploit Curve Founder’s Liquidation Could Trigger Chaos for DeFi Curve Exploit Results in Largest MEV Block Rewards in Ethereum’s History CoinDesk: Curve Founder Deploys New Liquidity Pool to Address FRAX Debt Situation Spooked by Curve Liquidation Threat, DeFi Protocols Shore Up Defenses Aave Should Block Curve Token Borrowing, Risk Management Firm Proposes After the Curve Attack: What's Next for DeFi? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, Laurence Day, smart-contract sleuth and co-founder of Wildcat Finance, joins the show to discuss the ramifications of the Curve Finance exploit that has the DeFi world talking. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Curve Finance, one of the most prominent DeFi protocols, got hacked why maintaining different coding languages and clients is so hard whether developers are responsible for this kind of attack whether Curve founder Michael Egorov’s loans in Aave and Fraxlend have put DeFi at risk how the loan in Fraxlend impacted the liquidation price of the Aave loan Tarun’s reaction to the situation, given that his firm Gauntlet has tried to mitigate these risks in the past how people in the community worked together to keep DeFi safe and resilient why Tarun got canceled on LinkedIn what happened with the BALD meme coin mania on Base Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest: Laurence Day, co-founder of Wildcat Finance Disclosures Links Unchained: BALD Token Falls 90% Amid Rug Pull Allegations $60 Million in ETH Bridged to Coinbase Layer 2 Base Curve Founder’s Liquidation Could Trigger Chaos for DeFi $52 Million Drained in Curve Finance Pools Exploit Curve Exploit Results in Largest MEV Block Rewards in Ethereum’s History CoinDesk: Curve Founder Deploys New Liquidity Pool to Address FRAX Debt Situation Spooked by Curve Liquidation Threat, DeFi Protocols Shore Up Defenses Aave Should Block Curve Token Borrowing, Risk Management Firm Proposes After the Curve Attack: What's Next for DeFi? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CoinFund’s Jake Brukhman and Chris Perkins join Unchained to dissect their recent $158 million seed round and the transformation of the investment landscape following the 2022 crypto carnage. As backers of Worldcoin, they confront criticisms about the project's approach of distributing money to individuals who may not fully comprehend the underlying technology. They also delve into why the Coinbase lawsuit could potentially boost the industry, share their perspectives on current crypto legislation, and explore the intersection of AI and crypto. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how the fundraising crypto environment changed this past year after the 2022 carnage what the impact of FTX’s alleged fraud has been why Chris and Jake believe that the SEC’s lawsuit against Coinbase is bullish for the industry why Jake believes there's no massive consumer application in web3 yet how institutions have been building during the bear market whether Worldcoin solves the sybil resistance problem in crypto and whether it could become more decentralized than Bitcoin Jake's response to the criticism surrounding the centralization and privacy issues in Worldcoin the ethical implications of giving free money to people who may not fully understand how their biometric data is being used what the Composite Ether Staking Rate (CESR) is and what are its two main applications how the foundational web3 + AI intersection is happening in the compute area why Chris believes that the crypto market structure bill is not perfect whether creating proper stablecoin legislation is a very important opportunity for the US how DeFi should be regulated to ensure that privacy gets protected Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guests: Chris Perkins, President of CoinFund Jake Brukhman, Founder and CEO of CoinFund Links Unchained: Worldcoin Launches Token on Mainnet, Plans to Deploy 1,500 Eyeball Scanning Orbs Is Sam Altman's Worldcoin the End of People's Privacy? CoinDesk: Worldcoin Could Enable Wider Distribution of Crypto Than Even Bitcoin, Says CoinFund, Worldcoin Releases Tokenomics, Report Geofenced for Some Countries The Block: What exactly is CoinFund's new Composite Ethereum Staking Rate What do I think about biometric proof of personhood? By Vitalik Buterin CoinDesk Indices and CoinFund Announce CESR, the Benchmark Rate for Staking on Ethereum CoinFund Reinforces Commitment to Web3 Technology with the Close of $158M Seed IV Fund Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Crypto markets are under the gun from SEC Chairman Gary Gensler’s ‘regulation by enforcement’ policy. Meanwhile, a divided political landscape creates gridlock on Capitol Hill. Democratic Representative Ritchie Torres (NY-15) claims regulators have overstepped their bounds, while generational divide in the Democratic party slows appropriate regulatory legislation from passing. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Why stablecoins are less dangerous than fractional reserve banking How the current system fails to protect retail investors Why Democrats and Republicans have flipped traditional stances on regulation Increased skepticism after the FTX meltdown Regulation by enforcement an abuse of power If and when a digital asset is an investment contract What he views as Prometheum’s planned political stunt Resolving crypto’s long term problems responsibly Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Ondo Finance Arbitrum Foundation Guest Ritchie Torres, U.S. representative Links Fortune: Ritchie Torres went from crypto ‘newbie’ to key ally in Washington. Now he could shape the industry’s post-FTX future NY Daily: A liberal case for cryptocurrency CoinDesk: Rep. Ritchie Torres: We've Seen a 'Weaponization of the SEC' From Gensler Against Crypto Industry U.S. Financial Service Committee: McHenry, Thompson, Hill, Johnson Release Digital Asset Market Structure Proposal Bloomberg Law: McHenry Says White House Torpedoed Bipartisan Stablecoin Deal NBC: Sen. Cynthia Lummis: Crypto regulation bill could prevent another FTX-style crisis Rep. Torres’s open letter to Gensler following the Ripple decision Rep. Torres’ speech Previously on Unchained Why the SEC Doesn’t Want the Ripple Case to Go to the Supreme Court New Order in SEC vs. Ripple Over XRP Is a Win for Crypto: What Happens Now? Why the SEC vs. Ripple Order Is Now About 2 Things: Coinbase and Congress Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, they debate whether infrastructure is being over-invested in, explore the potential of UniswapX and the controversial launch of Worldcoin’s token, and dive into the curious world of hamster racing in crypto. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Tarun thinks EthCC Paris was much better than ETH Denver whether VCs are overinvesting in infrastructure why Haseeb believes that founders should focus on building applications rather than infrastructure whether the WRLD token is a new “Sam coin” what everyone thinks about Worldoin and the need to develop proof of personhood in crypto what is going on with hamster racing and whether this is the reason "normies hate crypto" UniswapX and its benefits (and tradeoffs) whether there is a shift toward intents-based trading Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Disclosures Links Unchained: Worldcoin Launches Token on Mainnet, Plans to Deploy 1,500 Eyeball Scanning Orbs UniswapX Launches With MEV Protection and Gas Free Swaps Is Sam Altman's Worldcoin the End of People's Privacy? Decrypt: You Can Now Bet Crypto on Hamster Races. What Could Go Wrong? What do I think about biometric proof of personhood? By Vitalik Buterin Paradigm: Intent-Based Architectures and Their Risks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Despite the doom and gloom, Placeholder VC partners Chris Burniske and Joel Monegro are highly bullish on the present moment. “We’re all going to look back on this period and remember it as fondly as we remember ‘18 and ‘19,” Monegro tells Laura Shin. The two long-term investors explain why the confluence of macroeconomic factors and crypto-native (and AI) innovations make this the ideal time to invest in a Web3 future. They cut their teeth on Bitcoin, they grew up with Ethereum; hear what they think is next. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Chris says crypto’s four-year cycle will likely play out once again the role of interest rates in asset valuation whether the crypto industry has learned its lessons from the “crypto carnage” of 2022 whether there’s a future for KYC’d DeFi when failing in crypto should be considered a crime, as in the Do Kwon case what could happen with the rate hikes and how the macroeconomic environment affects the markets how the ruling in the Ripple case impacts the development of new crypto companies and user adoption whether Joel felt relieved by the ruling, considering Placeholder has invested in many tokens that were named as securities by the SEC what Joel thinks of the new crypto bill in Congress and how he wishes that smart contracts were used to self-regulate the industry what Joel and Chris think of the delicate situations of crypto giants such as Binance and DCG whether the fat protocol thesis still holds up and whether it colors Placeholder’s current investment thesis why most of the Layer 1s will become rollups, according to Chris why Chris is bullish on Solana, despite the massive collapse in value following the FTX debacle how NFTs will play a significant role in “establishing the provenance of content” whether AI agents will become crypto power users Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guests: Chris Burniske, partner at Placeholder VC Previous appearance on Unchained: 2022 in Review + How Cobie and Chris Burniske Are Playing the New Year Cobie and Chris Burniske on How to Navigate a Crypto Bear Market How To Value A Crypto Asset Joel Monegro, partner at Placeholder VC. Placeholder’s Joel Monegro on the Fat Protocols Thesis Links Fat Protocols by Joel Monegro The Blockchain Application Stack by Joel Monegro Decred Thesis by Joel Monegro and Chris Burniske WSJ: Binance Lays Off Over 1,000 Employees Binance Cuts Back Employee Benefits, Citing Decline in Profit CoinDesk: Unpacking the Latest Lummis-Gillibrand Bill Draft Reuters: US SEC accepts six spot bitcoin ETF proposals for review Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If the SEC wants to appeal last week’s judgment in the Ripple case, it better act fast. So says Bill Hughes, regulatory chief at Ethereum booster ConsenSys and one of the many crypto policy pros assessing the ramifications of U.S. district judge Analisa Torres’ decision. The regulatory agency’s decision to appeal hinges on a number of factors, Hughes says, including that this Supreme Court will likely be unkind to SEC Chair Gary Gensler’s interpretation of how to regulate crypto. But of course, a political calculus is also in play, and suddenly U.S. lawmakers have a slew of crypto bills and amendments to choose from. How will it play out? Show highlights: whether the SEC is going to appeal the recent Ripple ruling and whether Judge Analisa Torres would allow it what the risks are for the SEC of taking the case to the Second Circuit why Bill believes that the SEC’s chances are not good at the Supreme Court what the motivation is behind the new DeFi bill in the U.S. Senate how that bill would impact the different stakeholders in a DeFi project why the crypto community should put its focus on the stablecoin and market structure bills first, according to Bill how the SEC has been dropping lawsuits days prior to Congressional debates about crypto Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Ondo Finance Arbitrum Foundation Guest Bill Hughes, senior counsel and director of global regulatory matters at ConsenSys. Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the Ripple case: Why the SEC vs. Ripple Order Is Now About 2 Things: Coinbase and Congress New Order in SEC vs. Ripple Over XRP Is a Win for Crypto: What Happens Now? The Chopping Block: Should XRP Holders Really Be Rejoicing? The SEC's Lawsuit Against Ripple and 2 Execs: What You Need to Know Ripple's XRP: Why Its Chances of Success Are Low CoinDesk: Ripple's Legal Win Means It's Time for Crypto to Stand Up to the SEC Unchained: U.S. Senate Bill Calls for Strict KYC and AML Regulations for DeFi SEC vs Ripple: Judge Rules XRP Sold on Exchanges Is Not a Security Bill’s thread on the Lummis-Gillibrand amendment S.Amdt.712 to S.2226 - 118th Congress (2023-2024) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

XRP isn’t itself a security; it depends on how it’s sold. So said a federal judge last Thursday in the SEC vs. Ripple case and the implications are significant. Jake Chervinsky, chief policy officer at the Blockchain Association, and lawyer Kayvan Sadeghi, partner at Jenner & Block, join the show to discuss two major ramifications. One: U.S. District Judge Analisa Torres dealt a major blow to the legal theory underpinning the SEC’s case against Coinbase. Two: This order really “lights a fire” under U.S. lawmakers to act on a pair of crypto bills in Congress. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why this is an “extraordinary victory” for the industry, according to Jake whether Judge Torres made the right decision how the SEC could seek an interlocutory appeal to halt the case, though it’s unlikely what are the pending items in the case that need to be resolved why the order that Judge Torres issued is not a final judgment why it is more important to look at the transaction, not at the nature of the asset, to determine whether something should be deemed a security whether the SEC has the authority to call digital assets securities the significance of the “major questions doctrine” how the order in the Ripple case will affect other cases like the Coinbase one whether exchanges should re-list XRP why this case could be instrumental in steering the direction of crypto regulation in the U.S. whether other crypto tokens like SOL or MATIC should feel relieved with this new ruling why Jake says that this case will speed up the chances of crypto legislation getting passed what the differences are between the current crypto bills that are being proposed whether SEC Chair Gary Gensler should recuse himself from enforcement actions in the crypto industry Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guests: Jake Chervinsky, chief policy officer at the Blockchain Association Previous appearances on Unchained: The Chopping Block: Jake Chervinsky on How the SEC Has Lost Credibility All Things Crypto Regulation With Jake Chervinsky Everything You Need to Know About the Looming Battle Over Privacy in Crypto Can Crypto Be a Force in the Midterms? Yes, Say Kristin Smith and Jake Chervinsky Kayvan Sadeghi, partner at Jenner & Block and co-chair of the fintech and crypto assets practice. Links: Previous coverage of Unchained on the Ripple case: New Order in SEC vs. Ripple Over XRP Is a Win for Crypto: What Happens Now? The Chopping Block: Should XRP Holders Really Be Rejoicing? The SEC's Lawsuit Against Ripple and 2 Execs: What You Need to Know Ripple's XRP: Why Its Chances of Success Are Low SEC vs Ripple: Judge Rules XRP Sold on Exchanges Is Not a Security CoinDesk: Ripple, Crypto Industry Score Partial Win in SEC Court Fight Over XRP Ripple Labs Ruling Throws U.S. Crypto-Token Regulation into Disarray The Washington Post: Ripple ruling threatens SEC’s crypto regulation push Chair Gensler Must Recuse Himself From Digital Asset Enforcement Decisions - Blockchain Association Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, crypto lawyer Stephen Palley joins an emergency live show to unpack Thursday’s judgment in the Ripple case. Crypto markets are pumping after a judge handed Ripple Labs a partial victory in its fight against the SEC. But is the jubilation warranted? “I can understand why people are happy,” said Palley, a partner at Brown Rudnick LLP. “I’m just a little more cautious on what happens next.” Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Judge Analisa Torres ruled that retail sales of XRP do not violate U.S. securities laws how the court denied summary judgment on some issues relating to Ripple’s Brad Garlinghouse and Chris Larsen why “Footnote 16” of the ruling was so “surprising,” according to Stephen whether the SEC will appeal the case and how that process could unfold why Coinbase, Kraken and other exchanges re-listed XRP and whether that’s a safe step whether Coinbase will cite the Ripple judgment in its lawsuit against the SEC how this ruling does not represent a binding precedent why, even though this is a win for Ripple, it shouldn’t be used for investment strategy why Haseeb thinks the SEC should “fire their press department” whether the SEC’s case is “stronger than people on Twitter might like to believe” how, if proven, the allegations against Celsius founder Alex Mashinsky are “straight-up fraud” why Stephen says that a lot of the enforcement activity focused on DeFi was an “absolute misuse of resources” Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest: Stephen Palley, litigation partner at Brown Rudnick Disclosures Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the Ripple case: New Order in SEC vs. Ripple Over XRP Is a Win for Crypto: What Happens Now? The SEC's Lawsuit Against Ripple and 2 Execs: What You Need to Know Ripple's XRP: Why Its Chances of Success Are Low Unchained: SEC vs Ripple: Judge Rules XRP Sold on Exchanges Is Not a Security Former Celsius CEO Alex Mashinsky Arrested in New York - Unchained Crypto CoinDesk: Ripple, Crypto Industry Score Partial Win in SEC Court Fight Over XRP Ripple Labs Ruling Throws U.S. Crypto-Token Regulation into Disarray The Washington Post: Ripple ruling threatens SEC’s crypto regulation push Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The SEC and Ripple have been locked in a legal tug of war for years, stirring up waves of controversy and debate in the crypto community. Finally, Judge Analisa Torres has given an order establishing that XRP buyers trading on exchanges were not, in fact, engaging in a securities transaction, a decision that could have far-reaching implications for the industry. Lewis Cohen, co-founder of DLx Law, unpacks the details of this pivotal case and what it might mean for the future of cryptocurrency regulation. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why the SEC lawsuit against Ripple has such historical significance in the crypto industry how Judge Torres split the case into two categories why the 'programmatic buyers' did not meet the four prongs of the Howey test why the institutional sales constituted an investment contract what makes the Ripple case different from the Kik and Telegram cases whether the new ruling by Judge Torres will have an impact on how other crypto projects deal with their offerings why, in the event of an appeal, Lewis expects a Second Circuit decision to take at least one year whether Judge Torres' decision will impact the ongoing cases against crypto exchanges like Coinbase why Lewis thinks the XRP order will not change the likelihood that spot bitcoin ETFs get approved how there's no way to deal with information asymmetries in digital assets now Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Ondo Finance Arbitrum Foundation Guest Lewis Cohen, Cofounder DLx Law Previous appearances on Unchained: The Lummis/Gillibrand Crypto Bill: Is the ‘Ancillary Token’ Approach the Best Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the Ripple case: The SEC's Lawsuit Against Ripple and 2 Execs: What You Need to Know Ripple's XRP: Why Its Chances of Success Are Low CoinDesk: Ripple, Crypto Industry Score Partial Win in SEC Court Fight Over XRP The Ineluctable Modality of Securities Law: Why Fungible Crypto Assets Are not Securities Paradigm Files Amicus Brief in SEC’s Lawsuit Against Ripple The Block: Lummis, Gillibrand to introduce revised comprehensive crypto bill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest crypto news. This week, the crew is joined by Goldfinch co-founder Blake West to talk about the momentum around asset tokenization. Whether it’s private credit (what Goldfinch specializes in) or U.S. Treasurys (what Robert’s new venture Superstate will tackle), real-world assets (RWAs) are en vogue among the crypto set. What’s driving this fresh interest in an old concept that has failed to take off? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Blake got into RWAs why Robert launched his new company Superstate why Robert hates the term “real-world asset” why the only actual RWA in the blockchain space is the U.S. dollar, aka stablecoins why other non-native crypto assets have struggled to migrate onto blockchains how having on-chain T-bills could push demand for stablecoins why private credit is a good thing to bring on chain, according to Blake what the not-so-obvious benefits of bringing these things onto blockchains are whether Arkham’s model of de-anonymizing people goes against the ethos of crypto Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Robert Leshner, founder of Compound Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Guest: Blake West, cofounder of Goldfinch Disclosures Links Unchained: Compound Founder Creates ‘Superstate’ to Bridge TradFi and Blockchains Arkham Launches Bounty Marketplace to Trade Crypto Wallet Intel MakerDAO Mulls Proposal to Allocate $750 Million More to US Treasuries MakerDAO Has Brought in Real World Assets. Is It Worth the Risk? CoinDesk: Tokenized U.S. Treasurys Surpass $600M as Crypto Investors Capture TradFi Yield Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In recent months, ChatGPT, Bard and other new artificial intelligence (AI) products have revolutionized numerous industries. But how this nascent technology can work with crypto and blockchain technology is still relatively unexplored. In this episode, Illia Polosukhin and Jason Warner delve into the transformative potential of AI and crypto coming together. They explore a wide array of applications, from AIs managing Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs), to DAOs being used to help open source AIs, to blockchain technology making the inner workings of AIs more transparent. Tune in to this episode for a deep dive into the fusion of AI and crypto. Show highlights: Illia's and Jason’s backgrounds, including how Illia’s work in artificial intelligence (AI) got him into crypto what AI actually encompasses and how to define it why Jason says that "it works right now, it's machine learning and if you're raising money, it's AI" how blockchains can facilitate the provision of resources for training data the problem of attribution in training AI models how OpenAI and Midjourney hold a lot of power at the moment, according to Illia why open source code helps build better AI systems how LLMs are being used to audit code in the blockchain ecosystem up to what point AI can be used for crypto trading why misinformation is a human problem, not an “AI problem,” and how blockchain technology can help solve this issue how blockchains can be used to verify facts to combat misinformation whether AI can help mitigate attacks on DeFi protocols how DAOS and AI can work together and whether AI can coordinate a company what’s missing in terms of infrastructure for DAOs to thrive with AI how to structure regulation with this rapidly evolving technology Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 OKX Guests: Illia Polosukhin, cofounder of NEAR. Previous appearance on The Chopping Block: The Chopping Block: Why AI Will Change the Course of History in Crypto Jason Warner, founder at Poolside. Links Op-ed by Illia: Blockchain can save the media - Blockworks CoinDesk: AI Can Generate a Trading Edge in Crypto Markets 10 Ways Crypto and AI Can Make Each Other Better (or Maybe Worse) Blockchain May Offer Answers for AI Challenges Former FTX.US President Brett Harrison's New Venture Is Seeking to Harness AI for Crypto Trading Blockchain Developer Platform Alchemy Releases AI-Powered Tools for Web3 Builders When AI and Blockchain Merge, Expect the Mundane at First Imagining the Future AI and Web3 Can Build World Economic Forum: Blockchain can help combat the threat of deepfakes. Here's how Cointelegraph: DAOs: Where humans may fail, AI could succeed Forbes: Convergence Of Web3, AI And Metaverse: Navigating The Great Reset For Investors, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 2022, crypto crime hit an all-time high. A staggering $3.8 billion in crypto was stolen, with DeFi protocols bearing the brunt of these thefts, accounting for 82% of the total losses. Amid this alarming scenario, has a beacon of hope emerged in ERC-7265? The proposal aims to create a 'circuit breaker' safety layer for DeFi contracts, potentially revolutionizing security measures in the crypto space. Could this be the key to bolstering security and paving the way for mass adoption of DeFi? Will it essentially centralize protocols? Tune in to find out. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what ERC-7265 is meant to do and why they called it a 'circuit breaker’ how the idea would actually work on chain how this ERC could make DeFi applications more centralized, rather than decentralized what can be done to prevent small teams from seizing funds how different teams will be able to design the circuit breaker as they want what unsafe arbitrary calls and unprotected flows are why Philippe believes that this proposal will help newer teams improve their security how the ERC can pave the way for a more decentralized protocol what will it take for protocols to start adopting the new standard Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO Ondo Finance Arbitrum Foundation Guest Philippe Dumonet, Cofounder of DeReg Links Chainalysis 2022 report The Block: Ethereum community proposes new standard to mitigate DeFi hacks Philippe’s thread on ERC-7265 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The ERC-721 token standard on Ethereum ignited the frenzied world of NFTs. Yet, as the dust settled, their limitations became apparent. Enter ERC-6551, a new standard designed to overcome these challenges. Benny Giang and Jayden Windle, cofounder and founding developer of Future Primitive, respectively, delve into the transformative potential of ERC-6551, a standard which allows every NFT to have a smart contract wallet associated with it. They discuss the exciting new possibilities it unlocks in the spheres of gaming, the metaverse, identity, messaging, and more. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what ERC-6551 is and how the idea was born the differences between NFT token standards the four big categories of applications for this new token standard why Benny thinks that "network playable characters" will solve many of the problems in the digital space how the token bound accounts work and whether they can interact with existing wallets the security implications of using ERC-6551 what Future Primitive does in the web3 space how creators can benefit from this new development whether it's possible for soulbound tokens to work with token bound accounts how blue chip NFT collections are using ERC-6551, if at all what could go wrong with token-bound accounts that are combined with AI what new things are being envisioned with this new standard Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 OKX Guests: Benny Giang, cofounder of Future Primitive Jayden Windle, founding developer of Future Primitive Previous appearance on Unchained: Your NFTs Can Do Much More Than You Think Links ERC-6551: Non-fungible Token Bound Accounts Tokenbound ERC 6551 — Token Bound Accounts. Every NFT will have their own wallets… by Benny Giang Unchained: How Soulbound Tokens Could Reduce Speculation and Improve DAO Voting - Quadratic Funding Could Account Abstraction Make Self-Custody Easier for Crypto Users? Ethereum Implements Account Abstraction With ERC-4337 What Can You Do in the Metaverse? Exploring the NFT blue chips What is the metaverse? What Is an NFT Marketplace? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From “hush money” allegations to a prospective FTX relaunch, it’s been a crazy week for those following the legal saga of Sam Bankman-Fried’s collapsed crypto empire. Perhaps few are following it more closely than 507 Capital founder Thomas Braziel, who specializes in the trading of bankruptcy claims. He explains the significance of a spate of recent headlines and shares newsworthy tidbits from his meeting with new FTX honcho John J. Ray III. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: what the Daniel Friedberg lawsuit revealed about the whistleblowers of FTX how FTX used allegedly false claims in its Series C funding round whether Friedberg’s former law firm, Fenwick & West, will suffer legal consequences how John Ray is prosecuting the allegedly fraudulent transactions made by FTX what stood out to Thomas in his personal dealings with John Ray what the timeline is for filing a reorganization plan for FTX what the odds are of an FTX 2.0 relaunch, according to Thomas why Thomas says that FTT won’t play a role in the potential FTX recovery whether the decision to redact the identities of FTX customers was right Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Proton Railgun DAO Guest Thomas Braziel, Founder of 507 Capital Previous appearances on Unchained Will FTX Customers Ever Recover Their Assets? Two Insolvency Experts Weigh In Will Celsius Survive the Bankruptcy Process? How Crypto Bankruptcy Claims Buyers Will Profit From the Collapse of FTX Links Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning? How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC CoinDesk: FTX Customers Have Until End-September to Submit Bankruptcy Claims Unchained: FTX Sues Former Compliance Chief Who Allegedly Silenced Whistleblowers FTX Stops Sale of $500 Million Stake in AI Firm Anthropic: Report FTX Recovers $7 Billion in Assets in Liquid Assets WSJ: FTX Begins Talks on Reboot Amid Regulatory Crackdown on Crypto Exchanges Bloomberg: Bankman-Fried's FTX Halts Sale of $500 Million AI Startup Anthropic Stake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices