
Two by Two
The Two by Two podcast is a premium business podcast from The Ken that investigates, discusses and breaks down the most important business stories around you.
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Show overview
Two by Two has been publishing since 2024, and across the 2 years since has built a catalogue of 30 episodes, alongside 2 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 35 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a monthly cadence, with the show now in its 2nd season.
Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 1h and 1h 15m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 6 days ago, with 24 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2026, with 24 episodes published. Published by The Ken.
From the publisher
The Two by Two podcast is a premium business podcast from The Ken that investigates, discusses and breaks down the most important business stories around you. Hosted from The Ken's newsroom by business journalists Rohin Dharmakumar and Praveen Gopal Krishnan, Two by Two will feature guests and experts from across the industry and academia to talk about issues no one else is talking about.
Latest Episodes
View all 30 episodesRewind : The numbers behind OpenAI, Gemini, and Perplexity’s deals with Phonepe, Jio, and Airtel
India's AI edge is that it has no AI of its own
Why Jio made Dhurandhar and then gave it away
India’s biggest companies can afford to build frontier AI. So why won’t they?
The Meta–Cred–Kunal Shah deal, stripped to its fewest assumptions
Agents changed everything about hiring except the outcome
‘Free the rupee. Let it go’—How to save the market from investors
Amazon’s quick commerce wildcard is Prime
Everyone bet on PhonePe and CRED. Bajaj Finance got there first.
Groww beat every odd to get here. What beats it next?
Should young designers pay senior designers to teach them?
Hyrox gave India a finish line. What happens after you cross it?
Why do India’s gig workers love a job they’re desperate to leave?
Are HUL's best days behind it?
Can NPCI's BHIM take on the giants it created?
19 years on, is IPL still too big to fail? Sharda Ugra answers
Rapido broke the Uber-Ola duopoly. Can it now break the Swiggy-Zomato one?
The Middle East war will cost India. How much and for how long? Ft. Mohit Satyanand

S2 Ep 28Healthify swallowed its disruptors. But can it digest them?
Most businesses die quietly. They miss a wave, lose relevance and fade out.Healthify nearly got hit by two in quick succession. First, AI that could do what took the company years to build. Then, a drug which meant you didn't need the discipline anymore.So Rahel Philipose and Praveen Gopal Krishnan asked Tushar Vashisht, Healthify's co-founder and CEO, the uncomfortable question directly: if anyone can build an AI coach and a drug can kill your appetite, what exactly are you selling?This episode is really about three things most people don't know. One, why people who take Ozempic without a lifestyle program gain almost all the weight back within a year. Two, what actually happens to a platform business when AI replaces one entire side of it. And three, why Tushar believes his most dangerous competitor hasn't been founded yet.We were also joined by Professor R Srinivasan from IIM Bangalore, who had a very different read on whether Healthify's bet is genius or cope.______This episode was produced by Uddantika Kashyap and mixed and mastered by Rajiv CN, our resident sound engineer.If you liked this episode, share it with your friends, family and colleagues. And if you have thoughts on the discussion, write to us at [email protected].

S2 Ep 27Did Gen Z hand consumer brands a blueprint to beat the giants?
"They are not disloyal. They are unforgiving."Sector by sector, a new generation of brands is doing the same thing by ignoring millennials entirely and going straight for Gen Z. Zepto did it to Blinkit. Snabbit is doing it to Urban Company. The thesis is simple: Gen Z has no loyalty to the old guard, so steal them first and use them as a wedge to crack the rest of the market open.But is that actually true? And if you do win them, can you hold them?Our guest Adarsh Menon has put Fireside Ventures' money behind this question. His portfolio includes brands that have read this generation inside out. On the other hand Ajay Thandi built Sleepy Owl without a single marketer on the founding team and ended up with a brand Gen Z and millennials claim as their own.The most interesting thing they land on isn't about Gen Z at all. It's about aspiration and how it stopped pointing upward. This generation doesn't want to be the person above them. They want to be the person next to them. That one shift changes everything about how you build a brand.Turns out the most fickle generation might be the most loyal one you've ever had. If you deserve it. Further reading- Fireside Ventures — The Indian Consumer at 2030_______This episode was produced by Uddantika Kashyap and mix and mastered by Rajiv CN, our resident sound engineer.If you liked this episode, share it with your friends, family and colleagues. And if you have thoughts on the discussion, write to us at [email protected].