True Crime Campfire

How well do we know the people in our lives? Our coworkers, our friends, the loved ones we sleep next to at night? Everyone decides for themselves how much to share about their private lives. Some of us are over-sharers, posting screenshots of our breakup texts and lunches. Others are closed books, only sharing personal info on a need-to-know basis—and even then, reluctantly. But it’s an almost universal truth that everyone has secrets. We can only know another person as well as they let themselves be known. Most of the time, the secrets we keep are pretty mundane. But once in a while, they’re earth-shattering. Once in a while, we may dig into the life of someone we care about and find something we would never have imagined in our worst nightmares. Once in a while, a secret can be deadly. Sources:CBS "48 Hours Mystery," episode "The Stranger Beside Me"Investigation Discovery "Grave Secrets," episode "Ten Weeks Later"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/remains-found-in-arizona-idd-as-long-missing-woman-jamie-laiaddee/https://www.azfamily.com/archives/jamie-laiaddees-convicted-killer-speaks-from-prison-after-her-remains-identified/article_2b4a4a0b-e526-5f7d-9de8-6f87d5eb5d5d.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, a free sticker and more!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1, we introduced you to Mark Twitchell. Aspiring filmmaker—though he’s stealing from his own production company and making up outrageous lies to lure investors…New husband and father—though he’s cheating on his wife and showing little interest in fatherhood…And Dexter wannabe. As Twitchell got more and more engrossed in “Dexter” and started researching psychopathy, an “epiphany” began to take shape in his mind. He believed in fate. He believed he was an instrument of it. And now, he felt he knew what fate had in store for him. He would become a serial killer. He was about to move from the realm of fantasy where he’d spent most of his life up til now, to the cold, dark reality of murder. He was making plans. And a whole lot of lives were about to change forever. Join us now for part 2 of this bizarre story.Sources:The Devil's Cinema by Steve Lillibuenhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/twitchell-found-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder-1.998969CBS's, "48 Hours Mystery," Episode "Screenplay for Murder"NBC's "Dateline," Episode "Deadly House of Cards""SK Confessions" manuscript: https://www.scribd.com/doc/202712564/51755869-WARNING-GRAPHIC-Alleged-Diary-From-Twitchell-s-Computerhttp://www.stevelillebuen.com/crime-and-justice/the-question-of-mark-twitchell-dexter-killer/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free and at least a day early, an extra episode a month, a free sticker and more!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The builders of the Titanic were so sure they’d crafted an unsinkable ship that—in addition to bragging about it all over the media, they opted not to include enough lifeboats to rescue all the passengers in the event of a problem. We all know how that worked out. In Greek mythology, Icarus needed to get off the island of Crete—so he crafted wings out of feathers and wax so he could fly himself on out of there. His dad tried to tell him—Icarus, don’t try to fly too high with those things. You’re not a god—you’ll fall flat on your face. But Icarus didn’t want to hear that, and when he flew a scoach too close to the sun, the wax melted and…well, we know the rest of the story. We could give you lots of other examples from history and literature: Dr. Frankenstein, who was so proud of himself that he’d figured out how to reanimate human tissue that he never stopped to think about whether this was a good idea in the first place. General Custer, and his unwinnable fight at Little Big Horn. What do all these folks have in common? HUBRIS. That tempting little tendency to feel like we’re better than everybody else and the rules don’t apply to us. For some people, hubris just pops up in an occasional moment of weakness. But for others, this kind of arrogance is the organizing principle of their lives. We’re about to learn the story of one of these people.Sources:The Devil's Cinema by Steve Lillibuenhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/twitchell-found-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder-1.998969CBS's, "48 Hours Mystery," Episode "Screenplay for Murder"NBC's "Dateline," Episode "Deadly House of Cards""SK Confessions" manuscript: https://www.scribd.com/doc/202712564/51755869-WARNING-GRAPHIC-Alleged-Diary-From-Twitchell-s-Computerhttp://www.stevelillebuen.com/crime-and-justice/the-question-of-mark-twitchell-dexter-killer/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free and at least a day early, an extra episode a month, a free sticker and more!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Most parents will tell you that parenthood is one of the greatest joys in life. And for most parents, that’s undoubtedly true. Having a child is an intense experience in both joyful times and bad, and it tends to change you in ways you can’t possibly anticipate. A parent’s love is eternal and unconditional, and it goes without saying that there’s pretty much nothing a child can do that a parent can’t forgive. Most of the time all this works out just fine. Buuuut…there’s also this. According to the FBI, hundreds of parents are murdered by their kids each year in the US. And in the overwhelming majority of these cases, the parents didn’t even almost see it coming. We’re about to look at a handful of cases where the family’s most golden children—the ones on whom their parents had pinned their greatest dreams—turned on the people who loved them most. Join us for three chilling stories of killer kids. Sources:CBS "48 Hours Mystery," episode "Memory of Murder"Documentary "The Christopher Porco Case, 15 Years Later"Investigation Discovery's "Deadly Women," episode "Killer Kids"Book: The Class Project: How to Kill a Mother: The True Story of Canada's Infamous Bathtub Girls""Crime Investigation Australia," episode "The Gonzales Family Murders"https://7news.com.au/original-fyi/crime-story-investigator/australias-grisliest-murders-money-lies-and-alibis-bring-down-a-baby-faced-killer-c-531469Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, a free sticker and more!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part 1, we introduced you to Cherrylle Dell, a beautiful and manipulative woman whose ex-girlfriend, Nancy Fillmore, says murdered her ex husband Scott. Scott’s had died a couple of years earlier after drinking a bottle of wine laced with antifreeze, and the circumstances of his death led police to rule it a suicide. Now, Nancy was at the Killaloe, Ontario police station claiming it was murder. Not long before Scott died, Cherrylle had left him for a woman and immediately set about accusing him of various kinds of abuse, charges that were all found to be baseless. She seemed to be determined to ruin him and take everything: Their kids, their farmhouse, all the property they’d bought together in their 20 years of marriage. Things were about to get real nasty—and not just for Scott. Join us now for part 2 of this wild story.Sources:TV show "The Case That Haunts Me," episode "The Murder of Scott Dell""Killer Stripper" by Jessi Dillman https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/no-early-parole-for-ottawa-woman-who-laced-her-estranged-husbands-wine-with-anti-freeze-in-1995-killinghttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/dells-daughter-tells-of-weird-conversation/article4169567/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fire is an awesome force. If you don’t take steps to keep it under control, it can rip through the landscape with a fury that’s almost surreal to behold. And once in a great while, you find a person like that—every bit as relentless and indiscriminate as a wildfire, and every bit as determined to devastate anything that tries to get in the way. Just like fire, these people can be beautiful, captivating, hypnotic. We can fool ourselves into thinking we can keep them under control—let them brighten and warm us, but not burn us. Sometimes we make that mistake at our peril. Sources:TV show "The Case that Haunts Me," episode "The Murder of Scott Dell""Killer Stripper" by Jessi Dillmanhttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/dells-daughter-tells-of-weird-conversation/article4169567/https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/no-early-parole-for-ottawa-woman-who-laced-her-estranged-husbands-wine-with-anti-freeze-in-1995-killingFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are few things more irresistible, more frustrating, more fascinating than an unsolved mystery. Today, we have three of them for you: One modern, two vintage. Each of these stories is terrifying and disturbing in its own way. For each, the answer lies tantalizingly just out of reach. We have to admit that we can never know it for sure. But we doubt you’ll be able to resist the lure of these mysteries and the theories that surround them. Sources:https://www.historicmysteries.com/roland-t-owen-murder-room-1046/Buzzfeed "Unsolved," Episodes "Murder in Room 1046," "The Tromp Family's Bizarre Journey," and "The Ghastly Cleveland Torso Murders""Unsolved Mysteries" (TV show), Episode featuring Cleveland Torso Murdershttps://www.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/erry-2018/10/55d2b5ea596983/clevelands-infamous-torso-murd.htmlhttps://www.clevelandpolicemuseum.org/collections/torso-murders/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37293494https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/60elhm/update_on_the_tromp_familyaustralian_case_of/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part 1, we told you about the horrific bombing murder of Marcus Toney. Before he was murdered, Marcus had recently been the victim of identity theft, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. And he, his attorney, and the private investigator he’d hired to look into the theft, suspected his estranged wife Lisa and her mysterious new boyfriend, whose name Marcus didn’t know. We know, though, don’t we campers? It’s Sienky Lallemand, a career con man and identity thief who seems to have romanced Lisa Toney into feeding him her husband’s personal information and using it to buy designer jewelry and luxury cars. It didn’t seem like a coincidence that Marcus ended up murdered right as he was starting to figure out who was responsible for ruining his credit and throwing him into six figures worth of fraudulent debt. Investigators were starting to zero in on Lisa and Sienky, and things were about to get real interesting. Join us now for part 2 of this bizarre story.Sources:"Seduced" by Joy Bergmann. Chicago Reader, May 2002. https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/seduced/Content?oid=908545Oxygen's "Snapped: Killer Couples," Episode "Sienky Lallemand and Lisa Toney"Investigation Discovery's "Wicked Attraction," Episode "Lust for Life"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Identity. The core of who we are. For some of us, we’re connected to it from our earliest days onward. Our interests may change, but our core never does. For others, identity is more fluid. We may change because of the people we encounter, the things we experience, the lessons we learn. Some of us are never in any doubt about who we are. For others, it’s a lifelong journey to find out. But whichever category we fall into, identity is central to being. Unfortunately, some people never develop their own identity. For them, there is no core; there is no essential “I.” So they tend to be chameleons—whoever you want them to be. They may pick up and discard new identities as easily as some of us put on a new dress. This can make them very seductive…sometimes prone to seeing people as tools to help them get what they want…and sometimes, very dangerous. Sources:"Seduced" by Joy Bergmann. Chicago Reader, May 2002. https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/seduced/Content?oid=908545Oxygen's "Snapped: Killer Couples," Episode "Sienky Lallemand and Lisa Toney"Investigation Discovery's "Wicked Attraction," Episode "Lust for Life"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1, we introduced you to a trio of Dungeons and Dragons loving nerds: Chris, Bart, and Neal. All kids who had great potential: Smart, talented, well loved by their families, friends, and teachers. But these three guys each had a dark side, and that darkness was soon to culminate in the worst murder and attempted murder a small North Carolina community has ever seen. Join us now for part 2 of this chilling true story.Sources:Blood Games by Jerry BledsoeCruel Doubt by Joe McGinnessFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nerds are usually pretty harmless. We know, because we are nerds. More often than not, we’re just smart people who are passionate about our interests. Gaming, or comics, or sci fi, or putting on cool costumes and going to cons. Most of us don’t want any trouble. But once in a while, as we’ve seen on this show once before, you get yourself a bad nerd. Join us for a chilling story of greed, fantasy, and murder. Sources:Blood Games by Jerry BledsoeCruel Doubt by Joe McGinnessFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aung San Suu Kyi once said, “It is not power that corrupts, but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it, and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it.” In this episode, we’ll tell you the story of a man who was desperately afraid of losing the stranglehold he had on his little domain, and a woman who was afraid of what he’d do if she didn’t help him keep it. Sources:Deadly Secrets by M. William PhelpsFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greed can come in many forms. It’s not always about money. Some of us get greedy for attention, or drama, or sweets, or sex. In fact, there are probably as many faces of greed as there are people. But because we tend to think of greed as an insatiable hunger for money, it can be easy for the other kinds to fly right under our radar. And that can make us vulnerable. In the story we’re about to tell you, we have two kinds of greed. There’s that traditional, wolfish desire for cash—especially somebody else’s. But then there’s a subtle, insidious greed—a single-minded, self-centered obsession with enlightenment. A quest for spiritual growth that would end up destroying scores of lives, and toppling a beloved folk hero. Sources:CNBC's "American Greed," Episode "Lights! Camera! Fraud!"https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/albany/press-releases/2013/conspirators-sentenced-to-84-months-and-55-months-in-fraud-conspiracy-regarding-the-birth-of-innocence-movie-projecthttps://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/is-mac-parker-the-hero-or-the-villain-in-his-film-financing-drama/Content?oid=2139947https://www.ramtha.com/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We all like to think we’d see a scam coming. We all like to think we’d never get got. We’re more familiar these days than we’ve ever been with catfish and Nigerian princes and “arrest warrants” supposedly issued for us based on our social security numbers. That last one never fails to crack me up. But although we might be pretty savvy when it comes to these classic cons, there’s one place where we all might be vulnerable. Our hearts. Our desire to love and be loved. Love scams have grown exponentially in recent years, with millions of dollars lost to fantasy romances that began on dating sites and ended with empty bank accounts, heartache, and humiliation. We all know the saying “If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.” But people are also really good at convincing themselves of the things they WANT to be true. Quite a few people learned that lesson in this story.Sources:TV show "Forbidden," Episode "Prince of Darkness"https://www.sfweekly.com/news/the-dark-prince/https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/I-am-a-predator-ruin-follows-him-everywhere-3187513.phphttps://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2017/11/01/judges-secretly-recorded-hiv-insult-could-undo-palm-springs-killers-convictions/797205001/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1, we introduced you to Mark and Julie Jensen, two opposite personalities whose initially loving relationship had descended into a toxic mess of abuse and mistrust. Mark had become cold and distant, and Julie felt trapped, afraid that if she tried to leave him, Mark would make good on his threats to take away the kids and “make her look crazy” to the courts. When we left you, unbeknownst to Julie, Mark had just begun a flirtation with a woman in his office, Kelly LeBonte. This mess is about to get worse, campers. Join us now for part 2 of this chilling story.Sources: ABC's "20/20," Episode "A Murder Foreseen"CBS's "48 Hours," Episode "The Letter"https://murderpedia.org/male.J/j/jensen-mark.htmFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We don’t write them quite as often as we used to, but a well-crafted letter can be a real treasure. There’s something intimate about opening an envelope addressed to you and unfolding the paper inside to find the letter writer’s unique handwriting, unique voice, little drawings. Plus anything they might have dropped into the envelope as an extra surprise—a pressed flower, a photograph, a folded up twenty dollar bill. Letters can carry gossip, jokes, professions of undying love…and of course, letters can carry secrets. And in the story we’re about to tell you, a letter was the key to unlocking a mystery so dark, so poisonous, that no one who read it would ever be quite the same again. Sources:ABC's "20/20," Episode "A Murder Foreseen"https://murderpedia.org/male.J/j/jensen-mark.htmCBS's "48 Hours," Episode "The Letter"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1, we began the story of Abraham Shakespeare, a fun-loving, good hearted guy who, at age 40, won 17 million dollars in the Florida lottery and immediately began using it to benefit his community. In fact, in just a couple of years, he spent all but $1.5 million of his winnings, and he was starting to realize that if he wasn’t careful, he could be broke again before long. It was weighing on his mind. We also started telling you about a serial con artist and thief named DeeDee Moore, whose driving force in life was greed. DeeDee dreamed of living the good life, and she seemed determined to do it on other people’s dime. And despite committing crime after crime, DeeDee had never experienced any consequences beyond probation. And when people like DeeDee don’t have to face consequences, they get the message that they can get away with absolutely anything. Sadly, the paths of these two very different people are about to cross, with devastating results. Join us now for part two of this bizarre true crime story.Sources:Book, Unlucky Number by Deborah MathisCNBC's "American Greed," Episode "The Lady Killer"ABC's "20/20," Episode "Lotto Hangover: Big Money, Big Problems"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, ad-free, an extra episode a month, a free sticker and more!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In his play King John, William Shakespeare wrote, “There is no sure foundation set on blood; no certain life achieved by others’ death.” It’s a shame the killer in today’s story didn’t get the memo on that. Money is one of the oldest, most common motives for murder, and in our opinion, one of the coldest. It requires the killer to look at a living, laughing, vital human being and break that life—all the likes and loves and pet peeves, all the dad jokes and kindnesses and little heartbreaks—into dollars and cents. I mean, most of us like money. Most of us daydream of scoring big someday so we can live out our passions, support the people we love, see the world, not have to worry any more. But a sudden change in fortune often brings more trouble than it’s worth. Most people would never consider hurting anyone else just to add some zeros to their bank balance. But for one kindhearted man, all his sudden windfall did for him was put a target on his back.Sources:Book, Unlucky Number by Deborah MathisCNBC's "American Greed," Episode "The Lady Killer"ABC's "20/20," Episode "Lotto Hangover: Big Money, Big Problems"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, ad-free, an extra episode a month, a free sticker and more!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part one we introduced you to the rather creative and varied criminal career of John Edward Robinson, a man whose mask of respectability hid a scheming mind and a heart as cold as needles. Robinson spent his entire young adulthood going from con to con, scamming everyone from corporations to mayors to young single mothers. For the first half of this episode, you could be forgiven for thinking that this is a story about a con man. But when we left you at the end of part 1, things were beginning to take a much darker turn. A young woman named Paula, who had accepted a “job offer” from Robinson, had disappeared. Her family suspected Johnny boy was involved, but the police didn’t feel they had any justification to start a missing persons case, so Paula’s family was left with nothing but worry and unanswered questions. And campers, it’s about to get much worse. Join us now for part 2 of this chilling story.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Serial killers have most likely been around as long as people have, long before we had the term. In fact, some scholars believe that the early stories about vampires, werewolves, and other such creatures were actually created to explain the kinds of violence people didn’t have any other way to explain. The kind of violence perpetrated by what we now call “serial killer.” Ugh. Even that term is chilling, isn’t it? This is the first time we’ve told the story of one of these killers, and we’ve chosen one who—although his crimes aren’t that different from those of BTK or some of those other infamous names—is unique in at least one aspect. He was the first serial killer to find his victims via the brand-new internet. And the way he wooed them was so methodical, so cold, so premeditated, that we struggle to imagine what it would be like to live inside a mind like that. He was a consummate scammer, too, a criminal to the core.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1, we introduced you to John Hawkins, a movie-star handsome young party guy with an endless appetite for sex and scamming—and Gene Hanson, his much older friend/business partner/possible lover. After a few years of unsuccessful scams, the two men had finally launched a successful, legitimate business selling workout gear. But then it all went to hell when, after a year of supposed health problems, Gene turned up dead of a heart attack on his doctor’s exam room floor. John Hawkins was left to pick up the pieces and move on, albeit $1.5 million richer from Gene’s life insurance policies. However, when we left you at the end of part 1, a routine investigation by the life insurance company had alerted detectives to the astounding fact that the man who had died in that doctor’s office was NOT Gene Hanson after all. Now investigators were scrambling to figure out who the hell he was—and where the hell Gene Hanson was hiding. Sources:Vanity Fair, "The Murder Hustle" by Ann Bardach. October 1989.Timeline of the case from "Forensic Files Now:" https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/2017/06/29/just-sweats-fraud-murder/LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-10-14-me-56965-story.htmlAP News: https://apnews.com/6056d3bf876f8f4989241f55f32b3831Oxygen's "Snapped: Killer Couples," episode "John Hawkins and Gene Hanson"Columbus Dispatch: https://www.dispatch.com/article/20140521/NEWS/305219823Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oil and water. Ammonia and bleach. Vinegar and baking soda. Mentos and Diet Coke. There are some substances which, though benign by themselves, can be toxic or explosive when they come together. People can be like that too. Relationship dynamics can be every bit as volatile as chemistry. And when the wrong two people come together, it can start them on a path that leads them—and everyone in their path—to a big BOOM. Sources:Vanity Fair, "The Murder Hustle" by Ann Bardach. October 1989.Timeline of the case from "Forensic Files Now:" https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/2017/06/29/just-sweats-fraud-murder/LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-10-14-me-56965-story.htmlAP News: https://apnews.com/6056d3bf876f8f4989241f55f32b3831Oxygen's "Snapped: Killer Couples," episode "John Hawkins and Gene Hanson"Columbus Dispatch: https://www.dispatch.com/article/20140521/NEWS/305219823Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1, we introduced you to missing private investigator/FBI informant/cult expert Rick Post. Rick’s family had been trying in vain for months to get the police interested in his disappearance, but they had no luck until a defense attorney called in with an anonymous tip given to her by one of her clients. The client had told her that a man matching Rick’s description had been kidnapped and murdered in Mexico. The FBI jumped into the investigation when they realized that the missing man was one of their informants, and when they started interviewing the people closest to Rick, they soon realized that the anonymous tipster was none other than Rick’s best friend and business partner, John Krueger. And in the process of investigating him, they did some digging into Rick’s girlfriend Kim Bailey, too—a self made woman running a multimillion dollar company that peddled quack medicine. And when we left you, a conversation with Kim Bailey’s best friend Lana had revealed a disturbing conspiracy between Krueger and Kim Bailey—Krueger was mad that Rick wouldn’t give him more control over their PI agency, and Kim thought Rick had been cheating on her and embezzling from her company. They were about to hatch a seriously unpleasant plan. Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Murder in Paradise," Episode "Spies, Lies, and Alibis"https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-aug-21-me-torture21-story.htmlhttps://www.devicewatch.org/reports/rife/pretrial_memo.shtmlhttps://www.casewatch.net/doj/bailey/trial_memo.pdf?_ga=2.48969062.1959969553.1582257756-2053706941.1582257756http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4041dmca.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We all have paranoid moments sometimes. We catch our significant other looking at us funny and we wonder, “Uh oh, is he mad at me? What did I say?” Or we walk into the break room and a huddle of coworkers suddenly stops talking—and we think “Oh my God, they were talking about ME. I must be about to be fired!” We all do it, and more often than not we’re wrong. Usually, the consequence of that is nothing more serious than feeling like a doofus for a second. But paranoia was the most dangerous force on earth for the major players in the story we’re about to tell you. It began as the thinnest tendril of a whisper. But soon that tendril branched out, black and cold as a strangling vine, and a whole circle of people would fall victim to its lies. Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Murder in Paradise," Episode "Spies, Lies, and Alibis"https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-aug-21-me-torture21-story.htmlhttps://www.devicewatch.org/reports/rife/pretrial_memo.shtmlhttps://www.casewatch.net/doj/bailey/trial_memo.pdf?_ga=2.48969062.1959969553.1582257756-2053706941.1582257756http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4041dmca.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part 1, we introduced you to Della “Dante” Sutorius, a woman determined to land herself a rich husband and spread as much destruction as possible in the process. A few of Dante’s cute little pranks include setting a boyfriend on fire, sending the same boyfriend to prison for drugs and tax crimes, and burning down another dude’s house. When we left you we were right in the middle of giving you the run-down on some of this dear lady’s most interesting escapades, which as I’m sure you’ve already predicted, are going to culminate one day in murder. Join us now for part 2 of this wild ride of a story.Sources:Book: Della's Web by Aphrodite JonesOxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Dante Sutorius"The Canadian Global Television Network's "Pretty Dangerous," Episode "Della Dante Sutorius"https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/sutorius-della.htmFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy Valentine's Day, campers, and welcome to the Season 3 premiere of True Crime Campfire! We went round and round about which case to cover for our new season premiere, because you want those to be special. And after briefly considering a few other bananapants stories, we realized it HAD to be Dante Sutorius. This woman was a Tazmanian devil, leaving a trail of destruction and bafflement wherever she went—from childhood onward. We talk about stranger than fiction stories—well this one would probably get laughed out of the room at any Hollywood studio as waaay too over the top. “This woman is a cartoon villain,” they’d say. Nobody’s really this bad. Oh, campers. You’re about to find out. There’s a murder in this story, it’s true, and that is the sad, probably inevitable endgame in this case. But the reason we named the episode after the villain rather than the victim is that the story is about so much more than its gruesome, tragic ending. It’s a road trip through Thunderdome. It’s the path of a hurricane. It’s one damn thing after another. Sources:Book: Della's Web by Aphrodite JonesOxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Dante Sutorius"The Canadian Global Television Network's "Pretty Dangerous," Episode "Della Dante Sutorius"https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/sutorius-della.htmFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1 we began the disturbing story of the murder of Julie Kibuishi, who had been shot and left in a pool of blood in her good friend Sam Herr’s bed. Sam, a military vet who had been suffering from PTSD and confiding in Julie about his struggles, was now nowhere to be found, and his car and passport were missing. As police dug into Sam’s bank records to try to locate him, they traced his ATM card to a teenage kid named Wesley who told them a strange story. A family friend named Dan Wozniak had given him the card, he said. Wozniak had told him he was working for a bail bonds company and Sam Herr owed them a lot of money. Could Wesley do them a favor and withdraw the money with the fugitive’s bank card? When we left you, police had just discovered that Dan Wozniak and his fiancée Rachel were neighbors and friends of Sam Herr, and they suspected that Wozniak might have been helping Sam run. So they hauled Danny boy out of his own bachelor party to question him. Why did he have Sam Herr’s bank card? What, if anything, did he know about Julie’s murder? Who was this Dan Wozniak, anyway?Sources: CBS "48 Hours Mystery," episode "Killer Performance"NBC "Dateline," episode "Plot Twist"ABC "20/20," "The Final Act"https://abcnews.go.com/US/actress-convicted-lying-police-fiances-double-murder-pleads/story?id=63234575https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/sam-herr-death-murder-daniel-wozniak/Follow us, campers! Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All the world’s a stage, or so Shakespeare once told us, and all the people in it merely players. That’s a nice idea if we’re just talking allegory, but in real life it’s a dangerous way to view the world. Because when you run across the type of person who thinks this way, they tend to think of themselves as the star of the show, and everybody else as disposable extras. That’s not an outlook that lends itself to “playing well with others.” In this episode, we bring you the true story of a killer who saw himself as the star of the show. And in his mind, the show had to go on, no matter who got hurt in the process. Sources: CBS "48 Hours Mystery," episode "Killer Performance"NBC "Dateline," episode "Plot Twist"ABC "20/20," "The Final Act"https://abcnews.go.com/US/actress-convicted-lying-police-fiances-double-murder-pleads/story?id=63234575https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/sam-herr-death-murder-daniel-wozniak/Follow us, campers! Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part one we learned about Angelina Rodriguez, a greedy opportunist with a heart of darkness. Angie’s first marriage crumbled after the tragic “accidental” death of their baby daughter Alicia, and after cashing in on the $50,000 life insurance policy she’d taken out on the baby the DAY before she died—not to mention the nearly $800,000 settlement from suing the company that made the pacifier that caused Alicia’s death—Angie lived high on the hog for a while. But that money ran out, much faster than anyone would have expected, and Angie soon moved on to a new target—I mean, husband—Frank Rodriguez, whom she snagged by carefully molding herself into the image of the pious Christian family woman Frank had always dreamed of. But when healthy, 41 year old Frank died of unknown causes not long after he and Angie married, investigators began to suspect that this “grieving widow” might not be grieving after all. And when we left you at the end of part 1, detectives were about to get an earful from Angie’s best friend Palmira. Join us now for part 2. Sources:A Taste for Murder by Burl Barer and Frank C. GirardotInvestigation Discovery, "Epic Mysteries," episode "A Taste for Murder"https://writeaprisoner.com/inmates/angelina-rodriguez-x-02712/penpalFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We believe people are basically good. We realize that sounds far-fetched, because people can also be a-holes on a truly epic scale, but hear us out. We think most people have good intentions most of the time and will do the right thing when called upon. However. There are people in this world who are predators, every bit as much as the black widow spiders that sometimes haunt our nightmares. People whose gears are always turning, whose minds are always scanning about for an advantage. A way to come out on top, often at others’ expense. This is the story of a pure predator, a woman with a heart as cold and empty as space. A woman who will likely be a danger to those around her for as long as she draws breath. Sources:A Taste for Murder by Burl Barer and Frank C. GirardotInvestigation Discovery, "Epic Mysteries," episode "A Taste for Murder"https://writeaprisoner.com/inmates/angelina-rodriguez-x-02712/penpalFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1, we began the story of Michael and Sherry Dally, high school sweethearts with two kids and one of those “from the outside, everything looked perfect” kind of marriages. But as so often happens in these cases, behind closed doors Sherry Dally was suffering emotional abuse and infidelity at the hands of her attractive husband. Michael had a mistress—former model and current Vons employee Diana Haun, and Diana was IN LOOOVE with Michael. Obsessed with Michael. Made Michael a body pillow with her PICTURE on it with Michael. Yeeikes. When we left you, Michael had made an abortive attempt to leave Sherry and move in with Diana, an attempt that fell flat when he realized how expensive a separation and divorce was going to be. He moved back in with Sherry, and Diana was NOT HAPPY. She was not happy at ALL. Sources:Oxygen's "Snapped: Killer Couples," Episode "Michael Dally and Diana Haun""Forensic Files," Episode "Sign Here""Wicked Attraction," Episode "A Lover's Betrayal"https://apnews.com/11b6e6509ca4ac57c3abe1847f9115d9https://medium.com/@ashleyhorsfall/ventura-crimes-the-murder-of-sherri-dally-38d12c7137dehttps://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1997-09-28-9709280200-story.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-mar-19-me-30460-story.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-apr-01-me-34881-story.htmlhttps://www.vcstar.com/story/news/columnists/2018/09/08/colleen-cason-sensational-ventura-murder-case-back-news/1213689002/Follow us, campers!Patreon (patrons get episodes a day early, an extra episode per month, and a free sticker): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfire Facebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The late, great British author Sir Terry Pratchett once wrote that treating people as things is the only sin there is. To a narcissist, people are things. If you’re a narcissist, you’re the only one who matters—the only one who’s really real. So other people exist to fluff up your ego and help you get what you want. Even if what you want is something so dark that it will destroy the lives of everyone around you, including the eager little puppet you manipulate into the job. Sources:Oxygen's "Snapped: Killer Couples," Episode "Michael Dally and Diana Haun""Forensic Files," Episode "Sign Here""Wicked Attraction," Episode "A Lover's Betrayal"https://apnews.com/11b6e6509ca4ac57c3abe1847f9115d9https://medium.com/@ashleyhorsfall/ventura-crimes-the-murder-of-sherri-dally-38d12c7137dehttps://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1997-09-28-9709280200-story.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-mar-19-me-30460-story.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-apr-01-me-34881-story.htmlhttps://www.vcstar.com/story/news/columnists/2018/09/08/colleen-cason-sensational-ventura-murder-case-back-news/1213689002/Follow us, campers!Patreon (patrons get episodes a day early, an extra episode per month, and a free sticker): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfire Facebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part 1 we introduced you to chronic spendaholic and solider-boy wannabe Mark Avery, who should have been happy as an ocean full of clams with his INHERITED, 600k a year job as trustee of the Smith family trust, but who instead managed to hemorrhage money so badly that he sunk himself into hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt in the first six months of the gig. And his buddy Rob Kane, or should I say “COMMANDER” Rob Kane, a wannabe Jason Bourne who liked to spin wild stories about his alleged “covert ops” work with the CIA and FBI. When these two put their knuckle-heads together and started fantasizing about creating their very own air force, they set about bilking the Smith trust for all they could bilk, and the employees at their newly acquired aviation company were starting to feel like they were living in a bad movie. Suddenly there were guns everywhere, state of the art security, and talk of safe houses and terrorists and interrogations. It was all a bit…much. And nobody could figure out how much of it was real and how much was just a very expensive game of “Soldier Boy.” Join us now for Part 2 of this wild story.Sources:CNBC's "American Greed," Episode "Top Gun of Fraud"https://smithct.org/about-the-trust/may-and-stanley-smithhttps://www.courthousenews.com/13-years-for-52m-milking-of-widows-trust/https://www.justice.gov/usao-ak/pr/former-anchorage-prosecutor-sentenced-over-13-years-prison-massive-wire-fraud-and-moneyhttps://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SAN-FRANCISCO-Wealth-prestige-gone-a-lawyer-2588112.phpFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greed can be an unstoppable force. For some, money can become an addiction, just as insidious as the gnawing need for heroin or crack—and just as liable to send the addict into a headspace where nothing and no one else matters. Today we bring you the story of two greedy men. They were greedy for money, for sure. But for these guys, the money was just the beginning. Just the fuel they needed to keep their main obsession going: A fantasy life in which two losery schlubs got to play solider and spy. These guys wanted—NEEDED—to play “Top Gun.” Just like a couple of kids on the playground. The only difference was, these guys were playing with real airplanes. And millions of dollars of stolen money. Sources:CNBC's "American Greed," Episode "Top Gun of Fraud"https://smithct.org/about-the-trust/may-and-stanley-smithhttps://www.courthousenews.com/13-years-for-52m-milking-of-widows-trust/https://www.justice.gov/usao-ak/pr/former-anchorage-prosecutor-sentenced-over-13-years-prison-massive-wire-fraud-and-moneyhttps://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SAN-FRANCISCO-Wealth-prestige-gone-a-lawyer-2588112.phpFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 1 we began the terrifying story of a campaign of stalking, harassment and threats against Dave Kroupa and his ex-girlfriend Liz Golyar. Dave had met a smart, confident woman named Cari, and they were getting along great with a casual, mutually-agreed upon “no strings” relationship. But when Cari texted Dave to ask him to move in with her and he refused, the angry harassment began. And it escalated to a horrifying level when Cari burned down Liz’s house. Cari seemed to have abandoned her whole life in pursuit of her obsession with Dave—so much so that her family stopped hearing from her except for a few sporadic emails and texts. The only silver lining was that the stalking seemed to have brought exes Dave and Liz closer together, as their relationship reignited in the midst of their shared terror. How will all this end? Join us now for part 2 of Twisted: A Story of Stalking and Murder. Sources:Oxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Liz Golyar"NBC's "Dateline," Episode "Scorned"https://www.omaha.com/news/crime/judge-finds-shanna-golyar-guilty-of-first-degree-murder-in/article_50c7fec2-4089-11e7-9a4e-8f0f741d814f.htmlhttps://www.omaha.com/news/crime/woman-convicted-of-killing-impersonating-romantic-rival-asks-nebraska-supreme/article_104e6d58-6918-5fda-930c-d79d938ae511.htmlhttps://www.kearneyhub.com/news/state/supreme-court-rejects-appeal-in-bizarre-case-of-woman-who/article_ce39913e-e4fe-11e8-b0ec-5f51cd7e3668.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Love is one of the greatest things there is. But sometimes love can get warped into something else—something angry and possessive and tunnel-visioned. That something is obsession. And when true obsession takes root in the mind of a certain type of personality, everything else fades into the background and loses all importance. Anybody and anything in the way of the object of that obsession is gonna get whomped. Things can get real dark, real fast. Join us for a story about an obsession that left a big smoking crater in the lives of everyone involved. Sources:Oxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Liz Golyar"NBC's "Dateline," Episode "Scorned"https://www.omaha.com/news/crime/judge-finds-shanna-golyar-guilty-of-first-degree-murder-in/article_50c7fec2-4089-11e7-9a4e-8f0f741d814f.htmlhttps://www.omaha.com/news/crime/woman-convicted-of-killing-impersonating-romantic-rival-asks-nebraska-supreme/article_104e6d58-6918-5fda-930c-d79d938ae511.htmlhttps://www.kearneyhub.com/news/state/supreme-court-rejects-appeal-in-bizarre-case-of-woman-who/article_ce39913e-e4fe-11e8-b0ec-5f51cd7e3668.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for part 2 of this epic and disturbing story.Sources:https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/1982/december/rise-and-fall-of-a-north-dallas-cult-conscious-development/https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2014/06/d-magazines-40-greatest-stories-death-in-a-north-dallas-cult/https://truenoirstories.wordpress.com/2016/12/31/terri-hoffman/#:~:targetText=Murder%20of%20Jill%20Bounds,and%20became%20a%20popular%20psychologist.https://unsolved.com/gallery/charles-southern/Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cults are fascinating. Jonestown, Heaven’s Gate, Aum Shinrikyo, NXIVM. So often, people end up in these groups because they’re seekers, and they genuinely want to work toward a better world. Contrary to popular belief, people who end up in cults are often smart and well educated. Good people who march to a different drumbeat and have only the best intentions. But unfortunately, when a group dynamic forms around a charismatic and narcissistic leader, and people start molding their own realities to fit theirs, utopian visions can turn into dystopian realities. This is the bizarre story of a vision gone horribly wrong. Terri Hoffman didn't seem like a prophet, at first glance. She looked more like somebody's grandma. But for decades, Hoffman ran a cult called Conscious Development of Body, Mind, and Soul--but many of her followers ended up disenchanted with her. They couldn't help but notice that she seemed to be enriching her bank account more than she enriched people's lives. And it went deeper than that. Before Conscious Development finally fizzled out, Terri and the cult would be linked to sixteen murders, suicides, APPARENT suicides and disappearances. Was Hoffman responsible? Was she a prophet, or a predator? Sources: https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/1982/december/rise-and-fall-of-a-north-dallas-cult-conscious-development/https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2014/06/d-magazines-40-greatest-stories-death-in-a-north-dallas-cult/https://truenoirstories.wordpress.com/2016/12/31/terri-hoffman/#:~:targetText=Murder%20of%20Jill%20Bounds,and%20became%20a%20popular%20psychologist.https://unsolved.com/gallery/charles-southern/Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for part 2 of this macabre grab-bag of three cases. Book: Love Her to Death by M. William PhelpsOxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Rose Vincent and Mark Bowling"Investigation Discovery's "The Perfect Murder," Episode "Silent Killer"http://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/08/robert-girts-four-marriages-pair-of.htmlhttps://fox8.com/2015/12/18/former-parma-funeral-director-admits-to-poisoning-wife-will-be-released/Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Morticians. The gatekeepers to the ever-after. The ones who comfort our families, help plan our funerals, and spruce us up to face the world one last time. The vast majority of them are kind professionals who took up this tough line of work because they want to be there for people in their darkest hours. A small handful probably got into it because they enjoy the spooky atmosphere. Still harmless. But a tiny number of morticians have taken it upon themselves to create their own business rather than waiting for nature to take its course. Join Katie and Whitney for a grab-bag of three wild stories. Sources:Book: Love Her to Death by M. William PhelpsOxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Rose Vincent and Mark Bowling"Investigation Discovery's "The Perfect Murder," Episode "Silent Killer"http://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/08/robert-girts-four-marriages-pair-of.htmlhttps://fox8.com/2015/12/18/former-parma-funeral-director-admits-to-poisoning-wife-will-be-released/Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for part 2 of "Bad Romance: Three Cases of Love Gone Wrong." We continue the story of David Meza and Jay Merendino, and move on to the truly bizarre story of Sheila Davalloo, a woman who makes Glenn Close's Alex from "Fatal Attraction" look stable and relaxed. Sources:Books: Obsession by M. William Phelpshttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-doctor-ana-maria-gonzalez-angulo-gets-10-years-poisoning-n214221Oxygen's "Snapped," episode "Ana-Maria Gonzales-Angulo"https://truecrimedaily.com/2017/12/20/gay-porn-model-convicted-of-murder-and-conspiracy-with-pregnant-girlfriend-in-killing-of-wealthy-businessman/https://www.courthousenews.com/personal-lives-display-love-gone-bad-murder-trial/CNBC's "Deadly Rich," episode "The Boy Toy Killer"Oxygen's "Snapped," episode "Sheila Davalloo"Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Love is grand, or so they say. When it works out, it can be one of the greatest things in the human experience. Unfortunately, a lot of the time it doesn't work out. Sometimes it fails to work out in truly spectacular fashion. Join Katie and Whitney for three true stories of love gone horribly, horribly wrong. Case 1, "The Doctor," involves a level of deviousness we rarely see in would-be killers. This is a scary story of near-fatal attraction--and perhaps a bit of a cautionary tale about infidelity. Case 2, "The Con Man," is a nightmarish story of large-scale manipulation and personal betrayal on a truly breathtaking scale. Case 3, "The Schemer," is a story about obsession in its purest and most dangerous form. We hope you enjoy this first "grab-bag" episode! Sources:Books: Obsession by M. William Phelpshttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-doctor-ana-maria-gonzalez-angulo-gets-10-years-poisoning-n214221Oxygen's "Snapped," episode "Ana-Maria Gonzales-Angulo"https://truecrimedaily.com/2017/12/20/gay-porn-model-convicted-of-murder-and-conspiracy-with-pregnant-girlfriend-in-killing-of-wealthy-businessman/https://www.courthousenews.com/personal-lives-display-love-gone-bad-murder-trial/CNBC's "Deadly Rich," episode "The Boy Toy Killer"Oxygen's "Snapped," episode "Sheila Davalloo"Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Katie and Whitney for the conclusion of the twisting tale of Dr. Martin MacNeill. See description of Part 1 for list of sources.Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The MacNeill family was, to all appearances, perfect. There was beautiful and kindhearted mom Michelle. There were EIGHT bright and accomplished kids--some biological, some adopted. And there was the famiy patriarch, Dr. Martin MacNeill. A doctor AND a lawyer, Martin was handsome, brilliant, wealthy, and a devout Mormon--a bishop in his church. But behind closed doors, there was a toxic mess getting more poisonous every day. Dr. MacNeill had always had a dark side, ever since he was a kid. Now that dark side was starting to eclipse all remaining light. And Dr. MacNeill's secrets were about to make themselves known in the most sinister way. Join Katie and Whitney for a twisting tale of love, lust, fraud, and premeditated murder. Sources:Book: The Stranger She Loved by Shanna HoganABC's "20/20": The Perfect Nannyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bw41mu251Mhttps://www.deseret.com/2017/7/21/20616225/martin-macneill-s-prison-death-officially-ruled-a-suicideFollow us, campers! Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Katie and Whitney for part 2 of this bizarre story of manipulation and murder. Sources:Book: I'd Kill for You by M. William Phelpshttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/va-court-of-appeals/1204421.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-oct-16-na-sword16-story.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2003/09/09/va-scientists-killer-gets-life-sentence/97617817-bcd2-43e9-a806-168d8a18173c/Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

December 10, 2001. Leesburg, Virginia. Neighbors find the body of Dr. Robert Schwartz, a brilliant DNA researcher, lying in a pool of blood on his living room floor. He had been stabbed more than 25 times with a very large blade, and an X was carved into the back of his neck. Dr. Schwartz was, by all accounts, a quiet and mild-mannered scientist. Who could possibly hate him enough to do this? The investigation into this beyond-brutal murder would soon take a turn no one could have predicted. Detectives would soon find themselves delving into the lives of a group of fantasy-obsessed teenagers, the leader of which was the victim's own daughter. Join us for a wild-but-true story of vampire assassins, dragons, poison, and plotting.Sources:Book: I'd Kill for You by M. William Phelpshttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/va-court-of-appeals/1204421.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-oct-16-na-sword16-story.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2003/09/09/va-scientists-killer-gets-life-sentence/97617817-bcd2-43e9-a806-168d8a18173c/Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Katie and Whitney for the conclusion of this bizarre story, the first in our "Just Bananas" category. Sources: Book: September Sacrifice by Mark HornerTelevision shows: "Sins and Secrets," Episode "Albuquerque""Snapped," Episode "Linda Henning""I'd Kill for You," Episode "Killer Alien""American Justice," Episode "Traces in Blood"Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Albuquerque, New Mexico. September 11, 1999. Employees at a local bank call police in a panic. Their coworker and friend, Girly Chew Hossencofft, hasn't shown up for work that morning. Girly is in the midst of a nasty split from her abusive husband Diazien, and she recently asked her coworkers to call the police if she was even five minutes late to work. "If I don't show up," she said, "it means Diazien has done something to me." When police arrive at Girly's apartment, they find worrying signs--Girly isn't there, but her purse and keys are. And there's a big wet bleach stain on the carpet, and some blood spatter on the wall. When they try to locate her soon to be ex husband Diazien, they can't find him either. Join Katie and Whitney for a bizarre story of manipulation and murder. This one has every element of a movie-like murder case, and a few extras you'd never expect: Fringe science, aliens, conspiracy theories, scams, and a trio of killers so dumb that we'll all run out of marshmallows roasting them. Sources: Book: September Sacrifice by Mark HornerTelevision shows: "Sins and Secrets," Episode "Albuquerque""Snapped," Episode "Linda Henning""I'd Kill for You," Episode "Killer Alien""American Justice," Episode "Traces in Blood"Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us as we conclude the story of Matt Baker, a Baptist preacher with some seriously scary inner demons. Sources:Book: Deadly Little Secrets by Kathryn Caseyhttps://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Killer-s-in-laws-win-custody-fight-1468405.phphttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-mystery-dirty-little-secrets/https://www.wacotrib.com/news/crime/mistress-testifies-that-matt-baker-told-her-how-he-killed/article_07715ba9-d27f-576d-a040-e92024871725.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To his congregants at Crossroads First Baptist, Matt Baker was their charming, relatable young pastor. He was energetic, he was great at firing up the young people, and he was married to an equally energetic and charming young woman, Kari. They had two beautiful daughters. A picture perfect young family.But as every true crime obsessive knows, looks can be deceiving--and a mask of Christian piety can hide a dark heart, capable of unimaginable horror. Join us for part 1 of this incredible story of lust, lies, and murder. Sources:Book: Deadly Little Secrets by Kathryn Caseyhttps://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Killer-s-in-laws-win-custody-fight-1468405.phphttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-mystery-dirty-little-secrets/https://www.wacotrib.com/news/crime/mistress-testifies-that-matt-baker-told-her-how-he-killed/article_07715ba9-d27f-576d-a040-e92024871725.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices