True Crime Campfire

Killer Psyche is a new weekly true crime podcast from Wondery that explores the minds behind infamous killers and criminals. They cover high-profile cases that have shocked the world, and host Candice Delong uses her five decades of experience as a clinical psychiatric nurse and FBI Criminal Profiler to dissect the motivations and behaviors of the most terrifying felons in history. In a recent episode, Candace examines the mind of Ed Gein, the notorious murderer who inspired the movies "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho." Candace dives deep into Gein’s mind — and how his mental illnesses led to his obsession with grave-robbing and murder. This is just a preview of Killer Psyche, but you can listen to the full episode at http://wondery.fm/KP_TCCampfireBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1998, South Yorkshire residents Howard Walmsley and his wife Kathy were on top of the world. After years of financial struggle as they tried to get Howard's painting and decorating business off the ground, they finally hit a stroke of luck: Howard won the lottery. Kathy was thrilled at the thought of being able to get out from under their bills, take a lavish holiday, and spoil their friends and family. But there was one thing that plucked at the back of her mind: Howard would never be specific about how much he'd won. Why was that? Well, campers, Howard was lying through his teeth. He hadn't really won a single pound. He was about to drag his wife along on a bizarre, years-long con, a lie that got bigger and bigger by the day before finally crashing down around them. Join us for the story of one of England's most audacious scammers, a man who is currently a fugitive, wanted by the South Yorkshire police for fraud. Sources:Documentary film "The Lottery Liar"https://www.lottoexposed.com/lottery-conman-john-eric-wells-continues-pursuing-the-easy-life-in-vietnam/https://www.itv.com/thismorning/articles/i-was-conned-out-of-my-life-savingshttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10015394/lotto-faked-jackpot-hunted-conning/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7515013/Lottery-conman-accused-tricking-three-grandmothers-400-000-living-Vietnam.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-70362/Three-years-liar-invented-8m-lottery-win.htmlhttps://www.lottoanalyst.com/howard-walmsley-the-man-who-faked-winning-the-lotteryFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1997, 20-somethings Anu Singh and Joe Cinque were an up and coming young couple--Joe a successful civil engineer, Anu a law student at Australian National University, both smart and gorgeous. From the outside looking in, they seemed to be on top of the world. But there was a storm brewing behind the scenes. Anu was becoming more and more obsessed with a myriad of health problems that no doctors seemed to be able to find any evidence of. She was becoming more and more controlling and needy, demanding more than any partner could possibly provide. And the more she perceived Joe falling short of her expectations, the angrier she got. And when she got wind that he might be thinking of leaving her, a poisonous rage bubbled up inside her. This is the story of one of Australia's most bizarre murder cases, one that you'll be tempted to think we made up. But unfortunately, we didn't. Join us for a story of love, betrayal, revenge...and the starkest example of the "bystander effect" you may ever see. Sources:VICE: https://www.vice.com/en/article/nneypm/why-a-beautiful-promising-law-student-killed-her-boyfriend-by-forced-heroin-overdoseMurderpedia: https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/singh-anu.htmNZ Herald: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/joe-cinque-murder-law-students-chilling-warning-before-fatal-canberra-dinner-party/IIMCHOGQTVRCLOZ52BJYHESMOY/TV show "Poisonous Liaisons," Episode "Toxic Affairs"TV show "Crimes that Shook Australia," Episode "Anu Singh"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s one of the most haunting murder cases you’ll ever hear about, and it takes place in a small town in Israel. Tair Rada was only 13-years-old when her body was found inside a locked bathroom stall. She was viciously murdered during a school day, and yet no one saw or heard a thing. The police arrested the janitor, Roman Zadorov, and he eventually confessed, but this was far from being the end of it. Based on the hit true-crime series from Netflix, the podcast "Shadow of Truth" will take you on a journey into one of the wildest and most contested murder cases in the history of Israel, as it reaches its final resolution, 15 years after it all started. Listen to Shadow of Truth http://wondery.fm/SOT_TrueCrimeCampfirBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For our third annual Halloween special, we have the gorgeous and talented Shelby Scott, velvet-voiced host of Scare You to Sleep, a podcast that, while beautifully produced and hugely entertaining, might just make you wet yourself a little bit. Just a little bit, no big deal. It’s worth it. Shelby’s show is the gold standard in horror podcasts, but she’s also a true crime buff. So since it’s Halloween, and we have the Princess of Darkness gracing us with her presence today, we decided to pick two extra-terrifying cases to do together. We’re not gonna lie to you, campers. These are dark. First is one of the most horrifying cases we've ever heard of--a ritualistic, random double murder in one of the most tranquil neighborhoods in Hollywood. Next is the still-unsolved abduction and murder of Dorothy Jane Scott. Dorothy disappeared from a parking lot after weeks of creepy phone calls from a stalker who threatened to "cut her into bits." You also get a bonus at the end of this episode: A peek at our "TCC Unplugged" post-show chat, normally for Patreon subscribers only. It's unedited, unscripted--just Katie and Whitney recapping the episodes.Sources:Reelz' "Demons in the City of Angels," Episode "The Studio Steps"https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152966332/morley-hal-engelsonhttps://www.dailybreeze.com/2008/04/05/ex-marine-sentenced-to-life-for-slayings/https://www.hermistonherald.com/news/suspect-in-grisly-murders-had-troubled-history/article_f57e82d9-2487-5616-b602-e73a79d616f5.htmlhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-04-05/former-marine-jailed-for-beheading-screenwriter/2393828https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Leeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Dorothy_Jane_Scotthttps://www.crimetraveller.org/2020/10/the-tragic-death-of-dorothy-jane-scott/https://www.talkmurderwithme.com/blog/2020/2/22/dorothy-jane-scotthttps://www.newspapers.com/clip/10010932/dorothy-jane-scott/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_John_BardoShelby Scott's shows:Scare You to Sleep: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sNFsS8B0qvIg1jK0Vo7Ns?si=d31eb69f48f14d97&fbclid=IwAR0bnwXFmuZdAbWgavvZpQfa246OFQITjVu_mnLU7T0mIp4P0tZyKso4iWM&nd=1Mediums: https://open.spotify.com/show/3uxUNb7B8L8IMyywbkmUdL?si=ac1a1bb1e9f340f8&fbclid=IwAR1vos1y_QA_FEIOtId_al-s9owKRiRSmxsOykPWx-aXo-2vHk4zV-OIs6M&nd=1Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When we left you at the end of part 1, taxidermy enthusiast, landlord and former bullfighter Charles Albright had begun living a double life. By day, a loving and gentlemanly boyfriend, a considerate friend and a fun-loving softball teammate. By night, a regular in the red-light districts of Dallas—sometimes kind and generous to the sex workers he encountered, sometimes cruel and sadistic. And in December of 1990, the brutal murder of one of those woman had just rocked the community to its core. Mary Pratt had been beaten and shot, and her killer had left a disturbing signature: He’d removed her eyes with surgical precision. As Dallas investigators began their hunt for the killer, they had the sinking feeling that a monster like this doesn’t tend to stop with just one. And they were about to find out how right they were. Join us now for part two of this bizarre true story.Sources:Skip Hollandsworth, Texas Monthly: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/see-no-evil-3/Mara Bovson, Daily News: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/dallas-eyeball-killer-murdered-women-removed-eyes-article-1.3769218https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/albright-charles.htmhttps://www.oxygen.com/mark-of-a-killer/charles-albright-eyeball-killer-serial-killer-sex-workersdallas-texas-90sBritish true crime show "Born to Kill," episode "Charles Albright"Oxygen's "Mark of a Killer," episode "An Eye for Murder"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Albrighthttps://www.audacy.com/krld/articles/news/dallas-historys-notorious-killer-of-prostitutes-has-diedhttps://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/dallas-eyeball-killer-murdered-women-removed-eyes-article-1.3769218https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/lucille-baller-rapping-dallas-police-lt-regina-smith-suspended/2070872/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A small town cop known as “GI Joe” is gunned down in a swamp in the summer of 2015 and quickly becomes a martyr in the national media. But when a dogged investigator and his team set out to get justice, they uncover unsettling secrets about Joe, the local police department, and the village of Fox Lake. From Wondery, the makers of The Shrink Next Door and Dr. Death comes the third season of Over My Dead Body: Fox Lake. Hosted by Matt Baglio.Listen to Over My Dead Body: https://wondery.com/shows/over-my-dead-body/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the early 90s, the city of Dallas was thrown into a nightmare. Women started turning up murdered, with a bizarre signature facial mutilation unlike anything detectives had ever seen before. As fear grew in the streets, the killer moved confidently among his pool of potential victims—savvy but vulnerable women who had turned to sex work to survive. No one could have predicted that the predator they were hunting was anything but the typical profile of a killer. A Renaissance man, a brilliant pianist and painter with a reputation as an old-school gentleman…and an astute student of human anatomy. This is the story of one of the most unexpected monsters in U.S. history. Sources:Skip Hollandsworth, Texas Monthly: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/see-no-evil-3/Mara Bovson, Daily News: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/dallas-eyeball-killer-murdered-women-removed-eyes-article-1.3769218https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/albright-charles.htmhttps://www.oxygen.com/mark-of-a-killer/charles-albright-eyeball-killer-serial-killer-sex-workersdallas-texas-90sBritish true crime show "Born to Kill," episode "Charles Albright"Oxygen's "Mark of a Killer," episode "An Eye for Murder"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_AlbrightFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the winter of 2002, Dennis White suddenly found himself in a bizarre predicament. His prominent Long Island psychiatrist, Dr. Richard Karpf, seemed to be unraveling: showing up to appointments looking disheveled and distracted. Dennis was concerned about the doctor he'd come to trust over the past six years. But he had no way of knowing what would happen when, one afternoon, he offered Dr. Karpf a listening ear. Seething over a recent conflict with a female patient--and still angry about a whole series of grudges from his past--Karpf began to pull Dennis into an elaborate and terrifying revenge plot involving a gun, a silencer, a murderous dinner party, ravenous sharks, and a bizarre theory of murder as a therapeutic tool. Sources:NBC's "Dateline," Episode "Murder on the Mind"NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/10/nyregion/authorities-say-li-psychiatrist-told-patient-of-plot-to-kill-6.htmlhttp://psychwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/NY Post: https://nypost.com/2004/07/02/psycho-shrink-guilty-l-i-doctor-avoids-jail-in-slay-plot/https://psychrapereporter.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/ny-state-refuses-to-reinstate-psychiatrist-richard-karpf/https://www.legalrightsadvice.com/psychiatrist-threatens-rampage/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Few things are more devastating than a loved one going missing. On The Vanished podcast from Wondery, host Marissa Jones tells stories of missing persons that have gone overlooked by mainstream media. She gets the story from friends and family of the missing person, and frequently talks with law enforcement and others close to the case. This is just a preview of The Vanished, but you can listen to the full episode at https://open.spotify.com/show/2yOiTki10BkHXkDisfTPT9Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're giving you a sneak peek at another one of our Patreon-exclusive episodes! This was our patrons-only from July. Usually we just do regular TCC episodes for our Patreon extras, but sometimes we like to mix things up and do something different. For this episode, we decided to let Katie take a dive into her very favorite pool--weird internet drama. We bring you two true crime-adjacent stories: Tumblr blogger Sixpenceee, who got into hot water with her fans for an array of reasons, including offering unqualified mental health counseling, and admitting that her family owned child slaves in India. And a dust-up in the online witch community that participants ended up calling Boneghazi--a New Orleans witch picking up actual human remains at a local cemetery and offering to ship the bones to anyone who might be interested in using them for "curse work." Wow.The internet is a mad, mad world, innit?Sources: ●https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/boneghazi-tumblr-witch-arrested-human-bones/●https://www.saveourcemeteries.org/●https://www.nola.com/news/courts/article_c0486bc0-2698-5dae-a810-0713f75d8db3.html●https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/stealing-human-bones-boneghazi●https://softyuri.tumblr.com/post/135415156346/no-i-am-not-digging-up-fucking-graves-jfc●https://www.vice.com/en/article/vv7mk3/tumblr-devolves-into-literal-witchhunt-over-alleged-bone-thief●https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/03/cops-bust-tumblr-witch-over-boneghazi.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nineteen year old Martre Coles was an aspiring artist with dreams of designing video games and making a life with his girlfriend Ashlynn. He'd had a rough few years since the sudden death of his mom, but things started looking up in the spring of 2017, when he found out he'd been accepted to a prestigious art and design program at Florida's Full Sail University. Martre was ready to leave home and take off full speed in the direction of his dreams. But then, on the day he was scheduled to leave, he disappeared without a trace. As the investigation unfolded, it became increasingly clear that someone had been luring Martre into a trap. Secrets were about to come to light that would stun everyone who knew and loved Martre, and reveal one of the strangest, most elaborate murder plots the state of Virginia had ever seen. Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Killer Motive," Episode "The Art of Death"Investigation Discovery's "Deadly Women," Episode "Dangerous Liaisons"https://roanoke.com/13-year-old-witness-testifies-in-case-where-victim-was-suffocated-and-stuffed-in-rubber/article_6e3ac164-5356-553e-87dd-8cbfeadaeae0.htmlhttps://www.oxygen.com/killer-motive/crime-news/denise-gay-kills-and-dump-body-of-boyfriends-son-martre-colesFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the fall of 2011, Jason Hachmeister came home to find his 58 year old mother, Sheila, brutally murdered on her bedroom floor. Detectives quickly discovered that Sheila had been living something of a double life over the past few months, chatting with a much-younger online boyfriend who seemed almost too good to be true. She had also been seeing another boyfriend in real life--one her family much preferred to the mysterious Mr. Perfect from the internet. But Sheila couldn't seem to tear herself away from her online love. As they began to unravel Sheila's personal life, investigators would have to determine which part of her life had turned deadly: her internet romance, or the "real" people around her. Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Web of Lies," episode "Divorced and In Danger"https://www.kscourts.org/KSCourts/media/KsCourts/Advance%20Sheets/SupremeCourtVol311No3.pdfcjonline.com/article/20150721/NEWS/307219789https://www.kake.com/story/34846002/kansas-supreme-court-hears-convicted-killers-child-porn-appealFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gallaudet University is one of the world’s most prestigious schools for the deaf and hard of hearing. For the gifted few who pass the exclusive admissions process, Gallaudet is an oasis—a center of learning, a place of infinite possibilities, a home away from home. It’s a place where they can celebrate deaf culture, network with some of the best minds in the country, and feel a deep sense of belonging. But during a four-month period in the fall and winter of 2000-2001, that sense of security was shattered, as a brutal killer stalked the dormitory halls. Everyone at Gallaudet was forced to confront the terrifying possibility that the killer was one of their own. Before the nightmare ended, two students would be dead, lives and reputations would be ruined, and a killer no one saw coming would be unmasked. Sources:David Van Biema, Time magazine, "Murder in a Silent Place": http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,130940,00.htmlJeff Truesdell, People Magazine, "Who Killed Two Students at a Famed College for the Deaf?"Investigation Discovery's "People Magazine Investigates," episode "The Sound of Silence"Investigation Discovery's "Murder U," Episode "Signs of Murder"Investigation Discovery's "On the Case with Paula Zahn," episode "Gallaudet Murders"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A big Halloween party at an apartment complex in Redmond, Washington. Themed rooms and costumed partygoers. But by the end of the party, one of the hosts is dead. The police look to the partiers as the prime suspects: was it the guy in the devil mask, the bank robber, the construction worker? As investigators comb through forensic evidence, witness testimony, DNA, and even consult with a psychic, they zero in on one suspect in particular. But for what reason? Host and reporter Matthew Shaer (Over My Dead Body) returns to the scene of the crime, speaks with everyone about a night that still haunts them years later. It’s a series about race and policing, mislaid justice, cutting-edge science, and the kinds of weighty choices that cops and prosecutors make every day -- choices that, once made, are difficult to reverse.https://wondery.com/shows/suspect/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So, campers, today we’re excited to have a special guest with us. I’m sure most of you are familiar by now with the “Dirty John” story, either because of the six-part LA Times podcast or the TV series with Eric Bana and Connie Britton. They tell the story of con man and serial predator John Meehan, who seems to have devoted his entire life to using and abusing other people, especially women, to satisfy his drug addiction and his sadistic desire for control. Today we’re joined by Debra Newell, whose life with John Meehan inspired the podcast and the miniseries. Debra has written a new book, along with veteran true crime writer M. William Phelps. It’s called Surviving Dirty John: My True Story of Love, Lies, and Murder, and Debra is a woman on a mission: To educate us about predators like John and how to protect ourselves from them. That is a goal that is dear to our hearts here at True Crime Campfire, so we’re thrilled to do what we can to help her get her message out. Sources:Surviving Dirty John: My True Story of Love, Lies, and Murder by Debra Newell, with M. William PhelpsPodcast "Dirty John," LA TimesDocumentary "Dirty John: The Dirty Truth"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s a Latin phrase, “Fortune favors the bold.” Con artists understand that better than anyone, I think. It always takes some degree of boldness to do what they do, from Bernie Madoff’s billion dollar Ponzi scheme to the three-card Monte guy on the street. But once in a while, we get ourselves a true master of the art—a con artist so audacious, so arrogant, so bold that they leave everyone they meet feeling like they just got swept up in a hurricane. We’re about to tell the story of one of the most outrageous con games ever played in this country—an unlikely con made even more bizarre by how completely people fell for it. Sources:Mark Seal, Vanity Fair: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/10/how-the-fake-saudi-prince-anthony-gignac-was-exposedhttps://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/10/he-actually-believes-he-is-khalid-the-odyssey-of-a-counterfeit-saudi-princeTom Huddleston Jr. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/how-fake-saudi-prince-anthony-gignac-conned-investors-out-of-millions.htmlCNBC's "American Greed," Episode "The Fake Prince's Royal Scam"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1930s Philadelphia, men all over town were dying—some in strange accidents, and some of a swift, excruciating illness. Their widows were devastated, of course—but it being the Great Depression and all, they were somewhat comforted by the substantial payouts they received from their late husbands’ life insurance plans. In medical examiners’ offices across the city, one death certificate after another was stamped “Natural Death” or “Accident.” One family doctor after another signed off: So sad, but these things happen. Nothing suspicious here. And in the cellar of one tailor shop, candles and skulls lined the walls. Incantations whispered through the air as little glass vials were carefully filled with deadly poison. The City of Brotherly Love? Not today. Sources:Poison Widows by George CooperRachel Snyder: https://vtuhr.org/articles/10.21061/vtuhr.v5i1.43/print/David Lohr, True TV, "Philadelphia's Poison Ring"Jim Goad, Thought Catalog: https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2019/12/witchs-brew-how-the-philadelphia-poison-ring-exploited-unhappy-wives-and-killed-100-people/https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bolbermorris1.htmInvestigation Discovery's "Most Evil," Episode "Gangs"Investigation Discovery's "Deadly Women," Episode "Brutal Brides"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Washington, D.C. has a long history of frauds and fantasists, people who showed up out of nowhere claiming to be somebody important, somebody rich, somebody royal. And people believed them—let them into the inner circle, invested money with them, gave them a seat at the table—only to find out later that they’d been had. That’s bad enough when all you lose is money, or a little bit of your pride. Far worse when your heart is involved. This is the bizarre story of Viola Drath, one of D.C.’s most respected players, a brilliant woman who was ahead of her time. Not the sort of woman you’d expect to fall victim to a breathtaking fraud. But as we’ve seen before on True Crime Campfire, even the smartest people can be taken in by clever acting and relentless charm. Join us for this true story, recently made into the movie "Georgetown" with Annette Bening, Vanessa Redgrave and Christoph Waltz.Sources:NY Times, Franklin Foer. The Worst Marriage in Georgetown. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/magazine/albrecht-muth-and-viola-drath-georgetowns-worst-marriage.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viola_Herms_DrathInvestigation Discovery's "Deadline Crime with Tamron Hall," Episode "The House on Q Street"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the mid-90s, a spate of bizarre robberies caught the attention of police in Houston, Galveston, and Las Vegas. The perpetrators were a pair of 30something women who met their victims through dating ads. The women forced the men to strip at gunpoint, handcuffed or tied them up, then ransacked their homes. In only two months' time, they amassed nearly a quarter of a million dollars in cash and stolen goods. Who were these lady bandits, and what motivated them to drop their seemingly normal lives for a secret life as outlaws? Join us now for a wild story of robbery, revenge, and rebellion. Sources:https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/13/us/unlikely-suspects-are-sought-in-thelma-and-louise-robberies.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-09-03-mn-41917-story.htmlhttps://www.houstonpress.com/news/thelma-louise-and-sybil-6572010Canadian Broadcasting Service (CBC), "72 Hours True Crime," Episode "The Game"Investigation Discovery's "Tabloid," S1, Episode "Dressed for Revenge"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

George Bernard Shaw once said that it’s not really power that corrupts people. It’s the other way around. Well, he said it fancier than that, but that was the gist. We all want power, to some degree. Physical strength, sexual prowess, political sway. Most of us don’t let it control our lives, eat away at our humanity to the point where it’s all we care about. But for some of us, power is kinda like steroids. It makes us big and strong, but it’s addictive and the side effects can be murder. Sources:Scoundrels to the Hoosegow by Morley Swingle, chapter "Millionaire Murderer"https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/court-of-appeals/1994/17970-1.htmlInvestigation Discovery's "Killer Bods," episode "Fit for Murder"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anger is a double-edged sword. When it’s justified, and properly channeled, it can be a powerful force for positive change. But often, anger is like a strangling vine, winding its way around us, choking us with rage until we can’t see straight, can’t think straight, can’t tell right from wrong. It’s powerful stuff. And when anger flames out of control, it doesn’t matter how smart we are, or how much good we may have done in our lives up til now. If we let it overtake us, we’re going to leave ashes in our wake. Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Sins and Secrets," Episode "Fresno"Lifetime's "Deadly Wives," Episode "Acid Lady"Oxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Larissa Schuster"https://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-acid-queen-murder-larissa-schuster-20201203-l3sgjjhjf5htnj3ponl2k76zva-story.htmlhttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1557281.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/schuster-larissa.htmFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So campers, when we left you at the end of part 1, college-bound Jennifer Bailey, her boyfriend, high school senior, reincarnated executioner and wannabe vampire Paul Henson, Jr., and best friend Merrilee, were hatching a plot to murder their parents. In their minds, this was the only way for them to stay together in this life and the next—and y’know, avoid homework and chores. Hardworking single mom Susan Bailey had no idea what they were planning as she worked double shifts to pay for Jennifer’s school. Join us now for part 2 of this bizarre true story.Sources:Let's Kill Mom by Donna FielderInvestigation Discovery special, "Let's Kill Mom'https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/affidavits_4_teens_planned_to_kill_n_texas_mom/1838185/https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/lets-kill-mom-behind-the-disturbing-susan-bailey-murderFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adolescence is a pretty wild ride. On the one hand, we’re starting to move past childhood, where make-believe takes up a ton of our time. But we’re still far enough out from adulthood that we can still get pretty wrapped up in fantasy. And when you combine a child’s ability to blur the line between real and make-believe with a young adult’s hormonal grumpiness and frantic desire for independence, you can end up with a recipe for nastiness. Sources:Let's Kill Mom by Donna FielderInvestigation Discovery special "Let's Kill Mom"https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/affidavits_4_teens_planned_to_kill_n_texas_mom/1838185/https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/lets-kill-mom-behind-the-disturbing-susan-bailey-murderFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Osho said of enlightenment, “You have to walk, and create the way by your walking; you will not find a ready-made path. It is just like the sky: the birds fly, but they don't leave any footprints. You cannot follow them.” I think this is probably true. But that doesn’t stop us from trying our damnedest to find that ready-made road to the truth. And as we’ve seen before on True Crime Campfire, there’s no shortage of self-proclaimed gurus, teachers and self-help experts who claim they can lead us there. Sometimes, following them is harmless. Sometimes it’s even beneficial. But sometimes, if we get swept up in the teachings of the wrong kind of person, we can end up following the leader right over a cliff. Sources:Documentary "Enlighten Us"Oxygen's "Deadly Cults," Episode "Spiritual Warriors"Investigation Discovery's "Deadly Devotion," Episode "Fatal Healing"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Arthur_Rayhttps://nypost.com/2009/10/19/mystics-past-is-guru-some/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our neighbors. We see them every day, usually just for a few moments—long enough to say hi as we head inside with our groceries, or out to walk the dog. For those of us who live in apartments, we’re sometimes uncomfortably close to each other’s lives: sharing cooking smells, overhearing intimate moments, getting annoyed by small inconveniences. Such close proximity, for total strangers. And as much as we may come to know about the small details of our neighbors’ lives—which night of the week they make curry, which day they wash their clothes—we have no way of knowing what’s going on behind closed doors. Or behind their eyes. Usually it’s nothing to worry about. But sometimes…Sources:https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/the-collected-writings-of-stephen-mcdaniel/https://www.macon.com/news/special-reports/lauren-giddings-murder/article28616875.htmlhttps://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/the-plot-thickens-say-hello-to-hacksaw-mcdaniel/?rf=1https://abovethelaw.com/2014/04/you-are-the-devil-law-grad-pleads-guilty-to-dismembering-classmate/?rf=1https://www.wvgazettemail.com/ga-police-seek-remains-of-dismembered-law-grad/article_5a7a38c9-d8b5-59aa-ab38-ee9ac93758bc.htmlhttps://www.macon.com/news/special-reports/lauren-giddings-murder/article28616902.htmlhttps://www.macon.com/news/local/crime/article222386260.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you believe in love at first sight? What about love at first sound? The sound of a soft, sexy voice, that is. There's something uniquely intimate about a phone conversation, especially when you're having it late at night. There's anonymity because you can't see each other, but there's intimacy too. You can bond quickly, share secrets you'd be too scared to share face to face. How many of us have had one of those marathon, up-til-dawn phone sessions with a new love interest? How many of us have fallen asleep while still on the line? Soo sexy. Sexy enough, perhaps, to cloud your judgment. The guy in tonight's story found that out the hard way. Join us for a wild story about a manipulator who was years ahead of her time.Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Evil Stepmothers," Episode "Deadly Role Play"https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1988-11-02-8803040310-story.htmlhttp://miamiheraldstore.mycapture.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=1980532&CategoryID=58643&ListSubAlbums=0Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today you get a sneak peek at what our Patreon-exclusive episodes are like. This was last June's patrons-only offering. We do one of these every month, just for our Patreon angels!Today we've decided to zero in on a subject that comes up all the time on our show: Intuition. That “gut feeling” that tells us our best friend’s new boyfriend is a wrong ‘un, our kid’s new basketball coach is creepy, we should have this Uber driver pull over and let us out…right now. I’m sure you’ve heard us mention former Secret Service agent and security expert Gavin de Becker’s book The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals that Protect Us from Violence. It’s basically the True Crime Campfire sacred text, and today’s episode will be a sort of “Cliffs Notes” version, with some true crime tie-ins and personal stories mixed in.Sources:The Gift of Fear by Gavin de BeckerFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The longest tournament chess match ever recorded happened in Belgrade in 1989. It lasted 269 moves and took over 20 hours to complete. Strategy can take time. Some killers lash out in the heat of passion, but others take their time. They may want to toy with their victim for a while first, ratcheting up the torment bit by bit until finally it’s time to pounce. Or they may be biding their time to make sure every game piece is perfectly placed before they make their final move. Whatever the reasons, sometimes murder is a long game. Sometimes all this strategizing pays off, and the killers walk away free. But other times, a player might be supremely confident that she’s made all the right moves, but overlook something crucial and end up losing big. Join us for a bizarre story of stalking and murder. Sources:https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/stout-anne.htm#:~:text=Supreme%20Court%20upholds%20Stout%20murder%20conviction&text=Stout%20was%20convicted%20following%20a,term%20later%20that%20same%20year.https://missoulian.com/news/local/darby-woman-charged-with-murder-takes-the-stand/article_1f5286ef-913f-5969-ba4a-7a0763ccc66d.htmlNBC's "Dateline," Episode "The Box"Oxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Anne Stout"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s an old saying that if you want something done right, you better do it yourself. But for some people, DIY murder just isn’t right for them. Maybe they’re afraid to get their own hands dirty, maybe they know they’d be the prime suspect if their target were to meet with an unfortunate incident—there are any number of reasons why a prospective killer might turn to a hitman. But as we’ve said before on True Crime Campfire, there are some real pitfalls to contracting out your murder plots. We’re about to tell you two stories that illustrate that in vivid technicolor. Sources:https://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/dalia-dippolito-may-have-tried-to-kill-him-but-michael-dippolito-is-no-saint-6343534https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20170722/16-year-sentence-follows-emotional-grueling-dalia-dippolito-hearing/1https://cbs2iowa.com/news/local/official-murder-for-hire-coralville-inmate-died-of-heart-diseaseABC's "20/20," Episode "Down Payment on Death"Oxygen's "Murder For Hire," Episodes "Crocodile Tears" and "All or Nothing"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The legend of the Pied Piper of Hamelin is generally known as a fun story—a court jester-looking dude in bright colored clothes, playing a flute and jauntily leading the town’s children off into the sunset. Y’know, good times. Dancing and singing and whatnot. The real story may be a lot grimmer—in fact, some historians think the Piper led the youths of Hamelin to be abducted or slaughtered. We don’t really know for sure. But we’re pretty sure about this: When a full-grown adult starts collecting troubled kids around him, telling them tall tales and making them wild promises, alarm bells ought to start ringin’. Sources:Orlando Sentinel: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1990-09-04-9009040217-story.htmlhttps://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1998-04-13-9804130053-story.htmlhttps://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1998-03-11-9803110636-story.htmlOxygen's "Snapped: Killer Couples," episode "Kosta Fotopoulos and Deidre Hunt"https://medium.com/true-crime-addiction/the-hunter-killer-club-narcissist-true-crime-bb501e3854efhttps://murderpedia.org/male.F/f/fotopoulos-konstantinos.htmFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the HBO series The Sopranos, retired mob boss Uncle Jun says, “Some people are so far behind in a race that they actually believe they’re leading.” He was talking about hubris, I think, the temptation to convince yourself you’re king of the mountain, when really everybody’s snickering behind your back. What goes hand in hand with that kind of arrogance, of course, is a seething well of jealousy and paranoia. Commit the unforgivable sin of being cooler, or smarter, or stronger than me, and I won’t be able to rest until I’ve cut you down to size. Sources:Movie "Casino"Movie "Goodfellas"Movie "The Godfather"Salon, "Killing Jared" by Vanessa GrigoriadisInvestigation Discovery's "Murder Among Friends," Episode "Dead Lift"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Humans have always been seekers of truth. We’re not always great at finding it, but we’re always lookin’. And however noble that quest might be, our desire to understand the hows and whys of human existence can sometimes leave us open to scams, cons, and cults. Give us a confident, charismatic personality with the right buzzwords and promises of enlightenment, and we’re much too eager to hand over our judgment…and our wallets. Today, our special guest Noah Lugeons—cohost of God-Awful Movies—will help us pull the lid off three especially noxious cults. Well, two cults and one cult-lite. Sources:https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhisubbaraman/facebook-jilly-juice-cabbage-epperlyDr. Phil show, Episode “Jilly Juice: Claims to Cure Cancer, Regrow Limbs” https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/candida-and-fake-illnesses/https://mylespower.co.uk/2018/09/30/the-science-behind-the-jilly-juice-protocol-2/https://au.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/australian-cults-universal-medicine-14682/Australian show "Sunday Night," Episode "The Cult"https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/universal-medicine-cult-founder-exposed-as-charlatan/news-story/626fe650621ee65ba16b1a7af2f62aa7https://www.universalmedicine.com.au/questions/why-it-quite-clear-unimed-not-culthttps://www.docdroid.net/nkbk7PV/an-introduction-to-mother-of-all-creation-with-the-first-contact-ground-crew-pdf#page=3https://gurumag.com/crestone-cult-love-has-won-leaves-man-to-die-in-desert/Dr Phil show, Episode "Love Has Won Exposed"https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/11/love-has-won-cult-protests-hawaii/Lovehaswon.orgFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So campers, when we left you at the end of part 1, Belle Gunness’ 16 year old daughter Jennie had just gone missing, along with a revolving door of mysterious male “cousins.” She used her beautiful La Porte Indiana farm to lure bachelors to their eventual doom. It seemed like nothing could stop her. Join us for part 2 of this bizarre true story--you won't see the ending coming.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Margaret Atwood wrote, “When we think of the past it's the beautiful things we pick out. We want to believe it was all like that.” I think that rings true. To many, the thought of the past evokes nostalgia. Some might look at a black and white photo of a poodle skirted girl sharing a milkshake with her beau and they might yearn for a simple time, but they’re missing the “whites only” sign just out of frame. Human history is filled with just as much strife and injustice as we see on the news today. The killer we’re discussing today is a reminder that brutality is not a modern problem, it’s a human one. Sources:Hell's Princess by Harold SchechterFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Imagine trying to go about your life with the knowledge that somebody wants you dead. What would it do to you, day in and day out? Could you go for a walk without fearing that your enemy might be around the next corner? Could you drive home from work without startling at every flash of new headlights behind you? Could you sleep without nightmares? This is the controversial, bizarre, confounding story of a good man hounded by fear. Whichever side of the debate you end up on, that’s what you’ll find at the center. And if you’re anything like us, you’ll be thinking about this one long after the episode is over. Sources:Autopsy report: https://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BCME_autopsy.pdfCBS "48 Hours" transcript: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-curious-case-of-col-shue-26-03-2009/4/"Psychological autopsy:" https://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/psychological_autopsy.pdfJohn Lordan's "BrainScratch" coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJQy_21POv4&t=4sPeople magazine coverage: https://people.com/archive/mishap-or-murder-vol-60-no-7/WebSleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/tx-col-philip-shue-54-san-antonio-16-april-2003.95137/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Some murders are born of sudden passion. Rage leaps up like a flame and then subsides, too late to undo the bloody damage done in that moment. But other murders are more of a slow burn--weeks or months of smoldering anger, stoked by careful planning. Every detail meticulously considered, for maximum damage, minimum risk. This is the story of one of those murders, and of a killer so clever, they came within the barest whisper of getting away with it.Sources:Oxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Shannon Crawley"Investigation Discovery's "Hear No Evil"NBC's Dateline, Episode "Internal Affairs"https://caselaw.findlaw.com/nc-court-of-appeals/1589180.htmlhttps://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7092468/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When we left you at the end of Part 1, Colton “the Goshfather” Pitonyak was awaiting sentencing on a drug possession charge, partying like his plane was going down, and trying to coax Jennifer Cave back into his life. Colton’s new hookup buddy/ego fluffer, Laura Hall, was none too pleased about that. But Colton had never managed to squelch his obsession with Jennifer. And as he descended further and further into a life of speed addiction and violent fantasies, and Jennifer tried harder and harder to save him, they both drew closer to the point of no return. Join us for part 2 of this bizarre true story.Sources:Descent Into Hell by Kathryn CaseyCBS's "48 Hours Mystery," Episode "In Too Deep"https://caselaw.findlaw.com/tx-court-of-appeals/1578792.htmlhttps://www.fox7austin.com/news/15th-anniversary-of-murder-of-jennifer-cavehttps://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/person-involved-in-2005-murder-of-jennifer-cave-released-on-parole/269-527943075Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of the famous lines from the movie Fight Club’s tortured protagonist is “I felt like destroying something beautiful.” Most of us would never want to do such a thing. We see something beautiful and we want to draw closer to it, encourage it to grow, remember it forever. But for a certain kind of damaged soul—jealous, angry, resentful—it goes another way. They’re drawn to beauty, sure, but in the way a moth is drawn to a flame. When they get too close, they can’t handle it. It burns them. Makes them painfully aware of their own insecurities. They want to be close to it, but they resent it, too. And if they can’t possess the beautiful thing, they need to see it broken. It’s the only thing that will put out that raging fire inside them. Sources:Descent Into Hell by Kathryn CaseyCBS's 48 Hours Mystery, Episode "In Too Deep"https://www.aymag.com/murder-mystery-the-murder-of-jennifer-cave/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When I was little, I collected holograms. I was fascinated by how their iridescent images could change depending on the angle of the light. It seemed like magic. It’s less fun when real life starts to imitate this specific kind of art, though. When you start confidently down a path based on information you believe is solid…and then you find the path shifting and changing beneath your feet. Suddenly, you can’t trust anything you believed in an hour ago. You can’t even trust your own eyes. How do you solve a murder when everywhere you look, it’s smoke and mirrors? Sources:https://caselaw.findlaw.com/sd-supreme-court/1431479.htmlhttps://www.yankton.net/news/article_fe14cf00-d1dc-51f1-9e78-152e30fa15ab.htmlhttps://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna29125204https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/state-and-regional/twin-brothers-sentenced-in-pierre-womans-death/article_6f108ddc-b574-534f-b557-cc39cf809631.htmlOxygen's "Framed By the Killer," Episode "A Lover's Frame"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected]: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/true-crime-campfire/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the summer of 2018, the whole country was riveted to the story of a young, pregnant mom named Shan’ann Watts. Shan’ann and her two little daughters, Bella and Cece, went missing from their comfortable Colorado home one morning. And as the story unfolded, it became increasingly obvious that Shan’ann’s husband Chris was responsible for their disappearance. As bad as we all thought it might be at the time, we had no idea how bad it really was. Turned out, Chris had murdered his wife and two daughters, in pretty much the most appalling way imaginable. The Chris Watts case has been a national obsession ever since, but Chris is by no means the only example of this kind of horror. There have been many others, and sadly, there will probably be many more. And when we start to unravel these cases, a chilling pattern begins to emerge. What could possibly motivate a person to murder their whole family? Sources:https://www.insider.com/chris-watts-murder-timeline-2018-12https://www.biography.com/news/chris-watts-wife-daughters-murder-mistress-confession-timelineLive Abuse Free, Chris Watts playlist (multiple videos): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyndzKXJdMA&list=PLbXDQtH_u9kxjZVPzIFFbmyx5YP3FlSGpInvestigation Discovery's "Family Man, Family Murderer," documentary about the Watts caseOne Last Kiss by Michael W. CuneoInvestigation Discovery's "American Monster," Episode "Live By the Sword"https://www.bcu.ac.uk/news-events/news/characteristics-of-family-killers-revealed-by-first-classification-studyhttps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/nov/22/christopher-foster-news-crimehttps://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/neil-entwistle-sex-lies-how-2480709British television show "Faking It: Tears of a Crime," Episode "Neil Entwistle"True Story by Michael Finkelhttps://www.laurarichards.co.uk/what-are-the-signs-of-coercive-control/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eric Maisel once said that ambition is vital, but dangerous—capable of driving people over the edge. That’s especially true when you add greed to the equation, and a relentless desire for status. For some, what other people think of them is the only thing that matters. That tiny little inner voice that never felt good enough starts to drown out all the other voices, even the ones who say “I love you.” Nothing’s more important than looking like you have more stuff than anybody else. Nothing matters more than having a seat at the table with the “right” sort of people. And if the “wrong” sort try and get in your way, well—things can get dangerous.Sources:The Palm Beach Murder by Marion Collinshttps://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna12009956https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1990-07-15-9002040058-story.htmlhttps://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1998-04-29-9804280344-story.htmlhttps://www.ajc.com/news/local/triggerman-socialite-sullivan-murder-released-from-prison/Pwc3DKaD8LzVfzYu5JiNVN/https://www.palmbeachpost.com/article/20150607/NEWS/812063065https://www.e-reading-lib.com/chapter-amp.php/147530/50/the-best-american-crime-writing-2005.htmlhttps://blackthen.com/lita-mcclinton-murdered-white-husband-attempt-reach-social-elite-status/Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In nature, there’s a phenomenon called disruptive coloration. It’s when an animal or insect is multicolored to match its environment—thereby camouflaging itself. It’s especially useful, as I’m sure you can imagine, for predators. For example, the orange and black on a tiger allows it to blend in with the scenery and lie in wait for prey. Humans haven’t evolved this nifty little trick, but some of us have mastered something pretty similar. If you’re a predatory human, you might decide to adopt a disguise to put potential victims at ease. A preacher’s wife, for example. Or a prominent, well dressed business owner. You might develop your people skills, so that anybody who visits your home will feel like royalty. And all the while, behind your smiling eyes, the predator is waiting to pounce. Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Deadly Secrets," Episode "The Truth Hurts"Oxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Emma Raine"BET's "Murder in the Thirst," Episode "Who Killed the Preacher?"Sun-Herald, Robin Fitzgerald: https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article110147657.htmlAP News, Kevin McGill: https://apnews.com/article/7651272f4d04427dbf3e8315a77c5b60Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard Rohr once wrote, “The human ego prefers anything, just about anything, to failing or changing or dying.” And he was just talking about your garden variety, Joe Average ego. Not the supercharged, steroid-pumped kind that our villain today was cursed with. What’s at the core of an ego like that is a quivering little wad of insecurity, so fragile that the tiniest disagreement can feel like a humiliating slight. And all the ego can do to make its sad little wad feel better is get angry…or maybe take revenge. And if it decides to carjack the rest of the brain and go on a joyride, everybody within a hundred miles better run. Sources:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/02/11/a-loaded-gunhttps://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/us/21bishop.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/bishop-amy.htmInvestigation Discovery's "Fatal Encounters," episode "Deadly Genius"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michel de Montaigne once wrote that obsession is the wellspring of genius and madness. If today’s story isn’t a flawless example of that, then I don’t think there’s ever been one. It’s almost a cliché that genius is often tinged with something dark. Geniuses do tend to be obsessive people, and surely by now we true crime fans have seen what obsession can do to human morality. It can squash it like a bug, more or less. In the story we’re about to tell you, obsessive genius crashes head-on into naïve idealism, and eleven years later, the people who witnessed it are still picking the shrapnel out of their hair.Sources:https://torontolife.com/city/todd-howley-the-killer-inside-muskoka/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/algae-at-centre-of-mysterious-crime/article29578436/ID’s “A Lie to Die For,” episode “Killer Inventor”Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part 1 we introduced you to Herb Baumeister: Husband, father of three, prominent Indianapolis businessman…secret necrophile. By the early 1990s, Herb and his wife Julie were practically printing money with their chain of thrift stores, and they’d recently moved into a spectacular mansion on acres of beautiful woodland. It was the perfect place for the kids to run and play…and even more perfect for Herb’s favorite form of recreation. And in the summer, when Julie and the kids left for their vacation house in Lake Wawasee and Herb took to the Indy gay scene under the fake name “Brian Smart,” men started to go missing at an alarming rate. Join us now for part 2 of this chilling true story.Sources:You Think You Know Me by Ryan GreenA&E's "Investigative Reports with Bill Kurtis," episode "Secret Life of a Serial Killer"Various articles from this collection: https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/baumeister-herbert.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_BaumeisterFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We talk a lot about masks on our show. Most people wear them sometimes. We have our professional mask, our “make a good first impression” mask, our “fake it til you make it” one, when we don’t want anybody to know how anxious we are…But for most of us, the masks aren’t that different from our real personalities. Just a little more polished, maybe. Most of us don’t absolutely need the masks to survive. To avoid the horror and revulsion of our peers. To avoid prison. We hear it all the time on news reports about horror-movie style atrocities: He seemed like such a nice guy. He seemed so normal. He never even raised his voice. It’s unsettling, to realize how convincing a mask can be…even when what lies behind it is nothing short of monstrous. Sources:You Think You Know Me by Ryan GreenA&E's "Investigative Reports with Bill Kurtis," episode "Secret Life of a Serial Killer"Various articles from this collection: https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/baumeister-herbert.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_BaumeisterFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Small towns are interesting places. Everybody acts like they’re the “real” America—simple, safe places where life moves at a slower pace and everybody can trust everybody else. As true crime shows never tire of telling us, small town folks don’t even lock their doors. Crime just doesn’t happen there. Except of course, when it does. And then everybody talks about how the town has lost its innocence, and things will never be the same again. Not that some of that doesn’t have a basis in truth. But if you grew up in a small town, you know that’s not the whole story. See, people are people, no matter where they call home. And in a small town, where everybody tends to keep a close eye on everybody else’s business, and gossip can ruin a reputation faster than a summer storm can wreck a cookout, people can have an awful lot of incentive to keep their secrets…well, good and secret. And when something threatens to dredge up an inconvenient truth that they want to keep hidden, people can get desperate. And a desperate person is one of the most dangerous creatures on earth. Sources:Investigation Discovery's "Hometown Homicide," Episode "Hold the Line"Discovery's "FBI Files," Episode "Fatal Friendship"https://www.leagle.com/decision/19941206894sw2d31211197https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Martha_Doe_RobertsPatreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The movie “The Room” is an interesting study. If you’ve never seen it, you should. Director (and I put that in air quotes) Tommy Wiseau, who may actually be an alien or some kind of undead creature from a parallel universe, managed to create a movie so bad it’s almost good. Or at least, it’s so bad it’s vastly entertaining, and not like any other movie you’ve seen. You could probably say the same about the famously bad Hollywood filmmaker Ed Wood. Some people are just dipshits—but once in a while, somebody comes along who elevates dipshittery to a whole new level. And all we can do is marvel at the spectacular, flaming train wreck they created. Sources:Oxygen's "Snapped," episode "Heather Miller"Oxygen's "Snapped," episode "Teresa Stone"https://people.com/archive/love-her-to-death-vol-54-no-22/?xid=popsugar&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=feed&utm_content=link_2https://www.mcall.com/news/mc-xpm-2000-11-14-3332610-story.htmlhttps://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Practical-Magic-Inspires-Real-Murder-Plot-43463671https://abcnews.go.com/US/marines-murder-exposes-wifes-affair-pastor/story?id=20373010https://www.examiner.net/article/20120621/NEWS/306219710Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We like to think we can trust ourselves—that our read on a situation, whatever that situation may be, is correct. We need to believe we’ve got this, we’re seeing the world as it really is, nobody’s gonna get the drop on us. But sometimes, we find ourselves through the looking glass. Sometimes, just when we think we’ve got a handle on a situation, everything shifts like the changing images of a hologram, and our whole world rocks on its foundations. Sometimes we have to face the fact that nothing is what it looks like. Sometimes we have to admit we were wrong—and if we don’t right that wrong, it will spell disaster for everyone around us. One of the people in this story found that out the hard way. Sources:Invitation to Murder by Gail Abbott ZimmermanCBS's "48 Hours," episode "Invitation to Murder"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [email protected] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices