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#20 — Activate Your Customers with PLG Simple Onboarding Techniques ft. Yaakov Carno

Yaakov Carno, a strategist in PLG and user onboarding, clarifies the intricacies of Product-Led Growth in this insightful podcast. He addresses the pivotal role of user activation in SaaS success, combining theoretical insights with practical strategies. His expertise offers valuable takeaways for SaaS companies seeking to optimize their PLG approach.Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Castbox, Google and YouTube.Key Timestamps* (00:00) Introduction to the podcast; focus on PLG activation and customer retention.* (00:37) Introduction of Yaakov Caro, his background in PLG, SaaS startups, and his journey in PLG.* (02:12) Yaakov's transition from sales to PLG activation and his learning process.* (05:57) Discussion on market trends in PLG and its increasing significance.* (07:01) Explanation of PLG and its importance in the current market.* (09:47) Challenges in SAS companies regarding activation and the 'insecure product trap'.* (13:47) Strategies for personalizing the user journey using data and analytics.* (17:10) Creating effective onboarding experiences and common pitfalls to avoid.* (22:12) Advice for early-stage companies on implementing PLG and managing features.* (26:59) The role of appropriate friction in onboarding for user attachment.* (30:09) Transitioning from traditional SLG to PLG models and associated pitfalls.The Activation Challenge: Where Many StumbleActivation is the pivotal moment in a customer's journey, yet it's a common stumbling block. Carno identifies key challenges:* Feature Overload: Overwhelming users with too many features at once.* Unclear Value: Failing to communicate the product's value proposition clearly.* Ineffective Onboarding: An onboarding process that doesn't guide users effectively.* Ignoring Feedback: Overlooking valuable user feedback that can enhance the product.A Roadmap for Early-Stage SaaS CompaniesFor early-stage companies, Carno provides a roadmap to enhance user activation:* Simplify the user experience to highlight core functionalities.* Articulate a clear value proposition from the start.* Develop an intuitive onboarding process.* Regularly incorporate user feedback.* Educate customers to maximize product utilization and engagement.Measuring Success and the Art of Strategic FrictionCarno stresses the importance of measuring activation success through metrics like engagement levels and conversion rates. Interestingly, he advocates for strategic friction in onboarding—introducing elements that deepen user engagement and filter out less committed users, enhancing overall user investment in the product.Concluding Wisdom: Avoiding Pitfalls and Staying AdaptableIn his closing remarks, Carno reflects on common onboarding mistakes:* Overcomplexity: Making the onboarding process too complicated.* Disregarding User Feedback: Missing opportunities to align the product with user needs.He emphasizes staying adaptable and user-focused. For further insights and guidance, Carno remains accessible through his blog and social media channels, continuing to support SaaS companies in steering the PLG landscape.Where to Find the Guest:* LinkedIn: Yaakov Carno* Substack: Product Led GrowersWhere to Find the Host:* LinkedIn: Gururaj PandurangiResources* Product-Led Onboarding OS: https://www.valubyl.com/onboarding-os * PLG Visual Value Pack: https://www.valubyl.com/_files/ugd/198bb4_6468d652cf4c477aaec885a367a10e54.pdf* Easiest way to get new users to activate: https://yaakovcarno.substack.com/p/the-easiest-way-to-get-new-users * Why friction can help users convert quicker: https://yaakovcarno.substack.com/p/plgrowers-28-why-friction-can-help * How to figure out what users want: https://yaakovcarno.substack.com/p/how-to-figure-out-what-your-users * How to personalize user onboarding: https://yaakovcarno.substack.com/p/easy-to-use-template-for-personalizing Enjoyed this episode? Don't miss out on our insightful conversations and expert insights. Stay curious, stay informed, and keep thriving! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Jan 27, 202434 min

#19 — Evolution of SDR role in a Product-Led Era ft. David Zeff

In this Thrivecast episode, David Zeff, CEO of Whistle, joins host Gururaj Pandurangi to explore the evolving role of Sales Development Representatives (SDRs) in the SaaS industry. David brings a rich background in tech startups to discuss how sales strategies are adapting in a product-led business landscape.Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YouTube.Key Timestamps* (00:00) Introduction to David Jeff and Whistle's role in tech startups.* (02:05) Inspiration behind Whistle's inception.* (03:25) Evolution and significance of SDR role in product-led growth.* (05:08) Strategic importance of SDRs in SAS companies.* (07:20) Impact of PLG on SDR strategies in SAS space.* (10:04) Role of SDRs in PLG companies and sales personalization.* (13:20) Emerging roles and sales strategies in PLG-driven firms.* (16:00) Differentiating product-led sales assist from traditional SDRs* (18:00) Details of product-led sales assist role and structure.* (21:05) Understanding customer journey in PLG strategies.* (24:06) Key responsibilities and challenges in product-led sales-assist.* (27:30) Team structuring and reporting in PLG-centric organizations.* (30:02) Insights from failed PLG implementations.* (32:05) Final thoughts on successful PLG infrastructure building.The Inception of Whistle David's journey to founding Whistle reflects his deep involvement in building and scaling SDR and sales functions in various tech companies. His experiences led him to identify the demand for a refined approach to sales development, especially in product-led companies.Why Product-Led (PL) Sales Assist?* Identifying the Need: David highlights the emergence of the Product-Led Sales Assist role, differentiating it from traditional SDRs, and emphasizing its importance in companies shifting focus from product-centric to sales-driven approaches.* The Role's Significance: The PL Sales Assist role plays a pivotal part in this transition, bridging the gap between product engagement and sales processes.Optimal Timing for PL Sales-Assist IntegrationDavid advises that the integration of PL Sales-Assist teams should align with specific stages of a company's growth. He stresses the importance of these teams fitting seamlessly into the existing company structure and their interaction with other departments.Defining the PL Sales-Assist Role and Its KPIs* Unique Responsibilities: David details the specific tasks of PL Sales-Assist, including their involvement in customer engagement and nurturing leads, which differ significantly from traditional SDR roles.* Key Performance Indicators: The success of PL Sales-Assist is measured by metrics such as customer engagement levels, conversion rates, and contribution to sales pipeline growth.Essential Skills for PL Sales-Assist:* Core Skills: Effective communication, customer empathy, and product knowledge are crucial for PL Sales-Assist, as outlined by David.* Engagement Strategies: These professionals employ unique strategies to interact with customers, focusing on enhancing the sales process through personalized engagement and understanding customer needs.Looking Towards the FutureDavid discusses the changing landscape of Go-To-Market strategies in the SaaS sector. He highlights the shift from a focus on rapid growth to sustainable, profitable growth models. In this evolving context, he emphasizes the critical role of personal engagement in Product-Led Growth (PLG) strategies, especially in maintaining and expanding client relationships. This approach, he suggests, is vital for sales teams to bridge the trust gap in a market increasingly leaning towards PLG.Where to Find the Guest:* LinkedIn: David Zeff* Company website: www.whistle.ltd Where to Find the Host:* LinkedIn: Gururaj Pandurangi This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Jan 20, 202432 min

#18 — PLG Infrastructure: Building the Foundation for PLG Success from Startups to Scaleups ft. Hila Qu

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YouTube.In this insightful episode, we explore the world of Product-Led Growth (PLG) Infrastructure, a key element for SaaS companies at various stages of their journey. Featuring the seasoned expertise of Hila Qu, this podcast provides a comprehensive overview of the intricacies involved in constructing a solid PLG foundation, vital for fostering sustainable growth in the competitive SaaS landscape. This podcast builds upon Lenny's Newsletterblog post fromHila Qu 曲卉 titled - Five steps to starting your product-led growth motion and focuses mostly on the PLG Infrastructure that Startups need to build and manage for implementing growth strategies.Early Stage: Finding the Product-Market FitAt the onset, startups grapple with identifying their market fit. Here, PLG plays a pivotal role, offering a low-touch yet high-impact approach to understanding and catering to customer needs.* User Experience Design: Ensuring the product is intuitive and offers immediate value.* Data-Driven Strategy: Utilizing Salesforce for CRM and Amplitude for analytics to translate user interactions into actionable insights.* Team Composition: Forming a dynamic, cross-functional team combining product design, marketing intelligence, and data analysis.Growth Stage: Refining and ExpandingAs companies transition to the growth stage, the focus shifts to refining the PLG strategy. This phase is marked by enhanced customer engagement and sophisticated product offerings, laying the groundwork for a broader market reach.* Deeper Data Analysis: Using sophisticated analytics tools for an in-depth understanding of customer behavior.* Strategic CRM Integration: Managing and nurturing the expanding customer base.* Monetization Approaches: Experimenting with various models to identify the most effective strategies for different segments.Scale Stage: Maximizing Reach and EfficiencyIn the scale stage, SaaS companies fully leverage PLG infrastructure to maximize market penetration. Advanced tooling and strategies come into play, streamlining processes and scaling operations efficiently.* Enhanced Tooling and Data Platforms: Implementing CDPs for a centralized customer data view and leveraging AB testing for product optimization.* Strategic Team Composition: Forming dedicated growth teams and emphasizing the leadership role in championing PLG.* Data-Driven Decision Making: Adapting and evolving strategies effectively based on market and user feedback.Throughout these stages, an underlying shift towards a hybrid growth model emerges, blending the strengths of PLG with Sales-Led Growth (SLG) strategies. This nuanced transition forms the backbone of sustainable and scalable growth in the SaaS domain.Key Timestamps:* (00:02) Introduction and the role of PLG in AI product development.* (01:01) Overview of Hila Qu's background and her insights on PLG infrastructure.* (02:39) Discuss the trends in PLG infrastructure and its adoption by early-stage startups.* (04:01) Challenges faced by early-stage startups in implementing PLG and the necessary infrastructure.* (07:37) The importance of PLG in the scaling process of startups.* (10:00) Debunking the myth that PLG should start only after achieving PMF (Product-Market Fit).* (12:26) Recommendations for early-stage startups on building a PLG infrastructure.* (17:09) Team composition and leadership roles in implementing PLG strategies.* (21:13) Transitioning from the early stage to the scaling phase in PLG implementation.* (26:08) Advanced tooling and strategies for startups in the scaling phase.* (31:25) Final insights and closing remarks.Where to Find the Guest:* LinkedIn: Hila QuWhere to Find the Host:* LinkedIn: Gururaj Pandurangi This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Jan 13, 202438 min

#17 — Layering PLG over SLG: Challenges and Mitigations ft. Chetan Rawal

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YouTube.In this episode, we're joined by Chetan Rawal to dissect the intricate process of integrating Product-Led Growth (PLG) strategies atop existing Sales-Led Growth (SLG) frameworks. Chetan shares his perspective on why and how these two approaches should be managed by distinct teams and leadership within an organization. For further insight, don't miss Chetan's recent post, "Common Myth Amongst Sales-led Orgs: Stagnating Growth?", which explores some of the misconceptions surrounding SLG. He dissects the idea that while PLG and SLG might initially compete, they eventually find synergy. He advocates for the establishment of PLG teams that operate with the agility and innovative spirit of a startup, emphasizing the need for rapid iterations and a focus on product evolution.Here's What's in Store for You:[0:42] Chetan introduces the primary challenges of transitioning from SLG to PLG.[6:36] Analysis of which teams struggle the most with the adoption of PLG.[9:09] Chetan's perspective on how deal sizes and sales structures influence the move to PLG.[11:04] Exploring the role of Customer Success Managers (CSMs) and designers in PLG.[12:20] Understanding the difference between good and bad tech debt in PLG.[13:36] How practically every department grapples with the shift to PLG.[16:45] Strategies for hiring and positioning for PLG readiness.[18:38] The significance of generalists in the initial phases of PLG adoption.[19:19] Necessary changes in monetization models for a PLG approach.[23:38] Case studies of companies transitioning from SLG to PLG.Identifying the ChallengesLeadership Influence* Accepting New Principles: The switch to PLG requires leaders to evolve from a sales-first mindset to one that places the product and user at the forefront. It's about embracing a philosophy where product quality and user satisfaction drive growth.* Instilling a PLG Mindset: Founders and executives must champion this shift, promoting a culture that values product innovation and customer experience as the new engines of revenue and expansion.Resource Allocation* Funding the Transition: Redirecting the financial stream is pivotal. It involves moving the budget away from traditional sales departments to areas essential for PLG such as product development, user interface enhancement, and customer support.* Securing Commitment: A major part of this transition is convincing stakeholders of PLG's long-term benefits. Detailed projections and success stories from PLG approaches can help underline the potential for sustained growth and profitability.Departmental ChallengesEngineering: Building for the User* User-Centric Development: Engineers are tasked with shifting their focus from feature-heavy releases to building functionalities that directly address user needs, enhancing the user experience.* Iterative Feedback Loop: Incorporating user feedback into the development cycle becomes paramount, demanding more agile and responsive engineering practices.Product Management: Steering the Vision* Data-Driven Decisions: Product managers must utilize product usage data to inform the roadmap, ensuring that enhancements are aligned with user behavior and preferences.* Cross-Department Collaboration: They need to facilitate collaboration between departments, making sure that product developments are in sync with marketing, sales, and customer service initiatives.Marketing: Communicating Value* Educating Users: Marketers need to pivot from broad messaging to educating potential users on the product's value, utilizing insights from user data to tailor communication strategies.* Driving Adoption: The goal shifts from lead generation to driving product adoption and user retention, emphasizing the product's practical benefits and user success stories.Sales: Adapting to a Consultative Role* Guiding, Not Selling: Sales teams adapt to a more consultative role, helping prospective users understand how the product can solve specific problems rather than pushing for a hard sell.* Leveraging Usage Data: Utilizing product usage data to identify upsell and cross-sell opportunities, providing tailored solutions based on how customers are using the product.The Role of Analytics* Informed Strategic Moves: Across all departments, the analysis of product usage data is not just a task—it's the cornerstone of strategic decision-making, providing insights into user engagement, feature popularity, and the overall health of the product.The PLG Implementation ChecklistCase Studies of TransitionAdobe and Figma* Approach: Adobe's acquisition of Figma showcased a strategic shift towards PLG.* Focus: Emphasizing user-centric design tools and collaborative features.* Outcome: Enhanced market position in the design space with a broader, more engaged user base.Microsoft and OpenAI* Collaboration: Microsoft's partnership with OpenAI represents a significant move into AI-driven PLG.* Integration: Leveraging OpenAI's capabi

Jan 6, 202426 min

#16 — Is there a prescriptive guide to implementing PLG? ft. Mario Araujo

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YouTube.Summary:Join us for an insightful discussion with Mario Araujo, the Vice President of Growth at Graphext, as we explore the complexities and evolving maturity of Product-Led Growth (PLG). We examine the evolution of PLG, its adoption challenges, and the journey towards achieving high maturity, enriched by insights from Mario's extensive experience in the field.Here's what's in store for you:(00:00) Welcoming Mario Exploring His Journey in Product and Growth Advisory(01:00) Discussing the Evolving Field of PLG and Mario's Role in It(03:00) The Dynamics of PLG for Startups Challenges and Initial Steps(08:00) Key Strategies for Early PLG Adoption and Success Indicators(18:00) Progressing to Advanced PLG Identifying Maturity Indicators(25:00) Defining High PLG Maturity Data-Driven Decisions and User Insights(30:00) Personal Insights Mario Shares Quotes and PLG Failures(34:00) Contact and Further Engagement with MarioAbout the Speaker:Mario Araujo, as the Vice President of Growth at Graphext, brings a wealth of knowledge and experience in product growth. In his current role, Mario focuses on simplifying data exploration and creating predictive models. His authority in the PLG community is further bolstered by his previous transformative work at Outsystems and the insights shared on his 'PLG False Starts' podcast.Where to Find the Guest:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/growthmario/ Where to Find the Host:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Dec 13, 202338 min

#15 — Modern GTM for Developer focused companies ft. Achintya Gupta

Listen now on Spotify, Apple, Overcast, Google and YouTube.Join us in this episode of Thrive Cast as Gururaj Pandurangi sits down with Achintya Gupta, the visionary Co-Founder of Reo.dev. In an industry where understanding the developer's mindset is key, Achintya sheds light on the unique challenges of Developer Go-to-Market strategies. With a wealth of experience in fintech and developer tools, Achintya offers actionable insights into crafting GTM strategies that resonate with both developers and buyers. From discussing the success stories of HashiCorp, Elastic, and Confluent to highlighting the importance of data-driven decision-making and cross-departmental collaboration, this episode is a treasure trove for anyone looking to make an impact in the developer-focused product space.Here's what's in store for you:(0:00) Introduction and Background(3:59) Developer GTM: Overview(6:40) Challenges in Developer GTM(9:05) Developer vs. Buyer Motivations(10:51) Developer Experience Importance(14:15) Success Stories in GTM(18:30) Users vs. Buyers: Differences(20:00) Targeting Strategies(23:20) Avoiding GTM Mistakes(25:57) Closing Thoughts and AdviceAbout Reo.devReo.dev understands the unique needs and challenges of developers in the market. By providing revenue intelligence specifically tailored for DevTools and Developer Facing Marketing, Reo.dev ensures that developers have the necessary tools and insights to succeed in their buying journey. With a focus on Dev GTM and DevTool Sales, Reo.dev empowers businesses to effectively reach and engage with developers, ultimately driving revenue growth in this specialized market.Reo.dev : Revenue Intel for Developer focused Go-To-MarketWhere to find Achintya Gupta:https://www.linkedin.com/in/achintyagupta/ Where to find Gururaj:https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Dec 6, 202326 min

#14 — Implementing Self-Serve Monetization ft. Robin Gauvreau

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YouTube.Summary:Explore the innovative e-commerce strategies with Robin Gauvreau, Head of Product at Together.do, in this ThriveCast episode. Host Gururaj Pandurangi uncovers Robin's transition from HR to product management, the growing trend of self-serve signups, and how Together.do leverages Product-Led Growth (PLG). Learn about Robin's unique user engagement tactics and growth tools, including the "reverse trial" method.Here's what's in store for you:(00:00) Introduction and Background of Robin Gauvreau.(00:47) The Inception and Mission of Together.do.(02:07) Self-Serve Signups and E-commerce Impact.(04:14) Building Together.do: PLG and User Feedback.(05:40) Strategies for Growth and International Expansion.(09:51) User Acquisition and Engagement Techniques.(13:04) Monetization and 'Reverse Trial' Method.(17:27) Managing Product Features and User Experience.(21:59) Closing Thoughts and Advice for Product Leaders.Tools used by Robin:* Mixpanel for flows monitoring* Looker by Google for BI * Clarity by Microsoft for sessions recording * Olvy for feedback collection * Unrevealed for feature togglingAbout Together.do:Together.do is changing the e-commerce game with its Partnership Acceleration Platform. Based in France, it helps e-retailers find new customers through targeted partnerships. With features like finding new brands and tracking campaign results, it's a tool that's making a big difference for e-merchants. As they prepare to launch, Together.do is set to change how e-merchants partner up. Check them out at: https://www.together.do/ Screenshots (as mentioned in the podcast): Where to find Robin Gauvreau:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robingauvreau/Where to find Gururaj:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Nov 29, 202329 min

#13 — Trials and tribulations of PLG implementation ft. Aditya & Angad, Sumo Logic

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YouTube.Summary:In this episode of Thrivecast, we feature Angad Singh and Aditya Gaur from Sumo Logic, who offer their unique perspectives on adopting Product-Led Growth (PLG) within their organization. We focus on the journey from a traditional sales-led approach to a product-centric strategy, discussing the inherent challenges, effective strategies, and the critical role of elements like self-service and trial plans in shaping go-to-market strategies.Here's What You Can Expect:(00:00) - Introduction and Overview(01:01) - Angad Singh on Sumo Logic's Shift to PLG(03:32) - Aditya Gaur's Role in Engineering and PLG at Sumo Logic(05:22) - Challenges in Transitioning to PLG and Getting Buy-In(10:27) - Strategies for Aligning Product and Marketing Teams Towards PLG(14:16) - Revamping Self-Service and Onboarding for PLG(19:44) - Managing Free and Trial Plans, and the Approach to Freemium Models(23:00) - Recommendations for Industry Peers on Adopting PLG(26:53) - Automation and Management of Free/Trial Plans(30:04) - Discussion on Feature Access and Usage Caps in Freemium Models(34:22) - Future Directions in PLG and Sales Integration(36:30) - War Stories and Lessons Learned from PLG ImplementationAbout Sumo Logic:Sumo Logic is a cloud-based machine data analytics company focused on security, operations, and BI use-cases. The company provides a platform that enables enterprises to build, run, and secure their applications and cloud infrastructures. Sumo Logic is known for its innovative approach and has recently embarked on a journey to adopt a more product-led growth model, aligning their product development and marketing strategies to drive user engagement and growth.Get to Know Angad Singh & Aditya Gaur:* Angad Singh, Principal Product Manager at Sumo Logic, has been instrumental in the company's PLG transition, focusing on onboarding and user experience.* Aditya Gaur, Director of Engineering at Sumo Logic, has significantly contributed to the company's growth and PLG strategies.Where to Find Angad Singh & Aditya Gaur:* Angad Singh's LinkedIn* Aditya Gaur's LinkedInWhere to Find the Host:* Gururaj Pandurangi's LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Nov 22, 202339 min

#12 — How should early stage startups think of starting a PLG journey? ft. Maja Voje

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YouTube.Summary:Welcome to another episode of ThriveCast! Gururaj Pandurangi chats with Maja Voje, a renowned growth advisor with a global reputation. From her experiences with big names like Google and Rocket Internet to her much-anticipated upcoming book Go-To-Market Strategist, Maja offers a fresh look at product-led growth. In their chat, they discuss the ins and outs of growing a business, the challenges of pricing, and how to connect with users genuinely.Here's what you can expect:* 00:00 - Introduction to Maja and her work.* 02:03 - Discussion on how early-stage startups and technical founders should start thinking about PLG (Product-Led Growth).* 03:14 - Avoiding excessive customer calls and personal contact in the initial stages of a startup.* 04:03 - Gaining initial awareness for a self-serve PLG product.* 09:41 - Qualifying customers and inbound leads in a PLG model.* 15:22 - Customer conversations and making them more qualified.* 19:09 - Discussion on optimizing for adoption versus pricing.* 26:19 - Experimenting with pricing and willingness to pay.* 31:58 - Discussing 'try before you buy' models like free trials, freemium, or reverse trials.* 43:17 - Conclusion and how to reach out to Maja for more insights.Get to Know Maja Voje:Maja's time in the startup world is full of exciting stories. As a growth advisor recognized around the globe, her experiences range from working at tech powerhouses to sharing her expertise in her book that launches today! If you're interested in product-led growth, Maja's insights will not be missed.Where to find Maja Voje:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/majavoje/ Where to find Maja’s book:* Go-To Market Strategist: https://gtmstrategist.com/ * Grab your copy on Amazon now: https://a.co/d/1RgwkceAbout Go-To Market Strategist:The book "Go-To-Market Strategist" is an actionable guide designed to help readers achieve product-market fit. It features insights from over 50 industry experts, 135 practical frameworks, and 9 workshop templates. The book promises a step-by-step GTM strategy, hands-on experience from GTM experts, and confidence in decision-making through field-tested frameworks and models. It is written for pragmatists, aiming to take ideas to scalable growth, focusing on what is mission-critical and guiding readers from being overwhelmed to hyperfocused.Where to find Gururaj:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Nov 15, 202343 min

#11— How product-led should you be? ft. Yves Delongie

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and Youtube.In this exciting podcast, discover the fascinating world of Product-Led Growth (PLG) with our guest, Yves Delongie, Co-founder/CEO at journy.io, the end-to-end integrated PLG platform. In this episode, Yves Delongie unveils the strategies behind journy.io's groundbreaking approach to PLG and its profound impact on how businesses engage and retain customers. This podcast has been mostly inspired by Journy.io’s blog with the same name - How Product-Led should you be? The engaging conversation explores the future of customer-centric growth strategies and the pivotal role of data-driven insights. Whether you're a marketer, entrepreneur, or simply curious about the future of SaaS and PLG, this episode is a must-listen. Don't miss out on this enlightening discussion! Tune in now for insights, inspiration, and innovation.Key Takeaways from the podcast:* Product-Led Growth (PLG) is a data-driven, customer-centric approach to marketing and product development.* Understanding user behavior and tracking product engagement is essential for successful PLG. * journy.io provides an end-to-end integrated platform for PLG, helping businesses make data-driven decisions.* Personalization and targeted communication are crucial for user engagement and retention. * Insights into the future of PLG and the role of AI and automation. We touched on 3 predictions from Yves’ blog - The Future of Product Led Sales - 5 Predictions* Learn how journy.io is helping companies scale and optimize their PLG strategies.* Discover the benefits of aligning marketing, product, and customer success teams for PLG success.About Yves: Meet Yves Delongie, a dynamic leader and co-founder of journy.io, the end-to-end integrated Product-Led Growth (PLG) platform. With a proven track record, Yves has excelled in steering tech ventures across Europe and the EMEA region, taking on roles as GM, MD, and CEO. His expertise lies in orchestrating cross-functional teams spanning product development, marketing, sales, and customer success, all geared towards achieving strategic goals and driving revenue growth, thereby enhancing shareholder value. Join us as Yves Delongie shares his insights and experiences in the world of tech entrepreneurship and PLG on the podcast.About journy.io: journy.io is a B2B platform that uses machine learning-based Product-Led Growth (PLG) signals to help businesses identify, engage, and nurture high-potential customers. It integrates with existing customer tools like CRMs, MAPs, and Sales Engagement platforms, enabling companies to conduct rapid PLG experiments that drive substantial increases in net revenue. This innovative platform is revolutionizing the SaaS landscape, making it a game-changer for businesses looking to boost their bottom line.Visit journy.io to dive deeper into machine learning-based PLG!Where to find Yves Delongie:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yvesdelongie/ Where to find Gururaj:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Nov 8, 202331 min

#10 — OpenTHC's Self Service Journey: Innovation Through Open Source ft. David Busby

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast, Google and YoutubeSummary: Join us for an episode of ThriveCast where Gururaj Pandurangi has a candid chat with David Busby, the visionary behind OpenTHC. From the inception of OpenTHC to the intricacies of self-serve signups, David shares his journey, challenges, and experiences in the regulated cannabis space. Here's what's in store for you: * Getting to Know David: David introduces himself, his background, and what led him to create OpenTHC. * The Self-Serve Decision: David sheds light on why OpenTHC chose the self-serve signup route and how they attract and engage users. * Open Source Philosophy: The conversation turns to OpenTHC's unique approach to being open source, discussing why David chose to equip developers and build with a community-driven mindset. * Tech Talk: Gururaj and David discuss the technology that powers OpenTHC's self-serve mechanism and what sets it apart. * Monetizing OpenTHC: David touches upon their revenue model, offering insights into the potential of free trials and how they approach monetization. * A Fun Ending: David shares an interesting anecdote from his journey, adding a lighthearted touch to the conversation. Where to find David: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/djbusby/OpenTHC: https://openthc.com/contact Where to find Gururaj: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Nov 1, 202344 min

#9 — Why is PLG Trial Management difficult to implement? ft. Theo Ohene

Listen now on Apple, Overcast, Google and Youtube.Summary:Join us for an enriching episode of ThriveCast where Gururaj Pandurangi meets Theo Ohene, the revered growth advisor from London, UK. Theo is a growth Advisor to many startups around the world and a founder of Growth Roadmaps. Theo's extensive work with startups and deep insights into Product-Led Growth (PLG) trials, conversion, and strategic nuances, this episode promises a wealth of knowledge for its listeners.Here's what's in store for you:* Early-stage founders and PMF: Traverse the startup landscape with Theo and Gururaj as they discuss founders' intricacies, emphasizing the paramountcy of Product-Market Fit and strategies to attain it.* The Significance of Personalization: Theo highlights why tailoring user experiences based on their unique behaviors is essential for product success.* Onboarding Excellence: Delve into the world of user onboarding. Theo elucidates how gathering user goals and feedback can refine and customize the onboarding journey.* Deciphering Pricing Models: A pivotal business decision, Theo explores the factors influencing the choice between free trials, freemiums, or reverse trials and how each can impact user engagement and business growth.* Freemium Mastery: Discover how high-volume, mass-market products can benefit from a freemium model, with Theo sharing real-world success stories.* Business Acumen: Dive deeper into the strategic underpinnings of trial models. Understand the broader business implications and the operational nuances that go hand-in-hand.* Untapped Opportunities with Reverse Trials: Theo emphasizes the potential benefits of reverse trials, suggesting it as a promising avenue for businesses to explore, especially when data backs its efficacy.* Troubleshooting Trials: Navigate the complexities of recalibrating trials that don't hit the mark. Theo offers methodologies and tactics to optimize trials for better outcomes.Get to Know Theo:London-based Theo Ohene is a luminary in the startup ecosystem, renowned for his advisory practice and generous contributions to SaaS builders. With experiences ranging from e-commerce to high-volume SaaS ventures in Las Vegas, Theo’s journey offers many insights.Where to find Theo:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theoohene/Website: https://www.theoohene.com/ Where to find Gururaj:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Oct 25, 202338 min

#8 — Building Virality into Products ft. Brian Paget

Listen now on Apple, Overcast, Google and Youtube.Summary: Welcome to yet another insightful episode of ThriveCast! Join us as we sit down with Brian Paget, Founder of MeetMoji. Brian brings a wealth of experience in Strategy, Technology, and Marketing with big names like Amazon, SAP, Adobe, IBM, and venture-backed startups. In this conversation, we delve into effective strategies for fostering network effects and virality in product adoption. Brian emphasizes the significance of identifying and engaging "nodes," individuals or users who can champion a product and drive its adoption. We discuss the importance of adaptability and the necessity to learn from failures while striving for success. Join us as we uncover key takeaways from this conversation, shedding light on navigating the complexities of product launches and achieving sustainable growth.Here's what's in store for you: * Network Effects Are Vital: Building network effects is crucial for product success. To achieve this, you need both a network and nodes (individuals or users) to make it work.* Identify Nodes: In the early stages, focus on finding and engaging with nodes – those who will test your product, understand its value, and become champions.* Adapt and Iterate: The theory of network effects is one thing, but the practice is another. Be prepared to adapt and iterate as you go along because it's not an easy process.* Fake It Till You Make It: Don't be afraid to "fake it" initially. Brian emphasized that throughout his career, he often tried new products, failed, and learned from those failures. It's a valuable part of the journey.* Learn from Friendly Customers: Encourage friendly customers or partners to try your product early. They can provide valuable insights and help you understand how your product is being used.* Speed and Agility: The ability to adapt quickly is more important than sticking to a rigid plan. Be agile and make changes based on real-world feedback and usage.* Sharing Is Key: Encourage sharing among users. Products like Loom and Zoom succeeded by enabling users to share their experiences with colleagues, leading to viral growth.* Building a Network Is a Process: Building a network effect takes time. Tobi from Calendly's success story may seem like it happened overnight, but it actually took five years to gain momentum.* No One-Size-Fits-All Playbook: There's no fixed playbook for achieving network effects. It involves experimentation, learning, and adapting to your unique product and market.* Consider Writing About Your Insights: Gururaj suggests that Brian should consider sharing his insights through blogs or books, highlighting the valuable lessons learned in the conversation.About Brian: Brian Paget, the visionary Founder of MeetMoji, is a seasoned expert at the intersection of Strategy, Technology, and Marketing. With an illustrious career spanning industry giants like Amazon, SAP, Adobe, IBM, and successful ventures in the startup world, Brian brings a wealth of experience to the table. He's known for his strategic prowess in fostering network effects and virality in product adoption, emphasizing the importance of identifying and engaging key "nodes." Brian's adaptability, coupled with a profound ability to learn from failures, has propelled him to the forefront of the industry. Meet the driving force behind MeetMoji, Brian Paget, and witness innovation in action.About MeetMojiMeetMoji is all about turning your static PowerPoints into interactive and engaging presentations. With MeetMoji you simply upload your slides and unlock the ability to engage your audience during your presentation with live polls, word clouds, and engaging content like demos, videos, and more all without having to juggle multiple apps. Experience a better way to turn your average presentation, meeting, or workshop into a truly interactive experience with MeetMoji.Elevate your meetings today with MeetMoji!Where to find Brian Paget:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pagetbg/Where to find Gururaj:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Oct 18, 202329 min

#7 — Why is Product Messaging Important For Startups?

Listen now on Spotify, Apple, Overcast, Google and Youtube.Summary: Ready for another thrilling episode of ThriveCast? This time, Gururaj Pandurangi is welcoming Robert Kaminski, a seasoned pro in product marketing for early-stage B2B horizontal startups and a key player at Fletch. They'll be diving into the nitty-gritty of product messaging and positioning, exploring their importance, application, and the subtle elements that make all the difference. With Robert's rich experience and unique insights, you're sure to gain a solid understanding of how to shape your product messaging, set up effective positioning, and drive your startup's growth. Here's what's in store for you: * Breaking Down the Basics: We're going to unpack the core concepts of product messaging and positioning, showing you why they're crucial in the startup world. * Insider Strategies: Robert will share expert strategies for perfecting your product messaging and positioning, teaching you how to communicate your product's unique value like a pro. * Behind Robert's Success: Get a sneak peek into Robert Kaminski's unique approach to product messaging and positioning that's driven substantial growth for numerous startups. * Real-World Wins: We'll explore real-life examples and case studies, showing you how these strategies play out in practice. Gain insights into how startups have aced their product messaging and positioning. * Keeping Up with the Trends: Stay in the loop with the latest trends in product messaging and positioning. Get the scoop on what's working (and what's not) to help you plan your startup's messaging and positioning strategies. Get to Know Robert: Robert Kaminski is more than a seasoned product marketer and partner at Fletch; he's a driving force in the startup world, known for his work with early-stage B2B horizontal startups. His knack for developing Minimum Viable Positioning, turning that positioning into compelling messaging, and crafting engaging copy for startups sets him apart in his field. His insights, drawn from a rich career, are sure to enlighten and inspire. About FletchFletch PMM, headquartered in the bustling city of Austin, Texas, is a dynamic player in the Marketing Services industry. With a dedicated team ranging from 2 to 10 skilled professionals, including part-time roles, Fletch PMM is primed to make a significant impact. Established in 2023, their expertise lies in the domains of positioning, messaging, go-to-market strategies, product marketing, and serving the unique needs of SaaS and startup ventures. Fletch PMM's innovative approach is designed to assist startups by nurturing their growth journey through the development of Minimum Viable Positioning, seamless translation of that positioning into compelling messaging, and the creation of website copy that effectively communicates their brand's unique identity. To learn more and explore the world of Fletch PMM, visit their website at Fletch. Where to find Robert Kaminski:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heyrobk/ Where to find Gururaj:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Oct 11, 202330 min

#6 — Unveiling the Pillars of Customer-Centric Growth in PLG

Listen now on Spotify, Apple, Overcast and Youtube.Summary: Tune in to our latest podcast episode where Dr Else van der Berg, a leading expert in customer-driven strategies, elucidates the intricacies of product/market fit, growth optimization, and the power of customer insights for business success. This episode offers a deep dive into the criticality of knowing your target audience, strategically identifying opportunities, effective user research, and the implementation of growth frameworks. Get a glimpse of Dr Else's vast experience and learn how a customer-centric approach can stimulate significant growth and enhance your business's revenue potential. What you're going to love about this episode: * The importance of understanding customer jobs to be done * Methods to conduct effective customer interviews and gather valuable insights * The role of product-led growth (PLG) in startup success * Challenges and benefits of implementing PLG strategies * The significance of analytics and measurement in PLG implementation * The value of focusing on power users and churned users in product development * Considerations when choosing between PLG and sales-led growth (SLG) approaches * The role of audience segmentation and targeting in PLG About the Speaker: Dr Else van der Berg: An accomplished professional wearing many hats - a PLG expert, blogger, and product expert. Dr Else is driven by her passion for identifying and understanding target audiences, working with clients to craft compelling narratives, and developing must-have products that fuel word-of-mouth recommendations. About Sonderhouse: Sonderhouse: Based in Berlin, Germany, Sonderhouse is a consultancy firm that specializes in assisting startups and scale-ups achieve product/market fit and steer businesses towards market leadership. With expertise in areas like conversion rate optimization, customer journey analysis, and new market expansion, Sonderhouse aids businesses in achieving market leadership and increased revenues. Learn more about Sonderhouse on their website. Where to find Dr. Else van der Berg:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-else-van-der-berg-42b8b6a2/Where to find Gururaj:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/Thanks for reading ThriveStack resources! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Oct 4, 202325 min

#5 — A Deep Dive into Customer Journey Optimization

Listen now on Spotify, Google, Apple, Overcast, and Youtube.Summary: Strap in for an insightful episode of Thrivecast! Gururaj Pandurangi is getting together with Audrey Melnik, the go-to expert when it comes to customer journey optimization and an entrepreneur with many tricks up her sleeve. They're going to unravel the complexities of customer journey optimization, diving into the whys, the whats, and the hows. With Audrey's wealth of experience and unique insights, you're in for a treat. Get ready to level up your understanding of how to enhance customer satisfaction and supercharge business growth! What you're going to love about this episode: * Demystifying the Concept: We're breaking down the basics of customer journey optimization, shedding light on its importance in the business world today. * Strategies Uncovered: Audrey lets us in on expert strategies for mapping and optimizing customer journeys. If you've been looking for ways to boost customer experience, you don't want to miss this! * Audrey's Secret Sauce: Get a peek into Audrey Melnik's unique approach to customer journey optimization. Discover the strategies that have propelled her to the top of her game. * Real-Life Lessons: We're sharing tangible examples and case studies, so you can see these strategies in action. Gain insights into how businesses have transformed their customer journeys and the impact it's had on their performance. * Trend Tracker: Keep your finger on the pulse with the latest trends in customer journey optimization. Find out what's working, what's not, and how you can stay ahead of the curve. Meet Audrey: Audrey Melnik isn't just an entrepreneur; she's a maven in customer journey optimization. With her innovative approach to business growth and customer experience enhancement, she's a force to be reckoned with in the business world. Her experience and deep understanding of the industry make her a wellspring of wisdom you won't want to miss! Where to find Audrey Melnik:* Email: [email protected] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreymelnik/ * Website: https://www.unlockinggrowth.co/ Where to find Gururaj:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/Thanks for reading ThriveStack resources! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Sep 28, 202324 min

#4 — How does a Startup Implement Growth?

Listen now on Spotify, Apple, Google, Overcast, and Youtube. Summary: Welcome to another informative episode of Thrivecast! In this episode, our host Gururaj Pandurangi has a thoughtful discussion with Anuj Adhiya, the author of "Growth Hacking for Dummies" and an experienced professional in the field of growth. Anuj brings his wealth of expertise in growth hacking, community building, and talent optimization to the conversation, offering valuable insights on achieving genuine growth.What you're going to love about this episode: * Unveiling the Secrets of Growth: Anuj demystifies the art of growth hacking, discussing the importance of a clear North Star metric and a well-defined activation metric in driving growth. * Behavioral Insights: Learn about the behavioral traits a growth leader should possess, from being a rule-breaker to an influencer within the organization. * Growth Culture: Anuj shares how to build a culture of growth within an organization, bringing the entire organization together to focus on growth goals. * Practical Tips: From conducting effective stand-ups to implementing growth strategies, Anuj shares practical tips that can help growth leaders move the needle. * Real Talk: Get insights from Anuj's personal experiences and learn about the importance of fit between the growth leader and the organization's growth needs. Meet Anuj: Anuj Adhiya is a certified talent optimization leader with a demonstrated history of implementing principles that lead to authentic growth. He is skilled in extracting growth insights from qualitative and quantitative data that drive continuous improvement for businesses. A well-known name in the industry, Anuj has authored "Growth Hacking for Dummies," providing a comprehensive guide to driving growth in today's competitive business landscape. Where to find Anuj Adhiya: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anujadhiya/ * Twitter: https://twitter.com/AnujAdhiya Where to find Gururaj:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/Thanks for reading ThriveStack resources! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Sep 22, 202339 min

#3 — Impact of Customer Discovery on Shaping Products

Listen now on Spotify, Google, Apple, Overcast, and Youtube.Summary: Get ready for a riveting episode of ThriveCast! Our host, Gururaj Pandurangi, is sitting down with Dallas Fontaine, co-founder of scalelabs.dev. He is a whiz in the world of customer discovery. Together they're going to dissect customer discovery from all angles, and with Dallas spilling the beans on the why's, what's, and how's, you're in for a treat. If you've ever wondered about the impact of customer discovery on shaping products and businesses, you don't want to miss this one! What you're going to love about this episode: * Why Customer Discovery Matters: Explore why customer discovery is a game-changer, essential for your product and business's success.* The Nitty-Gritty of Customer Discovery: Dallas will guide you through the step-by-step process to master your customer discovery journey.* What Customers Want vs. Need: Learn the techniques to distinguish between customer wants and genuine needs, a crucial skill in product development.* Adjusting Your Assumptions: Discover effective strategies for when your initial assumptions about customers need recalibration.* Data or Gut?: Delve into the art of balancing data-driven decision-making and intuition in the customer discovery process.* The Impact Factor: Uncover how customer discovery can be a catalyst for business growth and lasting success.Meet Dallas: Dallas Fontaine isn't just a pro in customer discovery; he's a treasure trove of knowledge and experience. He's got a ton of valuable insights and practical advice to share, and he's not holding back. Prepare to dive deep into the world of customer discovery and see how it can transform your business! Recommended Reading: During the conversation, Dallas mentioned and recommended a few insightful resources: * "The Mom Test" – A book that presents practical advice on how to talk to customers and learn if your business idea is viable when everyone else is lying to you - www.momtestbook.com/ * "Deploy Empathy" – A guide that offers a comprehensive perspective on how to develop products people genuinely care about - https://deployempathy.com/ * Embroker's startup statistics blog post: www.embroker.com/blog/startup-statistics/ Where to find Dallas Fontaine: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dallasfontaine/* Twitter: https://twitter.com/FontaineDallasWhere to find Gururaj: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/Thanks for reading ThriveStack resources! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Sep 14, 202322 min

#2 — Startup Growth Stack Challenges ft. Kshitij Ingle

Listen now on Spotify, Google, Apple, Overcast, and Youtube. Summary:Gear up for an exciting episode of ThriveCast — a podcast series designed for Growth and Monetization practitioners! This time, our very own Gururaj Pandurangi is sitting down with Kshitij Ingle, a powerhouse in the realm of product growth, boasting over a decade's worth of experience across a multitude of industries. Gururaj and Kshitij will crack open the world of product growth initiatives, letting us in on the secrets of Kshitij's track record of successful strategies. If you're looking for a deep dive into the art of driving product growth and user acquisition, this episode is not to be missed!What you're going to love about this episode:* Unravel the Mystery: We're delving deep into what makes product growth tick and why it's such a big deal in today's industries.* Strategies Unveiled: Kshitij pulls back the curtain on his unique and proven strategies for nailing product marketing and user acquisition campaigns. A must-listen for anyone looking to boost their product's market presence!* Walk in an Expert's Shoes: Get a first-hand look at how Kshitij Ingle approaches product growth. It's all about data-driven strategies, and he's sharing his secrets to success!* Real Talk: We're not just talking theory; we're exploring real-life examples and case studies. Learn how these strategies have played out in the real world and how you can apply them to your own projects.* Stay Ahead of the Curve: We'll keep you in the loop on the latest trends in product growth and marketing. Find out what's hot, what's not, and how you can align your strategies to stay ahead of the game.Get to Know Kshitij:Kshitij Ingle is more than just a product growth professional; he's a strategic powerhouse with a knack for making big things happen. With over 10 years of experience, he's crafted a recipe for success that involves sharp analytical thinking, a keen understanding of market trends, and a passion for creating products that users love. Don't miss out on Kshitij's wealth of knowledge and unique insights in this episode!Where to find Kshitij Ingle:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kshitijingle/* Twitter : https://twitter.com/kshitij_ingleWhere to find Gururaj: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/Thanks for reading ThriveStack resources! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

Sep 5, 202330 min

#1 — Self-serve as the 1st Step to Implementing PLG in Your SaaS Business

In today's episode, we delve into the critical role of self-service in setting the stage for Product-Led Growth (PLG) in the SaaS industry. Our seasoned speakers, Gururaj Pandurangi and Suman Chittimuri, with their rich experiences in the tech world, share invaluable insights on how self-serve features can effectively pave the way for PLG. They discuss the associated challenges, the crucial importance of data analytics, and the early product and user-focused mindset that's paramount for success.About the Speakers:Our esteemed speakers bring a wealth of experience from diverse roles in the SaaS industry. Their expertise spans well-known tech organizations like Microsoft and ADP, and innovative startups. They share their unique perspectives, trials, and triumphs from their individual journeys navigating growth strategies.Where to find our speakers:Gururaj Pandurangi- https://www.linkedin.com/in/gururajp/Suman Chittimuri- https://www.linkedin.com/in/sumanchittimuri/Highlights of the Conversation:(00:00) Suman’s learnings(00:30) Introduction to the Product Growth Conversation Series(02:24) Speakers' backgrounds and their experience with growth strategies(08:21) Introduction to self-service as the first step to implementing PLG(14:48) The power of data in refining growth strategies(17:06) Transitioning from SLG to PLG: Experiences and insights(20:45) Importance of an early product and user-focused mindset(22:24) Why transitioning from SLG to PLG is tougher than the reverse We encourage you to be part of our Thrive Stack Community on Slack, where you can contribute to the ongoing conversation. We value your thoughts and look forward to hearing your feedback. Please consider leaving a review on your chosen podcast platform as it goes a long way in helping us shape our discussions. Stay connected for more engaging and insightful conversations. Your feedback makes a difference! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.hybridgtm.com

May 31, 202328 min