Progress not perfection
In episode 349, I speak with Joel and Troy McRae, co-authors of children's books. Joel writes, Troy illustrates, and together they are on a mission to inspire young people to be more active and more creative. Their two picture books, 'Birdwatching Betty', and 'Giraffe Cannot Play Hide and Seek' started as gifts for the children of friends and now have become books that are delighting many people, young and old. In this awesome conversation, we discuss the power of a deadline, about finding fun in every element of life, why comparison is the thief of joy, and why progress is better than perfection. This is an inspiring conversation, not to be missed.
The Wellness Puzzle Podcast · Andrew Jobling, Joel McRae, Troy McRae
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Show Notes
What happens when creativity, play, and purpose collide? You get Joel and Troy McRae — co-authors of delightful children’s books who are on a mission to inspire young people (and grown-ups too) to be more active, more creative, and a whole lot less hard on themselves.
Joel is the writer, Troy the illustrator, and together they’ve created two much-loved picture books: Birdwatching Betty and Giraffe Cannot Play Hide and Seek. What began as heartfelt gifts for the children of friends has grown into stories that are now bringing joy, laughter, and important life lessons to readers of all ages.
In this fun, thoughtful, and surprisingly profound conversation, we explore the idea of progress over perfection — in creativity, in life, and in the stories we tell ourselves. Joel and Troy share how setting a deadline can unlock creativity, why finding fun in every element of life matters, and how comparison quietly steals our joy if we let it.
This episode is a beautiful reminder that you don’t have to get it perfect to get it moving — and that sometimes the most meaningful things start small, playful, and imperfect.
In this episode, we talk about:
- Why progress will always beat perfection
- The power of deadlines in getting creative work done
- How children’s books can carry powerful life lessons
- Finding fun and curiosity in everyday life
- Why comparison really is the thief of joy
- Creating for impact, not applause
If you’re a parent, educator, creative, or someone who needs permission to stop striving for perfect and start enjoying the process — this episode is for you.
🎧 Listen now and be reminded: progress is more than enough.
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