
The Rules of Investing
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The Seven Deadly Sins of investing
Four megatrends you need to know about (and how to play them)
Signal or noise? Three macro experts on what matters for your portfolio
5 shocking predictions for 2027 and beyond
Where is the value on the ASX? 3 fund managers name their best ideas
Five years from now, these are the companies everyone will wish they owned
Soul Patts has 20% in cash. Todd Barlow says everything else has to earn its place
Coming up: Livewire Live 2026 Special Episodes
Why T. Rowe Price’s Iona Dent believes it’s not time to leave the equities party yet
Hofflin: Big moves are creating great value on the ASX
The index is risky. Why Antipodes is finding value beyond the AI trade
Inside Schroders' inflation-beating 'sleep at night' portfolio
Two attributes to make you a better investor
3 small caps powering Ryder Capital’s double-digit growth and fully franked dividends
3 ways to play the mining boom that is just getting started
Backing generational companies with Blackbird’s Samantha Wong
Is this the market’s most-misunderstood growth opportunity?
James Abela: The high-stakes search for Quality
Chris Watling on AI, inflation, oil and the fragile foundations beneath markets
A familiar voice returns to The Rules of Investing
There’s always a bull market somewhere
Lazard’s recipe for growing dividends with less volatility

Ep 289Nick Griffin: The good, the bad and the ugly
Markets are wobbling, sentiment is turning, and investors are starting to question what comes next. In this episode, Munro Partners CIO Nick Griffin explains why he still believes we’re in a bull market, how the war in Iran is impacting markets, and why AI is forcing a major rethink on tech investing.

Ep 288“Less than halfway through the gold story”, L1 Capital launches high-performing strategy via new LIC
Gold has re-entered the spotlight, but L1 Capital believes investors may be looking in the wrong place. After years of investing in commodities, the firm formalised its view with a dedicated gold strategy in March 2025, now set to list as the L1 Gold Fund Limited (ASX: LGF, subject to approval). Co-Chief Investment Officer Raphael Lamm sees the real opportunity not in bullion, but in overlooked gold equities trading on “astounding” free cash flow yields. Crucially, the strategy does not depend on rising gold prices, with valuations anchored in conservative assumptions. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, Lamm explains why structural forces could support the opportunity for years to come. Please note, this interview was recorded on Monday, 16 March 2026.

Ep 287The decisions Dion Hershan is making now that could set up portfolios for a decade
Periods of intense uncertainty test even the most seasoned investors. Today, markets face several competing forces: artificial intelligence reshaping industries, geopolitical tensions fuelling energy volatility, and elevated valuations alongside concentration in parts of the Australian equity market. For Yarra Capital Management’s Dion Hershan, these environments demand discipline rather than panic. While investors remain fixated on macro headlines, he argues many meaningful micro changes are being overlooked. Drawing on experience across multiple market cycles, from the tech wreck to the global financial crisis, Hershan believes the decisions made in turbulent periods often matter most. In fact, he says a handful of well-timed choices can set up a portfolio for an entire decade. Please note, this interview was recorded Thursday, 12 March 2026

Ep 286The ‘unloved’ stocks fuelling a 30% year in L1 Capital’s Catalyst Fund
For much of the past year, investors have been focused on growth stocks and AI winners. But some of the strongest returns have come from stocks the market had largely written off. James Hawkins, Head of L1 Capital’s Catalyst Fund, is building a reputation for finding value where others aren’t looking, combining deep research with an activist mindset to unlock it. That strategy has helped drive a strong year for the fund, with contrarian positions in companies like BlueScope Steel and Mineral Resources fuelling 30% gains. In this episode of the Rules of Investing, Hawkins explains L1’s affinity for hard assets, the catalysts for unlocking value and the unloved stocks capturing the markets attention.

Ep 284Returns today, risk tomorrow. The next shakeout will show who got lending right
Private lending has expanded rapidly over the past decade as banks pulled back from parts of the corporate market. The result has been a surge of capital chasing income, but the speed of that growth is also raising questions about how the sector will perform when the cycle eventually turns. In this episode of the Rules of Investing podcast, Privity Credit Managing Partner Ryan Donnar explains why lending outside the banking system is far from a one-dimensional asset class. He also outlines where crowding is emerging, why structure matters more than yield, and the key questions investors should ask before allocating capital. Please note, this interview was recorded Tuesday, 24 February 2026

Ep 281Why this global manager backed L1 with $50m
Equity markets are in the middle of what Greg Dean calls “the world’s most uncomfortable rotation." In this episode, the founder of Langdon Equity Partners explains why AI may not be the real story, why high-margin businesses can be more vulnerable than they appear, and how he’s positioning his portfolio, including a 7.6% stake in L1 Group and a decision to reinvest in Johns Lyng after its take-private.
Ep 282Pay attention to insider buying as the dust settles on wild reporting season
More than 70 companies reported this week and while the ASX 200 continues to push record highs, stock reactions remain ruthless. In this episode, Ben Clark argues it’s been one of the strongest reporting seasons in years, with banks, miners and consumer names broadly beating expectations. He explains why Woolworths’ resurgence caught the market off guard, why WiseTech’s AI defence matters more than its job cuts, and why Monadelphous and Ramsay may be turning points. Clark also highlights heavy insider buying across tech, suggesting recent weakness may be overdone. Despite volatility, he sees momentum building into the second half.
Ep 280Bids, beats and bumper dividends. Reporting season takes a positive turn
With reporting season taking a positive turn, Chris Conway speaks with James Gerrish of Market Partners to get his hot take on a big week of reporting season, the key beats and misses, and what he's keeping an eye on for the rest of the season.
Ep 279Is this week's reporting season carnage a sign of things to come?
The first big week of reporting season was full of fireworks with some wild swings in some of the biggest companies on the ASX. Livewire's Chris Conway spoke with Henry Jennings from Marcus Today to discuss some of the important results and how investors reacted.

Ep 278Simon Doyle on choosing the best assets for protecting portfolios from inflation
Inflation is back at the centre of investor concerns. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, James Marlay is joined by outgoing Schroders CEO and CIO Simon Doyle to discuss why inflation has been so persistent, the assets he trusts most to protect real returns and the lessons from a long career in markets.

Ep 276How to invest $1 million in 2026
Markets delivered another strong year in 2025, extending an exceptional run for equities. The S&P 500 returned around 22.8% per annum over the past three years, roughly double the long-term average, while the ASX 200 delivered closer to 9.7% excluding dividends. After a run like this, the key issue isn’t just where markets go next, but how investors set expectations. In this episode, James Marlay speaks Ben Clark from TMS Private Wealth and Charlie Viola from Viola Private Wealth to discuss realistic return expectations, the factors shaping asset allocation for 2026, and where they’re directing new capital.

Ep 277VanEck and Global X go head-to-head to build the ultimate ETF portfolio for 2026
Vishal Teckchandani asked two of Australia's leading ETF providers to put together a starting lineup of 11 ETFs built to win next year. Our two team captains were VanEck's Jamie Hannah and Global X ETFs' Marc Jocum, who each brought some of their big hitters (and more cricket metaphors than you can shake a stump at).

Ep 2754 property market hotspots and 2 big ideas to fix affordability
Property experts Nerida Conisbee and Kiril Ruvinsky unpack what is driving the market and share their bold predictions for 2026.

Ep 274Closing out 2025 and dropping a few bonus episodes along the way
The Rules of Investing has wrapped for 2025. Thanks for tuning in; we’ve loved bringing you the conversations and insights that shaped markets this year. We have a few bonus episodes coming out over the next couple of weeks and we’ll return to regular programming in 2026. Enjoy the holiday break and all the best for the year ahead.

Ep 273Michael O'Neill's 5 key ASX dividend picks and the outlook for income in 2026
The ASX’s headline yield has slipped, but dividend income is still on offer if investors know where to look. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, IML’s Dr Michael O’Neill explains the dividend outlook, shares five ASX income picks, and outlines the mistake investors are making on rates and valuation risk. *Correction - in the podcast Michael mistakenly said the yield on CSL is 4% when it is actually closer to 3% based on 1-year forward estimates from brokers.

Ep 271The playbook behind Plato’s 25 percent returns
Dr David Allen from Plato Investment Management joins the show to unpack the systematic engine behind his fund’s 25 percent annual returns, how red flags reveal stocks set to fall, and the global themes he believes will drive markets over the next decade.

Ep 269Chris Prunty: The 4 small caps heading for ‘Hall of Fame’ status
QVG Capital’s Chris Prunty joins the Rules of Investing to unpack what makes the great companies great. He shares the three traits found in Australia’s “Hall of Fame” stocks, reveals four small caps he believes could follow in their footsteps, and explains why QVG is backing Hub24 over Netwealth in the battle of the investment platforms.

Ep 267The property assets still trading at a discount as investors chase growth
Property moves in cycles, but real value lies in assets you can’t replace. Quay Global Investors’ Chris Bedingfield joins The Rules of Investing to explain why global REITs are trading at some of the biggest discounts in years, how ageing demographics and construction costs are reshaping real estate, and why patience remains the most underrated edge for investors. ________________________ Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSense This latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.

Ep 266The five-year test: Lev Margolin’s four-step process for finding structural winners
It’s hard to know what markets will do next week, let alone next year. But what if you could identify companies that will be in a stronger position five years from now? That’s the approach taken by Lev Margolin, founder of System Capital, a Melbourne-based long/short strategy that’s delivered more than 22% per annum since inception. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, we unpack the four-step framework that guides his process, where he’s finding opportunities in a hot market, and the businesses he believes are quietly building long-term strength. ________________________ Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSense This latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.

Ep 264Inside the Soul Patts compounding machine
Soul Patts CEO Todd Barlow joins The Rules of Investing to unpack the firm’s merger with Brickworks, why he’s buying at cyclical lows, and how he’s positioning for the future of energy. He also shares why liquidity and humility matter when markets are running hot. ________________________ Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSense This latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.

Ep 261Magellan's value picks as sentiment soars
Markets are on fire and bubble talk is everywhere. So how should investors respond? In this episode, Magellan’s Arvid Streimann breaks down how to keep emotion out of your decisions, where he’s finding genuine value, and why he still believes in the power of brands and discipline. ________________________ Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSense This latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.

Ep 260Matthew Kidman: The two best times to make money in markets are coming
In this episode of The Rules of Investing, Centennial’s Matthew Kidman shares his playbook for the late stage of a structural bull market. He explains why valuations don’t matter (for now), how he found his first 10-bagger, and the standout management teams on the ASX. Plus, Kidman reveals why he’s still bullish on markets — and what could eventually bring it all undone.

Ep 259Warryn Robertson: The secret to owning the world’s best assets
Warryn Robertson has spent two decades investing in the assets that keep the world running — from toll roads to transmission lines and satellites. In this episode, he explains the rules for owning the world’s best assets, why getting the definition right matters, and what investors are getting wrong about markets today. ________________________ Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSense This latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.

Ep 258A look inside the portfolios of Australia's leading investors - Livewire Live Mini-Series
bonusTwo of Australia’s most respected investment firms share how they are positioning for tomorrow. Learn where they see opportunity and how their strategies are evolving. From private credit to gold, discover where Soul Patts’ Todd Barlow and Regal’s Phil King see the biggest returns. ________________ This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage. Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]

Ep 25710 years from now, these are the companies everyone will wish they owned - Livewire Live Mini-Series
From gaming stock to global giant, Nvidia shows how fast the future can arrive. Global stock pickers Josh Cummings, Qiao Ma and Dr David Allen share where they see the next mega caps emerging. ________________ This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage. Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]

Ep 256High conviction: What we’re backing for the long term - Livewire Live Mini-Series
bonusBanks and miners dominate the ASX, but the opportunity doesn’t end there. At Livewire Live 2025, L1 Capital’s Mark Landau and Allan Gray’s Simon Mawhinney shared their conviction calls beyond these portfolio staples. This episode is part of our special mini-series of The Rules of Investing, giving you a front-row seat to discussions from Livewire Live 2025, our flagship investor event. Whether you’re after big-picture market insights or actionable investment strategies, this series offers exclusive insights to help shape your investment decisions. We hope you enjoy this special 4-part series. We’ll return to our regular programming with the next episode of The Rules of Investing. ________________ This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage. Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]

Ep 255Viktor Shvets: How to embrace the chaos clouding markets - Livewire Live Mini-Series
bonusIf you’re still betting on bear markets or mean reversion to drag asset prices back to earth, you’re living in a bygone era. That’s the message from Viktor Shvets, Macquarie’s Head of Global Strategy, who joined us at Livewire Live 2025. This episode is part of our special mini-series of The Rules of Investing, giving you a front-row seat to discussions from Livewire Live 2025, our flagship investor event. Whether you’re after big-picture market insights or actionable investment strategies, this series offers exclusive insights to help shape your investment decisions. We hope you enjoy this special 4-part series. We’ll return to our regular programming with the next episode of The Rules of Investing. ________________ This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage. Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]

Ep 254Chris Joye's big contrarian call
Christopher Joye is making a bold call on the US. He believes Trump’s policies will deliver exceptionally strong growth, fuelled by tariffs, tax cuts, and trillions in AI-driven investment. In this episode, Joye explains why he is so bullish on America, what the bond market is signalling, and his advice for investors as hybrids roll off in the years ahead. ________________________ Thanks to our Sponsor AlphaSense This latest episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. See what AlphaSense can do for your investment research—visit alpha-sense.com/livewire to get started.