TPToA Podcast 417 – Weapons

Dion 

Oh, well, hello and welcome to the periodic table of awesome. I’m unsure of who I am at the moment. I could be a weapon, I’m not sure. But you know who I know is absolutely a weapon. Jill. Jill is absolutely a weapon. 

Quinny 

Look at those ******* guns. Boom. 

Dion 

And and Quinny is potentially a weapon. 

Quinny 

Look, I I had to register my entire body as deadly weapon as, as, as legally one is bound to when one is as hard as ******* as I. 

Jill 

Make a gun. 

Dion 

Am I was actually going to say if you. If you commit to it quinny, if you if you, if you you put yourself on a regime, if you go to the gym, you could build yourself into a weapon. And. 

Quinny 

Buddy, I I am a weapon. It’s just like I’m a 10 LB ******* gun. I’m like, you know, you you you’re thinking of like a a fast kind of swishy weapon. I’m more like a like a a fat man bomb that gets dropped off, you know. 

Speaker 6 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

So technically, still the weapon. 

Dion 

I wasn’t gonna. I wasn’t gonna go there. 

Quinny 

Yeah, well, I know. And as telling us, there’s better being a weapon than being a tool. What are you? 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. Now you’re a ******. Don’t don’t tism me. This is that will go down a rabbit hole. We’re not going to do it. Yes. OK. Weapons. We went and. 

Quinny 

I know, right? 

Dion 

Saw weapons. We did, we. 

Quinny 

Can’t get a water bomb is a weapon too. 

Dion 

All of that what is a weapon? Yeah. 

Quinny 

Is that my physique? Is that what?

Speaker 7 

We’re saying no. 

Dion 

Philosophically. OK, so story time now. A while back, Jill and I went and saw a. 

Jill 

Little film we trauma bonded over, but Marion. 

Dion 

Yeah, we trailer bond, we weren’t. We didn’t know what was going on. We weren’t. It was like, ohh this film. It’s called barbarian. OK, whatever. We’ll go do that. And they were good. They gave us some alcohol. I’m like, oh, yeah. Let’s get on this and started watching a film. And then. Don’t know, maybe. 3045 minutes into it, we started going wait, where the **** is this going? And and it just proceeded to get even ******* more terrifying and crazy all the way to the end. And then we walked out going. That was ******* cool. 

Jill 

Yes, it was ****** **, but it was cool. 

Dion 

Yeah, it was. 

Speaker 

Quinny 

You’re not normally a huge horror fan. No, but like you, you will watch it. If it’s in front of. 

Dion 

I mean, you know, like I’m not the sort of person who’s like, oh, is it gory and horror, sure. Or go and laugh. I’m just more like, I don’t really need to see that. It has to be a good horror, elevated horror. Elevated horror is a discerning horror. Which, you know, like the traditional stuff like nightmare on Elm Street, you know and. 

Quinny 

13th. 

Dion 

Friday 13th and I don’t really go into. I don’t need to see Gore for the sake of gore. 

Jill 

Those are like a sub genre though those are. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. And slasher. Yeah. And but a good. 

Speaker 6 

Slasher films, yeah. 

Quinny 

Horror. Torture. ****. Not it’s like, you know, that kind of stuff where it’s just watching people be. 

Dion 

Nice. 

Jill 

Like so. 

Quinny 

Exactly. 

Dion 

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like all that kind of stuff can kind of get a bit confused in. But you know, I can’t say I’m a fan of it because, you know, given the choice, I’m not sure that I’d go and see barbarian or weapons again in that kind of sense. But was it a good film? Yeah. 

Speaker 

But. 

Dion 

You know, it was just that way that it kind of went through. So sure, I’m not a huge horror fan. Jill. Jill though. Yeah, she yeah loves it. Except for. 

Jill 

You love it. Clowns. No, no, it I’ll never watch it. 

Dion 

Yeah. So. It. 

Quinny 

Ohh, but you’re you’re not looking forward to welcome. To Derry then. 

Speaker 6 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

The the prequel to it. 

Jill 

Good, because I would have thought it was something to do with dairy. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Speaker 8 

Girls and I would have gone and seen it. And I would have been very upset. 

Quinny 

Why would you would have? It’s a TV series coming out soon and I’m actually really pumped. I’ve. 

Speaker 6 

Yeah, no. 

Quinny 

It was one of those books that ******* creeped this **** out of me as a kid and you know, I’m like, yeah. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Jill 

I couldn’t stare at a drain for a very long time because my father would say ohh it lives in the trees and it’s little children. So here I am in the shower, not making eye contact. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Speaker 6 

Yeah, yeah. 

Jill 

With the brain. 

Dion 

With the train. 

Jill 

Thinking it was any kind of drain that this ******* clown lived in. 

Dion 

Which which technically it did. So it does live in every drain and it is a clown. 

Jill 

Yeah. Yeah. And I’m like, don’t look down there cause you’ll see something staring back and. I was *******. He’s terrified. 

Quinny 

Hi, Georgie. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if if I go down that rabbit hole, I could still easily terrify the **** out of myself. 

Quinny 

Yep. 

Dion 

Yes, so. 

Jill 

I do kind of tend to watch horror as a form of. Therapy. Because I’m in a constant state of fight or. 

Speaker 8 

Flight with anxiety and if. 

Jill 

I were to ah. Film. Then I I know that that is something that I can’t control and it’s I just have to go along for the ride. So I just kind of like purges the fright. 

Dion 

Sure. I mean it’s. 

Quinny 

Out and also. Yeah, it gives you that, that, that moment of tension and then release, whereas having a life of anxiety means there’s no release. Yeah, exactly. 

Speaker 6 

Yes. 

Quinny 

Just tension. Constant ******* ongoing tension. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah, no, I get that totally. 

Dion 

Quinny, do you consider yourself a fan of horror? 

Quinny 

As a kid, **** no. Like I was terrified of anything that looked even remotely like horror, you know, like, even seeing a cover of a VHS of something like extra or fright night or something like that was enough to make me, you know. You have nightmares for ages, so it took me a really long time till I ever went anything near horror and I came to horror through so if I. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Quinny 

So right, you know, the first horror that I watched was aliens. And yeah, because that wasn’t really a horror. That was, you know, an action film that had horror elements. 

Speaker 6 

Hmm. 

Quinny 

Then I went back and rewatched or watched alien and was scared ********. But then I started to kind of get into it. No invasion of the body snatchers and. Like that and now I have a thing that I’m not in a huge rush to go and watch a horror. 

Speaker 6 

Sure. Yeah. 

Quinny 

But I will watch a good one. 

Dion 

And so back to this whole sort of story when weapons came out and it’s by Zach Krieger, who Jill and I have had the Zach Cregger experience with barbarian. And while we were like, this is gonna be like I I remember I was looking at. 

Speaker 6 

Hmm. 

Speaker 

We have. 

Dion 

Oh great. Ohh wait. OK. Like I’ll go see what this is, but I knew what I was going into. The funniest thing was watching it with Quinn, who had not. Had this experience at. All just going. What the **** I’m like, yeah. 

Quinny 

No. That’s in fact there. There are multiple times in the film where characters exclaim loudly what the ****? Sure, and I agree wholeheartedly with them. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Because there is a part of this where I feel like weapons is communicating with the audio. Once in a really interesting way and it doesn’t spoil anything. I just feel like there are parts of the movie and beats of the story and things that are going where it the the film makers are communicating with the audience going. We’ve just shown you a bunch of ****** ** **** and we’ve had a character on screen and saying what the **** and the whole audience is like. Yeah, what the ****? 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

And it really it was an interesting as you were saying, the release of tension and I felt like that came through at the end too where it. Diverged a little bit, but allowed the audience to have that tension released, which has been built up for the whole thing, so I consider this one not particularly a horror, but it is. Let’s be honest. Yeah, it is. Yeah. 

Jill 

Ohh it is. 

Dion 

But it is. 

Quinny 

It’s it’s a proper horror, but you know. 

Dion 

It’s a it’s a really good tension film. 

Jill 

Yeah, Arena asked. Is it more of a thriller? But I would say no, it’s definitely. 

Speaker 6 

And. 

Dion 

No, no. 

Jill 

Not not thriller. 

Dion 

No, because and the horror. 

Quinny 

It. It does good tension building and it is it has that kind of thriller kind of thing, but no, it’s very definitely. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Speaker 6 

Yes. 

Dion 

Yeah, as you say, like, oh, I’m not going with jump scares. I’m like, well, maybe this is not for you. 

Quinny 

In fact, this has moments that are not jump scares, but like there are there are some of the most effective moments of like, skin crawling horror that I have seen in a long time, and hearing a whole. 

Dion 

Horror. Just dread. That contained no. 

Quinny 

Audience yeah, react to them and ohh wow. 

Dion 

With like and they have no blood. It’s just really good ******* creepy ****. 

Speaker 1 

Yeah, and like. 

Dion 

That you’re waiting for something. 

Jill 

I I love all of that stuff. And when one of. The big jump scares happened and I screamed. 

Dion 

He did. 

Speaker 

It was great. 

Quinny 

A big way. 

Dion 

Yeah, and. And look, let’s be honest, we all knew it was coming. Like that’s one of the great things when you still have that result like ohh ****. Even though I knew it was coming. 

Speaker 6 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Yes. Yeah. Like, I’m like, oh, my God, I know this is coming. And then it did. And then I screamed. And I’m like, I haven’t screamed and. It jumps Gary and ages. Yeah. So it was it. Was a good pay off do do you wanna know? 

Dion 

And the. 

Quinny 

What the film’s actually about? No, no. 

Dion 

Not yet. One one second, one second. Can I, can I ask you one question because I don’t actually have any music and you’ve caught me off guard. 

Quinny 

I think. It. Yeah. 

Dion 

The last movie that I saw that did the same kind of thing that I really actually didn’t enjoy was smile too. Ohh yeah yeah. So watched that. Yeah, and I mean. 

Jill 

Never. 

Quinny 

Ohh you should get into that Joe. 

Jill 

Yeah, it’s on, it’s on telly. I’ll watch it, yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. That for the for the discomforting side of it, Dee or the. 

Dion 

No, the the way that it like, I mean smile, which I haven’t seen and I saw smile to going in blind which is a bit funny but I understood the craft and I thought they did it really well but they jump scares became a point where it was. Just this is the building to a jump scare. Whereas I liked weapons more because it was like is it a jump scare? Maybe you know? And it was some sort of smarter done and then sometimes was like, hey, it’s not a jump scare. It’s just something absolutely ******* terrifying that doesn’t really do it. Yeah, it’s it’s. And it’s not about some. That is terrifying. It’s the idea of it is built and constructed in such a great way that the audience is filling in their brain about how terrifying and what bad things could happen, and then it doesn’t really happen that way. It just puts the the situation goes, hey, how would you react to this situation? And everyone in the audience is going *******. No, I don’t want to be in that situation. I don’t want. To do this, I want to leave. Anyway. 

Quinny 

Absolutely. OK. 

Dion 

Sorry, synopsis time. Do you know what I’ve got? I’ve got on the boards for the music to go behind. It is stuff. 

Quinny 

I don’t know. 

Dion 

From Kpop Demon Hunter. So do you want that? Why not? We haven’t had enough. 

Speaker 6 

No. 

Quinny 

Why? No, I mean, hey, by the way, the the golden from K pop demon hunters went to number one of the Billboard charts today. Wow. 

Dion 

Excellent. Hear it again. 

Speaker 7 

Yeah, well, let’s go with. 

Quinny 

We’re just increasing its plays. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Quinny 

Jill 

You’re gonna give us, like a Anna Delphi. 

Quinny 

Ohh but I can because you’re a poor. 

Dion 

Yes, do it. 

Quinny 

OK, when all but one child from the same classroom mysteriously vanish on the same night at exactly the same time because they’re porous. 

Speaker 7 

Right. 

Quinny 

A community is left questioning who or what is behind the disappearances. Sorry that just turned into the chick from SBS. 

Speaker 8 

This is going. 

Jill 

I was like, it’s like Christoph Waltz and Christopher Walken met Christoph Walton. 

Quinny 

First off. I apologize. I apologize to everybody that was, that was the absolute peak of **** accent. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Wait, was that the whole boxes? 

Quinny 

Yeah. When all but one child from the same club, I can. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Quinny 

Do a slightly longer. 1 So it’s a a horror film about a community grappling with the disappearance of 17 children from the same class, all vanishing at the same time on the same. Night and it follows. The aftermath, exploring things of trauma, grief, and the unsettling nature of the events of the townspeople, tried to understand. What happened and who is responsible? 

Dion 

Double s in officers. OK, one of them was backed by K pop and the other was. Just a flat scare. So. OK, yeah, good. 

Quinny 

Sorry. 

Dion 

Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good so. 

Quinny 

Right. Yeah. That’s how we should do it. That’s that’s how we work there. Yes. And there was a little gesture. 

Dion 

Now very. 

Quinny 

In there I’m. 

Dion 

Sorry, very, very, very importantly, there was a notice in front of the screening. Which was, hey, don’t spoil it for people where people go in and I thought, OK, it’s a bit naff. Let the thing stand on its own. You know, there’s no need to go through it. But it went on upon reflection. 

Speaker 8 

Yes. 

Dion 

Having it’s it’s been out for a while now. I actually kind of go. Yeah, I don’t. Really want to. Do a big spoil because not that I think you’d lose anything from it. I just think it’s a more interesting film to not know. Sort of the last third going into it, I think it has a better effect, not not giving a **** about it. Like, don’t really listen. To. People reviewing it and and spoiling stuff because. You kind of lose. 

Jill 

It. Yeah, I mean, the trailer was enough and then kind of like discovering what is actually going on is I think lends more to the suspense and and keeps it interesting. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I do want to talk like a little bit structurally about what happens at the end of the film, but I don’t want to talk about. 

Jill 

Oh yeah. OK. 

Quinny 

The the the facts of it like you know. But anyway, let’s not talk about that bit. Let’s talk about the beginning of the film. So a base concept, a bunch of kids run away one night. But it’s not just that they run away. 

Speaker 7 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

They Naruto runner. 

Jill 

Naruto run, they’re going to storm area 51. Yeah, at 2:17 in the morning? Absolutely. 

Dion 

At 2:17 and it’s all through grainy camera footage. And I love the little child like voice, voice over narration of, like, this is a true story. This is the stuff that happened and blah blah blah and I’m like. 

Speaker 7 

Which is. 

Jill 

Yeah, it gives it a little bit of found footage vibe. 

Dion 

Bit Nash. 

Jill 

Which is yeah. It’s like a bit creepy. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, this this does that whole found footage and like, different cameras and stuff like that. So much better than that war of. The world’s ********. 

Dion 

****, don’t. Don’t even. It’s it’s an interesting one too, because what I really like about it is it is. It is an easy to understand story. It’s set in suburban Americana. Sort of. There is something creepy going on in a space that generally wouldn’t be considered creepy, and I think you did it also in barbarian like and I and I really enjoy that. It doesn’t necessarily need. Rich people, poor people. It’s not about, you know, X&Y. It’s like, look, this weird thing happened. Hmm, that has probably been going on for a long time. In this and everyone is unsettled by it, but in the end. Life will keep going. And I really, I really like they explained at the start, they’re like ohh this really strange thing and in the end everyone just sort of accepted it. And moved on because it was too upsetting for people and I really like that it gave it a good basis and a good foundation to sort of settle in and go, OK what the? 

Quinny 

**** did happen but, but also it it does that that very smart thing of going OK how do people in you know, small towns react to bad things happening? They’ll turn. 

Dion 

You know clue. 

Speaker 7 

Insect. 

Quinny 

And and the the most obvious person to turn on is the the the school teacher. So if every kid from the class Bar 1. You know doesn’t show up who’s the first thing you’re gonna look at the school teacher. You’re gonna ask questions there. 

Jill 

See, I’m the opposite. I’m like, why is this one? Kid left on, yeah. 

Quinny 

Oh yeah, 100 percent, 100%. 

Jill 

What’s going on with this kid? 

Quinny 

And the the the good thing is they actually show you like they they interview the kid, they do a lot of like they go to great lengths to really show you that due diligence has been done. Yeah. You know, and this is just there is no answer. It’s just ******* weird. 

Jill 

Yeah, it’s it’s puzzling. 

Dion 

And and like I love that they used quite well in this, like the vignette sort of style, the way they chop it up and they follow, you know, you get introduced to kind of some of the characters and then you get like as you get introduced to more, it starts replaying their stories. And I like the way that they use that quite effectively, which is like here’s. This person, and this is their story. And then we’ll follow someone else and it overlaps and it overlaps and it overlaps until you finally get to the. 

Jill 

Yeah. And chill, there’s a point where it’s like, hang on a second. Something really *******. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Weird’s going on? 

Dion 

And until it gets to the point where it’s like, OK, we’ve given you enough back story about how all these things are kind of overlapping and then we’re just gonna follow this one. And explain exactly what happened and you were like by that time you’re like ohh ****. Like, how do you resolve this? What the **** did happen? 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Yeah, it was a good point to reveal it as well because like, it was a very kind of slow burn intro to the movie. And I was like, ohh, where is this going like? 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Jill 

It’s maybe, yeah, becoming a little bit dull until like you do get that pivot point and it’s like, ohh ****. OK now strap in, cause I’m ready for. 

Dion 

So. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She’s gotten real ****** **. Yeah, it it’s interesting because I was watching it and my immediate thought was the film rush him on, which is the one where they they tell the same story, but from different perspectives. And you see the way that interacts. It’s like that. But it it’s sort of. 

Jill 

The rest of it. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Just showing you different parts, but then continuing the story on. Yeah, which I thought was really smart. 

Jill 

And thank God you you made the cultural reference and didn’t go with like Pulp Fiction. 

Quinny 

Sure. Well, you know, because I’ve all filmically ******* knowledgeable. 

Dion 

I mean, look, you know. 

Jill 

It was like, where did that reference come from? Russian. 

Dion 

Barbarian great one much shorter like Barbarians. Only 100 minutes. Yeah, right. This one’s 128 minutes. So we got almost an extra half hour of, you know, additional weirdness, which I think was deserved in this. Like I really like the pacing and the punch of barbarian because it just kind of like starts off real slow and then starts hammering through this one. Get it? Has the same sort of thing. It starts off real slow, but it gives you time to build that tension. And then I think at the end, a little bit more. Time like. When you start explaining things. I thought it would move a little bit quicker, but I have to admit by the end of it I was like, Oh no, I’m fine with how you. Decided you wanted to go with this and by the time you get to that big turn or the big understanding about what is going on, which I say is like 2/3 of the way. Through the film. It does delve into stuff where I’m like, is this funny? Is this not funny? But also, how are you gonna resolve this? And the only way to do it is. Kind of with a little bit of ridiculousness. But I thought it. Was it served it quite well? 

Quinny 

I think the thing that worked for me about it was the way the characters each sort of had their their very clear part of the story. 3 and when it intersects with one particular place, that’s where **** starts to go badly wrong for everyone you know you’re you’re trying to. Everybody’s trying to work out. Something and they’ve all got their their challenges. So you’ve you’ve got our our Julia Garner. Who’s been Justine, who obviously school teacher Josh Brolin is the dad of one of the. Benedict Wong is one of the the principal principal of the the school. Alden Ehrenreich is one of the cops, and Austin Abrams is is a a junkie for I mean, for lack of any better description. 

Jill 

He’s. 

Dion 

Just cop. 

Quinny 

And each of them. 

Speaker 6 

They’ve. 

Quinny 

Their their thing, their story, their interaction, yeah. 

Speaker 7 

Sure. 

Jill 

And each of their encounters with what is going on. And so you kind of get their perspective on. Ohh man, how do we trying? 

Speaker 8 

It’s hard not to spoil it, but. 

Dion 

Isn’t it you? You get there? It’s, it’s. Yeah, they they put out like, I mean the the, the film posits a strange occurrence, and then all of these different people come into it at different ways, like their their approach that they’re in, they’re affected by it in different ways. And the way that they approach it is. All 100% what everyone knew and I would do like. Yeah, there are no, there is no stupid situation. I have to admit there’s nothing stupid about each of these characters and decisions they’re making along the way. It’s just that there is something else affecting them and we as the audience know that there is something real bad. Happening and we can’t stop them, even though within their characters like, you know, the problem with horror and like that kind of stuff. You’re like, don’t go into there. That’s stupid. You never do that. Stop splitting. Up. I don’t think there’s one character in this that makes a dumb. 

Speaker 6 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Every single character is like. This is weird. But I need to find the kids. And I’m just going to do something that’s seemingly innocuous but suddenly ends up in a world. Of hurt. Like and, that’s what I thought was great about it. Isn’t one of those things like watch out for the slash? Are they going to get you? It’s like, no, they don’t know they’re. Going to be gotten. Because they’re doing something really boring, like going to a house. In the middle of the day, yeah. And then, you know, bad **** happens not because they made a dumb decision, because something else is affecting them. 

Quinny 

Yes. Yeah, it’s, it’s smart and it doesn’t treat its audiences in any way stupid. Yeah, it takes some weird turns. Ohh. 

Dion 

100%. 

Quinny 

Like, yeah, there’s, I don’t know whether we talk about it afterwards or what, but there’s stuff to in the last act that I was just like, what the ****? And it really there was in some very strange directions. But up until that point, you’ve also had a bunch of pretty ******* weird moments. And there’s a point where. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Like you said, Joe, it’s gone fairly slowly for a while. Yeah. And then there’s a point. Where it just suddenly ramps up and it’s no longer creeping dread. Now it’s running ******* screaming, running, screaming, terrifying. 

Jill 

Naruto running. 

Quinny 

This is ******** terror. 

Dion 

And. Look, I I. Liked it because they set everyone up as an unreliable narrator or character, but everyone is in is is unreliable in this you immediately start following Justine, who’s the school teacher, and they go to great lengths to explain why. Maybe she. 

Speaker 6 

Yeah. 

Speaker 

It. 

Dion 

You know, and they do all of that like maybe the father, like is Josh Brolin’s character is maybe he’s got something to do with it because he seems. Overly crazy at certain points of time, but. Ultimately it’s it’s it’s very sane reactions to a very insane situation, and I think that was the success of how it worked. 

Speaker 6 

For me, does that make sense? Yeah. Here’s one roll. Sorry. 

Dion 

Hmm, also shot beautifully. Also shot. Beautifully. 

Quinny 

Shot beautifully and a lot of it in the very, very, very dark. 

Dion 

But that’s what worked, man. 

Quinny 

Absolutely. Like there are a lot of sequences moving around through dark houses and at night and stuff like that, which you know is one of those great tropes of all things horror. I do remember watching something recently only in the last couple of years where I was blown away that they did a horror, but in full daylight. 

Jill 

Oh, OK. 

Quinny 

And I’m bugged if I remember what it was, but it it it really impressed me that they managed to do. In full light, this one does a bit of it here and then the really. 

Speaker 7 

The character I. 

Quinny 

Wanted to call out that I thought was really impressive. Was James the our junkie buddy, really? 

Speaker 8 

OK, well, I was impressive. 

Quinny 

His character, like in terms of performance wise. Not likable, not likable at all, but the energy that he came at that with. 

Speaker 

No. 

Quinny 

Like the the really nervous ****** ** energy and the like. The complete sort of. Unreliability of the character I was like ****, that’s a really good performance. I don’t like the guy. I don’t like him at all, but that’s cause it’s a really good performance. 

Speaker 8 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Yeah, that’s true. 

Dion 

You know? Yeah. I mean, yeah, that was like, I mean, to be honest, halfway like by the time we got to that character, I didn’t know how they were going to make him scary because he is just a junkie. And they did do some pretty good, scary, scary scenes with that just really boring situation. Technically, when you look back at it after the jump scares and after everything has happened, you’re like ****. That was so tense. For something that was really boring. 

Quinny 

There is a sequence and I the possibly the sequence that the whole cinema reacted to the most. 

Speaker 

MHM. 

Quinny 

And. I don’t. It’s what I love about it and I’m not going to try and describe it because it it would be doing it a disservice to describe the sequence. But what I loved about it was that it was. Fear created almost purely through sound. Like there’s a visual element to it. Something that is this growing danger. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

But then the use of sound was the thing that made the whole audience go **** no. Like literally the guy behind me when you heard a particular sound that door open just went oh, no. Oh, no, no. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

No. And I heard. 

Jill 

The dream sequence. 

Speaker 6 

No, no, no. OK, it’s. 

Dion 

It’s this like this, like stalking sequence. 

Quinny 

In a car. 

Speaker 7 

Ohh. 

Dion 

Yeah. Yeah, right. 

Speaker 7 

Yep, Yep. 

Dion 

See this is this is what I’m talking about the the the ability to create tension based around very boring, very banal, very normal ****. 

Speaker 6 

Mm-hmm. 

Dion 

In this is great. By doing you know great things. I was like, great. It’s gonna be in t