#22 - Phil Lee - From Chik-Fil-A to Spice Entrepreneur
The New School Dad Podcast with Matt Bank · Matt Bank
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Phil's twitter: https://x.com/PhilipLee_ENAK
ENAK's twitter: https://x.com/EnakFlavors
Enak Website: https://enakflavors.com/
In this episode of The New School Dad Podcast, Matt sits down with Phil Lee — father, two-time Ironman, pastor, and founder of ENAK Flavors — to unpack what it really looks like to take a leap when your family depends on you.
Phil shares his definition of “New School Dad,” the pressure he felt moving his family back to the U.S., and the moment in Walmart where he questioned if he could even provide. He opens up about the grind of restaurant leadership, the mental load of never being fully “off,” and the fear of missing his daughter’s childhood. From losing 50+ pounds to pushing through open-water panic, Phil explains how discipline, agency, and doing hard things shaped him — and why he invested $15K into ENAK to create urgency and build a life he could control.
If you’ve ever felt stuck between security and calling, this conversation will hit home.