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The NAVigator

The NAVigator

Active Investment Company Alliance

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Show overview

The NAVigator has been publishing since 2020, and across the 6 years since has built a catalogue of 311 episodes. That works out to roughly 65 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence.

Episodes typically run ten to twenty minutes — most land between 11 min and 13 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 4 days ago, with 26 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Active Investment Company Alliance.

Episodes
311
Running
2020–2026 · 6y
Median length
12 min
Cadence
Weekly

From the publisher

The NAVigator, from the Active Investment Company Alliance (AICA), talks all-weather investing and "excellence beyond indexing" through the use of closed-end funds (CEFs) & business-development companies (BDCs). AICA – a new organization that includes a diverse constituency that runs from investors through fund sponsors – aims to help investors & advisors plot a new and different course to financial success, via the tactical use of securities that mix active management within listed & non-listed structures. Subscribe now to get regular updates on everything you need to know to succeed with CEFs & BDCs.

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CEF Data's Scott on the takeaways from Dechert's Private Credit Summit

Jun 26, 202613 min

Landmark Supreme Court decision is a game-changer for investor activism

Jun 18, 202616 min

In a tight-spread, higher-for-longer rate market, discounts matter again

Jun 12, 202614 min

Bluerock's Baffico says private credit will benefit from the HALO trade

Jun 5, 202616 min

Kayne's Hamilton: 'Historic' oil drawdowns create energy infrastructure opportunities

May 29, 202614 min

Sit's Doty says rates will rise, peak and shift downward by year's end

May 22, 202617 min

CEF Advisors' Scott breaks down how bad news has impacted BDCs

May 15, 202612 min

Calamos' Freund: Concerns are 'distractions,' not market impediments

May 8, 202616 min

Enduring investment lessons from the legendary Mark Mobius

May 1, 202617 min

Liberty Street's Gutierrez on private investment trends in A.I.

Apr 24, 202615 min

Veteran manager says that for all the headline risks, this is a 'generic widening'

Apr 17, 202612 min

Despite scary headlines, low-A.I.-risk BDCs are worth a new look now

With the market kicking business-development companies in the teeth, John Cole Scott , President of CEF Advisors, digs into his firm's data looking at "artificial-intelligence risk scoring" to find BDCs that have been hurt by headlines without holding tainted portfolios. BDCs relied heavily on software companies, due to the tech sector's blend of strong fundamentals, innovation and ability to resist economic fluctuations, but have suffered as investors fear for the future of software in the face of challenges from artificial-intelligence companies. Scott, who also serves as chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, went looking for BDC's with "low AI risk, clean credit and sensible leverage and costs," and came away from the analysis convinced that investors should lean into the troubles. Specifically, he mentions funds from Nuveen and Kayne Anderson as worth watching now.

Apr 10, 202613 min

Nuveen's Weyandt on why current events make listed real assets look good

Matt Weyandt, a client Portfolio Manager on the listed real assets team at Nuveen, discusses how buying "location-specific hard assets" in essential industries that deliver to a "Halo theme" — heavy asset, low obsolescence — creates a buffer against a market that is being driven by headlines and geopolitical risks. Weyandt says that real estate, infrastructure, utilities, midstream energy companies, communications and commodities are not immune to the headlines, but they are built to deliver regardless of market conditions, and he discusses Nuveen's wide range of options for accessing those assets through closed-end funds.

Apr 2, 202616 min

XA's Flynn on how private credit market is challenging BDCs, interval funds

Kim Flynn, president at XA Investments, a firm that specializes in alternative investments, says recent private-credit bad news events have widened discounts and raised concerns over business-development companies and interval funds, but have likely created a buy-the-dip moment in the industry. She discusses how fund sponsors and advisers must do a better job educating investors on how these products get through worrisome times, but says she does not think the headlines or their attendant challenges on direct lenders will discourage yield-hungry private-credit investors in the long run.

Mar 27, 202615 min

John Cole Scott on how headline risks are impacting closed-end funds

John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, says that closed-end funds are being buffeted in two directions due to current headlines, with war in Iran impacting net asset values and anchored interest rates impacting levered closed-end funds and discounts shifting to reflect both situations. Scott, who also serves as the Chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, says sectors that have benefitted from the chaos have been MPL and energy funds, while business-development companies and CLO equity funds have suffered. Scott also put his firm's "Trifecta analysis" to work, with four funds to consider now: ticker symbols AFB, ARDC, CSQ and MEGI.

Mar 20, 202614 min

Aberdeen's Gilhooly says oil could quickly reach $175 per barrel

Robert Gilhooly, Senior Emerging Markets Economist at Aberdeen Investments, says that the continuing war in Iran has put pressure on oil prices, but he expects them to stabilize short-term while the market determines what happens next. If the outlook becomes one where the Straits of Hormuz are closed off to shipments for a longer stretch of time, he says "If things get really bad, you could be talking $175 for a barrel of oil." Gilhooly discusses the investment adage that the first shots of war signal a time to buy, and says that investors likely will see solid opportunities, but that they might want to wait a little longer for more clarity if they didn't jump in with the very first shots. He also discusses how tensions should be good for income-producing investments like closed-end funds.

Mar 13, 202614 min

Bluerock's MacDonald says 'uniquely boring' private real estate is value-priced now

Ryan MacDonald, Portfolio Manager for the Bluerock Private Real Estate Fund, says that in a world teeming with market worries and broad geopolitical concerns, private real estate is "uniquely boring, in a good way." He says the market has taken its pain over the last three years through interest rate changes and the market cycle, but now values have receded creating a solid entry point. MacDonald, who also serves as chief investment officer at Bluerock, says that "Entry point is the single biggest driver of future value for private real estate returns," and he notes that on an inflation-adjusted basis, the market is now approaching valuation levels "not seen since the depths of the 2008 financial crisis."

Mar 6, 202617 min

John Cole Scott: BDC worries are creating headlines, opportunities

The stock market has been beating up business-development companies, with the sell-off largely being blamed on the artificial intelligence boom and the high number of loans that BDCs make to software firms. Behind the theory that software companies will struggle to pay debts as artificial intelligence renders their products less useful and attractive, there are real loans, and John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, digs into the math that is impacting the lenders and BDCs in general. Scott, who also serves as Chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, discusses two BDCs and shows how the headlines could be creating values that make the industry more attractive, not less, for investors who understand and measure the risk.

Feb 27, 202616 min

John Cole Scott evaluates Robinhood's new private-stock closed-end fund

Robinhood Markets is launching its first closed-end fund, Robinhood Ventures Fund I, with the first IPO the closed-end fund space has seen in about four years and John Cole Scott, President of CEF Advisors, sizes up the prospects for the new issue, which intends to be a concentrated portfolio of private companies. Scott, the chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, discusses the role private equities can play in a portfolio, as well as the challenges investors face in sizing up a fund with a net asset value entirely based on the purported market value of shares that don't trade in public markets.

Feb 20, 202616 min

Saratoga's Oberbeck: Headline troubles aren't signalling systemic credit issues

Chris Oberbeck, chairman and chief executive officer at Saratoga Investment Corp., says that increases in default rates are more of a return to normal than a sign of trouble for business-development companies or the economy. While stories like the First Brands bankruptcy and fraud case have market watchers looking for more trouble, the rest of the headlines in the industry are much more routine, which leads Oberbeck to think that recent activity is more a hangover coming from a time of particularly low defaults, rather than a sign of the start of a bad business cycle.

Feb 13, 202613 min
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