The Mismatch

Verno and KOC react to the Knicks-Hawks trade involving Cam Reddish and Kevin Knox. They debate the low-risk move and discuss how Reddish can succeed in New York (05:49) before asking whether there is any hope left for Knox (11:58). The Grizzlies continue their tear across the league, beating the Timberwolves to extend their win streak to 11, and the guys take a closer look at the Wolves' roster (25:38). They also highlight Draymond Green’s importance to the Warriors after their blowout loss to the Bucks (30:05). Should the Warriors trade some of their young players and find impact players to extend their championship window? With Dame now out indefinitely, the guys discuss the next potential moves for the Blazers (46:28). Lastly, they debate whether all the Ben Simmons talk is tiring or fascinating (58:19). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to 'The Void' as Kevin O'Connor brings you deep inside the NBA with the people who know it best. KOC goes deep into the state of Texas for today’s guest as he is joined by The Ringer's Jonathan Tjarks, host of 'Upside High.' They go into the Mavericks' improvement on defense under Jason Kidd and compare his coaching style to Rick Carlisle (05:19). Tjarks also points out how Kidd uses Luka Doncic differently on offense before answering if Luka needs to fail in order to achieve in the NBA (13:14). They speak the truth when it comes to Kristaps Porzingis (19:21). With the trade deadline looming, they debate which teams (if any) are a perfect fit for Domantas Sabonis and Myles Turner (23:44). Lastly they discuss Draymond Green’s low-key resurgence and why he’s key for the Warriors to win it all (37:02). Host: Kevin O'Connor Guest: Jonathan Tjarks Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Klay Thompson's exciting return to the hardwood over the weekend (00:56). With Klay back, the guys debate which teams in the West are for real (11:27). The Raptors are riding a six-game win streak entering Tuesday night’s game versus the Suns, so the guys discuss the Raptors' turnaround and Fred VanVleet’s All-Star season (21:42). The Joel Embiid superstar experience is here, as he’s helped the 76ers win eight of their past nine games (27:46). The Hawks are the latest team to be linked to Ben Simmons, so the guys debate what would be the right trade to benefit both franchises (34:06). With the trade deadline a few weeks away, they take a look at where Myles Turner could go and debate whether the Kings are going to have a fire sale or make a push for a playoff spot (47:02). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss last night’s wild Knicks victory over the Celtics. They go over the lack of leadership on the Celtics and debate whether Jayson Tatum or Jaylen Brown can become that true leader the franchise needs (03:16). With the trade deadline approaching, what moves can Brad Stevens make to improve the roster (18:09)? While discussing Julius Randle’s thumbs-down gesture in last night's game, KOC asks Verno how he would react if he were playing in today’s NBA (26:55). Help is on the way for the Clippers, as it has been reported that Kawhi Leonard could return this season from a torn ACL (35:23). Verno finally got a chance to see last year’s top draft choice, Cade Cunningham, and he was not impressed (44:17). Lastly, they go through some of the top stories in the NBA, including Kyrie Irving’s return and Hawks trade rumors (51:50). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to 'The Void' as Kevin O'Connor brings you deep inside the NBA with the people who know it best. KOC goes internal for today’s guest as he brings on The Ringer's J. Kyle Mann, host of 'Upside High'. They start with a rapid-fire discussion of some of the teams that played last night before looking at the Thunder's roster (01:21). Among the young and promising players on the Thunder is Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, but can he ever become THE guy (21:09)? Nicolas Claxton is one of the few big men on the Nets roster, but the guys debate if he is their most important big man (35:30). Kyle discusses what he sees in Rockets rookie Jalen Green before looking at the Bucks depth around Giannis (39:15). They next look at the Magic roster, specifically at rookie Franz Wagner (51:50). Lastly, they look at Auburn's Jabari Smith Jr. and discuss his NBA potential (59:50). Host: Kevin O'Connor Guest: J. Kyle Mann Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC jump right into last night’s Grizzlies win over the Nets (00:50). KOC is all in on the Grizz and believes they are only getting better. In looking at the Nets, the guys debate what the root issues are for the team (10:51). The guys keep getting surprised by how good DeMar DeRozan has been and how much he’s elevated the Bulls this season (19:39). Luka Doncic returned to the court over the weekend, and the guys discuss how he can continue to grow as a player (29:51). They also discuss Anfernee Simons’s career night vs. the Hawks, whether Jerami Grant can go back to being a role player if traded away, the excitement for Klay Thompson’s return, and the mess going in Houston (39:37). Finally, they discuss Becky Hammon's departure from the Spurs to coach in the WNBA (55:43). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to ‘The Void,’ where Kevin O’Connor brings you deep inside the NBA with the people who know it best. KOC brings on Gibson Pyper, basketball coach and owner/creator of The Basketball Playbook and YouTube channel Half Court Hoops. Gibson joins KOC to take a look at four NBA franchises that can’t get over the hump to reach a championship. The first team they look at is the Boston Celtics; they discuss the team’s lost identity (04:02) and debate whether Jaylen Brown should be the one taking that last shot instead of Jayson Tatum (08:00). They next look over the Utah Jazz and discuss the franchise’s inability to get creative with Rudy Gobert (14:05). Then they take a long look at the Portland Trail Blazers and debate what moves, if any, they can make (24:26). They last discuss the fading Los Angeles Clippers (38:21), before Gibson shares why he loves to coach (44:58). Host: Kevin O’Connor Guests: Gibson Pyper Producers: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the final episode of 2021, Verno and KOC discuss Monday night’s Grizzlies win over the Suns, as Ja Morant hit the game-winning floater in the final seconds. The guys debate whether the Grizz can finish with a top-four record and discuss the team’s ceiling going forward (05:47). With the Western Conference being weaker overall, KOC believes that LeBron and the Lakers will eventually turn it on, but Verno has lost all confidence with the team and doesn't believe it can make any kind of noise (15:19). They also revisit the idea of a Russell Westbrook–for–John Wall swap (20:33). The Bulls are currently sitting at no. 2 in the East, and the guys discuss why they are so good this season and what pieces they need to truly compete for a championship (26:51). The discussion of an in-season NBA tournament returned over the weekend and the guys are both in agreement that this could be an exciting move for the NBA (39:53). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to ‘The Void’ as Kevin O’Connor brings you deep inside the NBA with the people who know it best. KOC brings on Sportsnet 950 The FAN hosts and Toronto Raptors reporters Blake Murphy and William Lou. They discuss DeMar DeRozan’s improvement as a player since leaving the Raptors (02:10) before looking at his performance this season with the Bulls (07:20). KOC confesses his love for Raptors rookie wingman Scottie Barnes, and they discuss why his playing style is so exciting (17:01). KOC points out the Raptors’ odd roster construction and they debate whether the franchise should make a move for a big man (28:50). Then they go around the league including a convention about a league X-factor, Warriors rookie Jonathan Kuminga (43:02). Lastly, a bonus conversion taken from Kevin’s interview on Spotify Greenroom with Magic rookie point guard Jalen Suggs about life in the NBA, dealing with losing, and one of the elite 2022 draft prospects (49:07). Host: Kevin O’Connor Guests: Blake Murphy, William Lou and Jalen Suggs Producers: Jessie Lopez and Dylan Berkey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With Christmas around the corner, Verno and KOC get into their Christmas lists for teams in the NBA (02:19), including getting the Nets healthy, Joel Embiid continuing to play at an MVP level, and ideal playoff scenarios. They next discuss their trade wish list (20:45). Should the Knicks make a move for De'Aaron Fox? Will the Pacers trade Domantas Sabonis AND Myles Turner? KOC has a special Christmas wish for Pistons rookie Cade Cunningham (34:03) while Verno gets giddy about Thunder rookie Josh Giddey (45:56). Last but not least, they go through which NBA records they hope to see broken next (56:08). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin Durant is on a tear and has the Nets on his back, but it’s the surrounding role players who are impressing Verno and KOC the most. KOC gives props to the Nets front office for finding the pieces that fit next to KD (03:23). They get into how defending the 3-point shot is key in this era of the NBA (08:45). KOC is adamant that the 76ers should be patient with Ben Simmons and doesn’t believe that he will sit out the entire year if he’s not traded (18:41). They next discuss the issues going on in Portland and debate the best route for the franchise to turn it around (22:43). The guys were excited to see the Wizards' hot start to the season, but the magic seemed to run out as they dropped from first place in the East to seventh (31:37). They debate whether the Wiz’s issues are completely tied to Bradley Beal. In looking around the association, the guys discuss Klay Thompson’s return, the Grizzlies' success without Ja, and Zion Williamson’s injury woes (47:10). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to 'The Void,' as Kevin O'Connor brings you deep inside the NBA with the people who know it best. In today’s episode, KOC sits down with ‘Thinking Basketball’ author and YouTuber Ben Taylor. They break down Steph Curry’s greatness fresh off him breaking the 3-point record (02:46). Steph has been the early favorite for MVP this season and they dive into his career legacy. While the spotlight is on Steph Curry, Ben points out that Nikola Jokic is quietly having a Steph Curry–like season (13:42). They then discuss the rise of zone defenses in the NBA (21:09). Julius Randle has struggled this season after having a career year last season, and the guys debate whether he will ever get back his previous level of success (30:20). Ben agrees with KOC that the Celtics tandem of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown can still be the guys, but the team needs to put better pieces around them (38:43). In previewing tonight’s matchup between the Clippers and Jazz, Ben goes off because no one is realizing how good the Jazz’s offense has been this season (46:33). Host: Kevin O'Connor Guests: Ben Taylor Producers: Jessie Lopez and Dylan Berkey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the potential return of Kyrie Irving (01:01). Despite the Nets being on top in the East, KOC argues that the Nets still need him. While discussing the surprising Cavs team, the guys cheer for Kevin Love, who has played a lot better as of late (06:22). They discuss more reasons why the Cavs are succeeding and what the future holds for the franchise. Verno was excited to watch the 76ers last night until they announced that Joel Embiid wasn’t going to play. They both agree that without Embiid, the 76ers aren’t very good and debate different moves the franchise can make (19:57). They also look at the sad state of the Kings franchise (25:54). KOC is adamant that the Celtics will find a way to win with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown (31:54). With the trade deadline inching closer the guys debate whether any big moves will be made before the year ends (36:44). Finally, they get excited at the potential return of Isaiah Thomas, as he signed with the Nuggets G-League affiliate (46:16). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Grizzlies-Lakers game from Thursday night. Verno was there and he details his experience watching the purple and gold up close for the first time this season (01:26). Anthony Davis hasn’t been the same kind of player and it was evident vs. the Grizz, so the guys debate what his issue is (05:21). They also take a deeper look at the Lakers' roster and coaching staff and identify all the issues they’ve had this season (12:53). They next look at the 76ers and debate whether Ben Simmons will get moved before the deadline (25:34). They have some fun and imagine Simmons getting traded to the Spurs and how his personality would fit in San Antonio (31:56). They next discuss what the heck is going on with the Pacers (41:08). Verno discovers that the Pacers haven’t had many bad seasons while KOC believes that now is the perfect time for them to start a rebuild. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to The Void! Kevin O'Connor brings you deep inside the NBA with the people who know it best. In this episode, KOC is joined by Mike Vigil and Sam Cooper from 'The Timeline: A Phoenix Suns Podcast' to discuss the rise of the Suns franchise. They discuss how Chris Paul completely changed his style of play (03:06) and the improvement of Deandre Ayton (09:17). KOC is all aboard the Payne train, as they discuss the perfect bench pairing of Cameron Payne and JaVale McGee (13:46) before diving into Mikal Bridges‘s route to DPOY (15:35). They point to Devin Booker’s efficiency as a reason for his overall improvement (24:16). The guys look around the association to see which teams are a few moves away from contending. KOC makes a bold statement about Cavs rookie Evan Mobley, but Sam believes he could be on to something (32:25). Also, they discuss how James Harden could benefit from taking more midrange jumpers (45:40). Lastly, they debate what, if any, moves the Suns can make down the stretch (52:32). Host: Kevin O'Connor Guests: Mike Vigil and Sam Cooper Producers: Jessie Lopez and Dylan Berkey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Joel Embiid’s return to the court after COVID-19 (02:59) and discuss how the virus could potentially derail a team if it's not safe (06:05). The Grizzlies are undefeated since Ja Morant went down with injury, and Verno points out a very interesting stat during their current five-game win streak (08:10). The guys just cannot believe how good Giannis Antetokounmpo is and both believe that the Bucks are the best team in the league right now (27:44). Verno fully believes that the tandem of LeBron James and Anthony Davis are the best in the league, but the Lakers' issues are more deeply rooted (32:52). The guys debate whether Ben Simmons is the answer for the Blazers (40:28) and wonder whether the 76ers would take a trade package centered on CJ McCollum. And as Klay Thompson nears his return, the guys joke that Steph Curry is out to break Klay’s record for most 3-pointers made in a game (55:03). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Grizzlies' record-setting night as they beat the Thunder by 73 points! Verno was there, and he describes the scene inside FedEx Forum throughout the game (01:58). After joking at the Thunder’s expense, they take a hard look at the franchise and debate whether stockpiling draft picks is the right way to go (07:22). After losing by 31 points to the Spurs and dropping below .500, there is a definite need for a change in Portland as KOC explores the real issues and speaks the truth on what the franchise and Dame Lillard need to do (13:31). The Suns are riding an 18-game winning streak going into tonight’s game against the Warriors, and the guys describe the defensive prowess of Suns wingman Mikal Bridges (30:12). Despite DPOY being known as a "big-man" award, the guys believe that Bridges should be strongly considered. They also take a break from hardwood talk to discuss whether they could live in a world without the internet (41:47). They lastly go around the Association and discuss the hottest stories going into the weekend (46:43). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KOC tried to recap his Thanksgiving holiday, but Verno wasn’t having it and the two get right down to the NBA action. Despite the league being more balanced than in years past, last night’s slate of games didn’t reflect that (01:48). Out of the nine games played yesterday, only one was competitive. Verno and KOC discuss the underappreciated play of Rockets big man Christian Wood before debating what the team should do with John Wall (08:40). Don’t look now, but the Timberwolves are rolling, having won seven of their past eight games, and the guys talk about the great play of Anthony Edwards and other T-Wolves during their hot stretch (15:26). Jonas Valanciunas did his best Dirk impression as he helped the Pelicans take down the Clippers with seven 3s and a career-high 39 points (23:00). The guys also discus how the Warriors are simply “murdering” teams in the third quarter before getting into tonight’s matchup versus the Suns (29:04). Kemba Walker has been officially benched by Thibs, and they consider what the future holds for Kemba before going into the other issues with the Knicks (38:36). Lastly, they discuss the Bucks' signing of Boogie Cousins (55:34). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Kings' disgusting loss to the 76ers last night. After Luke Walton’s firing, the guys thought the Kings would show more passion and fight. One thing is for sure: It all starts at the top for the Kings. (07:03) They debate whether De’Aaron Fox is the most overrated point guard in the league and compare his career to Ja Morant's. (17:23) Then they go over the near–'Fight Club' scene between Isaiah Stewart and LeBron James. (29:07) They also discuss Cade Cunningham’s successful start to his rookie campaign. (38:42) Lastly, they discuss last night's epic game between the Grizzles and Jazz (45:56) before discussing the run made by the Suns, who have won 13 straight (57:06). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Steph’s performance this season as he’s averaging 42 percent from the 3-point line and has gained support for MVP (1:09). Then, they touch on the 76ers, from the up-and-coming Tyrese Maxey to another advancement in the Ben Simmons saga as Daryl Morey states there are 30 players he would trade Simmons for (11:16). Then they talk about league executives potentially forming an association (27:12), and weigh in on potential Finals contenders (39:56). Then they wrap things up with Zion Williamson and Klay Thompson updates, and Crypto.com Arena thoughts. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Associate Producer: Erika Cervantes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As the Eastern Conference continues to surprise us, Verno and KOC break down three teams that are exceeding expectations. Then the guys discuss abysmal starts for the Pelicans and Rockets (which gets Verno very fired up), struggles for the LeBron-less Lakers, and many other story lines. Hosts: Chris Vernon, Kevin O’Connor Producers: Jessie Lopez, Troy Farkas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC touch on the Pacers-Jazz game resulting in four ejections and discuss the side effect of a higher level of physicality in the game (0:58). Then they discuss Toronto’s win at Philly and the new advancement in the Ben Simmons saga, with reports about his mental health (27:27). Lastly, they weigh in on Tom Thibodeau benching his starters and discuss how the Knicks rank among the rest (58:08). Hosts: Chris Vernon, Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Erika Cervantes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC begin by discussing the Bulls’ 7-3 start and how uncommon it is for new rosters to come roaring out of the gates like this. Then, the guys talk about another huge performance from Stephen Curry and why it feels like Golden State could recapture its former glory this season (20:43). Plus, the guys react to rule changes affecting James Harden and Trae Young, trade rumors around Ben Simmons and Jaylen Brown (50:53), Carmelo Anthony’s resurgence as a role player, and much more. Hosts: Chris Vernon, Kevin O’Connor Producer: Troy Farkas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start by talking about upset wins on Thursday night by the Celtics and Thunder (1:03). Then they discuss all the major news items that have been reported this week, including Damian Lillard’s meeting with LeBron James and Anthony Davis in the summer (28:09), the racism and misogyny within the Phoenix Suns organization (41:36), and Ben Simmons not seeing team physicians (55:03). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Production Assistant: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Chicago Bulls' tremendous early returns, the Boston Celtics’ need for leadership, and the Miami Heat’s blistering start to the season, as well as some other impressive (and not-so-impressive) runs. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Isaac Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Manic and excitable after a very late night of Grizzlies-Warriors basketball (0:30), Verno and KOC play a game called “That’s True, That Might Be True, That’s Ridiculous,” in which Chris states an overreaction from this NBA season so far and Kevin deems it either true, possibly true, or ridiculous (10:45). They start with the future of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown’s relationship (14:45), and discuss other topics like James Harden’s issues (22:40), the Wizards’ newfound success (50:15), and much more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back talking about the best games from this past week of basketball, starting with Bulls-Raptors and the question of whether the Bulls can sustain their current success (0:45) and Celtics-Hornets and how fantastic Ish Smith has been for Charlotte (7:45). Then they discuss the rule changes that have resulted in far less free throws for one James Harden (14:15), the incredible dunks from Jaylen Brown, Lauri Markkanen, and more (24:51), and Danny Ainge’s comments to Kendrick Perkins solidifying his commitment to Jaylen Brown (32:30). Finally, they take a look at some of the young guys who are popping off the screen early, including Jalen Green (35:24), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (39:15), and Ja Morant (44:00). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first discuss all the issues with the NBA 75 rollout over the past week, including the most glaring omissions and the fact that it ended up actually being the NBA 76 (0:30). Then they give 10 first impressions from the first three days of NBA games this season, starting with Jason Kidd’s poor showing against the Hawks (12:24) and Tyler Herro’s fantastic performance against the Bucks (17:51), and moving on to the Nets’ rotation issues (22:15), Evan Mobley’s great game against the Grizzlies (32:12), Russell Westbrook’s tough season opener with the Lakers (40:22), and more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Opening day is here! Verno and KOC first react to all the contract extensions that occurred (or didn't) before the deadline (0:40). Then they get into all their predictions for the 2021-22 NBA season, including playoff seeding in the East and West (18:17) and their awards forecasts (40:40). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first touch on the recent developments in Zion Williamson’s health (0:35) and Kyrie Irving’s Instagram Live explaining why he won’t get vaccinated (10:50). Then they ask each other 10 questions about the upcoming season, including which new coach will have the greatest impact on their team, which top 10 pick from last year’s draft will take a leap this season, and more (22:40). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC delve into the developments of Kyrie Irving’s situation in Brooklyn, with the Nets releasing a statement saying he will not be practicing or playing games until he can be a full-time member of the team (0:52). They also discuss Ben Simmons’s return to the city of Philadelphia (11:30) and the news that Zion Williamson has yet to begin running again after getting foot surgery (28:33). Then they talk about eight people to keep an eye on this season, including Klay Thompson, Deandre Ayton, Jason Kidd, Russell Westbrook, and more (35:31). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss what KOC learned after spending some time with the Brooklyn Nets, including Harden’s newfound leadership and the love players have for head coach Steve Nash (0:35). Then they get into their eight intriguing observations from preseason, such as Jordan Poole’s leap, Anthony Edwards’s maturity, and many more (28:00). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first go over the surprises and revelations from NBA.com’s recently released 2021-22 GM Survey (0:50). Then Chris asks Kevin to assess his preseason overreactions on the Nets, Kings, Nuggets, Clippers, and many more after the first big set of preseason games (27:00). Finally, they discuss breaking news from Adrian Wojnarowski that the Suns are balking on giving Deandre Ayton the maximum rookie contract extension (57:40). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Happy Friday! Joel Embiid unloaded the clip in response to rumors that Ben Simmons is done playing with him, so Verno and KOC dissect the most interesting parts of Embiid’s statement (0:45). Then they talk about the ESPN and Sports Illustrated NBA player rankings for the 2020-21 season (26:35) and the three teams they’re looking forward to watching in preseason (36:30). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Media day is upon us! Verno and KOC discuss the vaccine hype at the various media days across the NBA (1:10), before getting into some of the other revelations from Monday. First up, they talk about Zion Williamson’s secret foot surgery (15:10) and the recent reporting in The Athletic with some extra sauce from KOC that Ben Simmons is truly done playing with Embiid in Philadelphia (22:15). Then they talk about Michael Porter Jr.’s max extension with the Nuggets (38:15), what could happen with John Wall in Houston (45:45), Klay Thompson's comeback from injury (50:30), and The Athletic’s report about the Lakers’ offseason recruiting strategies (55:00). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first dig into the reporting on the sudden dismissal of Timberwolves general manager Gersson Rosas (0:45) and discuss a few of the particulars of the Ben Simmons situation in Philly (15:00). Then we answer listener questions about the Raptors, potential Most Improved Players, and much more in our final mailbag of the offseason (23:00). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC take a look back to 2019 to evaluate their previous picks for which NBA player islands to inhabit, most of which are pretty unfortunate and some of which have come off well (0:45). Then they choose some new islands from the pool of lottery picks currently in the NBA (23:40). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After a bit of banter about Thursday night’s Cowboys-Buccaneers game (0:30), Verno and KOC talk about some of the developments in the Ben Simmons saga (5:30). Then they dig into the mailbag to answer listener questions about basketball and life (14:30). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Free agency may be winding down, but you can’t stop NBA players from opening their mouths. Verno and KOC discuss Kyle Kuzma’s comments on ‘The No Chill Podcast’ that the Buddy Hield trade was basically in the books before the Lakers pivoted to the Russell Westbrook trade (0:30), Jonathan Isaac’s comments that he and the Magic are being very cautious with his return from injury (14:40), and Michael Porter Jr.’s comments to the Denver Post that his contract extension negotiations with the Nuggets are going well (28:30). Then they dive into more Ben Simmons rumors from Sam Amick of The Athletic, who reported that the Kings were not willing to give up De’Aaron Fox or Tyrese Haliburton in a trade for Simmons (46:40). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Before opening up the mailbag, Verno and KOC talk about the recent reports that Ben Simmons has informed the 76ers that he will not show up to training camp in September (0:30), as well as the news that LaMarcus Aldridge has been cleared to play in the NBA again and that Paul Millsap has signed with the Nets (17:12). Then they get into some listener questions, such as what the Kings should do with Buddy Hield (21:20), what the Rockets should do with John Wall (29:25), whether the Cavaliers’ small backcourt can work (39:45), and much more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s a tradition like no other. Verno and KOC play an NBA offseason edition of "Do You Believe…?" They definitely believe in life after love, but do they believe that there is a trade out there for Kevin Love (0:30)? They hit on that and the likelihood of Ben Simmons wearing a 76ers uniform on opening night (15:30), whether ‘Donda’ is any good (21:00), and whether the Heat are a top-four team in the East now (29:05). Then they talk about whether the Clippers are going to be good without Kawhi Leonard (31:35), Kevin’s level of excitement about Patriots rookie Mac Jones (41:00), Luka’s chances at winning MVP this season (51:00), and more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Up top, Verno and KOC chat about the stacked team the University of Memphis has put together for this upcoming season with Emoni Bates (0:30) and then react to the breaking news that Lauri Markkanen has finally been dealt in a three-team trade to the Cavaliers, sending Larry Nance Jr. to the Blazers and Derrick Jones Jr. plus draft assets to the Bulls (9:10). Then we get into listener questions, starting with a couple on the Hornets and LaMelo Ball’s ascension (13:50), the Mavericks and Kristaps Porzingis’s decline (22:05), and quite a lot more! Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first talk about some of the particulars of the NBA schedule that was released on Friday, including how the national games are spread around (0:30). Then they talk about the Josh Richardson extension in Boston and how the Celtics are collecting strong assets for a potential trade for Bradley Beal (10:55). After that they discuss the new Overtime Elite league, which is backed by the likes of Drake, Kevin Durant, and Jeff Bezos, and how targeting high school prospects with big-money contracts threatens college basketball (19:12). Finally, they get into reporting from Jon Krawczynski that the Timberwolves are still pursuing a trade for Ben Simmons that could include a third team (40:18), the Celtics retiring Kevin Garnett’s number (46:40), and Klay Thompson’s potential return to the court around Christmas (56:05). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start off the show by wrapping up their thoughts from summer league after Davion Mitchell shut the Celtics down with his lockdown defense and cemented his reputation as a fierce defender (0:45). Then they get into some of the news from around the league like Terry Rozier’s extension with the Hornets (23:00), Patrick Beverley’s potential impact on the heretofore struggling Timberwolves team (25:35), and what they expect to see from the NBA 2021-2022 schedule that’s dropping later today (41:35). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start with all the news and movement around the league. First they dig into Joel Embiid’s supermax extension with the Philadelphia 76ers (0:30) and Marcus Smart’s four-year extension with the Celtics (11:30). Then they get into the Grizzlies-Timberwolves trade, which sent Patrick Beverley to Minnesota and Jarrett Culver and Juancho Hernangomez to Memphis (21:23). Finally, Summer League is coming to a close, so Verno and KOC touch on the upcoming championship game between the Celtics and Kings (34:25), discuss the team they think should be the happiest coming out of Vegas, the Knicks (38:54), and examine Luka Garza’s two-way deal with the Pistons (47:18). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin O’Connor has landed in Las Vegas for summer league, so he and Chris dive into all of their observations, starting with how last year’s rookie class is faring and whether we underrated them because of the challenges created by COVID-19 (1:00). Then they talk about Cam Thomas’s incredible scoring bonanza and his fit on the Nets (13:20), the contributions of a few undrafted players, like Isaiah Miller and Omer Yurtseven (21:18), Kevin finally seeing Alperen Sengun play in person (28:45), and which players people in Las Vegas are buzzing about (33:00). Finally, The Ringer’s Mirin Fader joins to talk about her new book, 'Giannis: The Improbable Rise of an NBA MVP' (37:05). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Guest: Mirin Fader Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC do a big summer league catchup after the first few days of play, starting with this year’s rookie class and why rookies are more able than ever to contribute to a winning team in the NBA (1:00). They take a closer look at standout Kings rookie Davion Mitchell (34:00), Cade Cunningham’s leadership (43:00), and Alperen Sengun’s play for the Rockets (0:00). Then they talk about the sophomore players in summer league, including Desmond Bane, Obi Toppin, and Tyrese Maxey, as well as the veteran players who have popped up (44:40). Finally, a drop of news about where Dennis Schröder may end up has broken: the Celtics have offered a one-year, $5.6 million deal (1:00:45). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back and full of anticipation for the Olympic gold-medal game between France and Team USA Friday night (0:30). They are also full of joy at Andre Iguodala’s return to the Warriors for what he says could be his final years in the NBA, but they’re concerned that the Warriors haven’t done enough to maximize the end of Steph Curry’s prime (7:50). Then they are full of tidbits as they move through several of the other rumors and transactions from around the league (24:57), including where Lauri Markkanen could end up (27:40), Kemba Walker to the Knicks (28:36), the Wizards’ new and improved roster (34:12), Mike D’Antoni becoming a consultant in New Orleans (38:40), and much more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KOC and Verno rejoin after the draft and the first night of free agency to discuss the big trades and deals that went down. They start in Miami, where Jimmy Butler and Kyle Lowry got excellent deals (01:19), then move on to Chicago, which L.A. favorite Alex Caruso and Lonzo Ball will now call home (06:29). They also talk about their favorite surprise contracts out of the first night (19:50) as well as their reactions to the NBA draft (31:18). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As the NBA draft nears, Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor talk about all of the big moves the top teams are looking to make, including Memphis making a big trade to move to the top 10 in picks (01:46). Also Chris talks about some inside info he's gathered on some of the top players to watch for and what some teams and execs think about them (30:58). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices