The Mismatch

Free agency may be winding down, but you can’t stop NBA players from opening their mouths. Verno and KOC discuss Kyle Kuzma’s comments on ‘The No Chill Podcast’ that the Buddy Hield trade was basically in the books before the Lakers pivoted to the Russell Westbrook trade (0:30), Jonathan Isaac’s comments that he and the Magic are being very cautious with his return from injury (14:40), and Michael Porter Jr.’s comments to the Denver Post that his contract extension negotiations with the Nuggets are going well (28:30). Then they dive into more Ben Simmons rumors from Sam Amick of The Athletic, who reported that the Kings were not willing to give up De’Aaron Fox or Tyrese Haliburton in a trade for Simmons (46:40). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Before opening up the mailbag, Verno and KOC talk about the recent reports that Ben Simmons has informed the 76ers that he will not show up to training camp in September (0:30), as well as the news that LaMarcus Aldridge has been cleared to play in the NBA again and that Paul Millsap has signed with the Nets (17:12). Then they get into some listener questions, such as what the Kings should do with Buddy Hield (21:20), what the Rockets should do with John Wall (29:25), whether the Cavaliers’ small backcourt can work (39:45), and much more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s a tradition like no other. Verno and KOC play an NBA offseason edition of "Do You Believe…?" They definitely believe in life after love, but do they believe that there is a trade out there for Kevin Love (0:30)? They hit on that and the likelihood of Ben Simmons wearing a 76ers uniform on opening night (15:30), whether ‘Donda’ is any good (21:00), and whether the Heat are a top-four team in the East now (29:05). Then they talk about whether the Clippers are going to be good without Kawhi Leonard (31:35), Kevin’s level of excitement about Patriots rookie Mac Jones (41:00), Luka’s chances at winning MVP this season (51:00), and more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Up top, Verno and KOC chat about the stacked team the University of Memphis has put together for this upcoming season with Emoni Bates (0:30) and then react to the breaking news that Lauri Markkanen has finally been dealt in a three-team trade to the Cavaliers, sending Larry Nance Jr. to the Blazers and Derrick Jones Jr. plus draft assets to the Bulls (9:10). Then we get into listener questions, starting with a couple on the Hornets and LaMelo Ball’s ascension (13:50), the Mavericks and Kristaps Porzingis’s decline (22:05), and quite a lot more! Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first talk about some of the particulars of the NBA schedule that was released on Friday, including how the national games are spread around (0:30). Then they talk about the Josh Richardson extension in Boston and how the Celtics are collecting strong assets for a potential trade for Bradley Beal (10:55). After that they discuss the new Overtime Elite league, which is backed by the likes of Drake, Kevin Durant, and Jeff Bezos, and how targeting high school prospects with big-money contracts threatens college basketball (19:12). Finally, they get into reporting from Jon Krawczynski that the Timberwolves are still pursuing a trade for Ben Simmons that could include a third team (40:18), the Celtics retiring Kevin Garnett’s number (46:40), and Klay Thompson’s potential return to the court around Christmas (56:05). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start off the show by wrapping up their thoughts from summer league after Davion Mitchell shut the Celtics down with his lockdown defense and cemented his reputation as a fierce defender (0:45). Then they get into some of the news from around the league like Terry Rozier’s extension with the Hornets (23:00), Patrick Beverley’s potential impact on the heretofore struggling Timberwolves team (25:35), and what they expect to see from the NBA 2021-2022 schedule that’s dropping later today (41:35). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start with all the news and movement around the league. First they dig into Joel Embiid’s supermax extension with the Philadelphia 76ers (0:30) and Marcus Smart’s four-year extension with the Celtics (11:30). Then they get into the Grizzlies-Timberwolves trade, which sent Patrick Beverley to Minnesota and Jarrett Culver and Juancho Hernangomez to Memphis (21:23). Finally, Summer League is coming to a close, so Verno and KOC touch on the upcoming championship game between the Celtics and Kings (34:25), discuss the team they think should be the happiest coming out of Vegas, the Knicks (38:54), and examine Luka Garza’s two-way deal with the Pistons (47:18). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin O’Connor has landed in Las Vegas for summer league, so he and Chris dive into all of their observations, starting with how last year’s rookie class is faring and whether we underrated them because of the challenges created by COVID-19 (1:00). Then they talk about Cam Thomas’s incredible scoring bonanza and his fit on the Nets (13:20), the contributions of a few undrafted players, like Isaiah Miller and Omer Yurtseven (21:18), Kevin finally seeing Alperen Sengun play in person (28:45), and which players people in Las Vegas are buzzing about (33:00). Finally, The Ringer’s Mirin Fader joins to talk about her new book, 'Giannis: The Improbable Rise of an NBA MVP' (37:05). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Guest: Mirin Fader Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC do a big summer league catchup after the first few days of play, starting with this year’s rookie class and why rookies are more able than ever to contribute to a winning team in the NBA (1:00). They take a closer look at standout Kings rookie Davion Mitchell (34:00), Cade Cunningham’s leadership (43:00), and Alperen Sengun’s play for the Rockets (0:00). Then they talk about the sophomore players in summer league, including Desmond Bane, Obi Toppin, and Tyrese Maxey, as well as the veteran players who have popped up (44:40). Finally, a drop of news about where Dennis Schröder may end up has broken: the Celtics have offered a one-year, $5.6 million deal (1:00:45). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back and full of anticipation for the Olympic gold-medal game between France and Team USA Friday night (0:30). They are also full of joy at Andre Iguodala’s return to the Warriors for what he says could be his final years in the NBA, but they’re concerned that the Warriors haven’t done enough to maximize the end of Steph Curry’s prime (7:50). Then they are full of tidbits as they move through several of the other rumors and transactions from around the league (24:57), including where Lauri Markkanen could end up (27:40), Kemba Walker to the Knicks (28:36), the Wizards’ new and improved roster (34:12), Mike D’Antoni becoming a consultant in New Orleans (38:40), and much more. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KOC and Verno rejoin after the draft and the first night of free agency to discuss the big trades and deals that went down. They start in Miami, where Jimmy Butler and Kyle Lowry got excellent deals (01:19), then move on to Chicago, which L.A. favorite Alex Caruso and Lonzo Ball will now call home (06:29). They also talk about their favorite surprise contracts out of the first night (19:50) as well as their reactions to the NBA draft (31:18). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As the NBA draft nears, Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor talk about all of the big moves the top teams are looking to make, including Memphis making a big trade to move to the top 10 in picks (01:46). Also Chris talks about some inside info he's gathered on some of the top players to watch for and what some teams and execs think about them (30:58). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

First, Verno and KOC dive into all the action surrounding the upcoming draft, with Cleveland fielding trade offers for their pick and Collin Sexton, the Raptors trying to move up from the fourth pick, and so much more (0:30). Then they talk about whether we could see an undue amount of action on the restricted free agent market this offseason (42:35) and the precarious situation in New Orleans with their new head coach Willie Green (50:30). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start by breaking down Giannis' historic Game 6 (0:51) and everything else that helped push the Bucks past the Suns in the Finals (9:40). They also discuss what went wrong for the Suns (40:00) and which teams are built to slow down Giannis (46:30). Finally, they prepare for the offseason by talking a little bit of Damian Lillard (57:30), Ben Simmons (1:01:50), and the NBA Draft (1:07:30). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KOC and Verno start by discussing the adjustments the Bucks have made to tie the series (1:25). Then they discuss why they think Giannis doesn't appear to get the same hype from his peers that other players get (23:30). Then they talk about Kawhi Leonard's future with Clippers after his knee injury and rumored unhappy experience with the Clippers medical staff (42:18). They wrap up by talking about a couple of potential late first-round prospects in Ayo Dosunmu and Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (49:10). Check out The Ringer's NBA Draft Guide. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Production Assistant: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Kevin kick off the episode talking about Kawhi Leonard’s recently reported ACL repair surgery and what that means for him and for the Clippers’ next season (0:40). They talk a little bit about what they’ve taken away from the first three games of the NBA Finals and what they expect from Game 4 (20:28). Then they hit on Team USA’s losses in the exhibition games prior to the Olympics (37:23), the 76ers opening up trade talks for Ben Simmons (49:02), and some of Kevin’s draft thoughts from the past couple of weeks (55:30). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Kevin get together right after Game 2 of the NBA Finals to talk about the Suns going up 2-0 over the Bucks (0:40). Then they talk about Adam Silver saying that the play-in tournament will stick around next year (40:58), his comments on player injuries this season (45:20), the front-runner for the Orlando Magic head coaching job, Jamahl Mosley (51:54), and Chris’s new favorite player in the draft, Moses Moody (55:22). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Immediately following Game 1 of the NBA Finals, Verno and KOC discuss Chris Paul taking over and pushing the Suns to a Game 1 win over the Bucks (2:18), how well Giannis played despite his injury (14:10), and how will the Bucks adjust for the rest of the series (24:15)? Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Late Thursday night, Verno and KOC talk about the Bucks winning Game 5 without Giannis (1:30), the Suns making it to the NBA Finals and what it means for Chris Paul (19:56), and the state of the Clippers (49:30). Plus, what's next for Kawhi Leonard and Paul George (54:42)? Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC react to the Hawks' Game 4 win and Giannis' injury (0:43), the Clippers impressive Game 5 win over the Suns (13:45), and the controversy surrounding Portland's hiring of Chauncey Billups (40:30). Then they discuss some of the standouts from the NBA Draft Combine (1:00:35). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Late Thursday night, Verno and KOC get into the Clippers Game 3 win over the Suns and how big of a role injuries played (1:04), then give Trae Young the credit he deserves for his Game 1 performance (25:53), and finally they discuss the new coaching hires in the NBA (51:59). Hosts Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Immediately following the Suns Game 2 win over the Clippers, Verno and KOC discuss the crazy final 2 minutes, plus Deandre Ayton and Cam Payne's big night (1:10). Then they talk about what's next for Ben Simmons and the Sixers (23:06) before previewing the Eastern Conference Finals (37:55). Finally, they recap the results of the Draft Lottery and discuss possible draft scenarios (48:13). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Game 6 of the Bucks and Nets series and look forward to Game 7 (1:07), the Sixers blowing a 26 point lead to the Hawks (11:12) and Paul George stepping up for the Clippers (37:32). Then they get into the latest NBA news with Chris Paul potentially missing games (53:07), Rick Carlisle’s resignation (54:57), the Pelicans firing Stan Van Gundy (1:07:27) and the Wizards parting ways with Scott Brooks (1:16:47). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC get together late Tuesday night to discuss the Nets win over the Bucks in which Kevin Durant played all 48 minutes and scored 49 points (1:08). Then they get into the adjustments Trae Young needs to make moving forward in the Hawks and Sixers series (26:35), the success of Chris Paul and the Suns (39:40), and the Jazz and Clippers' tied series (56:45). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Late Thursday night, Verno & KOC talk about the Jazz taking care of business at home to go up 2-0 against the Clippers (0:42) and the Bucks winning a strange game against the Nets (21:27) Also, can the Hawks figure out a way to stop Joel Embiid (32:58) and how many games can the Nuggets take off of the Suns (49:45)? Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Immediately following the Jazz’s Game 1 victory over the Clippers, Verno and KOC discuss Donovan Mitchell’s 45-point performance and whether the Jazz can win the series without Mike Conley (1:49). The guys then recap Joel Embiid and the Sixers' bounce-back win vs. the Hawks (20:07) before discussing how the Bucks can put up a better fight vs. KD and the Nets (37:35). Plus, are the Suns simply too deep for the Nuggets (1:00:59) and did the voters get the MVP and COTY awards right (1:11:53)? Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Late Thursday night, Verno and KOC talk about the Suns beating the hobbled Lakers in the first round of the playoffs (0:30) and the Nuggets powering through Damian Lillard’s incredible performances to win their first-round series (22:47). Then they look forward to the second-round matchups of Nuggets-Suns (34:45), Jazz versus either the Mavericks or Clippers (41:25), Hawks-76ers (49:17), and Bucks-Nets (57:14). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first get into Damian Lillard’s unbelievable 55-point, 10-assist performance in a double-overtime loss to the Nuggets in a thrilling Game 5 (0:30). Then they talk about every Laker who isn’t LeBron’s utter collapse against the Suns to drop Game 5 of their series (19:32), and the very intriguing upcoming Nets-Bucks second-round series now that the Nets have ousted the Celtics (40:29). Finally, they look forward to Wednesday night’s games in light of Embiid’s injury, Trae Young’s dominance, Ja Morant’s incredible performances against the Jazz, and the Clippers’ comeback (52:26). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC get together after Thursday night’s slate of playoff games to discuss the Bucks’ beatdown of the Heat to go up 3-0 (0:30), the Lakers’ defeat of the overheated Suns to go up 2-1 (19:15), and the Nuggets’ victory over the Trail Blazers to go up 2-1 (37:36). Then they get into the Clippers’ wretched performance this postseason (45:30), Ja Morant's incredible 47-point game Wednesday night (1:03:35), and the Knicks-Hawks series (1:16:05). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

First things first, Chris shares a couple of voicemails he received from some very special people before he and KOC get into all the matchups in Round 1 of the NBA playoffs (0:24). They start out with the Grizzlies’ unexpected win over the Jazz in Utah and the subsequent public rift between Donovan Mitchell and the Jazz (5:42). Then they move on to Monday night’s matchups, with the Bucks picking apart the Heat in Game 2 to go up 2-0 (14:36) and the Nuggets blowing out the Blazers to tie up the series (21:20). And finally, they talk about the Lakers losing their first game on the road to the Suns (35:34), the Clippers dropping their first game at home to the Mavericks (47:20), the Wizards putting up at least one decent half of basketball against the 76ers (57:51), and the pure fun of Trae Young’s newfound villainy in the Knicks-Hawks series (59:34). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back this Friday to talk about the Pacers' embarrassing loss to the Wizards in the second round of the Eastern Conference play-in (0:24) and the matchup between the Wizards and 76ers in the first round of the playoffs (10:30). After that, they preview the very last play-in game, Grizzlies-Warriors, and discuss which team could challenge the Utah Jazz the most (16:34). Finally, they take a look at all the determined first-round matchups, starting with Celtics-Nets (28:57), Heat-Bucks (33:15), Hawks-Knicks (42:30), Utah Jazz versus the Grizzlies or Warriors (48:52), Lakers-Suns (1:02:15), Blazers-Nuggets (1:10:25), and Mavericks-Clippers (1:15:50). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back this Tuesday morning previewing all the play-in matchups coming at you over the next couple of days (0:30). First up, in the first round of the Eastern Conference play-in, they talk about the Hornets-Pacers game (3:39), which will decide who plays the loser of the Wizards-Celtics game (10:00). Then they get into the first round of the Western Conference play-in with the ultimate experience-versus-inexperience matchup, Spurs-Grizzlies (24:45), which will decide who plays the loser of the most anticipated game in a long time, Warriors-Lakers (32:13). And, of course, they give their thoughts on LeBron and Steph’s legacies (47:20), and KOC shares his All-NBA rosters (1:03:08). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back talking about all the crazy matchups and movements in playoff seeding and the uncertainty going into the last three days of regular-season basketball, including the implications on the Western Conference play-in of the Suns' win over the Trail Blazers on Thursday night (0:31), and the tough first-round matchups that could cause upsets in the Western Conference, with the Warriors, Lakers, and Trail Blazers at the bottom of playoff contention (18:45). Then they get into the Eastern side of things with Boston clinching the seventh seed for a home game in the play-in tournament (26:56), and how Miami could upset the balance in the East as it peaks at just the right moment (33:29). Finally, they talk about Steve Kerr voicing support for the play-in tournament (44:25), the mess that is the Sacramento Kings (48:18), Matisse Thybulle playing himself into being the third-most-important player on the 76ers (56:48), and their memories of those who will be inducted into the NBA Hall of Fame this weekend (1:01:42). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KOC and Verno start by discussing which lower-seeded teams from each conference could pull an upset in the playoffs (2:35). Then they talk about Jaylen Brown’s season-ending wrist injury and recap the issues the Celtics have had all season (19:38). After that, they discuss Russell Westbrook breaking Oscar Robertson’s record for most triple-doubles in a career (28:11). Later on, they also discuss KOC’s NBA awards ballot (45:42). Lastly, they talk about whether the G League helped or hurt NBA lottery prospect Jalen Green’s draft stock (1:12:14). Check out KOC's full NBA awards ballot. Hosts: Kevin O’Connor and Chris Vernon Production Assistant: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the teams that are missing a vital player— the Mavericks and Kristaps Porzingis, the Nets and James Harden, and the Lakers and Anthony Davis (2:52)—then touch on their potential strategies heading into the playoffs. Later, they preview the play-in standings and discuss the East's top competitors, the 76ers and Bucks (16:45), before weighing in on the teams that are up for a challenging schedule during the tournament (27:07). Plus, updates on coaches in the hot seat and the argument for Nikola Jokic as MVP (49:05). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor Associate Producer: Erika Cervantes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This Tuesday, Verno and KOC discuss how, whatever players in danger of falling into it may say, the looming threat of the play-in tournament has indeed worked to increase competition between cusp teams and top teams for seeding down the stretch (0:32). Then they get into everyone’s favorite feel-good story of the season, the New York Knicks, who beat down the Grizzlies on Monday with monster performances from who else but recently dubbed top 25 player in the NBA Julius Randle, plus Derrick Rose (7:48). The stories of this week are truly those of redemption as Marc Gasol proves his worth for the Lakers against the Nuggets (19:22), Russell Westbrook secures a triple-double average on the season (38:03), and Carmelo Anthony breaks into the list of top 10 scorers of all time (48:27). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back this Friday covering the ascent of Kevin Porter Jr., who became the fourth youngest in history to score 50 points in an NBA game on Thursday night (6:51), and Michael Porter Jr., who has proved himself in the absence of Jamal Murray (16:27). Then they touch briefly on Giannis exiting the Bucks-Rockets game after rolling his ankle (27:20) and the Warriors' baffling loss to the Timberwolves (30:04), before getting into the incredible success of the Phoenix Suns clinching a playoff spot after an 11-year drought and how the first round of the playoffs could shake out in the West (35:50). Finally, they touch on the Trail Blazers’ supposed heart-to-heart that was meant to propel them into the postseason (45:55) and the relationship between Jimmy Butler and Erik Spoelstra (50:07). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC get into the odd phenomenon of the Minnesota Timberwolves sweeping the Utah Jazz this season and where the Timberwolves can go with their roster (0:30). Then they talk about Kevin Love phoning it in for $31 million (15:27), the Phoenix Suns snapping the Knicks’ winning streak (23:13), and Western Conference playoff seeding (29:33). Finally, they talk about the Trail Blazers’ disappointing season, historically bad defense, and what, if anything, the team can do in the future to remake its roster (36:10). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back this Friday, talking about Anthony Davis returning to the basketball court against the Dallas Mavericks (0:25) and what the most important factors are to the Mavericks’ success in this final stretch of the season (2:30). Then they get into the 76ers losing to the Bucks Thursday night after a relatively quiet game from Joel Embiid with Ben Simmons out and how important getting that no. 1 seed in the East will be for postseason success with three juggernaut teams at the top (13:48). Finally, they talk about the three unexpected teams in the Eastern Conference that are currently surging: the Celtics (26:06), the Knicks (29:54), and the Wizards (43:10). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC first get into the Steph Curry run that just keeps going (0:27) and Nikola Jokic doing things that no center has done before (19:47). Then they talk about whether the Suns are a major threat to be in the NBA Finals (27:00), who could beat the Clippers and their newfound chemistry in the West (36:35), and whether the Pelicans made a mistake in hiring head coach Stan Van Gundy (46:11). Finally, some good news: LaMelo Ball is set to return to the Hornets lineup this season after what looked like a season-ending wrist injury (59:05). Reminder: Don’t ever mention Campazzo’s name to Chris! Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start off this Friday talking about the Bucks continuing their run in the second half of the season and how Jrue Holiday could be the piece that allows them to compete with the two other top teams in the East (0:30). Then they discuss a league report that says the injury rate is actually down 6 percent this season, contrary to popular belief, but doesn’t address how who is getting injured has affected the quality of the product (8:17). After that they get into news from around league over the past couple of days, including Steph Curry going on an unbelievable eight-game tear (19:34), the Celtics continuing their hot streak by whooping the Lakers (22:30), and Deandre Ayton’s big game against the Kings (31:15). Then they lament the failed win-now moves made by the Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings that have ultimately amounted to a bunch of losses and, potentially, uncertainty in their star players' minds that those organizations will ever be stable enough to win (37:33). Finally, they touch on Luka Doncic’s magical game-winning shot against the Grizzlies (53:00) and LaMarcus Aldridge’s retirement (58:20). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This Tuesday it’s KOC’s flu pod as he and Verno get into the sad news that Jamal Murray tore his ACL on Monday night during a game against the Warriors (3:10), in which Steph Curry racked up an astounding 53 points (9:38). And they talk about what James Wiseman’s injury means for the Warriors’ season and why young big men can’t stay on the floor (13:53). Then they talk about Mark Cuban’s complaints about the play-in tournament after the Mavericks lost to the 76ers and how the Western Conference seeding could shake out with the Nuggets depleted (23:07). Finally they touch on what pieces the Bulls need to succeed (36:29), whether it’d be better for the Knicks to go as far as they possibly can this season or tank for a draft pick (42:54), and whether the Celtics can make a run down the stretch (52:34). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start this Friday off talking about who’s left in the MVP pool and why Jokic’s case is the strongest (0:30). Then they get into Thursday’s contentious Clippers-Suns game and the swirling uncertainty over how seeding could shake out in the Western Conference (10:32), Victor Oladipo’s knee injury (24:39), and the impending overhaul of the Kings (27:17). Finally, as the buyout period ends, they mention any names that could still get bought out, look back at the transactions that were made (35:34), and examine the current Eastern Conference standings (44:30). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As the stretch run approaches, Verno and KOC talk about the teams that are surging toward the postseason and those that are falling behind. The Utah Jazz haven’t let up with their 3-heavy playing style (0:24) and the Brooklyn Nets have plenty of options for different matchups in the postseason (17:32). Then they talk about how Aaron Gordon looks like the glue between Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokic (28:00), Ben Simmons falling short in recent weeks (39:27), this year’s Warriors hurtling toward basketball hell (51:21), and more! Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC get into all the league business this Friday, starting with LaMarcus Aldridge heading straight to the starting five for the Brooklyn Nets (0:30) and Miami’s continued high level of play (11:28). Then they get into Aaron Gordon’s fantastic debut games for the Nuggets (33:35) and their win over a full-strength Clippers team that has made some serious culture changes over the past year (38:26). Finally, they talk about what has gone so desperately wrong with the Boston Celtics (49:08), what Patrick Williams could do for the Bulls’ future (1:06:03), and the NCAA Final Four (1:12:20). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start off by talking about the biggest signings from the buyout market, with LaMarcus Aldridge going to the Nets and Andre Drummond going to the Lakers (0:30). Then they get into Zion Williamson’s monster game against the Mavericks (26:52), Tyrese Haliburton making a run at Rookie of the Year with LaMelo hurt (38:57), the top three contenders in the East (46:23), and the latest on the men’s NCAA tournament (58:26). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This Friday, Verno and KOC get into the most active trade deadline in NBA history, starting with the unexpected trade of Nikola Vucevic from the Magic to the Bulls (3:00). Then they get into the addition of Aaron Gordon to the Nuggets (18:00), the Lakers, Heat, and 76ers passing on Kyle Lowry (27:55), Miami’s strategically significant trade for Victor Oladipo (35:25), Portland’s sneaky addition of Norman Powell (46:45), the somewhat baffling Rajon Rondo for Lou Williams trade (57:50), and more! Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back with all the potential trades you need to know about before the trade deadline this Thursday. First up: The Lakers have made Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Montrezl Harrell available in trade conversations and are still interested in Andre Drummond (4:00). The Bucks look like they’re back to their elite level after their invigorating trade for PJ Tucker (9:24). Next, they talk about where Aaron Gordon could end up at the deadline (14:07) and whether Kyle Lowry will get traded to the 76ers, the Heat, or at all (31:10). Then they talk about whether the Pelicans should trade Lonzo Ball when he’s the only player trying on the defensive end of the floor (42:00). Finally, they talk about the controversy and drama surrounding Steve Kerr’s recent comments on 'Real Ones' on 'The Ringer NBA Show' with Logan Murdock and Raja Bell (50:14). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC dive into the recent success of the Hawks and Timberwolves, who both replaced their head coaches midseason, and how a coach can unlock players’ talents and effort (6:52). Then they wonder whether the Pelicans will ever figure it out with Steven Adams and Eric Bledsoe, who simply aren’t setting the example needed from veterans (24:23), and whether Sacramento will let go of any of its players at the trade deadline (45:56). And at last they take a look at the first iteration of KOC’s 2021 NBA Draft Guide as the first round of March Madness commences (51:54). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go all the way around the league this Tuesday starting in sunny Miami where Jimmy Butler could be playing himself into the MVP conversation (0:30), and moving on to the team that’s taking the league by swarm, the Charlotte Hornets (6:00), and Atlanta’s comeback in the thus-far-successful Nate McMillan era (10:50). Then they quick-hit the Knicks (19:34), Lakers (32:00), and Blazers (39:42) before diving deep into the success of the Chris Paul–led Phoenix Suns (43:37). Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices