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David French is in studio with Skye Jethani and Phil Vischer for a special edition of French Friday. First, they discuss new survey results showing most evangelicals hold shockingly heretical beliefs about the nature of Jesus, but they are absolutely clear about sexual ethics. What does it mean for evangelicalism to make doctrine optional and sexual purity essential? Then, comments from leading conservative voices appear to contradict core conservative values. Can conservatism still be defined, or has it deteriorated into a reactionary movement to "own the libs" and nothing more? Plus, David and Skye nerd-out about the new Amazon series, "The Rings of Power." 0:00 - Intro 1:55 - Is evangelicalism about Jesus or sexual ethics? 26:24 - Can conservatism be defined? 57:57 - Nerd corner Links and resources mentioned: The Dispatch - https://thedispatch.com "Evangelicals Decenter Jesus" by David French (The Atlantic Newsletter) - https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/the-third-rail/632df352c5c055002255fa9f/us-evangelical-christian-republican/ "The American right's future involves waging a 'religious battle' against the left, leaders say at a conservative conference" (NBC) - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/american-rights-future-involves-waging-religious-battle-left-leaders-s-rcna48961 Fuller Youth Institute - https://fulleryouthinstitute.org/stickyfaith "The Evangelical Question in the History of American Religion" by Kirsten Sanders (The Hedgehog Review) - https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/the-evangelical-question-in-the-history-of-american-religion Holy Post episode 526 (includes discussion of above article) - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-526-was-the-constitution-divinely-inspired-with-kaitlyn-schiess National Conservatism: A Statement of Principles - https://nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/ "How Do Christians Fit Into the Two-Party System? They Don't" by Tim Keller, 2018 (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/29/opinion/sunday/christians-politics-belief.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

"}}},"VERSION":"8.72.53"}"> The death of Queen Elizabeth has many wondering about the future of Christianity in the UK. The Queen was outspoken about her faith in Jesus Christ, but how will King Charles change what it means for the monarch to be the "Defender of the Faith"? We all know evangelicals are divided by politics, but a new report by Catholic bishops says Roman Catholics are too. What can we learn from one another? Poverty among kids in the U.S. has declined dramatically in recent decades. Liberals say it's the result of government programs. Conservative credit economic growth. Who is right? Then, Anglican pastor Aaron Damiani talks with Skye about his journey from megachurch burnout to life-giving liturgy. His new book, "Earth Filled with Heaven," is written to Christians skeptical about tradition, rituals, and sacraments, but they might be the key to saving evangelicalism from itself. Plus, why you shouldn't drink coffee before shopping or trust ads featuring dogs. Bonus Patreon Interview with Aaron Damiani - Https://www.patreon.com/posts/72516965/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 03:06 - Dog and cat marketing 9:42 - Drinking coffee before shopping 11:13- The Queen's faith and Christianity in the UK 21:46 - Catholic church split by politics 30:36 - Child poverty has declined Interview with Aaron Damiani "Earth Filled with Heaven: Finding Life in Liturgy, Sacraments, and other Ancient Practices of the Church" - https://amzn.to/3Szeaqy Aaron Damiani - https://twitter.com/aarondamiani 43:55 - Background 47:47 - Megachurch burnout 52:14 - Liturgy and sacrament overview 59:38 - Misperceptions about liturgy 1:08:21 - Mitigating celebrity dynamics in the church 1:11:48 - Is this just another novelty? 1:15:08 - Credits Articles from news segment:"Dog owners take more risks, cat owners are more cautious, research finds" by Lei Jia (Salon) - https://www.salon.com/2022/09/04/dog-owners-take-more-risks-cat-owners-are-more-cautious-research-finds_partner/ "Drinking coffee before shopping could make you spend more" by Adam Barnes (The Hill) - https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/3567346-drinking-coffee-before-shopping-could-make-you-spend-more/ "US Catholic bishops' report to the Vatican shows a church split by politics" by Claire Giangravé (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/09/23/u-s-catholic-bishops-report-to-the-vatican-shows-a-church-split-by-politics/ "Expanded Safety Net Drives Sharp Drop in Child Poverty" by Jason DeParle (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/11/us/politics/child-poverty-analysis-safety-net.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

A court has ruled that a Christian-owned business is not required to pay for health insurance that includes drugs to prevent HIV. Is the ruling a victory for religious liberty, or a case of Christians unfairly imposing their beliefs on others? In an effort to "bring God back into public schools" Taxes now requires schools to display "In God We Trust" signs. But what happens when the sign is in Arabic? Southern governors are shipping undocumented immigrants North. But is their goal to actually solve the immigration crisis, or are they using vulnerable people for a partisan stunt? Then, pastor and culture-watcher Mark Sayers is back to talk about his new book, "A Non-Anxious Presence." He says we've entered a new cultural era riddled with anxiety and uncertainty that Christian leaders relying on the previous era's models are not equipped to handle. Drawing from Friedman's family-systems theory, Sayers argues we must learn to patiently resist the unhealthy people in our communities, endure sabotage, and fundamentally rethink our definitions of success. Plus, annual awards for hilarious scientific achievements. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...Do we actually know what happens the moment we die? https://www.patreon.com/posts/72258893/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:52 - Bizarre scientific awards 11:04 - Religious freedom and health insurance coverage 23:13 - Public Christian symbols 38:39 - Southern governors sending migrants north Sponsor 58:23 - Sponsor: Abide Get 25% off a premium Abide subscription by texting "holypost" to 22433 Interview with Mark Sayers "A Non-Anxious Presence: How a Changing and Complex World Will Create a Remnant of Renewed Christian Leaders" - https://amzn.to/3f3wRnO Mark Sayers - https://www.marksayers.co 1:00:18 - Mark Sayers intro 1:02:49 - Anxiety in a gray zone 1:06:26 - Friedman's systems theory and culture 1:08:35 - How leaders can bring health 1:15:39 - Comfort and escapism 1:22:22 - Leading with God's presence 1:27:42 - Credits Articles referenced in news segment: Ig Nobel prize winners - https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/constipation-s-effect-on-scorpion-sex-garners-biology-ig-nobel-70504 "A Texas Judge Just Took Religious 'Freedom' Too Far" (Bloomberg) - https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-09-14/texas-prep-drug-ruling-in-braidwood-case-should-be-overturned? "Southern governor sending migrants north face a crisis of faith" by Jonathan Merritt (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/09/16/southern-governors-sending-migrants-north-face-a-crisis-of-faith/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

The water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, was foreseeable and preventable. Did white evangelicalism's anti-government attitude contribute to the catastrophe? Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson has yet another take on the evangelical infatuation with Trump. Do we need any more? And a recent article by theologian Kirsten Sanders says we've entered a new era of evangelicalism where online influencers are shaping the movement more than pastors or institutions. Then, Skye and Kaitlyn discuss the belief held by some American Christians that the Constitution was inspired by God. Where did this view come from? Why is it dangerous? And why is it finding new popularity today? Plus, Phil plops a headline. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:54 - News of the Butt headline 6:10 - Jackson water crisis 17:52 - Another article on evangelicalism and Trump? Sponsor 54:22 - Sponsor: Abide Get 25% off a premium Abide subscription by texting "holypost" to 22433 Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess 55:40 - Getting Schooled intro 57:57 - Divine inspiration of the Constitution - overview 1:15:24 - Dangers of holding this view 1:22:54 - Resources Resources from Getting Schooled: "We the Fallen People" by Robert Tracy McKenzie - https://amzn.to/3qzgkuf "The Bible in Politics" by Richard Bauckham - https://amzn.to/3U1zQgF "Every Leaf, Line, and Letter" edited by Timothy Larsen - https://amzn.to/3U9M7ja Articles mentioned: "Jackson water crisis deepens as state deploys National Guard" - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/01/jackson-mississippi-water-crisis/ "Trump should fill Christians with rage. How come he doesn't?" by Michael Gerson (The Washington Post) - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/01/michael-gerson-evangelical-christian-maga-democracy/ "The Evangelical Question in the History of American Religion" by Kirsten Sanders (The Hedgehog Review) - https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/the-evangelical-question-in-the-history-of-american-religion Join us on Patreon for more episodes of Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess and other great bonus content! Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

The Bible is one of God's most important gifts to his people. Through it we discover who he is and become equipped to follow him in the world. But rather than a source of unity, for many Christians the Bible is a point of conflict and division—especially when we fail to recognize the difference between the Bible and our cultural interpretation of the Bible. My guest today, Lanre Williams-Ayedun, says one of best ways to overcome this danger is by engaging our sisters and brothers from other parts of the global church. When we listen to how they read the Scriptures, it can both illuminate things we've never seen before and make us more humble about our own grasp of God's word "Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church" by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc Interview with Lanre Williams-Ayedun 0:00 - Intro 2:32 - Engaging Scripture globally 11:47 - Learning from the global church 18:50 - Celebrity pastors outside U.S. 22:31 - Engaging outside your context 26:58 - Scripture and cultural lenses 30:57 - Scripture and justice Sponsor 35:09 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Debrief with Matthew Soerens 37:06 - Diverse voices speaking into Scripture 45:17 - Healthy skepticism of cultural lenses 48:33 - Other resources 53:21 - Credits Resources mentioned: "Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity" by Robert Chao Romero - https://amzn.to/3x4D0WR "Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope" by Esau McCaulley - https://amzn.to/3QsZVSC Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Historically, evangelicals have been the group of Americans most resistant to taking action against climate change. The National Association of Evangelicals hopes to change that. Phil, Christian and Skye discuss the NAE's new report and their attempt to ground environmental care in the biblical call to love your neighbor. Will it work? Then, the Most Interesting Evangelical in the World, Bob Roberts Jr., is back to talk about extremism. For over 20 years he has been a trailblazer in the peacemaking and international religious freedom arenas, and has studied how extremism takes root. That's why Roberts says what's happening in America right now is terrifying, and warns the church that remaining silent about conspiracy theories, political hate speech, and Christian Nationalism is not an option. Plus, a pumpkin regatta and tomatoes hit the road. News Segment 00:00 - Intro 5:00 - Phil's mistakes 10:41 - Tomatoes hit the road 17:37 - Evangelicals and climate change Sponsor 45:13 - Sponsor: Abide Get 25% off a premium Abide subscription by texting "holypost" to 22433 Interview with Bob Roberts Jr. Bob Roberts Jr. - https://bobrobertsjr.com/ Bold Love Podcast - boldlovepodcast.com GlocalNet - glocal.net 46:37 - Bob Roberts Jr. interview intro 48:51 - Extremism in America 56:01 - Defining Christian nationalism 1:00:21 - The church's call 1:22:10 - Hope in this moment 1:26:31 - Credits Other resources and links mentioned: "Evangelical group releases climate change report, urges a biblical mandate for action" (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/08/29/evangelical-group-releases-climate-change-report-urges-a-biblical-mandate-for-action/ "Dobson, Others Seek Ouster of NAE Vice President" (Christianity Today, March 2007) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/marchweb-only/109-53.0.html Megan Basham tweet - https://twitter.com/megbasham/status/1564749306866851843?cxt=HHwWhoCz5YjNjbcrAAAA Holy Post Episode 456: Why We're Divided & Positive Pluralism with Bob Roberts - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-456-why-we-re-divided-positive-pluralism-with-bob-roberts Holy Post Episode 172: Dude Ranches in Texas with Guest Bob Roberts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxa8pE83WD4&t=2s Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

Immediately after President Biden announced his college loan forgiveness plan Christians started debating it. Some are arguing that debt forgiveness is deeply biblical, while others say it's completely immoral. Who's right? Or, are both sides missing the point? Then, Phil is still processing the last French Friday episode about why so many politically active evangelicals see policy goals as absolute and Christian virtues as flexible. He offers his theories. Skye then talks to pastor Rich Villodas about his conversion, his early spiritual formation, and how he's avoided the pitfalls of pastoral ministry. His new book is "Good and Beautiful and Kind: Becoming Whole in a Fractured World." Plus: Row, row, row…your pumpkin? News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:48 - Pumpkin boat recording 13:36 - French Friday follow-up 29:27 - Debt forgiveness Interview with Rich Villodas "Good and Beautiful and Kind: Becoming Whole in a Fractured World" - https://amzn.to/3AWPT7Y 48:11 - Rich Villodas interview intro 49:54 - Rich's background and early spiritual formation 1:03:59 - Mentors 1:11:11 - The church today 1:13:38 - Self-differentiation 1:18:27 - Coaching pastors and leaders 1:23:42 - Advice for church leaders 1:27:43 - Credits "'Gourdspeed.' 60-year-old paddles 38 miles in huge pumpkin to set record, photos show" - https://amp.heraldonline.com/news/nation-world/national/article265015734.html French Friday: De-Radicalizing the Church & Learning from Atheists - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-de-radicalizing-the-church-learning-from-atheists "Christian Political Ethics are Upside-Down" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside Tony Perkins interview that Phil references - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/23/tony-perkins-evangelicals-donald-trump-stormy-daniels-216498/ "Republicans Opposing Student-Loan Relief Are Forgetting the Biblical Tradition of Debt Forgiveness" by William J. Barber II and Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove (Time) - https://time.com/6208577/student-loan-forgiveness-republicans-christianity-bible/ "Is There a Christian Case for Biden's Debt Relief Plan?" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://time.com/6208577/student-loan-forgiveness-republicans-christianity-bible/ "Best of: Cancel America's Student Loan Debt! But How?" podcast episode (The Argument, NYT) - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-of-cancel-americas-student-loan-debt-but-how/id1438024613?i=1000577188963 Rich Villodas: richvillodas.com https://youtube.com/c/NewLifeFellowshipChurchNewYorkCity Newlife.nyc Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

In a recent article, Russell Moore lamented the captivity of evangelicals to conspiracy theories and political radicalization, but he argued "the problem is not in the pulpit" and "the problem isn't primarily in the pews either." Instead, he believes the radicalization is happening outside the church. David French and Skye Jethani agree that radicalization is happing outside the church, but say there is also a real problem in the pews. What role do churches and pastors have in de-radicalizing evangelicals, and what's preventing them from speaking up and doing more? Then, French shares about a pro-life atheist who positively influenced his own values. That leads to a wider discussion about the importance of forming relationships with and engaging the ideas of those we disagree with. Rather than seeking the safety of never being challenged, welcoming the discomfort of divergent voices will provoke us toward growth and maturity. 0:00 - Intro 00:50 - De-radicalizing the church 38:11 - Learning from atheists 1:05:14 - Credits "Christian Political Ethics are Upside-Down" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside "When the South Loosens Its Bible Belt" by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/august-web-only/russell-moore-white-evangelicals-bible-belt-south-church.html "There Is a Secular Case for Life" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/there-is-a-secular-case-for-life "The Gift of Pain" by Paul Brand and Philip Yancey - https://amzn.to/3ArfV1w "What in the World?" Holy Post miniseries - https://www.holypost.com/articles/categories/what-in-the-world Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost David French - https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Two things are simultaneously true about America: More Americans than ever before are abandoning religion, and America remains the most devoutly Christian industrialized country in the world. Today's episode navigates this tension. First, a recent article by Helen Lewis says non-believers still have religious impulses that are now being expressed through political activism. Is Christian faith being replaced by Wokism on the left and Nationalism on the right? Then, David French asks why our politics are so toxic and hateful if both parties are still dependent on devoutly Christian voters. What will it take for believers on both sides to put Christian virtue ahead of just winning elections? And Kaitlyn Schiess talks to Lore Ferguson Wilbert about her new book, "A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us." She says too many Christian communities discourage curiosity while the Bible is "a permission slip to ask questions." Plus, scientists are growing animals in artificial wombs without eggs or sperm. What could possibly go wrong? Patreon Bonus - Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: The Harrowing of Hell 101 - patreon.com/posts/70936439/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:07 - What could possibly go wrong? 15:20 - Is social justice a new religion? 30:46 - Christian political ethics Interview with Lore Ferguson Wilbert "A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us" - https://amzn.to/3cngHVc 48:37 - Lore Ferguson Wilbert intro 50:02 - Why we struggle with questions 57:27 - Joy in questions 1:03:54 - Questions in Scripture 1:13:47 - Facing life's questions 1:20:09 - Jesus' humanity 1:25:50 - Credits Other articles and resources mentioned: "Synthetic embryos grown from stem cells don't need sperm or eggs" - https://newatlas.com/biology/synthetic-embryos-stem-cells "How Social Justice Became a New Religion" by Helen Lewis (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/social-justice-new-religion/671172/ "Christian Political Ethics Are Upside Down" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside Holy Post episode 522 (last week's episode) - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-522-the-new-secular-south-celebrities-for-jesus-with-katelyn-beaty "Overland to the Islands" poem by Denise Levertov - https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2011/03/saturday-poem-1-73.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Evangelicals are no longer the largest religious group in the South. Russell Moore says they've been replaced by a dangerous new kind of southern secularism. These MAGA-vangelicals don't attend church, don't follow the moral teachings of the Bible, and are fixated on politics and conspiracy theories but still call themselves "Christians." What role does the church have in mitigating the danger of this new sect? Plus, a church in Texas faces legal trouble for performing an evangelistic revision of the musical Hamilton without a license. Then, Katelyn Beaty is back to discuss her new book Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits are Hurting the Church. She explains why we keep manufacturing more Christian celebrities despite their high failure rate, and why accountability structures aren't enough. Also this week, Phil eulogizes Freya the walrus, and a man sues after five years of flatulence. Patreon Bonus with Katelyn Beaty: The ugly side of Christian publishing - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70617486/ News Segment 2:45 - Freya the walrus update 9:42 - News of the Butt 15:25 - Church production of Hamilton 25:55 - The new secular south 42:48 - With God Daily https://withgoddaily.com/ Interview with Katelyn Beaty "Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits are Hurting the Church" - https://amzn.to/3wb3aqJ 44:10 - Interview intro 46:15 - Why this book? 50:45 - Fame vs. celebrity 58:13 - When accountability doesn't work 1:04:27 - Celebrity and an illusion of intimacy 1:13:29 - Christian celebrity and discipleship 1:19:41 - Credits Other articles and resources mentioned: "When the South Loosens its Bible Belt" by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/august-web-only/russell-moore-white-evangelicals-bible-belt-south-church.html "Fighting Flesh and Blood" by Kristin Du Mez - https://kristindumez.substack.com/p/fighting-flesh-and-blood?sd=pf "A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing" by Laura McKnight Barringer and Scot McKnight - https://amzn.to/3A4jRF9 News of the Butt - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11041055/Father-stopped-farting-ate-ham-roll-market-five-years-ago-sues-200k.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

What does it mean to see others as image-bearers of God? How is this warped by American individualism? And what happens to justice when we abandon God for idols—false images of God? Based on the book Inalienable by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens, in this episode Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) talks to Sri Lankan Christian leader Vinoth Ramachandra about the intersection of idolatry and mission. He explains how what we worship shapes us and our work in the world in unexpected ways, and that he believes the American church needs to admit to and repent of its idols. "Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church" by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc 0:00 - Theme song and intro Interview with Vinoth Ramachandra 2:19 - Idolatry 5:35 - Idol of individualism 12:42 - Idolatry and injustice 18:25 - Idolatry's appeal and antidote 24:45 - Confronting idolatry faithfully 29:49 - Sponsor - World Relief Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Debrief with Eric Costanzo and Daniel Yang 31:45 - Debrief start and recognizing our idols 36:58 - Moving beyond fear of pushback 41:13 - Engaging outside of our contexts 46:45 - The idol of Christian nationalism 54:42 - Credits Other resources mentioned: International Fellowship of Evangelical Students - https://ifesworld.org"Gods That Fail: Modern Idolatry and Christian Mission" by Vinoth Ramachandra - https://amzn.to/3dssPV2 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

For centuries Americans have valued their liberty, but a growing number of conservatives are now saying cherished values like the freedom of speech, religion, and the press have allowed progressive beliefs to destroy the culture. In response, some Republicans and conservative Christian thinkers argue it's time to abandon these failed American ideals and copy the fascist, illiberal strategies of leaders like Hungary's Victor Orban to stop immigration, fight wokism, and to ensure the government supports Christian beliefs. Then, a new article about the separation of families at the Southern border brings Phil to tears, and he pleads with evangelicals to not allow Trump near the presidency again. Skye interviews Dr. Richard Mouw about his new book, "How to Be a Patriotic Christian: Love of Country as Love of Neighbor." They discuss godly versus idolatrous forms of patriotism, what the Bible says about the proper role of government, and debate whether churches should display flags and sing patriotic hymns. Bonus Patreon news story - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70304989 News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:38 - "How the American Right Fell in Love with Hungary" 39:22 - Trump administration's family separation policy 54:24 - With God Daily https://withgoddaily.com/ Interview with Richard Mouw "How to Be a Patriotic Christian: Love of Country as Love of Neighbor" - https://amzn.to/3QdVR9E 55:48 - Interview intro 57:10 - Talking with evangelicals about patriotism 59:27 - Defining Christian nationalism 01:01:07 - Healthy patriotism and familial language 1:04:26 - Romans 13 and governmental authority 1:17:49 - Patriotic symbols in worship services 1:30:59 - Credits Other articles/resources mentioned:"How the American Right Fell in Love with Hungary" (The NYT Magazine)-https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/magazine/viktor-orban-rod-dreher.html" The Secret History of Family Separation" (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

What's the correct definition of "woke"? What do Christians in the global south think about sexuality and gender? Biblically, when does life begin? When was America a Christian nation? In this special episode, Phil and Skye respond to voicemails left by Holy Post listeners. Some are serious and others are silly. Plus, additional thoughts about the conservative movement from Episode 519. And, Phil explains why he feels like a celebrity Norwegian walrus named Freya. 0:00 - Intro Animal News 1:40 - Freya the walrus 3:43 - Dead spider claws Voicemail Q&A 5:43 - Q&A intro 7:05 - Angie: What does "woke" even mean? 15:53 - Brandon: How to describe what the Holy Post is doing 22:51 - Crisanne: Christians in the global south on sexuality/gender 30:54 - Dave: Finding community 33:16 - Greg: What are you looking forward to? 35:33 - Josh: Wise media consumption 42:27 - JT: What buddy duo are Skye and Phil? 45:41 - Lucas: Asian Americans in evangelical leadership 51:08 - Natalia: When was America ever a Christian nation? 57:46 - Nick: Biblically, when does life begin? 1:04:07 - Terry: Jesus showing up in 2022 Wrap-up 1:10:55 - Additional thoughts on the conservative movement from episode 519 1:21:30 - Credits Stories and resources mentioned: Freya the walrus- https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/freya-the-walrus-norway-sinking-boats-rcna40174 Dead spider claws - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-use-dead-spiders-to-grip-objects-180980498/ "The Great Awokening" (Vox) - https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18259865/great-awokening-white-liberals-race-polling-trump-2020 The Lausanne Covenant - https://lausanne.org/content/covenant/lausanne-covenant What in the World? Episode 1: The Kingdom of God - https://www.holypost.com/post/what-in-the-world-episode-1-the-kingdom-of-god-with-ruth-padilla-deborst Voxology Podcast (Mike Erre) - https://voxologypodcast.com/ The Movie Proposal Podcast - https://www.holypost.com/movie-proposal-podcast Holy Post episode 519: How Reaganism Won the Church & Skye's New Book - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-519-how-reaganism-won-the-church-skye-s-new-book "What If Jesus Was Serious About the Church?" - https://amzn.to/3PNlVI6 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

For decades, political strategists spoke about the "God gap" in which white religious believers were more Republican and white non-believers more Democratic. Recent data shows a new God gap emerging within the Democratic Party. David French explains how secular white progressives are now pushing religious Black and Latino voters out of the Democratic coalition. Then, Jethani and French explore how Trump has discipled the church more than the church has discipled Trump. There's growing evidence that cruelty, dishonesty, and a refusal to repent are being embraced by Christians aligned with Trump. Will this trend self-correct and what will be its legacy on our culture? 0:00 - Theme song and intro 0:46 - The new God gap 31:33 - Discipled by Trump 1:00:33 - Credits "The God Gap Helps Explain a 'Seismic Shift' in American Politics" (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-most-important-religious-divide "There Is No Remaining Christian Case for Trump" (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/there-is-no-remaining-christian-case

Phil has another "crazy theory," and Skye and Kaitlyn aren't sure what to make of it. What if 1964 is one of the hinge points in American history? 1964, as Phil explains, was the year a Catholic housewife from Illinois and a mid-tier movie star from Hollywood attempted to put an Arizonan libertarian in the White House. Their effort failed, but in the process did they actually plant the seeds that would remake both America and the American church?? Give a listen as Phil spins the story of three unlikely people he believes "made" modern conservatism inside and outside the American church... Barry Goldwater, Phyllis Schlafly and Ronald Reagan. You don't have to agree. Just humor him. PLUS Kaitlyn interviews Skye about his new book - What if Jesus was Serious About the Church? Holy Post Patreon: https://patreon.com/holypost News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:53 - Background and context for Phil's theory 6:54 - Person 1: Barry Goldwater 12:07 - Person 2: Phyllis Schlafly 20:14 - Person 3: Ronald Reagan 35:35 - Debriefing Phil's theory Interview with Skye Jethani "What If Jesus Was Serious About the Church?" - https://amzn.to/3PNlVI6 53:06 - Interview intro 54:45 - Why prescribe something for the church? 57:55 - How we use the word "church" 1:02:38 - Finding a church 1:06:29 - Preacher vs. table 1:17:53 - Authority in the church 1:23:59 - Seeking change within a church community1:30:01 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases

With Trump out of office and the pandemic restrictions eased, Christian Nationalists are looking for new causes to rally the MAGA faithful. The Holy Post crew looks at the latest stories from these holy trollers including Michael Flynn's incoherent argument that the Bible "wrote" most of the Constitution. A new exposé of MAGA worship leader Sean Feucht by Rolling Stone shows his ministry, which has one employee, has raised millions in donations and purchased three houses. And Jemar Tisby offers a useful definition of Christian Nationalism that reveals why it's not Christian at all. Then Kaitlyn Schiess interviews disabled scholar and Shakespeare lecturer, Amy Kenny, about her book My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church. Together, they unpack overlooked or misinterpreted passages in the gospels about disabilities, and Kenny explains why the church is missing out on the prophetic witness and blessing of disability. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 3:56 - Rolling Stone article on Sean Feucht 13:37 - Michael Flynn on the Bible and the Constitution 15:38 - 7 Mountain Dominionists event 24:30 - What do we do about Christian nationalism? 34:37 - Jemar Tisby's definition of Christian nationalism 38:50 - PRRI stat on addressing common problems 48:00 - Holy Post announcements Interview with Amy Kenny "My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church" - https://amzn.to/3OkMfIc 49:51 - Amy Kenny Intro 51:08 - Book background 55:01 - Damaging things Christians say 1:00:13 - Theological errors 1:02:50 - Disability and Scripture 1:20:26 - How churches can think differently about disability 1:26:24 - Credits Articles mentioned in news segment: "MAGA Preacher Sean Feucht Scored Millions From His Trump-Loving Flock" (Rolling Stone) - https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/maga-preacher-sean-feucht-scored-millions-from-his-trump-loving-flock-1380126/ "Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn Says 75-80% of the Constitution was 'Created by the Bible Itself'" (Mediaite) - https://www.mediaite.com/politics/former-national-security-advisor-michael-flynn-says-75-80-of-the-constitution-was-created-by-the-bible-itself/ "The 7 Mountain Dominionists converge on Duluth, Georgia" by John Fea (Current) - https://currentpub.com/2022/07/17/the-7-mountain-dominionists-converge-on-duluth-georgia/ "Christian Nationalism's Influence on American Politics" (with Jemar Tisby, NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/11/1110949385/christian-nationalisms-influence-on-american-politics PRRI stats on prioritizing political cooperation to solve common problems - https://twitter.com/profsamperry/status/1548794843652128774 The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

How big is the scope of the gospel? What does God's kingdom include? And what happens when we discover the American church isn't the center of it? Based on the book Inalienable by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens, in this episode Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) talks to theologian and missiologist Dr. Ruth Padilla DeBorst. With extensive experience in the Latin American church, Padilla DeBorst explains how popular American Christianity misunderstands the Kingdom of God, and how seeking the wisdom of the global church can guild the American church through its current crisis. "Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church" by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc 0:00 - Theme song and intro Interview with Ruth Padilla DeBorst 2:46 - Misunderstandings and assumptions about Christians in the Global South 7:41 - Power and privilege 13:39 - Theologies of liberation 18:10 - Immigrants in the American church 21:06 - Is partnership possible? 25:05 - Celebrity leader dynamics 31:32 - Learning from another contextSponsor: 35:21 - World Relief sponsorship Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Debrief with Matthew Soerens and Daniel Yang 37:18 - Debrief intro 39:18 - U.S. short-term missions 41:25 - Daniel's family experience 44:13 - Communal culture 49:15 - Laying down preferences 55:35 - The good and the bad in American influence1:01:18 - CreditsResource referenced by Daniel Yang: GlocalNet - https://glocal.net/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

A network of global Christian churches have decided to combat climate change by divesting from gas and oil companies. But why aren't any Protestant American churches participating, and do climate activists care that efforts to replace fossil fuels disproportionately harm the poor? And a new article by Beth Allison Barr examines the difference between the political pro-life movement and the biblical pro-life ethic. Then, Matthew Soerens is back to discuss the new book he's co-authored with Eric Costanzo and Daniel Yang, "Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church." As white evangelicals lose their grip on cultural and political power in the U.S., Soerens says they may discover how to follow Christ more faithfully from sisters and brothers in the global church who never had power to begin with. Plus, New Zealand taxes bovine burps. Send us a voicemail! https://www.patreon.com/posts/68742695 News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates 5:04 - Bovine burps 10:39 - Churches combatting climate change 18:08 - Capitalism and poverty 32:03 - Women left behind by the pro-life movement Sponsors 50:59 - Sponsor: One Collective Learn more: https://www.onecollective.org/serve/holypost 52:55 - Sponsor: World Relief Join the Path: https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ Interview with Matthew Soerens "Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church" by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3PlS8pB 54:51 - Matthew Soerens interview intro 57:10 - Challenges in the evangelical American church 1:05:56 - Changing the boogeyman 1:11:38 - Looking to the global church 1:16:48 - U.S. immigration and refugee policies 1:22:04 - "What in the World?" Holy Post miniseries 1:24:54 - Credits Articles referenced in news segment: "New Zealand announces world-first plan to tax cow and sheep burps" (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/06/09/1104014587/new-zealand-announces-world-first-plan-to-tax-cow-and-sheep-burps "Global faith institutions announce divestment..." (Operation Noah) - https://operationnoah.org/featured/press-release-global-faith-institutions-announce-d[…]es-threaten-1-5c-climate-goal-with-reckless-expansion-plans/ "MIT Scientists Propose 'Space Bubbles' to Deflect Solar Radiation, Ease Climate Change" (Popular Mechanics) - https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a40486004/space-bubbles-climate-change/ "The Women Left Behind by the Pro-Life Movement" by Beth Allison Barr (Religion & Politics) - https://religionandpolitics.org/2022/07/11/the-women-left-behind-by-the-pro-life-movement/ Resources mentioned in interview: "American Evangelicalism: Embattled and Thriving" by Christian Smith - https://amzn.to/3P2zIKZ Episode 1 of our "What in the World?" miniseries will be out Friday, 7/15 in the regular Holy Post podcast feed! The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it's losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest's article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book "Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church." Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks... Angry mobs and the end times - https://www.patreon.com/posts/68708383/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:21 - Christian's travelogue and other updates 5:45 - Happy the Elephant 14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings 23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion 30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe 46:07 - Americans' belief in God is dropping Sponsor 52:19 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley "Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church" - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68 Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/ Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work 56:04 - Relevance and trust 1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery 1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions 1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting 1:18:00 - Church leadership culture 1:27:42 - Credits Articles referenced in news segment: "Happy the elephant is not a person, New York's highest court rules" - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules "The Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion" (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees "What has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?" by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church "Poll: Americans' belief in God is dropping" - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/ Resource mentioned in interview: "The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters" by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Phil and Kaitlyn are finally back from (separate) trips to Europe, but they're returning to a very different America. The Supreme Court has officially overturned Roe and ended the Constitutional right to abortion. What's good about the decision? What's concerning? And why is it increasingly unacceptable to have a nuanced understanding of this issue? Then, a new article by Ronald Brownstein says America's relative unity in the 20th century was an anomaly, and the country may be heading toward a permanent split. Can the union be saved? Skye then talked to Amy Sherman, the author of our Holy Post Book Club selection, "Agents of Flourishing: Pursuing Shalom in Every Corner of Society." Sherman says we need a larger, more biblical vision of God's redemption, and we must recapture what it means for Christ's people to be a "royal priesthood" in parts of the culture often overlooked by the church. Plus, Phil's European report includes wild horses, naked Dutch men, and a frustrating lack of Diet Coke. Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess, Faith & Capitalism 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/68383122 News Segment 0:00 - Intro 1:28 - Kaitlyn's travelogue 6:54 - Phil's travelogue 20:03 - America after Roe 44:28 - America growing apart Interview with Amy Sherman Amy Sherman - https://sagamoreinstitute.org/bio-amy-sherman/ "Agents of Flourishing" - https://amzn.to/3HZZdtp 57:07 - Amy Sherman intro 59:02 - Jeremiah 29:7 1:05:27 - Royal priesthood 1:10:08 - Community endowments 1:13:24 - Understanding flourishing 1:24:09 - Ethics and Christian influence Other resources referenced in episode: "Roe Is Reversed, and the Right Isn't Ready" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/roe-is-reversed-and-the-right-isnt "America is Growing Apart, Possibly for Good" by Ronal Brownstein (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/06/red-and-blue-state-divide-is-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/ "No Future Without Forgiveness" by Desmond Tutu - https://amzn.to/3nof6R3 The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

The Supreme Court has ruled that the state of Maine cannot exclude private schools from its voucher program simply because they are religious. David French explains the ruling and how it fits into decades of pro-religious liberty wins. Skye Jethani asks how the courts define "religion" and why secular philosophy has an unfair advantage in public schools. Then, the January 6th hearings are revealing how people within Trump's party and administration thwarted his attempts to reverse the outcome of the election. They've testified about his lies and his illegal actions. So why do so many of them say they'll still vote for him in 2024? French and Jethani discuss how the GOP can move on from Donald Trump, why that's unlikely, and the challenges facing both parties in the next election. 0:00 - Intro 00:38 - Carson v. Makin and school choice 32:23 - Jan. 6th hearings and future of the GOP 1:06:38 - Credits "Mike Pence and the Christian Conflict on January 6" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-profound-christian-conflict-on David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench

A recent article in the Atlantic reveals how the political polarization in the United States is now tearing evangelical churches apart. And Marvin Olasky, the former editor of World Magazine, writes about the dramatic change he witnessed among evangelicals over his long career. Drawing from thousands of letters he received, Olasky concludes, "The Republican party platform has become more important than the gospel for many who identify as evangelicals." Special guest co-host Drew Dyck joins Phil and Skye to discuss the articles. Then, president of Barna research, David Kinnaman, is back with more stats to unpack. With a record number of pastors thinking seriously about quitting, and political polarization listed among the top reasons, Kinnaman says the church is facing a crisis of discipleship. He believes we need a political theology that's rooted in the gospel rather than partisanship. But is it too late? Also this week, fear over climate change is making progressives question the morality of having kids. And, South Korean college students are flush with cash. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:24 - News of the Butt 9:54 - Climate change and having kids 20:15 - How politics poisoned the evangelical church 30:47 - Evangelical Christianity in the age of Trump Sponsors 57:08 - World Relief worldrelief.org/holypost 59:04 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Barna Brief with David Kinnaman 1:00:14 - Barna Brief intro 1:01:32 - Data on pastors considering quitting 1:04:23 - Reason 1: Stress of job 1:06:20 - Reason 2: Loneliness 1:09:54 - Reason 3: Political division 1:21:05 - Good news in this data? 1:29:42 - Credits Barna Brief links: Barna Group, Faith Leadership in a Divided Culture https://shop.barna.com/products/faith-leadership-in-a-divided-culture Resilient Pastor Cohort (discount code is HOLYPOST15): barna.com/cohort "The Resilient Pastor" by Glenn Packiam - https://amzn.to/3HK2f4R News segment links: "South Korean Toilet Allows Students to Pay With Their Poop" - https://interestingengineering.com/south-korean-toilet-allows-students-to-pay-with-their-poop "Your Kids are Not Doomed" by Ezra Klein (NYT Opinion) -https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/opinion/climate-change-should-you-have-kids.html Andrew Walker tweet - https://twitter.com/andrewtwalk/status/1534136018269614081?s=20&t=Hvg_G52SvOYW0k8HIoNQRQ "How Politics Poisoned the Evangelical Church" by Tim Alberta (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/06/evangelical-church-pastors-political-radicalization/629631/ "The Sixty Years' War: Evangelical Christianity in the Age of Trump" by Marvin Olasky (National Review) - https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2022/06/27/the-sixty-years-war-evangelical-christianity-in-the-age-of-trump/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Responses to the mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas, have continued, and there's renewed hope for policy changes. This week, Jo Saxton joins Phil and Skye as a guest co-host to discuss a series of articles from African-American and global Christian leaders about the need to rethink both America's gun policies and the American church's gun culture. Then, BibleProject co-founders, Jon Collins and Tim Mackie, talk with Skye about how their work has shifted from just teaching what's in the Bible to teaching people how to read the Bible. Their new app and podcast series is designed to help us see the Bible as brilliant literature, and not just a depository of quick answers to life's problems. Also this week, should we be concerned that more people are having wedding ceremonies to marry themselves? Holy Post merchandise - https://www.holypost.com/shop Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Political Theology 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/67787080/ BibleProject Patreon Bonus - https://www.patreon.com/posts/67787175/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:10 - Sologamy?? 13:49 - Guns in the home 20:39 - Guns and cars 26:00 - Global perspective on America's gun culture 36:12 - Gun violence and the theology of evil 44:52 - Guns and church 54:44 - Holy Post Announcements Interview with Jon Collins and Tim MackieBibleProject: bibleproject.com BibleProject App: https://bibleproject.com/app/ BibleProject Podcast: https://bibleproject.com/podcasts/the-bible-project-podcast/ 57:09 - Jon Collins and Tim Mackie interview intro 1:00:26 - BibleProject shift toward how to read the Bible 1:06:39 - Bible literacy in America 1:19:38 - Literary beauty in the Bible Articles mentioned in news segment: "Sologamy: India woman's plan to 'marry herself' sparks debate" - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61671032 "Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/ "What would it mean to treat guns the way we treat cars?" (Vox) - https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23151852/gun-violence-cars-crashes-firearms-deaths-youth "This Love of Guns: It's Way Beyond Our Understanding" by Matthew Soerens (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/better-samaritan/2022/june/this-love-of-guns-its-way-beyond-our-understanding.html "What Supporters of Gun Rights Mean When They Talk About 'Evil'" by Esau McCalley (NYT Opinion) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/10/opinion/mass-shooting-evil.html "White Churches, It's Time to Go Pro-Life on Guns" by Charlie Dates (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/june-web-only/uvalde-school-shooting-chicago-go-pro-life-gun-violence.html

Christians who oppose more restrictive gun control policies say we have a God-given constitutional right to self-defense. But is there any evidence to back this claim? With Christian and Kaitlyn both in Europe, Phil and Skye invite Mike Erre from the Voxology podcast to fill the empty co-host chair. Mike looks at the biblical texts cited by gun advocates and says that even if self-defense can be justified, for the Christian it is not a "right." Then, Skye talks to Lina AbuJamra about her book, "Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to Faith in an Age of Deconstruction." Like so many, AbuJamra entered a season of significant doubt not because of anti-Christian messages from the culture, but after experiencing a toxic leadership culture at her church. She shares what restored her faith, the danger of false expectations, and why honesty about our disillusionment is the first step. Also this week—California declares that bees are fish, and scientists accidentally create murder hamsters. What could possibly go wrong? Holy Post 10th Anniversary Merch: https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 4:18 - Bees are fish https://gizmodo.com/bees-fish-california-conservation-endangered-specie-1849009597 9:11 - Murder hamsters https://boingboing.net/2022/05/29/scientists-accidentally-made-a-vicious-mutant-attack-hamster.html 14:55 - Re: French Friday episode on gun control French Friday: Debating Gun Control - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-debating-gun-control 19:39 - Constitutional right to self-defense? The Federalist Papers: No 46 - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed46.asp 27:05 - Biblical right to self-defense? 46:53 - Thoughts and prayers Sponsor 51:28 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Lina AbuJamra: "Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to God in an Age of Deconstruction" - https://amzn.to/3xqCiEa Living with Power - https://www.livingwithpower.org 52:38 - Lina AbuJamra intro 54:44 - Journey that led to deconstruction 1:02:20 - False expectations 1:08:10 - American evangelical leadership crisis 1:15:23 - Honesty in disillusionment 1:24:56 - Credits Other resources mentioned: Voxology podcast - https://voxologypodcast.com The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

*Please be aware that this episode deals with sensitive topics, including suicide and child/adolescent mortality.* In the wake of the elementary school massacre in Uvalde, Texas, David French and Skye Jethani spend the whole episode debating what can be done to curb gun deaths in America. While they find some agreement around "Red Flag" laws and making gun owners liable for the misuse of their weapons, French doesn't support an assault weapons ban or requiring training and evaluation before purchasing a gun. With guns now the leading cause of death for kids and teens in America, Skye says it's time for Christians to explore all possible solutions, including amending the Constitution, similar to the pro-life movement's approach to ending abortion. David French says the 2nd Amendment must be protected as a basic human right. Both agree, however, that the status quo is not acceptable. Holy Post episode 423: "Is America's Gun Culture a Blessing or Curse? with David French" - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-423-is-america-s-gun-culture-a-blessing-or-curse-with-david-french "Pass and Enforce Red Flag Laws. Now."- https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/pass-and-enforce-red-flag-laws-now?s=r" Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children" - https://news.yahoo.com/guns-now-leading-cause-death-190042943.html Advisory Opinions episode: "Mass Shootings and the Law" - https://advisoryopinions.thedispatch.com/p/mass-shootings-and-the-law?s=r#details

The United States has experienced another horrific school shooting, and the country is once again debating guns. Will this time be any different? Phil asks why the U.S. is incapable of passing sensible gun regulations like Australia did 25 years ago, and why do so many evangelicals support America's gun culture and the 2nd Amendment with religious-like devotion? Skye then interviews Andy Crouch about his new book about the dehumanizing effects of technology. Crouch says we are drawn to tech the same way the ancients were tempted by magic. Both offer the promise of "effortless power," but it always comes with a cost. And he says we should look to early Christianity for ways to restore dignity and personhood to our culture. Plus, critical listener responses to our recent Roe v Wade episode. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:22 - Critical listener responses Holy Post episode 508: No More Roe? & the New Scandal of the Evangelical Mind - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-508-no-more-roe-the-new-scandal-of-the-evangelical-mind-with-mark-noll 20:58 - Baby formula 22:26 - America's guns Kaitlyn's tweet: https://twitter.com/KaitlynSchiess/status/1529517008206942209" Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted" - https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback Holy Post episode 423: Is America's Gun Culture a Blessing or Curse? - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-423-is-america-s-gun-culture-a-blessing-or-curse-with-david-french Interview with Andy Crouch"The Life We're Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World" - https://amzn.to/3M6EbtH 51:11 - Andy Crouch intro 53:47 - Technology and magic 59:29 - Media and superpowers 1:14:39 - Early Christianity and personhood 1:26:10 - Interview wrap-up 1:28:42 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

0:00 - Intro 1:57 - Something Old - Josh's: About a Boy 5:57 - Something Old - Skye's: Patton 9:09 - Something New: Operation Mincemeat 10:32 - Josh's Proposal "I propose Operation Mincemeat is a good example of using fiction to tell a true story." 16:11 - Skye's Proposal "This is another one of those movies that proves truth is stranger than fiction and sometimes even more compelling." 23:04 - Something Borrowed - The True Story Behind Netflix's Operation Mincemeat & Movies from the Mountaintop 32:12 - Something Blew - Jason's: The Prestige TV Podcast (Barry Recaps) 34:50 - Something Blew - Josh's: Home Before Dark 39:48 - Something Blew - Skye's: The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel & George Carlin's American Dream 45:59 - Outro Follow The Movie Proposal crew on Twitter: Skye, Josh & Jason Find The Movie Proposal on Facebook

The independent report about the cover-up of sexual abuse within the Southern Baptist Convention has been released, and it's far worse than anyone expected. What does it mean for the SBC and American evangelicalism in general? And Phil asks if there's a difference between engaging in godly cultural transformation and fighting a culture war. Was William Wilberforce a culture warrior? And when are we really seeking change, and when are we just virtue signaling? Then, Kaitlyn welcomes Washington Post opinion columnist and editor, Christine Emba, to discuss her new book "Rethinking Sex: A Provocation." After interviewing dozens of young adults, Emba concludes that evangelical purity culture has problems, but so does the secular message of sex positivity. Instead, she draws from Christian theology and tradition to propose an ethical framework that goes beyond consent alone. Plus, Phil refuses to be concerned about an invasion of aggressive jumping worms. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 3:07 - Jumping worms https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/jumping-worms-have-made-their-way-to-california-17182377.php 9:36 - SBC Report 32:06 - Culture wars or transformation?Sponsor: 48:32 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Christine Emba "Rethinking Sex: A Provocation" - https://amzn.to/38gtHdj "Consent is not enough. We need a new sexual ethic."- https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/17/sex-ethics-rethinking-consent-culture/ 49:41 - Christine Emba intro 52:00 - Book background 54:28 - Misdiagnosing the problem 58:30 - Purity culture versus uncritical sex positivity 1:04:14 - Interviews within book 1:13:35 - Dating app culture 1:24:28 - Willing the good of the other 1:29:12 - Credits Resources mentioned in news segment: "Southern Baptist leaders covered up sex abuse, kept secret database, report says" by Sarah Pulliam Bailey (The Washington Post) - https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2022/05/22/southern-baptist-sex-abuse-report/ "Southern Baptists Refused to Act on Abuse, Despite Secret List of Pastors" by Kate Shellnutt (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/may/southern-baptist-abuse-investigation-sbc-ec-legal-survivors.html "This Is the Southern Baptist Apocalypse" by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/may-web-only/southern-baptist-abuse-apocalypse-russell-moore.html "The Gift of Pain" by Paul Brand and Philip Yancey - https://amzn.to/3wGWjGa The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Despite the uproar over the leaked Supreme Court decision overturning Roe, it turns out 80 percent of Americans have a nuanced view of the issue. Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss responses to last week's show and ask why are we nuanced about some moral issues and absolutist about others. Then, conservative Christians are attacking Tim Keller for his winsome, non-partisan approach to Christianity. They say winsomeness may have worked in the past, but now the culture war is so dangerous that we need a more aggressive and offensive approach. Are they right? Skye interviews Eboo Patel, the founder and president of Interfaith America, about his new book "We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy." Patel, a Muslim-American, talks about the transformative role Christianity had on his calling, why interfaith cooperation is essential, and what concerns him about the current culture of activism in America. Plus, scientists discover the Mariah Carey of jellyfish. "Christian Asks" Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66555715/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates Christian's documentary - https://thegirlwhoworefreedom.com 3:29 - News of the Butt https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bloody-belly-comb-jelly-pooping_n_625e59f1e4b066ecde16f302 10:03 - Responses to last week's show 17:03 - Nuance versus absolutism 28:55 - Tim Keller and the war on winsomeness55:26 - Holy Post Patreon http://patreon.com/holypost Interview with Eboo Patel"We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy" - https://amzn.to/3MquyqO Interfaith America - https://www.interfaithamerica.org57:30 - Eboo Patel - intro 59:20 - Background and calling 1:14:13 - Culture of activism in America 1:26:45 - Interfaith cooperation1:31:49 - CreditsResources and articles mentioned in news segment: ProGrace: prograce.orgHoly Post Episode 254: Rethinking Our Response to Abortion with Angie Weszely - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLa-rjvjAtk"America's Abortion Quandry," Pew Research Center - https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/"Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid" by Jonathan Haidt - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/Tim Keller Twitter thread - https://mobile.twitter.com/timkellernyc/status/1520107742110834699James Wood, "How I Evolved on Tim Keller" - https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2022/05/how-i-evolved-on-tim-kellerSamuel D. James, "Is it Time to Move Past Tim Keller?" - https://samueldjames.substack.com/p/is-it-time-to-move-past-tim-keller?s=rDavid French, "A Critique of Tim Keller Reveals the Moral Devolution of the New Christian Right" https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/a-critique-of-tim-keller-reveals?s=rRod Dreher, "Tim Keller & Myxomatosis Christians" - https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/tim-keller-david-french-myxomatosis-christians/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

The leak of a draft ruling by the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade has the entire country talking. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the overreactions from both the Left and Right, speculate about what a post-Roe America might look like, examine the complicated history of abortion including why many evangelicals originally supported Roe but then dramatically flipped on the issue, and share their hopes for what comes next. Then, acclaimed historian Mark Noll talks about the 30th anniversary of his influential book, "The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind." In the early 1990s, Noll celebrated the strength of the evangelical church, but he warned about a dangerous shortage of evangelical scholars. Today, he fears the opposite. While evangelical scholarship has never been stronger, Noll is deeply concerned about an anti-intellectual church taken with conspiracy theories and partisan politics. Patreon Bonus segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66264481/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:31 - Supreme Court leak - initial reactions 8:49 - Changing views on abortion within evangelical Christianity 19:29 - Overreactions on both sides 33:48 - Upsides 42:55 - Downsides 47:32 - "The Southernization of the Pro-Life Movement" Resources mentioned: Advisory Opinions podcast - "Making Sense of the Supreme Court Leak" Part 1: https://advisoryopinions.thedispatch.com/p/making-sense-of-the-supreme-court?s=r Part 2: https://advisoryopinions.thedispatch.com/p/making-sense-of-the-supreme-court-8db?s=r "If Roe is Overturned, Where Should the Pro-Life Movement Go Next?" by Tish Harrison Warren - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/08/opinion/abortion-roe-dobbs-pro-life.html "Apocalypse Now: How the Left and Right Get Danger Wrong" by Michael Wear - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/april-web-only/political-apocalypse-christianity-right-left-evangelicals.html "This Really Is a Different Pro-Life Movement" by Daniel K. Williams - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/south-abortion-pro-life-protestants-catholics/629779/ Sponsor 57:22 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Mark Noll "The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind" - https://www.eerdmans.com/Products/8204/the-scandal-of-the-evangelical-mind.aspx 58:32 - Mark Noll intro 59:33 - Updated version - why now? 1:02:19 - Christian higher education "We the Fallen People" by Robert Tracy McKenzie - https://amzn.to/3M7oHGO 1:08:50 - Fundamentalism and fear 1:15:33 - Evolution and CRT 1:26:08 - Christian curiosity 1:30:19 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

In the 1980s, Frank Peretti's best-selling novels about the spiritual war between angels and demons captivated evangelicals, but they also fostered a belief that anything out of step with conservative white Christianity was downright satanic. The podcast crew discuss their own experiences with Peretti's books and how they've shaped today's culture war—including a congresswoman's recent statement that Catholics helping immigrants is proof the church is run by Satan. Then, Beth Allison Barr is back one year after the release of her provocative book "The Making of Biblical Womanhood," to discuss what she's learned from her critics as well as from her fans. And she offers pastoral advice for those struggling in patriarchal Christian communities. Plus, a family finds a tasty time capsule in their bathroom wall, and the underappreciated charms of Dubuque, Iowa. Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/65967806/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:24 - Dubuque travelogues 8:10 - Tasty time capsule https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/illinois-family-finds-bag-preserved-mcdonalds-food-half-century-ago-ho-rcna26252 16:49 - Fantasy novels and satanic conspiracies https://religionnews.com/2022/04/28/marjorie-taylor-greene-feuds-with-conservatives-catholics-over-satan-remarks-border-bishops-satan/https://www.vox.com/culture/23033782/frank-peretti-this-present-darkness-piercing-the-darkness-cultural-influence-moral-panic 46:56 - Patreon bonus plug https://www.patreon.com/posts/65967806/ Interview with Beth Allison Barr "The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth" book - https://amzn.to/3KNm8s0Postscript to book - http://cdn.bakerpublishinggroup.com/processed/book-resources/files/The_Making_of_Biblical_Womanhood_-_Postscript_Chapter.pdf?1650389860 47:53 - Intro 48:31 - Journey with book 55:39 - History and theology 58:58 - Untangling cultural elements in scripture 1:03:29 - Hindsight and reflection on critiques 1:12:46 - Role of social media 1:15:59 - Three FAQs https://www.patheos.com/blogs/anxiousbench/2022/03/ideas-about-women-matter-a-resource-list-for-women-in-church-history/ 1:22:17 - Hope? 1:25:09 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

The Supreme Court is hearing arguments in a case about a public high school football coach who prays on the field. Is he violating the First Amendment because he's a state-funded employee engaging in religious activity on the job? Or, is his religious expression protected by the First Amendment? David French explains the court's history on public school teachers and free speech, why he thinks the coach is likely to win, and why religious liberty protections have never been stronger. Then, French talks about his first encounter with Critical Race Theory as a law student at Harvard 30 years ago. Skye asks, if CRT has been around for so long, why is it only now being seen as a threat to both America and Christianity? French explains how the definition of CRT has changed, how it's been leveraged by media voices on the political right since 2020, and why the issue of race may be leading to a new schism in the American church. 00:00 - Intro 00:45 - Football Prayer "Why We Fight About Football Prayers" - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/april-web-only/scouts-football-prayers-kennedy-bremerton-first-amendment.html 31:07 - CRT hysteria "How the Fight Over Critical Race Theory Became a Religious War" - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/how-the-fight-over-critical-race?s=r "Racial Compromise and Complicity at Grove City College" - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/racial-compromise-and-complicity?r=dfab0&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web 1:04:05 - Credits

The battle between Governor DeSantis and Disney is heating up in Florida. The culture war may be good for politicians, but why is it bad for Christians? Then, a former White House spokesperson says if Christians want to win the culture war they need to have more babies. Kaitlyn and Skye explain why that strategy contradicts the New Testament. Phil looks at Grove City College's anti-CRT statement and why the school's attack on Jemar Tisby amounts to revisionist history. Then, Kaitlyn talks with Rachel Anderson from the Center for Public Justice about her advocacy for paid family leave, why the policy is proven to reduce abortions, and how it fits with Christian theology and ethics. Plus, Phil is building a big beautiful wall. News Segment0:00 - Intro 6:15 - DeSantis vs. Disney 25:36 - Christian babies and culture wars https://www.salon.com/2022/03/30/kayleigh-mcenany-wants-more-christian-babies-its-an-overt-call-out-to-paranoia/ 38:07 - Grove City College and Jemar Tisby https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/racial-compromise-and-complicity?utm_medium=ios&s=r Sponsor 47:57 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Rachel Anderson Center for Public Justice: https://www.cpjustice.org Families Valued Policy Resources: https://www.familiesvalued.org/resources-policy 49:08 - Interview intro 53:28 - Paid family leave policies overview 1:01:51 - Theological framework for paid family leave 1:04:25 - Defining family and its purpose 1:07:43 - Difficulties in implementing paid family leave policy in US 1:11:12 - Citizenship as a collective activity 1:16:22 - Resources

In a lengthy article in The Atlantic, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt explains how social media has made our entire society more stupid in the last decade, and compares the disunity it's causing to the Tower of Babel. Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss the article and what can be done to reverse the trends. Then, pastor Albert Tate talks about his new book, "How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation." By sharing personal stories, Tate says we must learn to live with being offended, commit to community, and love anyway. Plus, teenage gorillas are getting too much screen time. News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates 3:03 - Fasting from whiteness https://religionnews.com/2022/04/08/chicago-area-pastor-says-his-church-is-fasting-from-whiteness-and-getting-pushback-during-lent/ 6:16 - Gorillas, teens, and screen time 13:35 - Stupid social media "Why the Past 10 Years of American Live Have Been Uniquely Stupid" by Jonathan Haidt - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/ Holy Post episode 495 with Robert Tracy McKenzie- https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie Unbelievable? The Conference - https://www.unbelievable.live Interview with Albert Tate Albert Tate - https://alberttate.com "How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation" - https://amzn.to/36s6e86 47:51 - Interview intro 49:42 - Committing to community 53:48 - Loving while offended 1:00:07 - When to stay and when to leave 1:04:29 - Generational trauma/injustice and generational privilege 1:18:09 - Hope for the American church 1:24:48 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Conservative political rallies and protests are increasingly using Christian worship music. How is this different than the role of faith in the Civil Rights movement, and why should Christians on all sides be cautious about attaching God's name to their activism? Then, new data says Trump's presidency dramatically altered attitudes about race and prejudice in America. And Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about last week's episode on Disney and LGBTQ representation. Then, author and editor Drew Dyck is back for another round of media recommendations. This installment of "Dyck's Picks" includes a book on deconstruction, some Easter-themed poetry, and a TV drama with something to say to the church about ethics and the culture war. Plus, beware of un-Lucky Charms. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro With God Daily: http://withgoddaily.com 5:22 - News of the Butt https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-investigates-lucky-charms-stomach-illness-reports-rcna23483 8:10 - Listener responses to last week's episode https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-503-woke-disney-teens-in-crisis-racial-reconciliation-with-derwin-gray 20:25 - Political worship rallies https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/christian-right-wing-politics.html 37:43 - Trump's racial topography Sponsor: 48:05 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Dyck's Picks with Drew Dyck: 49:16 - Interview intro 51:31 - Pick 1: "Fractured Faith" by Lina AbuJamra https://amzn.to/3xndQDN 1:1:15 - Pick 2: Yellowstone (TV series) 1:13:20 - Pick 3: "Bower Lodge" by Paul J. Pastor https://amzn.to/3JNmyOB 1:19:23 - Final story: "With" by Skye Jethani https://amzn.to/3uAFdZB 1:24:14 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

The feud between Florida's governor and Disney is getting hotter with new leaked footage of a Disney executive speaking about the company's goals for LGBTQ representation. What are both the Right and Left getting wrong in the debate, and why should we see sexual orientation and gender identity as different from race? Also, new studies show an alarming rise in mental health disorders among teens, but there's some good news for those involved in religious communities. Plus, Derwin Gray is back to talk about his new book, "How to Heal our Racial Divide." He shares how his church is taking the call for racial reconciliation "from the seats to the streets," and why so many church leaders remain afraid to talk about race. News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates 3:30 - Disney controversy update 26:43 - Teen mental health https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/03/31/student-mental-health-decline-cdc/ 31:34 - Religion, college, and mental health https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/opinion/religion-school-success.html https://neurosciencenews.com/religious-accountability-wellbeing-20126/ Interview with Derwin Gray "How to Heal Our Racial Divide" - https://amzn.to/3JaWnkn Derwin Gray - derwinlgray.com 45:44 - Intro 47:18 - Book overview 49:01 - Multiethnic churches and resistance from leaders 1:01:13 - Christian responsibility in fixing unjust systems 1:09:09 - Police 1:17:11 - Importance of mourning 1:26:24 - Credits Other resources mentioned: Holy Post episode 458: "The Gospel Demands Multiethnic Churches" - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-458-the-gospel-demands-multiethnic-churches Derwin Gray's IG live with former CMPD Chief, Kerr Putney: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAxrK4hJzLj/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases

The conservative (and maybe Christian?) satire site Babylon Bee has had their Twitter account suspended for giving a trans woman their "Man of the Year" award. Babylon Bee says they're being punished for speaking the truth, but are they just being mean? And an essay in the Washington Post by Christine Emba says our sexual ethic of consent alone isn't working. Has she uncovered evidence that our secular culture is more receptive to Christian sexual ethics than we thought? Then Kaitlyn Schiess talks with author, poet, and English profess Daniel Bowman Jr. about his book, "On the Spectrum: Autism, Faith, & the Gifts of Neurodiversity." Bowman, who is on the spectrum himself, dispels myths about autism and offers helpful ideas about how we can love those in our families and communities who are neurodiverse. Plus, an update from the Animal News desk. Holy Post Patreon (now with book club!) - https://www.patreon.com/holypost News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:54 - Animal News https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/no-more-monkey-business-publix-will-stop-selling-coconut-milk-collected-from-enslaved-monkeys/ 10:41 - Babylon Bee 19:39 - Sexual ethics https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/17/sex-ethics-rethinking-consent-culture/ Sponsor 49:24 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Daniel Bowman Jr. https://www.danielbowmanjr.com "On the Spectrum: Autism, Faith, & the Gifts of Neurodiversity" - https://amzn.to/3qJnpZC 50:33 - Interview intro and book overview 54:38 - Loving neighbor 58:32 - Neurodiversity and Own Voices 1:02:56 - Culture making "Culture Making" by Andy Crouch - https://amzn.to/3JXvQII 1:07:33 - Autism and the church 1:14:55 - Bad Christian stories 1:19:10 - Loving people across space 1:22:29 - End The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Before recently winning the NCAA women's 500-yard freestyle swimming championship, Lia Thomas competed in the sport as a man. Should that matter? David French talks with Skye Jethani about the complexities of transgender rights, and why we need a more nuanced understanding of what "equal protection" means in the law. Then, French says the real divisions in our culture and politics aren't primarily between Republicans and Democrats, or between conservatives and progressives, but between a traditional understanding of liberalism and the dangers of illiberalism. 0:00 - Intro 0:48 - Trans athletes "What Do We Do When People Are Equal, But Not Alike?" (David French article) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/what-do-we-do-when-people-are-equal?s=r 34:28 - Liberalism and illiberalism 1:02:45 - EndHoly Post Patreon (now with book club!) - patreon.com/holypost

Florida is the latest front in the culture war with a controversial bill to prevent teachers from speaking to children about the existence of same-sex couples or transgender people. But is the bill so vague that it could also prevent schools from acknowledging opposite-sex married couples too? The crew breaks down the intent, and the possible side effects, of Florida's "Don't Say Gay" law. And, what does Disney's response to the controversy tell us about where the wider culture is heading? Then, pastor and president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition (NALEC), Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salguero, joins Skye for a conversation about the growing influence of Latinos within evangelicalism. He says the diverse perspectives of Latino Christians offers the white church a "view from below," and promises to bring renewal to the American church, but we shouldn't romanticize the movement either. Plus, an example of Christian Nationalism in the wild, and goats go to church. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 5:21 - Animal News https://www.al.com/news/2022/03/baaaaaaad-goats-break-into-alabama-church-shatter-glass-door.html 7:52 - An example of Christian nationalism https://www.christianpost.com/voices/is-this-our-last-chance.html 19:49 - Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill 30:13 - Disney's response Sponsor 41:03 - Abide abide.co/holypost Interview with Gabriel Salguero National Latino Evangelical Coalition: https://nalec.org Gabriel Salguero: https://twitter.com/PastorsSalguero 42:14 - Interview start 45:36 - Latino evangelical experience in America 50:32 - Shared challenges 53:47 - Future of the church and evangelicalism 1:03:51 - Navigating recent tumultuous times 1:17:27 - Hope for the future Other resources mentioned: "The Dissenters Trying to Save Evangelicalism From Itself" (David Brooks article) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/opinion/evangelicalism-division-renewal.html

The gang's all here! Phil, Skye, Christian, & Kaitlyn are all in the studio for the first time ever to record this very special episode of the Holy Post. They retell the show's origin story dating all the way to Phil's talkshow dreams in the 1980s, how that accidentally gave rise to VeggieTales, why Skye got roped into the scheme, how Christian went from TV producer to podcast co-host, and how Kaitlyn is leveraging her new Holy Post notoriety. The crew then countdown the Top 10 stories of the last 10 years, and speculate about what the future holds for faith in America. Featuring original songs by Phil, voice messages from the audience, and a mythological Inuit knife, this is an episode for the ages! Holy Post Quiz Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgIOoK0BpkY Holy Post Patreon (now with book club!): patreon.com/holypost Episode 500 merch: holypost.com/shop Special thanks to: Waylon Klix, creator of brick characters included on episode 500 art card and in the video; Ellie Kleinsasser, creator of episode 500 merch design; and all our Patreon supporters who submitted voice messages! (For time's sake, we couldn't include all the voice messages we received, but we loved listening to every one that came in.) 0:00 - Intro song 00:42 - Voice messages: Shelby, Jared, Edgar 02:31 - Holy Post origin story 23:33 - News of the Butt https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X19305371 28:26 - Voice messages: JT, Jere 29:50 - Sponsor - Abide http://abide.co/holypost 31:01 - Announcements 32:47 - Voice messages: Quinn, David 34:23 - 10 stories from 10 years, part 1 "Facts Are Our Friends: Why Sharing Fake News Makes Us Look Stupid and Harms Our Witness" (Ed Stetzer) - https://churchleaders.com/outreach-missions/outreach-missions-articles/299041-facts-friends-sharing-fake-news-makes-us-look-stupid-harms-witness.html 52:20 - Voice messages: Michael, Catherine, Sarah, Ethan 55:21 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost 56:31 - 10 stories from 10 years, part 2 "Justice" video (Bible Project) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A14THPoc4- "Struggling with Evangelicalism" book (Dan Stringer) - https://amzn.to/3MTixL5 1:15:20 - "Crazy" song 1:17:20 - Looking ahead 1:27:59 - Voice messages: Raphael, Rick, Laura, Denise 1:31:01 - End The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Some Southern Baptists say if Voddie Baucham becomes the next president of the SBC it will be a step toward racial reconciliation. When Phil disagreed in a tweet last weekend, it triggered a social media tsunami. He responds to the controversy. Then, the Holy Post crew discusses Jemar Tisby's recent article about how the murder of Trayvon Martin ten years ago ended white evangelicalism's efforts at racial reconciliation. But was the movement flawed from its beginning in the 1990s? Then, Skye has a wide-ranging conversation with author and conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks. They cover recent efforts to rescue evangelicalism from politics, the loss of optimism in the 21st century, our naïveté about democracy, how the world is reacting to the war in Ukraine, and why the church needs to make spiritual formation more challenging not less. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 01:59 - Pat Robertson 4:48 - Phil's Twitter tsunami 11:21 - The end of racial reconciliation? "Trayvon Martin's Murder and the Death of the Evangelical Racial Reconciliation Movement" - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/trayvon-martins-murder-and-the-death?utm_source=url&s=r Sponsor 51:10 - Abide abide.co/holypost Interview with David Brooks 52:22 - Interview intro 54:06 - "Dissenters" article 58:39 - Social trust and technology 1:03:16 - "The Dark Century" article 1:05:22 - Lost view of humanity 1:13:09 - Reactions to the war in Ukraine 1:18:43 - Institutions and spiritual formation 1:26:02 - End "The Dissenters Trying to Save Evangelicalism From Itself" - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/opinion/evangelicalism-division-renewal.html "The Dark Century" - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/opinion/liberalism-democracy-russia-ukraine.html Bonus Patreon segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63559614/ David Brooks books mentioned: "The Social Animal" - https://amzn.to/3vYb8E2 "Bobos in Paradise" - https://amzn.to/3pO5AIB "The Road to Character" - https://amzn.to/378B7yh The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the heroic resistance the Russian troops have encountered raises new questions about patriotism. When is love for our country godly, and when does it unknowingly lead to evil? Plus, a new study tries to define Christian nationalism, explain why Black and White Christian nationalists are so different, and advise how to prevent the heresy from spreading in churches. Then, David Kinnaman, President of the Barna Group, is back for another "Barna Brief." His latest research finds over 70 percent of pastors are very concerned about the spread of Christian nationalism, but most aren't sure what to do about it. And - why measuring church attendance says almost nothing about a church's spiritual health or effectiveness at making disciples. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 4:20 - Ukraine and patriotism February French Friday episode - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-putin-pentecostals-christian-nationalism Interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie- https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie 23:50 - Christian nationalism and race "Christian Nationalism and the January 6, 2021 Insurrection" report - https://bjconline.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Christian_Nationalism_and_the_Jan6_Insurrection-2-9-22.pdf "Theology Cannot Save Us" article - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/february-web-only/christian-theology-evangelicalism-cannot-save-us.html "Trayvon Martin's Murder and the Death of the Evangelical Racial Reconciliation Movement" article - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/trayvon-martins-murder-and-the-death?utm_source=url&s=r Sponsor 47:51 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Barna Brief with David Kinnaman: 49:44 - Interview start 51:40 - Reception to data on pastors 53:59 - Measuring effectiveness of discipleship 1:14:03 - Pastors' concerns about Christian nationalism 1:23:40 - End To learn more about Barna's initiatives for supporting pastors, go to Barna.com/ResilientPastor

During the Cold War, conservatives prided themselves for their opposition to the Soviet Union and totalitarianism and blasted those who wavered as "un-American." In the current crisis in Ukraine, however, we have seen some conservatives defending Putin and Russia. What happened? David French tries to explain why some Republicans and evangelicals foolishly see Putin as a hero and defender of Christendom. Then he discusses his recent article about the rise of Christian Nationalism. Why is it so appealing among independent, Pentecostal churches, how is it spreading beyond those circles, and why are educated, elite Christian leaders reluctant to speak up about it? 0:00 - Intro 3:01 - Crisis in Ukraine"Burning Straw Men by the Bushel"- https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/burning-straw-men-by-the-bushel?utm_source=url Putin's February 21 address - http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67828" We're All Ukrainians Now" - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/were-all-ukrainians-now?utm_source=url 31:13 - Rise of Christian nationalism"The Seeds of Political Violence Are Being Sown in Church" - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-seeds-of-political-violence-are?utm_source=url

Why do black seminarians graduate with a lot more student debt than whites, and what does it mean for churches? A recent Gospel Coalition article by Alisa Childers argues that the word "deconstruction" is universally bad and should not be redeemed. Is she right or is it another example of Christians overreacting to a complicated issue? Then Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn take Childers' online quiz to determine whether they are progressive Christians. Anglican priest and author Tish Harrison Warren talks to Skye about her controversial New York Times column saying it's time to end online streaming worship services, and she argues that the pro-choice movement is hypocritical for not making the choice to keep a child easier. Plus, Phil shares his hard won wisdom about what not to post on Twitter. News Segment 0:00 Intro 3:56 - Trucker protests in Canada 6:55 - COVID death rate graph https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1495044505363492866 14:42 - Black seminarians graduating with more debt https://religionnews.com/2022/02/17/black-seminary-grads-with-debt-higher-than-others-cope-with-money-and-ministry/ Glenn Packiam interview: https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-496-the-embrace-of-tyrants-the-despair-of-pastors 26:43 - Deconstruction https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/redeem-reconstruction/ Interview with Tish Harrison Warren "The Systemic Realities Created by Legal Abortion" article - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/22/opinion/roe-legal-abortion.html "Why Churches Should Drop Their Online Services" article - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/opinion/church-online-services-covid.html 49:41 - Guest intro 51:40 - Abortion and a broken system 55:50 - Feminism and abortion 1:00:23 - Online worship services 1:01:42 - Importance of embodied worship 1:06:04 - Technology in community 1:18:25 - Pushback from people unable to attend services 1:29:37 - End Other Links/Resources: https://tishharrisonwarren.com/ "Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life" book - https://amzn.to/3IbFy9l Patreon Bonus Segments: Full abortion conversation with Tish Harrison Warren - https://www.patreon.com/posts/62922779/ Bonus news story - https://www.patreon.com/posts/62922997/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

A scary number of Americans now say violence may be necessary to fix the country. A new report looks at what combination of beliefs cause a person to endorse political violence, and why it's more common on the right. Then, in response to last week's interview, Phil unpacks how our modern belief in human goodness explains the rise in authoritarianism and populism. And, why are U.S. Christians supporting the "Freedom Convoy" in Canada? A recent study from Barna found more than one-third of pastors have seriously considered leaving ministry in the last year. What's behind this crisis? Is the problem our culture, church members, how we've structured ministry, or is it pastors themselves? Skye talks to Glenn Packiam about his new book, "The Resilient Pastor," and why it's time to reexamine our assumptions about the church and its leadership. Plus, scientists create an artificial fish powered by love. News Segment 0:00 - Intro/updates from the crew 4:44 - Valentine's Day 6:39 - Animal News https://newatlas.com/robotics/biohybrid-fish-human-heart-cells/ 13:08 - Recap: Last week's interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie 18:08 - Study: Moral divisions and authoritarian leaders https://www.psypost.org/2022/02/study-provides-first-evidence-of-a-causal-link-between-perceived-moral-division-and-support-for-authoritarian-leaders-62479 36:36 - Beliefs leading to endorsement of political violence https://www.psypost.org/2022/02/victimhood-racial-identity-and-conspiracism-interact-with-christian-nationalism-to-lead-to-support-for-violence-62589 David French piece: https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-seeds-of-political-violence-are 50:53 - News segment wrap-up Sponsor 53:04 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Glenn Packiam"The Resilient Pastor" - https://amzn.to/34WGgbK https://www.barna.com/resilient-pastor/ 54:17 - Interview intro 56:19 - "Pastor" definition and recent Barna stats 1:00:07 - Glenn Packiam's story/pilgrimage 1:04:02 - Tension in how pastors spend their time 1:13:44 - Authority 1:21:10 - Slowing down 1:28:10 - What's next? The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Should churches stop live-streaming their services and return to in-person worship? A recent editorial by Tish Harrison Warren has gotten a lot of negative reactions from chronically ill and disabled people who value online worship. What does the debate say about our theology of the church? ABC has suspended Whoopi Goldberg for her comments about race and the Holocaust. Is Judaism a race, a religion, an ethnicity, or something else? Some Christians are praising Stephen Colbert for talking about how his faith informs his comedy on his talk show, while others are criticizing him for not explicitly sharing the gospel. Who's right? And David Brooks' recent NY Times article about the evangelical leaders trying to save their movement makes the Holy Post crew ask—When do we try to fix a ministry and when do we leave it? Then, Skye talks to history professor Robert Tracy McKenzie about his new book "We the Fallen People" about what the Founders really believed about democracy and the virtue of the American people. He explains how Americans lost the Founders' belief in human depravity and exchanged it for a false gospel that affirms the inherent goodness of people and democracy, and how that explains the challenges we are now experiencing in our politics. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 4:29 - Should churches stop live-streaming services? Tish Harrison Warren article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/opinion/church-online-services-covid.html Skye's video, "Why You're Sick of Church" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TqmTugUfT0 16:52 - Whoopi Goldberg's comments on race and the Holocaust 26:01 - Stephen Colbert on faith and comedy 36:47 - Institutions - when to fix and when to leave David Brooks article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/opinion/evangelicalism-division-renewal.html Interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie: "We the Fallen People: The Founders and the Future of American Democracy" - https://amzn.to/3gvwP5J Patreon Bonus Interview - https://www.patreon.com/posts/62311740/ 56:04 - Interview Start 57:57 - "Democratic gospel" definition 1:02:02 - Founders' beliefs about democracy and human nature 1:12:46 - "The Great Reversal" 1:20:21 - Jackson and unchecked democracy 1:23:22 - Christianity and partisanship 1:26:03 - Imperial presidency concerns 1:30:08 - End The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Jerry Falwell Jr. is doing damage control following his profile in Vanity Fair (discussed at length in last month's French Friday episode). He's even posted a statement of faith affirming his Christian beliefs. But does that make his behavior better or worse? And how does populism explain his criticism of "religious elites" while enjoying all the benefits of being a religious elite? Is Falwell the victim of nepotism, and should ministry be a family business? Then, a researcher argues that a toxic reaction to the Religious Right can explain a bunch of cultural, political, and religious trends—including the rise of the "nones" and unchecked conspiracy theories. And data suggests Democrats project their moral belief onto their candidates, while Republicans adopt the moral beliefs of their candidates. Then, Skye talks to Dan Kimball about his book and video series, How Not to Read the Bible, about why it's critical for churches to welcome questions and doubts, and how the biblical ignorance of leaders is driving young people to find answers outside the church. News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates from the crew 8:22 - Falwell fallout https://twitter.com/JerryFalwellJr/status/1486903286556938241?s=20&t=XaamDWl84N8x0qY4wbtRtwhttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/01/inside-jerry-falwell-jr-unlikely-rise-and-precipitous-fall January French Friday episode: https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-falwell-the-fruit-of-evangelical-leadership 25:39 - Article: "The backlash against rightwing evangelicals is reshaping American politics and faith" https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/25/the-backlash-against-rightwing-evangelicals-is-reshaping-american-politics-and-faith 44:10 - Study on political candidates and moral beliefs https://www.psypost.org/2022/01/new-study-indicates-republicans-revised-their-moral-beliefs-to-be-more-in-alignment-with-donald-trump-62439 Sponsor 51:40 - Faithful Counseling: faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Dan Kimball 52:53 - Interview start and intro 55:41 - Personal stories that led to the book/series 1:02:04 - Church as a factor 1:05:02 - Broader culture as a factor 1:15:24 - Personal conversion story 1:21:16 - Exclusivity issue 1:31:19 - End Resources mentioned: hownottoreadthebible.com "How (Not) to Read the Bible: Making Sense of the Anti-women, Anti-science, Pro-violence, Pro-slavery and Other Crazy-Sounding Parts of Scripture" - https://amzn.to/3HmHviQ "How (Not) to Read the Bible" Study Guide plus Streaming Video - https://amzn.to/3ujSIwT The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

He was the president of the largest Christian university and an influential political voice for millions of evangelicals. In a lengthy new Vanity Fair profile, however, Jerry Falwell Jr. now says he has contempt for "organized religion" and "religious elites." David French and Skye Jethani discuss the shocking claims Falwell makes about Liberty University, how he lived a double life, and what his downfall says about American evangelicalism. Do Falwell and other disgraced leaders represent a bug or a feature of evangelicalism, and are ministries protecting bad or abusive leaders because they're focused on the wrong fruit? Then, what's the Electoral Count Act of 1887, and why is reforming it essential to protect American democracy? 0:00 - Start 0:21 - STORY 1: Vanity Fair profile of Jerry Falwell Jr. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/01/inside-jerry-falwell-jr-unlikely-rise-and-precipitous-fall 4:17 - Falwell in context 8:16 - Victim or villain? 13:16 - Broader institutional implications 21:05 - Bug or feature? 27:14 - Measuring the wrong fruit 47:19 - An antidote: Being known 53:22 - STORY 2: Electoral Count Act reform https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/stop-screwing-around-and-reform-the 1:06:33 - End

A new study finds evangelicals see most thing in society in categories of good and evil while nonbelievers see more nuance. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the implications. Bob Jones University has a fashion design department. What could possibly go wrong? Pretty much everything when a student discovered his androgynous Jesus coat was a fundamentalist fashion faux pas. Then, art historian Matthew Milliner talks about his new book "The Everlasting People: G.K. Chesterton and the First Nations." Milliner explains the arrogance and injustice of progressivism, and the surprising story of Christianity among indigenous North Americans that rarely gets told. Plus, 100 monkeys on a truck and drunks on a plane. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:29 - Animal News https://apnews.com/article/oddities-pennsylvania-monkeys-animals-52100c02527985f7dde4674724bb3332 8:16 - News of the Butt https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/22/us/covid-flight-passenger-violent.html 16:34 - Fundamentalist fashion faux pas https://baptistnews.com/article/how-a-students-fashion-design-project-upset-the-created-order-at-bob-jones-university/#.Ye7fBS1h1B0 39:50 - Can society be split into good and evil? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/12/21/christians-religiously-unaffiliated-differ-on-whether-most-things-in-society-can-be-divided-into-good-evil/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/the-yuck-factor/580465/ Sponsor 51:40 - This episode is sponsored by Abide: http://abide.co/holypost Interview with Matthew Milliner "The Everlasting People: G.K. Chesterton and the First Nations" - https://amzn.to/3tY6PYx 52:44 - Interview Start/Intro 54:45 - Why this book? 1:01:27 - Chesterton's worldview 1:08:00 - Progressivism then and now 1:15:08 - Christianity in native cultures 1:22:18 - Indigenous symbols 1:30:29 - EndOther resources mentioned: "Orthodoxy" by G.K. Chesterton - https://amzn.to/3G1TYGY"Dream Catchers" by Philip Jenkins - https://amzn.to/3FZJJDm "One Church, Many Tribes" by Richard Twiss - https://amzn.to/3AuRksc "Mixed Blessings" edited by Tolly Bradford & Chelsea Horton - https://amzn.to/35oZgjq The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

To commemorate MLK Day, Phil asks Esau McCaulley if we're making progress on race or if we've gone backwards in the last few years. His answer might surprise you. Skye then interviews Old Testament professor, David T. Lamb, about the updated version of his book, "God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?" Lamb argues that if read correctly, we'd discover the Old Testament is surprisingly progressive rather than barbaric. Also this week, controversy erupts as after school Satan clubs sponsored by The Satanic Temple pop up in elementary schools with Good News clubs. And, a country music star withdraws his support from a Christian school that teaches racism is a reality. Plus, scientists discover sea slugs have an interesting party trick. News Segment0:00 - Start 2:41 - News of the Butt https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/this-sea-slug-can-chop-off-its-head-and-grow-an-entire-new-body-twice1/ 14:25 - After School Satan Club https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/local-news/debate-continues-over-satanic-club-set-to-meet-thursday-at-qc-elementary-school/ 22:19 - John Rich angry about school materials discussing racism https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/pithinthewind/john-rich-is-angry-about-lipscomb-academys-dean-of-intercultural-development/article_d0e7797a-9a3c-5f86-8e8c-fba6dba38951.html Interview with Esau McCaulley Website: https://esaumccaulley.com "Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope" - https://amzn.to/3FA3H7m 35:05 - Interview Start 36:14 - Reflecting on the last 18 months 41:51 - Where the white evangelical church is now 51:04 - Being part of the solution Sponsor 1:00:16 - Faithful Counseling Thanks to Faithful Counseling for sponsoring this episode: faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Announcement 1:01:29 - Livestream with Josh Packard: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Interview with David T. Lamb Website: https://davidtlamb.com/ "God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?" (Expanded Edition) - https://amzn.to/3GH5s49 1:02:52 - Intro/Interview start 1:04:37 - Understanding the Old Testament as progressive 1:15:49 - The issue of collective justice BONUS INTERVIEW (Polygamy in the Old Testament): https://www.patreon.com/posts/61346792/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.