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Citadel, But On-Chain With Ludwig Thouvenin

Citadel, But On-Chain With Ludwig Thouvenin

How sophisticated are trading teams getting? Does retail even stand a chance? Ludwig Thouvenin of Paradigm-backed Sorella Labs joins the show.

The Gwart Show | Blockspace Media

September 15, 20241h 13m

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Show Notes

Ludwig Thouvenin from Sorella discusses Ethereum MEV, Uniswap V4, and the launch of Brontes, an open-source MEV dashboard. He explores the complexities of DeFi liquidity, arbitrage strategies, and the future of Ethereum's protocol design, offering insights into the challenges and opportunities in the evolving crypto landscape.


Follow our guest on Twitter: @SorellaLabs @0xvanbeethoven

Link to the dashboard: https://t.co/tylzKFdetM


00:00 Start

00:57 What is Sorella?

03:38 Types of MEV

06:31 Confidence of MEV identification

11:28 Assumption & discoveries

19:10 Cross-chain MEV

22:08 Large firm advantages

24:41 Trading vs arbitraging

26:26 Big builder landscape

29:43 MEV accelerationist views?

33:58 Private order flow

35:18 Should users know about order flow?

37:38 Angstrom DEX

41:12 Uniswap 3 vs 4

42:52 Why doesn't Uniswap have this functionality?

45:22 Why a hook, not an app?

48:51 System architecture

50:00 Slashing & node count

50:45 Uniswap LPs, WTF?

57:45 Permissionless capital formation

1:00:43 Protocol design

1:06:41 Foreseeable hazards

1:10:21 Ethereum roadmap optimism



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