The Gist

On The Gist, beware the rise of the despot's son-in-law. In the interview, media scrutinizer Brooke Gladstone wrote a graphic novel about the "Influencing Machines" that we often blame modernity's problems on. Facebook is the latest of these, but this time, it's less scapegoat and more actual problem to be reckoned with. Brooke's book, illustrated by Josh Neufeld, is The Influencing Machine: Brooke Gladstone on the Media. In the Spiel—attorney-client privilege, dead? No it taint! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, president Trump just doesn't have the ambition to tackle a problem like Syria. It's a critical week for Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg has two dates with Congress, where he'll be answering questions on the company's loss of millions of its users' data to Cambridge Analytica. Slate writer April Glaser tells us what to expect ahead of the hearings. In the Spiel, the least the Trump circus can do is give us some decent TV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's show, we don't need a whole shadow Cabinet—we just need a shadow Trump. Comedian Hari Kondabolu is back—and this time, he brought his brother. Hari came to comedy after working as a community activist, but his younger brother, Ashok, was a bit more wayward. On The Gist, Ashok recounts his life as a subway vagabond in New York City. Hari and Ashok's new podcast is called Kondabolu Brothers. In the Spiel, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's alarming lack of pun-sense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's Gist, London's enviable crime wave. Plus, what will we think of the Obama presidency in 50 years? Julian Zelizer set out to get really smart people to "take a first cut" at the Obama legacy on an array of issues. One person from his brain trust is Peniel Joseph, who surveys the Obama administration's work on criminal justice. Their book is The Presidency of Barack Obama: A First Historical Assessment. In the Spiel, why Mike rejects both tribes' arguments on the Atlantic's firing of conservative writer Kevin Williamson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's Gist, why the YouTube shooter's use of a handgun doesn't take anything away from arguments to outlaw the AR-15. Plus, Radley Balko tells the story of two men who put innocent Mississippians behind bars using junk science and pseudo-expert testimony. Balko is the co-author, along with Tucker Carrington, of The Cadaver King and the Country Dentist: A True Story of Injustice in the American South. In the Spiel, why the Roseanne reboot isn't harmful pop culture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On Tuesday's Gist, an ode to the end of March Madness. Plus, Maria Konnikova returns to play our favorite game. Are parabens really bad for you? Konnikova is a contributing writer to the New Yorker and author of The Confidence Game. In the Spiel, why David Shulkin got the boot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On Monday's Gist, the White House press corps needs a break. And guest host Mary Wilson knows who should take their place in the interim. Plus, NationalReview.com editor Charles C. W. Cooke explains why he thinks repealing the Second Amendment would be such a losing proposition for gun control advocates. And in the Spiel, Slate's Osita Nwanevu says the media doesn't have a liberal bias problem. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Good Friday is actually pretty great, from a cosmic perspective. In the interview, Aparna Nancherla tells us how to go from introverted kid ("my mom was very afraid of how unassertive I was") to making it in comedy. In the Spiel, a deep dive into the world of acronyms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, the Department of Energy has a chief creative officer? Let's roll with it. In the interview, upstanding Pennsylvanian Amanda Holt updates us on the state's new congressional district lines. In the Spiel, some hyperlinks are all hype, especially when it comes to censoring conservative opinion writers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Sean Hannity doesn't like this podcast. In the interview, Korea expert Bruce Bechtol tells us what might be going on in Kim Jong-un's mind and how to set it on denuclearization. In the Spiel, president Trump might be acting tough on Russia, but he doesn't get what the big deal is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, forget Stormy Daniels. The Kushners' massive loan deals are where the real dirt is at. In the interview, the world's growing complexity can be measured in dusty cables, useless features, and lines of code. Chris Clearfield and András Tilcsik talk about the problems that snowball when even the smallest thing goes wrong. Clearfield and Tilcsik are the authors of Meltdown: Why Our Systems Fail and What We Can Do About It. In the Spiel, any census that asks people about their citizenship status will be pricey and inaccurate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, "affair" is too rich a word to describe anything Donald Trump is emotionally capable of. In the interview, arts reporter Mary M. Lane tells us about the art collection looted by Hitler's art dealer, inherited by that dealer's son, and finally confiscated by the German government. In the Spiel, a survey of Republican bloviating on Sunday's news shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Donald Trump's presidency brings race relations, at best, to a standstill. Case in point: the police shooting in Sacramento, California. The Americans is back for its final season next week. Showrunners Joel Fields and Joe Weisberg talk about their research into ruthless Soviet tactics, their obsession over historical detail, and why these spies are the good guys. In the Spiel, what sound does a giraffe make? Also: It's time for the Lobstar of the Antentwig. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, what to make of yet another round of White House reshuffling. As mayor of New Orleans, Mitch Landrieu has used his office to take down four of the city's Confederate monuments. His new book reckons with race relations in his city, the South, and the country. Landrieu's book is In the Shadow of Statues: A White Southerner Confronts History. In the Spiel, semantics, sexuality, and Cynthia Nixon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, even if we get a law to make Robert Mueller unfireable, President Trump could trample all over it. In the interview, sports journalist Mary Pilon tells the story of Olympic sailor Kevin Hall's struggle with the Truman Show delusion (where someone believes he or she is the focus of a reality TV program). Pilon's new book is The Kevin Show: An Olympic Athlete's Battle With Mental Illness. In the Spiel, Stormy Daniels might win the right to talk. But can her story trouble Trump's presidency, or would it just be tabloid fodder? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, before Donald Trump's headline-hogging presidency, things like bridge collapses made news for more than a few days. In the interview, Cass Sunstein's new book asks if the U.S. is fundamentally immune to authoritarianism, or whether president Trump has proved the opposite. His new book—Can It Happen Here?: Authoritarianism in America—puts the question to more than a dozen leading writers. In the Spiel, Betsy DeVos is totally incompetent, but at least that's made obvious every time she speaks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's Gist, we're nixing the Spiel to go on a Slate Podcasts retreat! Shouldn't the White House staff have their own officewide retreat day? Plus, Maria Konnikova considers receipt paper toxicity: Is it BS? Konnikova writes for the New Yorker and is the author of The Confidence Game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, "meddling" is too weak a word to describe what Russia did during in the U.S. election. In the interview, Chris Molanphy walks us through the No. 1 hits of 1969, the year flower power and psychedelic pop went fully mainstream. Chris is the host of Slate's Hit Parade. In the Spiel, our Congress members represent way too many constituents—700,000 on average—to stay in touch with their needs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, the Trump administration walks back a line about U.S. trade with Canada. And which American president was the studliest? Kate and J.D. Dobson are out with a book that considers Ulysses S. Grant's quiet charisma, Franklin Pierce's youthful charm, and the distinguished eyebrows of a certain Warren G. Harding. The Dobsons are the authors of Hottest Heads of State, Volume 1: The American Presidents. In the Spiel, the world's greatest toy store goes down. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Well, it's a tough day to be Fox News. On today's Gist, a closer look at the Department of State. It's not that Rex Tillerson was wrong to want to reform how we do diplomacy—it's that he utterly failed to deliver. Tom Hill, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution, says the U.S. approach to international relations is antiquated and the diplomatic corps is bloated. Tillerson had a mandate to rethink our State Department. He blew it. In the Spiel, why the special election in Pennsylvania's 18th Congressional District was not so special. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's Gist, the lesser-known story of Colombia: Maria McFarland Sanchez-Moreno has written a moving account of Colombia's post–Pablo Escobar years, when the illegal drug trade was taken up by one of the factions in the country's long-running civil war. Her book, There Are No Dead Here, spotlights the work of Colombians who risked their lives to wrest their country back from lawlessness. It also reveals the incoherence of the United States' war on drugs, which indirectly fueled so much of Colombia's suffering. McFarland is the executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance. In the Spiel, why a surprise primary win in Texas makes complete sense when you learn the victor's name. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, is it OK to ape a Russian accent when saying Russian names? And we revisit an interview with filmmaker Bryan Fogel, whose documentary, Icarus, recently won an Academy Award. In the Spiel, a short conversation with author Steven Pinker about the state of academia. Is it really doing that badly? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, if sitting down with North Korea wasn't a good idea for past U.S. presidents, how is it a good idea for our current one? In the interview, Slate's Fred Kaplan and former Ambassador to the U.N. Bill Richardson are both cautiously optimistic about upcoming negotiations between Trump and Kim Jong-un. In the Spiel, some miscellaneous (positive!) news. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, it's a Jon Favreau–flavored mash-up: Swing Wars. In the interview, the walls cave in, the props catch fire, the actors stammer and forget … and it's all part of the plan. Kevin McCollum, one of the producers of Broadway's longest-running play, tells Mike how The Play That Goes Wrong makes audiences laugh. In the Spiel: By breaking them, at least the Trump administration is making us bone up on obscure but important rules. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, who's left to work for Trump when even the nincompoops are quitting? In the interview, Richard Aborn has helped get gun control laws on the books. As president of the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City, he has the data on what works, what doesn't, and how New York City got so safe. In the Spiel, the average Joe has no idea how tariffs actually work. That makes it tough to reason with him. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Lego business is hurting. In Steve James' latest documentary, the bank is the good guy. New York's district attorney brought charges against a Chinatown-based bank after the 2008 financial crisis, even though the bank had little to do with subprime mortgages. James is the director of the Oscar-nominated Abacus: Small Enough to Jail. In the Spiel, the unpersuasive handwringing over putting Sam Nunberg on live TV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, if iHeart Media wants to do better, they really ought to change their name. Did you watch the Oscars? Did you think they were a little lame? Writer Catie Lazarus provides a safe space for your Academy Awards–related shade. Lazarus is host of the Employee of the Month Show. Come see it live on March 15 in New York with guests Hannibal Buress, Emily Mortimer, Alex Lacamoire, and the Resistance Revival Chorus. In the Spiel, don't let Ben Carson's $31,000 fiasco distract you from the ongoing travesty that is the White House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Well, what do you know? In 2016, Trump tweeted that he wasn't trying to get a top security clearance for his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. A year later, he's finally right. On The Gist, what's so special about an octopus? Slate's Daniel Engber has a takedown of the many-armed beast of the deep: The research on cephalopod intelligence is flimsy, he says, and the octopus is hardly the first animal to have fascinated us with its methods of escape. In the Spiel, it's time to name another Lobstar. One more thing: Please fill out the Slate podcast survey at Slate.com/podcastsurvey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Today on The Gist, a unified theory of Donald Trump. Plus, Trump dragged his fellow Republicans and made his Democrats grin like Cheshire cats at the televised meeting on gun control. What are the chances that the White House lets Trump's comments stand? Mike talks to Slate politics writer Jim Newell. In the Spiel, the president has a lot of retrograde ideas that suit him. Here's one that doesn't: steel tariffs. One more thing: Please fill out the Slate podcast survey at slate.com/podcastsurvey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Quick, who's the Federal Reserve chairman? If you can't remember, take heart: Our minds are filled to capacity with the flotsam and jetsam of the Trump White House. On The Gist, are you as virtuous as you think? Likely not. Christian Miller delved into social science research to find out if we tend to misjudge the strength of our own moral fiber. Miller's book is The Character Gap: How Good Are We? In the Spiel, NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch has a hard time living up to her own media criticism. One more thing: Please fill out the Slate podcast survey at slate.com/podcastsurvey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hang onto your skirts: Clueless co-star Stacey Dash is running for Congress. On The Gist, returning champion Maria Konnikova is back to sum up the social science on poker tells: Are they BS? Konnikova writes for the New Yorker and is the author of The Confidence Game. In the Spiel, we should acknowledge our progress. Please fill out the Slate podcast survey at slate.com/podcastsurvey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, President Trump's latest poetry reading. Last week on the show, we talked about the manifold reasons for optimism in the world. This week, Harvard cognitive scientist Steven Pinker builds on that argument, adding that we've had a roughly 300-year run of steady improvements in technology, health, and civility. It just so happens that the only thing as constant as human progress is our tendency to focus on human shortcomings. Pinker's latest book is Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress. In the Spiel, why it should be worrying that the California Democratic Party snubbed Sen. Dianne Feinstein. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Trump boosted an empty idea at CPAC: arming teachers to stop mass shooters. In the interview, Derek DelGaudio is the magician of our time. His one-man show, In & of Itself, questions identity in a political atmosphere that's consumed by it. In the Spiel, "unsubstantiated" stories about Trump's lecherous behavior on the set of The Apprentice are obviously, completely, and sadly believable. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, NBC's coverage of Olympic athletes' backstories is a little too obvious. Slate tech writers April Glaser and Will Oremus examine the most plausible methods for reining in our tech overlords. Glaser and Oremus are the hosts of Slate's If Then. In the Spiel, NRA honcho Wayne LaPierre's speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference was downright loony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Jeopardy! host Alex Trebek will be moderating a gubernatorial debate in Pennsylvania. Mike says no thanks. In the interview, Gregg Easterbrook is ever the optimist. Despite what your push alerts and Facebook news feed are telling you, the world is steadily getting safer, wealthier, and less afflicted by war and disease. Easterbrook is the author of It's Better Than It Looks: Reasons for Optimism in an Age of Fear. In the Spiel, gun control advocates shouldn't compromise. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Team USA's low medal count would be a bummer if these Winter Olympics weren't so goofy. In the interview, Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs didn't campaign on universal basic income, but he's bringing it to his city. Later this year, some residents will start getting $500 a month. In the Spiel, conservative commentators have it plain wrong when it comes to gun control. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, the market for "how to survive a shooting spree" videos shows how far we've strayed in dealing with gun violence. Interracial marriage on a national level has only been legal for 50 years, after the landmark Supreme Court decision Loving v. Virginia. Anna Holmes and Lacey Schwartz are two of the minds behind The Loving Generation, a video series by Topic.com on identity and dynamics within multiracial families. In the Spiel, it's a no-brainer: Ban civilian ownership of the AR-15, and fewer will die. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Filling in for Mike Pesca today is Leon Neyfakh, still smoldering after his first season as host of Slate's hit podcast, Slow Burn. Leon is indulging in a new fascination lately: the latest "left Twix vs. right Twix" ad campaign and its insistence that we should all pick one. But, of course, we insist on taking sides. Slate writer Justin Peters sheds some light on the New York Times' swift hiring and firing of tech journalist Quinn Norton. In Leon's Spiel: We must have some moral absolutes. But what is the cost of eschewing bothsidesism? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, names are stupidly important when it comes to getting elected. The Trump administration is proposing a boost in military spending, but the country's defense budget actually peaked under President Obama during the troop surge for the war in Afghanistan. Bipartisan support for massive defense spending has been the norm since the Reagan era. Foreign Policy's Dan De Luce tells us about it. In the Spiel, lawyer Michael Cohen's out-of-pocket expenses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, on the White House budget's effort to replace half of food-stamp funding with crappy meal boxes. How do you fix one of the most gerrymandered states in the country? It helps to have a tireless amateur mapmaker in your ranks. Mike talks to Amanda Holt, who spurred Pennsylvania to redraw its legislative districts in 2013 and is closely watching the state's ongoing court battle over its congressional districts. In the Spiel, the American intelligence community still has to convince the White House that Russia's up to no good. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's Gist, we get metaphysical. The White House is always in chaos. But can chaos be a permanent condition? Maria Konnikova returns to play our favorite game and answer the question: Does an athletic uniform's color affect the athlete's performance? Konnikova writes for the New Yorker is the author of The Confidence Game. In the Spiel, why Norway is a Winter Olympics marvel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, it's The $10,000 Pyramid with a budget deal twist. Is it possible we don't know enough about national debt to call our politicians when they're peddling nonsense? New Yorker staff writer Adam Davidson addresses some common misconceptions and sums up the Republican tax cuts and spending bill this way: "Rich people are stealing the money." In the Spiel, the Olympics are back, and the Russians got off easy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, the "When did you stop beating your wife?" question in the White House press briefing. In the interview, Iran may have shelved its nuclear ambitions, but the Middle East is still in trouble. Slate's Joshua Keating wonders if the Iran deal was worth it. In the Spiel, the world of the FEMA scammer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Trump wants a parade. On The Gist, America's longest war, in Afghanistan, rumbles on under a third U.S. president. There is still no exit plan. Steve Coll's new book explores the covert side of America's campaign in Afghanistan and the secretive Pakistani intelligence wing lending support to the Taliban. Coll's book isDirectorate S: The C.I.A. and America's Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In the Spiel, considering Christopher Steele and Carter Page. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Listen, chattering classes: Let's at least chatter correctly. We take a minute on the proper name pronunciation for the scandals of the day. Today on The Gist, U.S. foreign policy is a mess. But U.S. foreign policy has been a mess for decades. Ian Bremmer, president of the Eurasia Group, explains. In the Spiel, what they were thinking in the stands of President Trump's speech on Monday in Ohio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist: Dow goes down, Trump gets mad. In the interview, comedian Phil Rosenthal went to six cities across the globe to eat everything they had to offer and put it on Netflix. He tells Mike about his new show, Somebody Feed Phil, and the creative angst behind the sitcom that put him on the map: Everybody Loves Raymond. In the Spiel, Justin Timberlake didn't bring sexy back thanks to white privilege alone. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Super Bowl LII is an occasion to ask the age-old question: Who's more obnoxious, people from Philadelphia or Boston? Plus, Another Period takes the Gilded Age as its setting to satirize the worst of reality TV: extravagant wealth, petty arguments, and a shaky camera. Riki Lindhome co-created and stars in the Comedy Central show. In the Spiel, a reprise of the vaunted documentary, Busted: 43 Minutes of Crisis and Conflict, a production of the American Dream is Deadworks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lyndon B. Johnson doesn't always get the consideration he deserves as one of America's great presidents. On today's Gist, historian Joshua Zeitz says LBJ's fight for welfare reform and civil rights redefined the country, even as those legal achievements come under attack by today's Republican Party. Zeitz is the author of Building the Great Society: Inside Lyndon Johnson's White House. Plus, a Spiel from the 2016 archives: Vote Jabba! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, Trey Gowdy bows out. Fred Kaplan explains why foreign policy experts are concerned by the Trump administration's move to renege on its choice of ambassador to South Korea at the last minute. Kaplan writes the War Stories column for Slate. He is the author, most recently, of Dark Territory: The Secret History of Cyber War. In the Spiel, you know what they say: The president who claps the loudest pleases the crowd best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On The Gist, the pomposity and circumstantial evidence of the State of the Union. Janesville, Wisconsin, had the oldest operating GM assembly plant in the country until 2008. The factory's closure left thousands of employees in the lurch. Amy Goldstein's book Janesville: An American Story describes the choices facing three families as they pick up the pieces of a busted local economy. In the Spiel, the right things to say when you're being nuked and the right way to say them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.