The Freetrail Podcast with Dylan Bowman

This interview is part of Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Western States 100, the most important trail running event in North America. Our shows and athlete interviews are hosted each day by Dylan Bowman who sits down to talk with some of the favorites who are racing this year. In this interview, Dylan talks to professional runner, Tara Dower (Altra). In 2024, Tara famously set the FKT on the AT, solidifying her as one of the best through hikers in the world. Recently, she's thrown down very fast times at some of the most competitive trail races, including a 2nd place at the 2024 Black Canyon 100k and a very impressive win at the Lake Sonoma 50. Her enthusiasm is contagious and we're excited to see her in the mix at the Western States 100. Make sure to tune into all of Freetrail's coverage leading into the 2025 Western States. We'll have a daily show Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of race week before we set our sites on the official broadcast where Dylan will be commentating, and provide photo and video coverage of the race for the Freetrail social channels. Make sure to follow along here and @runfreetrail on Instagram. Make sure to play Freetrail's own fantasy trail running at https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events and pick 10-deep for Western States. Fantasy winners this week will receive a head to toe trail kit from HOKA as well as other sweet prizes from Freetrail and brand partners like Ketone and Neversecond. Our Western States coverage is brought to you by our good friends at HOKA. We're grateful for their generous support and belief in Freetrail. Make sure to check out the latest and greatest from HOKA, the Mafate X. The Mafate X is all about innovation and pushing past limits. HOKA evolved their max-cushion trail experience to provide the confidence, control, and adaptability ultra runners require for their biggest trail efforts. Embracing the paradox of max cushion and stability on trail to develop a new experience for the longest adventures. You can learn more and shop here: https://www.hoka.com/en/us/mafate/ Freetrail Links: Website | https://freetrail.com/ Freetrail Pro | https://freetrail.com/pro/ Patreon | / dylanbowman Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/runfreetrai... YouTube | / @freetrail Freetrail Experts | https://freetrail.com/experts/ Dylan Links: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/dylanbo/?hl=en Twitter | https://twitter.com/dylanbo?lang=en LinkedIn | / dylan-bowman-06174380

This interview is part of Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Western States 100, the most important trail running event in North America. Our shows and athlete interviews are hosted each day by Dylan Bowman who sits down to talk with some of the favorites who are racing this year. In this interview, Dylan talks to professional runner, Dan Jones (Terrex). Dan lives and trains most of the year in New Zealand and has thrown down incredible performances at major races around the globe including multiple wins at the Tarawera 100k. Dan was 5th at the Western States 100 in 2023, and 4th in 2024. No doubt, he comes back hungrier than ever this year. What do you think, is 2025 Dan's year? Make sure to tune into all of Freetrail's coverage leading into the 2025 Western States. We'll have a daily show Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of race week before we set our sites on the official broadcast where Dylan will be commentating, and provide photo and video coverage of the race for the Freetrail social channels. Make sure to follow along here and @runfreetrail on Instagram. Make sure to play Freetrail's own fantasy trail running at https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events and pick 10-deep for Western States. Fantasy winners this week will receive a head to toe trail kit from HOKA as well as other sweet prizes from Freetrail and brand partners like Ketone and Neversecond. Our Western States coverage is brought to you by our good friends at HOKA. We're grateful for their generous support and belief in Freetrail. Make sure to check out the latest and greatest from HOKA, the Mafate X. The Mafate X is all about innovation and pushing past limits. HOKA evolved their max-cushion trail experience to provide the confidence, control, and adaptability ultra runners require for their biggest trail efforts. Embracing the paradox of max cushion and stability on trail to develop a new experience for the longest adventures. You can learn more and shop here: https://www.hoka.com/en/us/mafate/ Freetrail Links: Website | https://freetrail.com/ Freetrail Pro | https://freetrail.com/pro/ Patreon | / dylanbowman Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/runfreetrai... YouTube | / @freetrail Freetrail Experts | https://freetrail.com/experts/ Dylan Links: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/dylanbo/?hl=en Twitter | https://twitter.com/dylanbo?lang=en LinkedIn | / dylan-bowman-06174380

Rich Roll is an ultra endurance athlete, author, and host of the Rich Roll Podcast. He's one of the most influential voices in modern fitness, health, and wellness. This is his first appearance on the podcast. Topics: Rich's recent back surgery Realigning personal intentions during a period of forced rest The value of stepping back and taking sabbaticals The ingredients of successful self-transformation Rich's orientation towards being of service Wrestling with athletic identity The art of communication Voice Change Media A lot more! REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Rest Day, Freetrail's occasional news pod covering the latest happenings in trail running. This week we're joined by Corrine Malcolm & Matt Trappe. The docket: Shea Aquilano signs with Nike More attrition from the men's race at Western States Trail Running Tastemakers The 114th Dipsea Race Cirque Series goes Beast Coast Ethan Newberry Wins an Emmy! Subscribe to Matt's Newsletter Check out Auteur Sportif REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Please leave us a review on Apple podcasts or wherever you digest the show! Thank you!! Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Stephanie Case is a Canadian pro ultra runner and human rights lawyer based in Chamonix, FR. Over the last few years, Stephanie has been very open about her fertility journey, including miscarriages and failed IVF treatments, and all the emotional turmoil of her path to motherhood. At the end of 2024, Stephanie gave birth to her daughter Pepper, and in May 2025, Stephanie returned to the racecourse for the first time in nearly 3 years, winning the Snowdonia by UTMB 100k. The performance has gained immense mainstream news coverage. This is her third appearance on the podcast: Stephanie's fertility struggles The financial and lifestyle sacrifices on the path to motherhood Return to racing at Snowdonia, only 6 months post-partum Starting with a 30min disadvantage Lessons on optimism Preparing for Hardrock in July A lot more! REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Today's episode is a crosscast with our other show, Second Nature. If you enjoy this type of content, search and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast player or on YouTube. Alex King launched his brand Terignōta less than a year ago, showing the industry that it is possible to deliver high quality running apparel without breaking the bank. In this extremely transparent conversation, Alex shares all of the details of the business. As a first-time founder, Alex shares all of the lessons he's learned, as well as his plans for the future of Terignōta. Show Notes: Terignōta: https://terignota.com/ Trailmix Article: https://wearetrailmix.substack.com/p/what-if-running-apparel-was-cheaper Warby Parker HIBT Episode: https://www.npr.org/2018/03/26/586048422/warby-parker-dave-gilboa-neil-blumenthal Terignōta x Abigail West: https://terignota.com/products/abigail-west-x-crest-cap Shopify Loan Program: https://www.shopify.com/capital Outside Buyer's Guide: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/clothing-apparel/best-running-shirts-for-men/ Brand, Product, Content: Gates $100k Prize: https://go.gates.com/GBD-100k-BELTED-PURSE.html Andy Irons Film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJWIPRvtAHk HY.Q: https://www.drinkhyq.com/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

Welcome to Rest Day, Freetrail's occasional news pod covering the latest happenings in trail running. The docket today: Western States Training Camp Jim Walmsley, Hayden Hawks, & Jon Rea withdraw from Western States Is Kilian the WS favorite? Unbreakable 2 cancellation What to expect at at TrailCon Freetrail's Trailgating coverage of Broken Arrow and WS Zegama recap Sunnape Scramble preview REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Joaquin Lopez is a professional trail runner from Ecuador, living in Barcelona. After many years of strong performances, Joaquin had a huge international breakthrough, finishing 3rd at the 2024 UTMB. Building off that momentum, Joaquin started his 2025 season with a huge win and course record at the Mt. Fuji 100 in Japan, winning by a large margin. This is his first appearance on the podcast. Topics discussed: Ecuadorian sporting culture The state of Latin American trail running Having a clear purpose and its benefit to performance Joaquin's background in adventure racing The 2024 UTMB and what led to that breakthrough Joaquin's method for goal setting and race selection The dominant Mt. Fuji 100 performance Joaquin's sponsor Kailas His work with the Pro Trail Runners Association A lot more! *Note: In the podcast, Joaquin says his first ultra was in 2019 - he meant to say 2012, when he was 19 years old. Subscribe to Joaquin's Substack Follow Joaquin on Strava REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava If you enjoyed the show, please consider leaving us a 5 star rating and review in the Apple podcast player to help other listeners find us.

Hans Troyer is a pro trail runner for Altra living in Cartersville, GA. He burst onto the scene with a win and course record at the Bandera 100k in 2024. At only 25 years old, he's one of the most exciting young talents in the sport. Most recently, Hans finished 2nd at the Canyons 100k, earning a Golden Ticket to the 2025 Western States 100. This is his first appearance on the podcast. Topics: The meaning behind Hans' various taglines Cartersville, GA and how it's shaped him as an athlete Big breakthrough at the 2024 Bandera 100k When the competitive drive goes to far: Rhabdo at Black Canyon Training under the tutelage of David Roche Canyons 100k performance Goals for Western States A lot more! REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Hans Troyer's YouTube channel Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

In this conversation, Tommie Runz shares his inspiring journey of personal transformation, focusing on his struggles with alcohol addiction and his path to sobriety through running. He discusses the critical moments that led to his decision to change, the importance of community support, and how running has become a pivotal force in his life. Tommie reflects on the significance of saying 'yes' to opportunities and the power of choosing one's own path in the face of adversity. We also discuss Tommie's life-changing journey through The Speed Project, a grueling 340-mile race from Santa Monica to Las Vegas, which Tommie did solo this spring. Topics: Discovering alcohol and falling into addiction Tommie's rock bottom moment Getting sober and the ingredients of self-transformation Discovering running and investing in health Running all six World Marathon Majors in a calendar year The magic of the speed project Tommie's experience running 340 miles in five days Finishing in Las Vegas Tommie's fundraiser for release recovery A lot more! REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Listen to the Tommis Runz show Donate to Tommie's Speed Project fundraiser Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Rest Day, Freetrail's occasional news pod covering the latest happenings in trail running. The docket today: Canyons by UTMB debrief Western States Golden Ticket recap Great Wall Trail, Madeira, & Mt. Fuji 100 highlights Cocodona 250 preview The emerging trends of athletes becoming employees of their brand partners REGISTER FOR TRAILCON Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Canyons by UTMB hosted by Dylan Bowman. Today we recap the 100k and 50k races. Thanks to everyone for tuning into this weekend's coverage! And a huge thanks to HOKA!

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Canyons by UTMB. Today's show previews the 50k -- one of the most exciting 50k races of the season. Today's cohosts are Dylan Bowman, Corrine Malcolm, and Tim Tollefson. Play fantasy here: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events/a97a930b-e6a7-454b-b67f-b6dea6a55c8a Thanks to HOKA for supporting our coverage! Check out the new HOKA Mafate X: https://www.hoka.com/en/us/coming-soon/mafate-x/1161990.html?dwvar_1161990_color=ZTM

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Canyons by UTMB. Today's show previews the Golden Ticket battle for entry to the 2025 Western States 100. Today's cohosts are Dylan Bowman, Corrine Malcolm, and Tim Tollefson. We're also joined at the end by Maggie Tides from the Placer Land Trust -- an organization that protects wild places for recreation, agriculture, and simple existence. Thanks to HOKA for supporting our coverage!

Welcome to Rest Day, Freetrail's occasional news pod covering the latest happenings in trail running. The docket today: Katie Schide & Germain Grangier return to On Warner Brothers Discovery broadcast partnership with Golden Trail World Series EmKay Sullivan's Golden Ticket rolls down to Abby Hall Golden Trail World Series kicks off in Asia Gorge Waterfalls, Lake Sonoma, & Desert RATs recaps Read TrailMix newsletter Play Fantasy this weekend Subscribe to our YouTube Subscribe to our Newsletter Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Katie Schide is the reigning Trail Runner of the Year, a Western States and UTMB champion, and Germain Grangier is a UTMB and Diagonale des Fous podium performer -- they are two of the best trail runners in the world. This episode goes deeper into the major breaking news that they have officially re-signed a long term partnership with On, the Swiss performance juggernaut and one of the fastest growing brands in the world. We discuss their history with On, testing and developing confidence in the new product, On's increased investments in the outdoor and trail categories, the excitement of working with such a fast growing brand, navigating the process together as a team and all the considerations that went into this huge decision. Of course, at the end we talk about their upcoming trail season which will be highlighted by their participation at Hardrock Congrats to Katie and Germain on this big new step. Hope you enjoy the show. Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Gorge Waterfalls hosted by Dylan Bowman. Huge thanks to our race sponsors, links below: SPEEDLAND - Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear - https://www.runspeedland.com NEVERSECOND - Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at - https://never2.com

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Gorge Waterfalls. Thanks to the sponsors of the race, links below: SPEEDLAND - Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear - https://www.runspeedland.com NEVERSECOND - Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at - https://never2.com

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Gorge Waterfalls. Thanks to the sponsors of the race, links below: SPEEDLAND - Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear - https://www.runspeedland.com NEVERSECOND - Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at - https://never2.com

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Gorge Waterfalls. In this episode we'll welcome some of our elite athletes in the 100k, Adam Peterman, Jeff Colt, Jon Rea, Klaire Rhodes, & Jade Belzberg. Thanks to the sponsors of the race, links below: SPEEDLAND - Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear - https://www.runspeedland.com NEVERSECOND - Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at - https://never2.com

Bill and Loren Armstrong, the husband and wife team behind NEVERSECOND - the cutting edge nutrition brand that in only a couple years has become very popular among trail runners, establishing itself as a leader in the category. Of course, Freetrail has officially been in partnership with NEVERSECOND since the beginning of the year, and in that time we've loved getting to know Bill and Loren and have developed a huge admiration for how they conduct themselves and their business – a quality and professionalism that 100% shows up in their products, which are exquisite. I'm excited to share a bit more of their story here. Topics discuss: Their previous business Whipsmart which they owned and operated for 20 years The founding story of N2 and building a business on their own terms We talk about branding, timing, differentiation and other practical business considerations The systems based approach to fueling and recovery The NEVERSECOND product line and what sets it apart Doing things that don't scale Working with some of the best athletes in the sport including Katie Schide and a funny story about connecting with Jim Walmsley The future of the brand The flavorless C30 gel that hit the market this week! A lot more Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Alex Honnold is among the most accomplished climbers in history. Bursting into the mainstream consciousness in 2008, Alex has personally changed what people have viewed to be possible in the vertical world. In 2017, Alex did the first ever free solo of El Capitan in Yosemite Valley, a feat that many consider to be the greatest athletic accomplishment in history, and that was documented in the Oscar winning film, Free Solo. We're honored to host him on the podcast. Learn more about The Honnold Foundation: https://www.honnoldfoundation.org/#mission Topics: Where Alex is the arc of his career His feelings recollecting to the times before he was famous The inspiration Alex took from climbing legend Peter Croft The state of climbing as a sport and the impact of the Olympics Training and the similarities between running and climbing How becoming a parent has impacted goal setting The physical and psychological toll of being a pro athlete for two decades Staying motivated over time Alex's relationship with competition The aftermath of Free Solo and what Alex called his "deployment to Hollywood" His home in Las Vegas and why it's a great place to live The Honnold Foundation A lot more! Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Rest Day, Freetrail's occasional news pod covering the latest happenings in trail running. The docket today: Salomon Athlete Team Presentation Team Camps (Salomon, TERREX, Asics, CRAFT, & Brooks) Chianti by UTMB Barkley Marathons Tenerife by UTMB Alex Proctor breaking Dylan's 14 year old CR Newsletter signup Adidas TERREX: New Faces Video Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Big Alta. Our co-hosts today are Dylan Bowman, David Lam, & Paddy O'Leary. Thanks to the sponsors of the race, links below: SPEEDLAND - Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear - https://www.runspeedland.com NEVERSECOND - Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at - https://never2.com GOLDWIN - 15％off coupon: BIGALTA0323 at the SF store (where bib pickup is)

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Big Alta. Our co-hosts today are Dylan Bowman, David Lam, & Paddy O'Leary. Thanks to the sponsors of the race, links below: SPEEDLAND - Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear - https://www.runspeedland.com NEVERSECOND - Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at - https://never2.com GOLDWIN - 15％off coupon: BIGALTA0323 at the SF store (where bib pickup is)

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Big Alta. This is our race preview show, setting up the weekend of racing. This show especially focuses on the 50k. Our co-hosts today are Dylan Bowman, David Lam, & Paddy O'Leary. Thanks to the sponsors of the race, links below: SPEEDLAND - Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear - @ https://www.runspeedland.com NEVERSECOND - Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at @ https://www.never2.com GOLDWIN - 15％off coupon: BIGALTA0323 at the SF store (where bib pickup is)

Johen DeLeon is an up and coming pro trail runner from Crested Butte, CO. We discovered Johen at the Cirque Series A-Basin last September where he finished 2nd behind Patrick Kipngeno in a very competitive field. We did an interview with Johen after the race where the Freetrail team and the extended Freetrail audience fell in love with Johen, his personality, and his story. During that interview an idea was born to crowdfund Johen's participation at back to back Golden Trail World Series events on the following two weekends. It was the start of a great friendship. Today, Johen joins for a real long form chat about his background, goals for the future, and a really exciting new partnership with SATISFY. This weekend, Johen will race at The Big Alta 28k, making his competitive debut with his new sponsors. Follow Johen on IG Follow Johen on Strava Register for TrailCon Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Rest Day, Freetrail's occasional news pod covering the latest happenings in trail running. The docket today: Chuckanut recap Barkley Marathons is underway Rod Farvard breaks Jim Walmsley's CR at Santa Barbara Nine Trails Anton re-signs with La Sportiva Golden Tickets at Chianti this weekend The Big Alta schedule A lot more! Follow Keith Dunn on X Register for TrailCon Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Rest Day, Freetrail's occasional news pod covering the latest happenings in trail running. The docket today: Riley Brady signs with Nike Sabrina Stanley signs with OnlyFans Jazmine Lowther signs with Arc'Teryx Cat Bradley signs with SATISFY Transgrancaria results Courtney Dauwalter's season opener Chuckanut preview Chianti by UTMB preview Jim Walmsley's season opener The Big Alta preview A lot more! Caleb Olson's Substack Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Seth Ruhling is a pro runner for The North Face living in Boulder, CO. A few weeks ago, Seth won and broke the course record at the Black Canyon 100k, earning a Golden Ticket to the Western States 100 in June. He's also a co-host of the viral sensation, Boulder Boys Podcast. This is his first appearance on the show. Follow Seth on Strava Topics discussed: Seth's approach to competition through the lens of the 2023 CCC Background and history with sport His breakout race at the 2019 JFK How Jim Walmsley influenced Seth How Zach Miller enabled Seth's first pro contract We talk about the Boulder Boys, exploring each person's unique spirit and how it impacts the group Seth's training and the groove he found building towards Black Canyon Seth's spiritual life The strategy and execution at Black Canyon Look ahead to Western States The Boulder Boys Podcast A lot more! Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Riley Brady is a pro trail runner living in Boulder, CO. Riley has been building a solid resume over the years but has recently broken through to achieve two huge back-to-back wins at the Javelina Jundred and Black Canyon 100k. This is Riley's first appearance on the podcast. Topics discussed: Riley's move to boulder and the benefit of the community and training environment Being at peace and its benefits to performance Riley's background growing up on the east coast The benefits of not taking the safe route and setting big goals in life Riley's training and progression with coach David Roche Riley's win at Javelina, a performance that Riley was surprisingly not totally satisfied with The massive 30min CR at Black Canyon 100k Training towards Western States Being patient and waiting for the right sponsorship A lot more! Follow Riley on Strava Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

In this special bonus episode, we make an important announcement about On's presenting sponsorship of TrailCon. Soft-launching in 2024, TrailCon returns to Palisades Tahoe June 24th & 25th with the critical support of On - the Swiss running and performance brand that's been growing massively in recent years. This episode is broken into two parts. In the first half, David Kilgore joins the show again. The Global Head of Outdoor Athlete Strategy, David has been a critical member of the On team for years. David speaks about the partnership from On's perspective and how the brand is thinking about the trail market generally. In the second half, our TrailCon partners Brendan Madigan and Doug Emslie join to expand a bit on the format and the vision for what we hope TrailCon achieves in 2025. TrailCon is completely FREE and open to the public. Registration can be found here. Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Tarawera by UTMB! Set against the beautiful backdrop of Rotorua, NZ, an outdoor and trail sport mecca known for its rolling hills, thermal pools, and beautiful lakes, Tarawera plays host to four different race distances — 100m, 102k, 50k, & 21k. Thanks to HOKA for supporting the show!

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Tarawera by UTMB! Set against the beautiful backdrop of Rotorua, NZ, an outdoor and trail sport mecca known for its rolling hills, thermal pools, and beautiful lakes, Tarawera plays host to four different race distances — 100m, 102k, 50k, & 21k. We'll be covering as much as we can from all races, with a particular focus on the 102k where four Golden Tickets to Western States are on the line. This is our official 102k pre-race show discussing the history of Tarawera, the course, the top contenders, and our predictions for how things might unfold. Follow along for coverage all weekend and follow us on IG for race day coverage from the course. Thanks to HOKA for supporting the show!

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Tarawera by UTMB! Set against the beautiful backdrop of Rotorua, NZ, an outdoor and trail sport mecca known for its rolling hills, thermal pools, and beautiful lakes, Tarawera plays host to four different race distances — 100m, 102k, 50k, & 21k. We'll be covering as much as we can from all races, with a particular focus on the 102k where four Golden Tickets to Western States are on the line. This is our official 102k pre-race show discussing the history of Tarawera, the course, the top contenders, and our predictions for how things might unfold. Follow along for coverage all weekend and follow us on IG for race day coverage from the course. Thanks to HOKA for supporting the show!

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Tarawera by UTMB! Set against the beautiful backdrop of Rotorua, NZ, an outdoor and trail sport mecca known for its rolling hills, thermal pools, and beautiful lakes, Tarawera plays host to four different race distances — 100m, 102k, 50k, & 21k. We'll be covering as much as we can from all races, with a particular focus on the 102k where four Golden Tickets to Western States are on the line. Follow along for coverage all weekend and follow us on IG for race day coverage from the course. Thanks to HOKA for supporting the show!

Welcome to Freetrail's coverage of the 2025 Tarawera by UTMB! Set against the beautiful backdrop of Rotorua, NZ, an outdoor and trail sport mecca known for its rolling hills, thermal pools, and beautiful lakes, Tarawera plays host to four different race distances — 100m, 102k, 50k, & 21k. We'll be covering as much as we can from all races, with a particular focus on the 102k where four Golden Tickets to Western States are on the line. Follow along for coverage all weekend and follow us on IG for race day coverage from the course. Thanks to HOKA for supporting the show!

Clare Gallagher is a professional runner for Patagonia, living in Boulder, CO. She is among the most decorated athletes of the last decade, winning many of the sport's most iconic events including Western States, CCC, Black Canyon, & Leadville. Outside of her athletic talent, Clare is also just a very interesting person. A third year PhD student, poet, and environmental advocate, Clare has always approached her career differently from other pro athletes. Clare is a close friend who I really respect. It was great to catch up again in today's episode. Topics discussed: Balancing her pro racing career and PhD work at CU Clare's current relationship with running, racing, and the expectations of pro athletes Her relationship with the digital world Clare's emerging interest in poetry and writing Her participation in the Snowman Race in Bhutan last fall What Clare is inspired about as an athlete in 2025 A lot more! Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Dylan and Corrine sit down to discuss current events in trail running: — HOKA athlete signings, including Corrine — Joyce Njeru to NNormal — Brooks signs young talent — Cody Lind to TERREX — Craft x trailfest. and the inaugural Mammoth 200 — New races, Mingus Traverse 82 & Alpenglow 100 BLACK CANYON FANTASY - https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Dakota Jones is a longtime professional trail runner for NNormal, living in Salt Lake City, UT. He is also the Founder and Executive Director of Footprints, an environmental non-profit that endeavors to nurture a new generation of leaders in tackling climate action projects in their local communities. On February 15th, Dakota will be chasing the 100-mile American Record at Jackpot Ultras in Las Vegas, NV, currently held by Zach Bitter in 11:19:13. As part of this record attempt, Dakota is raising money for Footprints, hoping to secure $30k to support the 2025 campers. Freetrail is proud to contribute and support the fundraiser. Topics discussed: Reflecting on 17 years in the sport Evolving with the times and continuing to improve Training for the record attempt How Footprints provides purpose for Dakota The idea of pursuing our life's work Collective action & heart work Footprints fundraising goals Dakota's goals for the rest of the season A lot more! DONATE TO FOOTPRINTS FOOTPRINTS FUNDRAISER DECK Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Mario Fraioli is a running thought leader, media creator, and coach based in Marin County, CA. He is the author of The Morning Shakeout newsletter and the host of The Morning Shakeout podcast. Every year, we get together to riff on various topics, especially focusing on our respective lives, running journeys, and media careers. It's become a very fun annual tradition. This year, we also discuss Mario's relationship with Vincent Bouillard and the running prowess of BYU alumni. Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Corrine Malcolm returns to talk through some news in the trail running world. Topics: Learnings from the Stian Angermund episode Athlete free agency announcements Arc of Attrition and Hong Kong 100 results Way too early Gorge Waterfalls 100k preview Upcoming coverage of Black Canyon 100k and Tarawera Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Stian Angermund is a two-time World Champion trail runner from Norway. One of the best performing athletes in the sport for the past decade, Stian has been noticeably absent from the racing circuit since OCC by UTMB 2023 – the 50k World Final – where Stian won for the 2nd time. After OCC, it came to light that Stian had tested positive for a diuretic called Chlorthalidone – a substance that is banned in and out-of-competition for masking other banned substances or facilitating rapid weight loss. Stian has spent the last year and a half defending himself against these allegations and has vehemently maintained his innocence. To my knowledge, this is Stian's first time speaking about the subject in a long-form interview and, to his credit, he left nothing out-of-bounds, supplying me with all relevant documentation from the case. Of course, doping is serious, it does happen, and when it does, it's a terrible violation of everything that makes sport great. At the same time, there are banned athletes who are innocent or who test positive under questionable circumstances. Recognizing that this is a touchy subject that deserves scrutiny and seriousness, I encourage you to listen with an open mind and allow Stian to tell his side of the story. We walk through the entire timeline of events, the emotional cost in losing his career, the financial cost of defending himself, the public support he's received, lessons learned, advice for other pro athletes, his goals for returning to sport, and a lot more. READ THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Michelino Sunseri is a professional runner living in Driggs, ID. In September 2024, Michelino broke the existing FKT on the Grand Teton, held for 12 years by Andy Anderson - one of the longest standing and most iconic up/down speed records in mountain running. During the attempt, Michelino made the strategic decision to take the "Old Climber's Trail," deviating from the official route for a period during the descent. Michelino managed to lower the existing FKT by a little over 2mins, finishing in 2:50:50. A few days after the run, controversy emerged as it related to Michelino's decision to use the Old Climber's Trail, creating a debate about FKT ethics and whether Michelino deserved to retain the record even though he used a slightly different route from the previous record holder. A week later, on September 9th, Fastest Known Time officially rejected the record based on objections from the National Park Service based again on Michelino's decision to use the Old Climber's Trail instead of staying on the officially recognized route. On September 25, 2024, the NPS charged Michelino under 36 CFR 2.1(b) with an initial court appearance, a statute that carries a maximum penalty of $5,000 and/or six months in jail. In this podcast, we discuss the history of FKTs on the Grand Teton, including Michelino's personal history projecting the route. We talk through the ethics of FKTs and the grey area that exists and that this event revealed. We discuss the rejection of his FKT and the subsequent legal squabble that has ensued. Please visit the following links to learn more: Michelino's Strava file from the attempt Grand Teton FKT page Written recap of the timeline Petition to drop the charges against Michelino Anton & Kilian video from 2012 Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off your first order of NEVERSECOND nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Corrine Malcolm joins the show again to break down the news in trail running. Topics discussed: Trail Runner of the Year results & analysis Trail Performance of the Year results & analysis Athlete specialization and the disciplines represented in the results American bias and whether it was present in the 2024 results Feedback received from trail fans Honorable mentions: 11-20th TROY & 6-10 TPOY Pro athlete free agency Courtney Dauwalter's contract extension with Salomon Big name athletes on the move David Roche intentionally remaining independent Stian Angermund's post about the resolution of his suspension and return to racing Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off of your first order of Never Second nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Gina Lucrezi is a longtime trail runner and the founder of Trail Sisters, a global organization providing education, resources, and community to female trail runners around the world. Recently Gina ran for Commissioner of Chaffee County where she lives in Buena Vista, CO. Her campaign was captured in a film made by Auteur Sportif which documents how Gina has led a life of service and how she plans to continue that work as a public servant. This is her first appearance on the podcast. Topics discussed: Gina's background and how the seeds of her career were planted The founding story of Trail Sisters Growing and nurturing the community over time The introduction of Trail Sisters Approved standards The future of Trail Sisters as Gina prepares to take office Chaffee County, where it is and what makes it special The importance of local politics and why it "gets in your blood" The realities of campaigning, including fundraising and communication with constituents Her goals for her term A lot more! Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FREETRAIL25 for 25% off Never Second nutrition at never2.com Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Karel Sabbe is a trail runner for On from Belgium, specializing in long trail FKTs. Most notably Karel set the PCT FKT in 2016, the AT FKT in 2021, the Via Alpina FKT in 2021, and the PCT FKT again in 2023. He is also a Barkley Marathons finisher and Bigs Backyard Ultra World Champion. The longer and harder the adventures, the more he excels. This is his first appearance on the podcast. Topics discussed: Karel's early exposure to long trail hiking The original inspiration to pursue FKTs The psychological and spiritual space Karel discovers in long efforts Karel's two completions on the PCT Comparing and contrasting the AT and the PCT Tara Dower's new AT FKT and their different approaches Karel's brother-in-law and crew chief Lessons from his 2023 Barkley finish Announcing his next big project beginning early next year A lot more! FOLLOW KAREL ON IG FOLLOW KAREL ON STRAVA KAREL'S PROFILE ON FKT Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Corrine Malcolm is a pro trail runner, media personality, and co-host of the Trail Society Podcast. She is our most frequent recurring guest and also Freetrail's Editor-in-Chief. As is our tradition, Corrine is back for our End of Year Podcast where we celebrate the 2024 trail running season. These are the categories that we review: Trail Runner Of The Year: Top-5 M/W Performance Of The Year: Top-3 M/F FKTs Of The Year Rookies Of The Year Overall Story of 2024 Bill Dooper Spirit Award - Someone who made an impact outside of being a good athlete Predictions for 2025 Personal highlights from 2024 and what we're excited about for 2025 Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Nick Thompson is the CEO of The Atlantic, the famous American magazine and digital publisher founded in 1857. Before that, Nick was an Editor at both Wired and The New Yorker, developing a reputation for his great reporting, unique perspectives, and impactful stories across a range of subject matter. In addition to his amazing professional career, Nick has also been a committed runner for life, a talented marathon runner, who is now dabbling in trail and ultrarunning. Back in 2021, Nick set an age group American record for 50k running 3:04, famously at the same time that Des Linden broke the Women's world record at the distance. Now, Nick is experimenting with trail and ultra running, doing a few 50 milers and a 100k, with at least some curiosity about the 100 mile distance. I've been a massive admirer of Nick's for a while. A media guy who is also a runner, Nick is an inspiration for me and I'm honored to have him on the show. FOLLOW NICK ON LINKEDIN FOLLOW NICK ON IG FOLLOW NICK ON STRAVA MOSTLY HARMLESS STORY & FOLLOWUP VOTE FOR TROY VOTE FOR TPOY Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Lauren Gregory is a pro athlete for Nike Trail living in New England. This season, Lauren had a big breakthrough in her professional career, notching three top-10 performances in Golden Trail World Series races, including an amazing 2nd place finish at the World Final in October. She has a huge career ahead of her and we're excited to host her on the podcast. Topics discussed: Lauren's background and history with sport Her bronze medal from the 2017 Junior Mountain Running World Championship Winning an NCAA Cross Country National Championship Signing with Nike and the realities of going pro The Trail Team and how it's onboarded new athletes to trail running The advantages and disadvantages of living on the East Coast Her coach Ben True, and he's influenced her training Her 2024 season and reasons for the success Goals for the future A lot more! VOTE FOR TROY VOTE FOR TPOY FOLLOW LAUREN ON IG FOLLOW LAUREN ON STRAVA Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava