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The Dental Boardroom

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Show overview

The Dental Boardroom has been publishing since 2020, and across the 6 years since has built a catalogue of 163 episodes. That works out to roughly 140 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.

Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 40 min and 1h 1m — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Education show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 4 weeks ago, with 25 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2025, with 63 episodes published. Published by PracticeCFO.

Episodes
163
Running
2020–2026 · 6y
Median length
52 min
Cadence
Fortnightly

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A place for dentists to find expert insight and information around everything from navigating residency and associate opportunities to being a successful dental practice owner.

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161: The Trusted Transition: Dental Practice Brokers & Better Technology

Jun 3, 202654 min

160: The Life Razor - Cut Through What Doesn’t Matter

Jun 2, 202640 min

159: ES: AI & The Dental Practice

May 27, 202643 min

158: The Richest Dentist You Know Isn't the Wealthiest

May 7, 202645 min

157: 30 Dinners Left - Why Money Isn't Wealth

May 4, 202647 min

156: Build the Practice or Build the Life? The Reinvestment Decision Every Dentist Faces

May 1, 202643 min

155: 2026 Q1 Financial Market Update

Apr 28, 202625 min

154: The Hidden Ceiling: How Doctors Cap Their Own Practice Growth

Apr 23, 20261h 4m

153: Cost Segregation Tax Strategy for Dentists - Part 5

Apr 21, 202650 min

152: Cost Segregation Tax Strategy for Dentists - Part 4

Apr 16, 202645 min

151: Cost Segregation Tax Strategy for Dentists - Part 3

Apr 14, 202631 min

Ep 150150: Cost Segregation Tax Strategy for Dentists - Part 2

In Part 2 of this series, Wes Read builds on the cost segregation foundation from Part 1 to cover the critical structural decisions every building-owning dentist must get right. He opens with a firm warning against holding your building inside your S-Corporation, walks through the correct two-entity structure, and then dives into passive activity rules — including the often-asked question about qualifying a spouse as a real estate professional.Key Topics Covered1. Critical Warning: Never Hold Your Building in Your S-CorpWes outlines four major reasons why placing your building inside your dental S-Corporation is one of the most costly mistakes a dentist can make:Extraction is a tax nightmare. Pulling real estate out later triggers a taxable distribution at fair market value, potentially creating a $200K-$250K tax billLiability exposure: the building is exposed to malpractice claims and employment disputes inside the operating entityFinancing complications, lenders underwrite commercial real estate separately; mixing it with operating assets creates problems for refinancing and equity linesState licensing compliance in many states, non-dentists cannot own a dental professional corporation; a separate LLC keeps ownership clean2. The Right Structure: Two-Entity StrategyThe correct setup involves three layers:You (the dentist) file a personal 1040 tax returnDental S-Corporation owns the practice, generates clinical revenue, and pays rent to the building LLCReal Estate LLC (disregarded, single-member) owns the building, collects rent, deducts mortgage interest and building expenses, and applies cost segregation depreciationThe dental S-Corp pays rent to the real estate LLC. This reduces K-1 taxable income from the dental practice. The rental income in the LLC is then offset by expenses, including mortgage interest, maintenance, and most importantly, cost segregation depreciation.3. Disregarded LLC ExplainedA disregarded LLC provides state-level liability protection but does not exist as a separate entity for federal tax purposes. It files directly on Schedule E, Page 1 of your personal 1040, the lowest-cost, simplest filing structure.If married, spouses can often be treated as a single member (check your state). If a non-spouse partner is involved, the LLC must file as a partnership — a separate tax return.4. Passive Activity RulesRental income and losses in your building LLC are classified as passive. Key points:Passive losses can offset passive income (rent collected) dollar-for-dollar — potentially making rental income tax-free in early yearsPassive losses generally cannot offset W-2 or K-1 income from your dental practiceException: if your AGI is under $100,000, up to $25,000 of passive losses can offset active incomeFor owner-operated buildings (you are both tenant and landlord), limitations are stricter5. The Real Estate Professional ExceptionIf you or your spouse qualifies as a real estate professional (750+ hours per year, more than any other professional activity), all passive losses from the building LLC can offset any income, including dental W-2 and K-1. This can create a $400K-$500K year-one deduction that nets against dental income.For most practicing dentists, this is not achievable. However, for dentists with a stay-at-home or non-working spouse, having the spouse obtain a real estate license, manage properties, and log 750+ hours is a legitimate and powerful strategy. This must be well-documented and is audit-sensitive.

Apr 9, 202630 min

Ep 149149: Cost Segregation Tax Strategy for Dentists -Part 1

In this episode, Wes Read walks dentists through one of the most powerful and underutilized tax strategies available to building-owning dental professionals: cost segregation. With a focus on education and practical application, Wes explains how the two-entity structure (dental S-Corp + real estate LLC), combined with a formal cost segregation study, can generate massive upfront tax deductions that accelerate wealth building. He covers the fundamentals of depreciation, the mechanics of cost segregation, real-world examples, and what to watch out for.Key Topics CoveredPractice CFO Background & the Wealth Advisor ModelWes explains how Practice CFO was built as a fiduciary-based firm integrating CPA services with financial planning specifically designed for practice-owning dentists to accelerate personal financial independence.The Three-Pocket FrameworkEvery practice-owning dentist operates across three financial entities: the dental practice (S-Corp), the building LLC (real estate), and personal finances. Understanding cash flow across all three is the foundation of advanced tax planning.What Is Cost Segregation?A formal engineering + accounting study that reclassifies building components from the standard 39-year depreciation schedule into shorter 5-, 7-, or 15-year asset classes — dramatically accelerating tax deductions.Depreciation 101Wes explains straight-line vs. accelerated depreciation, asset classes (5-year, 7-year, 15-year, 39-year), MACRS depreciation schedules, and how bonus depreciation allows dentists to take massive deductions in year one.Real-World Example: $2M BuildingUsing a $2 million dental office as a case study: ~30% ($600K) is reclassified, enabling a potential $200–400K deduction in year one when paired with bonus depreciation — at zero additional cash outlay.Pros of Cost SegregationFront-loaded paper losses, offsetting rental income, building real wealth via appreciating assets, lookback studies for existing buildings, and estate planning advantages through gifting LLC interests.Cons & CautionsDepreciation recapture (25% federal tax on sale), passive activity rules limiting loss deductions against active income, and the requirement to use a qualified cost segregation firm ($5–15K study fee).Key TakeawaysCost segregation is a legal, IRS-recognized tax strategy, not a loophole. It's tax avoidance (legal), not tax evasion.Two entities are required: a dental S-Corp (practice) and a separate real estate LLC (building). Never mix them.Typically, ~30% of a building's value can be reclassified into 5–15 year asset classes, dramatically accelerating depreciation.On a $2M building, cost segregation + bonus depreciation can generate $200–400K in year-one tax deductions with no additional cash outlay.The deduction reduces the taxable rental income flowing from the dental S-Corp to the building LLC, lowering your personal tax bill.Depreciation recapture applies when you sell: the IRS taxes recovered depreciation at 25% federally. Plan your exit strategy early.Passive activity rules prevent most dentists from using building LLC losses to offset active dental income; instead, losses carry forward.A qualified cost segregation firm is essential. Studies cost $5–15K but can generate 10–20x ROI in tax savings.Lookback studies may allow dentists who have owned their building for years to capture missed depreciation; consult your CPA carefully.Estate planning benefits: you can gradually give LLC interest to heirs over time using the annual gift exclusion, reducing estate tax exposure.

Apr 7, 202644 min

Ep 148148: Why Your Marketing Campaigns are Falling Flat

In this executive session of The Dental Boardroom Podcast, Wes Read is joined by Michael Anderson (Wondrous) and Megan Shelton (Shelton Solutions) to break down one of the most misunderstood drivers of practice growth: marketing offers.The conversation goes far beyond “$99 new patient specials” and explores what truly makes an offer effective in today’s competitive dental landscape. From identifying when practices should (and shouldn’t) use offers, to understanding how operations and patient experience directly impact ROI, this episode highlights the interconnected roles of marketing, operations, and financial systems.The team also dives into tracking ROI, improving case acceptance, leveraging lifetime patient value, and why many dentists believe marketing “doesn’t work” when the real issue lies inside the practice.If you want to attract the right patients, convert them effectively, and build a profitable, sustainable practice, this episode is a must-listen.What You’ll LearnThe difference between a weak offer and a high-converting offerWhen dental practices should (and should NOT) run offersHow to evaluate your local market and competition effectivelyWhy tracking data and ROI is critical to marketing successThe role of front desk training in converting marketing leadsHow patient experience impacts case acceptance and retentionWhy lifetime patient value matters more than day-one ROIThe connection between marketing, operations, and financial systemsHow poor operations can make great marketing failSimple ways to test, refine, and improve your offers over timeKey Takeaways1. Not Every Practice Needs an OfferOffers should match your stage of growth. Startups may need them to attract patients, but established practices at capacity often don’t.2. Value Beats PriceA strong offer isn’t about being the cheapest; it’s about clearly communicating the value and outcome for the patient.3. Differentiate or DisappearIf your offer looks like everyone else’s, it won’t stand out. Unique positioning is what captures attention.4. Marketing Fails Without Strong OperationsEven great marketing won’t work if your team can’t handle calls, build trust, or convert patients effectively.5. Case Acceptance is the Real LeverLow case acceptance (around 33–35%) shows that improving communication and patient experience can drive more growth than more marketing.6. Track Everything That MattersLeads alone don’t matter; track how many become patients and how much revenue they generate to truly measure ROI.7. Think Long-Term with Patient ValueA patient’s lifetime value far exceeds the initial visit, making it worth investing more upfront to acquire the right patients.8. Your Front Desk Drives ConversionsConfidence, clarity, and proper scripting at the front desk can make or break your marketing results.9. Discounts Should Support, Not Replace ValueIf your team relies only on discounts to close cases, it signals a deeper issue in communication and positioning.10. Systems Must Work TogetherMarketing, operations, and financial management are interconnected—success happens when all three are aligned.11. Training is Non-NegotiableRole-playing and consistent training help teams improve communication and increase patient trust and conversions.12. Evolve Beyond Offers Over TimeAs your brand, reputation, and systems improve, you should rely less on discounts and more on perceived value.

Apr 1, 202657 min

Ep 147147: 2026 Q1 Financial Market Update: Iran and Your Investment Portfolio

In this Episode of Dental Board Room Podcast, host Wes Read sits down with Brandon and Paul to break down the biggest forces currently shaping the market, from geopolitical tensions with Iran to Federal Reserve policy and overall stock market resilience.The discussion explores how global conflict, particularly disruptions in energy supply, can ripple through inflation, interest rates, and portfolio performance. The team shares their base-case expectations, potential risks, and how they are actively positioning client portfolios to navigate uncertainty.Despite short-term volatility, the conversation reinforces a long-term, disciplined investment philosophy focusing on diversification, strategic rebalancing, and avoiding emotional decision-making. The episode closes with practical, “set-it-and-forget-it” strategies investors can apply right now.What You’ll LearnHow the Iran conflict and energy disruptions impact global marketsWhy oil prices are a key indicator for economic and market directionThe role of the Federal Reserve and how interest rate decisions affect investmentsWhat the “Great Rotation” means and why value stocks are outperformingHow rising bond yields influence tech stocks and overall valuationsWhy diversification beyond the “Magnificent Seven” is criticalHow disciplined rebalancing helps investors take advantage of volatilitySimple, practical strategies to strengthen your portfolio in uncertain marketsKey TakeawaysGeopolitical events drive markets through energy: Oil supply disruptions can increase inflation and recession risk if prolonged.Short-term volatility is expected but often temporary: Markets have historically rebounded after geopolitical shocks.Interest rates may stay higher for longer: Inflation risks from energy prices are delaying expected rate cuts.Value stocks are gaining momentum: Sectors like energy, financials, and utilities are outperforming high-growth tech.Diversification matters more than ever: Overexposure to a few large tech stocks increases portfolio risk.Rebalancing creates opportunity: Selling stable assets (like bonds) to buy discounted equities during downturns can enhance long-term returns.Markets reward discipline, not timing: Consistent investing and dollar-cost averaging outperform emotional decisions.Focus on what you can control: Income growth, spending discipline, and steady investing are the true drivers of long-term wealth.

Mar 27, 202654 min

Ep 146146: Who Owns Dentistry

In this episode of the Dental Boardroom Podcast, Wes Read continues his analysis of the ADA Health Policy Institute 2024 study, focusing on one of the biggest shifts in modern dentistry who actually owns the industry today.This episode dives deep into the rise of Dental Service Organizations (DSOs) and compares them with traditional private practice models. Wes breaks down real data on ownership trends, career stages, and practice sizes, and shares practical insights from years of advising dentists.Beyond the numbers, he explores the hidden challenges of scaling multi-location practices, the financial trade-offs of choosing employment over ownership, and the reality behind DSO deal structures.The episode closes with a strong perspective on the future of DSOs, why many may struggle in the long term, and why private practice ownership remains the most powerful path to autonomy, control, and wealth in dentistry.Key Takeaways1) Ownership Trends Are Shifting Younger dentists are moving away from solo ownership. The majority of older dentists still prefer private practice.2) DSOs Are Growing, but Not Dominating Only a small percentage of dentists are DSO-affiliated. Most practices are still single-location setups.3) Scaling Is Harder Than It Looks Expanding beyond one location adds significant complexity. Many dentists struggle in the “in-between” growth phase.4) Stability vs. Wealth Trade-Off DSOs offer more predictable income. Private ownership offers significantly higher long-term earnings.5) Small Income Gap = Massive Lifetime Impact Even a $50K annual difference can lead to millions lost over time.6) DSO Deals Can Be Misleading Higher valuations often come with strings attached. Earn-outs and equity rollovers carry uncertainty.7) Early Players Win in DSOs The biggest gains go to early adopters. Late entrants typically see limited upside.8) Private Equity Plays a Short-Term Game The focus is often on scaling and reselling, not long-term operations.9) Future Risk for DSOs Talent retention and performance consistency are major challenges. Many DSOs may struggle as original owners exit.10) Private Practice Still Wins (for Most) Greater control, autonomy, and wealth-building potential. The best path for long-term financial success in dentistry.What You’ll LearnThe current breakdown of DSOs vs. private practice ownership in dentistryWhy solo practice is declining among early-career dentistsHow student debt is influencing career decisions and risk toleranceThe real challenges of scaling from one to multiple locationsHow DSOs are structured and how their deals actually workThe difference in income and long-term wealth between owners and employeesWhy many dentists may be leaving money on the table by choosing DSOsThe role of private equity in shaping the dental industryPredictions on the future of DSOs and potential market shifts

Mar 24, 20261h 1m

Ep 145145: Is Dentistry Struggling?

In this episode of The Dental Boardroom Podcast, host Wes Read, CPA and financial advisor at Practice CFO, breaks down fresh data from the ADA Health Policy Institute (2024–2025) to uncover what’s really happening inside the dental industry. While many dentists are earning less despite working more, rising overhead, stagnant PPO reimbursements, and economic pressure are creating real challenges.But here’s the truth: not every practice is struggling.Some dentists are not only surviving but thriving. They’re building highly profitable practices, growing wealth faster than their peers, and creating systems that allow them to win despite industry headwinds.This episode dives into both sides of the story and, more importantly, what separates those who struggle from those who succeed.Key Takeaways1. Dentistry is facing real financial pressure: Dentists are working more hours while earning less due to rising expenses and flat reimbursements.2. Overhead is the silent profit killer: Staff wages, supplies, and operational costs are increasing year over year, shrinking take-home income.3. Flat revenue = declining wealth: If your collections aren’t growing with inflation, you’re effectively losing purchasing power every year.4. Growth creates leverage: Because most dental costs are fixed, increasing revenue significantly boosts profit margins.5. PPO dependence is expensive: Insurance-based dentistry often sacrifices profitability for patient volume.6. Business skills are no longer optional: Top-performing dentists aren’t just clinicians—they’re strong business operators.7. “Platforming” your practice is the key to scaling: Building systems, processes, and teams allows growth beyond your personal clinical hours.8. Three core systems drive success:Marketing → drives patient flowPractice Management → improves efficiency & experienceFinancial Systems → maximize profit and control cash flow9. What gets measured gets improved: Regularly tracking performance metrics and reviewing financials is essential for growth.10. Less personal spending = more business growth: Reinvesting in your practice (rather than lifestyle inflation) accelerates long-term success.

Mar 19, 202653 min

Ep 144144: Inside Spear: Strategy, AI, and the Future of Dental Education

In this episode of The Dental Boardroom Podcast, host Wes Read talks with Matt Coggin about how dental education is evolving in today’s fast-changing healthcare landscape. They explore how dentists can stay competitive through continuous learning, team training, and effective communication, while navigating challenges like staff turnover, AI integration, and the rise of DSOs. The episode highlights practical strategies for improving clinical skills, patient care, and overall practice performance.Key Topics CoveredEvolution of dental education and continuous learningTraining pathways for early-career dentistsBlended learning: online modules + hands-on workshopsImportance of training the full dental teamEnhancing patient communication for higher case acceptanceIntegrating AI into dental practiceAddressing staff turnover and operational consistencyImpact of DSOs and private equity on dentistryKey TakeawaysContinuous Learning Is Essential: Ongoing education improves both clinical skills and patient outcomes.Support for Early-Career Dentists: Structured training helps new dentists gain confidence in procedures and decision-making.Blended Learning Works Best: Combining online modules, workshops, and coaching reinforces knowledge and practical application.Team Alignment Matters: Training the entire dental team ensures consistent patient experiences and smoother operations.Communication Drives Growth: Clear patient communication increases trust, case acceptance, and overall practice success.AI Is Emerging in Dentistry: Tools can assist diagnostics and treatment planning, but must be integrated thoughtfully.Staff Turnover Requires Planning: Structured onboarding and ongoing training help maintain efficiency despite staffing changes.DSOs and Private Equity Influence Practices: Scalable education systems are key for multi-location or corporate-backed practices.

Mar 16, 202652 min

Ep 143143: Six Mistakes that Can Lead to Operational Misery

In this episode of the Dental Boardroom Podcast, Wes Reed dives into some of the most common and costly business and practice management mistakes dentists make. Drawing from years of experience working with hundreds of dental practices, Wes explains how strong clinical skills alone aren’t enough to build a sustainable, profitable, and stress-free practice.He breaks these mistakes into six core areas, covering everything from management systems and PPO economics to lease agreements, partnerships, financial planning, and KPIs. Throughout the episode, Wes uses practical examples and real-world analogies (including agile software development) to show how intentional systems and financial clarity can free owners from burnout and help practices scale intelligently.This episode is a must-listen for practice owners who want to stop managing reactively and start operating with structure, clarity, and long-term strategy.Key Topics Covered1. Not Adopting a Management ProcessMany dentists manage by instinct instead of by process. Without a clear management operating system including defined roles, meeting cadence, accountability, and decision-making frameworks, practices become reactive, inconsistent, and owner-dependent. Wes explains how adopting even a simple system and iterating over time can dramatically improve operations and reduce burnout.2. Not Understanding the True Cost of PPOsPPOs often increase top-line revenue but quietly erode profitability. Wes breaks down how fee schedules, write-offs, chair utilization, and hygiene profitability impact the bottom line. He emphasizes that PPOs are essentially an expensive marketing channel and that growth without profitability can lead to exhaustion, not success.3. Not Understanding Lease TermsA lease is often the largest non-clinical financial commitment a dentist makes, yet many sign without fully understanding the implications. Wes discusses escalation clauses, renewal options, relocation clauses, and why poor lease terms can hurt practice value or even prevent a successful exit.4. Partnering Without Profit-Split ModelingPartnerships often fail not because of personality conflicts, but because of unclear financial structures. Wes explains why production, ownership, expenses, and profit splits must be modeled and stress-tested before forming a partnership and why aligning accounting execution with the partnership agreement is critical.5. Lacking Financial Planning & Analysis (FP&A)Most practices rely only on historical financial reports, such as P&Ls, which show where the practice has been, not where it’s going. Wes explains how FP&A (or a CFO model) helps dentists forecast cash flow, plan strategically, and turn financial anxiety into financial control.6. Not Using KPIs or KPI SoftwareWithout key performance indicators, practices lack visibility and accountability. Wes highlights the importance of both leading and trailing KPIs, the value of KPI software, and how daily or weekly team huddles around metrics create a culture of ownership and consistency.Key TakeawaysClinical excellence alone doesn’t guarantee a successful practice; systems and strategy matter.A management operating system frees the owner from being the bottleneck.PPO participation must be understood at the procedure- and profitability-levels, not just collections.Lease terms can significantly impact long-term practice value and exit options.Partnerships should be treated like financial marriages, with detailed modeling upfront.FP&A helps dentists make forward-looking decisions instead of relying on gut instinct.KPI create clarity, accountability, and better team alignment.AI should enhance well-designed systems, not replace leadership, processes, or strategy.

Feb 10, 202648 min

Ep 142142: The Executive Session - Scaling Without Utter Chaos

In this episode of The Dental Boardroom Podcast, host Wes Read is joined by Megan Shelton (Shelton Solutions) and Michael Anderson (co-founder of Wondrous) for an in-depth executive session focused on one of the most challenging stages of practice ownership: scaling without creating chaos.The conversation explores the concept of “No Man’s Land” the phase where a dental practice is too big to operate informally, yet not structured enough to run like a true organization. The panel breaks down what typically breaks first as practices grow, why culture and clarity often erode before financial performance does, and how intentional systems, leadership layers, and data-driven decision-making can help owners scale sustainably.This episode is especially relevant for dentists approaching $1.5–$2.5M in revenue, adding providers, or feeling increasingly busy, stressed, and constrained despite apparent growth.Key Topics CoveredThe “No Man’s Land” phase of practice growthFounder vs. CEO identity shiftsCulture, values, and psychological safety as scaling foundationsMeasuring quality beyond production and revenueMarketing ROI, lead quality, and tracking systemsOperational dashboards, KPIs, and accountabilityDelegation, leadership development, and team structureCommon myths and misconceptions about growthKey Takeaways1. Growth Without Systems Leads to ChaosWhen revenue outpaces infrastructure, practices experience rising stress, declining consistency, and fractured operations even if production looks strong on paper.2. Culture Breaks Before the Numbers DoTeams feel instability before leaders can name it. Communication breakdowns, confusion, and burnout are often the earliest warning signs of unhealthy growth.3. Identity Must Be Defined Before ScaleClear mission, values, and standards create alignment and serve as a filter for decisions around hiring, marketing, scheduling, and patient care.4. Quality Requires Measurement, Not AssumptionsTrue quality indicators include:Case acceptance consistencyPatient retention and re-treatment ratesTeam turnover and engagementDiagnostic alignment across providersCash flow clarity5. Marketing Success Depends on End-to-End VisibilityMore leads don’t equal better outcomes. Practices must track where patients come from, how they convert, and which channels actually drive ROI.6. Delegation Is Essential for Sustainable GrowthScaling requires owners to let go of certain roles and build leadership layers while maintaining accountability through systems and metrics.7. Many Owners Want Relief, Not More VolumeWithout structure, adding providers, patients, or locations often increases stress instead of freedom.8. A Scalable Practice Can Operate Without the OwnerA key test of operational maturity: if another doctor stepped in tomorrow, what would continue to function and what would immediately break?

Feb 6, 20261h 8m
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