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The Debrief

The Debrief

The Business of Fashion

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Show overview

The Debrief has been publishing since 2022, and across the 4 years since has built a catalogue of 139 episodes. That works out to roughly 55 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.

Episodes typically run twenty to thirty-five minutes — most land between 22 min and 28 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Arts show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 4 days ago, with 33 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2025, with 46 episodes published. Published by The Business of Fashion.

Episodes
139
Running
2022–2026 · 4y
Median length
25 min
Cadence
Fortnightly

From the publisher

Welcome to The Debrief, a new weekly podcast from The Business of Fashion, where we go beyond the glossy veneer and unpack our most popular BoF Professional stories. Hosted by BoF correspondents Sheena Butler-Young and Brian Baskin, The Debrief will be your guide into the mega labels, indie upstarts and unforgettable personalities shaping the $2.5 trillion global fashion industry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Influencer Follower-Count Era Is Ending

Aug 19, 202623 min

What the Best Fashion Stores Get Right

Aug 12, 202631 min

The Fashion and Beauty Companies Everyone Wants to Work For

Aug 5, 202634 min

Why Everyone's Reading Clothing Labels Again

Jul 29, 202630 min

Is Fashion School Still Worth It?

Jul 22, 202632 min

The Anti-Unicorn Playbook That Beat Fashion's DTC Boom

Jul 15, 202626 min

Luxury’s New Reality

Jul 9, 202631 min

How Nike Built the Biggest World Cup Campaign Ever

Jul 1, 202648 min

Why Activewear Consumers Are Looking Beyond Lululemon

Jun 24, 202624 min

The Debrief | How Books Became Fashion’s Latest Status Symbol

Jun 17, 202625 min

Fashion's Ozempic Reckoning

Jun 10, 202631 min

A Message to Listeners

May 27, 20260 min

Inside The Swatch X Audemars Piguet Global Frenzy

May 20, 202621 min

Why Are So Many Brands Faking Scandals?

May 13, 202620 min

Why People Hate AI

May 6, 202630 min

Why Some Retailers are Ignoring the Internet

Apr 29, 202625 min

Why Luxury Still Can’t Find Its Way Out of the Slump

Apr 22, 202636 min

Nike’s Reality Check

Apr 15, 202626 min

Can H&M Prove Sustainability is a Growth Engine?

In March, H&M released financial results alongside its annual sustainability report, presenting two seemingly contrasting narratives. The company reported a 34.6 percent reduction in emissions from 2019 levels and also noted that 91 percent of its materials are now sustainably sourced. However, this environmental progress occurred alongside a 1 percent dip in sales, raising questions about the commercial viability of its green strategy.While many industry peers are backing away from environmental messaging to focus on the bottom line, H&M is arguing that sustainability is not in tension with profit, but is rather a "core driver of future growth". On The Debrief, we examine whether this decoupling of growth from environmental impact can truly resonate with consumers, or if it remains a purely internal metric.Key Insights: As a fast fashion brand, H&M understands that sustainability alone is not going to win back shoppers. Instead, Walid says the company is trying to translate its recent efforts into something more tangible at the point of purchase. The pitch is not that consumers care about emissions reporting in itself, but that sustainability can function as a marker of quality. As Leyla Ertur, H&M’s Head of Sustainability, told Walid during their conversation, “Our customers don’t care about our Scope 3 emissions going down. What they care about is what they’re buying.”Walid suggests that one of H&M’s biggest challenges is the disconnect between how the company sees itself and how customers perceive it. “When we say H&M, I think people are thinking of H&M, the brand … But when H&M talks about itself, they’re talking [about] the whole conglomerate,” she says, pointing to brands like COS and Weekday, which occupy a more elevated position. While those labels may successfully compete with higher-end high street players, that distinction is largely invisible to consumers, who still associate H&M with “fast fashion … something cheap for an occasion.” As a result, while the group may understand how to build more premium propositions across its portfolio, Walid argues that the core H&M brand itself has not yet meaningfully shifted perception.  For all the company’s investments and emissions reductions, the core contradiction remains that H&M is still producing and selling huge volumes of clothing. Waleed is explicit about that limitation: “They’re not addressing the overconsumption and overproduction problem in fashion.” At the same time, she notes that H&M is one of the few large players still investing at scale in decarbonisation, water reduction and supply chain upgrades.H&M is investing across sustainability, brand elevation and new channels like resale, but Waleed cautions that it is still too early to judge whether these efforts are working. “They use all these different levers that don’t come into one … There needs to be a way to bring that together,” she says. Initiatives like fashion week shows, collaborations and younger-facing campaigns are designed to re-engage consumers, but “I don’t think people have caught traction … just yet.” For now, the strategy remains a long-term bet rather than a proven turnaround.Additional Resources:Exclusive: H&M Says Sustainability Is Good for Business. Can It Get Shoppers to Care?BoF Analysis: The Rise of Ultra-Fast Fashion PlayersThe Game of ‘Selling’ Sustainability Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 8, 202627 min

The Retailer That’s Obsessed With AI

For years, Revolve was fashion retail’s byword for influencer marketing, particularly around its over-the-top Coachella event. But as the Instagram aesthetic matures and the cost of human-led marketing rises, the company is pivoting. The new mandate? To become as much an AI powerhouse as it is a party-hosting fashion giant. In a recent conversation with Retail Editor Cathaleen Chen, Revolve founders Michael Mente and Mike Karanikolas argued that AI isn't just a buzzword for the board; it’s the engine that will sustain their multi-billion dollar dominance.Chen joined The Debrief to talk about how Revolve is pushing the limits of how AI can be used in retail, and whether its strategy is working. Key Insights: Revolve was founded by software engineers who viewed fashion as an e-commerce "white space,” setting it apart from rivals that invested in new technologies only after establishing themselves in the marketplace. "While Revolve looks like a Shopbop or a Net-a-Porter... Revolve is actually built like a data science company." said retail editor Cathaleen Chen.Revolve differentiates itself by building its own tools where possible, rather than buying off-the-shelf software, including the product search on its website. Using AI, Revolve has moved beyond literal keyword matching to a system that understands the vibe or occasion a customer is shopping for. By analyzing image attributes, the site can surface the perfect "party dress" even if that specific tag doesn't exist, explains Chen. "What their AI tool is able to do is pull up anything that is sequined... or textured... it is anticipating the desire."Revolve fosters a "bottom-up" environment where every employee is encouraged to experiment with AI. They aren't just looking for "moonshots"; they value any application that moves the needle even slightly. "Eeven if something improves efficiency or output by just 1%, that's considered a success,” said Chen.Additional Resources:Why Revolve Can’t Stop Talking About AI | BoFWhy Fashion Doesn’t Talk About How It Uses AI | BoFWhy Revolve Is Embracing Brick-and-Mortar | BoF Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 1, 202622 min